Manishh wrote:

-Remi wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

-Remi wrote:

I think Poly is definitely next in line for Denizenship.

the padoru thing was made with abraker (a decent amount of thought went on it tbh) so I think I fail the "without me directing someone to make", but you definitely will join the 9th soon, your padoru posts were actually fire

We will join Gen 9 together my brother

No,

Stomiks wrote:

Speaking of all this 9th gen talk, I wonder who'll be the next denizen? Or what theme 9th gen will be at least.

Stomiks wrote:

Speaking of all this 9th gen talk, I wonder who'll be the next denizen? Or what theme 9th gen will be at least.

Felixland wrote:

I've still got six more months to wait, and it'll probably be on gen 10 by then. Besides, I haven't made any cool threads or whatever.

Felixland wrote:

Felixland wrote:

I've still got six more months to wait, and it'll probably be on gen 10 by then. Besides, I haven't made any cool threads or whatever.

I'll just wait later to make my *important* thread. I still have a lot of time left.

Patatitta wrote:

it's less about actually making a super good thread and more about your reputation

MFGSTC wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Speaking of all this 9th gen talk, I wonder who'll be the next denizen? Or what theme 9th gen will be at least.

9th gen gonna be full of mischievous and annoying goofballs like me, scyla, and remi
: )

Felixland wrote:

I might be apart of the "Gay Goofball Generation" despite being straight. Funny how it works.

Polyspora wrote:

Felixland wrote:

I might be apart of the "Gay Goofball Generation" despite being straight. Funny how it works.

but... that was the last generation

Felixland wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

Felixland wrote:

I might be apart of the "Gay Goofball Generation" despite being straight. Funny how it works.

but... that was the last generation

No, they're talking about the current generation.

Felixland wrote:

I might be apart of the "Gay Goofball Generation" despite being straight. Funny how it works.

Stomiks wrote:

Felixland wrote:

I might be apart of the "Gay Goofball Generation" despite being straight. Funny how it works.

I'm getting some Rhthym32 vibes from you now

Stomiks wrote:

Felixland wrote:

I might be apart of the "Gay Goofball Generation" despite being straight. Funny how it works.

I'm getting some Rhthym32 vibes from you now

Karmine wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Felixland wrote:

I might be apart of the "Gay Goofball Generation" despite being straight. Funny how it works.

I'm getting some Rhthym32 vibes from you now

Oh no

Polyspora wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Felixland wrote:

I might be apart of the "Gay Goofball Generation" despite being straight. Funny how it works.

I'm getting some Rhthym32 vibes from you now

what this guy did, I remember him just being a random

ghoulybits wrote:

Pro tip to newfags: Feel the urge to comment about "oh boy I can't wait to be a denizen hahaha can't wait to see what gen I'm in hahaha man when am I going to be denizen hahaha"? Don't. Just resist it.

Stomiks wrote:

Felixland wrote:

I might be apart of the "Gay Goofball Generation" despite being straight. Funny how it works.

I'm getting some Rhthym32 vibes from you now

Polyspora wrote:

what this guy did, I remember him just being a random

Kaaruumii wrote:

whos that im curious

Stomiks wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

what this guy did, I remember him just being a random

Kaaruumii wrote:

whos that im curious

This is what happens when you over-obsess over something that is so insignificant.

community/forums/topics/1534335?n=1
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1538016?n=1
community/forums/topics/1548871?n=1
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1548163?n=1
community/forums/topics/1551740?n=1

Kaaruumii wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

what this guy did, I remember him just being a random

Kaaruumii wrote:

whos that im curious

This is what happens when you over-obsess over something that is so insignificant.

community/forums/topics/1534335?n=1
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1538016?n=1
community/forums/topics/1548871?n=1
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1548163?n=1
community/forums/topics/1551740?n=1

jesus fucking christ that kid needs therapy its just a forum title and he treats it as if he doesnt get denizen he will die

Stomiks wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

what this guy did, I remember him just being a random

Kaaruumii wrote:

whos that im curious

This is what happens when you over-obsess over something that is so insignificant.

community/forums/topics/1534335?n=1
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1538016?n=1
community/forums/topics/1548871?n=1
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1548163?n=1
community/forums/topics/1551740?n=1

Kaaruumii wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

what this guy did, I remember him just being a random

Kaaruumii wrote:

whos that im curious

This is what happens when you over-obsess over something that is so insignificant.

community/forums/topics/1534335?n=1
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1538016?n=1
community/forums/topics/1548871?n=1
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1548163?n=1
community/forums/topics/1551740?n=1

jesus fucking christ that kid needs therapy its just a forum title and he treats it as if he doesnt get denizen he will die

Stomiks wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

what this guy did, I remember him just being a random

Kaaruumii wrote:

whos that im curious

This is what happens when you over-obsess over something that is so insignificant.

community/forums/topics/1534335?n=1
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1538016?n=1
community/forums/topics/1548871?n=1
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1548163?n=1
community/forums/topics/1551740?n=1

Stomiks wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

what this guy did, I remember him just being a random

Kaaruumii wrote:

whos that im curious

This is what happens when you over-obsess over something that is so insignificant.

community/forums/topics/1534335?n=1
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1538016?n=1
community/forums/topics/1548871?n=1
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1548163?n=1
community/forums/topics/1551740?n=1

B0ii wrote:

Kaaruumii wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

what this guy did, I remember him just being a random

Kaaruumii wrote:

whos that im curious

This is what happens when you over-obsess over something that is so insignificant.

community/forums/topics/1534335?n=1
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1538016?n=1
community/forums/topics/1548871?n=1
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1548163?n=1
community/forums/topics/1551740?n=1

jesus fucking christ that kid needs therapy its just a forum title and he treats it as if he doesnt get denizen he will die

I never realized that some people can devote their entire soul to a single forum
But this is OT after all...

Karmine wrote:

B0ii wrote:

Kaaruumii wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

what this guy did, I remember him just being a random

Kaaruumii wrote:

whos that im curious

This is what happens when you over-obsess over something that is so insignificant.

community/forums/topics/1534335?n=1
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1538016?n=1
community/forums/topics/1548871?n=1
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1548163?n=1
community/forums/topics/1551740?n=1

jesus fucking christ that kid needs therapy its just a forum title and he treats it as if he doesnt get denizen he will die

I never realized that some people can devote their entire soul to a single forum
But this is OT after all...

People do that on every social media tbh, it's sad af

Felixland wrote:

Karmine wrote:

B0ii wrote:

Kaaruumii wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

what this guy did, I remember him just being a random

Kaaruumii wrote:

whos that im curious

This is what happens when you over-obsess over something that is so insignificant.

community/forums/topics/1534335?n=1
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1538016?n=1
community/forums/topics/1548871?n=1
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1548163?n=1
community/forums/topics/1551740?n=1

jesus fucking christ that kid needs therapy its just a forum title and he treats it as if he doesnt get denizen he will die

I never realized that some people can devote their entire soul to a single forum
But this is OT after all...

People do that on every social media tbh, it's sad af

People are willing to do life threatening stuff fir followers/subscribers.

Stomiks wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

what this guy did, I remember him just being a random

Kaaruumii wrote:

whos that im curious

This is what happens when you over-obsess over something that is so insignificant.

community/forums/topics/1534335?n=1
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1538016?n=1
community/forums/topics/1548871?n=1
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1548163?n=1
community/forums/topics/1551740?n=1

abraker wrote:

NOTICE

As time marches on we find ourselves questioning what it means to become denizen. The OT Royal Society has first defined it in terms of activity. When that was then found insufficient by the OT!Government it was changed to time spent in this place. While this has worked for the previous generation, it has become increasingly apparent as of late the problems of justifying someone as denizen despite time spent here. This is why the OT!Governement has passed a vote: Denizen candidates chosen by the OT!Government shall now submit their own reasoning for why they should be considered for denizenship. Candidates shall be DM'd when they qualify, and only if approved, shall their denizenship be announced.

Patatitta wrote:

what are you seeking in the answers tho?

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

what are you seeking in the answers tho?

a list of contributions to OT will suffice

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

what are you seeking in the answers tho?

a list of contributions to OT will suffice

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

what are you seeking in the answers tho?

a list of contributions to OT will suffice

what would you define as a contributiont ho?, if you're going to just ask for that and anything suffices, then this is exactly like the old system

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

what are you seeking in the answers tho?

a list of contributions to OT will suffice

what would you define as a contributiont ho?, if you're going to just ask for that and anything suffices, then this is exactly like the old system

if that "anything" you list is insufficient, then denizenship would be denied. So list your best contributions

Kaaruumii wrote:

gen 9 gonna only have like 3 or 4 people lol

octowave wrote:

am i allowed to be excluded from denizenship as a whole? if it's going to be like this? it does nothing but make me want to post in ot less. knowing nothing i do would contribute to it would be a fucking relief. i just want to post things, not stress over whether or not i'm "good enough" by some arbitrary standards

octowave wrote:

am i allowed to be excluded from denizenship as a whole? if it's going to be like this? it does nothing but make me want to post in ot less. knowing nothing i do would contribute to it would be a fucking relief. i just want to post things, not stress over whether or not i'm "good enough" by some arbitrary standards

ShinRun wrote:

Seems like the new amendment is receiving massive backlash so I have a different proposal.

Instead of making denizenship harder to require, parliament change the only requirement needed to obtain denizenship to be active for 8 months. This might seem similar to the old one we had but the difference is you literally need to make 0 contribution to be included. Denizen becomes a symbol of "hey I was here for 8+ months" and this would also increase the amount of people in a generation.

On the other hand, I can create a different entity similar to the hall of fame which is only dedicated to denizen who actually contributed massive deeds to OT. If someone wish to be inducted into the hall of fame, they must submit a list of achievement they contributed to the community. The requirement will naturally be much harsher, and instead of having only parliament decide, it will be left to a poll where any denizen can vote. Also, unlike most hall of fame, you don't need to be inactive to get inducted into it but you must be active for a much longer period of time compared to denizenship.

Changes will still be made to this but if this is much more preferred, I'll talk to parliament and the president about it.

ShinRun wrote:

Seems like the new amendment is receiving massive backlash so I have a different proposal.

Instead of making denizenship harder to require, parliament change the only requirement needed to obtain denizenship to be active for 8 months. This might seem similar to the old one we had but the difference is you literally need to make 0 contribution to be included. Denizen becomes a symbol of "hey I was here for 8+ months" and this would also increase the amount of people in a generation.

On the other hand, I can create a different entity similar to the hall of fame which is only dedicated to denizen who actually contributed massive deeds to OT. If someone wish to be inducted into the hall of fame, they must submit a list of achievement they contributed to the community. The requirement will naturally be much harsher, and instead of having only parliament decide, it will be left to a poll where any denizen can vote. Also, unlike most hall of fame, you don't need to be inactive to get inducted into it but you must be active for a much longer period of time compared to denizenship.

Changes will still be made to this but if this is much more preferred, I'll talk to parliament and the president about it.

[ Sebastian ] wrote:

I don't know if denizenship is either for big contributors to OT, or just a marker to show that you've been in OT for a while.

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

[ Sebastian ] wrote:

I don't know if denizenship is either for big contributors to OT, or just a marker to show that you've been in OT for a while.

the latter

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

[ Sebastian ] wrote:

I don't know if denizenship is either for big contributors to OT, or just a marker to show that you've been in OT for a while.

the latter

Kaaruumii wrote:

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

[ Sebastian ] wrote:

I don't know if denizenship is either for big contributors to OT, or just a marker to show that you've been in OT for a while.

the latter

starting to feel like the first one now

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

Kaaruumii wrote:

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

[ Sebastian ] wrote:

I don't know if denizenship is either for big contributors to OT, or just a marker to show that you've been in OT for a while.

the latter

starting to feel like the first one now

the current rules says otherwise

Patatitta wrote:

IMO the problem is that this new change fixes literally nothing, it's just obscuring the process that goes into becoming denizen instead of actually taking and solving the problem from the root of it, meaning, actually give a proper definition to what denizen really means, currently contribution is just a buzz word, since no one really knows what classifies as one,

is making a low effort post enough? no?, is high effort enough? what is even high effort? does it need to contribute to the lore? the thread must be active?, is time still a factor? none of this questions have really been answered

igorsprite wrote:

you guys should reduce the requirement to 2 months again

ShinRun wrote:

Seems like the new amendment is receiving massive backlash so I have a different proposal.

Instead of making denizenship harder to require, parliament change the only requirement needed to obtain denizenship to be active for 8 months. This might seem similar to the old one we had but the difference is you literally need to make 0 contribution to be included. Denizen becomes a symbol of "hey I was here for 8+ months" and this would also increase the amount of people in a generation.

On the other hand, I can create a different entity similar to the hall of fame which is only dedicated to denizen who actually contributed massive deeds to OT. If someone wish to be inducted into the hall of fame, they must submit a list of achievement they contributed to the community. The requirement will naturally be much harsher, and instead of having only parliament decide, it will be left to a poll where any denizen can vote. Also, unlike most hall of fame, you don't need to be inactive to get inducted into it but you must be active for a much longer period of time compared to denizenship.

Changes will still be made to this but if this is much more preferred, I'll talk to parliament and the president about it.

Karmine wrote:

ShinRun wrote:

Seems like the new amendment is receiving massive backlash so I have a different proposal.

Instead of making denizenship harder to require, parliament change the only requirement needed to obtain denizenship to be active for 8 months. This might seem similar to the old one we had but the difference is you literally need to make 0 contribution to be included. Denizen becomes a symbol of "hey I was here for 8+ months" and this would also increase the amount of people in a generation.

On the other hand, I can create a different entity similar to the hall of fame which is only dedicated to denizen who actually contributed massive deeds to OT. If someone wish to be inducted into the hall of fame, they must submit a list of achievement they contributed to the community. The requirement will naturally be much harsher, and instead of having only parliament decide, it will be left to a poll where any denizen can vote. Also, unlike most hall of fame, you don't need to be inactive to get inducted into it but you must be active for a much longer period of time compared to denizenship.

Changes will still be made to this but if this is much more preferred, I'll talk to parliament and the president about it.

Why not make the second part what's required for denizenship (without making it too hard) instead of just giving denizenship to basically everyone?

Say denizenship requires actually doing something that will get you recognized and appreciated by denizens, and let people apply with a list of what they consider good contributions they made. Denizens would then vote whether they think these contributions are actually good or not.
That would let us see what everyone considers a good contribution and weed out those who apply without doing anything. People who don't want to be denizen would simply not apply.
It would help keep denizens more or less coherent in what they think OT should be like and avoid big conflicts and disagreements like we have here.
Meta would still shift with time thanks to old denizens leaving and new ones always being at least slightly different from their elders.

[ Sebastian ] wrote:

Karmine wrote:

ShinRun wrote:

Seems like the new amendment is receiving massive backlash so I have a different proposal.

Instead of making denizenship harder to require, parliament change the only requirement needed to obtain denizenship to be active for 8 months. This might seem similar to the old one we had but the difference is you literally need to make 0 contribution to be included. Denizen becomes a symbol of "hey I was here for 8+ months" and this would also increase the amount of people in a generation.

On the other hand, I can create a different entity similar to the hall of fame which is only dedicated to denizen who actually contributed massive deeds to OT. If someone wish to be inducted into the hall of fame, they must submit a list of achievement they contributed to the community. The requirement will naturally be much harsher, and instead of having only parliament decide, it will be left to a poll where any denizen can vote. Also, unlike most hall of fame, you don't need to be inactive to get inducted into it but you must be active for a much longer period of time compared to denizenship.

Changes will still be made to this but if this is much more preferred, I'll talk to parliament and the president about it.

Why not make the second part what's required for denizenship (without making it too hard) instead of just giving denizenship to basically everyone?

Say denizenship requires actually doing something that will get you recognized and appreciated by denizens, and let people apply with a list of what they consider good contributions they made. Denizens would then vote whether they think these contributions are actually good or not.
That would let us see what everyone considers a good contribution and weed out those who apply without doing anything. People who don't want to be denizen would simply not apply.
It would help keep denizens more or less coherent in what they think OT should be like and avoid big conflicts and disagreements like we have here.
Meta would still shift with time thanks to old denizens leaving and new ones always being at least slightly different from their elders.

This is by far the best solution I heard. I know that you plan on not having people wait 8 months to apply, but will there be a shorter wait time like 2 months?

eblf2013 wrote:

ShinRun wrote:

Seems like the new amendment is receiving massive backlash so I have a different proposal.

Instead of making denizenship harder to require, parliament change the only requirement needed to obtain denizenship to be active for 8 months. This might seem similar to the old one we had but the difference is you literally need to make 0 contribution to be included. Denizen becomes a symbol of "hey I was here for 8+ months" and this would also increase the amount of people in a generation.

On the other hand, I can create a different entity similar to the hall of fame which is only dedicated to denizen who actually contributed massive deeds to OT. If someone wish to be inducted into the hall of fame, they must submit a list of achievement they contributed to the community. The requirement will naturally be much harsher, and instead of having only parliament decide, it will be left to a poll where any denizen can vote. Also, unlike most hall of fame, you don't need to be inactive to get inducted into it but you must be active for a much longer period of time compared to denizenship.

Changes will still be made to this but if this is much more preferred, I'll talk to parliament and the president about it.

I think that going back to the certain number of posts whithin a certain amount of time, but instead to a fixed number, there must be like an average of how much a person has posted in that time and thus has been known by the community. As for the current requirements, I think it's now absurdly difficult and if I entered OT at this time I wouldn't have even been bothered being active.

ShinRun wrote:

Shortening the wait time to become denizen is not a smart idea

ShinRun wrote:

Shortening the wait time to become denizen is not a smart idea

igorsprite wrote:

patatitta will lead the resistance and create a new society called "outsiders" to compete with the denizens, and all this discussion will start the great OT war o:

abraker wrote:

NOTICE

For the first time in OT history the OT! Parliament has passed a vote to revoke denizenship. It is well deserved and serves as a warning against behavior many find inappropriate for this subforum and its health. I am not going to announce who it is since they deserve no spotlight, but I'm sure most of you can figure it out.

abraker wrote:

NOTICE

For the first time in OT history the OT! Parliament has passed a vote to revoke denizenship. It is well deserved and serves as a warning against behavior many find inappropriate for this subforum and its health. I am not going to announce who it is since they deserve no spotlight, but I'm sure most of you can figure it out.

Zelzatter Zero wrote:

to think the only notable active 7th gen denizen is Corne, Cleveland and Wither.

time flies.