i know my dumbass mind will fuck it up and post a meme in response lawl
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Congrats on wasting your life here, we're proud
Say denizenship requires actually doing something that will get you recognized and appreciated by denizens, and let people apply with a list of what they consider good contributions they made. Denizens would then vote whether they think these contributions are actually good or not.
That would let us see what everyone considers a good contribution and weed out those who apply without doing anything. People who don't want to be denizen would simply not apply.
It would help keep denizens more or less coherent in what they think OT should be like and avoid big conflicts and disagreements like we have here.
Meta would still shift with time thanks to old denizens leaving and new ones always being at least slightly different from their elders.
look at the main page, there's always the ot coalition, ot government announcement, random new faction and my statement about x and y on top 10
i know it's rp, but all those threads have non rp parts on them that relate to the denizen problem or new features to OT
im totally agree (in fact, i could realistically say that you readed my mind because i have the exact same thoughts on the problem), the "badge thing" is something i have thought about before but didnt know how to put it in words. hope this criteria and meaning for the denizen concept gets to be final result of these discussions
Quite frankly, igorsprite's contributions to OT are as follows
and if you guys are going to revoke denizens at least say who, why and when. we're not living in the soviet union, people shouldnt dissapear and no one would notice.
I'm printing all generations now fuck it I'm getting paranoid
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cute pfpabraker wrote:
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As time marches on we find ourselves questioning what it means to become denizen. The OT Royal Society has first defined it in terms of activity. When that was then found insufficient by the OT!Government it was changed to time spent in this place. While this has worked for the previous generation, it has become increasingly apparent as of late the problems of justifying someone as denizen despite time spent here. This is why the OT!Governement has passed a vote: Denizen candidates chosen by the OT!Government shall now submit their own reasoning for why they should be considered for denizenship. Candidates shall be DM'd when they qualify, and only if approved, shall their denizenship be announced.
what are you seeking in the answers tho?
Topic Starter
a list of contributions to OT will sufficePatatitta wrote:
what are you seeking in the answers tho?
what would you define as a contributiont tho?, if you're going to just ask for that and anything suffices, then this is exactly like the old systemabraker wrote:
a list of contributions to OT will sufficePatatitta wrote:
what are you seeking in the answers tho?
hey I'm really cool can I get denizenship please? uwU uwU *hugs you* pleaseeee *take your pants down* <3<3<3abraker wrote:
a list of contributions to OT will sufficePatatitta wrote:
what are you seeking in the answers tho?
Topic Starter
if that "anything" you list is insufficient, then denizenship would be denied. So list your best contributionsPatatitta wrote:
what would you define as a contributiont ho?, if you're going to just ask for that and anything suffices, then this is exactly like the old systemabraker wrote:
a list of contributions to OT will sufficePatatitta wrote:
what are you seeking in the answers tho?
seems very ambiguous and that you guys haven't really fixed the core issue but okabraker wrote:
if that "anything" you list is insufficient, then denizenship would be denied. So list your best contributionsPatatitta wrote:
what would you define as a contributiont ho?, if you're going to just ask for that and anything suffices, then this is exactly like the old systemabraker wrote:
a list of contributions to OT will sufficePatatitta wrote:
what are you seeking in the answers tho?
Generations usually last long enough to get a good amount of members, I think.
As for this new system, why would the OT!Gov even qualify someone without knowing the reasoning themselves.
As for this new system, why would the OT!Gov even qualify someone without knowing the reasoning themselves.
xDKaaruumii wrote:
gen 9 gonna only have like 3 or 4 people lol
You can certainly decide to not become a denizen if you wish sooctowave wrote:
am i allowed to be excluded from denizenship as a whole? if it's going to be like this? it does nothing but make me want to post in ot less. knowing nothing i do would contribute to it would be a fucking relief. i just want to post things, not stress over whether or not i'm "good enough" by some arbitrary standards
octowave wrote:
am i allowed to be excluded from denizenship as a whole? if it's going to be like this? it does nothing but make me want to post in ot less. knowing nothing i do would contribute to it would be a fucking relief. i just want to post things, not stress over whether or not i'm "good enough" by some arbitrary standards
Seems like the new amendment is receiving massive backlash so I have a different proposal.
Instead of making denizenship harder to require, parliament change the only requirement needed to obtain denizenship to be active for 8 months. This might seem similar to the old one we had but the difference is you literally need to make 0 contribution to be included. Denizen becomes a symbol of "hey I was here for 8+ months" and this would also increase the amount of people in a generation.
On the other hand, I can create a different entity similar to the hall of fame which is only dedicated to denizen who actually contributed massive deeds to OT. If someone wish to be inducted into the hall of fame, they must submit a list of achievement they contributed to the community. The requirement will naturally be much harsher, and instead of having only parliament decide, it will be left to a poll where any denizen can vote. Also, unlike most hall of fame, you don't need to be inactive to get inducted into it but you must be active for a much longer period of time compared to denizenship.
Changes will still be made to this but if this is much more preferred, I'll talk to parliament and the president about it.
Instead of making denizenship harder to require, parliament change the only requirement needed to obtain denizenship to be active for 8 months. This might seem similar to the old one we had but the difference is you literally need to make 0 contribution to be included. Denizen becomes a symbol of "hey I was here for 8+ months" and this would also increase the amount of people in a generation.
On the other hand, I can create a different entity similar to the hall of fame which is only dedicated to denizen who actually contributed massive deeds to OT. If someone wish to be inducted into the hall of fame, they must submit a list of achievement they contributed to the community. The requirement will naturally be much harsher, and instead of having only parliament decide, it will be left to a poll where any denizen can vote. Also, unlike most hall of fame, you don't need to be inactive to get inducted into it but you must be active for a much longer period of time compared to denizenship.
Changes will still be made to this but if this is much more preferred, I'll talk to parliament and the president about it.
now that makes a lot of senseShinRun wrote:
Seems like the new amendment is receiving massive backlash so I have a different proposal.
Instead of making denizenship harder to require, parliament change the only requirement needed to obtain denizenship to be active for 8 months. This might seem similar to the old one we had but the difference is you literally need to make 0 contribution to be included. Denizen becomes a symbol of "hey I was here for 8+ months" and this would also increase the amount of people in a generation.
On the other hand, I can create a different entity similar to the hall of fame which is only dedicated to denizen who actually contributed massive deeds to OT. If someone wish to be inducted into the hall of fame, they must submit a list of achievement they contributed to the community. The requirement will naturally be much harsher, and instead of having only parliament decide, it will be left to a poll where any denizen can vote. Also, unlike most hall of fame, you don't need to be inactive to get inducted into it but you must be active for a much longer period of time compared to denizenship.
Changes will still be made to this but if this is much more preferred, I'll talk to parliament and the president about it.
I think that going back to the certain number of posts whithin a certain amount of time, but instead to a fixed number, there must be like an average of how much a person has posted in that time and thus has been known by the community. As for the current requirements, I think it's now absurdly difficult and if I entered OT at this time I wouldn't have even been bothered being active.ShinRun wrote:
Seems like the new amendment is receiving massive backlash so I have a different proposal.
Instead of making denizenship harder to require, parliament change the only requirement needed to obtain denizenship to be active for 8 months. This might seem similar to the old one we had but the difference is you literally need to make 0 contribution to be included. Denizen becomes a symbol of "hey I was here for 8+ months" and this would also increase the amount of people in a generation.
On the other hand, I can create a different entity similar to the hall of fame which is only dedicated to denizen who actually contributed massive deeds to OT. If someone wish to be inducted into the hall of fame, they must submit a list of achievement they contributed to the community. The requirement will naturally be much harsher, and instead of having only parliament decide, it will be left to a poll where any denizen can vote. Also, unlike most hall of fame, you don't need to be inactive to get inducted into it but you must be active for a much longer period of time compared to denizenship.
Changes will still be made to this but if this is much more preferred, I'll talk to parliament and the president about it.
I don't know if denizenship is either for big contributors to OT, or just a marker to show that you've been in OT for a while.
the latter[ Sebastian ] wrote:
I don't know if denizenship is either for big contributors to OT, or just a marker to show that you've been in OT for a while.
starting to feel like the first one nowClevelandsMyBro wrote:
the latter[ Sebastian ] wrote:
I don't know if denizenship is either for big contributors to OT, or just a marker to show that you've been in OT for a while.
*puts badge on your shirt*ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
the latter[ Sebastian ] wrote:
I don't know if denizenship is either for big contributors to OT, or just a marker to show that you've been in OT for a while.
Congrats on wasting your life here, we're proud
The definition of Denizenship shifted naturally
the current rules says otherwiseKaaruumii wrote:
starting to feel like the first one nowClevelandsMyBro wrote:
the latter[ Sebastian ] wrote:
I don't know if denizenship is either for big contributors to OT, or just a marker to show that you've been in OT for a while.
To me it's pretty vague, im guessing a big time requirement and "contributions" which I really don't understand what that exactly means and feeling like I can be rejected because I posted something that was "insufficient" it overall makes me confused and not want to try at all, maybe I'm thinking too deep about it lmaoClevelandsMyBro wrote:
the current rules says otherwiseKaaruumii wrote:
starting to feel like the first one nowClevelandsMyBro wrote:
the latter[ Sebastian ] wrote:
I don't know if denizenship is either for big contributors to OT, or just a marker to show that you've been in OT for a while.
gen 9 is basically padoru war at this point xP
Not really
IMO the problem is that this new change fixes literally nothing, it's just obscuring the process that goes into becoming denizen instead of actually taking and solving the problem from the root of it, meaning, actually give a proper definition to what denizen really means, currently contribution is just a buzz word, since no one really knows what classifies as one,
is making a low effort post enough? no?, is high effort enough? what is even high effort? does it need to contribute to the lore? the thread must be active?, is time still a factor? none of this questions have really been answered
is making a low effort post enough? no?, is high effort enough? what is even high effort? does it need to contribute to the lore? the thread must be active?, is time still a factor? none of this questions have really been answered
Yeah. There needs to be a clear definition of what counts as a contribution.Patatitta wrote:
IMO the problem is that this new change fixes literally nothing, it's just obscuring the process that goes into becoming denizen instead of actually taking and solving the problem from the root of it, meaning, actually give a proper definition to what denizen really means, currently contribution is just a buzz word, since no one really knows what classifies as one,
is making a low effort post enough? no?, is high effort enough? what is even high effort? does it need to contribute to the lore? the thread must be active?, is time still a factor? none of this questions have really been answered
2k post woooooo
you guys should reduce the requirement to 2 months again
I think that's too little, and this is coming from someone who's been active for 2 months.igorsprite wrote:
you guys should reduce the requirement to 2 months again
Why not make the second part what's required for denizenship (without making it too hard) instead of just giving denizenship to basically everyone?ShinRun wrote:
Seems like the new amendment is receiving massive backlash so I have a different proposal.
Instead of making denizenship harder to require, parliament change the only requirement needed to obtain denizenship to be active for 8 months. This might seem similar to the old one we had but the difference is you literally need to make 0 contribution to be included. Denizen becomes a symbol of "hey I was here for 8+ months" and this would also increase the amount of people in a generation.
On the other hand, I can create a different entity similar to the hall of fame which is only dedicated to denizen who actually contributed massive deeds to OT. If someone wish to be inducted into the hall of fame, they must submit a list of achievement they contributed to the community. The requirement will naturally be much harsher, and instead of having only parliament decide, it will be left to a poll where any denizen can vote. Also, unlike most hall of fame, you don't need to be inactive to get inducted into it but you must be active for a much longer period of time compared to denizenship.
Changes will still be made to this but if this is much more preferred, I'll talk to parliament and the president about it.
Say denizenship requires actually doing something that will get you recognized and appreciated by denizens, and let people apply with a list of what they consider good contributions they made. Denizens would then vote whether they think these contributions are actually good or not.
That would let us see what everyone considers a good contribution and weed out those who apply without doing anything. People who don't want to be denizen would simply not apply.
It would help keep denizens more or less coherent in what they think OT should be like and avoid big conflicts and disagreements like we have here.
Meta would still shift with time thanks to old denizens leaving and new ones always being at least slightly different from their elders.
This is by far the best solution I heard. I know that you plan on not having people wait 8 months to apply, but will there be a shorter wait time like 2 months?Karmine wrote:
Why not make the second part what's required for denizenship (without making it too hard) instead of just giving denizenship to basically everyone?ShinRun wrote:
Seems like the new amendment is receiving massive backlash so I have a different proposal.
Instead of making denizenship harder to require, parliament change the only requirement needed to obtain denizenship to be active for 8 months. This might seem similar to the old one we had but the difference is you literally need to make 0 contribution to be included. Denizen becomes a symbol of "hey I was here for 8+ months" and this would also increase the amount of people in a generation.
On the other hand, I can create a different entity similar to the hall of fame which is only dedicated to denizen who actually contributed massive deeds to OT. If someone wish to be inducted into the hall of fame, they must submit a list of achievement they contributed to the community. The requirement will naturally be much harsher, and instead of having only parliament decide, it will be left to a poll where any denizen can vote. Also, unlike most hall of fame, you don't need to be inactive to get inducted into it but you must be active for a much longer period of time compared to denizenship.
Changes will still be made to this but if this is much more preferred, I'll talk to parliament and the president about it.
Say denizenship requires actually doing something that will get you recognized and appreciated by denizens, and let people apply with a list of what they consider good contributions they made. Denizens would then vote whether they think these contributions are actually good or not.
That would let us see what everyone considers a good contribution and weed out those who apply without doing anything. People who don't want to be denizen would simply not apply.
It would help keep denizens more or less coherent in what they think OT should be like and avoid big conflicts and disagreements like we have here.
Meta would still shift with time thanks to old denizens leaving and new ones always being at least slightly different from their elders.
No need for time I guess, since people could apply anyone who hasn't been long will hardly have any meaningful contribution to show.[ Sebastian ] wrote:
This is by far the best solution I heard. I know that you plan on not having people wait 8 months to apply, but will there be a shorter wait time like 2 months?Karmine wrote:
Why not make the second part what's required for denizenship (without making it too hard) instead of just giving denizenship to basically everyone?ShinRun wrote:
Seems like the new amendment is receiving massive backlash so I have a different proposal.
Instead of making denizenship harder to require, parliament change the only requirement needed to obtain denizenship to be active for 8 months. This might seem similar to the old one we had but the difference is you literally need to make 0 contribution to be included. Denizen becomes a symbol of "hey I was here for 8+ months" and this would also increase the amount of people in a generation.
On the other hand, I can create a different entity similar to the hall of fame which is only dedicated to denizen who actually contributed massive deeds to OT. If someone wish to be inducted into the hall of fame, they must submit a list of achievement they contributed to the community. The requirement will naturally be much harsher, and instead of having only parliament decide, it will be left to a poll where any denizen can vote. Also, unlike most hall of fame, you don't need to be inactive to get inducted into it but you must be active for a much longer period of time compared to denizenship.
Changes will still be made to this but if this is much more preferred, I'll talk to parliament and the president about it.
Say denizenship requires actually doing something that will get you recognized and appreciated by denizens, and let people apply with a list of what they consider good contributions they made. Denizens would then vote whether they think these contributions are actually good or not.
That would let us see what everyone considers a good contribution and weed out those who apply without doing anything. People who don't want to be denizen would simply not apply.
It would help keep denizens more or less coherent in what they think OT should be like and avoid big conflicts and disagreements like we have here.
Meta would still shift with time thanks to old denizens leaving and new ones always being at least slightly different from their elders.
Either 8 months or longer is my opinion, gamers.
Anything else is fine as long as that's there.
Anything else is fine as long as that's there.
Shortening the wait time to become denizen is not a smart idea
i think that a denizen should be someone that posts currently and, as the word says, he dwells in the ot circle, so no need of big contribution, only of activity in a period of time, which is why i think that 8 monts of activity is alright without the "contribution" part
Constant activity is very important so maybe like at least 20 post a month or soeblf2013 wrote:
I think that going back to the certain number of posts whithin a certain amount of time, but instead to a fixed number, there must be like an average of how much a person has posted in that time and thus has been known by the community. As for the current requirements, I think it's now absurdly difficult and if I entered OT at this time I wouldn't have even been bothered being active.ShinRun wrote:
Seems like the new amendment is receiving massive backlash so I have a different proposal.
Instead of making denizenship harder to require, parliament change the only requirement needed to obtain denizenship to be active for 8 months. This might seem similar to the old one we had but the difference is you literally need to make 0 contribution to be included. Denizen becomes a symbol of "hey I was here for 8+ months" and this would also increase the amount of people in a generation.
On the other hand, I can create a different entity similar to the hall of fame which is only dedicated to denizen who actually contributed massive deeds to OT. If someone wish to be inducted into the hall of fame, they must submit a list of achievement they contributed to the community. The requirement will naturally be much harsher, and instead of having only parliament decide, it will be left to a poll where any denizen can vote. Also, unlike most hall of fame, you don't need to be inactive to get inducted into it but you must be active for a much longer period of time compared to denizenship.
Changes will still be made to this but if this is much more preferred, I'll talk to parliament and the president about it.
6 months is a good amount of time to see if someone is active on OT.
still a non-solution, you're just hoping that after a while there will be a concesus between the denizens to know what is vote-worthy, the moment more denizens join with different ideas then we would be back to square one, that's just a patch to try to make the system less likely to fall appart, but there still wont be a strong concesus on what really counts as a good enough contribution
ShinRun wrote:
Shortening the wait time to become denizen is not a smart idea
patatitta will lead the resistance and create a new society called "outsiders" to compete with the denizens, and all this discussion will start the great OT war o:
ShinRun wrote:
Shortening the wait time to become denizen is not a smart idea
It's not going to be a war, it's going to be something like "The ot social question"igorsprite wrote:
patatitta will lead the resistance and create a new society called "outsiders" to compete with the denizens, and all this discussion will start the great OT war o:
look at the main page, there's always the ot coalition, ot government announcement, random new faction and my statement about x and y on top 10
i know it's rp, but all those threads have non rp parts on them that relate to the denizen problem or new features to OT
Topic Starter
NOTICE
For the first time in OT history the OT! Parliament has passed a vote to revoke denizenship. It is well deserved and serves as a warning against behavior many find inappropriate for this subforum and its health. I am not going to announce who it is since they deserve no spotlight, but I'm sure most of you can figure it out.
it's me o/abraker wrote:
NOTICE
For the first time in OT history the OT! Parliament has passed a vote to revoke denizenship. It is well deserved and serves as a warning against behavior many find inappropriate for this subforum and its health. I am not going to announce who it is since they deserve no spotlight, but I'm sure most of you can figure it out.
Oh god
LMAOOOO BEST DECISION EVER
Oof.
Maybe scratching the names from the images or an X over them would be cool.
Maybe scratching the names from the images or an X over them would be cool.
At least three should be quitted.abraker wrote:
NOTICE
For the first time in OT history the OT! Parliament has passed a vote to revoke denizenship. It is well deserved and serves as a warning against behavior many find inappropriate for this subforum and its health. I am not going to announce who it is since they deserve no spotlight, but I'm sure most of you can figure it out.
Nice 👍
On denizenship, I agree with Karmine that time requirements should be removed, and only contributions matter. Or it could be multiple different sets of requirements to satisfy everyone’s style.
to think the only notable active 7th gen denizen is Corne, Cleveland and Wither.
time flies.
time flies.
They can revoke denizenship now?
Nooooo you forgot me!Zelzatter Zero wrote:
to think the only notable active 7th gen denizen is Corne, Cleveland and Wither.
time flies.
Zel.... I've literally been posting every day.Zelzatter Zero wrote:
to think the only notable active 7th gen denizen is Corne, Cleveland and Wither.
time flies.
There are othersZelzatter Zero wrote:
to think the only notable active 7th gen denizen is Corne, Cleveland and Wither.
time flies.
I dont like this direction
/out
/out
out of what?Patatitta wrote:
I dont like this direction
/out
I'm not going to try becoming denizen in this current systemRigbyuis wrote:
out of what?Patatitta wrote:
I dont like this direction
/out
I believe that being active on OT for 8 months is already enough of a contribution and denizen should and not based off total contribution.
Like what Pataitta said, we really gotta ask what being a denizen mean.
I think a denizen should be more of a badge of dedication for people that have stayed on the forum for a certain period of time like 8 months but also while being semi active. This is the least bias way to give denizenship out to people.
Like what Pataitta said, we really gotta ask what being a denizen mean.
I think a denizen should be more of a badge of dedication for people that have stayed on the forum for a certain period of time like 8 months but also while being semi active. This is the least bias way to give denizenship out to people.
Based afabraker wrote:
NOTICE
For the first time in OT history the OT! Parliament has passed a vote to revoke denizenship. It is well deserved and serves as a warning against behavior many find inappropriate for this subforum and its health. I am not going to announce who it is since they deserve no spotlight, but I'm sure most of you can figure it out.
^ShinRun wrote:
I believe that being active on OT for 8 months is already enough of a contribution and denizen should and not based off total contribution.
Like what Pataitta said, we really gotta ask what being a denizen mean.
I think a denizen should be more of a badge of dedication for people that have stayed on the forum for a certain period of time like 8 months but also while being semi active. This is the least bias way to give denizenship out to people.
im totally agree (in fact, i could realistically say that you readed my mind because i have the exact same thoughts on the problem), the "badge thing" is something i have thought about before but didnt know how to put it in words. hope this criteria and meaning for the denizen concept gets to be final result of these discussions
who?eblf2013 wrote:
At least three should be quitted.abraker wrote:
NOTICE
For the first time in OT history the OT! Parliament has passed a vote to revoke denizenship. It is well deserved and serves as a warning against behavior many find inappropriate for this subforum and its health. I am not going to announce who it is since they deserve no spotlight, but I'm sure most of you can figure it out.
thats not cool, whatever.
I know Igor is not the best human being in the world and abraker is done with his shit, but I still think a restriction is more reasonable than taking away things he contributed to this community and his history here.
why cant he have the same fate as IppE?
I know Igor is not the best human being in the world and abraker is done with his shit, but I still think a restriction is more reasonable than taking away things he contributed to this community and his history here.
why cant he have the same fate as IppE?
Wabraker wrote:
NOTICE
For the first time in OT history the OT! Parliament has passed a vote to revoke denizenship. It is well deserved and serves as a warning against behavior many find inappropriate for this subforum and its health. I am not going to announce who it is since they deserve no spotlight, but I'm sure most of you can figure it out.
Is it retroactive? Asking for a forum friendShinRun wrote:
I believe that being active on OT for 8 months is already enough of a contribution and denizen should and not based off total contribution.
Like what Pataitta said, we really gotta ask what being a denizen mean.
I think a denizen should be more of a badge of dedication for people that have stayed on the forum for a certain period of time like 8 months but also while being semi active. This is the least bias way to give denizenship out to people.
Flanster, Ashton and most likely ppl that earned denizenship then went poof.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
who?eblf2013 wrote:
At least three should be quitted.abraker wrote:
NOTICE
For the first time in OT history the OT! Parliament has passed a vote to revoke denizenship. It is well deserved and serves as a warning against behavior many find inappropriate for this subforum and its health. I am not going to announce who it is since they deserve no spotlight, but I'm sure most of you can figure it out.
Flanster :skull:eblf2013 wrote:
Flanster, Ashton and most likely ppl that earned denizenship then went poof.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
who?eblf2013 wrote:
At least three should be quitted.abraker wrote:
NOTICE
For the first time in OT history the OT! Parliament has passed a vote to revoke denizenship. It is well deserved and serves as a warning against behavior many find inappropriate for this subforum and its health. I am not going to announce who it is since they deserve no spotlight, but I'm sure most of you can figure it out.
I would personally love for igorsprite's account to be restricted, but that is not something in my power.Polyspora wrote:
thats not cool, whatever.
I know Igor is not the best human being in the world and abraker is done with his shit, but I still think a restriction is more reasonable than taking away things he contributed to this community and his history here.
why cant he have the same fate as IppE?
Quite frankly, igorsprite's contributions to OT are as follows
- Some mildly hee-hee-inducing necros from a couple years ago
- Countless posts where he admits to being a (post immediately gets nuked, but both you and I know what word that goes here)
fairghoulybits wrote:
I would personally love for igorsprite's account to be restricted, but that is not something in my power.Polyspora wrote:
thats not cool, whatever.
I know Igor is not the best human being in the world and abraker is done with his shit, but I still think a restriction is more reasonable than taking away things he contributed to this community and his history here.
why cant he have the same fate as IppE?
Quite frankly, igorsprite's contributions to OT are as followsDenizenship has to do with contributions, yes, but more specifically positive contributions. Do we want to celebrate someone who physically can't stop posting about (sentence redacted but you also get the picture)? It is of my opinion, and the opinion of the vast majority of the OT!Government that any positive contributions that igorsprite has made on this subforum have been heavily outweighed by the sheer amount of times he has been given (quite frankly, undeserved) second chances and immediately disregarded them. He has been given numerous opportunities, and he has chosen every single time to not take them.
- Some mildly hee-hee-inducing necros from a couple years ago
- Countless posts where he admits to being a (post immediately gets nuked, but both you and I know what word that goes here)
Wait, so is igor a Cosmodore?
idk, ashton wasnt nearly as bad as igorsprite (just annoying vs being open about that), and from what I remember did have some actual good contributions.ShinRun wrote:
Ashton should also be removed
Well he opening doxxed ColdTooth thoWitherMite wrote:
idk, ashton wasnt nearly as bad as igorsprite (just annoying vs being open about that), and from what I remember did have some actual good contributions.ShinRun wrote:
Ashton should also be removed
oh rightShinRun wrote:
Well he opening doxxed ColdTooth thoWitherMite wrote:
idk, ashton wasnt nearly as bad as igorsprite (just annoying vs being open about that), and from what I remember did have some actual good contributions.ShinRun wrote:
Ashton should also be removed
Doxxing is inexcusable.ShinRun wrote:
Well he opening doxxed ColdTooth thoWitherMite wrote:
idk, ashton wasnt nearly as bad as igorsprite (just annoying vs being open about that), and from what I remember did have some actual good contributions.ShinRun wrote:
Ashton should also be removed
luckily i didn't join ot on the 4th generation 😮💨ShinRun wrote:
Well he opening doxxed ColdTooth thoWitherMite wrote:
idk, ashton wasnt nearly as bad as igorsprite (just annoying vs being open about that), and from what I remember did have some actual good contributions.ShinRun wrote:
Ashton should also be removed
no. despite being a horrible person, i never did anything bad to be restricted[ Sebastian ] wrote:
Wait, so is igor a Cosmodore?
Good or bad, I don't really like removing pieces of history. OT about to become North Korea
Removing undeserving individuals from a list made to nominate people isn't censoring history.
Hey we can at least have NKPOP!Scyla wrote:
Good or bad, I don't really like removing pieces of history. OT about to become North Korea
Yikes.
Anyways, I don't get obsessed with being denizen as much as I used to last time. But losing a title because of a serious bad behaviour is considered to be a wake up call to help improvise yourself.
idk
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I miss my 7th Gen friends.
Anyways, I don't get obsessed with being denizen as much as I used to last time. But losing a title because of a serious bad behaviour is considered to be a wake up call to help improvise yourself.
idk
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I miss my 7th Gen friends.
not many of us are here but we're hereJustABeginner wrote:
Yikes.
Anyways, I don't get obsessed with being denizen as much as I used to last time. But losing a title because of a serious bad behaviour is considered to be a wake up call to help improvise yourself.
idk
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I miss my 7th Gen friends.
I'd opt out of becoming denizen as well. Gonna join The Rejects 😎
z0z wrote:
not many of us are here but we're hereJustABeginner wrote:
Yikes.
Anyways, I don't get obsessed with being denizen as much as I used to last time. But losing a title because of a serious bad behaviour is considered to be a wake up call to help improvise yourself.
idk
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I miss my 7th Gen friends.
This is fucked up at this point
I am revoking my denizensship
/out
I am revoking my denizensship
/out
I think removing people who did bad stuff in the past is fine, but it's a very fine line, personally I would have not done this, deal and learn from your loses
problems start to surge if other people start revoking or get revoked due to not meeting the current criteria or being unhappy with the system, and we're basically 1 step away from that scenario
problems start to surge if other people start revoking or get revoked due to not meeting the current criteria or being unhappy with the system, and we're basically 1 step away from that scenario
OT will turn into a hellhole if that starts happening. And considering abraker's stupid ideas, I would 100% expect him to do that.Patatitta wrote:
...problems start to surge if other people start revoking or get revoked due to not meeting the current criteria or being unhappy with the system, and we're basically 1 step away from that scenario
going from revoking denizen from someone openly being into illegal shit, bringing that into their threads/posts and making it their identity, even after being exiled to retroactively revoking denizenship or kicking out people who speak out is quite a bit more than "one step away"
Its not our fault osu doesnt see what igor's been doing as a bannable offense.
Its not our fault osu doesnt see what igor's been doing as a bannable offense.
what did i do that is illegal? O.oWitherMite wrote:
going from revoking denizen from someone openly being into illegal shit, bringing that into their threads/posts and making it their identity, even after being exiled to retroactively revoking denizenship or kicking out people who speak out is quite a bit more than "one step away"
Its not our fault osu doesnt see what igor's been doing as a bannable offense.
I do not condome or support anything that igor has done, I find it very, very disgusting too
thing is, I dont see how their situation, or the denizen situation in general gains from this change, this is just virtue signaling, denizen problems aren't fixed, but instead, adds something more to worry about (the possibility of people getting removed if they dont meet modern criteria) and also revives the dumpsterfire that is the topic of igor and other person
I understand why you dont want to have bad people in the denizen list, but at the end of the day, I dont think there will be much change at all, I dont think someone is going to decide not to talk in OT because of this, if they know enough where they learn about that, they probably should know what the general opinion is on the matter, I feel this is just adding more fuel to the fire in a very conflictive time in OT, it's just not the right time to do something like this
thing is, I dont see how their situation, or the denizen situation in general gains from this change, this is just virtue signaling, denizen problems aren't fixed, but instead, adds something more to worry about (the possibility of people getting removed if they dont meet modern criteria) and also revives the dumpsterfire that is the topic of igor and other person
I understand why you dont want to have bad people in the denizen list, but at the end of the day, I dont think there will be much change at all, I dont think someone is going to decide not to talk in OT because of this, if they know enough where they learn about that, they probably should know what the general opinion is on the matter, I feel this is just adding more fuel to the fire in a very conflictive time in OT, it's just not the right time to do something like this
Can someone please tell me what Igor did. I am so lost.
he like kids[ Sebastian ] wrote:
Can someone please tell me what Igor did. I am so lost.
and if you guys are going to revoke denizens at least say who, why and when. we're not living in the soviet union, people shouldnt dissapear and no one would notice.
I'm printing all generations now fuck it I'm getting paranoid