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Rhythm32
After a lot of considerations on weather if I should continue being in OT or not. I have concluded that I will not leave OT. But I would try to control my excitement and stuff.

Please forgive 😔
THAT_otaku
I have been revived.
You died?
Topic Starter
Rhythm32

THAT_otaku wrote:

I have been revived.
You died?
Kinda...... I guess.
Joon Yorigami
hi please post new threads instead of reusing ideas
z0z
sorry but who are you
Topic Starter
Rhythm32

Yhuan Debeste wrote:

hi please post new threads instead of reusing ideas
Yeah sure! I would post a new thread tomorrow, will decide on the topic soon.
Manishh

THAT_otaku wrote:

I have been revived.
You died?
Neh he just knocked out

You can't revive a dead person in latest theme
Stomiks
Welcome back. Hope that you're a changed person.
Meah
Hello
[ Rynn ]
i hope you changed.
Patatitta
didn't you die for only 4 days or something, is that even considered dying
Joon Yorigami

Patatitta wrote:

didn't you die for only 4 days or something, is that even considered dying
nah he will be missed in that time frame, unlike my 2 month break
Julian_Kaiser

Patatitta wrote:

didn't you die for only 4 days or something, is that even considered dying
a dead electronic batteries takes faster to revive.
Karmine
igorsprite

Meah wrote:

Hello
HoosierTransfer

igorsprite wrote:

Meah wrote:

Hello
[ Rynn ]

Patatitta wrote:

didn't you die for only 4 days or something, is that even considered dying
good question but ok.
ShinRun
I don’t think there is a need to make a thread every time you leave and come back
Topic Starter
Rhythm32
Well you are indeed right shinrun. Well, I am out of ideas tho :(
Joon Yorigami

Rhthym32 wrote:

Well you are indeed right shinrun. Well, I am out of ideas tho :(
protip: if you have no ideas, don't post; people will think negatively of you if you keep that up
Manishh

Yhuan Debeste wrote:

Rhthym32 wrote:

Well you are indeed right shinrun. Well, I am out of ideas tho :(
protip: if you have no ideas, don't post; people will think negatively of you if you keep that up
just like you didnt post for years : )
Puck_

Manishh wrote:

Yhuan Debeste wrote:

Rhthym32 wrote:

Well you are indeed right shinrun. Well, I am out of ideas tho :(
protip: if you have no ideas, don't post; people will think negatively of you if you keep that up
just like you didnt post for years : )
If it works…it just works
Corne2Plum3
Damn you didn't read the long text that I sent you in private message????
Manishh

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Damn you didn't read the long text that I sent you in private message????
can you send me too
DJ Enetro
ngl I feel like debating "quality" may end up creating another OT Civil War, but I might as well put in my (revised) two cents:

they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but if you want a tl;dr:

Puck- wrote:

If it works…it just works
But if you want a detailed analysis, then here you go. [WARNING: Brief mention of sensitive topics, like politics, included.]

SPOILER
Humans like us... are very interesting species. On one end, you have people who have coordinated the building of the Egyptian pyramids, mediated conflicts such as the Cold War and the ongoing struggle to resolve ethnic injustices. On a global scale, the amount of data is very large, which may be too much for a single person to comprehend alone in a given timeframe. Even if you delegate people to do such tasks they will empirically have their own biases, anxieties and fears [which for me seems to be the base of racism, ethnic discrimination etc irl.]

On the other end, there are people who, because of their own desires which also tend to drown out consideration for other people, do things to try and find satisfaction, good or not. Hence you have ongoing ethnic discrimination between Israel and Palestine structurally influenced by Zionism, and Islamist extremism overly responding to rapid changes which they view to be an overall threat.

Yhuan Debeste wrote:

protip: if you have no ideas, don't post; people will think negatively of you if you keep that up
From the above two observations of the (visibly) limitless positive and negative potential of people, I might conclude that this statement may be interpreted in a different way as Rhthym32 might, and conflate "people in general" with "everyone." It's also why I tend to communicate in a more diplomatic manner these days; while conversations between friends may not need to have the context explicitly stated, a newcomer to Off Topic, any forum, or any community in general will either need to have the context explained to them, or glean the context themselves; the latter of which I believe is not an easy task.

Yhuan Debeste wrote:

hi please post new threads instead of reusing ideas
Of course, there is also the option of taking an existing idea and adding your own spin to it.

Rhthym32 wrote:

After a lot of considerations on weather if I should continue being in OT or not. I have concluded that I will not leave OT. But I would try to control my excitement and stuff.

Please forgive 😔
I would like to surmise that forgiveness is a skill, just like discipline and real-life jobs are. You may find it easier to forgive certain people over another, and you may find that some things are harder to forgive than others. Here, I would like to paraphrase the venerable Ajahn Brahm in two things:

  1. that forgiveness is allowing yourself to feel pain, and
  2. that forgiveness must be unconditional. Although shaped by the environment a person grows up in, their mind can also bring up memories at random moments, catching a person off-guard if the memory is unwanted.

Applying these analyses to OT, we find that there are some people who have an easier time forgiving people whose actions are deemed annoying or offensive to them, and some people who find that hard to do.

Conclusions and Recommendations:

  1. Don't be too hung up on following one person for advice. Like science and Buddhism implore, try and experiment.
  2. Remain aware of the fact that while it would be ideal for everyone in OT to forgive your actions they dislike, that's a journey only they can walk. Focus on the here and now, and what you can do.
  3. Having multiple sources to see how OT Denizens behave never hurts. Being in the OT Discord works wonders towards this (although I don't have the link and can't find it yet.)
  4. If you want to post threads, necropost, etc, without an awareness of what etiquette is, then nothing is stopping you. (besides; with time constraints, that may be part of the process of maturing.) Just be aware that because you act on an informational gap, you risk finding out that your behavior is contrary to what people are comfortable with, and because of the potential emotional reactions that come with sudden change, opening a Pandora's Box of sorts.
Topic Starter
Rhythm32
If anyone wants to know what corne told me. Yeah, TBH I don't know if I should take a break from OT or not. I have decided that I will not take a break. But... I will try my best "not" to post frequently. tl;dr I don't care about denizen title now :P And now I feel much better.

Read if you want to
30 MARCH 2022
Corne2Plum3
Hello ^^ I see you a lot of time in OT but I wonder... How old are you?
01:25
Rhthym32
I am sixteen... I am taking a break now
I just logged in to edit my "me" section that I am taking a break
21:45
*sigh* whatever I did till date was annoying and irritating. I should apologize but I don't know how
I never knew that posting this much in fg would make me spamming in fg
21:46
How should I apologize
21:47
Corne2Plum3
I gonna be honest: you annoyed A LOT of people in OT while you were here: you posted (or even spammed) just to attract attention and getting denizen title. This is NOT a title you farm, but a title you deserve for having a nice behavior and activity for several months.
22:29
This is not your situation: you started posting in OT less than 1 month ago, creating shitty low quality threads only for begging the denizen title. The result, you could see it, a lot of active users hate you.
And the fact you're trying to "apologize" by overdramating the situation doesn't help: it's weird (your me! section counts) and people don't think this is honest.
And you repeated the same mistakes, over and over. It was not 1 time people told you to stop having this behavior, but SEVERAL times, like someone unable to learn from himself.
I think right now you have no f*cking way to be accepted in OT. The only thing you can do, for the sake of you and everyone, just diseappear, and for a looooooooooooong time. Just don't post in OT, for, I think, at least 6 months.
Don't apologize, you can't do that well and make the things worse. Just give us the time to forget you and your bad actions. During this time, either forget us or think during a long time about your behavior and yourself. Then MAYBE you can go back, with more maturity, and finally being accepted. Just don't post.
Manishh
@Corne2Plum3 send me some advice too

Rhthym32 wrote:

Read if you want to
30 MARCH 2022
Corne2Plum3
Hello ^^ I see you a lot of time in OT but I wonder... How old are you?
01:25
Rhthym32
I am sixteen... I am taking a break now
I just logged in to edit my "me" section that I am taking a break
21:45
*sigh* whatever I did till date was annoying and irritating. I should apologize but I don't know how
I never knew that posting this much in fg would make me spamming in fg
21:46
How should I apologize
21:47
Corne2Plum3
I gonna be honest: you annoyed A LOT of people in OT while you were here: you posted (or even spammed) just to attract attention and getting denizen title. This is NOT a title you farm, but a title you deserve for having a nice behavior and activity for several months.
22:29
This is not your situation: you started posting in OT less than 1 month ago, creating shitty low quality threads only for begging the denizen title. The result, you could see it, a lot of active users hate you.
And the fact you're trying to "apologize" by overdramating the situation doesn't help: it's weird (your me! section counts) and people don't think this is honest.
And you repeated the same mistakes, over and over. It was not 1 time people told you to stop having this behavior, but SEVERAL times, like someone unable to learn from himself.
I think right now you have no f*cking way to be accepted in OT. The only thing you can do, for the sake of you and everyone, just diseappear, and for a looooooooooooong time. Just don't post in OT, for, I think, at least 6 months.
Don't apologize, you can't do that well and make the things worse. Just give us the time to forget you and your bad actions. During this time, either forget us or think during a long time about your behavior and yourself. Then MAYBE you can go back, with more maturity, and finally being accepted. Just don't post.
I don't think 6 months are needed in my perspective because I don't think anyone even care to "hate" him, at least I dont.
My advice is still the same. Take your time and think about what you did wrong which created all of this mess. Everyone do mistakes, I did too(I am not the best example), But avoid those mistakes are bad move and you should just focus to not make those mistakes rather than trying to fix those mistakes
DJ Enetro

Rhthym32 wrote:

If anyone wants to know what corne told me. Yeah, TBH I don't know if I should take a break from OT or not. I have decided that I will not take a break. But... I will try my best "not" to post frequently. tl;dr I don't care about denizen title now :P And now I feel much better.
I mean, we all take breaks from OT from time to time, but the real thing is how long of a break one should take. If we take into account my forgiveness points above, that's definitely something... interesting to consider, since there is no face-to-face interaction to determine how much one has forgiven another for the latter's behavior perceived as offensive, annoying, or any other related negative qualities.

In real life, social conversation is like trying to find which point in the music is best for a certain instrument to jump in. However, on forums, there are people that can't empirically ignore threads and end up wishing the person who created them gone, to ease their anxiety and all that. Anyways, let's see the box...

Read if you want to
30 MARCH 2022
Corne2Plum3
Hello ^^ I see you a lot of time in OT but I wonder... How old are you?
01:25
Rhthym32
I am sixteen... I am taking a break now
I just logged in to edit my "me" section that I am taking a break
21:45
*sigh* whatever I did till date was annoying and irritating. I should apologize but I don't know how
I never knew that posting this much in fg would make me spamming in fg
21:46
How should I apologize
21:47
Corne2Plum3
I gonna be honest: you annoyed A LOT of people in OT while you were here: you posted (or even spammed) just to attract attention and getting denizen title. This is NOT a title you farm, but a title you deserve for having a nice behavior and activity for several months.
22:29
This is not your situation: you started posting in OT less than 1 month ago, creating shitty low quality threads only for begging the denizen title. The result, you could see it, a lot of active users hate you.
And the fact you're trying to "apologize" by overdramating the situation doesn't help: it's weird (your me! section counts) and people don't think this is honest.
And you repeated the same mistakes, over and over. It was not 1 time people told you to stop having this behavior, but SEVERAL times, like someone unable to learn from himself.
I think right now you have no f*cking way to be accepted in OT. The only thing you can do, for the sake of you and everyone, just diseappear, and for a looooooooooooong time. Just don't post in OT, for, I think, at least 6 months.
Don't apologize, you can't do that well and make the things worse. Just give us the time to forget you and your bad actions. During this time, either forget us or think during a long time about your behavior and yourself. Then MAYBE you can go back, with more maturity, and finally being accepted. Just don't post.

I would have to go into the weeds and create a TED talk on identity and community interaction to expatiate about Corne2Plum3's first point, but unfortunately, it is the "type of visible" a person is that people end up judging by. I guess I would say that wanting to becoming more mature is definitely a good thing to start from, but hmmm... it would be a better use of your time to figure out a roadmap first and posting about that instead of just saying "I want to become better."

Regretfully, the act of apologizing is making yourself vulnerable. While it makes sense that a person expected to apologize may want to act defensive (and because of the chaos of emotions, this happens quite often irl and online), try to remember that if you want to convince other people that you are sincere in your desire to improve, do your best to let them lecture you, let them rant about all the bad things that you have done, and once they have finished speaking, you can ask questions.

A side note: NEVER let anyone tell you that there is such a thing as a stupid question, for questions are meant to be asked to resolve discrepancies and make people feel secure.

To the end above, merely expressing feelings of regret multiple times will not satiate the feelings of the offended as much as a "roadplan for improvement" offered up for critique.

Here is where I stray farther into opinion here:

Where some see as unchangable, I see as fixable, but deeply misguided
t/1548163 was... not the best one, to say the least.

[quote="HoosierTransfer]yeah we would stop bullying you if you would stopwhile I disagree with, in the strongest possible terms, the way this sentiment was expressed, I can understand why: "wishing will not make it so."

this person would probably be better to listen to, if they had the time to talk:

synthwavesquid wrote:

for the love of everything holy, unholy, in between and outside of those concepts, stop making attention/approval your main motivation/s for posting in OT. you are going to regret it

i don't want to discourage the passion, i just want to discourage the way it's happening right now. the way you treat this subforum is practically parasocial in nature. you seem to believe that the people here are close friends, going by how you act, but that simply isn't true. this isn't healthy for you, and it creeps other people out. you can be passionate about making threads on OT while not thinking in this manner

i'm less annoyed by you and more just concerned for your wellbeing at this point. the fanboying was funny for a bit, but it's become clear at this point that it isn't just a persona

i recommend you take a break from OT to calm down and just properly think things through. and when you come back, don't make it a spectacle like you tried to do here. not because it's annoying, but because you'd just be going back to your current behaviour
t/1543298 and t/1539114 seemed to have more interaction and less emotional outburst, which I hope abraker factors into their OT!Coins algorithm.

I mean idk, I'm not the person with the best "social common sense" around here, as I struggle to quantify it in terms of an algorithm every now and then.

Feel free to reply if you have any other questions.

EDIT

Manishh wrote:

@Corne2Plum3 send me some advice too
I don't think 6 months are needed in my perspective because I don't think anyone even care to "hate" him, at least I dont.
My advice is still the same. Take your time and think about what you did wrong which created all of this mess. Everyone do mistakes, I did too(I am not the best example), But avoid those mistakes are bad move and you should just focus to not make those mistakes rather than trying to fix those mistakes

(wth, quotes aren't working well here. My response below:)

I definitely concur with this. With the rise of social media and the fast technological changes happening it's practically impossible to avoid running into these problems, unless you're morally strong enough to live as a monk for the rest of your life. Actually, I never even thought about the point you made before you said it...
In the interests of time, try to avoid being a perfectionist when it comes to social interaction.
igorsprite
@DJ Enetro you are so moderate 😭
DJ Enetro

igorsprite wrote:

@DJ Enetro you are so moderate 😭
what can I say, once you delve into the workings of political science and always remember to treat everyone with kindness, it's become a habit (that you can pick up too!). :3
Karmine
Damn that's a lot of text, is there anything new?
Manishh

DJ Enetro wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

@DJ Enetro you are so moderate 😭
what can I say, once you delve into the workings of political science and always remember to treat everyone with kindness, it's become a habit (that you can pick up too!). :3
He is saying that you need to pick up this habit because you suck
DJ Enetro

Karmine wrote:

Damn that's a lot of text, is there anything new?
aside from breaking down the process of maturing into specific, actionable and reasonable chunks? *cough cough*
igorsprite

DJ Enetro wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

@DJ Enetro you are so moderate 😭
what can I say, once you delve into the workings of political science and always remember to treat everyone with kindness, it's become a habit (that you can pick up too!). :3
but i treat everyone with kindness, even people who dislike me (like everyone :v)
DJ Enetro

igorsprite wrote:

but i treat everyone with kindness, even people who dislike me (like everyone :v)
would you be able to still do so if you were to try to delve into politics, form political opinions, and work out actionable + timely policy solutions while managing the stress that comes along with it? 💭

EDIT:

also, I should clarify that quote above to say “if you are fairly confident about your ability to stay cool under pressure or at least know when to pause when your emotions go haywire” instead of “always treat everyone with kindness”

such is my mind too, going everywhere
igorsprite

DJ Enetro wrote:

would you be able to still do so if you were to try to delve into politics, form political opinions, and work out actionable + timely policy solutions while managing the stress that comes along with it? 💭
yes, treating someone badly goes against my principles
DJ Enetro

igorsprite wrote:

yes, treating someone badly goes against my principles
I say this too, but when I get stressed enough sometimes I forget about this and turn my attention to clearing away the object of revulsion that pops up in my head
igorsprite

DJ Enetro wrote:

I say this too, but when I get stressed enough sometimes I forget about this and turn my attention to clearing away the object of revulsion that pops up in my head
could you give an example of this type of situation?
DJ Enetro

igorsprite wrote:

could you give an example of this type of situation?
hmmm...

while I'm doing homework my mind sometimes wanders off to the 64-player game of Neptune's Pride I'm playing and the state of US-China relations, among other things

all the stress seems to pile up into a single mass that I then wish went away, but I end up actually shouting stuff along the lines of "go away, I don't want you messing my life up"


Does this suffice for you?
Puck_
Tf did this thread turn into
igorsprite

DJ Enetro wrote:

hmmm...

while I'm doing homework my mind sometimes wanders off to the 64-player game of Neptune's Pride I'm playing and the state of US-China relations, among other things

all the stress seems to pile up into a single mass that I then wish went away, but I end up actually shouting stuff along the lines of "go away, I don't want you messing my life up"


Does this suffice for you?
i don't know why someone would be stressed about that to the point of offending someone, but oke
DJ Enetro

igorsprite wrote:

i don't know why someone would be stressed about that to the point of offending someone, but oke
Unfortunately, while keeping one foot in logic, you also have to get your other foot out of logic, into emotions and feelings. For these kinds of situations, "if someone wants anything badly enough, good or bad, then it's possible" is the key to truly understand what I say.

Regarding the example above, the best way I can analogize it atm... It's like, you are feeling fine, living your life, until another 9-11 happens to the apartment complex you may live in. Once you find out that a terrorist group was behind the source of the attacks, are you more likely to find out the origins and beliefs of the terrorist group, or are you going to wish for the annihilation of said group?
Patatitta

Karmine wrote:

I've never seen the original sample, that's cool
igorsprite

DJ Enetro wrote:

Regarding the example above, the best way I can analogize it atm... It's like, you are feeling fine, living your life, until another 9-11 happens to the apartment complex you may live in. Once you find out that a terrorist group was behind the source of the attacks, are you more likely to find out the origins and beliefs of the terrorist group, or are you going to wish for the annihilation of said group?
idk, probably the 2nd option, but now are going to extreme in your situations O.o

other thing is that the 9-11 doesn't have the same impact for me since i'm not from US and these things doesn't happen in brazil. btw, if something like that happened here, depending on where the plane hits people would be celebrating.
Joon Yorigami
oh god a civil conversation
Puck_

Yhuan Debeste wrote:

oh god a civil conversation
I use to think such a thing didn’t exist in OT.
[ Rynn ]

Puck- wrote:

Yhuan Debeste wrote:

oh god a civil conversation
I use to think such a thing didn’t exist in OT.
same man
abraker

DJ Enetro wrote:

ngl I feel like debating "quality" may end up creating another OT Civil War
The OT Civil War was caused by denizens clashing between new and old cultures. Unless there is another rapid cultural shift, there won't be another war.
igorsprite

Yhuan Debeste wrote:

oh god a civil conversation
and i'm part of it
Manishh
I think viper is the hottest game character
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