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Vicho
The video is unrankeable :/
Astom

Ekaru wrote:

Easy:

01:56:061 (2,3,4) - (2) obscures (4)'s slider track for a bit. This confused me. I don't see any problem with that so no changes

Vicho-kun wrote:

The video is unrankeable :/ Help with your censored ver.?
Topic Starter
merchat7
I assume you mean that it contains 18+ content which breaks one of the Official Ranking Submission Criteria. However, at the moment,, you can break those rule in special cases since they are all just guidelines. The (Not Yet) Official Ranking Submission Rules and Guidelines is being discussed here viewtopic.php?f=3&t=56528&st=0&sk=t&sd=a. Feel free to read through it (part about video and last page recommended). Also http://osu.ppy.sh/s/32898 have a uncensored video as well and this was recently ranked.

I'll add a 18+ warning through just incase. Thanks for the star!
spboxer3
[Astom's Easy]
00:46:658 (1) - up 1 grid(size 4) ?
01:34:120 (1) - let it stack in 01:31:658 (1) - ?

[Normal]
00:41:285 (7) - why here has X1.5 this Normal I think you doesn't need it!
00:49:568 (1,2) - stack?
01:05:016 (4,5) - ^

[eldnL's Hard]
All good

[Insane]
00:44:643 (4) - left and up 1 grid(size 3)?
01:11:061 - remove finish?
01:25:837 (4) - stange rhythm?
01:44:195 (1,2,3) - www not pretty triangle...(fix?)

star~!
wmfchris
[General]
- The vid is quite ero and it should be unrankable.
- SB, make it disappear gradually instead of suddenly.
- Try to put a spinner after it ends (02:00:091)

[Insane]
00:01:434 (4) - +whistle?
00:05:016 (3) - whistle at the first tick only
00:10:837 (1) - place at (400,120)
00:32:105 (3,4) - right 1 grid, (4) whistle
00:34:792 (5) - sounds odd, try to place a single note here, then a 1/2 slider 1 beat after this.
00:50:016 (3,4,5) - try to make them in a better way, the spacing can be tweeked a bit in harder diff.
00:56:956 (3,4) - left 1 grid
00:59:419 (1,2) - clap
01:07:255 (4,5) - whistle
01:26:173 (4) - tweek the direction of slider and extend this by 1/4 beat
01:59:867 (6) - I prefer softer sound.

placement of claps in the kiai time is pretty good for me, just try to be more consistent in placing whistle. Also in insane the rhythm maybe a bit empty between two phrases, and more creation on the rhythm maybe needed.

[Hard]
01:59:867 (5) - I prefer softer sound.

really nice.

[Normal]
OD+1? ._.
00:00:091 (1) - try this code
128,64,91,2,0,B|164:96|164:96|256:96,1,140
that (1,3) completely overlaps.
01:05:016 (4,5) - stack properly
01:22:926 (5) - stack on the slider properly
01:59:867 (4) - ._. ~

Astom's diff would be as good as usual.

Normal -> the placement of hitsound is much better than insane ._____. Just one more problem: try to stack things properly, use more precise tools like grid level 4 or off the grid snap to stack or tweek the sliders that objects are stacks on the same pixels.

Insane -> may need more mods especially on hitsounds, some doubts on new combo as well? : /
Topic Starter
merchat7
spboxer3
SPOILER

spboxer3 wrote:

[Normal]
00:41:285 (7) - why here has X1.5 this Normal I think you doesn't need it! Just something to make it more interesting and it feels better imo
00:49:568 (1,2) - stack? already stacked? and i think it's stacked perfectly
01:05:016 (4,5) - ^ No, keeping consistency with similar combos in this diff. eg. 00:31:658 (1,2,3,4)

[Insane]
00:44:643 (4) - left and up 1 grid(size 3)? Done
01:11:061 - remove finish? K
01:25:837 (4) - stange rhythm? fine to me, but may change if you got some ideas
01:44:195 (1,2,3) - www not pretty triangle...(fix?) Fixed, move (2) one grid right in grid 3
wmfchris
SPOILER

wmfchris wrote:

[General]
- The vid is quite ero and it should be unrankable. Read post I wrote above on this page
- SB, make it disappear gradually instead of suddenly. Intend to let it disappear at the same time as the title, but suggestion followed
- Try to put a spinner after it ends (02:00:091) Need to discuss with Astom & eldnl since it would be weird if only Normal and Insane have a spinner

[Insane]
00:01:434 (4) - +whistle? Done
00:05:016 (3) - whistle at the first tick only Done
00:10:837 (1) - place at (400,120) Done
00:32:105 (3,4) - right 1 grid, (4) whistle Did not specify which size grid, used grid size 4 since 3 feel too much, whistle added
00:34:792 (5) - sounds odd, try to place a single note here, then a 1/2 slider 1 beat after this. Done, rearranged notes to new spacing
00:50:016 (3,4,5) - try to make them in a better way, the spacing can be tweeked a bit in harder diff. Hm, i like how it is now, moved (4,5,6,7) 1 grid left, 1 grid up in grid 3 and adjusted spacing accordingly
00:56:956 (3,4) - left 1 grid Done in grid 4 for same reason as 00:32:105
00:59:419 (1,2) - clap Done
01:07:255 (4,5) - whistle Done
01:26:173 (4) - tweek the direction of slider and extend this by 1/4 beat Done
01:59:867 (6) - I prefer softer sound. Used eldnL's Hard as reference so will change if he changes

placement of claps in the kiai time is pretty good for me, just try to be more consistent in placing whistle. Also in insane the rhythm maybe a bit empty between two phrases, and more creation on the rhythm maybe needed. I'm up for suggestions

[Normal]
OD+1? ._. Done
00:00:091 (1) - try this code
128,64,91,2,0,B|164:96|164:96|256:96,1,140
that (1,3) completely overlaps. Fixed, i think
01:05:016 (4,5) - stack properly Stack as best as i could (no grid snap manually)
01:22:926 (5) - stack on the slider properly ^
01:59:867 (4) - ._. ~ ??

Normal -> the placement of hitsound is much better than insane ._____. Just one more problem: try to stack things properly, use more precise tools like grid level 4 or off the grid snap to stack or tweek the sliders that objects are stacks on the same pixels. Fixed the things you mentioned in your mod

Insane -> may need more mods especially on hitsounds, some doubts on new combo as well? : / Hmm, don't see any big issues with the new combos. Hitsound is probably uninteresting, but there isn't anything that is distracting either. Accepting suggestions.
Thanks for mods! Will ask Astom and eldnl to check their diff. later.
Keyboard_old
Normal:
00:09:270 (3) - Extend to 00:09:829
00:45:986 (1) - Slider can be extended to 00:46:770
00:48:225 (3) - Change the circle to a slider and make it end 00:48:449
01:06:583 (8) - End it at 01:07:367
01:20:464 (2) - Change to a slider that ends at 01:20:911

Insane:
00:09:717 (8) - Turn the circle into a slider that ends at 00:10:389
00:37:479 (3) - Extend to 00:38:150 and then remove circle
01:07:926 (6) - Change it to a slider that ends at 01:08:598
01:29:419 (3) - Can add a 'finish'

That's all I have to say, it was pretty good! :D
Topic Starter
merchat7

Keyboard wrote:

Normal:
00:09:270 (3) - Extend to 00:09:829 Hitsound sound wrong so no
00:45:986 (1) - Slider can be extended to 00:46:770 No since, this will be the only hit object to start/end on a blue tick.
00:48:225 (3) - Change the circle to a slider and make it end 00:48:449 Keeping consistency with the past combo so no.
01:06:583 (8) - End it at 01:07:367 Blue tick so no.
01:20:464 (2) - Change to a slider that ends at 01:20:911 Done

Insane:
00:09:717 (8) - Turn the circle into a slider that ends at 00:10:389 Done, long slider so had to make some weird shape, may remove if someone suggest to do so
00:37:479 (3) - Extend to 00:38:150 and then remove circle Circle feel better so no
01:07:926 (6) - Change it to a slider that ends at 01:08:598 Long slider again, used the same shape as the slider in 00:09:717
01:29:419 (3) - Can add a 'finish' Already is a finish here
Thanks for mod
HakuNoKaemi
[General]
- The vid is quite ero and it should be unrankable.
There are only a few scenes plus it could be considered 16+ only in one point, because the rest are cutted. So it isn't unrankable.

[Astom's Easy]
00:05:016 (3) - 1 Less repeat seems better ( were following voice... so.. )

[Normal]
00:03:673 (1) - a 1/1 repeat slider feel better Example
00:07:255 (1) - One less repeat and add 00:08:598 (2) -
00:10:837 (5,6,7) - Soft Hitsound on those
00:39:493 (2) - Manually Stack or Make Stack Leniency much lower and manually stack 00:40:389 (4,5) - (example, Press Shift + Ctrl while doing this)
00:43:523 (2) - Blanket for 00:44:643 (3) - Like this
00:47:105 (2) - Same thing here
01:05:911 (6,7) - Place them like this
01:18:673 (5) - Make it an Arch? it seems to flow better Example
01:19:792 (6,7,8) - Move and reshape like [url=http://puu.sh/3zkt]this[/url]?

[eldnL's Hard]
00:09:493 (x) - Add a Note
00:09:717 (x) - Substitute it with a slider ( this seems good )
00:11:285 (1,2,3,4) - Soft Hitsound are better here
00:41:285 (6) - Make it more similiar to a blanket?

[Insane]
00:27:516 (3) - 2 grid up or down(like 00:25:389 (2,3,4) - )
00:30:314 (4) - Blanket 00:30:091 (3) - ( refer to image of the next suggestion )
00:30:762 (5) - like this
00:35:016 (6) - You're stopping after Vocal end... so delete this note?
00:48:001 (3,4) - don't like the overlap
01:07:926 (6) - Use a different shape like Blanket? Blanket with correct spacing?
01:46:658 (2) - 2 grid down ( or up )
01:47:889 (2) - 2 grid up ( or down )
01:49:008 (2) - 2 grid down ( or up )
01:49:568 (5) - stack under the position 01:49:008 (2) - have now
01:50:799 (3) - 2 grid right ( or left )
01:53:822 (3) - ^
01:55:053 (3) - 2 grid left ( or right )
01:56:173 (2) - 2 grid up ( or down )
01:56:844 (6) - 2 grid down ( or up )

Most were on graphic side, so... i can STAR!
eldnl

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

[eldnL's Hard]
00:09:493 (x) - Add a Note Nop
00:09:717 (x) - Substitute it with a slider ( this seems good ) Nop
00:11:285 (1,2,3,4) - Soft Hitsound are better here Nop
00:41:285 (6) - Make it more similiar to a blanket? Okay
Thanks ~

Download: Sakakibara Yui - Himitsujikake no apple (merchat7) [eldnL's Hard].osu
Roddie
Hey.

Oh, Look. I got to mod the same song again.

Oh, one thing I should say. Sorry, man but you're not going to get your map ranked because some parts of the video is a bit too much, you know? Like this one for example. By the way, I've checked osuplayer111's map that contains the same video and he made the right move of censoring some parts of the video. You should probably do the same. :P

General
  1. If you're going to have a hitcircle.png in your map's folder, you got to have a hitcircleoverlay.png and a approachcircle .png.
  2. If you have a cursor.png in your map's folder, you got to have a cursortrail.png.
  3. Insane has a different preview point than eldnL's Hard, Normal and Astom's Easy.
  4. Maybe a lead-in time of 2 seconds is better than 3 seconds.

Astom's Easy
  1. 01:48:896 (2)-Add a finish on the end?

Normal
  1. Hmm... Maybe decrease both the Overall Difficulty and Approach Rate by one tick?
  2. 00:10:389 (x)-Add a note here? Plus, add a clap as well?
  3. 00:10:837 (5)-Put a new combo here?
  4. 00:28:076 (1)-Add a finish on the end.
  5. 00:42:404 (1)-^
  6. 00:53:374 (1)-^
  7. 00:55:389 (4)-Add a finish on the beginning.
  8. 01:00:986 (5)-Add a finish on the beginning. And put a new combo here?
  9. 01:09:046 (2)-Add a finish on the beginning.
  10. 01:26:732 (6)-^
  11. 01:49:344 (9)-Put a new combo here?
  12. 01:54:493 (5)-Add a finish?

eldnL's Hard
  1. 01:45:314 (x)-It feels like there should be a note here.... and a clap maybe?

Insane
  1. 00:26:285 (6)-Add a finish on the end?
  2. 00:53:598 (2)-^
  3. 00:57:180 (4)-Add a finish.
  4. 01:16:882 (5)-^
  5. 01:31:210 (5)-^
  6. 01:52:702 (6)-I think it would be better if you remove the finish from the beginning and add a finish on the end...

Good luck. :P And here's a star.

Edit: Fixing a few grammar mistakes.
Astom

spboxer3 wrote:

[Astom's Easy]
00:46:658 (1) - up 1 grid(size 4) ? ._. no
01:34:120 (1) - let it stack in 01:31:658 (1) - ? no

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

[Astom's Easy]
00:05:016 (3) - 1 Less repeat seems better ( were following voice... so.. ) no

wmfchris wrote:

Astom's diff would be as good as usual. xD thx

Roddie wrote:

01:48:896 (2)-Add a finish on the end? ok
Topic Starter
merchat7
HakuNoKaemi
SPOILER

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

[Normal]
00:03:673 (1) - a 1/1 repeat slider feel better Example Done
00:07:255 (1) - One less repeat and add 00:08:598 (2) - Done
00:10:837 (5,6,7) - Soft Hitsound on those Done
00:39:493 (2) - Manually Stack or Make Stack Leniency much lower and manually stack 00:40:389 (4,5) - (example, Press Shift + Ctrl while doing this) Not really sure if i fixed since it already look perfectly stacked to me. Moved a little bit with grid and distant snap turn off.
00:43:523 (2) - Blanket for 00:44:643 (3) - Like this Tried my best to copy your slider, done
00:47:105 (2) - Same thing here ^
01:05:911 (6,7) - Place them like this Done
01:18:673 (5) - Make it an Arch? it seems to flow better Example Again, tried my best to copy your slider
01:19:792 (6,7,8) - Move and reshape like this? k Done

[Insane]
00:27:516 (3) - 2 grid up or down(like 00:25:389 (2,3,4) - ) Done
00:30:314 (4) - Blanket 00:30:091 (3) - ( refer to image of the next suggestion ) Done
00:30:762 (5) - like this ^
00:35:016 (6) - You're stopping after Vocal end... so delete this note? Weird, why was that slider there in the first place, but i'll keep it to keep with the "flow"
00:48:001 (3,4) - don't like the overlap Feels a little weird, but don't have any other ideas.
01:07:926 (6) - Use a different shape like Blanket? Blanket with correct spacing? Done
01:46:658 (2) - 2 grid down ( or up ) Prefer 1 grid. Down
01:47:889 (2) - 2 grid up ( or down ) ^ up
01:49:008 (2) - 2 grid down ( or up ) ^ down
01:49:568 (5) - stack under the position 01:49:008 (2) - have now Done
01:50:799 (3) - 2 grid right ( or left ) ^ right
01:53:822 (3) - ^ ^ Right
01:55:053 (3) - 2 grid left ( or right ) ^ left
01:56:173 (2) - 2 grid up ( or down ) ^ up
01:56:844 (6) - 2 grid down ( or up ) ^ down

Most were on graphic side, so... i can STAR!
Roddie
SPOILER

Roddie wrote:

General
  1. If you're going to have a hitcircle.png in your map's folder, you got to have a hitcircleoverlay.png and a approachcircle .png. Deleted since it was simply a more white hitcircle.png
  2. If you have a cursor.png in your map's folder, you got to have a cursortrail.png. Done, add the one from the templateskin
  3. Insane has a different preview point than eldnL's Hard, Normal and Astom's Easy. took me a while to find out how to check what the preview point were for the other difficulties. Fixed
  4. Maybe a lead-in time of 2 seconds is better than 3 seconds.Done

Normal
  1. Hmm... Maybe decrease both the Overall Difficulty and Approach Rate by one tick? Done
  2. 00:10:389 (x)-Add a note here? Plus, add a clap as well? Tried it, feels odd so no
  3. 00:10:837 (5)-Put a new combo here? Done
  4. 00:28:076 (1)-Add a finish on the end. Done
  5. 00:42:404 (1)-^ ^
  6. 00:53:374 (1)-^ ^
  7. 00:55:389 (4)-Add a finish on the beginning. Done
  8. 01:00:986 (5)-Add a finish on the beginning. And put a new combo here? Done
  9. 01:09:046 (2)-Add a finish on the beginning. Done
  10. 01:26:732 (6)-^ ^
  11. 01:49:344 (9)-Put a new combo here? would be odd for this to be the only 1 combo
  12. 01:54:493 (5)-Add a finish? Done

Insane
  1. 00:26:285 (6)-Add a finish on the end? Done
  2. 00:53:598 (2)-^ ^
  3. 00:57:180 (4)-Add a finish. Done
  4. 01:16:882 (5)-^ ^
  5. 01:31:210 (5)-^ ^
  6. 01:52:702 (6)-I think it would be better if you remove the finish from the beginning and add a finish on the end... Done

Good luck. :P And here's a star.

Regarding video...

merchat7 wrote:

I assume you mean that it contains 18+ content which breaks one of the Official Ranking Submission Criteria. However, at the moment,, you can break those rule in special cases since they are all just guidelines. I'll leave it for BAT to decide. The (Not Yet) Official Ranking Submission Rules and Guidelines is being discussed here viewtopic.php?f=3&t=56528&st=0&sk=t&sd=a. Feel free to read through it (part about video and last page recommended). Also http://osu.ppy.sh/s/32898 have a uncensored video as well and this was recently ranked. There are a few scene which is definitely not suitable for PG 12.
And about http://puu.sh/3zUU , I'd say this is already censored somewhat (usage of soap to cover the main parts). There isn't any straight forward hentai stuff in the video. I'm quite surprised osuplayer censored the video. If you want to see a video that should definitely be censored, check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2c_MwFVeko. Coincidentally there is a censored version uploaded to youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pGGuHNF_Co. Note i may map this song one day since i like song by Katakiri Rekka :P So there's my reason for not censoring.

Thanks for stars and mods.
indyinyou
[Hard]
00:42:180 : move to 00:42:404 and add fin
01:40:837 : fin

[insane

00:11:508 : add note
00:41:620 : clap volum 40 ~ 45 %
00:41:956 : ^
00:43:076 : fin

good map star ~
Topic Starter
merchat7

indyinyou wrote:

[Hard] Will ask eldnl to check his diff. later.
00:42:180 : move to 00:42:404 and add fin
01:40:837 : fin

[insane]

00:11:508 : add note No, doesn't feel right for me.
00:41:620 : clap volum 40 ~ 45 % You mean, lower the volume for this section? The clap is part of the mp3. If so, done.
00:41:956 : ^ ^
00:43:076 : fin Done

good map star ~
Ty for mod and star
Snowy Dream
[Astom's Easy]
01:17:329 (x) - add a note


[eldnL's Hard]
02:00:091 (1) - try to end at 02:05:799


[Insane]
00:48:001 (3,4) - looks not very nice
01:43:523 (6,7) - (6)move to (x:48 y:256),then add a note at 01:43:635, stack [New](8) behind (6,[New]7)
------------------------------------------
Nice map ;)
Star~☆
Topic Starter
merchat7

Snowy Dream wrote:

[eldnL's Hard]
02:00:091 (1) - try to end at 02:05:799 no, since all the other spinner in other diffs end at 02:05:911 and I prefer spinner to end on a white tick.


[Insane]
00:48:001 (3,4) - looks not very nice Seems ok, but if you have a suggestion, feel free to suggest it.
01:43:523 (6,7) - (6)move to (x:48 y:256),then add a note at 01:43:635, stack [New](8) behind (6,[New]7) Basically, stack (6,7,8) right? Also i adjusted the spacing for this part so that all the hit circles become perfectly symmetrical
------------------------------------------
Nice map ;)
Star~☆
Astom will check his diff later. Ty for mod and star!
grvyd
why this map isnt ranked yet?

title:Himitsujikake no apple (Short Ver.)
Topic Starter
merchat7

flatps wrote:

why this map isnt ranked yet?

title:Himitsujikake no apple (Short Ver.)
k done

Ty for star!
eldnl

Roddie wrote:

[list][*]01:45:314 (x)-It feels like there should be a note here.... and a clap maybe? Ok fixed

indyinyou wrote:

[Hard]
00:42:180 : move to 00:42:404 and add fin Sure
01:40:837 : fin okk

Snowy Dream wrote:

[eldnL's Hard]
02:00:091 (1) - try to end at 02:05:799 No, but I think it's better if you move the spin merchat
Thanks a lot guys ~

Download: Sakakibara Yui - Himitsujikake no apple (Short Ver.) (merchat7) [eldnL's Hard].osu
Backfire
Is it bad that when I saw apple I said "Oh shit another bad apple ;~;"?
Topic Starter
merchat7
@eldnl
kk will change spinner for all difficulties
@Backfire
lol, ty for star ^^
Astom

Snowy Dream wrote:

[Astom's Easy]
01:17:329 (x) - add a note no
- Rche -
i'm perfectly fine with this map.
just one thing bothered me.
why don't you silence the final spinner (or at least the end of it)?

+star and no kds.
Topic Starter
merchat7
@justnobody

For me, if you silence the spinner, it's like there's no spinner at all so what's the point of adding it in the first place.

Ty for star
Aleks719
General
I don't like 18+, so without video.
Only 3 diffs in Beatmap Listing, but i take 4 diffs after dl.
combobursts have unrankable resolution yours 500x600 instead of 388x767. Cut or rezise them please.
Custom sounds used only in Astom's diff! I guess you could use them too. Aaaaand normal-sliderslide is used nowhere. Remove it or use it too.
Too many useless bookmarks, remove them with notepad if you have a time.

Insane
00:41:061 (6,7,8) - end of (6), (7), (8) - add claps
01:16:658 - no. make claps from here 01:21:135 (4) - remove claps before this point, they sounds bad. Or use custom clap. It sounds not so ugly as default here.
01:26:508 (5) - why claps stopped? keep rhythm.

eldnL's Hard
00:56:732 (3,4) - this jump confused me in 1st trying
Same about claps in kiai
01:45:314 (1) - remove this random clap

Normal
00:02:105 (4) - remove claps from slider
00:05:016 (2,3,4) - imo, it must be (timeline) :
00:30:762 (4) - claps... you didn't use then in other diff, i think, you could keep use whistles. remove claps
00:34:344 (4) - ^
00:37:031 (1,2,3) - ^ etc etc, imo, sounds not perfect. They don't make rhythm.
Same about claps in kiai like in Insane.

Distance : use distance snap in Normals.
00:05:016 (2,3) - too far
00:30:314 (3,4) - ^
00:41:061 (6,7) - too close
00:45:091 (4,1) - too far
00:50:688 (2) - is not stacked perfectly with (1)'s end.
01:06:135 (7,8) - too far

Astom's Easy
Set slider tickrate 2 like in other diffs
Yeah, claps not only in Kiai <3
Very nice diff, nothing to say.

Star'd~
Topic Starter
merchat7

Aleks719 wrote:

General
I don't like 18+, so without video.
Only 3 diffs in Beatmap Listing, but i take 4 diffs after dl. It's an error due to database crash, will reupload when this is fixed.
combobursts have unrankable resolution yours 500x600 instead of 388x767. Cut or rezise them please. I check this thread viewtopic.php?f=15&t=51694, it says So, for any combobursts to be correctly shown in game they should be no more than 767px tall and 500px wide. My combobursts are 500px wide and 600px tall (below 767px) so they are ok.
Custom sounds used only in Astom's diff! I guess you could use them too. Aaaaand normal-sliderslide is used nowhere. Remove it or use it too. I'm crap with hitsound, please suggest place to use it. Normal-sliderslide is used in [Insane] 00:09:717 and perhaps other place as well. The file size for it is small anyway so keeping it.
Too many useless bookmarks, remove them with notepad if you have a time. Doesn't make a difference gameplay-wise. Bookmarks are suppose to be used to help with mapping anyways.

Insane
00:41:061 (6,7,8) - end of (6), (7), (8) - add claps Done
01:16:658 - no. make claps from here 01:21:135 (4) - remove claps before this point, they sounds bad. Or use custom clap. It sounds not so ugly as default here. Copied the claps from [eldnL's Hard] will change if he does.
01:26:508 (5) - why claps stopped? keep rhythm. ^

Normal
00:02:105 (4) - remove claps from slider Replaced with whistles
00:05:016 (2,3,4) - imo, it must be (timeline) : (1,2,3) follows the vocal, (4) follow the instrument.
00:30:762 (4) - claps... you didn't use then in other diff, i think, you could keep use whistles. remove clapsReplaced with whistles for now
00:34:344 (4) - ^ ^
00:37:031 (1,2,3) - ^ etc etc, imo, sounds not perfect. They don't make rhythm. ^
Same about claps in kiai like in Insane. Base off eldnL's Hard, will change if he does
Hmm, will keep the claps actually, tested it and i feel clap work great in all those place.

Distance : use distance snap in Normals. I used 1.2x distant snap and grid 3 throughout the whole map
00:05:016 (2,3) - too far No problem with the distant snap and grid that i use.
00:30:314 (3,4) - ^ Manually moved there so that is is perfectly centered, i didn't move it too far from where it should have been so keeping it the same.
00:41:061 (6,7) - too close This is because of the slider velocity change, it would be more confusing if i adjust to distant snapping since all the notes before that are placed similarly in the timeline didn't have that far of a jump.
00:45:091 (4,1) - too far Again, fine with the distant snap and grid that i use.
00:50:688 (2) - is not stacked perfectly with (1)'s end. Should be perfectly stacked now
01:06:135 (7,8) - too far Same as 00:30:314

Star'd~
Ty for star and mod, astom and eldnl will check their diff later.
eldnl
I don't know how my diff. up the difficulty to 4.51 ;_; I try to download the difficulty but I can just to 4.50 D:
Spread NNII sucks ;_;

About the mod, all fixed.

Something else, the spinner-background is 1023x692, try to use 1024x768 or 800x600.
Maybe you can find another BG and spinner-background because these images are in low quality :c

Download: Sakakibara Yui - Himitsujikake no apple (Short Ver.) (merchat7) [eldnL's Hard].osu
Topic Starter
merchat7
@eldnl don't worry about the star rating, your hard is definitely easier than my Insane. Regarding background and spinner background

http://static.minitokyo.net/downloads/3 ... 1371732973
Found this image sometime ago, but didn't use since the ranked version used a similar one. You want me to use it? This is the only clean image i manage to found on google. All others either have the game name on it, or game release date etc. I will resize to 1024x768

http://moeboard.net/egoboard/data/girl/ ... 664594.jpg
Want me to use this image instead? I used the one on the official website but apparently it wasn't very high quality http://www.alma-ringo.com/product/kber/ ... G_01_L.jpg
Spinner background, reason for 1023x692 is template skin's spinner background is 1023x692 so i resize to that.

Current beatmap size is 19.8 mb so if i use a higher quality image, video quality will suffer a bit more so tell me if you really want me to change the images. Your diff has been updated. Ty for late star :P
Zelos
Folder:
All good here!

General:
If the video really is 18+, it probably isn't allowed.
Use the same slider tick rate for all difficulties.

Astom's Easy:
00:39:046 (1) - this kind of doesn't fit. why not just replace it with 2 circles?
You are really good at making easies Astom.

Normal:
00:49:568 (1) - turn on grid snap 4 and move to the right 1 grid point?
01:20:464 (2) - this is very very slightly touching the HP bar.

eldnl's Hard:
00:03:673 (1,2) - stack the ends on top of each other perfectly please.
Your difficulties are always so pretty :D

Insane:
01:59:195 (5,6) - stack the ends just a bit more!

Star
Sallad4ever
Hi merchat7 :D

[General]
- I've read the previous post about this but still the video is not good. I appreciate the warning but even the ranked one are barely rankable with the censored effect. This "bare" video will surely be refused by MAT/BAT. Consider add the same censor or just plain remove the vid
- For the last spinner on each diff. Use 50% or lower volume to decrease the sounds of spinnerspin & spinnerbonus. Also the spinner should be extended another 1/8 beat so it end on 02:05:855 cause the beat of the bell sound is in here

[Astom's Easy]
This diff should be named Normal. Mostly because of the beat after spinners are very soon. Other than that there's nothing bother me

[Normal]
A little tweak and this could easily become a Hard diff
00:00:091 (1) - Add finish at the start
00:00:091 (1) - The timing section here is unnecessary cause you can just lower the volume on the offset
00:03:673 (1) - Whistle at the start?
00:05:464 (4) - Remove the whistle at the start
00:41:285 (7) - The only slider that use 1.5x speed, It's too unexpected. I suggest to use normal slider speed. Also try adding a clap at it too.
00:49:568 (1) - I suggest to remove the anchor point in the middle so the slider will look better

[eldnl's Hard]
Delicious~
00:05:240 (3,1) - This jump is too sudden and doesn't fit very well

[Insane]
Quite an easy Insane
00:28:076 (1) ~ 00:37:479 (3) - Compare to your normal, this part still lack off hitsound. Using the same hitsound pattern as in Normal is ok
00:43:523 (5) ~ 00:48:896 (6) - ^
01:17:329 (1) - Remove NC
01:42:628 (2,4) - Add whistle to these?
01:45:762 (3) - Finish at the start?
01:50:464 (1) - Add whistle
01:59:195 (5) - IMO it's play better if you use normal speed

That's all from me. About the vid if you're not sure about it, you can consult to MAT/BAT, but I'm sure they won't allow it too
Good Luck and Star
winber1
02:00:091 (1) - if you want to follow that bell-like sound thing in the music, this should end at 02:05:837 (1) - (1/6 tick, just play it back at 25%). you should also silence it tho, or make it really soft. the spinner ends too loudly imo >_>. If not, you could just end it on the red tick too (like eldnl's diff). it doesn't really matter, but it just needs to be consistent.

Insane

00:09:717 (8) - 1 grid to the right
00:29:531 (x) - add note? just to follow vocals a little more.
00:33:113 (x) - ^
01:21:471 (x) - ^
01:22:702 (10) - new combo?
01:30:091 (x) - flows better if you add a note here imo.

eldnl's


00:04:568 (2,3,1) - honestly, i would just space this normally. A jump here doesn't fit imo.
00:42:180 (7) - sounds better to me if you delete this note (and rearrange spacing somehow. (this note just puts a random note with soft whistle in a place where the music doesn't really do anything :/ it also feels a little weird to me to play that note.)
01:52:367 (3,4) - i don't like the stack that much, and how you coupled it with this jump 01:52:702 (4,1) - (it bothers me having a jump like that :/)
01:59:867 (6) - unstack?

Normal

00:02:105 (4) - delete claps (and the clap on the slider as whole) and put a whistle at 00:02:32?
00:36:359 (3,1,2,3) - this orientation could be a little confusing for newer players.(i know i would when i really sucked lol >_>. i probably would've tried clicking combo 2 instead of combo 1 and realized what an epic fail that was)
00:59:419 (1,2) - erm.. center this?
01:01:882 (2,3) - replace this with a 1/2 tick repeat slider? so that it follows vocals more
01:36:359 (5) - decrease length of slider by 1/2 tick ?
01:56:508 (9,1) - why the jump?

Astom's

--kiai time is a little different.

01:07:255 (1) - you shuld just make this repeat slider 3/4 ticks in length for each repeat to follow vocals more. you don't have anything after the note anyways :/
01:09:046 (1) - change this into a slider that starts at 01:08:823 and ends 01:09:046
01:58:523 (5) - new combo?

Nice map! :3

Star~~
Topic Starter
merchat7
Zelos
SPOILER

Zelos wrote:

Folder:
All good here! k

General:
If the video really is 18+, it probably isn't allowed. Hm, will wait on mat/bat opinion first.
Use the same slider tick rate for all difficulties. The only difficulty with a different tickrate is astom's, when he check his diff, he will probably fix it.

Normal:
00:49:568 (1) - turn on grid snap 4 and move to the right 1 grid point? I've adjusted this slider in grid 4 so that it is perfectly symmetrical.
01:20:464 (2) - this is very very slightly touching the HP bar. Moved down a little bit more.

Insane:
01:59:195 (5,6) - stack the ends just a bit more! Done

Star

Sallad4ever
SPOILER

Sallad4ever wrote:

Hi merchat7 :D

[General]
- I've read the previous post about this but still the video is not good. I appreciate the warning but even the ranked one are barely rankable with the censored effect. This "bare" video will surely be refused by MAT/BAT. Consider add the same censor or just plain remove the vid Hm will wait on MAT/BAT opinion. Going to remove the warning actually since there is only about 5-10 seconds of the video where it may be consider 18+.
- For the last spinner on each diff. Use 50% or lower volume to decrease the sounds of spinnerspin & spinnerbonus. Also the spinner should be extended another 1/8 beat so it end on 02:05:855 cause the beat of the bell sound is in here Done, regarding spinner length. I was advised by Snowy Dream & eldnl to decrease it by 1/8. It was on where you suggested before.

[Astom's Easy]
This diff should be named Normal. Mostly because of the beat after spinners are very soon. Other than that there's nothing bother me I disagree, you can always stop spinning a bit earlier to get ready for the notes and i don't think this should be rename Normal just because of this.

[Normal]
A little tweak and this could easily become a Hard diff
00:00:091 (1) - Add finish at the start Done
00:00:091 (1) - The timing section here is unnecessary cause you can just lower the volume on the offset k removed timing section and lowered the volume on the offset (red timing point).
00:03:673 (1) - Whistle at the start? Done
00:05:464 (4) - Remove the whistle at the start Done
00:41:285 (7) - The only slider that use 1.5x speed, It's too unexpected. I suggest to use normal slider speed. Also try adding a clap at it too. Done, change volume to 45% so that it is like Insane.
00:49:568 (1) - I suggest to remove the anchor point in the middle so the slider will look better Done, adjusted spacing in this section

[Insane]
Quite an easy Insane Perhaps, tried my best to make it hard, since this was the first difficulty i've made. No tweaks at all except fixing all the spacing.
00:28:076 (1) ~ 00:37:479 (3) - Compare to your normal, this part still lack off hitsound. Using the same hitsound pattern as in Normal is ok k, added the same pattern from Normal
00:43:523 (5) ~ 00:48:896 (6) - ^ ^
01:17:329 (1) - Remove NC Done
01:42:628 (2,4) - Add whistle to these? Done
01:45:762 (3) - Finish at the start? Done
01:50:464 (1) - Add whistle Done
01:59:195 (5) - IMO it's play better if you use normal speed kk, done

That's all from me. About the vid if you're not sure about it, you can consult to MAT/BAT, but I'm sure they won't allow it too kk will try to ask them, main reason that i feel the video is ok is because a recently ranked beatmap have a video with some scenes which could be consider 18+ so i thought this should be ok as well.
Good Luck and Star

winber1
SPOILER

winber1 wrote:

02:00:091 (1) - if you want to follow that bell-like sound thing in the music, this should end at 02:05:837 (1) - (1/6 tick, just play it back at 25%). you should also silence it tho, or make it really soft. the spinner ends too loudly imo >_>. If not, you could just end it on the red tick too (like eldnl's diff). it doesn't really matter, but it just needs to be consistent. Ty, done. I've changed it to 50% volume and was about to update but noticed a new mod post :P

Insane

00:09:717 (8) - 1 grid to the right Aligned this with end of slider 3
00:29:531 (x) - add note? just to follow vocals a little more. Feels weird imo, so no.
00:33:113 (x) - ^ ^
01:21:471 (x) - ^ ^
01:22:702 (10) - new combo? Done
01:30:091 (x) - flows better if you add a note here imo. Nah, feel weird to follow instrument and vocal at the same time. Im following the vocal mainly for this part anyway. Will be weird if i start to change now.

Normal

00:02:105 (4) - delete claps (and the clap on the slider as whole) and put a whistle at 00:02:32? k done
00:36:359 (3,1,2,3) - this orientation could be a little confusing for newer players.(i know i would when i really sucked lol >_>. i probably would've tried clicking combo 2 instead of combo 1 and realized what an epic fail that was) hm, i say it's fine, but i'm up for interesting ideas
00:59:419 (1,2) - erm.. center this? Done
01:01:882 (2,3) - replace this with a 1/2 tick repeat slider? so that it follows vocals more Done, lol @ file comment
01:36:359 (5) - decrease length of slider by 1/2 tick ? Nah, it's fine
01:56:508 (9,1) - why the jump? woops 01:57:404 is suppose to be at 01:57:180. Adjusted the new combo and manually moved (10, previously 1) so that it looks better.

Nice map! :3

Star~~

Ty for stars and mods, Astom & eldnl will check their diffs later.
Katsuri
Astom's Easy

00:48:449 (4) - This slider is called kick slider because haves more than one repeat. I suggest you to remove this, because for an newbie is hard to see how much repeats the slider goes.

02:00:091 (1) - The end of this slider needs to be on 02:05:911. Unsnapped is not recommended.

No major problems, Good map.
eldnl

Zelos wrote:

eldnl's Hard:
00:03:673 (1,2) - stack the ends on top of each other perfectly please. Sure fixed
Your difficulties are always so pretty :D

Sallad4ever wrote:

[eldnl's Hard]
Delicious~
00:05:240 (3,1) - This jump is too sudden and doesn't fit very well That will never change !

winber1 wrote:


eldnl's


00:04:568 (2,3,1) - honestly, i would just space this normally. A jump here doesn't fit imo. NOO
00:42:180 (7) - sounds better to me if you delete this note (and rearrange spacing somehow. (this note just puts a random note with soft whistle in a place where the music doesn't really do anything :/ it also feels a little weird to me to play that note.) This note follow perfect the music for me :\
01:52:367 (3,4) - i don't like the stack that much, and how you coupled it with this jump 01:52:702 (4,1) - (it bothers me having a jump like that :/) Yes, you're right, but I don't know how I can change it, any suggestion? ;_;
01:59:867 (6) - unstack? Nah
Thanks ~

Download: Sakakibara Yui - Himitsujikake no apple (Short Ver.) (merchat7) [eldnL's Hard].osu
Topic Starter
merchat7
@Katsuri ty for suggestion and star, astom will check it later
nimi
Hey~
Only one little thing bugged me >_<

[Normal]
00:50:688 (2) - stack it correctly?

Ohwell. Nice mapset. Starr'd~
Topic Starter
merchat7

Wiinter wrote:

Hey~
Only one little thing bugged me >_<

[Normal]
00:50:688 (2) - stack it correctly? Ah ty, fixed

Ohwell. Nice mapset. Starr'd~
Ty for mod and star :D
wcx19911123
from my que
I love this song and map ;)

[General]
fine

[SB]
if you can make the title come out the same as the video , like the shining stars , it is awesome >w<

[Astom's Easy]
00:48:449 (4) - start at 00:48:673 and repeat 1 time less
awesome diff

[Normal]
00:28:076 (1) - circle at 00:28:076 and slider from 00:28:299 to 00:28:747 is better imo
00:31:658 (1) - ^
00:39:493 (2,3,4,5) - this is really confusing for newbie
00:56:508 (6,7) - slider first then circle is better
01:51:359 (3) - to 2 sliders is better , or it is hard to read when it end
01:56:060 (8,9,10) - kinda confusing 0.0
01:58:523 (2) - to 2 sliders

[eldnL's Hard]
AR+1 is better to me 0.0
00:05:240 (3) - x:256 y:200 , or it is a very confusing jump here

[Insane]
01:46:770 (3,4) - I suggest this to a slider , or it is kinda confusing
01:53:934 (4,5) - ^

nice map
Topic Starter
merchat7
wcx19911123
SPOILER

wcx19911123 wrote:

from my que
I love this song and map ;)

[General]
fine

[SB]
if you can make the title come out the same as the video , like the shining stars , it is awesome >w< Sorry, don't know how to do this, if someone wants to do it, feel free

[Normal]
00:28:076 (1) - circle at 00:28:076 and slider from 00:28:299 to 00:28:747 is better imo Done
00:31:658 (1) - ^ ^
00:39:493 (2,3,4,5) - this is really confusing for newbie Don't really know what to change, any suggestion?
00:56:508 (6,7) - slider first then circle is better Done
01:51:359 (3) - to 2 sliders is better , or it is hard to read when it end Nah it's fine, if the person is listening to the rhythm, he can definitely hear 4 beats, and the slider is pointing to the next note.
01:56:060 (8,9,10) - kinda confusing 0.0 Trying 4 ar now so that the note feel less clustered.
01:58:523 (2) - to 2 sliders Same reason as 01:51:359

[Insane]
01:46:770 (3,4) - I suggest this to a slider , or it is kinda confusing kk done, adjusted some stuff so that slider looks better
01:53:934 (4,5) - ^ ^

nice map

Thanks for star, kudo star and mod, astom & eldnl will check it later.
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