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HakuNoKaemi

Joined October 2009

HakuNoKaemi 2011-07-10T15:04:37+00:00

[General]
* Use Soft Hitsounds ( the Easy was quite a clapfest at the start ) ( Normal cover the song too much ), if you want to use Normal though, you could make hitsounds pattern more varying and funny

[Easy]
* Too many Claps
* Too Linear, use more curved slider shapes..., plus it pratically move up, down, left and right, so it feel really linear.
* Why you didn't map the rest?

[Normal]
* Linear, use some more curvy slider and patterns
* Try to add circles in the last part ( 01:45:762 and after ) in 01:46:882, 01:54:046 and 01:59:643.

[Hard]
* Linear, avoid so many boxy patterns and linear slider
* Why you didn't map the rest?

[Insane]
* avoid varying spacing so much without using graphical amusing patterns. Those sudden space variation are not good while playing, you spaced some notes the same quantity even if they were more distant (00:36:583 (5,1) - Avoid this things while mapping as i though it was following the drums ! and you even did it many many time)
* Maybe somewhat linear, but less then the others. Just use more curved patterns and sliders
01:02:553 (6) - Why ending in a Blue tick?
01:22:702 (10,11) - mirror (Ctrl + H) and rever selection (Ctrl + R ) 01:21:807 (7,8)

Good as first map. For now i won't star, but i will reinsert this in my queue and remod to see if it's star-desserving

wmfchris

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wmfchris 2011-07-10T15:35:16+00:00

[General]
- The audio lead-in in [Insane] is different from others. Please fix that.

General issues:

- I suggest you to use soft hitsound is most part of the song. At least turn down the volume in those normal part as the clap is far too loud.
- The spacing are bad. Try to use consistant spacing throughout a diff, use the spacing multiple on the right-top corner to check your spacing, and you can map by turning on the spacing snapping.

Try to fix these stuffs and feel free to ask for a recheck~

eldnl

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eldnl 2011-07-10T20:49:13+00:00

Edit.

Download: Sakakibara Yui - Himitsujikake no apple (merchat7) [eldnL].osu

Download: Sakakibara Yui - Himitsujikake no apple (merchat7) [eldnL's Hard].osu

Last edited by eldnl 2011-07-11T00:34:23+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

merchat7

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merchat7 2011-07-10T23:41:48+00:00

Raging Bull

SPOILER

General:
Errr. Can you find another video with a resolution of 640x480? I just don't like widescreen. orz video used is the one featured on the game's website, don't think there is a 4:3 version
Map the end for easy/normal/hard like insane. It's weird to have different starting points and different ending points for each difficulty. all done, waiting for easy to be finish

Easy: waiting for guest difficulty from eldnl
Start at the same place as other diff which is like 00:00:091 there.
00:28:076 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Errr. Seems rather boring as it's nearly the same combo over and over again. Try to remap here?
Map the end

Normal:
Seems okay.
Map the end Done

Hard: changed to eldnL's Hard
00:54:214 (3) - Offbeat slider.
Map the end.

Insane:
00:05:464 - Weird empty area. Map to the tune. k will look at this while fixing spacing
00:32:329 (4,5,6) - Space 5 correctly. It's the odd one out because it looks like you're suppose to click it after 4, but you actually have to wait one beat before you do. ^
01:00:314 (2) - Slider end is rather offbeat. Check it. Done
01:02:105 (5) - Make this slider end at white tick instead of blue. Sounds better. Done
01:02:553 (6) - Make this slider end at red tick. Done
01:05:911 (8) - NC? Done
01:12:852 (4) - Make slider end at white tick. Done
01:17:329 (6) - NC Done, made 01:31:658 NC as well

HakuNoKaemi

SPOILER

[General]
* Use Soft Hitsounds ( the Easy was quite a clapfest at the start ) ( Normal cover the song too much ), if you want to use Normal though, you could make hitsounds pattern more varying and funny k, done

[Easy] waiting for guest difficulty
* Too many Claps
* Too Linear, use more curved slider shapes..., plus it pratically move up, down, left and right, so it feel really linear.
* Why you didn't map the rest?

[Normal]
* Linear, use some more curvy slider and patterns k will try to remap again
* Try to add circles in the last part ( 01:45:762 and after ) in 01:46:882, 01:54:046 and 01:59:643. added circles, 01:59:643, circle here doesn't feel right (the rhythm here is following the two final strong beats

[Hard] This has been changed to eldnL's Hard
* Linear, avoid so many boxy patterns and linear slider
* Why you didn't map the rest?

[Insane]
* avoid varying spacing so much without using graphical amusing patterns. Those sudden space variation are not good while playing, you spaced some notes the same quantity even if they were more distant (00:36:583 (5,1) - Avoid this things while mapping as i though it was following the drums ! and you even did it many many time) i will try to go through it with distant snapping
* Maybe somewhat linear, but less then the others. Just use more curved patterns and sliders Will look through it
01:02:553 (6) - Why ending in a Blue tick? Fixed
01:22:702 (10,11) - mirror (Ctrl + H) and rever selection (Ctrl + R ) 01:21:807 (7,8) kept the same since i'm going to try to fix spacing

wmfchris

SPOILER

[General]
- The audio lead-in in [Insane] is different from others. Please fix that. Hm? I presume you're talking about the audio lead-in in song setup > audio > lead-in. If so, all difficulties have 3 sec lead-in.

General issues:

- I suggest you to use soft hitsound is most part of the song. At least turn down the volume in those normal part as the clap is far too loud. Fixed in all, but easy. Waiting for guest difficulty on easy.
- The spacing are bad. Try to use consistant spacing throughout a diff, use the spacing multiple on the right-top corner to check your spacing, and you can map by turning on the spacing snapping. i presume you're talking about Insane, will try to fix it.

Try to fix these stuffs and feel free to ask for a recheck~ k

All suggestions were useful so kudosu will be given to all mentioned above. eldnl gets a kudosu for irc modding (sliders suggestion, tips on how to map, etc.) and Hard guest difficulty.

wmfchris

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wmfchris 2011-07-11T07:03:33+00:00

I'm sorry for my mistake.
I think it has different preview time, don't kd this post.

merchat7

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merchat7 2011-07-11T20:31:15+00:00

np

Astom

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Astom 2011-07-14T20:02:03+00:00

As eldnl req. I made a easy diff. for you.
http://puu.sh/3l1A

~

eldnl

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eldnl 2011-07-14T21:55:04+00:00

Astom wrote:
As eldnl req. I made a easy diff. for you.
http://puu.sh/3l1A

~

Thank you Astom <3

merchat7

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merchat7 2011-07-15T07:00:31+00:00

Astom wrote:
As eldnl req. I made a easy diff. for you.
http://puu.sh/3l1A

~

Thanks for the guest diff.

kanpakyin

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kanpakyin 2011-07-16T17:04:58+00:00

Yo modding time!

[General]

Disable "Letterbox during breaks"
Add these thing to tag: hentai game eroge yuri (Follow the Ranked version)
Probably try offset :101? (+10),it seems better for me. (btw,please check the mod before you check this).
Consider a silent slider(sliderslide.wav)?Some places are little bit noisy during gameplay.

[Astom's Easy]

00:00:091(1)- IMO,a whistle is better than a finish,so change to whistle if you want.
00:05:016(3) -A little rhythm suggestion here: add a reverse on (3)- then add a note at 00:06:359- it can fit the music better.
00:51:135(3)- I know you're following the vocal.however,I really don't recommend a slider like this for a difficulty of this caliber. It's gonna be confusing to the new players as to when it's going to end.
01:11:061(4)- ^ Same,Probably remove a reverse.
01:39:717(3)- I feel extremely weird since you add a clap here :/ that's quite bad IMO,I suggest you put the clap at 01:40:165- and add a whistle at 01:39:717- ,Please ignore this if you don't like my method.

[Normal]

00:41:285(x)- Probably add a slider here?You might need to consistent the spacing after fixing.
probably like this?
00:45:986(1)- No please,this slider is coverd by (4)- and the skin element.Please don't make this in Normal difficulty.
Something you can see it
00:57:404(x)- Please remove this break and map something here,you should at lease remove thart break because No point adding break there when the last part has heavier HP rape.
01:00:091(3.4)- Please unstack these,it's feel bad and ugly during gameplay.Also it may make confused to newbie.
01:58:523(3)- Consider remove the clap on this slider?Seems a bit weird and noisy.

[eldnL's Hard]

00:27:404(2)- Add a whistle on this slider?to fit the music.
01:19:792(6)- Wait,please add a new combo here to consistent the previous combo and the next combo!
01:34:120(6)- ^ Same thing.
01:44:195(1.2.3)- Yeah,my suggestion only!IMO,it would be more fun if you increase the spaing,that's mean you make a small jump here but make sure it's fair to a Hard difficulty.
01:57:180(1)- I don't like this slider personally,well,maybe different taste only,feel free to keep it or not.
01:59:867(x)- Hum,Here has a accent point,so I think you shouldn't make a spinner to ignore this accent,please!add a note here with a finish hitsound,then move the spinner to 01:57:979.I feel better with that.

[Insane]

The arrangement is really chaos!Please think twice before arrange next time!
00:14:419(x)- IMO,you should map this break!Insane is for expert,so the expert should have a large stamina to play the whole song without any break!(Since this song/map is not too long).
00:25:837(x)- Wait,please.Why you didn't map this part?I think you can stuff some notes and sliders on it.Now is quite empty!
00:28:076(1-10)- Why this combo is longer than others?So,please consistent the combo!If I were you,I'll add a new combo at (6)-
00:41:620(x),00:41:956(x)- Please add a note on these places to keep the play flow!You may hear some "ta" sound on these please,so please add a note on it and add a whistle on it as well!
00:42:404(1-12)- Same as 00:28:076!Please consistent the new combo!
00:47:105(5)- Confused Spacing!Why you reduced the spacing suddenly?It totally broken the flow,also feel bad and weird during gameplay!Fix it please!
00:48:225(4)- ^ Same!
01:02:553(6)- Weird slider,consider change it?However it's depands on you.
01:21:135(5.6.7.8)- Really bad during gameplay,at least it doesn't fit a "jump",so you should consistent the spacing here!
01:27:628(7)- Add a new combo here to cinsistent the combo length.
01:35:911(6)- ^ Same!
01:45:538(1~end)- Please add more hitsound please!Player will feel humdrum and boring with few hitsound on few notes or slider!Whistle is a good hitsound,please make good use on it!

This difficulty need more improvement before getting Rank.Some spacing dproblem you need to fix it
Sorry for long mod.

Shiki

271 posts

Joined April 2010

Shiki 2011-07-18T09:16:39+00:00

Hi~ Sorry for the delay ;_;
As requested, I don't mod easy diff.

The title should be Himitsujikake no Apple

[Normal]
00:35:688 (2) - Whistle at its end?
00:36:359 (3) - ^
00:40:613 (5) - Whistle here?
01:05:016 (4,5) - Stack them perfectly.
01:47:105 (4) - Add whistle?
01:54:269 (4) - ^

[Hard]
00:05:464 (1) - Remove the new combo? The jump is hard to read with the new combo.
00:56:732 (3) - Add whistle here?
01:07:591 (6) - ^

[Insane]
There are too many spacing changes, if possible, please rearrange the map with 1.0x spacing and don't jump randomly.
00:24:941 (1) - Delete the cirlce please. It doesn't fit the music.
00:58:299 (3) - New combo here because the spacing changes.
00:59:419 (7) - ^
01:04:792 (4) - Remvoe new combo, for consistency.
01:17:329 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 2.2x 0.8x 2.0x spacings appear in same combo ;_;
01:22:702 (10,11) - Why do you reduce the spacing suddenly?
01:23:598 (1,...,4) - ^?
01:26:508 (5,6) - The spacing increases suddenly...
01:42:404 (5) - New combo here?
The diff needs a large number of changes imo.

When you fix the spacing problems I will shoot a star

Last edited by Shiki 2011-07-20T05:06:36+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

merchat7

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merchat7 2011-07-18T19:32:01+00:00

Still working on insane, progress ~60% (need to work on 1:15:986 > end). All parts before this should have consistent spacing (0.8x before the break 1.0x after the break) with exception of jumps, a few sliders and one part - look at AI mod). The final 40% may take a while as some parts may require complete remapping.

Sorry for how long this is taking, didn't expect to have to remap some parts in Insane. Will look at above mods later.

eldnl

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eldnl 2011-07-19T00:57:54+00:00

kanpakyin wrote:
[eldnL's Hard]
00:27:404(2)- Add a whistle on this slider?to fit the music. No
01:19:792(6)- Wait,please add a new combo here to consistent the previous combo and the next combo! Fixed
01:34:120(6)- ^ Same thing. Fixed
01:44:195(1.2.3)- Yeah,my suggestion only!IMO,it would be more fun if you increase the spaing,that's mean you make a small jump here but make sure it's fair to a Hard difficulty. Ok
01:57:180(1)- I don't like this slider personally,well,maybe different taste only,feel free to keep it or not. It's fine.
01:59:867(x)- Hum,Here has a accent point,so I think you shouldn't make a spinner to ignore this accent,please!add a note here with a finish hitsound,then move the spinner to 01:57:979.I feel better with that. I add the note and remove the spin. Is very long.

Shiki wrote:
[Hard]
00:05:464 (1) - Remove the new combo? The jump is hard to read with the new combo. No
00:56:732 (3) - Add whistle here? Sure
01:07:591 (6) - ^ ^

Thanks guys ~
merchat give then kodosu.

Download: Sakakibara Yui - Himitsujikake no apple (merchat7) [eldnL's Hard].osu

merchat7

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merchat7 2011-07-20T02:51:29+00:00

kanpakyin

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kanpakyin wrote:
[General]
Disable "Letterbox during breaks" Done
Add these thing to tag: hentai game eroge yuri (Follow the Ranked version) Done
Probably try offset :101? (+10),it seems better for me. (btw,please check the mod before you check this). Seem ok to me, will change if more people suggest this
Consider a silent slider(sliderslide.wav)?Some places are little bit noisy during gameplay.Done, not sure if it works.
[Normal]
00:41:285(x)- Probably add a slider here?You might need to consistent the spacing after fixing. Done, may need some adjustment
<span>
probably like this?
[img]<a%20href="http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/114159[/img]
">http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/114159[/img][/box]</a></span>
00:45:986(1)- No please,this slider is coverd by (4)- and the skin element.Please don't make this in Normal difficulty. I presume you mean this cover the end of slider 1? I just rotate slider 4 so u can see the end of slider 1, a little bit.
<span>
Something you can see it
[img]<a%20href="http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/114161[/img]
">http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/114161[/img][/box]</a></span>
00:57:404(x)- Please remove this break and map something here,you should at lease remove thart break because No point adding break there when the last part has heavier HP rape. Added a spinner like in hard
01:00:091(3.4)- Please unstack these,it's feel bad and ugly during gameplay.Also it may make confused to newbie. Done
01:58:523(3)- Consider remove the clap on this slider?Seems a bit weird and noisy. Done
[Insane] Note: Wasn't done fixing spacing yet.
The arrangement is really chaos!Please think twice before arrange next time!
00:14:419(x)- IMO,you should map this break!Insane is for expert,so the expert should have a large stamina to play the whole song without any break!(Since this song/map is not too long). No, I'm keeping breaks consistence across all diffs.
00:25:837(x)- Wait,please.Why you didn't map this part?I think you can stuff some notes and sliders on it.Now is quite empty! Done
00:28:076(1-10)- Why this combo is longer than others?So,please consistent the combo!If I were you,I'll add a new combo at (6)- Done
00:41:620(x),00:41:956(x)- Please add a note on these places to keep the play flow!You may hear some "ta" sound on these please,so please add a note on it and add a whistle on it as well! Done, but no whistle, sound betters imo.
00:42:404(1-12)- Same as 00:28:076!Please consistent the new combo! Done
00:47:105(5)- Confused Spacing!Why you reduced the spacing suddenly?It totally broken the flow,also feel bad and weird during gameplay!Fix it please! Used distant snapping should be fixed
00:48:225(4)- ^ Same! ^
01:02:553(6)- Weird slider,consider change it?However it's depands on you. Done
01:21:135(5.6.7.8)- Really bad during gameplay,at least it doesn't fit a "jump",so you should consistent the spacing here! Done
01:27:628(7)- Add a new combo here to cinsistent the combo length. Done
01:35:911(6)- ^ Same! Done
01:45:538(1~end)- Please add more hitsound please!Player will feel humdrum and boring with few hitsound on few notes or slider!Whistle is a good hitsound,please make good use on it! Done

Shiki

SPOILER

Shiki wrote:
Hi~ Sorry for the delay ;_;
As requested, I don't mod easy diff.

The title should be Himitsujikake no Apple The ranked version doesn't capitalize apple so no.

[Normal]
00:35:688 (2) - Whistle at its end? Done
00:36:359 (3) - ^ ^
00:40:613 (5) - Whistle here? Done
01:05:016 (4,5) - Stack them perfectly. They are? Checked this in grid 4.
01:47:105 (4) - Add whistle? Done
01:54:269 (4) - ^ ^

[Insane] Note: Wasn't done fixing spacing yet.
There are too many spacing changes, if possible, please rearrange the map with 1.0x spacing and don't jump randomly. k, used 0.8x and 1.0x spacing throughout most of the map.
00:24:941 (1) - Delete the cirlce please. It doesn't fit the music. Done
00:58:299 (3) - New combo here because the spacing changes. Done
00:59:419 (7) - ^ ^
01:04:792 (4) - Remvoe new combo, for consistency. Done
01:17:329 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 2.2x 0.8x 2.0x spacings appear in same combo ;_; Refer to note, fixed
01:22:702 (10,11) - Why do you reduce the spacing suddenly? ^
01:23:598 (1,...,4) - ^? ^
01:26:508 (5,6) - The spacing increases suddenly... ^
01:42:404 (5) - New combo here? Done
The diff needs a large number of changes imo.

When you fix the spacing problems I will shoot a star

Thanks for mods!

Astom

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Astom 2011-07-20T06:46:15+00:00

kanpakyin wrote:
[Astom's Easy]
00:00:091(1)- IMO,a whistle is better than a finish,so change to whistle if you want. no
00:05:016(3) -A little rhythm suggestion here: add a reverse on (3)- then add a note at 00:06:359- it can fit the music better. ok
00:51:135(3)- I know you're following the vocal.however,I really don't recommend a slider like this for a difficulty of this caliber. It's gonna be confusing to the new players as to when it's going to end. ok
01:11:061(4)- ^ Same,Probably remove a reverse. ok
01:39:717(3)- I feel extremely weird since you add a clap here :/ that's quite bad IMO,I suggest you put the clap at 01:40:165- and add a whistle at 01:39:717- ,Please ignore this if you don't like my method. mm no

Download: Sakakibara Yui - Himitsujikake no apple (merchat7) [Astom's Easy].osu

Ekaru

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Ekaru 2011-07-21T02:52:13+00:00

Insane:

Pretty fun! However, make more of your sliders curve to make the map play better.

Ex. 00:28:747 (4,5) - These two sliders are begging to be curved in opposite directions. Try it.

00:43:076 (4,5) - These two are begging to be curved in a way that makes them sorta like one big curve.

These aren't the only instances were curving the sliders can help, so use your best judgment.

Hard:

00:05:240 (3,1) - EEEEEEEH? This giant jump came out of nowhere.
00:05:240 (3,1) - ^
01:07:255 (5,6,7) - Do a "Reverse Selection" on these. This will eliminate the giant jump between (7) and (1) while playing exactly the same.

Good otherwise.

Normal:

Good, good.

Easy:

01:56:061 (2,3,4) - (2) obscures (4)'s slider track for a bit. This confused me.

Aside from that, great job! Have both a regular star and a kudosu star!

merchat7

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merchat7 2011-07-21T04:19:46+00:00

Ekaru wrote:
Insane:

Pretty fun! However, make more of your sliders curve to make the map play better.

Ex. 00:28:747 (4,5) - These two sliders are begging to be curved in opposite directions. Try it. Hmm, i think i did what you mean so Done

00:43:076 (4,5) - These two are begging to be curved in a way that makes them sorta like one big curve. Done

These aren't the only instances were curving the sliders can help, so use your best judgment. Added a slight curve to most sliders, beatmap feel better but some slider may need a little bit more tweaking.

Will ask Astom and eldnl to check their diff. later. Thanks for the stars!

eldnl

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eldnl 2011-07-21T04:46:44+00:00

Ekaru wrote:
Hard:

00:05:240 (3,1) - EEEEEEEH? This giant jump came out of nowhere. It's fine for me
00:05:240 (3,1) - ^ ^ xD
01:07:255 (5,6,7) - Do a "Reverse Selection" on these. This will eliminate the giant jump between (7) and (1) while playing exactly the same. Sure, fixed.

Good otherwise.

Merchat you can do it please?
Just use flip horizontally in (5,6,7).
Only that.

Thanks ~

merchat7

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merchat7 2011-07-21T04:57:44+00:00

k done

Vicho

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Vicho 2011-07-21T09:45:20+00:00

The video is unrankeable :/

Astom

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Astom 2011-07-21T10:17:38+00:00

Ekaru wrote:
Easy:

01:56:061 (2,3,4) - (2) obscures (4)'s slider track for a bit. This confused me. I don't see any problem with that so no changes

Vicho-kun wrote:
The video is unrankeable :/ Help with your censored ver.?

merchat7

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merchat7 2011-07-21T10:38:19+00:00

I assume you mean that it contains 18+ content which breaks one of the Official Ranking Submission Criteria. However, at the moment,, you can break those rule in special cases since they are all just guidelines. The (Not Yet) Official Ranking Submission Rules and Guidelines is being discussed here viewtopic.php?f=3&t=56528&st=0&sk=t&sd=a. Feel free to read through it (part about video and last page recommended). Also http://osu.ppy.sh/s/32898 have a uncensored video as well and this was recently ranked.

I'll add a 18+ warning through just incase. Thanks for the star!

spboxer3

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spboxer3 2011-07-21T13:50:50+00:00

[Astom's Easy]
00:46:658 (1) - up 1 grid(size 4) ?
01:34:120 (1) - let it stack in 01:31:658 (1) - ?

[Normal]
00:41:285 (7) - why here has X1.5 this Normal I think you doesn't need it!
00:49:568 (1,2) - stack?
01:05:016 (4,5) - ^

[eldnL's Hard]
All good

[Insane]
00:44:643 (4) - left and up 1 grid(size 3)?
01:11:061 - remove finish?
01:25:837 (4) - stange rhythm?
01:44:195 (1,2,3) - www not pretty triangle...(fix?)

star~!

wmfchris

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wmfchris 2011-07-21T16:10:02+00:00

[General]
- The vid is quite ero and it should be unrankable.
- SB, make it disappear gradually instead of suddenly.
- Try to put a spinner after it ends (02:00:091)

[Insane]
00:01:434 (4) - +whistle?
00:05:016 (3) - whistle at the first tick only
00:10:837 (1) - place at (400,120)
00:32:105 (3,4) - right 1 grid, (4) whistle
00:34:792 (5) - sounds odd, try to place a single note here, then a 1/2 slider 1 beat after this.
00:50:016 (3,4,5) - try to make them in a better way, the spacing can be tweeked a bit in harder diff.
00:56:956 (3,4) - left 1 grid
00:59:419 (1,2) - clap
01:07:255 (4,5) - whistle
01:26:173 (4) - tweek the direction of slider and extend this by 1/4 beat
01:59:867 (6) - I prefer softer sound.

placement of claps in the kiai time is pretty good for me, just try to be more consistent in placing whistle. Also in insane the rhythm maybe a bit empty between two phrases, and more creation on the rhythm maybe needed.

[Hard]
01:59:867 (5) - I prefer softer sound.

really nice.

[Normal]
OD+1? ._.
00:00:091 (1) - try this code

128,64,91,2,0,B|164:96|164:96|256:96,1,140

that (1,3) completely overlaps.
01:05:016 (4,5) - stack properly
01:22:926 (5) - stack on the slider properly
01:59:867 (4) - ._. ~

Astom's diff would be as good as usual.

Normal -> the placement of hitsound is much better than insane ._____. Just one more problem: try to stack things properly, use more precise tools like grid level 4 or off the grid snap to stack or tweek the sliders that objects are stacks on the same pixels.

Insane -> may need more mods especially on hitsounds, some doubts on new combo as well? : /

merchat7

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Topic Starter

merchat7 2011-07-21T21:35:41+00:00

spboxer3

SPOILER

spboxer3 wrote:
[Normal]
00:41:285 (7) - why here has X1.5 this Normal I think you doesn't need it! Just something to make it more interesting and it feels better imo
00:49:568 (1,2) - stack? already stacked? and i think it's stacked perfectly
01:05:016 (4,5) - ^ No, keeping consistency with similar combos in this diff. eg. 00:31:658 (1,2,3,4)

[Insane]
00:44:643 (4) - left and up 1 grid(size 3)? Done
01:11:061 - remove finish? K
01:25:837 (4) - stange rhythm? fine to me, but may change if you got some ideas
01:44:195 (1,2,3) - www not pretty triangle...(fix?) Fixed, move (2) one grid right in grid 3

wmfchris

SPOILER

wmfchris wrote:
[General]
- The vid is quite ero and it should be unrankable. Read post I wrote above on this page
- SB, make it disappear gradually instead of suddenly. Intend to let it disappear at the same time as the title, but suggestion followed
- Try to put a spinner after it ends (02:00:091) Need to discuss with Astom & eldnl since it would be weird if only Normal and Insane have a spinner

[Insane]
00:01:434 (4) - +whistle? Done
00:05:016 (3) - whistle at the first tick only Done
00:10:837 (1) - place at (400,120) Done
00:32:105 (3,4) - right 1 grid, (4) whistle Did not specify which size grid, used grid size 4 since 3 feel too much, whistle added
00:34:792 (5) - sounds odd, try to place a single note here, then a 1/2 slider 1 beat after this. Done, rearranged notes to new spacing
00:50:016 (3,4,5) - try to make them in a better way, the spacing can be tweeked a bit in harder diff. Hm, i like how it is now, moved (4,5,6,7) 1 grid left, 1 grid up in grid 3 and adjusted spacing accordingly
00:56:956 (3,4) - left 1 grid Done in grid 4 for same reason as 00:32:105
00:59:419 (1,2) - clap Done
01:07:255 (4,5) - whistle Done
01:26:173 (4) - tweek the direction of slider and extend this by 1/4 beat Done
01:59:867 (6) - I prefer softer sound. Used eldnL's Hard as reference so will change if he changes

placement of claps in the kiai time is pretty good for me, just try to be more consistent in placing whistle. Also in insane the rhythm maybe a bit empty between two phrases, and more creation on the rhythm maybe needed. I'm up for suggestions

[Normal]
OD+1? ._. Done
00:00:091 (1) - try this code
128,64,91,2,0,B|164:96|164:96|256:96,1,140
that (1,3) completely overlaps. Fixed, i think
01:05:016 (4,5) - stack properly Stack as best as i could (no grid snap manually)
01:22:926 (5) - stack on the slider properly ^
01:59:867 (4) - ._. ~ ??

Normal -> the placement of hitsound is much better than insane ._____. Just one more problem: try to stack things properly, use more precise tools like grid level 4 or off the grid snap to stack or tweek the sliders that objects are stacks on the same pixels. Fixed the things you mentioned in your mod

Insane -> may need more mods especially on hitsounds, some doubts on new combo as well? : / Hmm, don't see any big issues with the new combos. Hitsound is probably uninteresting, but there isn't anything that is distracting either. Accepting suggestions.

Thanks for mods! Will ask Astom and eldnl to check their diff. later.

Keyboard_old

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Keyboard_old 2011-07-22T02:19:10+00:00

Normal:
00:09:270 (3) - Extend to 00:09:829
00:45:986 (1) - Slider can be extended to 00:46:770
00:48:225 (3) - Change the circle to a slider and make it end 00:48:449
01:06:583 (8) - End it at 01:07:367
01:20:464 (2) - Change to a slider that ends at 01:20:911

Insane:
00:09:717 (8) - Turn the circle into a slider that ends at 00:10:389
00:37:479 (3) - Extend to 00:38:150 and then remove circle
01:07:926 (6) - Change it to a slider that ends at 01:08:598
01:29:419 (3) - Can add a 'finish'

That's all I have to say, it was pretty good!

merchat7

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Topic Starter

merchat7 2011-07-22T05:35:40+00:00

Keyboard wrote:
Normal:
00:09:270 (3) - Extend to 00:09:829 Hitsound sound wrong so no
00:45:986 (1) - Slider can be extended to 00:46:770 No since, this will be the only hit object to start/end on a blue tick.
00:48:225 (3) - Change the circle to a slider and make it end 00:48:449 Keeping consistency with the past combo so no.
01:06:583 (8) - End it at 01:07:367 Blue tick so no.
01:20:464 (2) - Change to a slider that ends at 01:20:911 Done

Insane:
00:09:717 (8) - Turn the circle into a slider that ends at 00:10:389 Done, long slider so had to make some weird shape, may remove if someone suggest to do so
00:37:479 (3) - Extend to 00:38:150 and then remove circle Circle feel better so no
01:07:926 (6) - Change it to a slider that ends at 01:08:598 Long slider again, used the same shape as the slider in 00:09:717
01:29:419 (3) - Can add a 'finish' Already is a finish here

Thanks for mod

HakuNoKaemi

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Joined October 2009

HakuNoKaemi 2011-07-22T15:20:43+00:00

[General]

- The vid is quite ero and it should be unrankable.

There are only a few scenes plus it could be considered 16+ only in one point, because the rest are cutted. So it isn't unrankable.

[Astom's Easy]
00:05:016 (3) - 1 Less repeat seems better ( were following voice... so.. )

[Normal]
00:03:673 (1) - a 1/1 repeat slider feel better Example
00:07:255 (1) - One less repeat and add 00:08:598 (2) -
00:10:837 (5,6,7) - Soft Hitsound on those
00:39:493 (2) - Manually Stack or Make Stack Leniency much lower and manually stack 00:40:389 (4,5) - (example, Press Shift + Ctrl while doing this)
00:43:523 (2) - Blanket for 00:44:643 (3) - Like this
00:47:105 (2) - Same thing here
01:05:911 (6,7) - Place them like this
01:18:673 (5) - Make it an Arch? it seems to flow better Example
01:19:792 (6,7,8) - Move and reshape like [url=http://puu.sh/3zkt]this[/url]?

[eldnL's Hard]
00:09:493 (x) - Add a Note
00:09:717 (x) - Substitute it with a slider ( this seems good )
00:11:285 (1,2,3,4) - Soft Hitsound are better here
00:41:285 (6) - Make it more similiar to a blanket?

[Insane]
00:27:516 (3) - 2 grid up or down(like 00:25:389 (2,3,4) - )
00:30:314 (4) - Blanket 00:30:091 (3) - ( refer to image of the next suggestion )
00:30:762 (5) - like this
00:35:016 (6) - You're stopping after Vocal end... so delete this note?
00:48:001 (3,4) - don't like the overlap
01:07:926 (6) - Use a different shape like Blanket? Blanket with correct spacing?
01:46:658 (2) - 2 grid down ( or up )
01:47:889 (2) - 2 grid up ( or down )
01:49:008 (2) - 2 grid down ( or up )
01:49:568 (5) - stack under the position 01:49:008 (2) - have now
01:50:799 (3) - 2 grid right ( or left )
01:53:822 (3) - ^
01:55:053 (3) - 2 grid left ( or right )
01:56:173 (2) - 2 grid up ( or down )
01:56:844 (6) - 2 grid down ( or up )

Most were on graphic side, so... i can STAR!

eldnl

Former osu!catch Champion: 2013

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eldnl 2011-07-22T21:23:47+00:00

HakuNoKaemi wrote:
[eldnL's Hard]
00:09:493 (x) - Add a Note Nop
00:09:717 (x) - Substitute it with a slider ( this seems good ) Nop
00:11:285 (1,2,3,4) - Soft Hitsound are better here Nop
00:41:285 (6) - Make it more similiar to a blanket? Okay

Thanks ~

Download: Sakakibara Yui - Himitsujikake no apple (merchat7) [eldnL's Hard].osu

Roddie

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Roddie 2011-07-22T21:38:07+00:00

Hey.

~~Oh, Look. I got to mod the same song again.~~

Oh, one thing I should say. Sorry, man but you're not going to get your map ranked because some parts of the video is a bit too much, you know? Like this one for example. By the way, I've checked osuplayer111's map that contains the same video and he made the right move of censoring some parts of the video. You should probably do the same.

General

If you're going to have a hitcircle.png in your map's folder, you got to have a hitcircleoverlay.png and a approachcircle .png.
If you have a cursor.png in your map's folder, you got to have a cursortrail.png.
Insane has a different preview point than eldnL's Hard, Normal and Astom's Easy.
Maybe a lead-in time of 2 seconds is better than 3 seconds.

Astom's Easy

01:48:896 (2)-Add a finish on the end?

Normal

Hmm... Maybe decrease both the Overall Difficulty and Approach Rate by one tick?
00:10:389 (x)-Add a note here? Plus, add a clap as well?
00:10:837 (5)-Put a new combo here?
00:28:076 (1)-Add a finish on the end.
00:42:404 (1)-^
00:53:374 (1)-^
00:55:389 (4)-Add a finish on the beginning.
01:00:986 (5)-Add a finish on the beginning. And put a new combo here?
01:09:046 (2)-Add a finish on the beginning.
01:26:732 (6)-^
01:49:344 (9)-Put a new combo here?
01:54:493 (5)-Add a finish?

eldnL's Hard

01:45:314 (x)-It feels like there should be a note here.... and a clap maybe?

Insane

00:26:285 (6)-Add a finish on the end?
00:53:598 (2)-^
00:57:180 (4)-Add a finish.
01:16:882 (5)-^
01:31:210 (5)-^
01:52:702 (6)-I think it would be better if you remove the finish from the beginning and add a finish on the end...

Good luck.

And here's a star.

Edit: Fixing a few grammar mistakes.

Last edited by Roddie 2011-07-22T21:44:12+00:00, edited 3 times in total.

Astom

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Astom 2011-07-22T21:39:08+00:00

spboxer3 wrote:
[Astom's Easy]
00:46:658 (1) - up 1 grid(size 4) ? ._. no
01:34:120 (1) - let it stack in 01:31:658 (1) - ? no

HakuNoKaemi wrote:
[Astom's Easy]
00:05:016 (3) - 1 Less repeat seems better ( were following voice... so.. ) no

wmfchris wrote:
Astom's diff would be as good as usual. xD thx

Roddie wrote:
01:48:896 (2)-Add a finish on the end? ok

merchat7

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Topic Starter

merchat7 2011-07-22T23:59:17+00:00

HakuNoKaemi

SPOILER

HakuNoKaemi wrote:
[Normal]
00:03:673 (1) - a 1/1 repeat slider feel better Example Done
00:07:255 (1) - One less repeat and add 00:08:598 (2) - Done
00:10:837 (5,6,7) - Soft Hitsound on those Done
00:39:493 (2) - Manually Stack or Make Stack Leniency much lower and manually stack 00:40:389 (4,5) - (example, Press Shift + Ctrl while doing this) Not really sure if i fixed since it already look perfectly stacked to me. Moved a little bit with grid and distant snap turn off.
00:43:523 (2) - Blanket for 00:44:643 (3) - Like this Tried my best to copy your slider, done
00:47:105 (2) - Same thing here ^
01:05:911 (6,7) - Place them like this Done
01:18:673 (5) - Make it an Arch? it seems to flow better Example Again, tried my best to copy your slider
01:19:792 (6,7,8) - Move and reshape like this? k Done

[Insane]
00:27:516 (3) - 2 grid up or down(like 00:25:389 (2,3,4) - ) Done
00:30:314 (4) - Blanket 00:30:091 (3) - ( refer to image of the next suggestion ) Done
00:30:762 (5) - like this ^
00:35:016 (6) - You're stopping after Vocal end... so delete this note? Weird, why was that slider there in the first place, but i'll keep it to keep with the "flow"
00:48:001 (3,4) - don't like the overlap Feels a little weird, but don't have any other ideas.
01:07:926 (6) - Use a different shape like Blanket? Blanket with correct spacing? Done
01:46:658 (2) - 2 grid down ( or up ) Prefer 1 grid. Down
01:47:889 (2) - 2 grid up ( or down ) ^ up
01:49:008 (2) - 2 grid down ( or up ) ^ down
01:49:568 (5) - stack under the position 01:49:008 (2) - have now Done
01:50:799 (3) - 2 grid right ( or left ) ^ right
01:53:822 (3) - ^ ^ Right
01:55:053 (3) - 2 grid left ( or right ) ^ left
01:56:173 (2) - 2 grid up ( or down ) ^ up
01:56:844 (6) - 2 grid down ( or up ) ^ down

Most were on graphic side, so... i can STAR!

Roddie

SPOILER

Roddie wrote:
General
If you're going to have a hitcircle.png in your map's folder, you got to have a hitcircleoverlay.png and a approachcircle .png. Deleted since it was simply a more white hitcircle.png
If you have a cursor.png in your map's folder, you got to have a cursortrail.png. Done, add the one from the templateskin
Insane has a different preview point than eldnL's Hard, Normal and Astom's Easy. took me a while to find out how to check what the preview point were for the other difficulties. Fixed
Maybe a lead-in time of 2 seconds is better than 3 seconds.Done

Normal
Hmm... Maybe decrease both the Overall Difficulty and Approach Rate by one tick? Done
00:10:389 (x)-Add a note here? Plus, add a clap as well? Tried it, feels odd so no
00:10:837 (5)-Put a new combo here? Done
00:28:076 (1)-Add a finish on the end. Done
00:42:404 (1)-^ ^
00:53:374 (1)-^ ^
00:55:389 (4)-Add a finish on the beginning. Done
01:00:986 (5)-Add a finish on the beginning. And put a new combo here? Done
01:09:046 (2)-Add a finish on the beginning. Done
01:26:732 (6)-^ ^
01:49:344 (9)-Put a new combo here? would be odd for this to be the only 1 combo
01:54:493 (5)-Add a finish? Done

Insane
00:26:285 (6)-Add a finish on the end? Done
00:53:598 (2)-^ ^
00:57:180 (4)-Add a finish. Done
01:16:882 (5)-^ ^
01:31:210 (5)-^ ^
01:52:702 (6)-I think it would be better if you remove the finish from the beginning and add a finish on the end... Done

Good luck. And here's a star.

Regarding video...

merchat7 wrote:
I assume you mean that it contains 18+ content which breaks one of the Official Ranking Submission Criteria. However, at the moment,, you can break those rule in special cases since they are all just guidelines. I'll leave it for BAT to decide. The (Not Yet) Official Ranking Submission Rules and Guidelines is being discussed here viewtopic.php?f=3&t=56528&st=0&sk=t&sd=a. Feel free to read through it (part about video and last page recommended). Also http://osu.ppy.sh/s/32898 have a uncensored video as well and this was recently ranked. There are a few scene which is definitely not suitable for PG 12.

And about http://puu.sh/3zUU , I'd say this is already censored somewhat (usage of soap to cover the main parts). There isn't any straight forward hentai stuff in the video. I'm quite surprised osuplayer censored the video. If you want to see a video that should definitely be censored, check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2c_MwFVeko. Coincidentally there is a censored version uploaded to youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pGGuHNF_Co. Note i may map this song one day since i like song by Katakiri Rekka So there's my reason for not censoring.

Thanks for stars and mods.

indyinyou

887 posts

Joined June 2009

indyinyou 2011-07-24T08:21:16+00:00

[Hard]
00:42:180 : move to 00:42:404 and add fin
01:40:837 : fin

[insane

00:11:508 : add note
00:41:620 : clap volum 40 ~ 45 %
00:41:956 : ^
00:43:076 : fin

good map star ~

merchat7

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Topic Starter

merchat7 2011-07-24T10:36:05+00:00

indyinyou wrote:
[Hard] Will ask eldnl to check his diff. later.
00:42:180 : move to 00:42:404 and add fin
01:40:837 : fin

[insane]

00:11:508 : add note No, doesn't feel right for me.
00:41:620 : clap volum 40 ~ 45 % You mean, lower the volume for this section? The clap is part of the mp3. If so, done.
00:41:956 : ^ ^
00:43:076 : fin Done

good map star ~

Ty for mod and star

Snowy Dream

2,195 posts

Joined September 2009

Snowy Dream 2011-07-24T14:59:39+00:00

[Astom's Easy]
01:17:329 (x) - add a note

[eldnL's Hard]
02:00:091 (1) - try to end at 02:05:799

[Insane]
00:48:001 (3,4) - looks not very nice
01:43:523 (6,7) - (6)move to (x:48 y:256),then add a note at 01:43:635, stack [New](8) behind (6,[New]7)
------------------------------------------
Nice map

Star~☆

merchat7

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Topic Starter

merchat7 2011-07-25T02:31:03+00:00

Snowy Dream wrote:
[eldnL's Hard]
02:00:091 (1) - try to end at 02:05:799 no, since all the other spinner in other diffs end at 02:05:911 and I prefer spinner to end on a white tick.

[Insane]
00:48:001 (3,4) - looks not very nice Seems ok, but if you have a suggestion, feel free to suggest it.
01:43:523 (6,7) - (6)move to (x:48 y:256),then add a note at 01:43:635, stack [New](8) behind (6,[New]7) Basically, stack (6,7,8) right? Also i adjusted the spacing for this part so that all the hit circles become perfectly symmetrical
------------------------------------------
Nice map
Star~☆

Astom will check his diff later. Ty for mod and star!

grvyd

183 posts

Joined March 2010

grvyd 2011-07-25T07:54:57+00:00

why this map isnt ranked yet?

title:Himitsujikake no apple (Short Ver.)

merchat7

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Joined December 2010

Topic Starter

merchat7 2011-07-25T09:58:10+00:00

flatps wrote:
why this map isnt ranked yet?

title:Himitsujikake no apple (Short Ver.)

k done

Ty for star!

eldnl

Former osu!catch Champion: 2013

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eldnl 2011-07-25T22:47:15+00:00

Roddie wrote:
[list][*]01:45:314 (x)-It feels like there should be a note here.... and a clap maybe? Ok fixed

indyinyou wrote:
[Hard]
00:42:180 : move to 00:42:404 and add fin Sure
01:40:837 : fin okk

Snowy Dream wrote:
[eldnL's Hard]
02:00:091 (1) - try to end at 02:05:799 No, but I think it's better if you move the spin merchat

Thanks a lot guys ~

Download: Sakakibara Yui - Himitsujikake no apple (Short Ver.) (merchat7) [eldnL's Hard].osu

Backfire

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Joined February 2010

Backfire 2011-07-25T23:09:35+00:00

Is it bad that when I saw apple I said "Oh shit another bad apple ;~;"?

merchat7

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Joined December 2010

Topic Starter

merchat7 2011-07-26T12:07:15+00:00

@eldnl
kk will change spinner for all difficulties
@Backfire
lol, ty for star ^^

Astom

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Joined October 2008

Astom 2011-07-26T21:52:04+00:00

Snowy Dream wrote:
[Astom's Easy]
01:17:329 (x) - add a note no

- Rche -

382 posts

Joined May 2010

- Rche - 2011-07-27T15:38:45+00:00

i'm perfectly fine with this map.
just one thing bothered me.
why don't you silence the final spinner (or at least the end of it)?

+star and no kds.

merchat7

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Topic Starter

merchat7 2011-07-27T16:03:12+00:00

@justnobody

For me, if you silence the spinner, it's like there's no spinner at all so what's the point of adding it in the first place.

Ty for star

Aleks719

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Aleks719 2011-07-28T20:25:51+00:00

General
I don't like 18+, so without video.
Only 3 diffs in Beatmap Listing, but i take 4 diffs after dl.
combobursts have unrankable resolution yours 500x600 instead of 388x767. Cut or rezise them please.
Custom sounds used only in Astom's diff! I guess you could use them too. Aaaaand normal-sliderslide is used nowhere. Remove it or use it too.
Too many useless bookmarks, remove them with notepad if you have a time.

Insane
00:41:061 (6,7,8) - end of (6), (7), (8) - add claps
01:16:658 - no. make claps from here 01:21:135 (4) - remove claps before this point, they sounds bad. Or use custom clap. It sounds not so ugly as default here.
01:26:508 (5) - why claps stopped? keep rhythm.

eldnL's Hard
00:56:732 (3,4) - this jump confused me in 1st trying
Same about claps in kiai
01:45:314 (1) - remove this random clap

Normal
00:02:105 (4) - remove claps from slider
00:05:016 (2,3,4) - imo, it must be (timeline) :

SPOILER

00:30:762 (4) - claps... you didn't use then in other diff, i think, you could keep use whistles. remove claps
00:34:344 (4) - ^
00:37:031 (1,2,3) - ^ etc etc, imo, sounds not perfect. They don't make rhythm.
Same about claps in kiai like in Insane.

Distance : use distance snap in Normals.
00:05:016 (2,3) - too far
00:30:314 (3,4) - ^
00:41:061 (6,7) - too close
00:45:091 (4,1) - too far
00:50:688 (2) - is not stacked perfectly with (1)'s end.
01:06:135 (7,8) - too far

Astom's Easy
Set slider tickrate 2 like in other diffs
Yeah, claps not only in Kiai <3
Very nice diff, nothing to say.

Star'd~

merchat7

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Topic Starter

merchat7 2011-07-28T21:51:24+00:00

Aleks719 wrote:
General
I don't like 18+, so without video.
Only 3 diffs in Beatmap Listing, but i take 4 diffs after dl. It's an error due to database crash, will reupload when this is fixed.
combobursts have unrankable resolution yours 500x600 instead of 388x767. Cut or rezise them please. I check this thread viewtopic.php?f=15&t=51694, it says So, for any combobursts to be correctly shown in game they should be no more than 767px tall and 500px wide. My combobursts are 500px wide and 600px tall (below 767px) so they are ok.
Custom sounds used only in Astom's diff! I guess you could use them too. Aaaaand normal-sliderslide is used nowhere. Remove it or use it too. I'm crap with hitsound, please suggest place to use it. Normal-sliderslide is used in [Insane] 00:09:717 and perhaps other place as well. The file size for it is small anyway so keeping it.
Too many useless bookmarks, remove them with notepad if you have a time. Doesn't make a difference gameplay-wise. Bookmarks are suppose to be used to help with mapping anyways.

Insane
00:41:061 (6,7,8) - end of (6), (7), (8) - add claps Done
01:16:658 - no. make claps from here 01:21:135 (4) - remove claps before this point, they sounds bad. Or use custom clap. It sounds not so ugly as default here. Copied the claps from [eldnL's Hard] will change if he does.
01:26:508 (5) - why claps stopped? keep rhythm. ^

Normal
00:02:105 (4) - remove claps from slider ~~Replaced with whistles~~
00:05:016 (2,3,4) - imo, it must be (timeline) : (1,2,3) follows the vocal, (4) follow the instrument.
SPOILER
00:30:762 (4) - claps... you didn't use then in other diff, i think, you could keep use whistles. remove claps~~Replaced with whistles for now~~
00:34:344 (4) - ^ ^
00:37:031 (1,2,3) - ^ etc etc, imo, sounds not perfect. They don't make rhythm. ^
Same about claps in kiai like in Insane. Base off eldnL's Hard, will change if he does
Hmm, will keep the claps actually, tested it and i feel clap work great in all those place.

Distance : use distance snap in Normals. I used 1.2x distant snap and grid 3 throughout the whole map
00:05:016 (2,3) - too far No problem with the distant snap and grid that i use.
00:30:314 (3,4) - ^ Manually moved there so that is is perfectly centered, i didn't move it too far from where it should have been so keeping it the same.
00:41:061 (6,7) - too close This is because of the slider velocity change, it would be more confusing if i adjust to distant snapping since all the notes before that are placed similarly in the timeline didn't have that far of a jump.
00:45:091 (4,1) - too far Again, fine with the distant snap and grid that i use.
00:50:688 (2) - is not stacked perfectly with (1)'s end. Should be perfectly stacked now
01:06:135 (7,8) - too far Same as 00:30:314

Star'd~

Ty for star and mod, astom and eldnl will check their diff later.

eldnl

Former osu!catch Champion: 2013

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eldnl 2011-07-29T00:54:56+00:00

I don't know how my diff. up the difficulty to 4.51 ;_; I try to download the difficulty but I can just to 4.50 D:
Spread NNII sucks ;_;

About the mod, all fixed.

Something else, the spinner-background is 1023x692, try to use 1024x768 or 800x600.
Maybe you can find another BG and spinner-background because these images are in low quality :c

Download: Sakakibara Yui - Himitsujikake no apple (Short Ver.) (merchat7) [eldnL's Hard].osu

merchat7

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Topic Starter

merchat7 2011-07-29T01:34:28+00:00

@eldnl don't worry about the star rating, your hard is definitely easier than my Insane. Regarding background and spinner background

http://static.minitokyo.net/downloads/3 ... 1371732973
Found this image sometime ago, but didn't use since the ranked version used a similar one. You want me to use it? This is the only clean image i manage to found on google. All others either have the game name on it, or game release date etc. I will resize to 1024x768

http://moeboard.net/egoboard/data/girl/ ... 664594.jpg
Want me to use this image instead? I used the one on the official website but apparently it wasn't very high quality http://www.alma-ringo.com/product/kber/ ... G_01_L.jpg
Spinner background, reason for 1023x692 is template skin's spinner background is 1023x692 so i resize to that.

Current beatmap size is 19.8 mb so if i use a higher quality image, video quality will suffer a bit more so tell me if you really want me to change the images. Your diff has been updated. Ty for late star

Zelos

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Joined May 2010

Zelos 2011-07-29T04:21:23+00:00

Folder:
All good here!

General:
If the video really is 18+, it probably isn't allowed.
Use the same slider tick rate for all difficulties.

Astom's Easy:
00:39:046 (1) - this kind of doesn't fit. why not just replace it with 2 circles?
You are really good at making easies Astom.

Normal:
00:49:568 (1) - turn on grid snap 4 and move to the right 1 grid point?
01:20:464 (2) - this is very very slightly touching the HP bar.

eldnl's Hard:
00:03:673 (1,2) - stack the ends on top of each other perfectly please.
Your difficulties are always so pretty

Insane:
01:59:195 (5,6) - stack the ends just a bit more!

Star

Sallad4ever

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Joined October 2009

Sallad4ever 2011-07-29T13:32:41+00:00

Hi merchat7

[General]
- I've read the previous post about this but still the video is not good. I appreciate the warning but even the ranked one are barely rankable with the censored effect. This "bare" video will surely be refused by MAT/BAT. Consider add the same censor or just plain remove the vid
- For the last spinner on each diff. Use 50% or lower volume to decrease the sounds of spinnerspin & spinnerbonus. Also the spinner should be extended another 1/8 beat so it end on 02:05:855 cause the beat of the bell sound is in here

[Astom's Easy]
This diff should be named Normal. Mostly because of the beat after spinners are very soon. Other than that there's nothing bother me

[Normal]
A little tweak and this could easily become a Hard diff
00:00:091 (1) - Add finish at the start
00:00:091 (1) - The timing section here is unnecessary cause you can just lower the volume on the offset
00:03:673 (1) - Whistle at the start?
00:05:464 (4) - Remove the whistle at the start
00:41:285 (7) - The only slider that use 1.5x speed, It's too unexpected. I suggest to use normal slider speed. Also try adding a clap at it too.
00:49:568 (1) - I suggest to remove the anchor point in the middle so the slider will look better

[eldnl's Hard]
Delicious~
00:05:240 (3,1) - This jump is too sudden and doesn't fit very well

[Insane]
Quite an easy Insane
00:28:076 (1) ~ 00:37:479 (3) - Compare to your normal, this part still lack off hitsound. Using the same hitsound pattern as in Normal is ok
00:43:523 (5) ~ 00:48:896 (6) - ^
01:17:329 (1) - Remove NC
01:42:628 (2,4) - Add whistle to these?
01:45:762 (3) - Finish at the start?
01:50:464 (1) - Add whistle
01:59:195 (5) - IMO it's play better if you use normal speed

That's all from me. About the vid if you're not sure about it, you can consult to MAT/BAT, but I'm sure they won't allow it too
Good Luck and Star

winber1

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Joined February 2010

winber1 2011-07-29T14:32:51+00:00

02:00:091 (1) - if you want to follow that bell-like sound thing in the music, this should end at 02:05:837 (1) - (1/6 tick, just play it back at 25%). you should also silence it tho, or make it really soft. the spinner ends too loudly imo >_>. If not, you could just end it on the red tick too (like eldnl's diff). it doesn't really matter, but it just needs to be consistent.

Insane

00:09:717 (8) - 1 grid to the right
00:29:531 (x) - add note? just to follow vocals a little more.
00:33:113 (x) - ^
01:21:471 (x) - ^
01:22:702 (10) - new combo?
01:30:091 (x) - flows better if you add a note here imo.

eldnl's

00:04:568 (2,3,1) - honestly, i would just space this normally. A jump here doesn't fit imo.
00:42:180 (7) - sounds better to me if you delete this note (and rearrange spacing somehow. (this note just puts a random note with soft whistle in a place where the music doesn't really do anything :/ it also feels a little weird to me to play that note.)
01:52:367 (3,4) - i don't like the stack that much, and how you coupled it with this jump 01:52:702 (4,1) - (it bothers me having a jump like that :/)
01:59:867 (6) - unstack?

Normal

00:02:105 (4) - delete claps (and the clap on the slider as whole) and put a whistle at 00:02:32?
00:36:359 (3,1,2,3) - this orientation could be a little confusing for newer players.(i know i would when i really sucked lol >_>. i probably would've tried clicking combo 2 instead of combo 1 and realized what an epic fail that was)
00:59:419 (1,2) - erm.. center this?
01:01:882 (2,3) - replace this with a 1/2 tick repeat slider? so that it follows vocals more

SPOILER

01:36:359 (5) - decrease length of slider by 1/2 tick ?
01:56:508 (9,1) - why the jump?

Astom's

--kiai time is a little different.

01:07:255 (1) - you shuld just make this repeat slider 3/4 ticks in length for each repeat to follow vocals more. you don't have anything after the note anyways :/
01:09:046 (1) - change this into a slider that starts at 01:08:823 and ends 01:09:046
01:58:523 (5) - new combo?

Nice map! :3

Star~~

merchat7

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Topic Starter

merchat7 2011-07-29T15:34:03+00:00

Zelos

SPOILER

Zelos wrote:
Folder:
All good here! k

General:
If the video really is 18+, it probably isn't allowed. Hm, will wait on mat/bat opinion first.
Use the same slider tick rate for all difficulties. The only difficulty with a different tickrate is astom's, when he check his diff, he will probably fix it.

Normal:
00:49:568 (1) - turn on grid snap 4 and move to the right 1 grid point? I've adjusted this slider in grid 4 so that it is perfectly symmetrical.
01:20:464 (2) - this is very very slightly touching the HP bar. Moved down a little bit more.

Insane:
01:59:195 (5,6) - stack the ends just a bit more! Done

Star

Sallad4ever

SPOILER

Sallad4ever wrote:
Hi merchat7

[General]
- I've read the previous post about this but still the video is not good. I appreciate the warning but even the ranked one are barely rankable with the censored effect. This "bare" video will surely be refused by MAT/BAT. Consider add the same censor or just plain remove the vid Hm will wait on MAT/BAT opinion. Going to remove the warning actually since there is only about 5-10 seconds of the video where it may be consider 18+.
- For the last spinner on each diff. Use 50% or lower volume to decrease the sounds of spinnerspin & spinnerbonus. Also the spinner should be extended another 1/8 beat so it end on 02:05:855 cause the beat of the bell sound is in here Done, regarding spinner length. I was advised by Snowy Dream & eldnl to decrease it by 1/8. It was on where you suggested before.

[Astom's Easy]
This diff should be named Normal. Mostly because of the beat after spinners are very soon. Other than that there's nothing bother me I disagree, you can always stop spinning a bit earlier to get ready for the notes and i don't think this should be rename Normal just because of this.

[Normal]
A little tweak and this could easily become a Hard diff
00:00:091 (1) - Add finish at the start Done
00:00:091 (1) - The timing section here is unnecessary cause you can just lower the volume on the offset k removed timing section and lowered the volume on the offset (red timing point).
00:03:673 (1) - Whistle at the start? Done
00:05:464 (4) - Remove the whistle at the start Done
00:41:285 (7) - The only slider that use 1.5x speed, It's too unexpected. I suggest to use normal slider speed. Also try adding a clap at it too. Done, change volume to 45% so that it is like Insane.
00:49:568 (1) - I suggest to remove the anchor point in the middle so the slider will look better Done, adjusted spacing in this section

[Insane]
Quite an easy Insane Perhaps, tried my best to make it hard, since this was the first difficulty i've made. No tweaks at all except fixing all the spacing.
00:28:076 (1) ~ 00:37:479 (3) - Compare to your normal, this part still lack off hitsound. Using the same hitsound pattern as in Normal is ok k, added the same pattern from Normal
00:43:523 (5) ~ 00:48:896 (6) - ^ ^
01:17:329 (1) - Remove NC Done
01:42:628 (2,4) - Add whistle to these? Done
01:45:762 (3) - Finish at the start? Done
01:50:464 (1) - Add whistle Done
01:59:195 (5) - IMO it's play better if you use normal speed kk, done

That's all from me. About the vid if you're not sure about it, you can consult to MAT/BAT, but I'm sure they won't allow it too kk will try to ask them, main reason that i feel the video is ok is because a recently ranked beatmap have a video with some scenes which could be consider 18+ so i thought this should be ok as well.
Good Luck and Star

winber1

SPOILER

winber1 wrote:
02:00:091 (1) - if you want to follow that bell-like sound thing in the music, this should end at 02:05:837 (1) - (1/6 tick, just play it back at 25%). you should also silence it tho, or make it really soft. the spinner ends too loudly imo >_>. If not, you could just end it on the red tick too (like eldnl's diff). it doesn't really matter, but it just needs to be consistent. Ty, done. I've changed it to 50% volume and was about to update but noticed a new mod post

Insane

00:09:717 (8) - 1 grid to the right Aligned this with end of slider 3
00:29:531 (x) - add note? just to follow vocals a little more. Feels weird imo, so no.
00:33:113 (x) - ^ ^
01:21:471 (x) - ^ ^
01:22:702 (10) - new combo? Done
01:30:091 (x) - flows better if you add a note here imo. Nah, feel weird to follow instrument and vocal at the same time. Im following the vocal mainly for this part anyway. Will be weird if i start to change now.

Normal

00:02:105 (4) - delete claps (and the clap on the slider as whole) and put a whistle at 00:02:32? k done
00:36:359 (3,1,2,3) - this orientation could be a little confusing for newer players.(i know i would when i really sucked lol >_>. i probably would've tried clicking combo 2 instead of combo 1 and realized what an epic fail that was) hm, i say it's fine, but i'm up for interesting ideas
00:59:419 (1,2) - erm.. center this? Done
01:01:882 (2,3) - replace this with a 1/2 tick repeat slider? so that it follows vocals more Done, lol @ file comment
01:36:359 (5) - decrease length of slider by 1/2 tick ? Nah, it's fine
01:56:508 (9,1) - why the jump? woops 01:57:404 is suppose to be at 01:57:180. Adjusted the new combo and manually moved (10, previously 1) so that it looks better.

Nice map! :3

Star~~

Ty for stars and mods, Astom & eldnl will check their diffs later.

Katsuri

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Joined February 2011

Katsuri 2011-07-29T20:40:47+00:00

Astom's Easy

00:48:449 (4) - This slider is called kick slider because haves more than one repeat. I suggest you to remove this, because for an newbie is hard to see how much repeats the slider goes.

~~02:00:091 (1) - The end of this slider needs to be on 02:05:911. Unsnapped is not recommended.~~

No major problems, Good map.

eldnl

Former osu!catch Champion: 2013

2,930 posts

Joined March 2010

eldnl 2011-07-29T21:11:31+00:00

Zelos wrote:
eldnl's Hard:
00:03:673 (1,2) - stack the ends on top of each other perfectly please. Sure fixed
Your difficulties are always so pretty

Sallad4ever wrote:
[eldnl's Hard]
Delicious~
00:05:240 (3,1) - This jump is too sudden and doesn't fit very well That will never change !

winber1 wrote:

eldnl's

00:04:568 (2,3,1) - honestly, i would just space this normally. A jump here doesn't fit imo. NOO
00:42:180 (7) - sounds better to me if you delete this note (and rearrange spacing somehow. (this note just puts a random note with soft whistle in a place where the music doesn't really do anything :/ it also feels a little weird to me to play that note.) This note follow perfect the music for me :\
01:52:367 (3,4) - i don't like the stack that much, and how you coupled it with this jump 01:52:702 (4,1) - (it bothers me having a jump like that :/) Yes, you're right, but I don't know how I can change it, any suggestion? ;_;
01:59:867 (6) - unstack? Nah

Thanks ~

Download: Sakakibara Yui - Himitsujikake no apple (Short Ver.) (merchat7) [eldnL's Hard].osu

merchat7

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Topic Starter

merchat7 2011-07-29T21:25:40+00:00

@Katsuri ty for suggestion and star, astom will check it later

nimi

978 posts

Joined April 2010

nimi 2011-07-30T14:56:40+00:00

Hey~
Only one little thing bugged me >_<

[Normal]
00:50:688 (2) - stack it correctly?

Ohwell. Nice mapset. Starr'd~

merchat7

1,676 posts

Joined December 2010

Topic Starter

merchat7 2011-07-30T17:23:43+00:00

Wiinter wrote:
Hey~
Only one little thing bugged me >_<

[Normal]
00:50:688 (2) - stack it correctly? Ah ty, fixed

Ohwell. Nice mapset. Starr'd~

Ty for mod and star

wcx19911123

3,862 posts

Joined June 2010

wcx19911123 2011-07-31T13:59:32+00:00

from my que
I love this song and map

[General]
fine

[SB]
if you can make the title come out the same as the video , like the shining stars , it is awesome >w<

[Astom's Easy]
00:48:449 (4) - start at 00:48:673 and repeat 1 time less
awesome diff

[Normal]
00:28:076 (1) - circle at 00:28:076 and slider from 00:28:299 to 00:28:747 is better imo
00:31:658 (1) - ^
00:39:493 (2,3,4,5) - this is really confusing for newbie
00:56:508 (6,7) - slider first then circle is better
01:51:359 (3) - to 2 sliders is better , or it is hard to read when it end
01:56:060 (8,9,10) - kinda confusing 0.0
01:58:523 (2) - to 2 sliders

[eldnL's Hard]
AR+1 is better to me 0.0
00:05:240 (3) - x:256 y:200 , or it is a very confusing jump here

[Insane]
01:46:770 (3,4) - I suggest this to a slider , or it is kinda confusing
01:53:934 (4,5) - ^

nice map

merchat7

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Topic Starter

merchat7 2011-07-31T22:29:13+00:00

wcx19911123

SPOILER

wcx19911123 wrote:
from my que
I love this song and map

[General]
fine

[SB]
if you can make the title come out the same as the video , like the shining stars , it is awesome >w< Sorry, don't know how to do this, if someone wants to do it, feel free

[Normal]
00:28:076 (1) - circle at 00:28:076 and slider from 00:28:299 to 00:28:747 is better imo Done
00:31:658 (1) - ^ ^
00:39:493 (2,3,4,5) - this is really confusing for newbie Don't really know what to change, any suggestion?
00:56:508 (6,7) - slider first then circle is better Done
01:51:359 (3) - to 2 sliders is better , or it is hard to read when it end Nah it's fine, if the person is listening to the rhythm, he can definitely hear 4 beats, and the slider is pointing to the next note.
01:56:060 (8,9,10) - kinda confusing 0.0 Trying 4 ar now so that the note feel less clustered.
01:58:523 (2) - to 2 sliders Same reason as 01:51:359

[Insane]
01:46:770 (3,4) - I suggest this to a slider , or it is kinda confusing kk done, adjusted some stuff so that slider looks better
01:53:934 (4,5) - ^ ^

nice map

Thanks for star, kudo star and mod, astom & eldnl will check it later.

Astom

1,588 posts

Joined October 2008

Astom 2011-08-01T00:55:33+00:00

Zelos wrote:
Astom's Easy:
00:39:046 (1) - this kind of doesn't fit. why not just replace it with 2 circles? mm ok
You are really good at making easies Astom. thx o/

winber1 wrote:
Astom's

--kiai time is a little different. I don't see problems with that

01:07:255 (1) - you shuld just make this repeat slider 3/4 ticks in length for each repeat to follow vocals more. you don't have anything after the note anyways :/ uhm no
01:09:046 (1) - change this into a slider that starts at 01:08:823 and ends 01:09:046 ok
01:58:523 (5) - new combo? ok

Katsuri wrote:
Astom's Easy

00:48:449 (4) - This slider is called kick slider because haves more than one repeat. I suggest you to remove this, because for an newbie is hard to see how much repeats the slider goes. uhm no because I don't see any better solution.

wcx19911123 wrote:
[Astom's Easy]
00:48:449 (4) - start at 00:48:673 and repeat 1 time less fixed in a very better way
awesome diff thx o/

Download: Sakakibara Yui - Himitsujikake no apple (Short Ver.) (merchat7) [Astom's Easy].osu

Kiddo-Kun

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Joined May 2009

Kiddo-Kun 2011-08-01T01:08:24+00:00

Ohai~ As requested:

[General]
You should fix the spinner-circle.png because it wobbles. Or maybe it's just me.
I kinda agree with Sallad about the video. But I guess that's for the MATs and BATs to decide.

[Astom's Easy]
Nothing to report. Good job Astom.

[Normal]
00:28:299 (2) - Add finish to sliders end
00:42:404 (1) - ^
00:07:255 (1) - Add a finish to this sliders start

[eldnL's Hard]
00:05:240 (3,1) - I think (3) should be below the sliders. I don't think the jump is necessary.
00:07:255 (1) - Add a NC to match the previous parts and match the vocals.
Nice. Fun. Diff.

[Insane]
Nothing to report. Good.

Overall: Nothing too major (Well except for the spinner, but I think that's just me). Good map.

STAR

JauiPlaY

1,309 posts

Joined April 2010

JauiPlaY 2011-08-01T03:16:53+00:00

hihi~

some suggestions:

[General]
fine. but the comboburst files do not looks well imo...and what's more, i guess they are too large.

[Astom's Easy]
00:39:493(6) - maybe a slider ends on 00:39:717?
01:08:598(x) - add a note?
01:17:329(x) - ^

[Normal]
control your combo between 4-7 please.
00:57:180(1) - a note here and the spinner starts at 00:57:404?
01:28:971(3) - finish on the end of this slider.

[eldnL's Hard]
01:52:367(3,4) - a slider here?
amazing diff.

[Insane]
00:29:195(5) - the slider ends on 00:29:531.
00:30:762(5) - do not be overlapped well.
00:50:688(4) - the slider ends on 00:51:023.
01:16:098(x) - add a note.
01:21:135(4) - the slider ends on 01:21:471.
01:30:426(x) - add a note.
01:37:926(1,2,3,4,5,6) - it's better for me.

really awesome 1st map. good luck!
so
star~

merchat7

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Joined December 2010

Topic Starter

merchat7 2011-08-01T10:38:43+00:00

Kiddo-Kun

SPOILER

Kiddo-Kun wrote:
Ohai~ As requested:

[General]
You should fix the spinner-circle.png because it wobbles. Or maybe it's just me. Odd, i just grey scale (turn the spinner black and white) the template skin spinner circle. So idk.
I kinda agree with Sallad about the video. But I guess that's for the MATs and BATs to decide. Still trying to grab a mat in here for opinion

[Normal]
00:28:299 (2) - Add finish to sliders end Done
00:42:404 (1) - ^ ^
00:07:255 (1) - Add a finish to this sliders start Done

[Insane]
Nothing to report. Good.

Overall: Nothing too major (Well except for the spinner, but I think that's just me). Good map.

STAR

JauiPlaY

SPOILER

JauiPlaY wrote:
hihi~
some suggestions:

[General]
fine. but the comboburst files do not looks well imo...and what's more, i guess they are too large. Best image i could find were 250x300 and that's a little too small so i double the resolution. eldnl also point it out and is trying to get someone to do combo bursts for me. Keep it for now since you can't really notice the quality of the combo burst while playing anyway.

[Normal]
control your combo between 4-7 please. Checked the map, there is one combo that is 8 (seems ok imo) and two combos which were 9 (again seems ok imo). No change
00:57:180(1) - a note here and the spinner starts at 00:57:404? Nah, the space is there to let the player knows a spinner is coming, putting a circle 1 tick before doesn't feel right for me.
01:28:971(3) - finish on the end of this slider. Done

[Insane]
00:29:195(5) - the slider ends on 00:29:531. keeping slider length the same as (4)
00:30:762(5) - do not be overlapped well. Seems fine, i overlap it because someone suggested it.
00:50:688(4) - the slider ends on 00:51:023. Keeping slider length the same as (5)
01:16:098(x) - add a note. Hit circle here doesn't follow anything so no
01:21:135(4) - the slider ends on 01:21:471. No since this 'll be the only slider to end on a blue tick.
01:30:426(x) - add a note. Same reason as 01:16:098
01:37:926(1,2,3,4,5,6) - it's better for me. Done
really awesome 1st map. good luck!
so
star~

Ty for mods and stars

As per usual, astom & eldnl will check later.

Megurine Luka

2,580 posts

Joined November 2010

Megurine Luka 2011-08-01T21:13:58+00:00

Hi. My mod.

It's really good so not many suggestions.

[Atom's Easy]
00:05:016 (3) - del the return
00:12:180 (2) - change into a circle. it's better to leave some time before spinner in Easy
01:14:867 (2) - ^
02:00:091 (1) - move to 02:00:314 for the same reason

[Normal]
distance spacing x1.0 recommended, though it's ok to be 1.2
00:01:658 (3) - del fin

[eldnL's hard]
00:05:464 (1) - spacing

[Insane]
00:58:299 (1,2,3,4) - smaller square?
01:49:568 (5) - try this

Very nice song and maps. Absolutely Star.

KingKrishna

285 posts

Joined October 2010

KingKrishna 2011-08-01T23:09:50+00:00

I'm sorry i couldn't help this map in finding any problems.
STAR!

merchat7

1,676 posts

Joined December 2010

Topic Starter

merchat7 2011-08-02T09:44:04+00:00

Megurine Luka wrote:
Hi. My mod.
It's really good so not many suggestions.

[Normal]
distance spacing x1.0 recommended, though it's ok to be 1.2 yep, no point changing now since i prob have to remap if i change distant snapping to 1.0x
00:01:658 (3) - del fin Done

[Insane]
00:58:299 (1,2,3,4) - smaller square? The distant between (1) & (2) and (3) & (4) is snap to 2.0x distant snapping. I want to keep it like that.
01:49:568 (5) - try this Hm don't really like it, it's fine as is.

Very nice song and maps. Absolutely Star.

Ty for mod and star, astom & eldnl will check later.

@mebins no problem, tyvm for star.

BounceBabe

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Joined October 2010

BounceBabe 2011-08-02T16:22:45+00:00

General

02:00:091 (1) - End of the slider here 02:05:911 -

Astom's Easy

00:27:180 (1) - Needs a 1/1 spacing at the end before the 00:29:195 (1) - slider starts
01:43:971 (1) - ^

Normal

00:55:389 (4) - New combo
01:48:001 (7) - ^
01:55:165 (7) - ^

eldnL's Hard

01:14:643 - Add a circle

Insane

Look at the spacing :s and the position of the objects

Grid Level: 4 then 00:30:762 (5) - this slider 1 Grid left
00:48:001 (3) - Move it to (1) ?
00:54:270 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Doesn't follow the rythm correctly :s ... looks a bit random
01:00:986 (3) - New combo
01:07:255 (4) - ^
01:22:255 (8) - ^ remove next new combo

Only suggestions... Easy should be fixed ~ Star

merchat7

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merchat7 2011-08-02T18:04:47+00:00

BounceBabe wrote:
General

02:00:091 (1) - End of the slider here 02:05:911 - Sorry, keeping the spinner there as per winber's suggestion.

Normal

00:55:389 (4) - New combo Done
01:48:001 (7) - ^ I put new combo on (6) since i generally don't like to stack two different combo on top of each other
01:55:165 (7) - ^ ^

Insane

Look at the spacing :s and the position of the objects

Grid Level: 4 then 00:30:762 (5) - this slider 1 Grid left Done
00:48:001 (3) - Move it to (1) ? Feels better, but hard to sight read (3) so no
00:54:270 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Doesn't follow the rythm correctly :s ... looks a bit random If you mean the timing on the hit circles of this section, they fit the vocal fine... if you're talking about how it look, well idk.
01:00:986 (3) - New combo Don't see a need for this new combo
01:07:255 (4) - ^ Done
01:22:255 (8) - ^ remove next new combo Done

Only suggestions... Easy should be fixed ~ Star

Ty for mod and star, astom & eldnl will check later.

poisonchan

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poisonchan 2011-08-03T20:39:34+00:00

Hello :3 Modding your map as your request, hope it helps.

[?] = Suggestion.
[!] = You NEED to change.
[.] = If possible, change.

[eldnL's Hard]
00:07:255 (4) - New combo, to make it consistent with the previous new combos?
00:28:076 (4) - New combo, to follow the vocal and leave the 3 previous rhythm beats in a single combo?
00:28:971 (1) - Remove new combo (Only if you chnaged the previous one)
00:31:658 (5) - New combo (Only if you changed the previous one)
00:32:329 (1) - Remove new combo (Only if you changed the previous one)
01:07:255 (5) - New combo, due to the 'changing' in the tick order.

[Insane]
00:33:225 (6) - New combo starts here.
00:33:673 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:48:225 (4) - If possible, don't overlap notes, looks odd ?
01:31:658 (1) - To make it similar to the previous pattern (01:17:329 (6) ) Remove new combo. (Or insert new combo in the previous pattern)
01:32:329 (3) - New combo starts here.
01:35:911 (1) - To make it similar to the previous pattern (01:21:583 (5) ) Remove new combo.(Or insert new combo in the previous pattern)
01:37:031 (1) - To make it similar to the previous patter (01:22:702 (9) ) Remove new combo. (Or insert new combo in the previous pattern)

Pretty nice mapset. :3
Deserves a star.

Astom

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Astom 2011-08-03T20:51:30+00:00

JauiPlaY wrote:
[Astom's Easy]
00:39:493(6) - maybe a slider ends on 00:39:717? actually changed in a previous mod
01:08:598(x) - add a note? no
01:17:329(x) - ^ no

Megurine Luka wrote:
[Atom's Easy]
00:05:016 (3) - del the return no
00:12:180 (2) - change into a circle. it's better to leave some time before spinner in Easy no
01:14:867 (2) - ^ no
02:00:091 (1) - move to 02:00:314 for the same reason no

BounceBabe wrote:
Astom's Easy

00:27:180 (1) - Needs a 1/1 spacing at the end before the 00:29:195 (1) - slider starts no
01:43:971 (1) - ^ no

No changes for me.

eldnl

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eldnl 2011-08-03T23:21:55+00:00

Thanks guys but the map is fine without the mods ... ^^
Bye

IceBeam

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IceBeam 2011-08-04T10:44:30+00:00

Okay then..

Map settings and folder is fine except one thing.

Combobursts..they are a bit wide.Original is 388 pixles wide.

[Astom's Easy]
00:35:911 - Finish is missing here.
00:56:508 - This part isn't filled with notes..maybe you could add here and 00:56:956? Though it sounds fine without them too.
02:00:091 (1) - I'd add a whistle at the end.

[Normal]
00:49:568 (1) - Add a reverse at 00:50:016.
01:09:717 (3) - I'd suggest to remove this slider with 1/2 sliders placed on red ticks: (01:09:717 - 01:10:165 & 01:10:613 - 01:11:061)
01:23:822 (2) - It doesn't fit at all

Use these notes instead: 01:23:822,01:24:046,01:24:493,01:24:717.

[eldnl's Hard]
As your map is fine without mods,then I'll skip it.

[Insane]
00:30:762 (5) - Stack properly?
00:35:911 - Finish?
00:41:061 (6,7,8) - Not a big fan of stacked blue ticks.If you don't know the song it's almost impossible to read it perfecly.
00:58:299 (1,2,3,4) - These jumps are a bit out of whole map,they're way too unexpected.Reduce them a little?
01:06:583 (3) - Move it 2 grids right to make symmetrical?
01:24:270 - Finish.
01:25:837 (4) - ^
01:26:732 (6) - ^
01:46:546 (1) - Kinda hard to read with this spacing,it looks like a 1/2 space,so I failed to read it.Maybe you should change it to reverse-slider or clear up the spacing a bit?
01:46:770 (3) - Extend to next white tick maybe?
01:50:016 - I'd add a note.
01:53:374 (1,2,3,4,1) - Well,if you followed previous suggestions,change here as well.

Nice mapset,good luck.
Star~

merchat7

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merchat7 2011-08-04T17:16:14+00:00

poisonchan

SPOILER

poisonchan wrote:
Hello :3 Modding your map as your request, hope it helps.

[?] = Suggestion.
[!] = You NEED to change.
[.] = If possible, change.

[Insane]
00:33:225 (6) - New combo starts here. Done
00:33:673 (1) - Remove new combo. Done
00:48:225 (4) - If possible, don't overlap notes, looks odd ? Don't have any idea on how to change this part, if i put 4 more up, it'll feel weird for the jump and lower will cause spacing issues.
01:31:658 (1) - To make it similar to the previous pattern (01:17:329 (6) ) Remove new combo. (Or insert new combo in the previous pattern) Removed new combo
01:32:329 (3) - New combo starts here. Done
01:35:911 (1) - To make it similar to the previous pattern (01:21:583 (5) ) Remove new combo.(Or insert new combo in the previous pattern) Insert new combo in previous section
01:37:031 (1) - To make it similar to the previous patter (01:22:702 (9) ) Remove new combo. (Or insert new combo in the previous pattern) ^

Pretty nice mapset. :3
Deserves a star.

IceBeam

SPOILER

IceBeam wrote:
Okay then..

Map settings and folder is fine except one thing.

Combobursts..they are a bit wide.Original is 388 pixles wide. According to this it's fine viewtopic.php?f=15&t=51694

[Normal]
00:49:568 (1) - Add a reverse at 00:50:016. Reverse fits the vocal better, but doesn't really fit how to the beat are placed at this place, so no
01:09:717 (3) - I'd suggest to remove this slider with 1/2 sliders placed on red ticks: (01:09:717 - 01:10:165 & 01:10:613 - 01:11:061) They fit the vocal nicely at red tick
01:23:822 (2) - It doesn't fit at all Use these notes instead: 01:23:822,01:24:046,01:24:493,01:24:717. I think, that's a little complicated for a Normal.

[Insane]
00:30:762 (5) - Stack properly? Should be fixed
00:35:911 - Finish? feels out of place
00:41:061 (6,7,8) - Not a big fan of stacked blue ticks.If you don't know the song it's almost impossible to read it perfecly. fits, perfectly with the song through
00:58:299 (1,2,3,4) - These jumps are a bit out of whole map,they're way too unexpected.Reduce them a little? As explain in an earlier mod, spacing between (1) & (2) and (3) & (4) is precisely 2.0x, want to keep it this way.
01:06:583 (3) - Move it 2 grids right to make symmetrical? Done, adjusted spacing for next section accordingly
01:24:270 - Finish. hmm, feels really odd to put a finish at the end of a slider unless it's the last note of a combo
01:25:837 (4) - ^ ^
01:26:732 (6) - ^ Putting a finish here will make it feel like a finish spam
01:46:546 (1) - Kinda hard to read with this spacing,it looks like a 1/2 space,so I failed to read it.Maybe you should change it to reverse-slider or clear up the spacing a bit? Never felt weird to me, may change if more people suggest this
01:46:770 (3) - Extend to next white tick maybe? Playback at 0.25x speed and you'll see the instrument end at the blue tick
01:50:016 - I'd add a note. Feel fine, there isn't anything on the space between, except for 2 beats which are use to keep rhythm. Doesn't fit with the mapi think.
01:53:374 (1,2,3,4,1) - Well,if you followed previous suggestions,change here as well. Read above

Nice mapset,good luck.
Star~

Ty for mods and stars ^^ Astom will reply later.

OzzyOzrock

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OzzyOzrock 2011-08-06T05:58:38+00:00

I am a month late. Lol.

[Astom's Easy]
HOLA ASTOM

Te amo.
Me ubviera gustado encontrar algo >:
[Normal]
Good job :3

Wish I could find stuff to correct at night ==
[eLdnL's Hard]
HOLA ELDNL

Te amo.
Y te recommiendo usar no namas los ~ sliders con 9 puntos, pero tambien los de 4. Se ven mejor.

01:15:986 (1,2) y 01:30:314 (1,2) - Intenta esto y lo alreves para el otro.
[Insane]
01:25:837 (4) - Finish?
01:26:732 (6) - ^

Rest is good. Star!

merchat7

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merchat7 2011-08-06T09:20:48+00:00

OzzyOzrock wrote:
[Insane]
01:25:837 (4) - Finish? Three finishes at this section already, feel like a finish spam if I put even more
01:26:732 (6) - ^ ^

ty for mod and star

eldnl

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eldnl 2011-08-09T17:55:58+00:00

OzzyOzrock wrote:
[eLdnL's Hard]
HOLA ELDNL HOLA

Te amo. <3<3
Y te recommiendo usar no namas los ~ sliders con 9 puntos, pero tambien los de 4. Se ven mejor.

01:15:986 (1,2) y 01:30:314 (1,2) - Intenta esto y lo alreves para el otro. No entiendo @.@

Gracias

Astom

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Astom 2011-08-10T21:42:41+00:00

IceBeam wrote:
Map settings and folder is fine except one thing.

Combobursts..they are a bit wide.Original is 388 pixles wide. actually no, max size for comboburst is 500x767

[Astom's Easy]
00:35:911 - Finish is missing here. no
00:56:508 - This part isn't filled with notes..maybe you could add here and 00:56:956? Though it sounds fine without them too. uhm no
02:00:091 (1) - I'd add a whistle at the end. uhm no

OzzyOzrock wrote:
[Astom's Easy]
HOLA ASTOM ola ozzy

Te amo. xD thx?
Me ubviera gustado encontrar algo >: quisa algun dia hahaha xD

Uhm no changes.

merchat7

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merchat7 2011-08-12T20:55:16+00:00

Btw, already contacted a mat for a mod. Hopefully beatmap is good enough for a bubble

Still waiting for it through.

If anyone want to mod this, feel free, doesn't hurt for more suggestions

Rukario

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Rukario 2011-08-16T13:16:34+00:00

Map is pretty solid and I actually couldn't find anything to point out. SO I guess I'll bubble this.^^

merchat7

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merchat7 2011-08-16T22:13:04+00:00

Rukarioman wrote:
Map is pretty solid and I actually couldn't find anything to point out. SO I guess I'll bubble this.^^

Tyvm

Not really sure if you can edit Creator's Word without breaking bubble, so i'll wait for a bat to mod this before fixing it.

eldnl

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eldnl 2011-08-20T01:07:01+00:00

gogogorank
:3

Shiirn

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Shiirn 2011-08-21T05:04:21+00:00

General
that spinner is pretty suggestive

Astom
00:27:180 (1,1) - this is very hard to play (note soon after spinner), read (note appears halfway through spinner), and listen (spinner doesn't start or end on any musical beats) to. Consider removing the spinner entirely.
01:15:314 (1,1) - no problems with this one though
01:43:971 (1,1) - close but not much you can do here, at least it -fits-

Normal
ok

hard
00:05:240 (3,1) - put 3 below the slider so the jump isn't retarded

insane
ok

merchat7

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merchat7 2011-08-21T11:31:51+00:00

I think the spinner is fine since it's also in the video at 00:46:00 - 00:49:00.

Ty for mod, will wait for astom & eldnl to reply.

Astom

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Astom 2011-08-22T00:37:48+00:00

Shiirn wrote:
Astom
00:27:180 (1,1) - this is very hard to play (note soon after spinner), read (note appears halfway through spinner), and listen (spinner doesn't start or end on any musical beats) to. Consider removing the spinner entirely. ._.
01:15:314 (1,1) - no problems with this one though
01:43:971 (1,1) - close but not much you can do here, at least it -fits-

No changes =o

eldnl

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eldnl 2011-08-23T21:37:35+00:00

Shiirn wrote:
General
hard
00:05:240 (3,1) - put 3 below the slider so the jump isn't retarded Ok

Download: Sakakibara Yui - Himitsujikake no apple (Short Ver.) (merchat7) [eldnL's Hard].osu

merchat7

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merchat7 2011-08-24T00:39:30+00:00

Self pop to upload new version of eldnl's difficulty. Also fixed creator words.

Will try and get rukarioman back for rebubble.

Edit: Rukarioman is currently unavailable, trying to get another mat.
Edit 2: Azure_Kyte will check this eventually.
Edit 3: Rukarioman is now available, may ask for a recheck if I catch him on.

Rukario

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Rukario 2011-09-22T19:15:54+00:00

Everything should be fine again. If there's another issue, don't hesitate to call me.
Re-bubbled.

Sakura

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Sakura 2011-10-06T02:14:13+00:00

Wow an old novice mapper bubble? why didnt i see this before xD
[General]
Remove "hentai" "eroge" "game" "yuri" from tags, why would u even need those (and video game will be added to genre... in fact let me do that now)
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/158554 what the hell? X_X
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/158556 You gotta be kidding me >_>
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/158557 orz
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/158559 Really now.
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/158560 Upskirt shot?
I'm sorry but im gonna ask you to completely drop the video, too much NSFW on it to be censored ._.

[Skin]
spinner-background.png http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/158553 ._. no just no, all skin/sb/video/background should be PG-13

[Insane]
00:00:091 - Remove the green line and set the volume of the red line to 80% instead.
00:51:807 (7) - I can barely see this slider, i tried about 3 times and it's hard to see it unless you know it's there, the hitbursts are somewhat hiding it and it doesnt contrast with the background http://puu.sh/6zY0 very well. It can easily be fixed by colourhaxing this combo tho.

[eldnL's Hard]
01:07:255 (5,6,7) - The spacing on these is pretty similar to this 00:40:165 (2,3,4) but the former are 3/4 apart each while the later are 1/2 apart hence tripping me as i thought the former would be 1/2 apart as well

merchat7

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merchat7 2011-10-06T15:09:43+00:00

Sakura Hana wrote:
Wow an old novice mapper bubble? why didnt i see this before xD
[General]
Remove "hentai" "eroge" "game" "yuri" from tags, why would u even need those (and video game will be added to genre... in fact let me do that now) http://osu.ppy.sh/s/32534 Same tags as the ranked version. Don't see any harm in keeping it, plus hentai and eroge will let people know this may contain suggestive content. Also, if someone search game in the search box, they won't find songs in the Video Game genre, but only maps that put game in tags so I say that tag is fine.
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/158554 what the hell? X_X The white effect is there to censor it. Maybe I need to make it bigger?
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/158556 You gotta be kidding me >_> http://puu.sh/6B9b ^ Same here
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/158557 orz May need a bit of censoring, but the video already somewhat censor this (half of the image is cut off)
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/158559 Really now.^, a little bit more suggestive than the previous one.
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/158560 Upskirt shot? I can barely notice this one, it blend with the background/clothing anyway so I really think this one is fine. Never notice this, until you pointed it out.
I'm sorry but im gonna ask you to completely drop the video, too much NSFW on it to be censored ._. I rather not drop the video considering there is already a ranked version with the video and I always prefer a beatmap with video whenever possible. Since this is the opening song to a 18+ game, some suggestive contents is to be expected. Re-downloaded, the ranked version and the only part that is censored is http://puu.sh/6Bab and http://puu.sh/6Bai, both is already censored in this version so this is why I think the video is fine.

[Skin]
spinner-background.png http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/158553 ._. no just no, all skin/sb/video/background should be PG-13 This is just a girl helping another girl put her stocking on, and judging by what this visual novel is about on vndb, to go to school? Don't see how this is not PG-13.

[Insane]
00:00:091 - Remove the green line and set the volume of the red line to 80% instead.Done
00:51:807 (7) - I can barely see this slider, i tried about 3 times and it's hard to see it unless you know it's there, the hitbursts are somewhat hiding it and it doesnt contrast with the background http://puu.sh/6zY0 very well. It can easily be fixed by colourhaxing this combo tho.Change to dark orangeish-red

Will try to get eldnl to check his diff / wait for his reply. Also awaiting your opinion on video.

eldnl

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eldnl 2011-10-07T17:22:30+00:00

Sakura Hana wrote:
[eldnL's Hard]
01:07:255 (5,6,7) - The spacing on these is pretty similar to this 00:40:165 (2,3,4) but the former are 3/4 apart each while the later are 1/2 apart hence tripping me as i thought the former would be 1/2 apart as well Really I don't know how I can change this, If you have a suggestion please let me know.

Also I change a big jump in my difficulty, just a little 01:52:031.
~

Download: Sakakibara Yui - Himitsujikake no apple (Short Ver.) (merchat7) [eldnL's Hard].osu

Sakura

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Sakura 2011-10-08T23:01:45+00:00

eldnl: Increase the spacing of those notes a little bit
marchat7: Also you will need to remove this line from every .osu file:

Video,-80,"video.avi"

I'll rebubble afterwards.

merchat7

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merchat7 2011-10-10T17:23:58+00:00

After thinking for a bit, I rather not rank this without video, so I decide to map to the full version instead.

Current changes as of time of this post

SPOILER

[General]
- New mp3, remove storyboard, new combo colors, reenable letterbox during breaks.
- Adjust timing section, preview point and notes to new offset and mp3
- Remove (Short Ver.) from title and add full ver version to tags.
- Minor tweaks to my diffs.

[Astom's Easy]

- 01:44:104 - Repeating slider here instead and remove the spinner so the break start at the same time as other diffs.

[eldnl's Hard]

- Remove a unnecessary timing point

eldnl

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eldnl 2011-10-14T02:05:02+00:00

SERIOUSLY!?

merchat7

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merchat7 2011-10-14T18:18:31+00:00

@eldnl

Yep, main reason why I map short version is so there is a video. No video = no point in mapping the short version imo. There's already a ranked short version with video, don't think many people will want to play the same song, short ver, and without video so I might as well map the full version.

Do you want to map to the full version? If not I can rename to Collab.

eldnl

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eldnl 2011-10-14T18:20:43+00:00

merchat7 wrote:
@eldnl

Yep, main reason why I map short version is so there is a video. No video = no point in mapping the short version imo. There's already a ranked short version with video, don't think many people will want to play the same song, short ver, and without video so I might as well map the full version.

Do you want to map to the full version? If not I can rename to Collab.

FAST ANSWER YESS
Yes I want to make the full version, no problem, but I need a few days.

merchat7

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merchat7 2011-10-14T18:21:30+00:00

lol, insanely fast reply

No problem, take as long as you want

Edit: Update Insane to show where I plan to map.

DerekMcD

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DerekMcD 2012-01-02T05:25:51+00:00

That's all.

~Collab Easy~

01:27:089 (3) - Replace this with a note...
04:13:657 (3) - ^

merchat7

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merchat7 2012-01-05T08:48:22+00:00

Ah, sorry for late reply, didn't expect a mod yet.

About those note, I can't really replace with a hit circle or else the clap pattern breaks here, so I will keep this for now, sorry.

DarknessAngel

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DarknessAngel 2012-03-07T05:38:59+00:00

Why was this map graveyard again :O ?
I'll complete my diff the day after tomorrow

merchat7

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merchat7 2012-03-07T12:59:22+00:00

lol, it's because I didn't update it, it automatically go back to graveyard everyday because of this. Don't want to update yet since unsure about some stuff atm, when I clear them up, I'll update it.

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