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Kei

justnobody wrote:

[Keilara's Razorblade]
wow lv2 grid snap.
normally lv3 is used...
no wonder so many odd spacing issues....
use lv3 grid snap and kill the spacing please.
any spacing below are not related to grid snap.
00:25:888 (1,1) - no new combo. and spacing here.
00:32:049 (1,1,1) - new combo ONLY at the first note here
00:35:531 (3,4,1,2) - spacing
00:41:959 (1,1) - why new combo? don't say you want claps here...
00:46:513 (1,1) - ^
00:50:799 (1,1) - ^
00:52:674 (2,1) - spacing
01:11:156 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - remove (10) and make this stream straight imo.
01:38:209 (1) - no new combo
Fixed! (Now spacing is OK.. I guess .-.). Here's the updated difficulty ~.

Download: Celldweller - Switchback (MercurialSpectre) [Keilara' Razorblade].osu
MoodyRPG
[Normal]

-Maybe Circle Size: -1?

[Keilara' Razorblade]

00:44:638 (1) - New combo
00:45:441 (3) - ^
01:00:174 (6) - ^
01:02:049 (1) - ^

[i_k' Switchback!]

Fine

Star~
Topic Starter
Mercurial

MoodyRPG wrote:

[Normal]

-Maybe Circle Size: -1?

[Keilara' Razorblade]

00:44:638 (1) - New combo
00:45:441 (3) - ^
01:00:174 (6) - ^
01:02:049 (1) - ^

[i_k' Switchback!]

Fine

Star~
Thnks :)

Edit: Done.
Scarlet Sisters
[General]
I think use the various hit sound


[normal]
00:41:959 (3,4,5) It is difficult to Normal
01:11:424 (2,3,4,5,6) The same interval
01:37:941 too short

[i_k'Switchback!]
00:42:495 near?
01:34:459 I do not understand
02:12:227 new combo?


nice map and good song!!
and star~☆
Deif
Hola :3

General:
  1. Los nombres de las dificultades pueden ser confusos, pero se asume que el de Keilara es un Hard y el de Ikari_kyon es un Insane. Además... Keilara' Razorblade / i_k' Switchback!... Si mis clases de inglés no me fallan, para indicar posesión se debería escribir así: Keilara's Razorblade / i_k's Switchback!
  2. Quita esa coma de los Tags (Ikari_kyon Keilara, Dota), las palabras sólo se separan con espacios.
  3. Debes establecer un Preview Point para todas las dificultades (Timing > Set current position as a preview point).
  4. Puede que el fondo sea algo NSFW, considera buscar otro.
  5. Los kiai time son distintos en el mapset. Sugiero que uses el mismo que en el nivel de Ikari para todas las dificultades.
  6. Intenta usar un Beat Snap Divisor de 1/4.
  7. TODOS los hitsounds están altísimos. Baja el volumen al menos al 70%.
  8. Añade hitsounds a las 2 primeras dificultades.
Storyboard:
  1. Si no vas a crear uno, borra el archivo .osb de la carpeta y haz Full Submit.
Normal:
  1. Tiene 4,03 estrellas. Para rankear el mapa esta dificultad tiene que tener menos de 3 estrellas (o reduces su nivel, o tienes que crear un Easy). Sugerencia: Reduce el Slider Velocity, 1,50 es demasiado alto (y además es el mismo que en el Hard).
  2. Chequea el AIMod, hay 11 errores de espaciado. Recuerda que la distancia entre cada nota tiene que ser acorde con el tempo de la melodía.
  3. 00:32:584 (1) - Quita el combo nuevo.
  4. 00:32:852 (1) - ^
  5. 00:40:352 (5) - Quita las repeticiones del slider.
  6. 01:00:174 (1,2,3) - Intenta que no estén debajo del (6) anterior.
  7. 01:11:691 (3) - Igual, intenta que el (1) no esté encima.
Keilara' Razorblade:
  1. Aumenta el Slider Velocity.
  2. Las secciones de Timing 1:06:535 y 1:06:781 no son necesarias.
  3. Approach Rate y Circle Size -1.
  4. 00:43:566 (1) - Quita el nuevo combo.
  5. 00:44:638 (1) - ^
  6. 01:10:620 (1) - ^
i_k' Switchback!:
  1. Circle Size y Overall Difficulty +1.
  2. No es necesario silenciar tanto el último spin.
Los mapas aún están un poco verdes... Te sugiero que juegues con las simetrías y que pulas un poco esos sliders. Aparte de la jugabilidad, se agradece un buen diseño =)

Creo que no está todavía para estrella, lo siento ;___;
OzzyOzrock
[Normal]
Tu spacing esta muy mal... estas usando distance snap? Recomiendo que uses eso, por favor ;_;

00:32:316 (1,1,1) - No hagas este tipo de combo spam :<

Uh, solo haz eso y sera mucho mejor el mapa :3
[Razorblade]
Solo lo mismo sobre distance snap. Aunque se ve mejor aqui.

La dificultad esta muy alta ;;
[Switchback]
Esto esta mucho mejor, pero todavia hay unos errores de spacing.

Usa AIMod por ayuda, aunque no tanto.

No olvides definir un punto de preview, y por favor corta el MP3 porque no lo usas todo...
jossieP

Scarlet Sisters wrote:

[i_k'Switchback!]
00:42:495 near?near?
01:34:459 I do not understand Too closer?
02:12:227 new combo? why?


nice map and good song!!
and star~☆ thanks n.n

Deif wrote:

Hola :3
i_k' Switchback!:
  1. Circle Size y Overall Difficulty +1. :/
  2. No es necesario silenciar tanto el último spin. me gustan los spins silenciosos :/ ademas ahi termina el mapp no?
Los mapas aún están un poco verdes... Te sugiero que juegues con las simetrías y que pulas un poco esos sliders. Aparte de la jugabilidad, se agradece un buen diseño =)

Creo que no está todavía para estrella, lo siento ;___; :(
Download: Celldweller - Switchback (MercurialSpectre) [i_k' Switchback!].osu
Deif

ikari_kyon wrote:

Deif wrote:

Hola :3
  1. No es necesario silenciar tanto el último spin. me gustan los spins silenciosos :/ ademas ahi termina el mapp no?
Ahí termina el map, pero la canción continúa. Si se hubiera terminado la canción sí sería lícito usar un 5% de volumen en ese spin. Considera también aumentar tus parámetros, la dificultad es demasiado fácil para ser un Insane.

Deberías mirar el mod general que hice, ya que sin el preview point y con los hitsounds tan altos esta dificultad no se puede rankear.

Aprovecho para decir que deberías usar un patrón de claps más estable para tu dificultad, ahora parece bastante aleatorio. Escucha bien la canción y verás que la misma melodía te pide que introduzcas claps en sitios determinados.

Eso, nada más ;)
Topic Starter
Mercurial

Deif wrote:

Hola :3


[*]Puede que el fondo sea algo NSFW, considera buscar otro. Si no dijeron nada antes, no creo que digan algo ahora. (Ademas de ser el único que encontré adecuado y con medidas exactas)


[*]Tiene 4,03 estrellas. Para rankear el mapa esta dificultad tiene que tener menos de 3 estrellas (o reduces su nivel, o tienes que crear un Easy). Sinceramente, hay muchas canciones que fueron rankeadas en Hard, así que no veo porqué la mía no... Ej: Hatsune Miku - Packaged
Kei

Deif wrote:

Keilara' Razorblade:
  1. Aumenta el Slider Velocity. Esto no lo cambié. Me gusta como está .-.
  2. Las secciones de Timing 1:06:535 y 1:06:781 no son necesarias. Quitadas
  3. Approach Rate y Circle Size -1. Cambiado.
  4. 00:43:566 (1) - Quita el nuevo combo. Listo
  5. 00:44:638 (1) - ^ Listo
  6. 01:10:620 (1) - ^ Listo
Updated Difficulty - Changes: Design, fixed some spacing and added Deif mod changes.

Download: Celldweller - Switchback (MercurialSpectre) [Keilara' Razorblade].osu
Topic Starter
Mercurial

Keilara wrote:

Deif wrote:

Keilara' Razorblade:
  1. Aumenta el Slider Velocity. Esto no lo cambié. Me gusta como está .-.
  2. Las secciones de Timing 1:06:535 y 1:06:781 no son necesarias. Quitadas
  3. Approach Rate y Circle Size -1. Cambiado.
  4. 00:43:566 (1) - Quita el nuevo combo. Listo
  5. 00:44:638 (1) - ^ Listo
  6. 01:10:620 (1) - ^ Listo
Updated Difficulty - Changes: Design, fixed some spacing and added Deif mod changes.

Kate, siempre superándose.
ziin
Celldweller? Sweet. Starred because I want more people to make celldweller stuff.

[general]
Decide on how long you want the map. I recommend cutting the song at 02:37:138 - and add a bit of fade to the end. Don't forget to re-encode from a high quality version. I think 160 kbps is the best compromise between quality and size. If you want me to do this for you, pm me.

I'm a bit disappointed you didn't map the klayton edit; I'm pretty sure that one's free and it's a heck of a lot faster.

your kiai time is off. Kiai usually highlights the chorus, which is right AFTER where you have your current kiai. Save it for the last chorus of your edit of the song. Insane has it almost right, except it needs to start on beat 1 (long white tick).

[easy]
you need one. Can I make it?

[normal]
total play length: 56s is too short. Start from the beginning, like insane does and map the whole thing (up to 2:30)
00:26:959 (4) - Curve your sliders some. 0.8x spacing means you have to curve the sliders to make them the same "spacing" as the regular notes, and they look better.
00:30:174 (1) - don't put sliders under other sliders. Overlapping sliders is ugly.
00:34:995 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - boring. Follow the lyrics or the background.
00:41:424 (2) - bad slider
In general all the notes are on the beat, but there's a lot of offbeat stuff in the song you're not bringing out.

[razorblade]
this name is ambiguous
map would be better with a higher slider speed and careful attention to your sliders. More Hitsounds are a must as well. I'm sorry you won't increase the slider speed, since maps are a lot easier to read if they are more spread out.

[switchback]
00:01:379 - add note
00:01:647 (2) - delete
00:02:450 - add
00:14:504 (4) - delete
00:15:575 (2) - ^
00:26:290 (2) - ^
00:29:906 (1,2) - circle slider circle
00:31:379 (3,4) - slider
00:31:781 (5) - http://puu.sh/2on3
00:33:388 (2) - add repeat
00:34:727 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is very confusing
00:44:236 - add
00:44:504 (2) - delete
01:05:397 (2,4) - delete
01:07:674 (3) - delete
02:19:727 (2,4,1) - move 1 blue tick before
I'm tired of telling you what to delete. Hopefully you get how to map to the song and not your own rhythm you made up.

Making a beatmap isn't easy, and there's a lot of things you have to do in order to make a good one. Please listen to the song on 25% to double check if there is a note in the song where you have a questionable beat. Make your sliders symmetrical and curved. Listen for the drums in the background for queues on what hitsound to use. You'll get better at mapping as you play more good maps. This isn't even close to being ready for rank. Put it back in WIP until you have mapped the whole thing and cut the song properly.
winber1
General

--Volume seems way too loud imo
--You should start kiai time on a note, not in between them.
--kiai times are different.
--I would highly recommend you map the same things as i_k's switchback. This mapset feels really weird when the diffs end the way they do. I would also advise you to use the same kiai times as i_k's, or at least do not use the weird kiai times used in normal and keilara's

i_k' Switchback


00:37:138 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - I don't know why you used such large spacing here out of the blue. It does not fit and does not make sense imo. Although I seemed to have read it correctly, it doesn't feel correct
00:17:049 (x) - add a note
00:21:602 (1) - start right on top of combo 2 from previous combo?
01:25:352 (1) - remove combo?
01:27:495 (1) - ^
01:28:566 (1) - ^
01:32:316 (1) - start right on top of combo 2 from previous combo?
02:06:602 (5) - new combo
02:06:870 (1) - remove combo
02:21:066 (5,6) - i would move this a little further away from each other
02:28:299 (2) - this note looks weird right under combo 1
02:32:718 (1) - end spinner here

There's nothing that isn't readable, but there's a lot of weird overlaps and spacing changes imo.

keilara's

I find the spacing too small.

00:34:459 (1) - this whole kiai section does really make sense imo. 1) this shouldn't even be a kiai section imo. it's not even epic D: 2)the increase in spacing doesn't make much sense to me either, cuz the intensity of the music actually decreases here, so I wouldn't even increase spacing.
[00:39:013 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - if you keep this spacing change i'm fine with it because the music does get more tense here and it's reaching some sort of climax]
00:48:388 (1) - remove combo
00:57:763 (1) - ^
01:02:049 (1) - ^
01:13:031 (x) - add note?
01:30:709 (1) - same as 00:34:459

Normal

--This difficulty is 3.9 stars. You need a difficulty wiht somehwere around 3 stars or less to be ranked. You either need to make this a lot easier or make another difficulty.

00:40:352 (2,1) - i would space out better.
00:41:424 (2) - Snap to the red tick. Why are you even using purple ticks?
00:54:281 (3,4) - spacing.
01:09:816 (1,1) - spinner is way too short, and the note comes way too soon as well.
01:13:031 (x) - add note?
01:23:477 (4,1) - spacing.
01:27:227 (3,4) - i do not like using these types of spacing in a normal difficulty.
01:33:924 (4) - move somewhere else. It may confuse beginner players imo.
01:37:941 (1) - spinner is too short

I did not comment on a lot of overlaps and spacings, but I would suggest you rethink some of the shapes and spacing. (i only commented on some in normal because I am really strict on spacing on easier diffs and I almost never deviate from the spacing unless the music provokes some sort of change)

Nice map! :3

but stilll does not feel as ready as it could be
Kei

ziin wrote:

[razorblade]
this name is ambiguous D:! But I like it .-.
map would be better with a higher slider speed and careful attention to your sliders. More Hitsounds are a must as well. I'm sorry you won't increase the slider speed, since maps are a lot easier to read if they are more spread out. Added more Hitsounds

winber1 wrote:

keilara's

I find the spacing too small. D:!

00:34:459 (1) - this whole kiai section does really make sense imo. 1) this shouldn't even be a kiai section imo. it's not even epic D: 2)the increase in spacing doesn't make much sense to me either, cuz the intensity of the music actually decreases here, so I wouldn't even increase spacing. Removed the spacing increase & Changed Kiai section
[00:39:013 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - if you keep this spacing change i'm fine with it because the music does get more tense here and it's reaching some sort of climax] Changed some notes spacing with this one
00:48:388 (1) - remove combo Removed
00:57:763 (1) - ^ Removed
01:02:049 (1) - ^ Removed
01:13:031 (x) - add note? Added
01:30:709 (1) - same as 00:34:459 Fixed


[Keilara's Razorblade Updated] :D

Download: Celldweller - Switchback (MercurialSpectre) [Keilara's Razorblade].osu
Thunderstorm
Greetings
Mod as you requested.
Some suggestions

[Overall]
Volume of the hitsounds is really waaaay to loud. I'd suggest to reduce it down to ~60%
White combo colour can be a barrier to rank this stuff. No, it's not unranked option, but BAT's/MAT's really can ask you to change it.

[Normal]

Oh, only a 56 second's to play? I'd suggest to map it equal to the [i_k' Switchback]'s length
00:41:424 (2) - increase 1/6
00:41:959 (3) - 1/4 forward
Or better
00:41:424 (2) - reduce 1/6
00:41:825 - note here
00:41:959 (3) - 1/4 forward
01:09:816 - this spinner is really short for a Normal difficulty. I'd suggest to replace it with some notes.
Or, if you want to keep it
01:10:888 (1) - Recovering after spinners is one of the tougher skills for newbies to master. Seeing as this is the easiest difficulty, maybe consider removing this?
01:25:888 and 01:26:156 - add a note?
01:37:941 - this spinner is really short for a Normal difficulty. I'd suggest to replace it with some notes.

[Keilara' Razorblade]
Same as [Normal], maybe consider to map it equal to [i_k' Switchback] length?
01:02:584 (3) - increase 1/6
01:03:388 (4) - move 1/2 forward?
01:29:236 (2) - increase 1/6
01:37:138 (5,6) - wow, what a mess. I'd suggest to:
01:37:138 (5) - increase 1/6
01:37:540 - put a note here
01:37:674 (7) - move 1/4 forward

[i_k' Switchback]
Whole spacing on this difficulty looks random. Maybe consider to space it properly?
00:17:584 (break) and incoming breaks - This make no sense =\ I'd suggest to put a full-length break here, or map whole that part.
00:37:138 (1 - ) Kinda really random. I'd suggest to space this jump section properly, if you want to keep it.
01:11:156 (2, 3, 4) - Maybe make it kinda like this: 2+3 -> move 3 grid down to place 2 under start of 1
01:11:557 (4) - 2 grid down
01:11:691 (5) - 2 grid down, 1 grid right
01:30:709 (break) and incoming breaks - This make no sense =\ I'd suggest to put a full-length break here, or map whole that part.

That's all
Topic Starter
Mercurial
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Topic Starter
Mercurial
Let the mods continue... :D
Kanon
Sry for the late.
General
The diff name is rly confusing. Try to make it clear its a hard diff or insane diff.
You only made one diff by your own. To get ranked ,you must have two diff by your own.
if you dont map the whole song you need to cut the mp3..

Normal
Its too boring and easy. So I suggest you change it to easy. Use large circle and AR OA HP drain below 2.

and you need to map a new normal diff by your own.then you can reach the rank standard.

Keilara's Razorblade
I assume its a hard diff
i suggest you use higher distance snap. cus the song only have 115BPM. And add some jumps plz, or its rly no fun to play this diff.
this diff stil need lots work on it.

i_k' Switchback!
It is a nice and fun diff. didn't find any bad.

i didn't mod in deep cus i think you need to change lots thing in your map.So sry about that.
This is more like suggestions.
No kudo for this ,thx
Topic Starter
Mercurial

Kanon wrote:

Normal
Its too boring and easy. So I suggest you change it to easy. Use large circle and AR OA HP drain below 2.

and you need to map a new normal diff by your own.then you can reach the rank standard.
Maybe you should think that the above normal difficulty, it had 4 stars of difficulty ... So from 4 to 2.78 points of difficulty, it is much easier for those who could not play the previous ...


Pd: Sorry for my bad level of english...
Topic Starter
Mercurial

ziin wrote:

I'm a bit disappointed you didn't map the klayton edit; I'm pretty sure that one's free and it's a heck of a lot faster
In a future project, I'll be glad for mapping Celldweller - Switchback (Razorblade Remix by Neuroticfish), That be like a Dream <3
LesTrucsRoses
Normal
00:00:174 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Gradually decrease the hitsound's volume. [Example]
00:04:995 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^

00:16:513 (5) - Move down by 3 gridspaces and to the left by 1.
00:16:781 (6) - Move left by 2 gridspaces.

00:33:388 (2) - Finish hitsound on the last part of the slider.
00:43:031 - You usually want to start/stop Kiai times on a beat. I suggest you start it at 00:51:602 and end it at 01:09:281.
01:10:888 (1,2,3,4) - Move forward by a tick on 1/2 BSD.
01:38:745 (1,2) - These beats are being overlapped.

Finish mapping this difficulty (or cut the mp3), and add more hitsounds.

Keilara's Razorblade
!! the beats and sliders seem too close together. This is a hard/insane map, increase the distance snap and resnap it. !!

00:31:513 (2) - Shorten this slider by 1 tick on 1/4 BSD, then move it forward by 1 tick.
01:03:388 (4) - Move forward by 1 tick on 1/8 BSD.

01:04:191 (5) - Move left by 3 gridspaces, then move up by 2 gridspaces.
01:37:406 (6) - Can't see if this is a new slider or a repeat. move it.
02:15:709 (1,2,3) - Unrankable sliders.

02:19:459 (1) - Move forward by 2 ticks on 1/8 BSD.
02:23:745 (4) - Hidden by the slider.

i_k' Switchback!
no problems found. you learn from this man, MercurialSpectre!
Kei

LesTrucsRose wrote:

00:31:513 (2) - Shorten this slider by 1 tick on 1/4 BSD, then move it forward by 1 tick. Edited
01:03:388 (4) - Move forward by 1 tick on 1/8 BSD. Moved
01:04:191 (5) - Move left by 3 gridspaces, then move up by 2 gridspaces. Remapped
01:37:406 (6) - Can't see if this is a new slider or a repeat. move it. Moved (Remapped)
02:15:709 (1,2,3) - Unrankable sliders. Changed them with rankable ones.
02:19:459 (1) - Move forward by 2 ticks on 1/8 BSD. Moved
02:23:745 (4) - Hidden by the slider. Fixed

Kanon wrote:

Keilara's Razorblade
I assume its a hard diff Yeah it is.
i suggest you use higher distance snap. cus the song only have 115BPM. And add some jumps plz, or its rly no fun to play this diff. Changed distance snap to 1,4 and added jumps. Now it's better.. I think..
this diff stil need lots work on it. It's really so bad? I'm seriously doing my best..
Keilara's Razorblade Updated with more Distance Spacing (1,4), jumps and LesTrucsRose mod changes.
(Remapped design again).


Download: Celldweller - Switchback (MercurialSpectre) [Keilara's Razorblade].osu
Topic Starter
Mercurial

LesTrucsRose wrote:

00:00:174 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Gradually decrease the hitsound's volume. [Example]
00:04:995 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^

00:16:513 (5) - Move down by 3 gridspaces and to the left by 1.
00:16:781 (6) - Move left by 2 gridspaces.

00:33:388 (2) - Finish hitsound on the last part of the slider.
00:43:031 - You usually want to start/stop Kiai times on a beat. I suggest you start it at 00:51:602 and end it at 01:09:281.
01:10:888 (1,2,3,4) - Move forward by a tick on 1/2 BSD.
01:38:745 (1,2) - These beats are being overlapped.

Finish mapping this difficulty (or cut the mp3), and add more hitsounds.


no problems found. you learn from this man, MercurialSpectre!
I'm Learning now :)


Thnks 4 mod :D
jossieP

ziin wrote:

[switchback]
00:01:379 - add note
00:01:647 (2) - delete
00:02:450 - add
00:14:504 (4) - delete
00:15:575 (2) - ^
00:26:290 (2) - ^
00:29:906 (1,2) - circle slider circle
00:31:379 (3,4) - slider
00:31:781 (5) - http://puu.sh/2on3
00:33:388 (2) - add repeat
00:34:727 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is very confusing
00:44:236 - add
00:44:504 (2) - delete
01:05:397 (2,4) - delete
01:07:674 (3) - delete
02:19:727 (2,4,1) - move 1 blue tick before
I'm tired of telling you what to delete. Hopefully you get how to map to the song and not your own rhythm you made up.
DON'T YOU WANT I DELETE MY GUEST DIFF????????? I just ignore this mod u.u
.

winber1 wrote:


i_k' Switchback


00:37:138 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - I don't know why you used such large spacing here out of the blue. It does not fit and does not make sense imo. Although I seemed to have read it correctly, it doesn't feel correct This is a double spacing part, and because of it is more "difficulty" I used sliders, and I can read it correctly
00:17:049 (x) - add a note yup
00:21:602 (1) - start right on top of combo 2 from previous combo? I dont get it right but I think this could be better
01:25:352 (1) - remove combo? yup
01:27:495 (1) - ^ nup
01:28:566 (1) - ^ yup
01:32:316 (1) - start right on top of combo 2 from previous combo? as explain on 00:21:602 (1)
02:06:602 (5) - new combo nup
02:06:870 (1) - remove combo nup
02:21:066 (5,6) - i would move this a little further away from each other done?
02:28:299 (2) - this note looks weird right under combo 1 and now?
02:32:718 (1) - end spinner here yup

There's nothing that isn't readable, but there's a lot of weird overlaps and spacing changes imo.
What is "imo"? x3 srry my english is very basic and I can't understand some things

Thunderstorm wrote:

[i_k' Switchback]
Whole spacing on this difficulty looks random. Maybe consider to space it properly? Its not random, I have changed the distance snap at some combos
00:17:584 (break) and incoming breaks - This make no sense =\ I'd suggest to put a full-length break here, or map whole that part. I like this, and just following the song
00:37:138 (1 - ) Kinda really random. I'd suggest to space this jump section properly, if you want to keep it. I keep it like that
01:11:156 (2, 3, 4) - Maybe make it kinda like this: 2+3 -> move 3 grid down to place 2 under start of 1 what? xD
01:11:557 (4) - 2 grid down ?
01:11:691 (5) - 2 grid down, 1 grid right ?
01:30:709 (break) and incoming breaks - This make no sense =\ I'd suggest to put a full-length break here, or map whole that part.
Like before explain
That's all
thanks n.n

Kanon wrote:

i_k' Switchback!
It is a nice and fun diff. didn't find any bad.
really? O.O

LesTrucsRose wrote:

no problems found. you learn from this man, MercurialSpectre!
why me? xD Im just a n00b mapper
Download: Celldweller - Switchback (MercurialSpectre) [i_k' Switchback!].osu
-Lennox-
Finde dude mog go!


[Normal]

01:07:138 (1,2,1) - I highly suggest you to remove those sliders. They are pretty hard for the easyiest diff.
01:59:906 (1,1) - The spacing between the spinner ending and the next circle is pretty high. Thats hard to play. So remove the note or shorter the spinner

[Keilara's Razorblade]

Well just one thing i suggest you. Re-map the whloe map with an higher spacing! (press ALT and you see at the right corner the spacing.. put it higher)

[ik' Switchback]

Well it plays really good but the map itself looks pretty ugly D: Try to put more symmetrie in the map. And make it delicious~



If you re-map the Keilara's Razorblade diff call me back and i'll recheck the map.

gl!
Topic Starter
Mercurial

LesTrucsRose wrote:

00:00:174 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Gradually decrease the hitsound's volume. [Example]
00:04:995 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^[/color] Done
00:16:513 (5) - Move down by 3 gridspaces and to the left by 1.
00:16:781 (6) - Move left by 2 gridspaces.[/color] Done
00:33:388 (2) - Finish hitsound on the last part of the slider. Done
00:43:031 - You usually want to start/stop Kiai times on a beat. I suggest you start it at 00:51:602 and end it at 01:09:281. I'll don't do that
01:10:888 (1,2,3,4) - Move forward by a tick on 1/2 BSD. ?
01:38:745 (1,2) - These beats are being overlapped. Done

Finish mapping this difficulty (or cut the mp3), and add more hitsounds. Later
ziin
blam. (don't kudosu guest difficulties fyi)

Hit sound volumes aren't exactly final, I'll try to match whatever you end up with.

Hopefully nobody will mind spacing errors on such a slow song, but I really liked them.

Download: Celldweller - Switchback (MercurialSpectre) [ziin's Easy].osu
Kei

-Lennox- wrote:

[Keilara's Razorblade]

Well just one thing i suggest you. Re-map the whloe map with an higher spacing! (press ALT and you see at the right corner the spacing.. put it higher) !
More higher? o.o
OzzyOzrock
Creo que esta pidiendo que lo mapees con un distance spacing mas alto lol
Kei

OzzyOzrock wrote:

Creo que esta pidiendo que lo mapees con un distance spacing mas alto lol
Si lo se xD Pero o.o mas? no está bien asi? o.o
Kei
Updated [Keilara's Razorblade] with a little more distance spacing. Now it has 1,7 spacing instead of 1,4.

Download: Celldweller - Switchback (MercurialSpectre) [Keilara's Razorblade].osu
ziin
Keilara, no necesita cambiar si no quiere.

Pienso que sus deslizadores son demasiado lento. (1.50 slider speed con BPM 112 esta muy lento). En general, distance spacing debe ser 1.2x-0.8x, segun el mapa.

Trata slider speed 2.00 y 0.8x a 1.2x spacing. Si se gusta, cambialo, pero ahora esta bien. Solo necesita usar mas simetria en el mapa.
Topic Starter
Mercurial

ziin wrote:

Keilara, no necesita cambiar si no quiere.

Pienso que sus deslizadores son demasiado lento. (1.50 slider speed con BPM 112 esta muy lento). En general, distance spacing debe ser 1.2x-0.8x, segun el mapa.

Trata slider speed 2.00 y 0.8x a 1.2x spacing. Si se gusta, cambialo, pero ahora esta bien. Solo necesita usar mas simetria en el mapa.

xDDDD Ponele que tu español es de un traductor, pero no importa. Gracias por esforzarte <3
ziin

MercurialSpectre wrote:

xDDDD Ponele que tu español es de un traductor, pero no importa. Gracias por esforzarte <3
Es de 5 anos de espanol en la escuela. No es perfecto ahora, y hay unas palabras que no recuerdo y uso un dictionario.
Topic Starter
Mercurial

ziin wrote:

MercurialSpectre wrote:

xDDDD Ponele que tu español es de un traductor, pero no importa. Gracias por esforzarte <3
Es de 5 anos de espanol en la escuela. No es perfecto ahora, y hay unas palabras que no recuerdo y uso un dictionario.
Mi inglés también es una porquería, pero bueno, al menos nos entendemos :D

New Edit 13/06/2011: Please, Re-Download this Beatmap
OzzyOzrock
[Easy]
I don't think spacing increases like the ones present in the map are that fitting for an easy.

01:34:459 (1) - Cool slider, but uh, I don't know...
02:29:370 (1,2) - Hurr too close ;_;

But very good job.
[Normall]
Los hitsounds no suenan muy bien... son muy inconsistentes (lol) y casi nunca siguen un rithmo. La dificultad de ziin es un buen ejemplo.

01:10:620 (1,2,3,4) - Creo que mejor deberias cambiar esta parte a algo que sigue el rithmo...
01:38:745 (1) - esto un grid para abajo =w=

Pero... esta bien ;_;
[Kei]
Lol, talvez si deberias subirle mas al SV y no al distance spacing, porque de todas maneras el distance snap 1.00 se... uh... cumplira con el S.V. lol. Talvez 2.3 o algo aci. Es un hard, verdad?

Asi que arregla eso orz (no se si me gusta mejor que el de antes lol)
[i_k]
Demasiado flojo para chequear esto, pero se me hace estar bien ;_;

Buena suerte =w=
ziin

OzzyOzrock wrote:

[Easy]
I don't think spacing increases like the ones present in the map are that fitting for an easy.

01:34:459 (1) - Cool slider, but uh, I don't know...
02:29:370 (1,2) - Hurr too close ;_;

But very good job.
If I get a second vote for the spacing errors you mentioned, I'll fix (first and last ones are on purpose, middle one was kinda unavoidable).
As for the slider, I made some switchbacks. I like it too much, and it's pretty slow, so it's easy to follow.
Topic Starter
Mercurial
In few words... This map have your aprovation :)
akrolsmir
Modding from queue:

General:
Add "ziin" to all tags. Also, what's Dota? (I think of Basshunter's song, but that can't be right...)
Is that thing in the background a guy or a girl? It has a masculine aura, but the body...

ziin's Easy (oh hi ziin):
00:17:316 (1) - That's a lot of nodes to get something flat... use a red point instead? Or even better, make it curvy somehow on the end similar to 00:19:459 (2). I like the sharp angle close to the end of that one.
00:26:959 (1,2,1,1) - Either combo as (1,1,1,1) or (1,2,1,2) for consistency
00:29:102 (2) - Copy of (1) instead? Like the next 2 notes.
00:34:459 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - o.O increasing distance spacing in an Easy. Oh well, I like it myself.
00:49:459 (1,2,3,4) - Square feels out of place
01:10:888 (3) - Since most other sliders repeat exactly once, try this instead?

01:34:459 (1) - Lots of switchbacks :D
01:49:727 (3) - Path looks cramped- too close to (2). Same for 01:54:013 (3)
02:28:031 (1,1,2) - ^ And the stacking of (1,2) causes similar things.

Normal:
00:03:924 (8) - Move 1/2 beat forward, and place another circle 1/2 beat after this? I think it would match "switchback" better.
00:08:209 (7) - ^
00:12:227- Circle? Maybe make a line with (this, 4, 5)
00:28:834 (1,2,3) - Make this a copy of the pattern before, or move (2) so that the pattern flows smooth instead of being cut, like:
00:36:066 (3), 00:38:209 (3) - Pick one and make the other a copy
00:43:031- Kiai burst on a break...?
00:57:763 (1,2,3,4) - Doesn't match vocals. Try:

00:59:906 (5) - Length feels weird, try:

01:08:477 (1) - Feels like there ought to be a beat in the center, with a repeat or a shorter slider or sth.
01:10:620 (1,2,3,4) - see 00:57:763 (1,2,3,4)
01:29:102 (2) - Make symmetric
01:30:977 (2) - ^
01:33:120 (3) - ^
02:25:620 (1) - End at 02:27:495
02:27:763 (1,2,1,2) - Try and get these parallel. And I don't like how the last note is hidden, try expanding and continuing the pattern.

Keilara's Razorblade:
Many of the short, curved sliders are not symmetric or are too sharp, fix please. It feels like you didn't put too much effort into those, which is a pity because the designed sliders were very nice.

00:29:236 (3) - Doesn't belong IMO, delete?
00:30:977 (1,2) - Make one a copy of the other
00:51:602 (1,2) - Neither is particularly pretty but ^. The sliders at 00:43:566 (2,3) - and 00:47:316 (1,2) - were much neater.
01:11:156 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Compress the stream? Also 9 stacking w/ 8 felt out of place.
01:47:316 (1,2) - Try making the second and fourth nodes red for a more distinct shape. Also make one a copy of the other.
01:51:066 (7,8,9) - Make an equilateral triangle
02:19:325 (1,2,3,4,5) - Try using 1/2 the spacing
02:27:897 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Compress again

i_k' Switchback:
Rename to "i_k's Switchback".
Placement of notes, sliders seemed very random

00:33:924 (3) - Use .5x slider velocity here too.
01:34:459 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Try increasing the spacing by a constant amount.
02:06:870 (1,2,3) - Increase the jump

Overall, the styles varied a lot with 3 guest diffs. Some were more organized than others... Anyways, starred.
ziin

akrolsmir wrote:

Is that thing in the background a guy or a girl? It has a masculine aura, but the body... That's the reason for this note: 00:29:102 (2) and the lyrics at that point

ziin's Easy (oh hi ziin):
00:17:316 (1) - That's a lot of nodes to get something flat... use a red point instead? Or even better, make it curvy somehow on the end similar to 00:19:459 (2). I like the sharp angle close to the end of that one. I'm mapping to the background (*gasp*) so it follows the curves of the body and the wing. I did add more nodes though, as I wasn't all that picky when I made it.
00:26:959 (1,2,1,1) - Either combo as (1,1,1,1) or (1,2,1,2) for consistency oo, copy/paste error there. fixed
00:34:459 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - o.O increasing distance spacing in an Easy. Oh well, I like it myself. I'm torn because I like it so much, even though I know it's wrong.
00:49:459 (1,2,3,4) - Square feels out of place So something not symmetrical? I was leading up to the spinner.
01:10:888 (3) - Since most other sliders repeat exactly once, try this instead? I want to have a beat on those notes, so I need a long slider.
01:49:727 (3) - Path looks cramped- too close to (2). Same for 01:54:013 (3)
02:28:031 (1,1,2) - ^ And the stacking of (1,2) causes similar things.
I don't follow

They look fine to me. The last one is an anti-jump, sure.
many thanks, I'm surprised I had anything to fix. I thought I did a really good job on this...

Download: Celldweller - Switchback (MercurialSpectre) [ziin's Easy].osu
Kei

akrolsmir wrote:

Keilara's Razorblade:
Many of the short, curved sliders are not symmetric or are too sharp, fix please. It feels like you didn't put too much effort into those, which is a pity because the designed sliders were very nice. <- This make me very happy ;U;

00:29:236 (3) - Doesn't belong IMO, delete? Deleted
00:30:977 (1,2) - Make one a copy of the other Remapped
00:51:602 (1,2) - Neither is particularly pretty but ^. The sliders at 00:43:566 (2,3) - and 00:47:316 (1,2) - were much neater. Changed
01:11:156 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Compress the stream? Also 9 stacking w/ 8 felt out of place. Compressed
01:47:316 (1,2) - Try making the second and fourth nodes red for a more distinct shape. Also make one a copy of the other. Remapped
01:51:066 (7,8,9) - Make an equilateral triangle ^
02:19:325 (1,2,3,4,5) - Try using 1/2 the spacing ^
02:27:897 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Compress again Compressed
I remapped everything again! >_>''
Increased Slider Velocity to 2.40, and reduced spacing to 1.4.
Download: Celldweller - Switchback (MercurialSpectre) [Keilara's Razorblade].osu

Topic Starter
Mercurial
Actualizaré todo el Lunes

I'll update it at Monday :3
jossieP

akrolsmir wrote:

Modding from queue:
i_k' Switchback:
Placement of notes, sliders seemed very random Maybe thats my style? x3

00:33:924 (3) - Use .5x slider velocity here too. owenrqweiry
01:34:459 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Try increasing the spacing by a constant amount. encoiprsu
02:06:870 (1,2,3) - Increase the jump =O

Overall, the styles varied a lot with 3 guest diffs. Some were more organized than others... Anyways, starred. I know our styles are varied, but I think this made more fun
Download: Celldweller - Switchback (MercurialSpectre) [i_k' Switchback!].osu
akrolsmir
Forgot to actually star, whoops. Also, don't forget the tags (add ziin) and maybe put an "s" after the apostrophe for i_k's difficulty.
Topic Starter
Mercurial
Updated :D
p3n
[General]
No preview points set

[Normal]
I think it suits the song much better to map the beat more constantly, especially during the first KIAI. Those huge and random breaks because you mainly follow the lyrics are not very fitting imo. You can add a lot more notes to this map as the score and "feeling" is more like an "Easy" right now. Should be OK as long as you won't go over 2m or 4 stars. Put in some more 1/2 notes and map more of what you hear + the constant beat.

00:04:995 / 00:06:066 / 00:07:138 - The volume change for the hitsounds sounds very weird here imo. Stick to ~40-50% for non KIAI and ~60% your KIAI/"Chorus" sections

00:07:674 (7,8,1) - unnecessary jump/anti-jump
00:11:424 (4) - this slider ending would be unsnapped if you change the beat snap divisor. Move the end-point much closer to the actual ending of the slider.
00:12:227 (5,1) - anti-jump
00:26:691 (1,2,3) - messy spacing, disable grid-snap to place this or use grid lvl 4
00:28:834 (1,2,3) - ^
00:33:388 (2) - makes no sense to silence the slider beginning and turning point here oO
01:11:691 (3,4,5) - not in line with previous notes
01:38:745 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - maybe use some sliders here to break up the boring 1/1 circles?
01:42:227 (X) - add a note here? (Maybe turn the three notes into a repeat-slider)
01:46:245 (2) - shorten by 1/2 and add 1x repeat
02:21:602 (1) - start en end on the big white ticks

Some examples of "more notes":
02:07:674 (X) - add note
02:08:209 (X) - ^
02:10:352 (X) - ^
02:15:174 (X) - ^

[Keilara's Razorblade]
General things:
- 1/8 snapping is absolutely unnecessary for this song. Don't use it (slider endings that are 1/8 off are "wrong" anyway)
- Avoid confusing and sometimes impossible to read spacings. I think you just overdid the "MOAR SPACING!!!1" mods a bit ;) The song is only 112 BPM and thus 1/4 streams are possible to tap. Some players however prefer to use two keys even for relatively slow streams like in this song. The random spacing here makes this map actually harder than the "insane" version (and not much fun to play)

I suggest using 1,0x or 1,1x spacing for notefollows and add jump patterns only where they fit the song. Just make sure everything is still very readable.

01:11:156 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - It's ok to compress this stream but increasing the spacing randomly for (9,10) is just weird
01:11:959 (7) - delete this note as it doesn't fit very well imo, also adjust the compressed spacing to the whole combo as mentioned above: http://puu.sh/2QkX
01:27:093 (2) - 1/8 snapped slider ending doesn't fit in any way here
01:37:138 (5) - ^
01:39:013 (X) - add note
01:43:834 (X) - ^
02:06:334 (1,2) - switch (1) and (2), circle on red tick (where (1) started before), start slider on big white tick (end where (2) was before)
02:19:459 (2,3,4,5) - this is extremely annoying to play if the spacing is so random: the sliders are a lot slower than the "jumps" between them. Just stick to 1,0x spacing for slider-streams.

[i_k' Switchback]
Hitsound volume is annoying! Reduce to 60% at least. Better 50%.
Very inconsistent spacing throughout the map. Seems you switched from 0,8x to 0,6x and back to 0,7x/0,8x by accident.
The grid-size you used would be ok for very symmetric patterns but as you use many curves and circle-patterns, you should disable grid-snapping and work with x/y coords, [Ctrl]-snapping and pay attention to your distance-spacings.

The later parts of this map are very decent but the ~first half needs a lot of work.



You didn't follow the rules in my modding queue but I like the song so here is your ~star
Kei

p3n wrote:

[Keilara's Razorblade]
General things:
- 1/8 snapping is absolutely unnecessary for this song. Don't use it (slider endings that are 1/8 off are "wrong" anyway) Changed to 1/6 snapping
- Avoid confusing and sometimes impossible to read spacings. I think you just overdid the "MOAR SPACING!!!1" mods a bit ;) The song is only 112 BPM and thus 1/4 streams are possible to tap. Some players however prefer to use two keys even for relatively slow streams like in this song. The random spacing here makes this map actually harder than the "insane" version (and not much fun to play) Yeah ;_; my bad

I suggest using 1,0x or 1,1x spacing for notefollows and add jump patterns only where they fit the song. Just make sure everything is still very readable. Remapped everything again with 1,0 spacing.

01:11:156 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - It's ok to compress this stream but increasing the spacing randomly for (9,10) is just weird Fixed
01:11:959 (7) - delete this note as it doesn't fit very well imo, also adjust the compressed spacing to the whole combo as mentioned above: http://puu.sh/2QkX Compressed like in the img and deleted note
01:27:093 (2) - 1/8 snapped slider ending doesn't fit in any way here Fixed
01:37:138 (5) - ^ Fixed
01:39:013 (X) - add note Added
01:43:834 (X) - ^ Added
02:06:334 (1,2) - switch (1) and (2), circle on red tick (where (1) started before), start slider on big white tick (end where (2) was before) Changed
02:19:459 (2,3,4,5) - this is extremely annoying to play if the spacing is so random: the sliders are a lot slower than the "jumps" between them. Just stick to 1,0x spacing for slider-streams. Fixed spacing
Fast Update! :D

Download: Celldweller - Switchback (MercurialSpectre) [Keilara's Razorblade].osu
p3n

Keilara wrote:

p3n wrote:

[Keilara's Razorblade]
General things:
- 1/8 snapping is absolutely unnecessary for this song. Don't use it (slider endings that are 1/8 off are "wrong" anyway) Changed to 1/6 snapping
Ummm...sry for beeing unclear about this: Use 1/4 snapping! (1/6 and 1/3 is a completely different rhythm pattern and this song is a "normal" 1/4 beat)
Topic Starter
Mercurial

p3n wrote:

[General]
No preview points set xD Thnks

[Normal]
I think it suits the song much better to map the beat more constantly, especially during the first KIAI. Those huge and random breaks because you mainly follow the lyrics are not very fitting imo. You can add a lot more notes to this map as the score and "feeling" is more like an "Easy" right now. Should be OK as long as you won't go over 2m or 4 stars. Put in some more 1/2 notes and map more of what you hear + the constant beat.

00:04:995 / 00:06:066 / 00:07:138 - The volume change for the hitsounds sounds very weird here imo. Stick to ~40-50% for non KIAI and ~60% your KIAI/"Chorus" sections I just follow the "Kiai mod"

00:07:674 (7,8,1) - unnecessary jump/anti-jump And your suggestion is?
00:11:424 (4) - this slider ending would be unsnapped if you change the beat snap divisor. Move the end-point much closer to the actual ending of the slider. Done
00:12:227 (5,1) - anti-jump Done
00:26:691 (1,2,3) - messy spacing, disable grid-snap to place this or use grid lvl 4 I don't do that.
00:28:834 (1,2,3) - ^ No.
00:33:388 (2) - makes no sense to silence the slider beginning and turning point here oO I silence this to put a clap at finish of the slider
01:11:691 (3,4,5) - not in line with previous notes Done
01:38:745 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - maybe use some sliders here to break up the boring 1/1 circles? HAHAHAHAHA, It's a normal diff, not a Easy Diff =/
01:42:227 (X) - add a note here? (Maybe turn the three notes into a repeat-slider) I put a Slider... Done
01:46:245 (2) - shorten by 1/2 and add 1x repeat Asdf... D:
02:21:602 (1) - start en end on the big white ticks Done

Some examples of "more notes":
02:07:674 (X) - add note No
02:08:209 (X) - ^ No
02:10:352 (X) - ^ No
02:15:174 (X) - ^ Done


You didn't follow the rules in my modding queue but I like the song so here is your ~star Hahahaha, Sorry u.u Thnks Anyway ^^
jossieP

p3n wrote:

[i_k' Switchback]
Hitsound volume is annoying! Reduce to 60% at least. Better 50%. now 55% volume
Very inconsistent spacing throughout the map. Seems you switched from 0,8x to 0,6x and back to 0,7x/0,8x by accident. that was not an accident o.O
The grid-size you used would be ok for very symmetric patterns but as you use many curves and circle-patterns, you should disable grid-snapping and work with x/y coords, [Ctrl]-snapping and pay attention to your distance-spacings. sorry, Im not symetrical because of I dont know how
Download: Celldweller - Switchback (MercurialSpectre) [i_k' Switchback!].osu
Topic Starter
Mercurial

ikari_kyon wrote:

p3n wrote:

[i_k' Switchback]
Hitsound volume is annoying! Reduce to 60% at least. Better 50%. now 55% volume
Very inconsistent spacing throughout the map. Seems you switched from 0,8x to 0,6x and back to 0,7x/0,8x by accident. that was not an accident o.O
The grid-size you used would be ok for very symmetric patterns but as you use many curves and circle-patterns, you should disable grid-snapping and work with x/y coords, [Ctrl]-snapping and pay attention to your distance-spacings. sorry, Im not symetrical because of I dont know how
Gracias Kyon :3
Ekaru
You only use 50% of the mp3; there's like 3 minutes of unused mp3 left over.

This needs to be cropped to be rankable - ask in #modHelp or post in General Questions if you don't know how to do so. PM me for a remod after this is fixed, please.
indyinyou
[Normal]

00:25:888 : add fin
00:51:602 : ^
01:30:174 : add note and fin
01:38:745 : fin
01:43:031 : ^
01:47:316 : ^
01:52:138 : ^

they're just suggestions

star ~
Topic Starter
Mercurial

Ekaru wrote:

You only use 50% of the mp3; there's like 3 minutes of unused mp3 left over.

This needs to be cropped to be rankable - ask in #modHelp or post in General Questions if you don't know how to do so. PM me for a remod after this is fixed, please.
Total Time: 2:29
Draining Time: 2:19

:?:
ziin
02- Switchback.mp3 properties:
Duration: 0:05:02
File size: 4.73 MB
Topic Starter
Mercurial

ziin wrote:

02- Switchback.mp3 properties:
Duration: 0:05:02
File size: 4.73 MB
Fix'd
Ekaru
Switchback:

00:21:602 (1) - I would rather replace this with a pattern like 00:19:459 (1,2) - , but flipped horizontally. It'll play better
00:23:745 (1,2) - Significantly increase the spacing of these two notes for consistency while you're at it
01:32:316 (1) - See 00:21:602 (1)

Razorblade:

01:25:888 (1) - Make this prettier, please
02:09:281 (7) - ^

I thought some of the 1/2 jumps were a bit too big for such an easy Hard, but okay

Normal:

00:07:674 (7,8) - Too tricky for a Normal, IMO. Newer players will think it's a 1/1 from its context. BAM! Combo-break -> ragequit
00:11:424 (4,5) - Space these out; they feel way too close.
00:38:209 (3) - Make this prettier, please
00:57:763 (1,2,3) - This is also a bit too tricky for a Normal. It's also really awkward
01:46:513 (3) - Make this prettier, please
02:29:370 (2) - I would replace the clap on this slider's endpoint with a Finish.

Easy:

00:42:495 (2) - The blue approach circle blends in perfectly with (1), and you can't see the hit circle itself, either. I would delete this and give (1) a finish instead.
02:06:602 (1,2,3,4) - I would move this combo down so (3) isn't overlapped by the HP Bar
02:10:888 (1,2,3,4) - ^

Star
Topic Starter
Mercurial

Ekaru wrote:

Switchback:

00:21:602 (1) - I would rather replace this with a pattern like 00:19:459 (1,2) - , but flipped horizontally. It'll play better
00:23:745 (1,2) - Significantly increase the spacing of these two notes for consistency while you're at it
01:32:316 (1) - See 00:21:602 (1)

Razorblade:

01:25:888 (1) - Make this prettier, please
02:09:281 (7) - ^

I thought some of the 1/2 jumps were a bit too big for such an easy Hard, but okay

Normal:

00:07:674 (7,8) - Too tricky for a Normal, IMO. Newer players will think it's a 1/1 from its context. BAM! Combo-break -> ragequit
00:11:424 (4,5) - Space these out; they feel way too close.
00:38:209 (3) - Make this prettier, please
00:57:763 (1,2,3) - This is also a bit too tricky for a Normal. It's also really awkward
01:46:513 (3) - Make this prettier, please
02:29:370 (2) - I would replace the clap on this slider's endpoint with a Finish.

Easy:

00:42:495 (2) - The blue approach circle blends in perfectly with (1), and you can't see the hit circle itself, either. I would delete this and give (1) a finish instead.
02:06:602 (1,2,3,4) - I would move this combo down so (3) isn't overlapped by the HP Bar
02:10:888 (1,2,3,4) - ^

Star

Thnks, Editing.
mancuso_JM_
star ;)
ziin

Ekaru wrote:

Easy:
00:42:495 (2) - The blue approach circle blends in perfectly with (1), and you can't see the hit circle itself, either. I would delete this and give (1) a finish instead.
lmao. I can see it just fine. Gave it a new combo. Extending it out would just be tedious.
All fixed.

Pretty funny my version is 2 kB bigger than normal.

Download: Celldweller - Switchback (MercurialSpectre) [ziin's Easy].osu
jossieP

Ekaru wrote:

Switchback:

00:21:602 (1) - I would rather replace this with a pattern like 00:19:459 (1,2) - , but flipped horizontally. It'll play better I keep it, but if someone make a refference to this later Ill change it
00:23:745 (1,2) - Significantly increase the spacing of these two notes for consistency while you're at it antijump? x3
01:32:316 (1) - See 00:21:602 (1) again?

Star thanks
JauiPlaY
hihi~ :)
some suggestions:

[General]
add a preview point.
delete the .osb file if you want.
and what a weird ending...i mean, you'd better to find another .mp3 file.

[ziin's Easy]
00:17:316(1,2) - i don't think those sliders need claps.
00:23:209(x) - add a note.
00:24:816(1) - too short for a easy, maybe a slider?
00:38:745(1,2) - maybe unrankable? well i'm not sure about it...but please, find a MAT and ask about it.
01:20:531(1) - too short for a easy, maybe a slider?
01:25:352(2) - remove clap.
01:38:477(T) - set kiai at 01:38:745.
01:49:191(x) - add a note.
01:51:334(x) - ^
01:53:477(x) - ^
01:55:620(x) - ^
01:57:763(x) - ^

[Normal]
hmm, do not set any kiai time at break time please.
00:01:245(T) - useless timing point.
00:04:459(1,2,3) - spacing.
00:11:424(4,5) - ^
01:38:477(T) - set kiai at 01:38:745.

[Keilara's Razorblade]
it's no need to map this song with 1/6 snap.
00:33:120(1,2) - 01:11:156(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - weird rhythm imo.
01:27:138(2) - the slider starts at 01:27:093.
01:37:138(5,6) - do not use 1/8 sliders here please, it's unnecessary.

[i_k' Switchback!]
00:26:691(5,1) - do not overlapped well.
no any other technical errors. but the map do not looks well imo. try to think again about your mapping and make it neat a bit more please.

that's all.
so
star~
ziin
No changes.

I don't care about kiai, so match whatever the other difficulties have.

Use MP3 Direct cut to cut the song off here 02:30:174 or here 02:34:459
Make sure you crop it right before he starts saying "switchback".
Kei
Here's my difficulty. It's 100% remaked (yes, again, but this time I did it because I wanted). Now it's better than the older one, I think ;u;

Download: Celldweller - Switchback (MercurialSpectre) [Keilara's Razorblade].osu
jossieP

JauiPlaY wrote:

[i_k' Switchback!]
00:26:691(5,1) - do not overlapped well.
no any other technical errors. but the map do not looks well imo. try to think again about your mapping and make it neat a bit more please.
you just must said: "damn noob remake this is ugly", but even Im not gonna remake/change nothing
so.. thanks?
Topic Starter
Mercurial

Ekaru wrote:

Normal:

00:07:674 (7,8) - Too tricky for a Normal, IMO. Newer players will think it's a 1/1 from its context. BAM! Combo-break -> ragequit I do what I can xD
00:11:424 (4,5) - Space these out; they feel way too close. No.
00:38:209 (3) - Make this prettier, please What?
00:57:763 (1,2,3) - This is also a bit too tricky for a Normal. Done
01:46:513 (3) - Make this prettier, please I do what I can xD
02:29:370 (2) - I would replace the clap on this slider's endpoint with a Finish. Done

Star
Thnks Ekaru n.n
Topic Starter
Mercurial

ziin wrote:

Use MP3 Direct cut to cut the song off here 02:30:174 or here 02:34:459
Make sure you crop it right before he starts saying "switchback".
Done Again :3
whymeman
[All]

Set a reasonable preview point for the mapset...

[ziin's Easy]

00:34:459 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - What is this.... WHY are you using jumps and anti-jumps in a Easy difficulty?
01:34:459 (1) - A hold point in the middle of a slider...

Are you trying to make a Normal difficulty or Easy? If you're trying to make it an Easy difficulty, then it would be better to take more time into making it less complex.

[Keilara's Razorblade]

This is the only map using the countdown. It would look better without it really.
Topic Starter
Mercurial

whymeman wrote:

[All]

Set a reasonable preview point for the mapset...

[ziin's Easy]

00:34:459 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - What is this.... WHY are you using jumps and anti-jumps in a Easy difficulty?
01:34:459 (1) - A hold point in the middle of a slider...

Are you trying to make a Normal difficulty or Easy? If you're trying to make it an Easy difficulty, then it would be better to take more time into making it less complex.

[Keilara's Razorblade]

This is the only map using the countdown. It would look better without it really.

Thnks... REALLY REALLY thanks 4 modding this! <3
ziin

whymeman wrote:

[ziin's Easy]

00:34:459 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - What is this.... WHY are you using jumps and anti-jumps in a Easy difficulty? because they're simple to hit. I'll change this when it's time to be bubbled if it's the only thing keeping it from being bubbled.
01:34:459 (1) - A hold point in the middle of a slider... the y velocity doesn't change until the end.

Are you trying to make a Normal difficulty or Easy? A 2 star difficulty.
I don't get this mod at all. Normally there's a clear indication of what it would take to get a star...
whymeman

ziin wrote:

whymeman wrote:

[ziin's Easy]

00:34:459 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - What is this.... WHY are you using jumps and anti-jumps in a Easy difficulty? because they're simple to hit. I'll change this when it's time to be bubbled if it's the only thing keeping it from being bubbled.
01:34:459 (1) - A hold point in the middle of a slider... the y velocity doesn't change until the end.

Are you trying to make a Normal difficulty or Easy? A 2 star difficulty.
I don't get this mod at all. Normally there's a clear indication of what it would take to get a star...
If you're only doing that to get a bubble or star, then this is going in the wrong direction. As I said, why use things like that in a Easy difficulty? It should be more easy to read straightforward without the tricks, jumps, and confusion placements. Don't think only about yourself, think about those starting out in osu.
Topic Starter
Mercurial
Hey hey Guys... Don't Fight for a stupid think like a bubble or star.
ziin

whymeman wrote:

If you're only doing that to get a bubble or star, then this is going in the wrong direction. As I said, why use things like that in a Easy difficulty? It should be more easy to read straightforward without the tricks, jumps, and confusion placements. Don't think only about yourself, think about those starting out in osu.
There are certain techniques that should not generally be used in easy difficulties. Jumps and crazy looking sliders are certainly two of them. As an easy difficulty, I want to introduce some of the more advanced techniques in an easy way, just for newer players. They have to learn the tricks, jumps, and confusion placements eventually if they want to get better, so why not introduce them in the simplest way possible? I knew both were questionable when I put them in. This is not a very easy 1 star difficulty. It's an easy 2 star.

Even though the poll isn't done very well, only 47% of the users who voted said spacing was always important. Clearly spacing isn't as important as we thought if there are that many people who don't mind irregular spacing at least part of the time.

Since this is not my beatmap set, I'm more willing to acquiesce to get the map ranked. If it were my beatmap set, I would find different BATs until one of them could convince me that I am wrong.

The whole point of a mod is to make the map better by getting the approval of the modder. I don't want to be of any inconvenience to MercurialSpectre, which is why I want to know if my stubbornness is preventing you from starring the map. The mod seems to be entirely about my difficulty, which also implies that the rest of the difficulties are perfect to the modder. At least, that's usually how I mod stuff.

MercurialSpectre wrote:

Hey hey Guys... Don't Fight for a stupid think like a bubble or star.
It's not a fight; it's a friendly discussion. If nobody ever discussed anything life wouldn't be very interesting.
Topic Starter
Mercurial

ziin wrote:

If nobody ever discussed anything life wouldn't be very interesting.
True.

Whatever.
mancuso_JM_
General:
Don't remember to set a preview point
Timing :arrow: Set current position as preview point
Normal
Queda feo tener un break en medio de un kiai, intenta agregar notas.
Bien pense que iba a decir algo mas pero esta bien el mapa lo mas importante es lo del preview point en todas las dificultades, no te olvides de ponerlo siempre en el mismo lugar en las 4 dificultades, estrella ya te deje, suerte y espero verlo rankeado pronto. ;)
Topic Starter
Mercurial

mancusojuanmattos wrote:

General:
Don't remember to set a preview point
Timing :arrow: Set current position as preview point
Normal
Queda feo tener un break en medio de un kiai, intenta agregar notas.
Bien pense que iba a decir algo mas pero esta bien el mapa lo mas importante es lo del preview point en todas las dificultades, no te olvides de ponerlo siempre en el mismo lugar en las 4 dificultades, estrella ya te deje, suerte y espero verlo rankeado pronto. ;)
Muchas gracias :)
Hika
hi.
Overall:
Don't forget those preview points even though previous mod posts have mentioned it.


Keilara's Razorblade:
Suggestion: When the slider velocity changes from 1.00 to .50, I suggest you do just 1 tick because it sounds better in my opinion.

i_k' Switchback!:
02:27:763 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - Consider organizing this, but if not, /okayface


you don't really have to do all of this, rofl >u< star~
Topic Starter
Mercurial

Hika wrote:

hi.
Overall:
Don't forget those preview points even though previous mod posts have mentioned it.


Keilara's Razorblade:
Suggestion: When the slider velocity changes from 1.00 to .50, I suggest you do just 1 tick because it sounds better in my opinion.

i_k' Switchback!:
02:27:763 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - Consider organizing this, but if not, /okayface


you don't really have to do all of this, rofl >u< star~
Thnks 4 this Hika :3 That's all :)
eldnl
[General]

- La dificultad insane tiene el countdown desactivado, ademas debes agregar a ziin a los tags en esa dificultad.

[ziin]

00:24:816 - This spinner is very short, beginners need more time of reaction, you can delete the previous (2) and extend the spin? should be fine.
00:34:459 - Really strange pattern to be the easier difficulty in the mapset, please do something more readable.
00:42:495 (1) Please don't stack notes under the slider in easy difficulties, this is really hard to read for beginners, you can extend the slider by 1/2 and it's the same.
00:51:602 - Why not extend this spinner to the next white line?
01:20:531 - Short spin again = ='
01:38:745 - Start the kiai in the big white tick please.
02:29:370 (1,2) These notes are too close to the previous slider, it's a little confuse because looks like this pattern. Please fix it.

[Normal]

00:08:745 - Sube un poco el volumen de esta parte, para seguir el patron anterior, ademas que no se escuchan casi nada los hitsounds.
00:33:388 (2) Sube el volumen de este slider, el hitsound no se escucha, 30% esta bien. Aunque el cambio no se nota nada considerando el volumen anterior, asi que subirlo estaría bien.
00:34:459 - El cambio de volumen de la parte anterior a esta es enorme, se siente extraño, por favor usa un volumen parecido para todo el mapa.
00:43:031 - Breaks en el kiai time? yo digo no, se supone que es la mejor parte de la cancion...
01:06:602 - El clap que pusiste en este spin como que no va, no se escucha bien.
01:38:477 - Porque bajas en volumen en el kiai time? deberia ser al revez.
01:38:745 - Empieza el kiai en la linea blanca grande.
02:15:174 (1) Porque esta nota es solo un combo? es mejor que quites el new combo que pusiste en la nota siguiente.
02:27:763 - Este slider esta demasiado cerca del spin, muy dificil para una dificultad normal.

[Keilara]

Me pareció muy extraño que no mapearas el inicio de la cancion, seria mejor que lo hicieras y uses el mismo break usado en la dificultad normal.
00:41:156 (3,4) Spacing, usas la misma distancia que entre las notas de 1/4.
01:07:138 - Esta parte me parece algo dificil para una hard, las notas estan muy separadas, pero esta bien imo.
01:12:227 (9) Para ser consistentes con el patron anterior, necesitas un new combo aqui, ademas elimina el new combo de el siguiente (1).
02:12:763 (6) La distancia entre este slider y la nota anterior es algo extraña considerando la distancia que usas anteriormente, ademas podrías agregar un new combo aqui para que se noten mas los ticks y el speed down.
02:16:111 (2,3) Jump a 1/4 en una dificultad hard? se me hizo algo confuso.
02:17:316 (1,2,3) Pon estas notas a una distancia normal, me hizo pensar que estaban a una distancia de 1/4. Obviamente para esto tienes que ignorar el speed down, ya que por eso se disminuye la distancia.
02:22:406 (1,2) Espacio inconsistente.
02:29:370 (9) Un new combo aqui seria bueno.

[I_K]

00:37:138 - Jumps totalmente inesperados, puedes hacer algo que se entienda un poco mas?
02:21:602 (6) New combo
La verdad podria llenarte de sugerencias y todo, pero seria mucho, te aconsejo que no intentes hacer que el mapa sea confuso ni muy dificil, no es divertido.

Bueno hice el mod para ver como estaba el map, y no esta muy cerca de la burbuja que digamos, la dificultad insane necesita mas trabajo.
Buena suerte ~
ziin

eldnl wrote:

[General]

- La dificultad insane tiene el countdown desactivado, ademas debes agregar a ziin a los tags en esa dificultad.

[ziin]

00:24:816 - This spinner is very short, beginners need more time of reaction, you can delete the previous (2) and extend the spin? should be fine. k, but 2 stays and it's 1333 ms now
00:34:459 - Really strange pattern to be the easier difficulty in the mapset, please do something more readable.It's a dead simple rhythm, clear approach circles. I can't imagine anyone missing this more than once. If spacing were so important, we wouldn't have stacks either.
00:42:495 (1) Please don't stack notes under the slider in easy difficulties, this is really hard to read for beginners, you can extend the slider by 1/2 and it's the same. You're doing nothing during the slider, and the approach circle is bright red on blue.
00:51:602 - Why not extend this spinner to the next white line? doesn't map what I wanted to map
01:20:531 - Short spin again = =' made over 1500
01:38:745 - Start the kiai in the big white tick please. I'm going to let merc fix kiai stuff, that's up to him, but I put it on downbeat
02:29:370 (1,2) These notes are too close to the previous slider, it's a little confuse because looks like this pattern. Please fix it. on second though I'll fix it.
Mercurial, you can do what you want with kiai, I don't care where it goes. I went ahead and fixed it to downbeat in my diff, but you should make my diff the same as normal's kiai.

Download: Celldweller - Switchback (MercurialSpectre) [ziin's Easy].osu
Topic Starter
Mercurial

eldnl wrote:

[Normal]

00:08:745 - Sube un poco el volumen de esta parte, para seguir el patron anterior, ademas que no se escuchan casi nada los hitsounds. No. Lo dejaré así, a lo sumo lo modificaré si alguien me dice lo mismo.
00:33:388 (2) Sube el volumen de este slider, el hitsound no se escucha, 30% esta bien. Aunque el cambio no se nota nada considerando el volumen anterior, asi que subirlo estaría bien. Listo
00:34:459 - El cambio de volumen de la parte anterior a esta es enorme, se siente extraño, por favor usa un volumen parecido para todo el mapa. Listo
00:43:031 - Breaks en el kiai time? yo digo no, se supone que es la mejor parte de la cancion... Notas Agregadas
01:06:602 - El clap que pusiste en este spin como que no va, no se escucha bien. Removido
01:38:477 - Porque bajas en volumen en el kiai time? deberia ser al revez. Listo
01:38:745 - Empieza el kiai en la linea blanca grande. Arreglado
02:15:174 (1) Porque esta nota es solo un combo? es mejor que quites el new combo que pusiste en la nota siguiente. Es mejor que quede así como está, ya que es un sonido aislado que no tiene continuación con ninguna de las notas anteriores o posteriores.

02:27:763 - Este slider esta demasiado cerca del spin, muy dificil para una dificultad normal. Movido

Bueno hice el mod para ver como estaba el map, y no esta muy cerca de la burbuja que digamos. Hacemos lo que podemos para que esté cada día más cerca.
Buena suerte ~ Muchas gracias

ziin wrote:

Mercurial, you can do what you want with kiai, I don't care where it goes. I went ahead and fixed it to downbeat in my diff, but you should make my diff the same as normal's kiai.
Done :) Thnks ziin for your fast modding :)
jossieP

eldnl wrote:

[I_K]

00:37:138 - Jumps totalmente inesperados, puedes hacer algo que se entienda un poco mas? wqoeprnqwoepriqwoperuqwer
02:21:602 (6) New combo sdfasdfasdrwqer
La verdad podria llenarte de sugerencias y todo, pero seria mucho, te aconsejo que no intentes hacer que el mapa sea confuso ni muy dificil, no es divertido. si puedes llenarme de sugerencias porque no lo haces? :) y la verdad que no creo que este tan dificil que digamos, y porque no puedo hacer algo dificil? porque no soy pro?

Bueno hice el mod para ver como estaba el map, y no esta muy cerca de la burbuja que digamos, la dificultad insane necesita mas trabajo. q(=w=)p trabajo
Buena suerte ~
Download: Celldweller - Switchback (iMercurial) [i_k' Switchback!].osu
Topic Starter
Mercurial

ikari_kyon wrote:

q(=w=)p trabajo
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Raging Bull
General:
Countdown disabled in i_k switchback. Disable it since other diff since it's not in use anyways?

General:
I wouldn't really advise a pure white combo color since it can be blinding during kiai, although you do have a dark BG to compliment it. Maybe make it a slightly darker shade of white? (if that makes sense orz)

Easy:
00:04:459 (1,2) - Maybe unstack these?
00:17:316 (1,2) - Are these sliders made like this intentional? Sorry just not my taste :3 Don't really have to change anything, just wondering.
00:34:459 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Hmm. Why are these spaced differently? Space it correctly please.
00:46:245 (3,4,5) - Unstack?
01:23:477 (1,2) - ^
01:27:763 (1,2) - ^
01:49:459 (2) - NC?
01:53:745 (2) - ^
01:58:031 (2) - ^

Normal:
00:07:674 (7,8) - Weird overlap. Maybe move 8 to the side instead?
00:45:709 (2) - I think spacing this slider would be better.
02:13:299 (6) - Change this slider into something else? I don't like kick sliders in lower diffs. (short repeating sliders)
02:15:709 (1) - Why NC? Remove it?
02:25:620 (1,1) - Next note appears too fast after a spinner in lower difficulty imo. Maybe do something like this? http://puu.sh/5RWI
Tbh this really reminds me of the first time I started mapping. I advise you to map a lot less square-y. Makes the map more livelier and makes more interesting pattern.

Razorblade:
Maybe map the beginning too? Well since it's a guest diff it's up to you.
Seems okay, though I think your NC patterns seem inconsistent, but I'm not good with NC mods sorry.

Switchback:
00:31:781 (5) - I don't agree with slowdown. Doesn't seem to fit. Can you use 1x here?
00:33:924 (3) - ^
02:26:424 (2) - I think it would be better if you move this note to the right instead of at the bottom. Seems to play better for me.

Overall this map is alright, though I prefer if you work on sliders a bit more and note placement, but that's only my opinion.
ziin

Raging Bull wrote:

Easy:
00:04:459 (1,2) - Maybe unstack these? Stacks were on purpose.
00:17:316 (1,2) - Are these sliders made like this intentional? Sorry just not my taste :3 Don't really have to change anything, just wondering. They match the background
00:34:459 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Hmm. Why are these spaced differently? Space it correctly please. because it fits the slider and spacing means nothing on 1/1
01:49:459 (2) - NC? I want the followpoints
No changes.

I'll change the spacing/stack on slider end/switchback slider if that's what's preventing a bubble/rank, or if someone can convince me that it's too hard.
Topic Starter
Mercurial

Raging Bull wrote:

General:
Countdown disabled in i_k switchback. Disable it since other diff since it's not in use anyways? Every mapper could feel free to make anything with his/her map... Don't you think?


Normal:
00:07:674 (7,8) - Weird overlap. Maybe move 8 to the side instead?
00:45:709 (2) - I think spacing this slider would be better.
02:13:299 (6) - Change this slider into something else? I don't like kick sliders in lower diffs. (short repeating sliders)
02:15:709 (1) - Why NC? Remove it?
02:25:620 (1,1) - Next note appears too fast after a spinner in lower difficulty imo. Maybe do something like this? http://puu.sh/5RWI
Tbh this really reminds me of the first time I started mapping. I advise you to map a lot less square-y. Makes the map more livelier and makes more interesting pattern.

Overall this map is alright, though I prefer if you work on sliders a bit more and note placement, but that's only my opinion.
No Changes... Yes, It's my first beatmap, but I'll wail for a BAT or MAT mod for modificate anything to get bubble/rank or something :)

Anyway, thnks for modding here :)
Raging Bull
Okay. I understand you not changing anything, but it sounds as though you value MAT/BAT mods more than regular mod. But still I strongly suggest you map a lot less squarey and experiment. It's way more fun than just moving left right up or down.
Topic Starter
Mercurial

Raging Bull wrote:

Okay. I understand you not changing anything, but it sounds as though you value MAT/BAT mods more than regular mod. But still I strongly suggest you map a lot less squarey and experiment. It's way more fun than just moving left right up or down.
The point is...

I got about 20 mods, and they tell me exactly what you've said to me, and I have changed many times. I prefer a BAT or MAT tell me something definite to obtain the bubble.

Nothing personal :)
Krisom

iMercurial wrote:

I got about 20 mods, and they tell me exactly what you've said to me, and I have changed many times. I prefer a BAT or MAT tell me something definite to obtain the bubble.
La cosa es que cuando uno obtiene mods no se debe fijar solo en lo rankeable o lo no rankeable. Si no quieres cambiar algo por que ya has cambiado muchas cosas y solo quieres que tu mapa este "listo para la burbuja" no va a pasar. La mayoría de los BATs/MATs también se preocupan de los aspectos estéticos y por la calidad del mapa en general, no solo por el set de reglas en piedra. Si este último fuera el caso, tendríamos un sistema de ranking automatizado.

Habiendo dicho esto, te recomiendo fuertemente que leas los modposts que no has querido cambiar por no ser de MATs/BATs para que así el proximo mod de MAT/BAT sea más corto y rápido. Recuerda que jamás podrás volver a cambiar cosas en un mapa rankeado.

Ok, vamos al mod. Tercer modpost como BAT

General.-
· Ve a Song Setup -> Storyboarding y deja desactivadas las opciones de "countdown" y de "letterboxing during breaks" en todas las dificultades. Esto es por que el countdown solo está funcionando en Razorblade, y el letterboxing no se ve bien en Switchback!
· Haz que los nombres sean consistentes y que signifiquen algo. Ahora, tienes Easy, Normal, Razorblade y Switchback!. La idea es que todo el set sea consistente, o le pones nombres especiales a todas las dificultades o dejas a razorblade y Switchback! como Hard e Insane respectivamente. Sumado a esto último, recuerda que si vas a usar un nombre custom para alguna dificultad debe tener un significado que refleje el nivel de dificultad del mapa.
· Los Kiai Time debieran terminar en el mainbeat. Debes hacer que el primer kiai time termine en 00:51:602 - y el segundo en 01:47:316 - en todas las dificultades.

Easy.-
First, good job! Nice sliders!
00:51:602 (1) - I feel this should end 1/1 later, on the mainbeat. That, or move the break to make it start at 00:53:745 - (after all, on the second chorus you do place a note on the mainbeat: 01:47:316 (1) - )
01:34:459 (1) - Asked around, this slider doesnt seems to be appropiate for an easy due to the sliderpath disappearing with mm sliders. I'm sorry.

Normal.-
De acuerdo con los demás, te recomiendo no utilizar solamente patrones cuadrados. Recuerda que también puedes hacer arcos, estrellas, curvas, etc.
00:07:674 (7,8) - Evita que (8) quede tapado bajo (7) de la manera en que está ahora mismo, se ve extraño y tapa el final de (8) casi pro completo.
00:45:709 (2,1,2) - El stack de (1,2) azul está comparativamente muy cerca del final de (2) blanco. Porfavor alejalos más.
00:58:031 (2) - Me parece que un ritmo como este quedaría mucho mejor.
02:15:174 (1,1) - No me parece que necesites los dos new combos.
Este mapa puede mejorar mucho, se siente un poco linear ahora. Te recomiendo obtener más ayuda con hitsounds y patrones en general.

Razorblade.-
Remueve el Lead-In Audio, no lo usas para nada ya que no mapeas desde la intro.
00:43:031 (1) - Agrega un finish al inicio
00:47:316 (1) - ^
01:07:138 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Podrías poner este patron en otro lado? Se ve algo cubierto por los elementos del spinner bonus, etc.
01:28:834 (1,2,3,4) - Para no confundir a (4) como si tubiese el mismo ritmo que (1,2) yo lo sacaría de abajo del final de (3). Recuerda que patrones simetricos crean la ilusión de tener el mismo ritmo.
01:38:745 (1) - Agrega un finish al inicio
01:43:031 (1) - ^
02:16:111 (2,3) - No te sugiero que uses un spacing así con este ritmo. Trata de hacer algo así.
02:17:049 (1,2,3) - No reduzcas el spacing antes de (3), ya que (1) tiene la sliderspeed normal, se piensa que (2) y (3) están a 1/4 y 1/2 de distancia respectivamente. (Si te preocupa la reducción de la velocidad de (3) no es impornatnte, ya que tiene suficientes sliderticks)
02:20:397 (4,1) - Similar a lo de arriba, no reduscas el spacing antes de (1)
02:21:066 (1,2,3,4,5) - Ojo! (1,2) tienen un spacing distinto a (2,3,4,5) pero tienen el mismo ritmo! Eso no puede pasar.
Me llevé una grata sorpresa con este mapa! Muy agradable ^^! Recomendaciones: juega más con los otros hitsounds, no solo con claps.

Switchback!.-
No me parece que el BPM y el spacing sean apropiados para AR8, se siente muy rápido en comparación a la música.
00:31:781 (5) - No te recomiendo hacer slowdowns de x0.50 si no hay ticks para detectarlo. No puedes usar un slowdown distinto como x0.65 para no confundir este slider con uno que dura 1/2? No me parece que haya u patrón que no se pueda cambiar :P
00:33:388 (2,3) - Similar a lo de arriba con (3). Además, cuidado con la reducción en el spacing.
00:37:138 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Confuso y poco legible. Sobre todo (6,7)
00:39:013 (1,2) - ^
... hay muchos underlaps y overlaps que no se ven nada bien, y los patrones del kiai están repetidos 3 veces, la tercera vez idéntica a la segundo (sin siquiera una rotación). No te recomiendo que hagas eso a menos que el mapa haya sido mapeado con estructura. Me parece que esta dificultad necesita muchos más mods de los que lleva hasta ahora.

Aún no estas listo para una burbuja imo. Consigue más mods y dale al mapa más orden en general.
ziin

Krisom wrote:

00:51:602 (1) - I feel this should end 1/1 later, on the mainbeat. That, or move the break to make it start at 00:53:745 - (after all, on the second chorus you do place a note on the mainbeat: 01:47:316 (1) - )
01:34:459 (1) - Asked around, this slider doesnt seems to be appropiate for an easy due to the sliderpath disappearing with mm sliders. I'm sorry.
Break changed, the spinner maps the vocals, which end at that point (and coincide with a snare hit). It's not the greatest of break locations either, but I felt it was too repetetive.
slider ruined into something more "readable".

Download: Celldweller - Switchback (iMercurial) [ziin's Easy].osu
Raging Bull

Krisom wrote:

iMercurial wrote:

I got about 20 mods, and they tell me exactly what you've said to me, and I have changed many times. I prefer a BAT or MAT tell me something definite to obtain the bubble.
La cosa es que cuando uno obtiene mods no se debe fijar solo en lo rankeable o lo no rankeable. Si no quieres cambiar algo por que ya has cambiado muchas cosas y solo quieres que tu mapa este "listo para la burbuja" no va a pasar. La mayoría de los BATs/MATs también se preocupan de los aspectos estéticos y por la calidad del mapa en general, no solo por el set de reglas en piedra. Si este último fuera el caso, tendríamos un sistema de ranking automatizado.

Habiendo dicho esto, te recomiendo fuertemente que leas los modposts que no has querido cambiar por no ser de MATs/BATs para que así el proximo mod de MAT/BAT sea más corto y rápido. Recuerda que jamás podrás volver a cambiar cosas en un mapa rankeado.
Google translate actually worked well this time

But anyways what do you mean by exactly what I said? Sorry, I didn't really browse through the thread checking if other people mentioned what I would mention :|
jossieP

Raging Bull wrote:

Switchback:
00:31:781 (5) - I don't agree with slowdown. Doesn't seem to fit. Can you use 1x here? 1x
00:33:924 (3) - ^ ^
02:26:424 (2) - I think it would be better if you move this note to the right instead of at the bottom. Seems to play better for me. to the right

Overall this map is alright, though I prefer if you work on sliders a bit more and note placement, but that's only my opinion. I will

Krisom wrote:

Switchback!.-
No me parece que el BPM y el spacing sean apropiados para AR8, se siente muy rápido en comparación a la música. cual deberia ser el correcto? 7?
00:31:781 (5) - No te recomiendo hacer slowdowns de x0.50 si no hay ticks para detectarlo. No puedes usar un slowdown distinto como x0.65 para no confundir este slider con uno que dura 1/2? No me parece que haya u patrón que no se pueda cambiar :P ya he quitado el slowdown
00:33:388 (2,3) - Similar a lo de arriba con (3). Además, cuidado con la reducción en el spacing. arreglado, creo <.<
00:37:138 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Confuso y poco legible. Sobre todo (6,7) ;w;
00:39:013 (1,2) - ^
... hay muchos underlaps y overlaps que no se ven nada bien, y los patrones del kiai están repetidos 3 veces, la tercera vez idéntica a la segundo (sin siquiera una rotación). No te recomiendo que hagas eso a menos que el mapa haya sido mapeado con estructura. Me parece que esta dificultad necesita muchos más mods de los que lleva hasta ahora. jojo perdon por no ser simetrico don krisom, espero que ahora este mejor
Download: Celldweller - Switchback (iMercurial) [i_k' Switchback!].osu
Kei
Perdon por haberme tardado tanto >o<!! Hice todo!

Download: Celldweller - Switchback (iMercurial) [Keilara's Razorblade].osu
Topic Starter
Mercurial

Keilara wrote:

Perdon por haberme tardado tanto >o<!! Hice todo!
Muchas gracias Kate ♥
Topic Starter
Mercurial
Sorry guys... I'll be AFK from osu! for a while... When I'm back, I'll continue with this beatmap ♥


Go to graveyard...
Colin Hou
hi~ this is a late mod :3

[General]:
  1. remove 'Dota' from the tags, you may found this song from a Dota video but this song is not for that War3-mod at all :3
  2. and map more diffs next time, only a Normal diff by yourself is not so good.
[Switchback]:
  1. ask the owner to disable all the letterbox during breaks on all diffs? there are many short break in your diff, they fit well but the BG just disappeared in seconds lol
  2. 00:31:781 (5) - how can players know this would be a slow-down slider? the music pace doesn't change at all here.
  3. 00:33:120 (1,2,3) - spacing and the same slow-down issue.
  4. 01:12:495 (5,6) - spacing, too close sorry.
  5. 02:08:477 (1,2,3,4) - claps on wrong place? they are supposed on redline-notes imo
  6. 02:29:638 (1) - replace this with note? and add 1 at 02:29:504 then
[Razorblade]:
  1. disable lean-in
  2. AR+1 OD+2/3
  3. 02:12:495 (5,6) - spacing, when use a slow-down, don't forget to multiple your spacing snap
  4. 02:21:066 (1,2,3) - confusing spacing
[Normal]:
  1. 00:01:245 (T) - unused section
[Easy]:
  1. 01:34:459 (1) - final part is too confusing for an Easy diff.
good luck~

Edit: orz the post up there.
Kei
Bueno.. no sé si vas a mandar el map al Graveyard o no.. no entendí bien eso, pero aun así te moddié el map porque estaba aburrida y porque cuando te lo moddié, hace meeeeses.. no sabía nada de mappeo. Este sería el mod "de verdad" xD
Solo moddié tu dificultad.


[Normal]

Probá cambiar el slider tick rate a 2.

00:00:174 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Creo que deberías considerar este o crear otro patrón con estas notas.. para evitar que se vea "cuadrado". http://puu.sh/7pvt
00:03:656 (8) - Si usaste el patrón que te ofrecí arriba, deberías poner este slider aca: http://puu.sh/7pwL, ubicando el punto final de este slider con la nota anterior (5).
00:04:459 (1) - También suponiendo que aceptaste mi patrón, poné esta nota donde estaba la nota enterior (4) y además alineala con (6).
00:04:995 (2) - Mové esta nota a donde estaba la nota anterior (7).
00:05:531 (3) - Ahora mové esta a donde estaba la nota anterior (6).
00:06:066 (4) - Mové esta nota arriba de (3).
00:06:602 (5) - Ahora mové esta nota a la mitad del campo de juego.
00:07:138 (6) - Alinea esta nota con (4).
00:07:674 (7) - Alinea esta con (5), en la mitad del campo de juego.
00:07:941 (8) - Para terminar el patrón, mové este slider abajo de (7), de modo que quede en el mismo lugar que el slider (8) anterior (00:03:656).

Bueno.. acerca de patrones.. la parte que sigue hasta el break la dejo a tu criterio.. no quiero que parezca que trato de que cambies el map a mi estilo, porque no es así :3

00:17:316 - Mové el comienzo del break aca. También si querés podrías agregar una nota con hitfinish.
00:26:691 (1,2,3) - Esta parte está muy rara. Te recomendaría que hicieras estos cambios: Hacé mas corto el slider (1), hacelo terminar en 00:26:959. Mové la nota (2) al tick rojo siguiente, y después, mové el slider (3) al siguiente tick blanco. Cuando lo hayas movido, alargalo para que termine en el tick rojo (00:28:299). Creo que así suena mejor.
00:28:834 (1,2,3) - Lo mismo que te dije arriba.
00:30:977 (1,2,1,2) - Me gusta este patrón, no lo cambies.
00:33:388 (2) - Quita las claps del final del slider y reemplazalo por hitfinish.
00:38:209 (3) - Me gustó este patrón simétrico. Quedaría mejor si copias el slider (3) y lo volteas horizontalmente, reemplazando este.
00:39:281 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Podrías intentar algo diferente, talvez algo así: http://puu.sh/7pDd para variar un poco las formas. Creo que deberías aprovechar de que es una dificultad Normal ya que como es una dificultad simple da lugar a hacer más patrones para que hagan variar un poco al jugador a la hora de cliquear las notas.. ya que de por sí una Normal va lento, si le hacés patrones simples, rectos, la hacen aburrida de jugar.
00:43:031 (1,2,3,4) - No varies el spacing en dificultades Normal y Easy. Los jugadores nuevos y menos experimentados que son los que generalmente juegan estas dificultades podrían no reconocer este cambio de spacing y resultarles confuso. Por más pequeño que sea, no se cambia.. a no ser que un BAT haga exepción :3
00:45:174 (1,2) - Otra vez spacing. Además, creo que no se pueden stackear sliders así en dificultad Normal.
00:55:084 (3) - Mové esta nota al siguiente tick blanco.
01:02:584 (2) - No sé si deberían haber claps aca.. suenan algo random. En todo caso si querés dejarlas, podrías hacer esto: Agrega claps al final de (1), sacale claps a la repetición de (2), y agregá claps a (4).
01:04:459 - Hit finish?
01:08:477 (1) - Talvez reducir slider al tick blanco?
01:13:031 - Mové el break aca, y como te dije antes, si querés podes agregar una nota con hitfinish.
01:22:138 (1,2,3,4) - Podrías intentar un patrón distinto, alguno de los que ya te dije o algo.
01:24:549 (5) - New combo?
01:25:888 (x) - Podrías agregar dos notas seguidas, una aca y otra en el siguiente tick con claps, o si no podría ser un slider.
01:30:174 (x) - Talvez una nota aca con finish quedaría bien.. aunque no estoy segura.. talvez complique mucho la dificultad. Vos te fijás :3
01:38:745 (1) - Move esta nota a alguna otra parte ;-; Creo que no queda bien ahi.
01:46:513 (3) - Creo que quedaría mejor este slider si alineas sus puntos.
01:53:477 (1) - Y si alargas este slider hasta donde está (2) y borras esa nota?
02:12:763 (5) - En mi opinión creo que quedaría mejor si reemplazas esta nota y el slider (6) con un slider largo que abarque toda esa vocal.. eso sería hasta la nota (1).
02:21:602 - Hit finish?
02:25:620 - ^
02:29:370 (2) - Claps?

Eso es todo Dante. Me sorprende un poco como mejoré del mod que te hice hace 5 meses con este o.o
Espero que te ayude :3
ziin

Colin Hou wrote:

[Easy]:
  1. 01:34:459 (1) - final part is too confusing for an Easy diff.
good luck~

Edit: orz the post up there.
by the way, no changes to be made, I already fixed above.
Topic Starter
Mercurial

Keilara wrote:

Bueno.. no sé si vas a mandar el map al Graveyard o no.. no entendí bien eso, pero aun así te moddié el map porque estaba aburrida y porque cuando te lo moddié, hace meeeeses.. no sabía nada de mappeo. Este sería el mod "de verdad" xD
Solo moddié tu dificultad.


[Normal]

Probá cambiar el slider tick rate a 2.

00:00:174 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Creo que deberías considerar este o crear otro patrón con estas notas.. para evitar que se vea "cuadrado". http://puu.sh/7pvt
00:03:656 (8) - Si usaste el patrón que te ofrecí arriba, deberías poner este slider aca: http://puu.sh/7pwL, ubicando el punto final de este slider con la nota anterior (5).
00:04:459 (1) - También suponiendo que aceptaste mi patrón, poné esta nota donde estaba la nota enterior (4) y además alineala con (6).
00:04:995 (2) - Mové esta nota a donde estaba la nota anterior (7).
00:05:531 (3) - Ahora mové esta a donde estaba la nota anterior (6).
00:06:066 (4) - Mové esta nota arriba de (3).
00:06:602 (5) - Ahora mové esta nota a la mitad del campo de juego.
00:07:138 (6) - Alinea esta nota con (4).
00:07:674 (7) - Alinea esta con (5), en la mitad del campo de juego.
00:07:941 (8) - Para terminar el patrón, mové este slider abajo de (7), de modo que quede en el mismo lugar que el slider (8) anterior (00:03:656).

Bueno.. acerca de patrones.. la parte que sigue hasta el break la dejo a tu criterio.. no quiero que parezca que trato de que cambies el map a mi estilo, porque no es así :3

00:17:316 - Mové el comienzo del break aca. También si querés podrías agregar una nota con hitfinish.
00:26:691 (1,2,3) - Esta parte está muy rara. Te recomendaría que hicieras estos cambios: Hacé mas corto el slider (1), hacelo terminar en 00:26:959. Mové la nota (2) al tick rojo siguiente, y después, mové el slider (3) al siguiente tick blanco. Cuando lo hayas movido, alargalo para que termine en el tick rojo (00:28:299). Creo que así suena mejor.
00:28:834 (1,2,3) - Lo mismo que te dije arriba.
00:30:977 (1,2,1,2) - Me gusta este patrón, no lo cambies.
00:33:388 (2) - Quita las claps del final del slider y reemplazalo por hitfinish.
00:38:209 (3) - Me gustó este patrón simétrico. Quedaría mejor si copias el slider (3) y lo volteas horizontalmente, reemplazando este.
00:39:281 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Podrías intentar algo diferente, talvez algo así: http://puu.sh/7pDd para variar un poco las formas. Creo que deberías aprovechar de que es una dificultad Normal ya que como es una dificultad simple da lugar a hacer más patrones para que hagan variar un poco al jugador a la hora de cliquear las notas.. ya que de por sí una Normal va lento, si le hacés patrones simples, rectos, la hacen aburrida de jugar.
00:43:031 (1,2,3,4) - No varies el spacing en dificultades Normal y Easy. Los jugadores nuevos y menos experimentados que son los que generalmente juegan estas dificultades podrían no reconocer este cambio de spacing y resultarles confuso. Por más pequeño que sea, no se cambia.. a no ser que un BAT haga exepción :3
00:45:174 (1,2) - Otra vez spacing. Además, creo que no se pueden stackear sliders así en dificultad Normal.
00:55:084 (3) - Mové esta nota al siguiente tick blanco.
01:02:584 (2) - No sé si deberían haber claps aca.. suenan algo random. En todo caso si querés dejarlas, podrías hacer esto: Agrega claps al final de (1), sacale claps a la repetición de (2), y agregá claps a (4).
01:04:459 - Hit finish?
01:08:477 (1) - Talvez reducir slider al tick blanco?
01:13:031 - Mové el break aca, y como te dije antes, si querés podes agregar una nota con hitfinish.
01:22:138 (1,2,3,4) - Podrías intentar un patrón distinto, alguno de los que ya te dije o algo.
01:24:549 (5) - New combo?
01:25:888 (x) - Podrías agregar dos notas seguidas, una aca y otra en el siguiente tick con claps, o si no podría ser un slider.
01:30:174 (x) - Talvez una nota aca con finish quedaría bien.. aunque no estoy segura.. talvez complique mucho la dificultad. Vos te fijás :3
01:38:745 (1) - Move esta nota a alguna otra parte ;-; Creo que no queda bien ahi.
01:46:513 (3) - Creo que quedaría mejor este slider si alineas sus puntos.
01:53:477 (1) - Y si alargas este slider hasta donde está (2) y borras esa nota?
02:12:763 (5) - En mi opinión creo que quedaría mejor si reemplazas esta nota y el slider (6) con un slider largo que abarque toda esa vocal.. eso sería hasta la nota (1).
02:21:602 - Hit finish?
02:25:620 - ^
02:29:370 (2) - Claps?

Eso es todo Dante. Me sorprende un poco como mejoré del mod que te hice hace 5 meses con este o.o
Espero que te ayude :3
Gracias y modificando :3
jossieP

Colin Hou wrote:

[Switchback]:
  1. ask the owner to disable all the letterbox during breaks on all diffs? there are many short break in your diff, they fit well but the BG just disappeared in seconds lol disabled :p
  2. 00:31:781 (5) - how can players know this would be a slow-down slider? the music pace doesn't change at all here. huh I already have changed this
  3. 00:33:120 (1,2,3) - spacing and the same slow-down issue. b
  4. 01:12:495 (5,6) - spacing, too close sorry. left
  5. 02:08:477 (1,2,3,4) - claps on wrong place? they are supposed on redline-notes imo imo?
  6. 02:29:638 (1) - replace this with note? and add 1 at 02:29:504 then
b
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