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Mercurial

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Mercurial 2012-02-27T16:50:53+00:00

Leorda wrote:
Hi there

General
* Try this kiai time by me
00:51:624 ~ 01:04:481
01:47:338 ~ 02:00:196
02:04:481 ~ 02:13:053
Okay, sounds like emotive hentai Klayton. Done.

Normal
00:06:624 (5) - New combo for your combo pattern Done.
00:25:910 (1) - Seems too far from spinner for normal diff (not sure) Nope, it seems fine for me.
00:32:338 (1,2) - Small spacing? Is that intentional? Yeah, intentional.
01:21:624 (1) - Same issue as 00:25:910 (1) Same response as 00:25:910 (1)
02:02:874 (1) - ^ ^
02:15:731 (1) - ^ ^

Once you fix this, forum PM me

Waiting for ziin

mancuso_JM_

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mancuso_JM_ 2012-02-27T19:12:00+00:00

Che Mercu, estaba mirando el Map de Curioso nada mas xD y me di cuenta de algo:

[Hard:]

00:51:624/01:04:481 (T): En estas Inherited Point (Comienzo y final del kiai) pusiste velocidad de Slider x0.75 esto hace que se vea todo mal, probablemente no fue intencional este cambio, debes cambiar todo a x1.0 que es donde se ve bien

No me des Kudos por esto

Mercurial

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Mercurial 2012-02-27T19:28:48+00:00

mancusojuanmattos wrote:
Che Mercu, estaba mirando el Map de Curioso nada mas xD y me di cuenta de algo:

[Hard:]

00:51:624/01:04:481 (T): En estas Inherited Point (Comienzo y final del kiai) pusiste velocidad de Slider x0.75 esto hace que se vea todo mal, probablemente no fue intencional este cambio, debes cambiar todo a x1.0 que es donde se ve bien

No me des Kudos por esto

Había hecho un pattern de 0.75x antes del cambio de Kiai, por eso quedó así.

Gracias por el dato :3

ziin

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ziin 2012-02-27T20:19:29+00:00

somehow I think the kiai's going to change again...

Let me know if you change it because I'm using your kiai. Make sure all the metadata is the same (you have my permission to edit this stuff like letterbox/countdown).

Leorda wrote:
Hi there
ziinyan's Easy
* AR +1? If anything I can lower it. my ideal AR shows at most 4-5 notes on the screen at a time. I'll leave it at 3.

00:53:767 (B) - I feel this break space are make no sense at all, since it's not a calm part. Try to map this part? I needed a break, and I think this is where mercurial put it when I first made the song. Moved it elsewhere.

Download: Celldweller - Switchback (iMercurial) [ziin's Easy].osu

Last edited by ziin 2012-02-29T13:45:08+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Mercurial

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Mercurial 2012-02-27T20:25:28+00:00

Yeah, I've changed the kiai time as Kei made too.

Leorda

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Leorda 2012-03-07T15:13:48+00:00

IRC Modding

(Normal) - Change from red to blue combo color for preventing of blending from spinner for 01:07:160 (1)
(Hard) - Same issue about blending at Normal diff in 00:25:910 (1)
(Hard) - Fix the unsnapped tail slider due to timing issue

Bubbled

Mercurial

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Mercurial 2012-03-07T15:15:40+00:00

Irc modding like a boss.

Thank you :3

Kei

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Kei 2012-03-07T15:20:04+00:00

Yessssssssss finally :3

Low

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Low 2012-03-20T00:53:39+00:00

[General]

• I don't see why Kei's Insane has a different tick rate from the other difficulties. Also, why does ziin's Easy have a different stack leniency?

[ziin's Easy]

00:23:767 (1) - Why is there a NC here when you didn't do it in 00:17:338 (1,2)?
00:34:481 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Confusing for newer players. I had one of my newer friends to osu! try it out and they tripped up.
01:34:481 (1) - NC

[Normal]

• 40% hitsounds at the beginning when there's a loud guitar and drums playing? I really suggest that you make it louder. In fact, all of the hitsounds are really quiet.
00:02:338 (1) - NC to be consistent
00:15:731 (2) - Clap
00:16:803 - Move the start of the break to the next long white tick (00:17:338). This looks really neat during gameplay.
01:01:803 (1) - Remove NC
01:07:160 (1) - Need a NC because it's after a spinner.
01:26:446 - Add a note here, and remove the note at 01:26:713.
01:51:624 (3) - NC
01:55:910 (1) - NC

[Hard]

Good.

[Kei's Insane]

-1 AR.
I'm also really not understanding the NC changes in this difficulty. They seem really inconsistent. For example - At one point they seem to be following the accompaniment, but sometimes they feel like they follow the vocals. Other times, I really can't even tell.
01:55:106 (5,6,7) - Fix the spacing of this.

jossieP

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jossieP 2012-03-20T01:59:00+00:00

man, seriously FUCK THE NEW COMBOS
is so stupid annoying, rules dont say anything about concistant of new combos, they dont have to follow nothing, check out the rules

Odaril wrote:
Use new combos often and intelligently. Using a new combo every few beats wouldn't make sense, but you also want to avoid long combos that continue for many measures.

it dont say anything about follow rhythm or song, it says just to dont have too long or too short combos
also this is a guideline is not absolute, new combos are set by creator's criteria, is not a excuse to pop a bubble, I remember I saw you was a pro modder, I think you didnt get the sarcasm, ok Ill put it here
[sarcasm]Jacob you are so pro[/sarcasm]

tick rate and stack leniency is decition of creator also, since are guest diffs...

Low

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Low 2012-03-20T02:03:59+00:00

I'm going to act completely mature - unlike you are now.

I'm just providing some helpful suggestions on how he could improve his combos. I mean no harm. You just needed to blow this out of proportion and make this an ordeal.

Good going.

jossieP

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jossieP 2012-03-20T02:07:33+00:00

just say some random stuff about combos is not helpful
Edit: I think you didnt read that quote
Edit2: I think nobody has call you here

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Low

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Low 2012-03-20T02:10:46+00:00

It's not "random stuff about combos." It's legitimate concerns for the placing of the combos. You see people modding combos all the time. Even BATs and MATs. Apparently you're the only one who wants to "FUCK THE NEW COMBOS". Even though it doesn't state so in the rules, combos are generally supposed to be placed in an orderly manner. Do you see many ranked maps with weird, random combo changes?

Done arguing. GL on your map, iMercurial.

jossieP

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jossieP 2012-03-20T02:14:14+00:00

Leorda wrote:
IRC Modding
(Normal) - Change from red to blue combo color for preventing of blending from spinner for 01:07:160 (1)
(Hard) - Same issue about blending at Normal diff in 00:25:910 (1)
(Hard) - Fix the unsnapped tail slider due to timing issue
Bubbled

I dont see anything about new combos here

Low

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Low 2012-03-20T02:16:16+00:00

Done arguing

jossieP

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jossieP 2012-03-20T02:19:07+00:00

say stfu as should be if you dont like my comments

Mercurial

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Mercurial 2012-03-20T12:24:54+00:00

Please, don't fight stupidly in my map, okay?

Thanks for help me, but right now, I'm waiting for a BAT.

Anyway, thank you anybody =)

jossieP

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jossieP 2012-03-20T15:44:38+00:00

just was trying to help, kei has link me this
so what you are going to do with that pop attemp?

Kei

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Kei 2012-03-20T15:48:14+00:00

I linked this to Kyon to know his opinion (he knows more about this stuff than me), because I think that NC and some samples aren't a solid reason to pop a bubble. When a modder tries to pop a bubble, he has to point unrankable stuff. That's all.

Mercurial

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Mercurial 2012-03-20T19:12:25+00:00

I don't have or want to pop this bubble until some MAT/BAT or Expert modder gime me a SOLID REASON to do it.

End of this discussion.

ziin

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ziin 2012-03-20T19:29:35+00:00

Jacob wrote:
[General]

• I don't see why Kei's Insane has a different tick rate from the other difficulties. Also, why does ziin's Easy have a different stack leniency? stack leniency doesn't matter in the slightest

[ziin's Easy]

00:23:767 (1) - Why is there a NC here when you didn't do it in 00:17:338 (1,2)? natural break
00:34:481 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Confusing for newer players. I had one of my newer friends to osu! try it out and they tripped up. Glad to hear it. Did they fall?
01:34:481 (1) - NC sure. Mercurial can you fix this one for me?

iMercurial wrote:
I don't have or want to pop this bubble until some MAT/BAT or Expert modder gime me a SOLID REASON to do it.

End of this discussion.

make any changes you agree with, then PM leorda for a rebubble. Using "but it's bubbled" as an excuse is stupid.

Mercurial

Topic Starter

Mercurial 2012-03-20T19:32:25+00:00

Oh well...

Changing somethings at my own accord and Re-PMing at Leorda.

Jacob wrote:
[Normal]

• 40% hitsounds at the beginning when there's a loud guitar and drums playing? I really suggest that you make it louder. In fact, all of the hitsounds are really quiet. I like that hitsounds volume, so I don't change it.
00:02:338 (1) - NC to be consistent No.
00:15:731 (2) - Clap Meh.
00:16:803 - Move the start of the break to the next long white tick (00:17:338). This looks really neat during gameplay. Meh
01:01:803 (1) - Remove NC No, I spoke with Leorda about this, just read the changelog.
01:07:160 (1) - Need a NC because it's after a spinner. ^
01:26:446 - Add a note here, and remove the note at 01:26:713. No, I'm following the vocals.
01:51:624 (3) - NC No.
01:55:910 (1) - NC Read the Changelog with Leorda.

[Hard]

Good. Thanks.

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mancuso_JM_

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mancuso_JM_ 2012-03-20T19:43:08+00:00

Jacob wrote:
[General]

• I don't see why Kei's Insane has a different tick rate from the other difficulties. Also, why does ziin's Easy have a different stack leniency?

[ziin's Easy]

00:23:767 (1) - Why is there a NC here when you didn't do it in 00:17:338 (1,2)?
00:34:481 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Confusing for newer players. I had one of my newer friends to osu! try it out and they tripped up.
01:34:481 (1) - NC

[Normal]

• 40% hitsounds at the beginning when there's a loud guitar and drums playing? I really suggest that you make it louder. In fact, all of the hitsounds are really quiet.
00:02:338 (1) - NC to be consistent
00:15:731 (2) - Clap
00:16:803 - Move the start of the break to the next long white tick (00:17:338). This looks really neat during gameplay.
01:01:803 (1) - Remove NC
01:07:160 (1) - Need a NC because it's after a spinner.
01:26:446 - Add a note here, and remove the note at 01:26:713.
01:51:624 (3) - NC
01:55:910 (1) - NC

[Hard]

Good.

[Kei's Insane]

-1 AR.
I'm also really not understanding the NC changes in this difficulty. They seem really inconsistent. For example - At one point they seem to be following the accompaniment, but sometimes they feel like they follow the vocals. Other times, I really can't even tell.
01:55:106 (5,6,7) - Fix the spacing of this.

Oh men, this mod it's totally ''ridiculous'' because it's a bubble map. If you want to mod a bubble map try to find unrankable things and after make a complete mod, ok
/me runs

Mercurial

Topic Starter

Mercurial 2012-03-20T19:47:30+00:00

No importa Juan, ya fué, ya envié un PM a Leorda ya que poppee la Bubble.

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEH.

Leorda

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Leorda 2012-03-21T15:56:05+00:00

Ahhhh, an update~

Rebubbled

Mercurial

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Mercurial 2012-03-21T15:56:36+00:00

Kei

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Kei 2012-03-27T00:24:12+00:00

Here's an update. Shiirn irc modded my diff, so I did some minor changes (changed 2 sliders and the last spinner's end).

Download: Celldweller - Switchback (iMercurial) [Kei's Insane].osu

Shiirn

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Shiirn 2012-03-27T14:08:19+00:00

And those were the only changes done.

Enjoy your first and my fourth Rank!