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Anyway I already give up yesterday at this drama
the introduction of revocable denizenship was interpreted as a scary precedent toward unfair misuse of power and extrajudicial removal of people from the list of denizens.
people turned it into an unreasonably hyperbolic avalanche of complaints and severe misunderstandings about what qualifies denizenship and what qualifies it being revoked.
ghouly tried to clarify, people began to antagonize her and unfortunately failed to sit and listen for a moment.
after establishing that revoking denizenship is done in significantly fringe cases, and that nobody else is in danger of it at the moment, we seemed to have accepted it and quieted down.
(though I do agree that there should have been more of an elaboration in the original statement)
though to be fair, maybe not all of them were involved in the voting process, therefore not really being capable of being held responsible for ot!government elections, as they'd likely been new at the time if my uninformed guess is correct. it also can be difficult to see things in as clear a scope as this due to how ot!government content is published in the subforum to an extent of prevalence that speaks more to the effectiveness of the roleplay in a sense.
this also isn't too dissimilar from general mechanisms of internet commentary to begin with, in that it can be difficult to differentiate the real scale of things once you're immersed, and people can grow easily agitated and vigilant through this immersion in the internet as a medium for communication, including any form of conflict. that's where we might take something personally, often venturing to do something about it-- even when it's hardly constructive-- like fearmongering about a concern.
not that this fundamentally changes anything, just a note of trivially subtle clarifying factors to consider before the dwellers of OT are held responsible.
if you ever plan to though, i'd say i think my start here turned out pretty similarly. it comes with time and exposure to experience with doing it yourself :>
much of what he's done is over that line
precisely. it would be a classic scenario of playing stupid games, winning stupid prizes. there really wouldn't be anything more to expect of it after ignoring the efforts previously described, and so the case is effectively shut, cut, and dried.
Advantages
Get to run for the president/parliamnet member
Get to join collabs
Get to join denzin only stuff
People will recognize you in future if you spent long enough time like you were some legendary 💩💩💩
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I owe ghoulybits a massive apology. I was hearing about how the "new" denizenship system was awful, and I joined the bandwagon. I attacked people like her and Shinrun over basically nothing. I am really sorry.
A lesson for all:
Improve your reading stamina.
Improve your reading stamina.
its funny seeing her explaining the same thing over and over-Remi wrote:
What Acromalia said.
Why are we being so negative and pressuring a single person?
Every time someone asks me the same question that I've answered just a couple posts up in the same thread, the urge to include a comment about sleeping with their mother in my response grows tenfold.Polyspora wrote:
its funny seeing her explaining the same thing over and over-Remi wrote:
What Acromalia said.
Why are we being so negative and pressuring a single person?
cute love you too ghoulybits <3ghoulybits wrote:
Every time someone asks me the same question that I've answered just a couple posts up in the same thread, the urge to include a comment about sleeping with their mother in my response grows tenfold.Polyspora wrote:
its funny seeing her explaining the same thing over and over-Remi wrote:
What Acromalia said.
Why are we being so negative and pressuring a single person?
Topic Starter
Let me make something clear: The OT! Government controls denizenship. I used to but not anymore.[ Sebastian ] wrote:
OT will turn into a hellhole if that starts happening. And considering abraker's stupid ideas, I would 100% expect him to do that.Patatitta wrote:
...problems start to surge if other people start revoking or get revoked due to not meeting the current criteria or being unhappy with the system, and we're basically 1 step away from that scenario
Dude, you are in the OT! Government. Are you sleeping under a rock?Corne2Plum3 wrote:
They can revoke denizenship now?
bro trying to escapeabraker wrote:
Let me make something clear: The OT! Government controls denizenship. I used to but not anymore.[ Sebastian ] wrote:
OT will turn into a hellhole if that starts happening. And considering abraker's stupid ideas, I would 100% expect him to do that.Patatitta wrote:
...problems start to surge if other people start revoking or get revoked due to not meeting the current criteria or being unhappy with the system, and we're basically 1 step away from that scenario
Anyway I already give up yesterday at this drama
Based unaware innocent Corne <3abraker wrote:
Dude, you are in the OT! Government. Are you sleeping under a rock?Corne2Plum3 wrote:
They can revoke denizenship now?
abraker wrote:
Let me make something clear: The OT! Government controls denizenship. I used to but not anymore.[ Sebastian ] wrote:
OT will turn into a hellhole if that starts happening. And considering abraker's stupid ideas, I would 100% expect him to do that.Patatitta wrote:
...problems start to surge if other people start revoking or get revoked due to not meeting the current criteria or being unhappy with the system, and we're basically 1 step away from that scenario
tl;dr please?
The TL;DR is please be active in the government channels again please please pleaseCorne2Plum3 wrote:
tl;dr please?
I don't know why I was following those random people over something so small. I make these mistakes a lot. I want to be normal and not have so many things wrong with me.
igorsprite had denizenship status revoked.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
tl;dr please?
the introduction of revocable denizenship was interpreted as a scary precedent toward unfair misuse of power and extrajudicial removal of people from the list of denizens.
people turned it into an unreasonably hyperbolic avalanche of complaints and severe misunderstandings about what qualifies denizenship and what qualifies it being revoked.
ghouly tried to clarify, people began to antagonize her and unfortunately failed to sit and listen for a moment.
after establishing that revoking denizenship is done in significantly fringe cases, and that nobody else is in danger of it at the moment, we seemed to have accepted it and quieted down.
i think his denizenship is revoked due to evidence (and a admittance according to abarker) that he is a pedoAchromalia wrote:
igorsprite had denizenship status revoked.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
tl;dr please?
the introduction of revocable denizenship was interpreted as a scary precedent toward unfair misuse of power and extrajudicial removal of people from the list of denizens.
people turned it into an unreasonably hyperbolic avalanche of complaints and severe misunderstandings about what qualifies denizenship and what qualifies it being revoked.
ghouly tried to clarify, people began to antagonize her and unfortunately failed to sit and listen for a moment.
after establishing that revoking denizenship is done in significantly fringe cases, and that nobody else is in danger of it at the moment, we seemed to have accepted it and quieted down.
It hurt reading all of that.
i think people seem to forget its literally just an imaginary title on a forum thread lol
I think this situation would be avoided if you guys only typed "we revoked igor denizenship because he didnt do shit and is a pedo this wont happen again my bad."
lmaoPolyspora wrote:
I think this situation would be avoided if you guys only typed "we revoked igor denizenship because he didnt do shit and is a pedo this wont happen again my bad."
Yeah, totally. People definitely read those posts too!Polyspora wrote:
I think this situation would be avoided if you guys only typed "we revoked igor denizenship because he didnt do shit and is a pedo this wont happen again my bad."
(though I do agree that there should have been more of an elaboration in the original statement)
It was between wall of texts that why some people missed it.ghoulybits wrote:
Yeah, totally. People definitely read those posts too!Polyspora wrote:
I think this situation would be avoided if you guys only typed "we revoked igor denizenship because he didnt do shit and is a pedo this wont happen again my bad."
(though I do agree that there should have been more of an elaboration in the original statement)
imma be honest there has been way too many denizen posts here i just stopped caring to read em lolghoulybits wrote:
Yeah, totally. People definitely read those posts too!Polyspora wrote:
I think this situation would be avoided if you guys only typed "we revoked igor denizenship because he didnt do shit and is a pedo this wont happen again my bad."
(though I do agree that there should have been more of an elaboration in the original statement)
y'all nerds
yeah i'm out of this disscusion, said what I felt to shinrun in DM, if I end up getting denizen (aparrently I cant reject it) that shows that thy system is just fucked, since I do not deserve it contribution-wise, my clears on everything else are clear if you read this thread, and it doesn't seem that my feedback is going to make it to change
bro just take it
Topic Starter
NOTICE
Despite the current turbulent mayhem and controversial decisions taken, things shall progress as they did. Today the OT! parliament has passed a vote to bestow the great title of denizen to a fellow dweller. Except the title is not great and means nothing, so- ahem. This individual’s activity is rather lackluster compared to others however their contribution is without a doubt one of a kind. Their talent and love for the OT community landed not one but two of their creations in OT’s Royal Museum of Art. Their work has captured the beginnings of 9th gen and brought many denizens together through his collabs. Give a round of applause to synthwavesquid! Oh Wait holup, I've been told they leveled up - fun stuff. Give 8x rounds of applause to octowave!
Written by ShinRun, editorialized by abrakerNice 👏
Here's to seeing more of your artworks here, octo. 🥂
oc-to-wave! oc-to-wave! oc-to-wave!
[celebratory bone-rattling]
[celebratory bone-rattling]
Congrats octowave 🥳🥳🥳
2nd addition to 9th gen
it's been a while
it's been a while
i can't wait until they make some foundational thread in OT that kickstarts a whole new lore arc, to celebrate their newfound denizenship
maybe, i'm just hoping for more OT shenanigans that aren't just meta issues
idk octowave can do whatever they want x'D
maybe, i'm just hoping for more OT shenanigans that aren't just meta issues
idk octowave can do whatever they want x'D
congrats
gg
I like how people fear mongered each other that the Gov is gonna kick others out of denizenship because they kicked out a disgusting pedophile.
Somehow a group of people you fuckers voted in power for (in which they barely has any and didn't do much with it anyways) is more villainous and evil than a guy who's unapologetically pedophillic, posted cp in the Discord server and did other disgusting shits that's caused his exile.
Somehow a group of people you fuckers voted in power for (in which they barely has any and didn't do much with it anyways) is more villainous and evil than a guy who's unapologetically pedophillic, posted cp in the Discord server and did other disgusting shits that's caused his exile.
i can't deny that there are excellent points here, nor can that glaring spotlight on the irony be dismissed.Tad Fibonacci wrote:
I like how people fear mongered each other that the Gov is gonna kick others out of denizenship because they kicked out a disgusting pedophile.
Somehow a group of people you fuckers voted in power for (in which they barely has any and didn't do much with it anyways) is more villainous and evil than a guy who's unapologetically pedophillic, posted cp in the Discord server and did other disgusting shits that's caused his exile.
though to be fair, maybe not all of them were involved in the voting process, therefore not really being capable of being held responsible for ot!government elections, as they'd likely been new at the time if my uninformed guess is correct. it also can be difficult to see things in as clear a scope as this due to how ot!government content is published in the subforum to an extent of prevalence that speaks more to the effectiveness of the roleplay in a sense.
this also isn't too dissimilar from general mechanisms of internet commentary to begin with, in that it can be difficult to differentiate the real scale of things once you're immersed, and people can grow easily agitated and vigilant through this immersion in the internet as a medium for communication, including any form of conflict. that's where we might take something personally, often venturing to do something about it-- even when it's hardly constructive-- like fearmongering about a concern.
not that this fundamentally changes anything, just a note of trivially subtle clarifying factors to consider before the dwellers of OT are held responsible.
no worries, i wouldn't hold you to anythingoctowave wrote:
i'm trying, achrom.... -v-Achromalia wrote:
i can't wait until they make some foundational thread in OT that kickstarts a whole new lore arc, to celebrate their newfound denizenship
maybe, i'm just hoping for more OT shenanigans that aren't just meta issues
idk octowave can do whatever they want x'D
it's just difficult coming up with a thread idea that i think people will want to participate in
and i'm terrible at improv, so that's something i have to work around
there'll be something big someday, i just don't know what or when
if you ever plan to though, i'd say i think my start here turned out pretty similarly. it comes with time and exposure to experience with doing it yourself :>
I am always late for his collabs, hopefully I'll be able to secure a spot next time
Is it okay to reserve a spot in advance?octowave wrote:
i already have a date decided for the next one if that helps-Remi wrote:
I am always late for his collabs, hopefully I'll be able to secure a spot next time
20th nov 2023
it's a thematic thing
Oh good another denizen, congrats!
I was thinking, I know it doesnt make him innocent but what if igor was just trying really hard to be edgy?
That still wouldn't change the fact that he was clearly aware that his actions were wrong and had been given multiple different warnings, none of which he listened to.Polyspora wrote:
I was thinking, I know it doesnt make him innocent but what if igor was just trying really hard to be edgy?
just a game theoryghoulybits wrote:
That still wouldn't change the fact that he was clearly aware that his actions were wrong and had been given multiple different warnings, none of which he listened to.Polyspora wrote:
I was thinking, I know it doesnt make him innocent but what if igor was just trying really hard to be edgy?
at some point it stops mattering if it was done "ironically" and is still just a fucked up thing to do/say.Polyspora wrote:
I was thinking, I know it doesnt make him innocent but what if igor was just trying really hard to be edgy?
much of what he's done is over that line
Polyspora wrote:
I was thinking, I know it doesnt make him innocent but what if igor was just trying really hard to be edgy?
ghoulybits wrote:
That still wouldn't change the fact that he was clearly aware that his actions were wrong and had been given multiple different warnings, none of which he listened to.
WitherMite wrote:
at some point it stops mattering if it was done "ironically" and is still just a fucked up thing to do/say.
much of what he's done is over that line
precisely. it would be a classic scenario of playing stupid games, winning stupid prizes. there really wouldn't be anything more to expect of it after ignoring the efforts previously described, and so the case is effectively shut, cut, and dried.
edgy and actually meaning the thing might as well be the same thing since it would be hard to tell intentWitherMite wrote:
at some point it stops mattering if it was done "ironically" and is still just a fucked up thing to do/say.Polyspora wrote:
I was thinking, I know it doesnt make him innocent but what if igor was just trying really hard to be edgy?
much of what he's done is over that line
Topic Starter
Fuck around and find outPolyspora wrote:
I was thinking, I know it doesnt make him innocent but what if igor was just trying really hard to be edgy?
Really poor word choice for the situation lolabraker wrote:
Fuck around and find outPolyspora wrote:
I was thinking, I know it doesnt make him innocent but what if igor was just trying really hard to be edgy?
It's hard to think that everyone was complaining about the OT government a few days ago. Now it seems like nobody cares.
I lost interest, people took it too seriously. government havent made an alliance with us yet, so I'll keep shitting on them lmao[ Sebastian ] wrote:
It's hard to think that everyone was complaining about the OT government a few days ago. Now it seems like nobody cares.
People are able to continue to complain if they wish, but I can't say I'll be too inclined to respond if the only complaints are either about things that we've already addressed or things that aren't true/won't happen.[ Sebastian ] wrote:
It's hard to think that everyone was complaining about the OT government a few days ago. Now it seems like nobody cares.
ghoulybits wrote:
People are able to continue to complain if they wish, but I can't say I'll be too inclined to respond if the only complaints are either about things that we've already addressed or things that aren't true/won't happen.[ Sebastian ] wrote:
It's hard to think that everyone was complaining about the OT government a few days ago. Now it seems like nobody cares.
Jar, get off manishh's accountManishh wrote:
ghoulybits wrote:
People are able to continue to complain if they wish, but I can't say I'll be too inclined to respond if the only complaints are either about things that we've already addressed or things that aren't true/won't happen.[ Sebastian ] wrote:
It's hard to think that everyone was complaining about the OT government a few days ago. Now it seems like nobody cares.
Topic Starter
NOTICE
Following the announcement of octowave’s entry as a denizen, we are back to follow up with another member. Consisting of more than 10 months wasted in OT, this member has proven their worth to claim the title of a denizen. With their iconic perfectly round head, sexy slim shape, and minimalist appearance, they have helped set the building block for the 9th generation and all the people, creatures, aliens, and abominations that dwell within it. The OT! Parliament is pleased to welcome Stomiks of the non-essential quintuplet as the third 9th generation denizen!
Written by ShinRun, editorialized by abrakerbut which gen am i, confusion noises
looks great tbh
looks great tbh
Congrats to Stomiks! But this begs a question. How often are you guys electing new denizens?
Stomiks pog
You have to be active on OT for 8 months before you can qualify to be denizen. Gen 9 might still be open by that time.Ryu Sei wrote:
but which gen am i, confusion noises
looks great tbh
Topic Starter
We got a few lined up, but I want to space them out by a week at the very least. Doing them all at once is ehhh[ Sebastian ] wrote:
Congrats to Stomiks! But this begs a question. How often are you guys electing new denizens?
i hope i'll be next which i'm more likely not, btw congrats Stomiks. after 10 fricking months, you finally are in the history books 🥳🥳🥳abraker wrote:
We got a few lined up, but I want to space them out by a week at the very least. Doing them all at once is ehhh[ Sebastian ] wrote:
Congrats to Stomiks! But this begs a question. How often are you guys electing new denizens?
I know you guys won’t believe it but I also knew Stomiks would be the next denizenoctowave wrote:
i was expecting stomiks to be the next denizen as wellKaaruumii wrote:
I LITERALLY CALLED IT
GRATS BROTHER!!
LET'S GOOOOOO
Damn I got denizenship on Christmas day. Thanks for the Christmas present guys.
Congrats!
Well fucking deserved 👏👏
Topic Starter
not youB0ii wrote:
Who's next?
"obviously"abraker wrote:
not youB0ii wrote:
Who's next?
Becoming a denizen doesn't matter that much. The only real advantage you get is having a title that's specific to this subforum. A denizen like Stomiks and a Dweller like me realistically basically have the same level of "advantageness".
Stomiks wrote:
Damn I got denizenship on Christmas day. Thanks for the Christmas present guys.
You get to run and vote in elections[ Sebastian ] wrote:
Becoming a denizen doesn't matter that much. The only real advantage you get is having a title that's specific to this subforum. A denizen like Stomiks and a Dweller like me realistically basically have the same level of "advantageness".
There's that too, but my main point is denizen isn't something that gives you a lot of advantages like supporter.Stomiks wrote:
You get to run and vote in elections[ Sebastian ] wrote:
Becoming a denizen doesn't matter that much. The only real advantage you get is having a title that's specific to this subforum. A denizen like Stomiks and a Dweller like me realistically basically have the same level of "advantageness".
u also get a pat on the back by abraker[ Sebastian ] wrote:
There's that too, but my main point is denizen isn't something that gives you a lot of advantages like supporter.Stomiks wrote:
You get to run and vote in elections[ Sebastian ] wrote:
Becoming a denizen doesn't matter that much. The only real advantage you get is having a title that's specific to this subforum. A denizen like Stomiks and a Dweller like me realistically basically have the same level of "advantageness".
you do?Cerno wrote:
u also get a pat on the back by abraker[ Sebastian ] wrote:
There's that too, but my main point is denizen isn't something that gives you a lot of advantages like supporter.Stomiks wrote:
You get to run and vote in elections[ Sebastian ] wrote:
Becoming a denizen doesn't matter that much. The only real advantage you get is having a title that's specific to this subforum. A denizen like Stomiks and a Dweller like me realistically basically have the same level of "advantageness".
You will not get that just for visiting a forum[ Sebastian ] wrote:
There's that too, but my main point is denizen isn't something that gives you a lot of advantages like supporter.Stomiks wrote:
You get to run and vote in elections[ Sebastian ] wrote:
Becoming a denizen doesn't matter that much. The only real advantage you get is having a title that's specific to this subforum. A denizen like Stomiks and a Dweller like me realistically basically have the same level of "advantageness".
Advantages
Get to run for the president/parliamnet member
Get to join collabs
Get to join denzin only stuff
People will recognize you in future if you spent long enough time like you were some legendary 💩💩💩
Are people going to throw their opinions around every time someone becomes Denizen?
Say your grats and shut the fuck up Σ(･ω･ﾉ)
Say your grats and shut the fuck up Σ(･ω･ﾉ)
-Remi wrote:
Are people going to throw their opinions around every time someone becomes Denizen?
Say your grats and shut the fuck up Σ(･ω･ﾉ)
The main thing I'm communicating is I don't get why some people try to achieve denizen like it's sone kind of ancient treasure worth a fortune.Manishh wrote:
You will not get that just for visiting a forum[ Sebastian ] wrote:
There's that too, but my main point is denizen isn't something that gives you a lot of advantages like supporter.Stomiks wrote:
You get to run and vote in elections[ Sebastian ] wrote:
Becoming a denizen doesn't matter that much. The only real advantage you get is having a title that's specific to this subforum. A denizen like Stomiks and a Dweller like me realistically basically have the same level of "advantageness".
Advantages
Get to run for the president/parliamnet member
Get to join collabs
Get to join denzin only stuff
People will recognize you in future if you spent long enough time like you were some legendary 💩💩💩
I'm not trying to say how the denizenship system is messed up. Like I said before, I'm just ranting about how sone people imagine being a denizen as way more than it actually is.-Remi wrote:
Are people going to throw their opinions around every time someone becomes Denizen?
Say your grats and shut the fuck up Σ(･ω･ﾉ)