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System Of A Down - Aerials

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Alarido
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on quarta-feira, 4 de fevereiro de 2015 at 15:55:48

Artist: System Of A Down
Title: Aerials
Tags: SOAD Alternative Metal Toxicity VEVO Daron Malakian Serj Tankian Shavo Odadjian John Dolmayan Danizudo Killuminati
BPM: 80
Filesize: 19119kb
Play Time: 03:53
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1,34 stars, 163 notes)
  2. Freedom (3,76 stars, 490 notes)
  3. Hard (2,64 stars, 343 notes)
  4. Normal (1,94 stars, 247 notes)
Download: System Of A Down - Aerials
Download: System Of A Down - Aerials (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Play it with VIDEO. With ALL DIFFS by ME.

NEED MODS AND BATS (:
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The [Freedom] diff is Insane level -- beware of the jumps hehe ^^ No streams, because they don't fit to the song.
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This is a multi-timing song. Along about 7 monts (before mapping the diffs) I put a lot of effort here for finding the correct timing, working more likely every week, for some times, too many days. By try and error, trying find the path through each try and each error, seeking for the light with my soul and body. Now 80 BPM surprisingly regular! Timing completely revamped by Sieg. Thank you very much ^^
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Hitsounding completely revamped by Dexfrild. (new .wav files and changed diffs -- to be completed soon) Thank you very much ^^
Kazuya too (raised volume of some drum files and 1 normal-hitnormal)
Also I'd re-worked video size by myself (reduced from 17 to 11 MB)
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"Aerials in the sky
When you lose small mind you free your life
Aerials... So up high
When you free your eyes eternal prize"

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[I'm Very Thankful for...]
Modders
UndeadBananaz ← Amazing timing :)
NoYzE
Mashley
Cosmolade
pkmnyab
Project Railgun
DexFrild (also full hitsounding support, thank you ^^)
-Bakari-
Kibbleru
Mezzaten
Helios_Zul
Sieg
Supporters and Other People
→ AlexaBM
→ -Bakari-
→ Polaco
→ Sieg
→ Mezzaten
→ Mashley
→ Shiinzuu
→ Kytoxid
→ Valseem
→ Maldita Sea
→ Anonymous
→ thelewa
→ Danizudo (from his blog KIP - Knowledge is Power), from where I saw this song first time...but idk I looked in his site for this song and no longer found it :( ...
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[Changelog]
2015-02-04 > QUALIFIED !!!! Thanks Evertyone !!! :3
2015-02-04 > Fixing advices by Sonnyc. (including last spinner in Hard and adjust in combo colour). Thanks (:
2015-02-04 > Bubbled by Sieg.
2015-02-04 > Last fixing advices by Sieg (except Video quality as stated @ p/3817975
2015-01-30 > Apllied complete hitsounding assistance from Dexfrild (: and Updated (:
2015-01-21 > Tried to improve hitsounding (in which I'm seriously weak ><)
2015-01-20 > Fixed last Video sync issues. Now more aacurate video sync timing.
2015-01-20 > Timing changes made by Sieg on Freedom were replicated on all other diffs (Easy/Normal/Hard) with success, with their respective adaptations. Now newly ready for modding! (THANKS SIEG FOR REVAMPING TIMING)
2015-01-19 > New .mp3 file by Sieg, with new timing settings.
2014-12-05 > Revived from Eternal Slumber twice. Waiting for some BRAVE BATs to make this Qualified map.
2014-09-20 > Tweaked flow to create some jumps at Insane diff, and renamed it to [Freedom]. Hope they like the jumps ^^
2014-08-25 > Decided to remove the Taiko diffs from the mapset, since they worth nothing.
2014-07-20 > Fixed a few mistakes in the Taiko diffs.
2014-07-01 > Added Taiko diffs by myself! It's my very FIRST TIME on submitting my own Taiko maps o_o There's a bunch of errors! Taiko Modders, please be very patient, since I'm a complete newbie-novice on Taiko mapping (: (Also I plan mod Taiko diffs).
2014-06-28 > Adjusted a bit the difficulty settings on [Aerials], but it still holding an (H) orange icon >< Streamless Insane due to lack of 1/4 notes on the song, and I dislike overmapping.
2014-06-14 > Fixed one unsnapped slider at [Easy] diff
2014-06-02 > Changed video to a better quality one, thanks to Helios_Zul ^.^
2014-05-17 > Diff name changed: from Insane to Aerials. Fells more stylish.
2014-05-12 > Video changed and Insane's AR adjusted to 8 (before, it was 9!) in behalf of Mezzaten advice, thanks (:
2014-05-04 > Revived from graveyard. Let's wait for the BATs vigilantly, not sleepingly.
2014-04-06 > Updated to avoid graveyardment (:
2014-03-04 > Applied M4M from Kibbleru, thanks ^^
2014-02-21 > Applied mods from -Bakari-, thanks ^^
2014-02-19 > Applied M4M from DexFrild and some advice by -Bakari-, thanks ^^
2014-02-18 > Applied mods from Project Railgun, thanks ^^
2014-02-02 > Applied mods from pkmnyab, thanks ^^
2014-01-21 > Applied mods from Cosmolade, thanks ^^
2014-01-20 > Changed weird pattern on [Insane] and some BG under Mashley's advice, thanks ^^
2014-01-18 > Fixed hitsounding on last notes on [Insane] from NoYzE.
2014-01-15 > Some hitsound modding on [Insane] from NoYzE, thanks ^^
2014-01-14 > Diff [Insane] completed! Mapset moved to Pending realm! Now let's start getting mods!
2014-01-13 > Status of [Insane]: 87% mapped and going ahead and carefully.
2014-01-12 > Status of [Insane]: 73% 78% mapped and going ahead and carefully.
2014-01-11 > Status of [Insane]: 60% 68% mapped and going ahead and carefully.
2014-01-10 > Status of [Insane]: 53% mapped and going ahead and carefully.
2014-01-09 > Status of [Insane]: 47% mapped and going ahead and carefully.
2014-01-08 > Applied mods from NoYzE, thanks ^^
2014-01-08 > Updated timing from UndeadBananaz (; Thanks ^.^ (Saving the more accurate timing settings to server, Insane still WIP)
2014-01-06 > Status of [Insane]: 19% mapped and going ahead and carefully. Perhaps I put a bit of jlfj's mixed with Larto's and mighty something wilder too...
2014-01-05 > Video included, BG image changed to a more fitting one.
2014-01-05 > Completed [Hard] and [Normal] and [Easy] in net-off days (superb heat 40ºC in Rio drives me to Insane+ mood orz). It stills WIP because [Insane] is coming soon.
2013-12-29 > Status of [Hard]: 70% mapped and going ahead. Pausing in behalf of a storm coming here ><
2013-12-29 > Status of [Hard]: 50% 68% mapped and going ahead. I hope start [Normal] as soon as possible.
2013-12-23 > Started mapping [Hard].
2013-12-23 > Applied Timing scheme from UndeadBananaz. Thanks ^^
2013-12-22 > After several months on working its timing, decided upload it
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UndeadBananaz
Hi, I noticed this timing request in modreqs and decided to help out since I love this song.

I have to say though, this song's timing is really difficult! I never imagined it would need so many timing points.

[TimingPoints]
9930,383.946835443039,4,2,0,100,1,0
22181,377.946835443038,4,2,0,100,1,0
31251,370.399999999999,4,2,0,100,1,0
34189,376.1,4,2,0,100,1,0
40198,372.670807453416,4,2,0,100,1,0
46160,380.958490566039,4,2,0,100,1,0
52255,376.746835443037,4,2,0,100,1,0
58282,377.700000000001,4,2,0,100,1,0
64325,376.458490566038,4,2,0,100,1,0
70348,378.800000000001,4,2,0,100,1,0
76405,377.3,4,2,0,100,1,0
88478,376.058490566037,4,2,0,100,1,0
98984,369.099999999999,4,2,0,100,1,0
100456,375.6,4,2,0,100,1,0
106465,372.8,4,2,0,100,1,0
112429,379.500000000001,4,2,0,100,1,0
118501,377.700000000001,4,2,0,100,1,0
124544,379.200000000001,4,2,0,100,1,0
130611,375.7,4,2,0,100,1,0
136622,379.900000000001,4,2,0,100,1,0
142710,369.799999999999,4,2,0,100,1,0
148626,356.742857142857,4,2,0,100,1,0
160041,360.836363636363,4,2,0,100,1,0
165814,364.845783132531,4,2,0,100,1,0
171674,368.07037037037,4,2,0,100,1,0
183449,367.499999999998,4,2,0,100,1,0
206968,369.098159509203,4,2,0,100,1,0
218785,366.629585798819,4,2,0,100,1,0

Try out this timing and tell me if it sounds good, or adjust it wherever you feel it needs a change. (But the BPM is basically double the one you used.) Also, I wasn't sure if you wanted to map the intro (first 30 seconds of the song), but I added the BPM for it anyway; but I suggest you skip the intro because it might not be very accurate.

Good luck with this map, I will be looking forward to it!
Topic Starter
Alarido
Thank you for your timing help ^^ It feels (to me) more accurate than mine (:

:3

I'll leave the intro unmapped, letting all players enjoy (a bit of) the video before playing :3
Klaun_old
Can I make a GD? Easy diff? Ah, just saw what you have written
AlexaBM
Alarido, rank this map please. osu! needs more SOAD <33
UndeadBananaz
Hi, I kept checking the map often for updates, and after playing it I noticed that my timing was not accurate in some parts (sorry about that lol), so I tried to fix it.

Here's an updated bpm:

9930,383.946835443039,3,2,2,40,1,0
22181,377.946835443038,4,2,2,40,1,0
31251,370.399999999999,4,2,2,40,1,0
34189,374.6,4,2,2,80,1,0
40174,373.970807453416,4,2,2,80,1,0
46160,380.958490566039,4,2,2,80,1,0
52255,376.746835443037,4,2,2,80,1,0
58282,377.700000000001,4,2,2,80,1,0
64312,376.458490566038,4,2,2,80,1,0
70348,378.800000000001,4,2,2,80,1,0
76405,377.3,4,2,2,40,1,0
88478,376.058490566037,4,2,2,40,1,0
98984,369.099999999999,4,2,2,60,1,0
100456,375.6,4,2,2,80,1,0
106465,371.1,4,2,2,80,1,0
112429,379.500000000001,4,2,2,80,1,0
118501,377.700000000001,4,2,2,80,1,0
124544,379.200000000001,4,2,2,80,1,0
130611,375.7,4,2,2,80,1,0
136622,379.900000000001,4,2,2,80,1,0
142710,369.799999999999,4,2,2,80,1,0
148626,356.742857142857,4,2,2,80,1,0
160041,360.836363636363,4,2,2,80,1,1
165814,364.845783132531,4,2,2,80,1,1
171674,368.07037037037,4,2,2,80,1,1
183449,367.499999999998,4,2,2,40,1,0
195208,370.118159509203,4,2,2,40,1,0
201129,367.499999999998,4,2,2,40,1,0
206968,369.098159509203,4,2,2,40,1,0
218785,366.629585798819,4,2,2,40,1,0

I only modified the timing points that start on 00:40, 01:04 and 01:46. Those 3 parts felt a little inaccurate so I changed the offset and bpm a little.

Please try it out and see if it feels better.

I will be eagerly awaiting Insane difficulty for now.
Hezee
finish it ! is cool
Topic Starter
Alarido
Updated timing fixes, thank you UndeadBananaz

And thank you all for support ;) Let's tread the path to success ^.^

So up high!
NoYzE
[Easy]
00:34:750 (2) - Offbeat? It's easy :/
01:41:770 (2) - Same (there are others following i won't list)
I think it's ok but you may frustrate new players ;)

Despite that, very nice.

[Normal]
Umm.... just... Awesome :P

[Hard]
01:16:030 (7) - Argh, hard to read, but it's fine for hard i guess.
01:38:984 (1) - This one is tricky, because it has overlap, no distance spacings and switch from 1/4 to 1/8
02:38:614 (1) - This one is much easier to read though it is basically the same ;)

[Insane]
I am looking forward for it to be finished, the start looks very nice :)

As always: If you like the parts, keep them, it's just my opinion ;)
Ah and: The timing is awesome :D
Topic Starter
Alarido

NoYzE wrote:

[Easy]
00:34:750 (2) - Offbeat? It's easy :/ ► Fixed (it was my fault :o when fixing timing)
01:41:770 (2) - Same (there are others following i won't list) ► This one was made in purpose (notice both voice and drums falling in this red tick, which makes him stronger). All the others I found were fixed by making them match the voice.
I think it's ok but you may frustrate new players ;)

Despite that, very nice.

[Normal]
Umm.... just... Awesome :P ► Thanks ^.^

[Hard]
01:16:030 (7) - Argh, hard to read, but it's fine for hard i guess. ► I agree (: and it was done in purpose (part of mapping style)
01:38:984 (1) - This one is tricky, because it has overlap, no distance spacings and switch from 1/4 to 1/8 ► Hm... Moved (1) to x:392 y:104, so it'll form blanket with previous slider. And add flow.
02:38:614 (1) - This one is much easier to read though it is basically the same ;) ► It's just overlapping the previous 02:36:831 (5) - so kept it as currently it is.

[Insane]
I am looking forward for it to be finished, the start looks very nice :)

As always: If you like the parts, keep them, it's just my opinion ;)
Ah and: The timing is awesome :D
For the timing, I done some work, long months, and UnderadBananaz polished it very well (:

Thanks !!!!
Updated...
NoYzE

Alarido wrote:

► Fixed (it was my fault :o when fixing timing)
Very nice now.

Alarido wrote:

► This one was made in purpose (notice both voice and drums falling in this red tick, which makes him stronger).
You are right, it fits well with the beat and vocal and with it being the only one starting on offbeat now it is very reasonable and perfectly fine.

Alarido wrote:

► I agree (: and it was done in purpose (part of mapping style)
Yea i see now it is visible and very nicely leading into the spin. (Didn't notice because i spin clockwise xD) Probably wasn't paying enough attention at the part, my fault.

Alarido wrote:

► Hm... Moved (1) to x:392 y:104, so it'll form blanket with previous slider. And add flow.
Perfect!

Alarido wrote:

► It's just overlapping the previous 02:36:831 (5) - so kept it as currently it is.
Sorry if i confused you here, it was actually not meant to be a mod request but instead i wanted you to show, that you already did this one good and i wanted you to make the previous one to be the same, what you now did.

I'm very happy with the mapset now and i think this shouldn't have much problems to get ranked after some polish from more experienced modders :)
Keep up the good work!
Topic Starter
Alarido

NoYzE wrote:

I'm very happy with the mapset now and i think this shouldn't have much problems to get ranked after some polish from more experienced modders :)
Keep up the good work!
Well... I hope finish the map as soon as possible, and so getting it modded and then... Ranked!

And I can't deny ~.~ I'm quite surprised for your reply to my reply (: Nice and good to see :D

I like to answer the mods as deep as they do, so everybody can learn and evolve (: it's the way the community can grow better imho ~.~

Att.
Topic Starter
Alarido
Insane diff completed!!!

All diffs completed! Let's start getting MODS!!!!
NoYzE
Couldn't find anything wrong with Insane spacing or flow O_o
It's very smooth and cool to play i think ;)

Your hit sounds are pretty cool too, using claps for the snare drum is very good :P

But i found some you might want to look into:


[Insane]
00:35:500 (3) - Snare
00:36:623 (6) - Snare
00:53:008 (3) - Pretty silent but i think there is one too at the slider end
01:02:625 (4) - Here the clap is at the end, while it should be at the start
01:08:076 (5) - Clap missing start and end(?)
01:09:017 (7) - Is there a snare?
01:09:958 (10) - There may be one too
01:16:030 (9) - Snare
01:50:918 (6) - Snare
01:51:474 (9) - Snare
02:02:278 (5) - Snare at the end too
02:03:222 (7) - Snare
02:07:198 (7) - Snare
02:08:904 (4) - Snare
02:14:368 (3) - Snare at the end
02:17:381 (2) - Snare
02:17:951 (3) - Snare
02:19:281 (6) - Snare
02:22:710 (1) - Snare
02:23:449 (2) - Snare (clap + finish)
02:24:189 (3) - "*"
02:24:928 (4) - "*"
02:26:408 (3) - "*"
02:27:147 (1) - "*"
02:27:887 (3) - "*"
02:28:626 (1) - Snare at the end
02:29:161 (2) - "*"
02:30:766 (6) - Snare
02:31:479 (1) - Snare at the end
02:32:015 (2) - "*"
02:33:620 (6) - Snare
02:34:333 (1) - Snare at the end
02:34:869 (2) - "*"
02:37:544 (2) - Snare
02:38:079 (4) - Snare
02:48:003 (5) - Snare
02:55:170 (2) - This slider is too long!(?) and the sliders after it timed too late to fit the rhythm(?) check it out
03:04:000 (2) - rim in the middle
03:06:939 (2) - "*"
03:14:473 (7) - Snare
03:15:763 (2) - rim in the middle
03:15:763 (2) - "*"
03:26:273 (4) - Rim
Topic Starter
Alarido

NoYzE wrote:

Couldn't find anything wrong with Insane spacing or flow O_o
It's very smooth and cool to play i think ;)

Your hit sounds are pretty cool too, using claps for the snare drum is very good :P

But i found some you might want to look into:

► In the next lines, Y means Added and N means Not added.

[Insane]
00:35:500 (3) - Snare ► Y
00:36:623 (6) - Snare ► Y
00:53:008 (3) - Pretty silent but i think there is one too at the slider end ► No.... (Maybe the noisy song making me almost-deaf to it ><)
01:02:625 (4) - Here the clap is at the end, while it should be at the start ► Swapped the ones.
01:08:076 (5) - Clap missing start and end(?) ► Y
01:09:017 (7) - Is there a snare? ► Y
01:09:958 (10) - There may be one too ► Y
01:16:030 (9) - Snare ► Y
01:50:918 (6) - Snare ► Y
01:51:474 (9) - Snare ► Y
02:02:278 (5) - Snare at the end too ► Y
02:03:222 (7) - Snare ► Y
02:07:198 (7) - Snare ► Y
02:08:904 (4) - Snare ► Y
02:14:368 (3) - Snare at the end ► Y
02:17:381 (2) - Snare ► Y
02:17:951 (3) - Snare ► Y
02:19:281 (6) - Snare ► Y
02:22:710 (1) - Snare ► Y
02:23:449 (2) - Snare (clap + finish) ► Y
02:24:189 (3) - "*" ► I didn't understood this "*".... What the asterisks say to me? (the same for all following "*")
02:24:928 (4) - "*"
02:26:408 (3) - "*"
02:27:147 (1) - "*"
02:27:887 (3) - "*"
02:28:626 (1) - Snare at the end ► Y
02:29:161 (2) - "*"
02:30:766 (6) - Snare ► Y
02:31:479 (1) - Snare at the end ► Y
02:32:015 (2) - "*"
02:33:620 (6) - Snare ► Y
02:34:333 (1) - Snare at the end ► Y
02:34:869 (2) - "*"
02:37:544 (2) - Snare ► Y
02:38:079 (4) - Snare ► Y
02:48:003 (5) - Snare ► Y
02:55:170 (2) - This slider is too long!(?) and the sliders after it timed too late to fit the rhythm(?) check it out ► As seen on previous parts, following the bg sounds along the middle beats.
03:04:000 (2) - rim in the middle ► I didn't understood what means "rim" in this context. It seems took the place of another word (clap, whistle, silence etc.). Silencing discarded because against the rules.
03:06:939 (2) - "*"
03:14:473 (7) - Snare ► Y
03:15:763 (2) - rim in the middle
03:15:763 (2) - "*"
03:26:273 (4) - Rim

Thanks!
NoYzE

Alarido wrote:

► I didn't understood this "*".... What the asterisks say to me? (the same for all following "*")

Oh, sorry it should just mean "the same as above".
So when i when i was writing "Snare (clap + finish)" and after "*" i just meant "the same" so an other "Snare (clap + finish)"


► I didn't understood what means "rim" in this context. It seems took the place of another word (clap, whistle, silence etc.). Silencing discarded because against the rules.

Sorry too if it was confusing, it's a drum technique where you don't hit the snaredrum with the stick, but lay your stick down on the snaredrum and just hit the edge (rim) of the snaredrum. It's known as "RimClick".
It's commonly used for quieter, softer parts, because it isn't so aggressive like a full snaredrum hit.

So, basically i just wanted to say to you: "There should be a clap/whistle" just like when i said "Snare".
Ghost Reaver
here, take my love
and change your bg, horrible quality ):
Topic Starter
Alarido

Ghost Reaver wrote:

here, take my love
and change your bg, horrible quality ):

Wow ~.~

About the BG, how more people complain on it, how more chance we get to me bring back that first BG (HAARP Antenna Set).
Topic Starter
Alarido

NoYzE wrote:

► I didn't understood this "*".... What the asterisks say to me? (the same for all following "*")

Oh, sorry it should just mean "the same as above".
So when i when i was writing "Snare (clap + finish)" and after "*" i just meant "the same" so an other "Snare (clap + finish)"
Hm... Feels good (:

NoYzE wrote:

► I didn't understood what means "rim" in this context. It seems took the place of another word (clap, whistle, silence etc.). Silencing discarded because against the rules.

Sorry too if it was confusing, it's a drum technique where you don't hit the snaredrum with the stick, but lay your stick down on the snaredrum and just hit the edge (rim) of the snaredrum. It's known as "RimClick".
It's commonly used for quieter, softer parts, because it isn't so aggressive like a full snaredrum hit.

So, basically i just wanted to say to you: "There should be a clap/whistle" just like when i said "Snare".
Ok, Ok. Let's do it!

NoYzE wrote:

(...)
► In the next lines, Y means Added and N means Not added.

[Insane]
(...)

02:24:189 (3) - "*" ► Ok
02:24:928 (4) - "*" ► Ok
02:26:408 (3) - "*" ► Ok
02:27:147 (1) - "*" ► Ok
02:27:887 (3) - "*" ► Ok
02:28:626 (1) - Snare at the end ► Y
02:29:161 (2) - "*" ► Ok
02:30:766 (6) - Snare ► Y
02:31:479 (1) - Snare at the end ► Y
02:32:015 (2) - "*" ► Ok
02:33:620 (6) - Snare ► Y
02:34:333 (1) - Snare at the end ► Y
02:34:869 (2) - "*" ► Ok
03:04:000 (2) - rim in the middle ► Ok
03:06:939 (2) - "*" ► Ok
03:14:473 (7) - Snare ► Y
03:15:763 (2) - rim in the middle ► Ok
03:15:763 (2) - "*" ► Ok
03:26:273 (4) - Rim ► Ok
Thanks!

Updated!
LucyS
Hii m4m
This song is amazing!
Here are some suggestions

Normal
00:45:409 - This slider start here
00:59:415 - try this:

02:05:871 (3) - slider starting here and ending in the same place

Hard
01:01:681 - end this here, and put a circle here 01:01:870 - maybe
01:44:963 - circle here
02:57:563 -
Topic Starter
Alarido
Hi^^

LucyS wrote:

Hii m4m
This song is amazing!
Here are some suggestions

Normal
00:45:409 - This slider start here ► Fixed and adjusted.
00:59:415 - try this:
► Liked the first suggestion, it fits better with the further patterns with no overlaps.

02:05:871 (3) - slider starting here and ending in the same place ► It's intentional and gives good flow.

Hard
01:01:681 - end this here, and put a circle here 01:01:870 - maybe ► Feels good c:
01:44:963 - circle here ► Instead, deleted previous circle at 01:44:775 (3) and placed a 1/2 slider in its place
02:57:563 - ► Feels amazing :3 Done !
Thank you ;)
Obrigadoooooooo!!!!!

Updated!
LucyS
Agora que eu vi que você fala portugues kkkk
agr já era :o
Mashley
Not going to properly mod but just posted to say I enjoyed the map and wish you the best of luck getting it ranked. :)

However you should definitely change the background image, at the moment it's very blurry and ugly. Just find a System of a Down themed wallpaper.

Also on insane this pattern 01:39:353 (2,3,4,5,6) - is very unfair and will trip a lot of players up. You should change it or at least make the jumps smaller.
Topic Starter
Alarido

Mashley wrote:

Not going to properly mod but just posted to say I enjoyed the map and wish you the best of luck getting it ranked. :)

However you should definitely change the background image, at the moment it's very blurry and ugly. Just find a System of a Down themed wallpaper. ► Ok.

Also on insane this pattern 01:39:353 (2,3,4,5,6) - is very unfair and will trip a lot of players up. You should change it or at least make the jumps smaller. ► Changed into an arc. A bit more Larto instead of star jumps :)
Thanks Mashley (:

Updated!
Cosmolade
Hello o3o
M4M~

[General]
  1. Love this music
[Easy]

Good~

- 01:50:918 (2) - Extend to white tick
- 01:53:947 (3) - Move this to 01:53:567 -delete the reverse, and extend the slider to 01:54:326 -and add a circle in 01:54:706 - ?

[Normal]

Nice owo

- 00:57:717 (4) - Move to previous white tick (- 00:57:529 -) and extend to white tick
- 00:59:603 (3) - Extend to red tick (- 01:00:737 -)
- 01:09:394 (4) - Move to white tick, and end the slider in white tick
- 01:51:474 (4) - ^
- 01:57:931 (4) - Move to previous white tick, and end the slider in white tick
- 02:03:599 (6) - Move to white tick, and end the slider in white tick
- 03:48:867 (1) - End the slider in red tick

[Hard]
Pretty hard, but avoid the sliders with +2 reverse, it's so confusing

- 00:31:251 (1,2) - ^
- 00:53:761 (4) - ^
- 00:57:717 (9) - Move to 00:57:529 -and add a reverse
- 01:46:465 (1) - Avoid +2 reverse.
- 01:47:949 (3) - ^
- 01:51:474 (6) - Move to white tik, - delete this note> 01:52:031 (7) -and add a circle in > 01:51:474
- 02:01:522 (1) - Avoid +2 reverse.
- 02:03:599 (4) - Move to white tick, - delete this note> 02:04:166 (5) -and add a circle in > 02:03:599
- 02:15:682 (4) - Move to white tick, end the slider in red tick, and add a circle in> 02:15:682

[Insane]
AMAZING
Check AImod, some objects are not snapped :3

- 02:03:788 - Add a note?

WOW, this Insane is so beautiful, Good Job :)

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Good luck with the map~ (*´•ω•)ノ(´•ω•`)
KFC user
I'm gonna mod some stuff, and give you a star. I love SOAD :)
Topic Starter
Alarido

Cosmolade wrote:

Hello o3o
M4M~

[General]
  1. Love this music
[Easy]

Good~

- 01:50:918 (2) - Extend to white tick ► Done.
- 01:53:947 (3) - Move this to 01:53:567 -delete the reverse, and extend the slider to 01:54:326 -and add a circle in 01:54:706 - ? ► It can be editor's bug, but it pointed me other different notes, so I got confused... And from the beginning, I found the voice and drums fall with their whole energy on this red tick at 01:53:757, and also it's consistent with other parts, then kept.

[Normal]

Nice owo

- 00:57:717 (4) - Move to previous white tick (- 00:57:529 -) and extend to white tick ► done
- 00:59:603 (3) - Extend to red tick (- 01:00:737 -) ► done
- 01:09:394 (4) - Move to white tick, and end the slider in white tick ► Following the strong drum, not the weaker one. Kept.
- 01:51:474 (4) - ^ ► ^
- 01:57:931 (4) - Move to previous white tick, and end the slider in white tick ► done
- 02:03:599 (6) - Move to white tick, and end the slider in white tick ► Kepy by consistency and mainly stronger beats
- 03:48:867 (1) - End the slider in red tick ► done

[Hard]
Pretty hard, but avoid the sliders with +2 reverse, it's so confusing ► not so much ~.~ and thinking like a guitarrist when he/she makes his/her instrument screams across the youngers, because he/she does the same often with the guitar's strings.

- 00:31:251 (1,2) - ^ ► kept.
- 00:53:761 (4) - ^ ► kept.
- 00:57:717 (9) - Move to 00:57:529 -and add a reverse ► no >< it would make flow and spacing so bad ><
- 01:46:465 (1) - Avoid +2 reverse. ► kept.
- 01:47:949 (3) - ^ ► kept.
- 01:51:474 (6) - Move to white tik, - delete this note> 01:52:031 (7) -and add a circle in > 01:51:474 ► done
- 02:01:522 (1) - Avoid +2 reverse. ► kept.
- 02:03:599 (4) - Move to white tick, - delete this note> 02:04:166 (5) -and add a circle in > 02:03:599 ► done
- 02:15:682 (4) - Move to white tick, end the slider in red tick, and add a circle in> 02:15:682 ► kept, since it fits and matchs to the level too

[Insane]
AMAZING
Check AImod, some objects are not snapped :3 ► done

- 02:03:788 - Add a note? ► done

WOW, this Insane is so beautiful, Good Job :)

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Good luck with the map~ (*´•ω•)ノ(´•ω•`)
Thanks for all ~.~

And let's still singing :D
pkk
[General]
From your M4M queue~

The preview point should be the exciting/powerful part of the song that makes people want to play it. That being said, I believe you should change the preview point to 00:34:214

BPM should be changed to 160. The BPM for most songs is a whole number and a multiple of 5.

[Normal]
00:35:312 (2,3,4) - Move the slider forward one tick in time and add a circle before it to match the beat and the vocalist singing "waterfall"

01:11:484 (2,3) - try arranging it like this to match the vocal:


01:44:212 (2,3) - I think this part sounds better if you arrange it like this:


01:50:918 (3,4) - sounds better to move and shorten (4) slider to match the guitar:


02:03:033 (5,6) - ^same as before


[Insane]
00:32:732 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Maybe arrange it in a circle to make it look better like this:

00:45:409 - The silence here is awkward, perhaps you can put a note here

00:57:341 (9,10) - consider moving the slider forward one tick in time and placing (10) before the slider to match the guitar like this:

If you really want to keep it the way it is, you can do it like this in some parts of the song and different in other parts.

01:09:394 (9,10) - ^same as before
01:51:474 (9,10) - ^
02:15:682 (7,8) - ^

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Anyways, have fun mapping!
Topic Starter
Alarido


pkmnyab wrote:

[General]
From your M4M queue~

The preview point should be the exciting/powerful part of the song that makes people want to play it. That being said, I believe you should change the preview point to 00:34:214

BPM should be changed to 160. The BPM for most songs is a whole number and a multiple of 5.

[Normal]
00:35:312 (2,3,4) - Move the slider forward one tick in time and add a circle before it to match the beat and the vocalist singing "waterfall" ► The singer starts to voice "waterfall" right at 00:35:500, so the slider should begin where it currently is ('dancing' at the slider while singer 'wa' (begin of slider) - 'ter' (at slider repeat) - 'fall' (at slider end) ... ) . No change.


01:11:484 (2,3) - try arranging it like this to match the vocal: ► Did something with further notes too.


01:44:212 (2,3) - I think this part sounds better if you arrange it like this: ► Nooo... it feels like Easy, and there are important beats to cover here. No changes.


01:50:918 (3,4) - sounds better to move and shorten (4) slider to match the guitar: ► It's focusing the beats consistently with other parts of the diff. No changes.


02:03:033 (5,6) - ^same as before ► Same as latter statement.


[Insane]
00:32:732 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Maybe arrange it in a circle to make it look better like this: ► FEELS GOOD ♥

00:45:409 - The silence here is awkward, perhaps you can put a note here ► This 'silence' is important part of the feelings. But.... I added a jump here instead (by Gtrl-G'ing the (6,7) notes).

00:57:341 (9,10) - consider moving the slider forward one tick in time and placing (10) before the slider to match the guitar like this: ► No changes: this is a special match to this part.

If you really want to keep it the way it is, you can do it like this in some parts of the song and different in other parts. ► It's good take a moderate cup of consistency. However, sometimes, excessive amounts have worse side effects (like sugar, salt, exercises, work. We need a bit of carbohidrates to stay alive, but excessive dosages make us fat and may one source of diabetes).

01:09:394 (9,10) - ^same as before ► Added a note.
01:51:474 (9,10) - ^ ► No change
02:15:682 (7,8) - ^ ► No change

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Anyways, have fun mapping!

Thanks for the modding (:
And let's keep singing ^^

Att.
Topic Starter
Alarido
Hey! Are you reading this?
Why not leave a mod post here?
If you like the song, would be great if you could leave a star (:

Let's increase song diversity in osu! repertoire ♡
Lobont_old
Don't let this die ffs. D:
Topic Starter
Alarido

Lobont wrote:

Don't let this die ffs. D:
Snaggletooth
I acctually wanted to mod this but.. This map is absolutly beautiful.. <3 I'd love to give you stars if I had any D:
Topic Starter
Alarido

Snaggletooth wrote:

I acctually wanted to mod this but.. This map is absolutly beautiful.. <3 I'd love to give you stars if I had any D:

Thanks f♡r supp♡rt
Eni
Hi Alarido~

Your beatmap is really good, but I found some minor grid symmetry issues.
[Easy]
01:34:494 (1) - this looks out of place to me but I can't seem to find a better way to place it without moving other things, so maybe it's ok.
[Normal]
00:44:287 (2, 4) - move slider 4 up so it matches Y axis with slider 2
03:32:873 (1, 2) - when you reverse selection on slider 1, you can see that slider 1 is (x,308) and slider 2 is (x,307).
[Hard]
00:40:921 (3, 6) - I do not see this pattern anywhere else in the song.. do you want to change it?
02:44:371 (4, 5) - when you reverse selection on slider 5, it is (x,235) and slider 4 is (x,236).
03:14:106 (6, 7) - slider 7 = (x,286) when the reverse slider 6 = (x,287)
[Insane]
01:43:460 (1, 3) - slider 1 is (x,196) but slider 3 is (x,195) when reverse
02:31:439 (1, 2) - slider 2 is (x,242) but slider 1 is (x,243) when reverse
02:40:221 (1, 2) - here is also a difference of (x,y+-1)
02:51:991 (1, 2) - same as 02:40:221 (1, 2) -
02:54:618 (1, 2) - ^
02:58:667 (1, 2) - ^

Good luck. :)
Topic Starter
Alarido

Project Railgun wrote:

Hi Alarido~

Your beatmap is really good, but I found some minor grid symmetry issues.
[Easy]
01:34:494 (1) - this looks out of place to me but I can't seem to find a better way to place it without moving other things, so maybe it's ok. ► Hm... its head makes a triangle with 01:32:990 (2,3) - and its head is blanketed by 01:35:623 (2) - so kept (:
[Normal]
00:44:287 (2, 4) - move slider 4 up so it matches Y axis with slider 2 ► No symmetry intended here.... For symmetry, both sliders should be same visual size, that's not the case here (due to rhythm).
03:32:873 (1, 2) - when you reverse selection on slider 1, you can see that slider 1 is (x,308) and slider 2 is (x,307). ► Fixed !
[Hard]
00:40:921 (3, 6) - I do not see this pattern anywhere else in the song.. do you want to change it? ► Modified some patterns.
02:44:371 (4, 5) - when you reverse selection on slider 5, it is (x,235) and slider 4 is (x,236). ► Fixed !
03:14:106 (6, 7) - slider 7 = (x,286) when the reverse slider 6 = (x,287) ► Fixed too !
[Insane]
01:43:460 (1, 3) - slider 1 is (x,196) but slider 3 is (x,195) when reverse ► Fixed too !
02:31:439 (1, 2) - slider 2 is (x,242) but slider 1 is (x,243) when reverse ► Fixed too !
02:40:221 (1, 2) - here is also a difference of (x,y+-1) ► Fixed too !
02:51:991 (1, 2) - same as 02:40:221 (1, 2) - ► Fixed too !
02:54:618 (1, 2) - ^ ► Fixed too !
02:58:667 (1, 2) - ^ ► Fixed too !

Good luck. :)
Thaaaank you very much :3 Railgun ~.~
DexFrild
awww amazing song. And map too :3 Оne of my favorite (and first) songs by SOAD.

Here some problems with snapping:

Easy

  • • 00:40:198 (1) - Unsnapped slider.
    • 00:40:198 (1) - Unsnapped slider.
    • 00:40:198 (1) - Unsnapped slider.
    • 01:55:072 (3) - Unsnapped circle.

Normal

  • • 01:51:497 (4) - Unsnapped slider.

Insane

  • • 00:40:198 (1) - Unsnapped circle.
    • 00:40:384 (2) - Unsnapped circle.
    • 00:40:570 (3) - Unsnapped circle.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

• 02:32:905 (4) - I expected to see it higher. (x:256 y:36)
• 03:15:208 (1,2) - Uncomfortable transition. I recommend to make like that:
SPOILER
Open Insane with notepad, find in --[HitObjects]-- section (almost very bottom) string with start 240,164,195208... And change your code to this. (Don't forget save your part. But this part more comfortable :3).
240,164,195208,6,0,P|222:193|224:230,2,67.5000025749208,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
236,84,195763,2,0,P|217:54|183:39,2,67.5000025749208,8|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,116,196318,2,0,P|125:134|108:168,1,67.5000025749208,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
177,186,196688,2,0,P|165:223|177:259,1,67.5000025749208,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
239,219,197058,2,0,P|257:253|291:270,1,67.5000025749208,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,200,197428,1,2,0:0:0:0:
348,140,197613,1,0,0:0:0:0:
332,68,197798,1,0,0:0:0:0:
268,32,197983,1,0,0:0:0:0:
200,76,198168,6,0,P|186:41|196:-3,2,67.5000025749208,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
174,139,198724,2,0,P|139:123|114:84,2,67.5000025749208,0|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
248,148,199279,2,0,P|282:163|307:202,1,67.5000025749208,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
239,223,199649,2,0,P|252:257|241:303,1,67.5000025749208,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,263,200019,2,0,P|163:297|125:322,1,67.5000025749208,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
104,244,200389,1,2,0:0:0:0:
80,168,200574,1,0,0:0:0:0:
100,92,200759,1,0,0:0:0:0:
172,52,200944,1,0,0:0:0:0:

As I've said above, very good map! Good luck with ~
riffy
Yo, there's something weird in your video. Also, the OD on Easy and Normal should be reduced to make the timing changes and choppy rhythm a bit more playable.

Anyway, I'm here to shoot a couple of stars. Hope I'll be able to mod it when I finish with the maps from my queue! (if you don't mind, ofc).
Topic Starter
Alarido

DexFrild wrote:

awww amazing song. And map too :3 Оne of my favorite (and first) songs by SOAD.

Here some problems with snapping:

Easy

  • • 00:40:198 (1) - Unsnapped slider. ► It seems unsnapped when you're positioned before the new timing red line, but after you cross that line, you'll see the note snapped as it must be. That's the reason AiMod don't detected it.
    • 00:40:198 (1) - Unsnapped slider. ► ^
    • 00:40:198 (1) - Unsnapped slider. ► ^
    • 01:55:072 (3) - Unsnapped circle. ► Fixed.

Normal

  • • 01:51:497 (4) - Unsnapped slider. ► Fixed.

Insane

  • • 00:40:198 (1) - Unsnapped circle. ► Fixed.
    • 00:40:384 (2) - Unsnapped circle. ► Fixed.
    • 00:40:570 (3) - Unsnapped circle. ► Fixed.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

• 02:32:905 (4) - I expected to see it higher. (x:256 y:36) ► Moved to x:256 y:28 (also checked in gameplay for avoiding touch life bar, and found that it doesn't touches the life bar.).
• 03:15:208 (1,2) - Uncomfortable transition. I recommend to make like that:
SPOILER
Open Insane with notepad, find in --[HitObjects]-- section (almost very bottom) string with start 240,164,195208... And change your code to this. (Don't forget save your part. But this part more comfortable :3).
240,164,195208,6,0,P|222:193|224:230,2,67.5000025749208,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
236,84,195763,2,0,P|217:54|183:39,2,67.5000025749208,8|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,116,196318,2,0,P|125:134|108:168,1,67.5000025749208,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
177,186,196688,2,0,P|165:223|177:259,1,67.5000025749208,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
239,219,197058,2,0,P|257:253|291:270,1,67.5000025749208,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,200,197428,1,2,0:0:0:0:
348,140,197613,1,0,0:0:0:0:
332,68,197798,1,0,0:0:0:0:
268,32,197983,1,0,0:0:0:0:
200,76,198168,6,0,P|186:41|196:-3,2,67.5000025749208,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
174,139,198724,2,0,P|139:123|114:84,2,67.5000025749208,0|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
248,148,199279,2,0,P|282:163|307:202,1,67.5000025749208,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
239,223,199649,2,0,P|252:257|241:303,1,67.5000025749208,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,263,200019,2,0,P|163:297|125:322,1,67.5000025749208,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
104,244,200389,1,2,0:0:0:0:
80,168,200574,1,0,0:0:0:0:
100,92,200759,1,0,0:0:0:0:
172,52,200944,1,0,0:0:0:0:
►►► Thanks for the code c: feels better now (:

As I've said above, very good map! Good luck with ~
Thanks Dex (:
THANKS FOR THE STAR TOO (:
Topic Starter
Alarido

-Bakari- wrote:

Yo, there's something weird in your video. Also, the OD on Easy and Normal should be reduced to make the timing changes and choppy rhythm a bit more playable.

Anyway, I'm here to shoot a couple of stars. Hope I'll be able to mod it when I finish with the maps from my queue! (if you don't mind, ofc).
Hm.... the video might do this because the song file doesn't have the 'intro' that the video have (it would have it with some edit, but the .mp3 quality would suffer a bit (or a lot) when doing such edit). I'd set audio preview to the same amount of time of the video offset, but now set audio preview to 0 (zero) and, once tested, applied on every diff.

Thanks for the stars =^.^= and take your time (: Family, work and school, these three in first place c:

Att.

Edit: WHOA :o SO MANY STAAAAAARZ ^O^
riffy
Yo, not-so-random mod because you're awesome.

[General]
  1. Man, don't lie to us, that's clearly NOT a heavy metal song, sounds more like alternative metal. (Wiki) Also, you may want to add Toxicity to the tqgs, it's the name of the album.
    Note: don't forget to add SOAD to the tags, I think you know why
  2. Blue and purple colors are pretty similar, bring some vary, use more of them! See the box below for some example!
    colors

    [Colours]
    Combo1 : 184,201,182
    Combo2 : 189,176,164
    Combo3 : 181,190,193
    Combo4 : 75,74,85
    Combo5 : 49,83,111
    Combo6 : 203,179,173
  3. Please, reduce the sound of this spinner. It'd really fit with the music + it sounds kinda weird as it is. :(
    Note: oh, and maybe you should consider muting spinner-bonus.wav as well. I think it sounds a bit off and doesn't really fits with this song.
[Easy]
  1. Honestly, I feel like you have to reduce the OD here. You current OD is a bit too high because the song has some BPM changes and 3/2 beats which are rather hard for beginners. Reducing OD would make your map a bit friendlier towards beginners.
  2. 00:35:687 (3,1) - I don't want to bother you with nazi stuff, but the flow feels kinda wrong here. It is catchable, but the transition gives an unpleasant feeling. I've tried to fix it for you, see if you like it!
    Note: 01:34:494 (1,2) - pretty much the same happens here. Though the diff is quite slow and it doesn't feel that bad, but if you have any better ideas, please go ahead and change it!
  3. 01:38:984 (5) - and 02:28:626 (5) - please, consider adding a new combo here. You need it to emphasize the BPM vhanges and to follow music a bit better. It may look a bit confusing, but I'm sure that it's needed here to emphasize players about the BPM changes
  4. 02:44:371 (2,3) - i kinda didn't like your rhythm here, it feels a bit complicated. Why don't you make it a bit more simple and follow vocals here? :) my example
    Note: 02:53:146 (2,3) and 02:56:090 (2,3) - the rhythm feels kinda repetitive, do the sae here, I guess. Or keep it this way to bring some vary and make your map a bit more interesting :P
  5. 02:53:146 (2,3) - nazi - try to make a bblanket here example or use some simple flow here. Either way you choose it will improve the transition between (3) and (1), imo.
  6. 03:19:279 (2) - just amazing. Love everything about this slider, it's sound, it's shape and the flow it gives! Great idea! ♥

    You never disappoint me, great diff!
[Normal]
  1. Try to reduce OD, it may be a bit hard to deal with all these BPM changes, though they are minor, they're A LOT of them. Normal-players may be confused with such complicated timing.
  2. 01:38:984 (5) - pretty much the same as on Easy diff, I'd emphasize such BPM changes with new combos, it fits with the music + it makes the BPM/offset changes a bit more understandable
  3. 01:51:474 (4,1) - the transition feels kinda awkward here. It is catchable, but well, the flow isn't really good, imo. :( Maybe it's just me, that'd be great to get some more opinions on this part, tho
  4. 03:48:683 (2,1) - you have no taiko/o!m specific iffs, so players will play standard diffs in their modes. This pattern becomes unacceptable and too hard in o!m and really unreadable in taiko. Please, try to avoid such stuff when it's possible, place spnners to existing beats!

    Everything is pretty nice. Good job with the diff!
[Hard]
  1. 00:40:921 (3) - I'd use NCs to mphasize such slowdowns. Those, who play hard diffs are probably not used to sudden slowdowns, so it may confuse them a bit. :(
  2. 01:15:651 (6,7) - this would flow much better if you change it's direction, I think.
  3. 01:46:465 (1) - not a fan of such sliders, they may fit, but it's kinda unpleasant when the second reverse-arrow apears. If I were you, I'd replace such sliders with something like this
    Note: same applies for all similar sliders, ofc. Oh, and probably you should get more opinions about such things. It may be just me ><
  4. 02:45:814 (1,2) - just a little overlap which looks a bit out of style, so I'd recommend you to fix it. It'll also improve your flow! :)

    Well mapped, that's exactly what I love!
[Insane]
  1. I would reduce the OD here as well. So many BPM changes and OD8 may be TOO hard and probably won't be a pleasant experience. Anyway, get more opinions about this one.

    Perfecto! Personally, I'd add some more jumps to loud drum beats, but it's not a big deal. I loved the diff.
Great mapset! Have some star(s)!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Best of luck!
Topic Starter
Alarido

-Bakari- wrote:

Yo, not-so-random mod because you're awesome.

[General]
  1. Man, don't lie to us, that's clearly NOT a heavy metal song, sounds more like alternative metal. (Wiki) Also, you may want to add Toxicity to the tqgs, it's the name of the album. ► Done.
    Note: don't forget to add SOAD to the tags, I think you know why ► Good :idea:
  2. Blue and purple colors are pretty similar, bring some vary, use more of them! See the box below for some example!
    colors

    [Colours]
    Combo1 : 184,201,182
    Combo2 : 189,176,164
    Combo3 : 181,190,193
    Combo4 : 75,74,85
    Combo5 : 49,83,111
    Combo6 : 203,179,173
    ►►► Good colors c: Copied
  3. Please, reduce the sound of this spinner. It'd really fit with the music + it sounds kinda weird as it is. :(
    Note: oh, and maybe you should consider muting spinner-bonus.wav as well. I think it sounds a bit off and doesn't really fits with this song. ► Doing it.
[Easy]
  1. Honestly, I feel like you have to reduce the OD here. You current OD is a bit too high because the song has some BPM changes and 3/2 beats which are rather hard for beginners. Reducing OD would make your map a bit friendlier towards beginners. ► So I'd applied now the OD scheme of 1-3-5-7 for E-N-H-I respectively.
  2. 00:35:687 (3,1) - I don't want to bother you with nazi stuff, but the flow feels kinda wrong here. It is catchable, but the transition gives an unpleasant feeling. I've tried to fix it for you, see if you like it! ► Tried something like because of further patterns. Modified some of them tho...
    Note: 01:34:494 (1,2) - pretty much the same happens here. Though the diff is quite slow and it doesn't feel that bad, but if you have any better ideas, please go ahead and change it!
  3. 01:38:984 (5) - and 02:28:626 (5) - please, consider adding a new combo here. You need it to emphasize the BPM vhanges and to follow music a bit better. It may look a bit confusing, but I'm sure that it's needed here to emphasize players about the BPM changes ► Good :idea: :D
  4. 02:44:371 (2,3) - i kinda didn't like your rhythm here, it feels a bit complicated. Why don't you make it a bit more simple and follow vocals here? :) my example ► Redesigned them.
    Note: 02:53:146 (2,3) and 02:56:090 (2,3) - the rhythm feels kinda repetitive, do the sae here, I guess. Or keep it this way to bring some vary and make your map a bit more interesting :P
  5. 02:53:146 (2,3) - nazi - try to make a bblanket here example or use some simple flow here. Either way you choose it will improve the transition between (3) and (1), imo. ► Redesigned both (2,3) pairs of the symmetry.
  6. 03:19:279 (2) - just amazing. Love everything about this slider, it's sound, it's shape and the flow it gives! Great idea! ♥ ► <3

    You never disappoint me, great diff!
[Normal]
  1. Try to reduce OD, it may be a bit hard to deal with all these BPM changes, though they are minor, they're A LOT of them. Normal-players may be confused with such complicated timing. ► So I'd applied now the OD scheme of 1-3-5-7 for E-N-H-I respectively.
  2. 01:38:984 (5) - pretty much the same as on Easy diff, I'd emphasize such BPM changes with new combos, it fits with the music + it makes the BPM/offset changes a bit more understandable ► Done.
  3. 01:51:474 (4,1) - the transition feels kinda awkward here. It is catchable, but well, the flow isn't really good, imo. :( Maybe it's just me, that'd be great to get some more opinions on this part, tho ► Hm... kept it as it's jonathanlfj's influence (from some certain map I don't remember now ><)
  4. 03:48:683 (2,1) - you have no taiko/o!m specific iffs, so players will play standard diffs in their modes. This pattern becomes unacceptable and too hard in o!m and really unreadable in taiko. Please, try to avoid such stuff when it's possible, place spnners to existing beats! ► At least at easier diffs, sure (:

    Everything is pretty nice. Good job with the diff!
[Hard]
  1. 00:40:921 (3) - I'd use NCs to mphasize such slowdowns. Those, who play hard diffs are probably not used to sudden slowdowns, so it may confuse them a bit. :( ► Well... too many slowings with too many NCs... if some BAT suggest it, I'll do, but it feels not too suitable to have such ?NC span? -- because I usually place NC for each 1 or 2 stanzas, except if the song itself feels requesting for more (e.g., real BPM changes -- marked by red lines)
  2. 01:15:651 (6,7) - this would flow much better if you change it's direction, I think. ► Redesigned this part a bit.
  3. 01:46:465 (1) - not a fan of such sliders, they may fit, but it's kinda unpleasant when the second reverse-arrow apears. If I were you, I'd replace such sliders with something like this ► This was made mostly for add variety (or too many 1/2 ones in same style) and, also, for lack of space. I would try stacked 1/2 sliders (like these ones here), but unfortunately, they're unrankable. But when the rules change about slider stacking, I'll feel more free to change it (:
    Note: same applies for all similar sliders, ofc. Oh, and probably you should get more opinions about such things. It may be just me ><
  4. 02:45:814 (1,2) - just a little overlap which looks a bit out of style, so I'd recommend you to fix it. It'll also improve your flow! :)

    Well mapped, that's exactly what I love!
[Insane]
  1. I would reduce the OD here as well. So many BPM changes and OD8 may be TOO hard and probably won't be a pleasant experience. Anyway, get more opinions about this one. ► So I'd applied now the OD scheme of 1-3-5-7 for E-N-H-I respectively.

    Perfecto! Personally, I'd add some more jumps to loud drum beats, but it's not a big deal. I loved the diff.
Great mapset! Have some star(s)!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Best of luck!

Thhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanks Bakari (:

Aaaaand....
Topic Starter
Alarido
Kibbleru
M4M from ur queue

[Insane]
00:32:732 (5) - NC?
00:45:409 - needs something here
00:51:493 (7) - this seems better
00:57:529 - why put such a strong sound in the middle of a slider?
01:09:582 - ^
00:56:775 (6) - NC?
02:03:033 (6) - ^
02:38:614 (6) - ^
01:03:947 (10) - maybe split this combo a bit
01:34:494 (1,2) - (nazi) fix blanket a bit
01:35:623 (3,4) - ^
02:37:722 (3) - the jump can catch people off guard, most would think this would be ctrl + g'd
02:57:563 (1,2) - meh this overlap
02:59:219 (4) - finish at head like the previous ones?
03:16:688 (4) - consider ctrl g
03:19:649 (4) - ^
03:43:184 (4) - ^
03:34:534 (4,5) - they touch, space out a bit
03:35:826 (1,2) - ^
03:38:040 (7,8) - ^

[Hard]
00:36:062 - add circle or something
00:57:529 - ^
00:48:255 (5,7) - confusing/hard to read imo
02:10:986 (2) - ctrl g?
02:12:489 (5) - ^
02:15:682 (4) - i think it would be better if you shortened this to a 1/2 slider and added a circle at where it used to start
02:57:563 (1,2) - blanket?
03:41:351 (5,2) - stack?

[Normal]
01:03:947 (4) - clap sounds kinda weird
01:04:312 (1) - reverse 1 more time? DS it properly afterwards ofc
01:05:817 (3) - ^
02:35:404 (2) - finish at end?
02:46:908 (2) - ^

[Easy]
01:43:460 (1,3) - careful not to overlap
03:10:431 (2,1) - blanket?

Hope this helps
Topic Starter
Alarido

Kibbleru wrote:

M4M from ur queue

[Insane]
00:32:732 (5) - NC? ► Good idea!
00:45:409 - needs something here ► Added this and redesigned some parts.
00:51:493 (7) - this seems better
►►► Changed. (there was an anti-blanket here...)
00:57:529 - why put such a strong sound in the middle of a slider? ► Due a couple of things: (a) it's not so strong compared to their neighbors, and (b) it wasn't part of the original project (note that 00:57:341 (9,10,11,1) draws a stylized "S" on screen.
01:09:582 - ^ ► Hm... Here, changed to a note + 1/2 slider (improve symmetry on Y-axis and enhance the beat with a clap)
00:56:775 (6) - NC? ► Done.
02:03:033 (6) - ^ ► Done.
02:38:614 (6) - ^ ► Done (here and in a few non-mentioned parts for consistency)
01:03:947 (10) - maybe split this combo a bit ► It's near of the 2nd measure (really doing NCs every two measures, except for some different parts as you pointed above), and it don't feel suitable to have NC right before another NC -- at least not in this song (really, some songs request them, specially in calmer moments/sparse mapped sections).
01:34:494 (1,2) - (nazi) fix blanket a bit ► Done.
01:35:623 (3,4) - ^ ► Done.
02:37:722 (3) - the jump can catch people off guard, most would think this would be ctrl + g'd ► Hm... it's true... especially for who plays with HD/FL first time (due to absence of approach circle). And.... Well, let's gather some further opinions, leaving this unchanged. (perhaps this part would be changed at all, depending on where the latter and further notes are).
02:57:563 (1,2) - meh this overlap ► This is intentional and well-done as most perfectly I would make, but... you'd pointed it and gave me a chance for... testing a Ctrl-G 02:58:115 (2,3) and... Good idea! It's amazing! The Ctrl-G on 02:58:115 (2,3) makes such "meh" overlap disappear magically and (hallelujah?) it also gives an amazing flow (Y). \:D/
02:59:219 (4) - finish at head like the previous ones? ► Done (and also added finish at 02:47:455 (4) for consistency on the last chorus)
03:16:688 (4) - consider ctrl g ► Good :D
03:19:649 (4) - ^ ► ^
03:43:184 (4) - ^ ► ok
03:34:534 (4,5) - they touch, space out a bit ► ok.
03:35:826 (1,2) - ^ ► ok
03:38:040 (7,8) - ^ ► ok

[Hard]
00:36:062 - add circle or something ► ok
00:57:529 - ^ ► ok
00:48:255 (5,7) - confusing/hard to read imo ► Shortened (5) to 1/2, removed the notes (6,7) and added a 1/2-repeating slider -- easier to read and hit ~.~ (In truth, the original pattern wasn't too rare in osu...)
02:10:986 (2) - ctrl g? ► YES!!!
02:12:489 (5) - ^ ► YES!!!
02:15:682 (4) - i think it would be better if you shortened this to a 1/2 slider and added a circle at where it used to start ► sure; done.
02:57:563 (1,2) - blanket? ► yes
03:41:351 (5,2) - stack? ► no. Instead, adjusted some notes to prevent touching.

[Normal]
01:03:947 (4) - clap sounds kinda weird ► Fixed.
01:04:312 (1) - reverse 1 more time? DS it properly afterwards ofc ► yes
01:05:817 (3) - ^ ► yes
02:35:404 (2) - finish at end? ► yes
02:46:908 (2) - ^ ► yes

[Easy]
01:43:460 (1,3) - careful not to overlap ► ok. Moved some notes a bit.
03:10:431 (2,1) - blanket? ► no blanket intended here.

Hope this helps
Helped a lot (and helped bring some new ideas). Thanks Kibbleru ~.~

Att.

EDIT:
Topic Starter
Alarido
Testplayed in TAIKO mode.

RESULTS OF TESTPLAY IN TAIKO MODE
Probably it's a bit harder than Futsuu. Possibly... Futsuu+ or Futsuu++

How you think about mapping a specific Taiko mapset on this song ????

:3
Valseem_old
Why is this not ranked yet... call BATS
Topic Starter
Alarido

Valseem wrote:

Why is this not ranked yet... call BATS

Good idea :D

*going to #modreqs to call BATs here*

_________________________________________________________________________________________

EDIT:


Watch the Testplay here → http://puu.sh/82JBk.osr ← (and even within streamless maps, I still playing bad ><)
Lucy Suzunia
This Map is awesome, Pls rank! x3
Topic Starter
Alarido
ŐSZINTÉN Szólva...¹ eu não sei o quanto é preciso pra ranquear... Não sei se é preciso quinhentas pratas... Não sei se é preciso ser parente do George Soros [isto é, concordar com tudo o que ele faz em sigilo]... Realmente, eu não sei.
2. Mas pressinto que, perto de mim, está a chegar um sentimento um tanto conhecido, um tanto parecido com o que a Bounce Babe nos havia relatado há algum tempo.
3. Porque o que acontece quando lançamos quilos e mais quilos de sementes num terreno e, contudo, nenhum fruto vemos? Ou, se nalgum negócio labutamos e lucro não conseguimos?
4. Certamente que a semeadura, infrutífera, cessará; certamente a empresa insolvente falirá.
5. Pois com o quê compraremos novas sementes? E com que dinheiro tocaremos a empresa adiante?
6. Desde algum tempo, e este não muito nem pouco, tenho visto aqui ser um terreno infértil, pomar infrutífero.
7. Sobretudo, porque pressinto que a tequila, chamada Poder, tenha feito uma devassa nas cabeças dos cabeças de chave, tornando-os introspectiva e virtualmente improdutivos para a comunidade, no meio da qual agonizo.
8. Porém, luto com uma certeza divina: a de que, mais dia, menos dia, o bem vencerá.
9. Todavia, isto não elimina a minha angústia em ver que trabalho, trabalho e trabalho aqui e, ainda assim, frutos não vejo isto produzir.
10. Assim desejo fortemente que haja uma dança brutal das cadeiras, removendo-se todo o sangue velho e coagulado deste corpo; promovendo saúde de caráter e espírito de integridade neste egrégio corpo gerencial de nossa organização.
11. E tudo para que, no futuro, façamos mais! E para que, no futuro, sejamos mais! Nós mesmos, e não outros, estranhos e desconhecidos em termos de caráter.
12. Esta declaração a faço notória a todos que a ler consigam.

(If you need some translation, ask me. Google Translate and machine translations aren't reliable. Not currently, nor for the language level I used here).

___________________________________________________
¹ Francamente...
Mezzaten
Achei ar9 sinceramente desnecessário, ar9 num mapa com essa BPM torna ele chato e maçante de se jogar, use ar8. Só uma sugestão, tho. Também sugiro encontrar outro vídeo, porque o "PRESSIONE ESC PARA SAIR DE TELA CHEIA" entrega que tu gravou do youtube e isso é, well, meio feio.



add banana in tags

Sieg
DO
NOT
DROP


timing is fine for me, 1st try
Topic Starter
Alarido

Mezzaten wrote:

Achei ar9 sinceramente desnecessário, ar9 num mapa com essa BPM torna ele chato e maçante de se jogar, use ar8. Só uma sugestão, tho. Também sugiro encontrar outro vídeo, porque o "PRESSIONE ESC PARA SAIR DE TELA CHEIA" entrega que tu gravou do youtube e isso é, well, meio feio.

► Quanto ao AR, ajustei pra 8. Eu já estranhava mesmo, mas queria ter uma segunda opinião. Aliás, não sei o porquê de tanta gente obcecada por AR10... é AR10 pra lá e pra cá....

► Quanto ao vídeo, troquei por um outro que consegui baixar do Dailymotion. Sim, a qualidade não é lá essas coisas, mas, pelo menos, não tem aquela "publicidade indireta do Youtube" rs... Uma nota sobre aquele vídeo: eu tinha gravado ele usando o Fraps (capturando a tela), pois na época eu não conseguia baixar de outra forma. Nem mesmo aqueles "online converters" funfavam ><

add banana in tags ► só se for de dinamite kkkk

Meus mapas não constumam ser tão difíceis, digo, impossíveis.
A diff mais difícil que já fiz foi [Deep Love] em Ichinen, mas é porque tem muitos triples e algumas streams ─ coisa difícil pra mim (como [todo "bom"] singletapper ;p eu [ainda] não sei streamar.... mas já vou tentando no insane de Don't Let It Break Your Heart de Coldplay que o Deed fez, muito bom por sinal).

Obrigado Mezz :)

Edit: Kd'ed your post because you helped me fix the most serious issues.

Sieg wrote:

DO
NOT
DROP


timing is fine for me, 1st try
Thanks Sieg (: Let's go forth !
Polaco

Sieg wrote:

DO
NOT
DROP
Topic Starter
Alarido
I've called a BAT to take an uncompromised look at this map. His modding list feels the longer so far, so it can take several days, or weeks, or months, or years, so don't worry if this mapset remains so long on Pending realm. Someday, the prize of "The Oldest Map Before Ranking" will be mine. And yes, I'll keep mapping other songs too ─ including a song that will be the most polemical ever on osu! XD

Also I've say the BIG THANKS to each one of the 21+ people that favorited the map (it's 22+ minus me).

About the diff naming, I've had decided to follow the standard naming, but in these latter days I wanna change the Insane to "Aerials", the song name. Perhaps I'll do in the next update. Or not. (lol).

I'll keep the three completed mapsets on Pending, no matter how much I map furthermore. They're all going to be Ranked.

Att.

EDIT: PS: BATS, please take a look here! I won't turn this thread in my blog!
Helios_Zul
Hi Alarido :)

I Found A Video That Has A High Quality And No Ads On It =)
Here It Is...

High Quality

Hope This Will Helpful :D :D :D
Good Luck Alarido!!!
Topic Starter
Alarido
Changed video to the better one ~.~ Thanks Helios_Zul ^.^ TERIMA KASIH ~.~
Eni
RANKRANKRANK
Topic Starter
Alarido
Nowadays' BATS are afraid of ranking this. Unfortunately ;(

If I could travel back to that glorious osu!past when RandomJibberish, Doomsday and Larto were BATS ><
Eni
osu! Needs more non-Japanese songs!
Kibbleru
oh man i remember modding this a long time ago @_@

man that shetty blanket / nc mod makes me cry lol...
Topic Starter
Alarido
Added Taiko diffs (Muzu/Oni) as of July 1st, 2014.

Therefore, this mapset needs LOTS of Taiko modders (:

Some Std mods also needed.

Att.
Eni
!!
Topic Starter
Alarido
Now I need Taiko modders so I could keep learning Taiko mapping.
And after a lot of improvements on my taikos, will need a taiko icon too. (likewise in my first ranked mapset, Ichinen, which it has taiko diffs from Dekaane).
Eni
I would map Kantan/Futsuu but there is only hard/insane in most taiko/standard mapsets.
Topic Starter
Alarido

Project Railgun wrote:

I would map Kantan/Futsuu but there is only hard/insane in most taiko/standard mapsets.

Good idea :D ~.~ why not?

Feel free to do (:
Topic Starter
Alarido
If some osu! Standard BAT say the osu! Standard diffs are fully OK, I can remove the Taiko diffs right before he/she bubbles it. Yeah, my taiko diffs worth nothing.

EDIT: Removed all Taiko diffs.
Topic Starter
Alarido
I'd removed the Taiko diffs. I hope don't turn this thread into my blog, but help is needed to rank this.
Eni
Lets go, Alarido! System Of A Down! Aerials! Rank!
Maldita Sea
On a side note: Why do most brazilians I know like SOAD?

It is awesome that they have good taste.
Topic Starter
Alarido
Sieg
hello there, going to do smth here soon
http://puu.sh/eJPlV/225aa8daef.mp3
offset 31475 bpm 80
apply this and we will be able to move map forward
there can be few timing jitters but just +-5ms so not a big deal, let me know if you find something wrong
oh and... you video is most likely will go unsync
Topic Starter
Alarido

Sieg wrote:

hello there, going to do smth here soon
http://puu.sh/eJPlV/225aa8daef.mp3
offset 31475 bpm 80
apply this and we will be able to move map forward
there can be few timing jitters but just +-5ms so not a big deal, let me know if you find something wrong
oh and... you video is most likely will go unsync

Is it truth that every timing section is really 80, not the current ones (or their values divided by 2) ?

The whole thing became confused, so I'm afraid because it can take more two years to adjust it all...


...unless a macro or something could be do these... I would work something in newLisp or Lazarus (Free Pascal) or Jscript... but nothing seems to appear here...

Trying, even trying...
Sieg
well.. leave this up to me then, I'll handle for you
Topic Starter
Alarido

Sieg wrote:

well.. leave this up to me then, I'll handle for you

Sure ? ♥ ♥ ♥

If you want to do this in the Insane, I can replicate it for all other diffs (:
Sieg

Alarido wrote:

If you want to do this in the Insane, I can replicate it for all other diffs (:
http://puu.sh/eKTvh/272bc69735.osu
contact me if you unsure that you'll be able to do the same on your other diffs or have any additional questions
Topic Starter
Alarido
NOW READY ^^

Updated!

Thanks Sieg!
Timing changes are vital changes, sine qua non condition for every mapping. So kd'ed (only) the first post ~.~
Sieg
I'm going to recheck this on next week, would be great if you improve your hitsounds before, atm they sounds way too monotonically
Topic Starter
Alarido
Hisounds deleted and redone. Hope they look better this time, although I am (and still being) very weak on this aspect ><



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LN: Hm... remembering Larto, I reminded someone mentioned him @ p/3653003 (two posts before my moddings). Tested and really it reminds me (or feels to me a bit alike) some Larto things from Rihanna - Disturbia (I tighly-and-deeply LOVE that craziest map!!!)
Sieg

Alarido wrote:

Hisounds deleted and redone. Hope they look better this time, although I am (and still being) very weak on this aspect ><
If you feel that you very weak in hitsounds ask somebody to help you out. You should. Really.
Topic Starter
Alarido
Title: Dexfrild's support in progress.
Description: Hitsound files changed and replaced (and raised volume of some of them on behalf of Kazuya suggest). Then, implanted in the Insane diff. Hitsounding will be implanted later (possibly tomorrow).
Recommendation for modders: wait until full update (probably until next sunday-tuesday).
DexFrild
Hi :)
Firstly, duplicate soft\normalsliderslide.waw and rename to Drumsliderslide. DO NOT forget, you have two custom drum samplesets.
Then duplicate soft-hitwhistle and rename to soft-slidertick

Set slidertick rate to 1 in Normal.
And I noticed a strange thing.. In Hard diff your break starts at 01:20:225 - I think you should use it for all diffs :3
And one more thing. It's up to you, I suggest you to mute final spinners.
!Download hitsounded diffs!


Write me if you have troubles.
Good Luck ;)
Topic Starter
Alarido
Thanks Dexfrild !!!

Mapset updated, hitsoundings fixed.
Sieg
[General]
  1. I don't recommend you to silence both spinnerspin and spinnerbonus
  2. Raise hs volume a bit 5-10% should be fine
  3. Video quality is so bad, you should get new one with better quality, I can do this if you need
[Easy]
  1. 01:40:475 (1,2) - fix DS here
[Normal]
  1. 02:35:600 (2) - is this snapped properly, because it seems like you missed strong beat 02:36:350 ()
[Freedom]
[Hard]
Topic Starter
Alarido

Sieg wrote:

[General]
  1. ► Removed both.
  2. I don't recommend you to silence both spinnerspin and spinnerbonus ► Excluded then silent 'spinnerspin.wav'.
  3. Raise hs volume a bit 5-10% should be fine ► Done.
  4. Video quality is so bad, you should get new one with better quality, I can do this if you need ► Because tried to reduce its size (it was 17 MB, reduced to 11 MB to get the total Beatmap size < 24 MB.
[Easy]
  1. 01:40:475 (1,2) - fix DS here ► Done.
[Normal]
  1. 02:35:600 (2) - is this snapped properly, because it seems like you missed strong beat 02:36:350 () ► Yes, it is. Then added a note for the missing beat.
[Freedom]
  1. ► Done.
[Hard]
  1. ► Done.
► If you can get a video of better quality, feel free to do.
► Everything else fixed.


Updated.

Att.
Sieg
huh, alight, keep your video if you want, it seems like there is only not-so-good versions around
Sonnyc
For all of your diffs:

03:53:975 - Having a hit sound here is not a good idea for me because the music is almost silenced down.

Normal:

02:37:475 (6) - Consider adding a new combo since things went a little too long.
03:01:100 (3) - Spacing could've been improved.
03:17:975 (2,3) - This symmetry spacing can definitely be improved.
03:27:725 (3,1) - Check spacing.
03:30:725 (3) - ^

Hard:

01:09:725 - Adding a note fits better. If your intention of 01:09:912 (6,7) were to follow the drums, then you should change 01:08:975 (4,5) to a rhythm to this to make the emphasis more effective.
01:20:225 - This is the only difficulty where the break starts here. Please make this setting consistent through all difficulties.

Good job you've done here in that patterns were interacting each other not only with symmetries, but also by 180 angle rotations.
Topic Starter
Alarido

Sonnyc wrote:

For all of your diffs:

03:53:975 - Having a hit sound here is not a good idea for me because the music is almost silenced down. ► There's really no added hitsound here. It sounds louder than it should be here due to custom 'soft-hitnormal.wav'.
(*) Solved by adding a green line with the regular (default) Soft sampleset and then lowered to 10%.

Normal:

02:37:475 (6) - Consider adding a new combo since things went a little too long. ► Done.
03:01:100 (3) - Spacing could've been improved. ► Done.
03:17:975 (2,3) - This symmetry spacing can definitely be improved. ► Fixed.
03:27:725 (3,1) - Check spacing. ► Fixed.
03:30:725 (3) - ^ ► Fixed too.

Hard:

01:09:725 - Adding a note fits better. If your intention of 01:09:912 (6,7) were to follow the drums, then you should change 01:08:975 (4,5) to a rhythm to this to make the emphasis more effective. ► Done. Feels good. Rearranged some notes too.
01:20:225 - This is the only difficulty where the break starts here. Please make this setting consistent through all difficulties. ► Done (readjusted in all diffs).

Good job you've done here in that patterns were interacting each other not only with symmetries, but also by 180 angle rotations.
Thanks Sonnyc :3

Updated.
Sonnyc
Heart.
Topic Starter
Alarido
:D Thanks ~.~

Thanks everyone :3
pkk
Congratulations Alarido! It's finally ranked :)
Meowcenaries
congratulations!
Eni
Aerials <3 :)
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