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total furry death
You know how Hitler's doctor was actually a Jew but Hitler spared him?Polyspora wrote:
not eblfYmir wrote:
total furry death
thats uh, interesting I guessYmir wrote:
You know how Hitler's doctor was actually a Jew but Hitler spared him?Polyspora wrote:
not eblfYmir wrote:
total furry death
No.Ymir wrote:
total furry death
Boykisser meme tho yes.
Enough of that bullshit, you guys absolutely ruined the chance this topic could be moved to General Discussion.
I should start looking into other distros as well, though, not just stick to Pop!_OS...
I should start looking into other distros as well, though, not just stick to Pop!_OS...
Off-Topic > General DiscussionRizumu Tenshi wrote:
Enough of that bullshit, you guys absolutely ruined the chance this topic could be moved to General Discussion.
I should start looking into other distros as well, though, not just stick to Pop!_OS...
I used Linux back in college.
And the OS feels like it's eerily clean that I feel like it's illegal to use it for games or something that's not of professional use.
And the OS feels like it's eerily clean that I feel like it's illegal to use it for games or something that's not of professional use.
ah yes, the ultimate honor that a thread on OT can aspire to, killed by being moved to another subforumRizumu Tenshi wrote:
Enough of that bullshit, you guys absolutely ruined the chance this topic could be moved to General Discussion.
I should start looking into other distros as well, though, not just stick to Pop!_OS...
Typical Tourist Behavior.Patatitta wrote:
ah yes, the ultimate honor that a thread on OT can aspire to, killed by being moved to another subforumRizumu Tenshi wrote:
Enough of that bullshit, you guys absolutely ruined the chance this topic could be moved to General Discussion.
I should start looking into other distros as well, though, not just stick to Pop!_OS...
There's a reason why this is an Off Topic sub. Derailment and random replies are inevitable. 😊
And GD is dead, so it's better the thread to be here UwU
Even though this is a good enough thread to be put on General Discussion, OP put it in OT first. You don't typically see threads getting moved out of OT unless it's a language issue.Rizumu Tenshi wrote:
Enough of that bullshit, you guys absolutely ruined the chance this topic could be moved to General Discussion.
I should start looking into other distros as well, though, not just stick to Pop!_OS...
I had installed Mint today. Not because of this thread however, I have ubuntu installed on a different PC. For now it feels somewhat better.
i have gamepass untill June 😳👉👈Winnyace wrote:
Why do you need to use a VM?- Marco - wrote:
I would use GNU/Linux but my 1060 doesn't want to work using passthough
I don't understand anything about Linux and I'm not going to read all of this. So I quickly researched Linux on the internet and found this:
I think I'll take that as tl;dr lol. /j
I think I'll take that as tl;dr lol. /j
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The thread wasn't meant to be in GD, so I don't know why you're feeling so mad.Rizumu Tenshi wrote:
Enough of that bullshit, you guys absolutely ruined the chance this topic could be moved to General Discussion.
I should start looking into other distros as well, though, not just stick to Pop!_OS...
If Pop!_OS doesn't work for you, sure thing, look for more distros. If it does, don't distrohop just for the sake of doing that.
Oh. I see. I think there's a way to get that working under Linux natively, but I don't know.- Marco - wrote:
i have gamepass untill June 😳👉👈Winnyace wrote:
Why do you need to use a VM?- Marco - wrote:
I would use GNU/Linux but my 1060 doesn't want to work using passthough
Oh don't worry, I mean to see if there's any better choice before committing to avoid distro hopping.Winnyace wrote:
The thread wasn't meant to be in GD, so I don't know why you're feeling so mad.Rizumu Tenshi wrote:
Enough of that bullshit, you guys absolutely ruined the chance this topic could be moved to General Discussion.
I should start looking into other distros as well, though, not just stick to Pop!_OS...
If Pop!_OS doesn't work for you, sure thing, look for more distros. If it does, don't distrohop just for the sake of doing that.
Great guide for convincing players to try Linux. Although I advise to use a more up-to-date distro like Fedora or Ubuntu since Linux Mint updates only periodically which would cause issues on people that run on more newer hardware (which is common nowadays).
I've seen countless people trying Linux for the first time through Linux Mint and almost all of them encounter issues. The main cause of their issues is mostly due to an outdated kernel out of the box and they had to research for hours when simply using a later kernel version from the Kernel Manager fixes all of their issues. A lot of first-time Linux users fail to encounter this solution and just quits overall before they can come across it.
As of now, Linux Mint uses a more up-to-date kernel that supports most hardware out right now, which makes it fine to use right now, but it'll get outdated sooner than you think and in the future, the same thing will happen again due to newer hardware coming out every year while Linux Mint updates every 2 years.
I recommend Fedora or Fedora-based distros. They're very beginner-friendly and the only hard part of using Fedora is from the installer. Once you've passed that, you'll run into little to no issues using your PC. You can stay up-to-date while being very stable with Fedora.
I've seen countless people trying Linux for the first time through Linux Mint and almost all of them encounter issues. The main cause of their issues is mostly due to an outdated kernel out of the box and they had to research for hours when simply using a later kernel version from the Kernel Manager fixes all of their issues. A lot of first-time Linux users fail to encounter this solution and just quits overall before they can come across it.
As of now, Linux Mint uses a more up-to-date kernel that supports most hardware out right now, which makes it fine to use right now, but it'll get outdated sooner than you think and in the future, the same thing will happen again due to newer hardware coming out every year while Linux Mint updates every 2 years.
I recommend Fedora or Fedora-based distros. They're very beginner-friendly and the only hard part of using Fedora is from the installer. Once you've passed that, you'll run into little to no issues using your PC. You can stay up-to-date while being very stable with Fedora.
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Linux mint "edge" edition exists. It shipped with latest kernel iircUnknown Duck wrote:
Great guide for convincing players to try Linux. Although I advise to use a more up-to-date distro like Fedora or Ubuntu since Linux Mint updates only periodically which would cause issues on people that run on more newer hardware (which is common nowadays).
I've seen countless people trying Linux for the first time through Linux Mint and almost all of them encounter issues. The main cause of their issues is mostly due to an outdated kernel out of the box and they had to research for hours when simply using a later kernel version from the Kernel Manager fixes all of their issues. A lot of first-time Linux users fail to encounter this solution and just quits overall before they can come across it.
As of now, Linux Mint uses a more up-to-date kernel that supports most hardware out right now, which makes it fine to use right now, but it'll get outdated sooner than you think and in the future, the same thing will happen again due to newer hardware coming out every year while Linux Mint updates every 2 years.
I recommend Fedora or Fedora-based distros. They're very beginner-friendly and the only hard part of using Fedora is from the installer. Once you've passed that, you'll run into little to no issues using your PC. You can stay up-to-date while being very stable with Fedora.
Also Fedora sucks for me. Of all editions I tried, only the Gnome ISO managed to boot past the bootloading screen Other ones have checksum errors
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Either work in my eyes. I have used Linux Mint as my primary distro back when I was starting out and it worked more than okay. I have used Fedora Plasma Spin too for a little bit recently and it worked as expected.Unknown Duck wrote:
Great guide for convincing players to try Linux. Although I advise to use a more up-to-date distro like Fedora or Ubuntu since Linux Mint updates only periodically which would cause issues on people that run on more newer hardware (which is common nowadays).
I've seen countless people trying Linux for the first time through Linux Mint and almost all of them encounter issues. The main cause of their issues is mostly due to an outdated kernel out of the box and they had to research for hours when simply using a later kernel version from the Kernel Manager fixes all of their issues. A lot of first-time Linux users fail to encounter this solution and just quits overall before they can come across it.
As of now, Linux Mint uses a more up-to-date kernel that supports most hardware out right now, which makes it fine to use right now, but it'll get outdated sooner than you think and in the future, the same thing will happen again due to newer hardware coming out every year while Linux Mint updates every 2 years.
I recommend Fedora or Fedora-based distros. They're very beginner-friendly and the only hard part of using Fedora is from the installer. Once you've passed that, you'll run into little to no issues using your PC. You can stay up-to-date while being very stable with Fedora.
So, I already use linux as my main computer, but I recently started mapping in the Lazer version on linux.
It's pretty fun, But I can't figure out how to actually upload any maps when using linux.
It's pretty fun, But I can't figure out how to actually upload any maps when using linux.
Hi,
You need to run the stable version to upload (I use wine to run it), since uploading beatmaps isn't implemented in lazer yet. I just do all my mapping in lazer, then export a file and move it to my stable folder.
You need to run the stable version to upload (I use wine to run it), since uploading beatmaps isn't implemented in lazer yet. I just do all my mapping in lazer, then export a file and move it to my stable folder.
why is this in off-topic
I will definitely switch full time once Windows 10 goes EOL
osu! (not lazer) works good on FreeBSD 14.1 through 32-bit Wine! I did winetricks mono_remove, dotnet20, dotnet40, and dotnet45, but I'm pretty sure only dotnet45 is needed.
Can't use Lazer because no native FreeBSD compatibility, it's win64-only (FreeBSD Wine is either 32 or 64, no both, I chose 32) and it won't compile (something dotnet-related iirc doesn't support FreeBSD).
Can't use Lazer because no native FreeBSD compatibility, it's win64-only (FreeBSD Wine is either 32 or 64, no both, I chose 32) and it won't compile (something dotnet-related iirc doesn't support FreeBSD).
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Great to hear that osu! stable runs under BSD. I don't think peppy will waste time making Lazer compatible on BSD, mostly because BSD isn't ran all that much as a desktop OS, like Linux. The fact Lazer even supports Linux is great though.Espionage724 wrote:
osu! (not lazer) works good on FreeBSD 14.1 through 32-bit Wine! I did winetricks mono_remove, dotnet20, dotnet40, and dotnet45, but I'm pretty sure only dotnet45 is needed.
Can't use Lazer because no native FreeBSD compatibility, it's win64-only (FreeBSD Wine is either 32 or 64, no both, I chose 32) and it won't compile (something dotnet-related iirc doesn't support FreeBSD).
Looks like you.burgernfat wrote:
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KatouMegumi wrote:
Looks like you.burgernfat wrote:
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But you know, that's fine. Just don't act superior and smug, like some of the idiots of this sub-forum.
russian secret service agent doxxed my ass ...KatouMegumi wrote:
Looks like you.burgernfat wrote:
Mint. I love mint. Might as well try Linux Mint someday... When I have time to do that stuff. Ugh.
A VM is gonna save me.
A VM is gonna save me.
Yeah. Try it out in a VM, see if you like it and then decide if you're gonna switch.
I have installed Linux Mint 22 Cinnamon on my 2016 AIO HP PC successfully! The reason why I am stating the year of my pc is because of the fact that it has shitty specs... 4 GB DDR3 RAM (ugh), Intel Celeron J3060 (trash), Intel Integrated Graphics with 128 MB VRAM (also trash).
I haven't tried out mint to its full potential yet. Let alone I haven't opened any of of the LibreOffice apps too. The Software Manager/installer seems to be pretty handy. The terminal feels much much more useful than CMD.
Thanks a lot winnyace for helping me go through the installation process, the boot process and mounting/unmounting the drives and fixing the partitions... <3
Also, for me, in order to detect the Windows Boot Manager, I had to enable Secure Boot which forcefully enabled UEFI mode. To do this, I had to freshly installed windows 10 again, and I also has to convert the partitions to GPT (as UEFI requires the partitions to be in GPT instead of MBR). After freshly installing windows 10 and setting it up. I then proceeded to install Linux mint. Only after all of this, my Mint detected the Windows Boot Manager and it even installed it automatically to the partition which I created for Linux Mint! (It is of 128 GB). To dual boot the easy way I personally recommend enabling UEFI so that your windows boot manager is detected in Mint. (IMO, as this worked for me!)
That's all.
I haven't tried out mint to its full potential yet. Let alone I haven't opened any of of the LibreOffice apps too. The Software Manager/installer seems to be pretty handy. The terminal feels much much more useful than CMD.
Thanks a lot winnyace for helping me go through the installation process, the boot process and mounting/unmounting the drives and fixing the partitions... <3
Also, for me, in order to detect the Windows Boot Manager, I had to enable Secure Boot which forcefully enabled UEFI mode. To do this, I had to freshly installed windows 10 again, and I also has to convert the partitions to GPT (as UEFI requires the partitions to be in GPT instead of MBR). After freshly installing windows 10 and setting it up. I then proceeded to install Linux mint. Only after all of this, my Mint detected the Windows Boot Manager and it even installed it automatically to the partition which I created for Linux Mint! (It is of 128 GB). To dual boot the easy way I personally recommend enabling UEFI so that your windows boot manager is detected in Mint. (IMO, as this worked for me!)
That's all.
Sadly I decided once to try Manjaro on a VM, it was laggy as heck even if it was i3, couldn't even install.
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Your first mistake: trying Manjaro.BluePyTheWDeer_ wrote:
Sadly I decided once to try Manjaro on a VM, it was laggy as heck even if it was i3, couldn't even install.
Not first, my ACTUAL first was breaking Arch. Like 5 times.Winnyace wrote:
Your first mistake: trying Manjaro.BluePyTheWDeer_ wrote:
Sadly I decided once to try Manjaro on a VM, it was laggy as heck even if it was i3, couldn't even install.
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That isn't a mistake, that's the indented learning curve. I'm only half joking here, to be honest.BluePyTheWDeer_ wrote:
Not first, my ACTUAL first was breaking Arch. Like 5 times.Winnyace wrote:
Your first mistake: trying Manjaro.BluePyTheWDeer_ wrote:
Sadly I decided once to try Manjaro on a VM, it was laggy as heck even if it was i3, couldn't even install.
I'm probably going to study Information Systems starting next year. Do you think I should start using Linux? ChatGPT recommended Linux Mint, but I read some people online saying it's not really necessary, and now I'm confused. For programming and things like that, is Linux so superior to Windows?
would imagine its worth it just to become familiar with unix, since most servers aren't going to be running a full on windows OS.Behrauder wrote:
I'm probably going to study Information Systems starting next year. Do you think I should start using Linux? ChatGPT recommended Linux Mint, but I read some people online saying it's not really necessary, and now I'm confused. For programming and things like that, is Linux so superior to Windows?
but Ive been following a web dev course that has me on ubuntu, and honestly compared to the times ive had to open a cmd window in windows, doing terminal work is a lot more inuitive with linux, file paths make more sense, theres built in manuals, etc. while with windows they actively try and keep you from needing/wanting to open the command line except to copy paste a magic command from google.
If you're gonna use your pc for studies don't use Linux, you'll 100% have to use stuff that's only on Windows.Behrauder wrote:
I'm probably going to study Information Systems starting next year. Do you think I should start using Linux? ChatGPT recommended Linux Mint, but I read some people online saying it's not really necessary, and now I'm confused. For programming and things like that, is Linux so superior to Windows?
You'll also most likely have to use Linux too for basic programming and stuff but WSL or a vm are more than enough for that.
I don't know why people have this disposition that you have to be a programmer to use or need to use linux to program. Like, that makes no sense.
I mean, sure. Most Linux distributions have it easier when you want to install a dependency library or something, but like, on windows you could just download visual studio and start coding.
This disposition of "hacking" just to have a usable operating system makes no sense, too. People, we don't use Spectrums or C64's anymore. Even then, you usually just use a load command on such computers to run software.
If anything, I think TempleOS fits this false Linux disposition a lot more, because you could actually edit the OS code on runtime.
I mean, sure. Most Linux distributions have it easier when you want to install a dependency library or something, but like, on windows you could just download visual studio and start coding.
This disposition of "hacking" just to have a usable operating system makes no sense, too. People, we don't use Spectrums or C64's anymore. Even then, you usually just use a load command on such computers to run software.
If anything, I think TempleOS fits this false Linux disposition a lot more, because you could actually edit the OS code on runtime.
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I'm a student in a CS major and most students use Windows. At the labs, it is a mixture of Windows and Linux. Some teachers have expressed directly that they don't really like Linux. Ultimately, many of the things you will learn during your time there will be on Windows, with Linux supported. If you want to use Linux, go ahead and install it. Linux Mint is honestly fine. Linux is, in my opinion, better for a developer, but it depends a lot on what you're also programming.Behrauder wrote:
I'm probably going to study Information Systems starting next year. Do you think I should start using Linux? ChatGPT recommended Linux Mint, but I read some people online saying it's not really necessary, and now I'm confused. For programming and things like that, is Linux so superior to Windows?
I was forced during the two years out of three of college here to use Windows once because the library I used was from the DOS era and it was only ported over to Windows. Yes, you hear that right, WinBGI was something I """learnt""". WSL or a VM also works, however, if you don't want to bother with the full thing.Karmine wrote:
If you're gonna use your pc for studies don't use Linux, you'll 100% have to use stuff that's only on Windows.
You'll also most likely have to use Linux too for basic programming and stuff but WSL or a vm are more than enough for that.
I agree with this. I honestly believe that, for basic things, Linux has a better desktop experience than Windows or MacOS. There are caveats, obviously, but seriously, for someone who does basic office work and multimedia, Linux works just as well as Windows, if not better.Isshiki Kaname wrote:
I don't know why people have this disposition that you have to be a programmer to use or need to use linux to program. Like, that makes no sense.
I mean, sure. Most Linux distributions have it easier when you want to install a dependency library or something, but like, on windows you could just download visual studio and start coding.
This disposition of "hacking" just to have a usable operating system makes no sense, too. People, we don't use Spectrums or C64's anymore. Even then, you usually just use a load command on such computers to run software.
If anything, I think TempleOS fits this false Linux disposition a lot more, because you could actually edit the OS code on runtime.
Okay, apparently using Linux is completely optional.Winnyace wrote:
I'm a student in a CS major and most students use Windows. At the labs, it is a mixture of Windows and Linux. Some teachers have expressed directly that they don't really like Linux. Ultimately, many of the things you will learn during your time there will be on Windows, with Linux supported. If you want to use Linux, go ahead and install it. Linux Mint is honestly fine. Linux is, in my opinion, better for a developer, but it depends a lot on what you're also programming.Behrauder wrote:
I'm probably going to study Information Systems starting next year. Do you think I should start using Linux? ChatGPT recommended Linux Mint, but I read some people online saying it's not really necessary, and now I'm confused. For programming and things like that, is Linux so superior to Windows?I was forced during the two years out of three of college here to use Windows once because the library I used was from the DOS era and it was only ported over to Windows. Yes, you hear that right, WinBGI was something I """learnt""". WSL or a VM also works, however, if you don't want to bother with the full thing.Karmine wrote:
If you're gonna use your pc for studies don't use Linux, you'll 100% have to use stuff that's only on Windows.
You'll also most likely have to use Linux too for basic programming and stuff but WSL or a vm are more than enough for that.I agree with this. I honestly believe that, for basic things, Linux has a better desktop experience than Windows or MacOS. There are caveats, obviously, but seriously, for someone who does basic office work and multimedia, Linux works just as well as Windows, if not better.Isshiki Kaname wrote:
I don't know why people have this disposition that you have to be a programmer to use or need to use linux to program. Like, that makes no sense.
I mean, sure. Most Linux distributions have it easier when you want to install a dependency library or something, but like, on windows you could just download visual studio and start coding.
This disposition of "hacking" just to have a usable operating system makes no sense, too. People, we don't use Spectrums or C64's anymore. Even then, you usually just use a load command on such computers to run software.
If anything, I think TempleOS fits this false Linux disposition a lot more, because you could actually edit the OS code on runtime.
From what I understand, I can program perfectly well on Windows, and there are even specific cases of things that cannot be done on Linux, not to mention that I'm already used to Windows 10, so I should stick with windows, and maybe consider using a VM or WSL.
linux is good for git, I dont think you're gonna use that.
everything else go with windows.
you're probably gonna get an OS architecture class of some sort, you can decide for yourself what better fits you by then.
everything else go with windows.
you're probably gonna get an OS architecture class of some sort, you can decide for yourself what better fits you by then.
Try to get a dual boot, with both Linux and Windows. If you do advanced stuff with computer you will most likely need Linux, and imo it's better having a dual boot than WSL or a virtual machine.Behrauder wrote:
I'm probably going to study Information Systems starting next year. Do you think I should start using Linux? ChatGPT recommended Linux Mint, but I read some people online saying it's not really necessary, and now I'm confused. For programming and things like that, is Linux so superior to Windows?
And it's possible in lab to still have Windows only stuff, such as Matlab.
Yea, it is better to just start dual booting at first, so when you get the Linux vibes, you can choose if you keep dual booting (if you need something that Linux doesn't support), or switch to Linux altogether.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
Try to get a dual boot, with both Linux and Windows. If you do advanced stuff with computer you will most likely need Linux, and imo it's better having a dual boot than WSL or a virtual machine.Behrauder wrote:
I'm probably going to study Information Systems starting next year. Do you think I should start using Linux? ChatGPT recommended Linux Mint, but I read some people online saying it's not really necessary, and now I'm confused. For programming and things like that, is Linux so superior to Windows?
And it's possible in lab to still have Windows only stuff, such as Matlab.