RMS loves you.- Marco - wrote:
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
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I swear, I can't even begin talking about something I like and I know because everybody under the fucking sun thinks I try to convert them. Holy fucking shit.
Tetris Effect: Connected is listed on ProtonDB as Platinum and it is Deck Verified, so it should work OOTB
I've Aokana, Senren Banka and Qualia installed. They work by simply calling Wine on the exe files. They're NekoNyan/Sekai Project versions of the games, however and it seems that the title Floral Flowlove isn't yet released by NekoNyan. If shit hits the fan bad, VMs are available (from VirtualBox to more advanced things like QEMU) and dual booting is IMO a valid option if you can afford to have two different HDDs in your computer or you have enough space for both OSes.
For the third title, I honestly have no idea. I'm sorry, but I simply can't even extract anything.
Pirated games on Linux is a mixed bag. There is one group that releases native games and Windows games that have pre-made prefixes and sometimes Wine versions. You can download the games pre-installed and then run them through Wine-ge or Proton (imo better) directly. I have had great results with these two in the past.
I honestly don't know what you meant in the final spoilerbox, so I will just skip it.
As a frame of reference, if the game is on Steam, there's a high chance it works OOTB or with minor tweaks. If not, it will depend on the game's popularity and how little Windows only components it uses.
EDIT: It may be more akin to Riot's Vanguard, actually.
4 GB DDR3 RAM
Intel Celeron J3060 @1.60 Ghz Dual-Core Processor
Intel Integrated Graphics(128 MB VRAM I think...)
Windows 10
It's an All-In-One PC which can run osu!stable, Minecraft, among us, DDLC and other low end games pretty nicely BUT it sucks in lazer. Like the performer drop is HIGHLY noticeable.
That's, I think, 3 of 5 good to go: Floral Flowlove, DEEMO -Reborn- and, somehow, DJMAX RESPECT V since XIGNCODE3 actually went on to support Linux, apparently (excellent work Valve!!).
Boykisser meme tho yes.
There's a reason why this is an Off Topic sub. Derailment and random replies are inevitable. 😊
And GD is dead, so it's better the thread to be here UwU
If Pop!_OS doesn't work for you, sure thing, look for more distros. If it does, don't distrohop just for the sake of doing that.
Also Fedora sucks for me. Of all editions I tried, only the Gnome ISO managed to boot past the bootloading screen Other ones have checksum errors
but Ive been following a web dev course that has me on ubuntu, and honestly compared to the times ive had to open a cmd window in windows, doing terminal work is a lot more inuitive with linux, file paths make more sense, theres built in manuals, etc. while with windows they actively try and keep you from needing/wanting to open the command line except to copy paste a magic command from google.
You'll also most likely have to use Linux too for basic programming and stuff but WSL or a vm are more than enough for that.
From what I understand, I can program perfectly well on Windows, and there are even specific cases of things that cannot be done on Linux, not to mention that I'm already used to Windows 10, so I should stick with windows, and maybe consider using a VM or WSL.
And it's possible in lab to still have Windows only stuff, such as Matlab.
DO NOT JOIN THE COMMUNITY
Microsoft Office as a win32 app is its own adventure if you need it on Linux. You're lucky if you can get away with LibreOffice, and that also works fine on Windows.
Video acceleration is leagues silly on Linux:
I got tired of Linux games a few months ago, found Windows boring, and now I'm on FreeBSD :p
FreeBSD is offering me better performance (30min vs 40min compile) and I'm liking how it does things the deeper I look into stuff.
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Why is that? Mainly because people who decide to go through this process actually enjoy it and want to talk about it. If you don't like it, ignore it or say you aren't interested.Dawns wrote:
How can you tell if someone uses Linux? Wait 30 minutes till they start trying to convert you!
Comparing WSL with actual Linux desktop is like comparing oranges to apples IMO. The primary use case for WSL is for developer workloads, IIRC, not GUI apps. It's possible to run them, but I see no reason to do so.Karmine wrote:
Legit the best advice for people who want to get to know Linux is using Windows and WSL.Polyspora wrote:
just use windows
I wish I had that as my first Linux experience instead of a shitty live usb with a gnome 🤢 interface.
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Uhh... don't worry about that. I don't want anything.sametdze wrote:
Fuck me, people are interested in it
Ill give you your 20 on monday, winny.
windows users:
linux users:
Polyspora wrote:
just use windows
linux users:
- Marco - wrote:
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
Corne2Plum3 wrote:
Try KDE plasma as desktop environmentPolyspora wrote:
gnome lmaoKarmine wrote:
Legit the best advice for people who want to get to know Linux is using Windows and WSL.Polyspora wrote:
just use windows
I wish I had that as my first Linux experience instead of a shitty live usb with a gnome 🤢 interface.
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Okay.Patatitta wrote:
windows users:Polyspora wrote:
just use windows
linux users:- Marco - wrote:
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!Corne2Plum3 wrote:
Try KDE plasma as desktop environmentPolyspora wrote:
gnome lmaoKarmine wrote:
Legit the best advice for people who want to get to know Linux is using Windows and WSL.Polyspora wrote:
just use windows
I wish I had that as my first Linux experience instead of a shitty live usb with a gnome 🤢 interface.
windows users don't need to discourage others from using linux
Hello, is this an off-topic subforum?
How to patch KDE2 under FreeBSD?
How to patch KDE2 under FreeBSD?
Sir, this is a Wendy's.Kobold84 wrote:
Hello, is this an off-topic subforum?
How to patch KDE2 under FreeBSD?
and vice versaz0z wrote:
windows users don't need to discourage others from using linux
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Re-read the first section of the original post. I quite clearly said people are free to use whatever works for them. If you don't want to use Linux, go ahead and don't use it.B0ii wrote:
and vice versaz0z wrote:
windows users don't need to discourage others from using linux
I swear, I can't even begin talking about something I like and I know because everybody under the fucking sun thinks I try to convert them. Holy fucking shit.
You guys aren't helpful holy God
Only the topic creator so far wrote awesome stuff here, why don't you guys actually exchange actual info
I may need a completely different device, a phone for example, with its notepad, to memo all the apps (and games) I need with me before I can uninstall Windows completely in favour of, say, Pop!_OS, but..............
For reference:
Lenovo Legion Y540
EDIT: For reference I tried using a virtual machine first, but Bottles couldn't even get started, so I thought maybe it's the idea I'm using a VM that's holding it back.
Only the topic creator so far wrote awesome stuff here, why don't you guys actually exchange actual info
I may need a completely different device, a phone for example, with its notepad, to memo all the apps (and games) I need with me before I can uninstall Windows completely in favour of, say, Pop!_OS, but..............
Tetris Effect: Connected
This one is a lost cause, thanks Microsoft. I'll need to re-buy this on Steam to even get started. Unless UWP on Linux is somewhat possible......
Floral Flowlove (フローラル・フローラブ)
I have a raw dump, for starters.
Some forums out there call out the Siglus engine as the problematic when it comes to launching this game, but what they don't know is the game not only needs the Japanese locale on Windows but as well the Japanese timezone setting. If I'm down to the NekoNyan translated release, well, crap, this is the one going into the Bottles I guess......assuming it works there, if I don't need Proton for it.
If this one works, automatically any other visual novel should work.
Some forums out there call out the Siglus engine as the problematic when it comes to launching this game, but what they don't know is the game not only needs the Japanese locale on Windows but as well the Japanese timezone setting. If I'm down to the NekoNyan translated release, well, crap, this is the one going into the Bottles I guess......assuming it works there, if I don't need Proton for it.
If this one works, automatically any other visual novel should work.
Princess Connect! Re:Dive (プリンセスコネクト！Re:Dive)
This one honestly has me thinking all the time, since it's a DMM GAMES release, and DMM in itself could be a DRM for some out there. I tried asking r/Priconne about this, but the post was immediately filtered and auto-deleted by reddit itself, which is a shame honestly, but reddit being reddit as usual. Whether Wine or Proton will do I'm not sure, since while there's the stuff like Lutris and Heroic, whether they can take in DMM Game Player or not is the question.
If this one works, retroactively Uma Musume: Pretty Derby (ウマ娘 プリティーダービー) should work as well.
If this one works, retroactively Uma Musume: Pretty Derby (ウマ娘 プリティーダービー) should work as well.
DEEMO -Reborn-
Pirated copy. I'm not going to buy this until Rayark redeem themselves after the AI fiasco.
In fact what makes this a problem is the fact I pirated it, given I don't know EXACTLY how Wine deals with these sorts of stuff. Or Proton at that. (Bottles is just a Wine interface after all.) If anyone on Linux pirated a Windows game before, any info would help.
In fact what makes this a problem is the fact I pirated it, given I don't know EXACTLY how Wine deals with these sorts of stuff. Or Proton at that. (Bottles is just a Wine interface after all.) If anyone on Linux pirated a Windows game before, any info would help.
DJMAX RESPECT V
I'll have to figure out for these aforementioned first before I can uninstall Windows, but maybe if anyone knows (please read the spoilerboxes) I could use help before experimenting with Pop!_OS (dualboot first) and getting any results, be it good or bad?I did not buy this yet.
XIGNCODE3.
Period.
XIGNCODE3.
Period.
For reference:
Lenovo Legion Y540
- Intel Core i7-9750H
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6GB
- 16GB DDR4-2666
- 256GB NVMe M.2 Gen3 + 1TB SATA 5400RPM
EDIT: For reference I tried using a virtual machine first, but Bottles couldn't even get started, so I thought maybe it's the idea I'm using a VM that's holding it back.
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Rizumu Tenshi wrote:
You guys aren't helpful holy God
Only the topic creator so far wrote awesome stuff here, why don't you guys actually exchange actual info
I may need a completely different device, a phone for example, with its notepad, to memo all the apps (and games) I need with me before I can uninstall Windows completely in favour of, say, Pop!_OS, but..............Tetris Effect: ConnectedThis one is a lost cause, thanks Microsoft. I'll need to re-buy this on Steam to even get started. Unless UWP on Linux is somewhat possible......Floral Flowlove (フローラル・フローラブ)I have a raw dump, for starters.
Some forums out there call out the Siglus engine as the problematic when it comes to launching this game, but what they don't know is the game not only needs the Japanese locale on Windows but as well the Japanese timezone setting. If I'm down to the NekoNyan translated release, well, crap, this is the one going into the Bottles I guess......assuming it works there, if I don't need Proton for it.
If this one works, automatically any other visual novel should work.Princess Connect! Re:Dive (プリンセスコネクト！Re:Dive)This one honestly has me thinking all the time, since it's a DMM GAMES release, and DMM in itself could be a DRM for some out there. I tried asking r/Priconne about this, but the post was immediately filtered and auto-deleted by reddit itself, which is a shame honestly, but reddit being reddit as usual. Whether Wine or Proton will do I'm not sure, since while there's the stuff like Lutris and Heroic, whether they can take in DMM Game Player or not is the question.
If this one works, retroactively Uma Musume: Pretty Derby (ウマ娘 プリティーダービー) should work as well.DEEMO -Reborn-Pirated copy. I'm not going to buy this until Rayark redeem themselves after the AI fiasco.
In fact what makes this a problem is the fact I pirated it, given I don't know EXACTLY how Wine deals with these sorts of stuff. Or Proton at that. (Bottles is just a Wine interface after all.) If anyone on Linux pirated a Windows game before, any info would help.DJMAX RESPECT VI'll have to figure out for these aforementioned first before I can uninstall Windows, but maybe if anyone knows (please read the spoilerboxes) I could use help before experimenting with Pop!_OS (dualboot first) and getting any results, be it good or bad?I did not buy this yet.
XIGNCODE3.
Period.
For reference:
Lenovo Legion Y540Detailed specs if curious
- Intel Core i7-9750H
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6GB
- 16GB DDR4-2666
- 256GB NVMe M.2 Gen3 + 1TB SATA 5400RPM
EDIT: For reference I tried using a virtual machine first, but Bottles couldn't even get started, so I thought maybe it's the idea I'm using a VM that's holding it back.
Tetris Effect: Connected is listed on ProtonDB as Platinum and it is Deck Verified, so it should work OOTB
I've Aokana, Senren Banka and Qualia installed. They work by simply calling Wine on the exe files. They're NekoNyan/Sekai Project versions of the games, however and it seems that the title Floral Flowlove isn't yet released by NekoNyan. If shit hits the fan bad, VMs are available (from VirtualBox to more advanced things like QEMU) and dual booting is IMO a valid option if you can afford to have two different HDDs in your computer or you have enough space for both OSes.
For the third title, I honestly have no idea. I'm sorry, but I simply can't even extract anything.
Pirated games on Linux is a mixed bag. There is one group that releases native games and Windows games that have pre-made prefixes and sometimes Wine versions. You can download the games pre-installed and then run them through Wine-ge or Proton (imo better) directly. I have had great results with these two in the past.
I honestly don't know what you meant in the final spoilerbox, so I will just skip it.
As a frame of reference, if the game is on Steam, there's a high chance it works OOTB or with minor tweaks. If not, it will depend on the game's popularity and how little Windows only components it uses.
Can you run Linux on a garbage PC, let me pull up the specs for you:
2 GB DDR3 RAM
Intel Pentium dual core cpu
Integrated Graphics
Windows 10
2 GB DDR3 RAM
Intel Pentium dual core cpu
Integrated Graphics
Windows 10
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The fact you're running Windows 10 on that is extremely impressive. Anyway, yes, yes you can. In fact, it might actually work better. Linux Lite or Lubuntu would work better than Windows on that I think
XIGNCODE3 is much akin to EasyAntiCheat basically, but I hear BAD stuff about specifically XIGNCODE3 and possibly word of it being actually illegal in America......Winnyace wrote:
I honestly don't know what you meant in the final spoilerbox, so I will just skip it.
EDIT: It may be more akin to Riot's Vanguard, actually.
The OS doesn't lag but the games do. Like it can run Minecraft Java pretty fine, but sucks to run lazer and sometimes even stable client.Winnyace wrote:
The fact you're running Windows 10 on that is extremely impressive. Anyway, yes, yes you can. In fact, it might actually work better. Linux Lite or Lubuntu would work better than Windows on that I think
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I'm just confused how you have trouble running stable compared to Minecraft Java, to be honest.Rhythm32 wrote:
The OS doesn't lag but the games do. Like it can run Minecraft Java pretty fine, but sucks to run lazer and sometimes even stable client.Winnyace wrote:
The fact you're running Windows 10 on that is extremely impressive. Anyway, yes, yes you can. In fact, it might actually work better. Linux Lite or Lubuntu would work better than Windows on that I think
maybe he's playing at very low settings or something... idk... im 99% sure that osu is a less demanding game compared to minecraft.Winnyace wrote:
I'm just confused how you have trouble running stable compared to Minecraft Java, to be honest.Rhythm32 wrote:
The OS doesn't lag but the games do. Like it can run Minecraft Java pretty fine, but sucks to run lazer and sometimes even stable client.Winnyace wrote:
The fact you're running Windows 10 on that is extremely impressive. Anyway, yes, yes you can. In fact, it might actually work better. Linux Lite or Lubuntu would work better than Windows on that I think
like this is pretty low end specs tbh, at that point its most likely the hardware's fault that causing the games to lag.Rhythm32 wrote:
2 GB DDR3 RAM
Intel Pentium dual core cpu
Integrated Graphics
Windows 10
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Even then, Minecraft Java Edition is known to be a beast of a game that can put down systems with a 4090 in it, at least without mods.Hydreigon wrote:
maybe he's playing at very low settings or something... idk... im 99% sure that osu is a less demanding game compared to minecraft.Winnyace wrote:
I'm just confused how you have trouble running stable compared to Minecraft Java, to be honest.Rhythm32 wrote:
The OS doesn't lag but the games do. Like it can run Minecraft Java pretty fine, but sucks to run lazer and sometimes even stable client.Winnyace wrote:
The fact you're running Windows 10 on that is extremely impressive. Anyway, yes, yes you can. In fact, it might actually work better. Linux Lite or Lubuntu would work better than Windows on that I think
yeah i think rendering distance mostly contributes to that, at least it can be changed to low for the one's with 2gb ram pc's to high for the ultimate gamers.Winnyace wrote:
Even then, Minecraft Java Edition is known to be a beast of a game that can put down systems with a 4090 in it, at least without mods.
Speaking of Siglus VNs. I had no problems running it personally, though I did use a nocd crack.
I forgot to mention that the stable client lags pretty rarely. That's my sister's pc specs. The PC which I have is a BIT better. My PC specs are:Winnyace wrote:
I'm just confused how you have trouble running stable compared to Minecraft Java, to be honest.Rhythm32 wrote:
The OS doesn't lag but the games do. Like it can run Minecraft Java pretty fine, but sucks to run lazer and sometimes even stable client.Winnyace wrote:
The fact you're running Windows 10 on that is extremely impressive. Anyway, yes, yes you can. In fact, it might actually work better. Linux Lite or Lubuntu would work better than Windows on that I think
4 GB DDR3 RAM
Intel Celeron J3060 @1.60 Ghz Dual-Core Processor
Intel Integrated Graphics(128 MB VRAM I think...)
Windows 10
It's an All-In-One PC which can run osu!stable, Minecraft, among us, DDLC and other low end games pretty nicely BUT it sucks in lazer. Like the performer drop is HIGHLY noticeable.
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I see. That explains things better, to be honest.Rhythm32 wrote:
I forgot to mention that the stable client lags pretty rarely. That's my sister's pc specs. The PC which I have is a BIT better. My PC specs are:Winnyace wrote:
I'm just confused how you have trouble running stable compared to Minecraft Java, to be honest.Rhythm32 wrote:
The OS doesn't lag but the games do. Like it can run Minecraft Java pretty fine, but sucks to run lazer and sometimes even stable client.Winnyace wrote:
The fact you're running Windows 10 on that is extremely impressive. Anyway, yes, yes you can. In fact, it might actually work better. Linux Lite or Lubuntu would work better than Windows on that I think
4 GB DDR3 RAM
Intel Celeron J3060 @1.60 Ghz Dual-Core Processor
Intel Integrated Graphics(128 MB VRAM I think...)
Windows 10
It's an All-In-One PC which can run osu!stable, Minecraft, among us, DDLC and other low end games pretty nicely BUT it sucks in lazer. Like the performer drop is HIGHLY noticeable.
i used to have an All in one PC, they really do suck in the gaming side, but there cheap and serviceable enough for normal stuff like studies or certain work.Rhythm32 wrote:
It's an All-In-One PC which can run osu!stable, Minecraft, among us, DDLC and other low end games pretty nicely BUT it sucks in lazer. Like the performer drop is HIGHLY noticeable.
Sounds like a (relative to what I have) previous Saga Planets VN since I don't remember any brand that used the Siglus engine with AlphaROM, but thanks for the hint. I still may have to experiment, but that means I could cross Floral Flowlove as OK.KatouMegumi wrote:
Speaking of Siglus VNs. I had no problems running it personally, though I did use a nocd crack.
That's, I think, 3 of 5 good to go: Floral Flowlove, DEEMO -Reborn- and, somehow, DJMAX RESPECT V since XIGNCODE3 actually went on to support Linux, apparently (excellent work Valve!!).
I would use GNU/Linux but my 1060 doesn't want to work using passthough 
Admittedly the title I was reading was Hatsukoi 1/1Rizumu Tenshi wrote:
Sounds like a (relative to what I have) previous Saga Planets VN since I don't remember any brand that used the Siglus engine with AlphaROM, but thanks for the hint. I still may have to experiment, but that means I could cross Floral Flowlove as OK.KatouMegumi wrote:
Speaking of Siglus VNs. I had no problems running it personally, though I did use a nocd crack.
That's, I think, 3 of 5 good to go: Floral Flowlove, DEEMO -Reborn- and, somehow, DJMAX RESPECT V since XIGNCODE3 actually went on to support Linux, apparently (excellent work Valve!!).
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Why do you need to use a VM?- Marco - wrote:
I would use GNU/Linux but my 1060 doesn't want to work using passthough
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Oh and also no one besides extremely posh and somewhat weird people say call it GNU/Linux.
total furry death
You know how Hitler's doctor was actually a Jew but Hitler spared him?Polyspora wrote:
not eblfYmir wrote:
total furry death
thats uh, interesting I guessYmir wrote:
You know how Hitler's doctor was actually a Jew but Hitler spared him?Polyspora wrote:
not eblfYmir wrote:
total furry death
No.Ymir wrote:
total furry death
Boykisser meme tho yes.
Enough of that bullshit, you guys absolutely ruined the chance this topic could be moved to General Discussion.
I should start looking into other distros as well, though, not just stick to Pop!_OS...
I should start looking into other distros as well, though, not just stick to Pop!_OS...
Off-Topic > General DiscussionRizumu Tenshi wrote:
Enough of that bullshit, you guys absolutely ruined the chance this topic could be moved to General Discussion.
I should start looking into other distros as well, though, not just stick to Pop!_OS...
I used Linux back in college.
And the OS feels like it's eerily clean that I feel like it's illegal to use it for games or something that's not of professional use.
And the OS feels like it's eerily clean that I feel like it's illegal to use it for games or something that's not of professional use.
ah yes, the ultimate honor that a thread on OT can aspire to, killed by being moved to another subforumRizumu Tenshi wrote:
Enough of that bullshit, you guys absolutely ruined the chance this topic could be moved to General Discussion.
I should start looking into other distros as well, though, not just stick to Pop!_OS...
Typical Tourist Behavior.Patatitta wrote:
ah yes, the ultimate honor that a thread on OT can aspire to, killed by being moved to another subforumRizumu Tenshi wrote:
Enough of that bullshit, you guys absolutely ruined the chance this topic could be moved to General Discussion.
I should start looking into other distros as well, though, not just stick to Pop!_OS...
There's a reason why this is an Off Topic sub. Derailment and random replies are inevitable. 😊
And GD is dead, so it's better the thread to be here UwU
Even though this is a good enough thread to be put on General Discussion, OP put it in OT first. You don't typically see threads getting moved out of OT unless it's a language issue.Rizumu Tenshi wrote:
Enough of that bullshit, you guys absolutely ruined the chance this topic could be moved to General Discussion.
I should start looking into other distros as well, though, not just stick to Pop!_OS...
I had installed Mint today. Not because of this thread however, I have ubuntu installed on a different PC. For now it feels somewhat better.
i have gamepass untill June 😳👉👈Winnyace wrote:
Why do you need to use a VM?- Marco - wrote:
I would use GNU/Linux but my 1060 doesn't want to work using passthough
I don't understand anything about Linux and I'm not going to read all of this. So I quickly researched Linux on the internet and found this:
I think I'll take that as tl;dr lol. /j
I think I'll take that as tl;dr lol. /j
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The thread wasn't meant to be in GD, so I don't know why you're feeling so mad.Rizumu Tenshi wrote:
Enough of that bullshit, you guys absolutely ruined the chance this topic could be moved to General Discussion.
I should start looking into other distros as well, though, not just stick to Pop!_OS...
If Pop!_OS doesn't work for you, sure thing, look for more distros. If it does, don't distrohop just for the sake of doing that.
Oh. I see. I think there's a way to get that working under Linux natively, but I don't know.- Marco - wrote:
i have gamepass untill June 😳👉👈Winnyace wrote:
Why do you need to use a VM?- Marco - wrote:
I would use GNU/Linux but my 1060 doesn't want to work using passthough
Oh don't worry, I mean to see if there's any better choice before committing to avoid distro hopping.Winnyace wrote:
The thread wasn't meant to be in GD, so I don't know why you're feeling so mad.Rizumu Tenshi wrote:
Enough of that bullshit, you guys absolutely ruined the chance this topic could be moved to General Discussion.
I should start looking into other distros as well, though, not just stick to Pop!_OS...
If Pop!_OS doesn't work for you, sure thing, look for more distros. If it does, don't distrohop just for the sake of doing that.
Great guide for convincing players to try Linux. Although I advise to use a more up-to-date distro like Fedora or Ubuntu since Linux Mint updates only periodically which would cause issues on people that run on more newer hardware (which is common nowadays).
I've seen countless people trying Linux for the first time through Linux Mint and almost all of them encounter issues. The main cause of their issues is mostly due to an outdated kernel out of the box and they had to research for hours when simply using a later kernel version from the Kernel Manager fixes all of their issues. A lot of first-time Linux users fail to encounter this solution and just quits overall before they can come across it.
As of now, Linux Mint uses a more up-to-date kernel that supports most hardware out right now, which makes it fine to use right now, but it'll get outdated sooner than you think and in the future, the same thing will happen again due to newer hardware coming out every year while Linux Mint updates every 2 years.
I recommend Fedora or Fedora-based distros. They're very beginner-friendly and the only hard part of using Fedora is from the installer. Once you've passed that, you'll run into little to no issues using your PC. You can stay up-to-date while being very stable with Fedora.
I've seen countless people trying Linux for the first time through Linux Mint and almost all of them encounter issues. The main cause of their issues is mostly due to an outdated kernel out of the box and they had to research for hours when simply using a later kernel version from the Kernel Manager fixes all of their issues. A lot of first-time Linux users fail to encounter this solution and just quits overall before they can come across it.
As of now, Linux Mint uses a more up-to-date kernel that supports most hardware out right now, which makes it fine to use right now, but it'll get outdated sooner than you think and in the future, the same thing will happen again due to newer hardware coming out every year while Linux Mint updates every 2 years.
I recommend Fedora or Fedora-based distros. They're very beginner-friendly and the only hard part of using Fedora is from the installer. Once you've passed that, you'll run into little to no issues using your PC. You can stay up-to-date while being very stable with Fedora.
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Linux mint "edge" edition exists. It shipped with latest kernel iircUnknown Duck wrote:
Great guide for convincing players to try Linux. Although I advise to use a more up-to-date distro like Fedora or Ubuntu since Linux Mint updates only periodically which would cause issues on people that run on more newer hardware (which is common nowadays).
I've seen countless people trying Linux for the first time through Linux Mint and almost all of them encounter issues. The main cause of their issues is mostly due to an outdated kernel out of the box and they had to research for hours when simply using a later kernel version from the Kernel Manager fixes all of their issues. A lot of first-time Linux users fail to encounter this solution and just quits overall before they can come across it.
As of now, Linux Mint uses a more up-to-date kernel that supports most hardware out right now, which makes it fine to use right now, but it'll get outdated sooner than you think and in the future, the same thing will happen again due to newer hardware coming out every year while Linux Mint updates every 2 years.
I recommend Fedora or Fedora-based distros. They're very beginner-friendly and the only hard part of using Fedora is from the installer. Once you've passed that, you'll run into little to no issues using your PC. You can stay up-to-date while being very stable with Fedora.
Also Fedora sucks for me. Of all editions I tried, only the Gnome ISO managed to boot past the bootloading screen Other ones have checksum errors
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Either work in my eyes. I have used Linux Mint as my primary distro back when I was starting out and it worked more than okay. I have used Fedora Plasma Spin too for a little bit recently and it worked as expected.Unknown Duck wrote:
Great guide for convincing players to try Linux. Although I advise to use a more up-to-date distro like Fedora or Ubuntu since Linux Mint updates only periodically which would cause issues on people that run on more newer hardware (which is common nowadays).
I've seen countless people trying Linux for the first time through Linux Mint and almost all of them encounter issues. The main cause of their issues is mostly due to an outdated kernel out of the box and they had to research for hours when simply using a later kernel version from the Kernel Manager fixes all of their issues. A lot of first-time Linux users fail to encounter this solution and just quits overall before they can come across it.
As of now, Linux Mint uses a more up-to-date kernel that supports most hardware out right now, which makes it fine to use right now, but it'll get outdated sooner than you think and in the future, the same thing will happen again due to newer hardware coming out every year while Linux Mint updates every 2 years.
I recommend Fedora or Fedora-based distros. They're very beginner-friendly and the only hard part of using Fedora is from the installer. Once you've passed that, you'll run into little to no issues using your PC. You can stay up-to-date while being very stable with Fedora.
So, I already use linux as my main computer, but I recently started mapping in the Lazer version on linux.
It's pretty fun, But I can't figure out how to actually upload any maps when using linux.
It's pretty fun, But I can't figure out how to actually upload any maps when using linux.
Hi,
You need to run the stable version to upload (I use wine to run it), since uploading beatmaps isn't implemented in lazer yet. I just do all my mapping in lazer, then export a file and move it to my stable folder.
You need to run the stable version to upload (I use wine to run it), since uploading beatmaps isn't implemented in lazer yet. I just do all my mapping in lazer, then export a file and move it to my stable folder.
why is this in off-topic
I will definitely switch full time once Windows 10 goes EOL
osu! (not lazer) works good on FreeBSD 14.1 through 32-bit Wine! I did winetricks mono_remove, dotnet20, dotnet40, and dotnet45, but I'm pretty sure only dotnet45 is needed.
Can't use Lazer because no native FreeBSD compatibility, it's win64-only (FreeBSD Wine is either 32 or 64, no both, I chose 32) and it won't compile (something dotnet-related iirc doesn't support FreeBSD).
Can't use Lazer because no native FreeBSD compatibility, it's win64-only (FreeBSD Wine is either 32 or 64, no both, I chose 32) and it won't compile (something dotnet-related iirc doesn't support FreeBSD).
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Great to hear that osu! stable runs under BSD. I don't think peppy will waste time making Lazer compatible on BSD, mostly because BSD isn't ran all that much as a desktop OS, like Linux. The fact Lazer even supports Linux is great though.Espionage724 wrote:
osu! (not lazer) works good on FreeBSD 14.1 through 32-bit Wine! I did winetricks mono_remove, dotnet20, dotnet40, and dotnet45, but I'm pretty sure only dotnet45 is needed.
Can't use Lazer because no native FreeBSD compatibility, it's win64-only (FreeBSD Wine is either 32 or 64, no both, I chose 32) and it won't compile (something dotnet-related iirc doesn't support FreeBSD).
Looks like you.burgernfat wrote:
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KatouMegumi wrote:
Looks like you.burgernfat wrote:
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But you know, that's fine. Just don't act superior and smug, like some of the idiots of this sub-forum.
russian secret service agent doxxed my ass ...KatouMegumi wrote:
Looks like you.burgernfat wrote:
Mint. I love mint. Might as well try Linux Mint someday... When I have time to do that stuff. Ugh.
A VM is gonna save me.
A VM is gonna save me.
Yeah. Try it out in a VM, see if you like it and then decide if you're gonna switch.
I have installed Linux Mint 22 Cinnamon on my 2016 AIO HP PC successfully! The reason why I am stating the year of my pc is because of the fact that it has shitty specs... 4 GB DDR3 RAM (ugh), Intel Celeron J3060 (trash), Intel Integrated Graphics with 128 MB VRAM (also trash).
I haven't tried out mint to its full potential yet. Let alone I haven't opened any of of the LibreOffice apps too. The Software Manager/installer seems to be pretty handy. The terminal feels much much more useful than CMD.
Thanks a lot winnyace for helping me go through the installation process, the boot process and mounting/unmounting the drives and fixing the partitions... <3
Also, for me, in order to detect the Windows Boot Manager, I had to enable Secure Boot which forcefully enabled UEFI mode. To do this, I had to freshly installed windows 10 again, and I also has to convert the partitions to GPT (as UEFI requires the partitions to be in GPT instead of MBR). After freshly installing windows 10 and setting it up. I then proceeded to install Linux mint. Only after all of this, my Mint detected the Windows Boot Manager and it even installed it automatically to the partition which I created for Linux Mint! (It is of 128 GB). To dual boot the easy way I personally recommend enabling UEFI so that your windows boot manager is detected in Mint. (IMO, as this worked for me!)
That's all.
I haven't tried out mint to its full potential yet. Let alone I haven't opened any of of the LibreOffice apps too. The Software Manager/installer seems to be pretty handy. The terminal feels much much more useful than CMD.
Thanks a lot winnyace for helping me go through the installation process, the boot process and mounting/unmounting the drives and fixing the partitions... <3
Also, for me, in order to detect the Windows Boot Manager, I had to enable Secure Boot which forcefully enabled UEFI mode. To do this, I had to freshly installed windows 10 again, and I also has to convert the partitions to GPT (as UEFI requires the partitions to be in GPT instead of MBR). After freshly installing windows 10 and setting it up. I then proceeded to install Linux mint. Only after all of this, my Mint detected the Windows Boot Manager and it even installed it automatically to the partition which I created for Linux Mint! (It is of 128 GB). To dual boot the easy way I personally recommend enabling UEFI so that your windows boot manager is detected in Mint. (IMO, as this worked for me!)
That's all.
Sadly I decided once to try Manjaro on a VM, it was laggy as heck even if it was i3, couldn't even install.
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Your first mistake: trying Manjaro.BluePyTheWDeer_ wrote:
Sadly I decided once to try Manjaro on a VM, it was laggy as heck even if it was i3, couldn't even install.
Not first, my ACTUAL first was breaking Arch. Like 5 times.Winnyace wrote:
Your first mistake: trying Manjaro.BluePyTheWDeer_ wrote:
Sadly I decided once to try Manjaro on a VM, it was laggy as heck even if it was i3, couldn't even install.
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That isn't a mistake, that's the indented learning curve. I'm only half joking here, to be honest.BluePyTheWDeer_ wrote:
Not first, my ACTUAL first was breaking Arch. Like 5 times.Winnyace wrote:
Your first mistake: trying Manjaro.BluePyTheWDeer_ wrote:
Sadly I decided once to try Manjaro on a VM, it was laggy as heck even if it was i3, couldn't even install.
I'm probably going to study Information Systems starting next year. Do you think I should start using Linux? ChatGPT recommended Linux Mint, but I read some people online saying it's not really necessary, and now I'm confused. For programming and things like that, is Linux so superior to Windows?
would imagine its worth it just to become familiar with unix, since most servers aren't going to be running a full on windows OS.Behrauder wrote:
I'm probably going to study Information Systems starting next year. Do you think I should start using Linux? ChatGPT recommended Linux Mint, but I read some people online saying it's not really necessary, and now I'm confused. For programming and things like that, is Linux so superior to Windows?
but Ive been following a web dev course that has me on ubuntu, and honestly compared to the times ive had to open a cmd window in windows, doing terminal work is a lot more inuitive with linux, file paths make more sense, theres built in manuals, etc. while with windows they actively try and keep you from needing/wanting to open the command line except to copy paste a magic command from google.
If you're gonna use your pc for studies don't use Linux, you'll 100% have to use stuff that's only on Windows.Behrauder wrote:
I'm probably going to study Information Systems starting next year. Do you think I should start using Linux? ChatGPT recommended Linux Mint, but I read some people online saying it's not really necessary, and now I'm confused. For programming and things like that, is Linux so superior to Windows?
You'll also most likely have to use Linux too for basic programming and stuff but WSL or a vm are more than enough for that.
I don't know why people have this disposition that you have to be a programmer to use or need to use linux to program. Like, that makes no sense.
I mean, sure. Most Linux distributions have it easier when you want to install a dependency library or something, but like, on windows you could just download visual studio and start coding.
This disposition of "hacking" just to have a usable operating system makes no sense, too. People, we don't use Spectrums or C64's anymore. Even then, you usually just use a load command on such computers to run software.
If anything, I think TempleOS fits this false Linux disposition a lot more, because you could actually edit the OS code on runtime.
I mean, sure. Most Linux distributions have it easier when you want to install a dependency library or something, but like, on windows you could just download visual studio and start coding.
This disposition of "hacking" just to have a usable operating system makes no sense, too. People, we don't use Spectrums or C64's anymore. Even then, you usually just use a load command on such computers to run software.
If anything, I think TempleOS fits this false Linux disposition a lot more, because you could actually edit the OS code on runtime.
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I'm a student in a CS major and most students use Windows. At the labs, it is a mixture of Windows and Linux. Some teachers have expressed directly that they don't really like Linux. Ultimately, many of the things you will learn during your time there will be on Windows, with Linux supported. If you want to use Linux, go ahead and install it. Linux Mint is honestly fine. Linux is, in my opinion, better for a developer, but it depends a lot on what you're also programming.Behrauder wrote:
I'm probably going to study Information Systems starting next year. Do you think I should start using Linux? ChatGPT recommended Linux Mint, but I read some people online saying it's not really necessary, and now I'm confused. For programming and things like that, is Linux so superior to Windows?
I was forced during the two years out of three of college here to use Windows once because the library I used was from the DOS era and it was only ported over to Windows. Yes, you hear that right, WinBGI was something I """learnt""". WSL or a VM also works, however, if you don't want to bother with the full thing.Karmine wrote:
If you're gonna use your pc for studies don't use Linux, you'll 100% have to use stuff that's only on Windows.
You'll also most likely have to use Linux too for basic programming and stuff but WSL or a vm are more than enough for that.
I agree with this. I honestly believe that, for basic things, Linux has a better desktop experience than Windows or MacOS. There are caveats, obviously, but seriously, for someone who does basic office work and multimedia, Linux works just as well as Windows, if not better.Isshiki Kaname wrote:
I don't know why people have this disposition that you have to be a programmer to use or need to use linux to program. Like, that makes no sense.
I mean, sure. Most Linux distributions have it easier when you want to install a dependency library or something, but like, on windows you could just download visual studio and start coding.
This disposition of "hacking" just to have a usable operating system makes no sense, too. People, we don't use Spectrums or C64's anymore. Even then, you usually just use a load command on such computers to run software.
If anything, I think TempleOS fits this false Linux disposition a lot more, because you could actually edit the OS code on runtime.
Okay, apparently using Linux is completely optional.Winnyace wrote:
I'm a student in a CS major and most students use Windows. At the labs, it is a mixture of Windows and Linux. Some teachers have expressed directly that they don't really like Linux. Ultimately, many of the things you will learn during your time there will be on Windows, with Linux supported. If you want to use Linux, go ahead and install it. Linux Mint is honestly fine. Linux is, in my opinion, better for a developer, but it depends a lot on what you're also programming.Behrauder wrote:
I'm probably going to study Information Systems starting next year. Do you think I should start using Linux? ChatGPT recommended Linux Mint, but I read some people online saying it's not really necessary, and now I'm confused. For programming and things like that, is Linux so superior to Windows?I was forced during the two years out of three of college here to use Windows once because the library I used was from the DOS era and it was only ported over to Windows. Yes, you hear that right, WinBGI was something I """learnt""". WSL or a VM also works, however, if you don't want to bother with the full thing.Karmine wrote:
If you're gonna use your pc for studies don't use Linux, you'll 100% have to use stuff that's only on Windows.
You'll also most likely have to use Linux too for basic programming and stuff but WSL or a vm are more than enough for that.I agree with this. I honestly believe that, for basic things, Linux has a better desktop experience than Windows or MacOS. There are caveats, obviously, but seriously, for someone who does basic office work and multimedia, Linux works just as well as Windows, if not better.Isshiki Kaname wrote:
I don't know why people have this disposition that you have to be a programmer to use or need to use linux to program. Like, that makes no sense.
I mean, sure. Most Linux distributions have it easier when you want to install a dependency library or something, but like, on windows you could just download visual studio and start coding.
This disposition of "hacking" just to have a usable operating system makes no sense, too. People, we don't use Spectrums or C64's anymore. Even then, you usually just use a load command on such computers to run software.
If anything, I think TempleOS fits this false Linux disposition a lot more, because you could actually edit the OS code on runtime.
From what I understand, I can program perfectly well on Windows, and there are even specific cases of things that cannot be done on Linux, not to mention that I'm already used to Windows 10, so I should stick with windows, and maybe consider using a VM or WSL.
linux is good for git, I dont think you're gonna use that.
everything else go with windows.
you're probably gonna get an OS architecture class of some sort, you can decide for yourself what better fits you by then.
everything else go with windows.
you're probably gonna get an OS architecture class of some sort, you can decide for yourself what better fits you by then.
Try to get a dual boot, with both Linux and Windows. If you do advanced stuff with computer you will most likely need Linux, and imo it's better having a dual boot than WSL or a virtual machine.Behrauder wrote:
I'm probably going to study Information Systems starting next year. Do you think I should start using Linux? ChatGPT recommended Linux Mint, but I read some people online saying it's not really necessary, and now I'm confused. For programming and things like that, is Linux so superior to Windows?
And it's possible in lab to still have Windows only stuff, such as Matlab.
Yea, it is better to just start dual booting at first, so when you get the Linux vibes, you can choose if you keep dual booting (if you need something that Linux doesn't support), or switch to Linux altogether.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
Try to get a dual boot, with both Linux and Windows. If you do advanced stuff with computer you will most likely need Linux, and imo it's better having a dual boot than WSL or a virtual machine.Behrauder wrote:
I'm probably going to study Information Systems starting next year. Do you think I should start using Linux? ChatGPT recommended Linux Mint, but I read some people online saying it's not really necessary, and now I'm confused. For programming and things like that, is Linux so superior to Windows?
And it's possible in lab to still have Windows only stuff, such as Matlab.
Honestly yeah, this is extremely useful for cases like mine for example, where I'm just fully chosing to move over to linux, however any normal/casual or even competitive players with normal pc's and needs pretty much shouldnt lol,Polyspora wrote:
just use windows
this one I heard its pretty much recommended a lot for gaming on linux overall, although these days Nobara seems to be the most and best popular optionCorne2Plum3 wrote:
Try KDE plasma as desktop environmentPolyspora wrote:
gnome lmaoKarmine wrote:
Legit the best advice for people who want to get to know Linux is using Windows and WSL.Polyspora wrote:
just use windows
I wish I had that as my first Linux experience instead of a shitty live usb with a gnome 🤢 interface.
if upgrading to win11 isnt an option for you (same case for me since my computer doesnt supported, why I hopped to linux in the first place) I'd tell ya to do your research on linux, watch videos and wait for Windows 10 Support (the security one it is I think) to end in 2025, then maybe think or try to hop over to linux and try it outBehrauder wrote:
Okay, apparently using Linux is completely optional.Winnyace wrote:
I'm a student in a CS major and most students use Windows. At the labs, it is a mixture of Windows and Linux. Some teachers have expressed directly that they don't really like Linux. Ultimately, many of the things you will learn during your time there will be on Windows, with Linux supported. If you want to use Linux, go ahead and install it. Linux Mint is honestly fine. Linux is, in my opinion, better for a developer, but it depends a lot on what you're also programming.Behrauder wrote:
I'm probably going to study Information Systems starting next year. Do you think I should start using Linux? ChatGPT recommended Linux Mint, but I read some people online saying it's not really necessary, and now I'm confused. For programming and things like that, is Linux so superior to Windows?I was forced during the two years out of three of college here to use Windows once because the library I used was from the DOS era and it was only ported over to Windows. Yes, you hear that right, WinBGI was something I """learnt""". WSL or a VM also works, however, if you don't want to bother with the full thing.Karmine wrote:
If you're gonna use your pc for studies don't use Linux, you'll 100% have to use stuff that's only on Windows.
You'll also most likely have to use Linux too for basic programming and stuff but WSL or a vm are more than enough for that.I agree with this. I honestly believe that, for basic things, Linux has a better desktop experience than Windows or MacOS. There are caveats, obviously, but seriously, for someone who does basic office work and multimedia, Linux works just as well as Windows, if not better.Isshiki Kaname wrote:
I don't know why people have this disposition that you have to be a programmer to use or need to use linux to program. Like, that makes no sense.
I mean, sure. Most Linux distributions have it easier when you want to install a dependency library or something, but like, on windows you could just download visual studio and start coding.
This disposition of "hacking" just to have a usable operating system makes no sense, too. People, we don't use Spectrums or C64's anymore. Even then, you usually just use a load command on such computers to run software.
If anything, I think TempleOS fits this false Linux disposition a lot more, because you could actually edit the OS code on runtime.
From what I understand, I can program perfectly well on Windows, and there are even specific cases of things that cannot be done on Linux, not to mention that I'm already used to Windows 10, so I should stick with windows, and maybe consider using a VM or WSL.
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Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC exists, if you really can't stomach Linux, nor Windows 11.
Hi, I have a simple question, is mapping in stable possible without any problems?
I have been using ubuntu server for about 6 years, so I am not afraid of using the terminal and doing troubleshooting, but I have no experience with the desktop.
If possible, I am considering switching to Linux as there is no reason for me to continue using windows.
I have been using ubuntu server for about 6 years, so I am not afraid of using the terminal and doing troubleshooting, but I have no experience with the desktop.
If possible, I am considering switching to Linux as there is no reason for me to continue using windows.
Yes.Shinku wrote:
Hi, I have a simple question, is mapping in stable possible without any problems?
I have been using ubuntu server for about 6 years, so I am not afraid of using the terminal and doing troubleshooting, but I have no experience with the desktop.
If possible, I am considering switching to Linux as there is no reason for me to continue using windows.
Thank you, I will try it when I'm ready to completely move to Linuxgreat_elmo wrote:
Yes.
Use it if you need.Shinku wrote:
Hi, I have a simple question, is mapping in stable possible without any problems?
I have been using ubuntu server for about 6 years, so I am not afraid of using the terminal and doing troubleshooting, but I have no experience with the desktop.
If possible, I am considering switching to Linux as there is no reason for me to continue using windows.
DO NOT JOIN THE COMMUNITY
Unless you're using Arch, Ubuntu, or Mint, you'll have to get actively involved in patent games with codecs. In Fedora's case, they use RPM Fusion, which had the fun ordeal of mesa-freeworld (AMDGPU video accel) causing broken graphcis stacks when their package clashed with Fedora's package on genuine updates. openSUSE seems lucky, but Pacman still exists.Winnyace wrote:
I agree with this. I honestly believe that, for basic things, Linux has a better desktop experience than Windows or MacOS. There are caveats, obviously, but seriously, for someone who does basic office work and multimedia, Linux works just as well as Windows, if not better.
Microsoft Office as a win32 app is its own adventure if you need it on Linux. You're lucky if you can get away with LibreOffice, and that also works fine on Windows.
Video acceleration is leagues silly on Linux:
- VLC can't do VA-API (Intel/AMD); yeah there's VDPAU-to-VAAPI, but that's silly vs straight DXVA
- Other players can do VA-API/anything under the sun: Fair, but you gotta find em, and know what you're doing (not a default with mpv Linux/FreeBSD; default under any sane player under Windows)
- Firefox's handling of HEVC is real funny :p (they claim to not support it under some good-guy royalties thing, while silently supporting it Android and Windows; Windows doing it through MFT; Firefox can hardware-accel HEVC on Windows no problem free with device HEVC or that $1 thing)
I got tired of Linux games a few months ago, found Windows boring, and now I'm on FreeBSD :p
... how do you find an OS boring?Espionage724 wrote:
I got tired of Linux games a few months ago, found Windows boring, and now I'm on FreeBSD :p
I tweak things for performance, and I got Windows down the best my hardware can do. All my software works with it well. It's boringly perfect :pPatatitta wrote:
... how do you find an OS boring?Espionage724 wrote:
I got tired of Linux games a few months ago, found Windows boring, and now I'm on FreeBSD :p
FreeBSD is offering me better performance (30min vs 40min compile) and I'm liking how it does things the deeper I look into stuff.
I mean, why do you want performance if the moment you get good performance you're going to switch and try again, OS are tools, you're supposed to do things on themEspionage724 wrote:
I tweak things for performance, and I got Windows down the best my hardware can do. All my software works with it well. It's boringly perfect :pPatatitta wrote:
... how do you find an OS boring?Espionage724 wrote:
I got tired of Linux games a few months ago, found Windows boring, and now I'm on FreeBSD :p
FreeBSD is offering me better performance (30min vs 40min compile) and I'm liking how it does things the deeper I look into stuff.
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Some people prefer to tweak things endlessly. You might see them as tools, some might see them as toys. If the guy likes to spend his time this way, there is nothing wrong.Patatitta wrote:
I mean, why do you want performance if the moment you get good performance you're going to switch and try again, OS are tools, you're supposed to do things on themEspionage724 wrote:
I tweak things for performance, and I got Windows down the best my hardware can do. All my software works with it well. It's boringly perfect :pPatatitta wrote:
... how do you find an OS boring?Espionage724 wrote:
I got tired of Linux games a few months ago, found Windows boring, and now I'm on FreeBSD :p
FreeBSD is offering me better performance (30min vs 40min compile) and I'm liking how it does things the deeper I look into stuff.
That's what I do, I seek better performance wherever possible :pPatatitta wrote:
I mean, why do you want performance if the moment you get good performance you're going to switch and try again, OS are tools, you're supposed to do things on themEspionage724 wrote:
I tweak things for performance, and I got Windows down the best my hardware can do. All my software works with it well. It's boringly perfect :pPatatitta wrote:
... how do you find an OS boring?Espionage724 wrote:
I got tired of Linux games a few months ago, found Windows boring, and now I'm on FreeBSD :p
FreeBSD is offering me better performance (30min vs 40min compile) and I'm liking how it does things the deeper I look into stuff.
fair, I guess my problem with this and the reason why I pointed it out it's because it feels insincere?, it's fine to say you're doing it for fun, but saying you're trying x doing y because it's faster or more optimal when that really isn't the case felt bad to meWinnyace wrote:
Some people prefer to tweak things endlessly. You might see them as tools, some might see them as toys. If the guy likes to spend his time this way, there is nothing wrong.Patatitta wrote:
I mean, why do you want performance if the moment you get good performance you're going to switch and try again, OS are tools, you're supposed to do things on themEspionage724 wrote:
I tweak things for performance, and I got Windows down the best my hardware can do. All my software works with it well. It's boringly perfect :pPatatitta wrote:
... how do you find an OS boring?Espionage724 wrote:
I got tired of Linux games a few months ago, found Windows boring, and now I'm on FreeBSD :p
FreeBSD is offering me better performance (30min vs 40min compile) and I'm liking how it does things the deeper I look into stuff.
FreeBSD is faster and more optimal to me than Linux, and is faster to me than Windows. Technically Linux and FreeBSD is more optimal than Windows on my server, but I like consistency. I generally know what I'm doing :pPatatitta wrote:
fair, I guess my problem with this and the reason why I pointed it out it's because it feels insincere?, it's fine to say you're doing it for fun, but saying you're trying x doing y because it's faster or more optimal when that really isn't the case felt bad to meWinnyace wrote:
Some people prefer to tweak things endlessly. You might see them as tools, some might see them as toys. If the guy likes to spend his time this way, there is nothing wrong.Patatitta wrote:
I mean, why do you want performance if the moment you get good performance you're going to switch and try again, OS are tools, you're supposed to do things on themEspionage724 wrote:
I tweak things for performance, and I got Windows down the best my hardware can do. All my software works with it well. It's boringly perfect :pPatatitta wrote:
... how do you find an OS boring?Espionage724 wrote:
I got tired of Linux games a few months ago, found Windows boring, and now I'm on FreeBSD :p
FreeBSD is offering me better performance (30min vs 40min compile) and I'm liking how it does things the deeper I look into stuff.
with the line "but saying you're trying x doing y because it's faster or more optimal when that really isn't the case felt bad to me" I meant "but saying you're trying x doing y because it's faster or more optimal when you're actually just doing it for fun and that isn't really your highest priority feels bad to me"Espionage724 wrote:
FreeBSD is faster and more optimal to me than Linux, and is faster to me than Windows. Technically Linux and FreeBSD is more optimal than Windows on my server, but I like consistency. I generally know what I'm doing :pPatatitta wrote:
fair, I guess my problem with this and the reason why I pointed it out it's because it feels insincere?, it's fine to say you're doing it for fun, but saying you're trying x doing y because it's faster or more optimal when that really isn't the case felt bad to meWinnyace wrote:
Some people prefer to tweak things endlessly. You might see them as tools, some might see them as toys. If the guy likes to spend his time this way, there is nothing wrong.Patatitta wrote:
I mean, why do you want performance if the moment you get good performance you're going to switch and try again, OS are tools, you're supposed to do things on themEspionage724 wrote:
I tweak things for performance, and I got Windows down the best my hardware can do. All my software works with it well. It's boringly perfect :pPatatitta wrote:
... how do you find an OS boring?Espionage724 wrote:
I got tired of Linux games a few months ago, found Windows boring, and now I'm on FreeBSD :p
FreeBSD is offering me better performance (30min vs 40min compile) and I'm liking how it does things the deeper I look into stuff.