As President, I will establish explicit community guidelines discouraging necroposting, as there are currently no rules in place regarding this issue. Given the common occurrence of accidental necroposts, I don't intend to enforce strict actions for such cases. However, deliberate and repeated necroposting without valid reasons will prompt intervention by a moderator.igorsprite wrote:
as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
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though it's a shame how easy it is to make good threads from the past disappear by simply posting in them
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I'd like to call it, the "Cleaning project." the plan is simple, the poster's post on the necroed thread will instead just be deleted and sent back in time to its original state before the necro, this has been done before in some occasions back then, without the need of using lethal locking forces or tactical nukes, this helps in not only preserving the thread back in time to its original state before the necro, but giving the front page a much cleaner look without it littered with necroed threads of all sorts, making accessing other thread easier making it all clean, just like the Philippines!*
*this is a joke, Philippines stinks, get me off this island-
As for the people that do necro posting, most first time or less excessive necro posters (or peeps who just do it for the meme's) won't receive punishments of sorts, as really, most cases tend to be the lurker people not being able to heed the warning, and of course, repeated or intentional necro posting will receive much harsher punishments, such as silences, and if... just maybe, to the point of very excessive necro posting behavior, exile.
It will be also evaluated that not all necroposting is all bad, such as threads that intentionally are necroed after periods of time or old game threads that the op want to be revived (or maybe other stuff like meme's and laughs) either way, these wont received harsh punishments stated above, so long as its evaluated properly by the mods, the government, and i, that it is a necessary necro.
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Hear me out z0z, I have a plan, vote for me, and i will make the transport of import beef produces and the production of beef illegal.
No more will your animal friends suffer and be slowly cooked to death, now you can live and be free
Meanwhile the A-breaking lab, using my funding as president, will make a sort of beef substitute, one that may look, taste and smell like beef, but isnt beef made out of beef.
With our research we will soon be able to make fake animal meat replicas of all sorts, and will soon make the consumption of other eating living animals meat such as cats or pokemons, illegal!
so yeah
still beta testing, a lot of struggle on pushing that is foreseen, but we're getting there.
so you can tell what are you going to do about necroposting
Long answer: read the thread I did before making ot!eras
I think people are overthinking about it 'what does the title mean' or similar questions. The Problem with denizen imo is that first not every denizen has been chosen by the same rule. Personally I dont see the requirement of 8month of activity and 20pages as bad. I think its a worth requirement since You would be on the list for forever unlike in OT! eras which have short requirement but you will be not there in future eras if you are inactive.
As a president I will redo all the denizen with the requirement of 6months of activity and 10pages of post count. I think its a low amount but many want it to be this lower so be it. "An achievement of some sort" is a requirement which I will remove since I value the time you have spend with the community more than what quality threads you have made. And not to mention what is quality is very biased thing and will lead to problem in future.
did he even do anything Lol
Overall, a president that mostly showed a lack of activity and actions, and thus for almost the entire year.
Okay i forgot to add it while making my insane speech. "To stop the ever weakening strength of government" in the line I meant to recreate the gov or you may say as reform
questions that only ask about one's opinion don't require a lengthy answer, i could simply say "bad" but that one would be clearly against the rules - one word answers are not allowed.
Oi karmine stop bullying this dude
This will be discussed by the government and definitely changed, as this has now have caused problems with our current generation, plans for what will be the appropriate change will be discussed by me, the parliament and other future members of the government such as the future vice president.
As i do have some plans for changes, such as a shorter waiting time but still giving it the fairness and more prestige of one receiving the denizenship title, i still want to discuss this with other members of the government to make the changes right and appropriate to the denizens as possible.
And perhaps a better description of the 10th gen too.
Sadly, i wasnt active around the time eblf became president, but from what i could gather, there really wasnt much that happened during eblf's term, due to his less activity in OT.
I dont really want to follow this, hence why i plan for there to be a new vice president role during my term, so that in ever the case i do recede in activity, the vice president can temporarily take control.
also "you" as in the candidates
Personally, I don't like it at all when a user receive silence in OT! but if I became President and its your 2-3rd time doing it on purpose. I will not go against a moderator to stop your silence.
Everyone have worked for it and so will he(if he want denizen Title). When I become President, revoking his Denizen title be the 2nd thing I will do.
For newfags, it's a weird topic to talk about, since most of them are children still, some people who aren't children do act in the same way as some of them lmao. Everything very happy flower positive vibes (* ^ ω ^), look at my hyperfixation, i'm part of this very specific fandom and no I refuse to ever venture outside my comfort zone and I will completely missrepresent the work of fiction i've based my entire personality around (like i'm sorry but I feel like a lot of y'all don't get omori)
what happens is that we have a faction of people that basically only wants to disrupt OT/want to go back to the old days, a faction of people that basically wants for everything to be as family friendly as possible, and neither of them actually have the willpower to try to make any change happen. I don't think the actual relationship is bad, I have yet to really see any conflict, but it's true that they are two very different groups of people
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you already get muted and the original posts gets wastelanded why even change thatigorsprite wrote:
as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
though it's a shame how easy it is to make good threads from the past disappear by simply posting in them
Not wastelanded, just locked, sometimes with posts deleted. You can still access them.Zain Sugieres wrote:
you already get muted and the original posts gets wastelanded why even change thatigorsprite wrote:
as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
though it's a shame how easy it is to make good threads from the past disappear by simply posting in them
most of the ones i necrod got wastelanded so i just assumed most of them doKobold84 wrote:
Not wastelanded, just locked, sometimes with posts deleted. You can still access them.Zain Sugieres wrote:
you already get muted and the original posts gets wastelanded why even change thatigorsprite wrote:
as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
though it's a shame how easy it is to make good threads from the past disappear by simply posting in them
As president and also as GMT, I'll just lock the threads, and silence if it' repetitive. I'm not really into deletion as people are not notified when their post got deleted, which may be confused. To avoid questions such as "wHy My PoSt GoT dElEtEd?" and to clearly show them why they did wrong, I just lock the thread, which imo is enough as it prevents futures lock on this same thread. But of course it's to discourage users to not necropost.igorsprite wrote:
as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
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Fun fact: this is common that GMT does that outside of Off-TopicZain Sugieres wrote:
most of the ones i necrod got wastelanded so i just assumed most of them do
Weird, maybe it was like that in the past. I don't see recent necro'd threads in the wasteland.Zain Sugieres wrote:
most of the ones i necrod got wastelanded so i just assumed most of them doKobold84 wrote:
Not wastelanded, just locked, sometimes with posts deleted. You can still access them.Zain Sugieres wrote:
you already get muted and the original posts gets wastelanded why even change thatigorsprite wrote:
as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
though it's a shame how easy it is to make good threads from the past disappear by simply posting in them
I think he was talking about his posts, deleting entire threads because it got necro'd doesn't make any sense.Kobold84 wrote:
Weird, maybe it was like that in the past. I don't see recent necro'd threads in the wasteland.Zain Sugieres wrote:
most of the ones i necrod got wastelanded so i just assumed most of them doKobold84 wrote:
Not wastelanded, just locked, sometimes with posts deleted. You can still access them.Zain Sugieres wrote:
you already get muted and the original posts gets wastelanded why even change thatigorsprite wrote:
as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
though it's a shame how easy it is to make good threads from the past disappear by simply posting in them
Nah u gotta think about it tho, Calvin nudes if u vote for DannyApraxye wrote:
Asian Warlord has my vote.
ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
Candidate Asian Warlord has failed to answer 3 questions, therefore he will be disqualified from the 2022 OT Presidential Election.
As of making this post, Asian Warlord will not be able to continue his Presidential Campaign.
igorsprite wrote:
as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
I'd like to call it, the "Cleaning project." the plan is simple, the poster's post on the necroed thread will instead just be deleted and sent back in time to its original state before the necro, this has been done before in some occasions back then, without the need of using lethal locking forces or tactical nukes, this helps in not only preserving the thread back in time to its original state before the necro, but giving the front page a much cleaner look without it littered with necroed threads of all sorts, making accessing other thread easier making it all clean, just like the Philippines!*
*this is a joke, Philippines stinks, get me off this island-
As for the people that do necro posting, most first time or less excessive necro posters (or peeps who just do it for the meme's) won't receive punishments of sorts, as really, most cases tend to be the lurker people not being able to heed the warning, and of course, repeated or intentional necro posting will receive much harsher punishments, such as silences, and if... just maybe, to the point of very excessive necro posting behavior, exile.
It will be also evaluated that not all necroposting is all bad, such as threads that intentionally are necroed after periods of time or old game threads that the op want to be revived (or maybe other stuff like meme's and laughs) either way, these wont received harsh punishments stated above, so long as its evaluated properly by the mods, the government, and i, that it is a necessary necro.
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how are y'all convincing
Hear me out z0z, I have a plan, vote for me, and i will make the transport of import beef produces and the production of beef illegal.
No more will your animal friends suffer and be slowly cooked to death, now you can live and be free
Meanwhile the A-breaking lab, using my funding as president, will make a sort of beef substitute, one that may look, taste and smell like beef, but isnt beef made out of beef.
With our research we will soon be able to make fake animal meat replicas of all sorts, and will soon make the consumption of other eating living animals meat such as cats or pokemons, illegal!
so yeah
Absolutely nothing. This responsibility falls upon that of the GMT and since not all the GMT on OT is under the jurisdiction of the OT!gov and the president, enforcing against necroposting is just all bark and no bite. If the GMT actually do listen to the OT!gov instead of being a separate entity, then we can talk about what action I will take againt necroposting.igorsprite wrote:
as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
thats what we doing now.ShinRun wrote:
If the GMT actually do listen to the OT!gov instead of being a separate entity.igorsprite wrote:
as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
still beta testing, a lot of struggle on pushing that is foreseen, but we're getting there.
so you can tell what are you going to do about necroposting
btw the president elected this year and future years will actually be able to make changes.
the government is whatever we want it to be, so uh take this one seriously ok guys?
the government is whatever we want it to be, so uh take this one seriously ok guys?
I'm very fluffy :3z0z wrote:
how are y'all convincing
He spitting factsCorne2Plum3 wrote:
I'm very fluffy :3z0z wrote:
how are y'all convincing
I think you were supposed to dm the questions for them to actually count as a batch, but yeah, I don't think real change is needed rn, just, lock whenever gets necro and if they get REALLY fucking annoying just exileigorsprite wrote:
as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
Only denizens can DM questions, and then candidates HAVE TO answer (some of) them. Dwellers have to ask questions themselves and it's safe to ignore them.Patatitta wrote:
I think you were supposed to dm the questions for them to actually count as a batch, but yeah, I don't think real change is needed rn, just, lock whenever gets necro and if they get REALLY fucking annoying just exileigorsprite wrote:
as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
oh that's stupid, I would let anyone submit questions lmaoKobold84 wrote:
Only denizens can DM questions, and then candidates HAVE TO answer (some of) them. Dwellers have to ask questions themselves and it's safe to ignore them.Patatitta wrote:
I think you were supposed to dm the questions for them to actually count as a batch, but yeah, I don't think real change is needed rn, just, lock whenever gets necro and if they get REALLY fucking annoying just exileigorsprite wrote:
as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
21Hydreigon wrote:
what's 9 + 10?
I think people are scared too much of 'random dude out of OT!'. Thats why denizen requirement is there.Patatitta wrote:
oh that's stupid, I would let anyone submit questions lmaoKobold84 wrote:
Only denizens can DM questions, and then candidates HAVE TO answer (some of) them. Dwellers have to ask questions themselves and it's safe to ignore them.Patatitta wrote:
I think you were supposed to dm the questions for them to actually count as a batch, but yeah, I don't think real change is needed rn, just, lock whenever gets necro and if they get REALLY fucking annoying just exileigorsprite wrote:
as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
I can understand that for votes, but for questions?, that's kinda weirdManishh wrote:
I think people are scared too much of 'random dude out of OT!'. Thats why denizen requirement is there.Patatitta wrote:
oh that's stupid, I would let anyone submit questions lmaoKobold84 wrote:
Only denizens can DM questions, and then candidates HAVE TO answer (some of) them. Dwellers have to ask questions themselves and it's safe to ignore them.Patatitta wrote:
I think you were supposed to dm the questions for them to actually count as a batch, but yeah, I don't think real change is needed rn, just, lock whenever gets necro and if they get REALLY fucking annoying just exileigorsprite wrote:
as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
I guess the thinking is probably, If its for the votes, why not for the questions as wellPatatitta wrote:
I can understand that for votes, but for questions?, that's kinda weirdManishh wrote:
I think people are scared too much of 'random dude out of OT!'. Thats why denizen requirement is there.Patatitta wrote:
oh that's stupid, I would let anyone submit questions lmaoKobold84 wrote:
Only denizens can DM questions, and then candidates HAVE TO answer (some of) them. Dwellers have to ask questions themselves and it's safe to ignore them.Patatitta wrote:
I think you were supposed to dm the questions for them to actually count as a batch, but yeah, I don't think real change is needed rn, just, lock whenever gets necro and if they get REALLY fucking annoying just exileigorsprite wrote:
as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
so you're telling me you're getting rid of separation of powers.Polyspora wrote:
thats what we doing now.ShinRun wrote:
If the GMT actually do listen to the OT!gov instead of being a separate entity.igorsprite wrote:
as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
still beta testing, a lot of struggle on pushing that is foreseen, but we're getting there.
so you can tell what are you going to do about necroposting
me? tf do you think I am lolZain Sugieres wrote:
so you're telling me you're getting rid of separation of powers.Polyspora wrote:
thats what we doing now.ShinRun wrote:
If the GMT actually do listen to the OT!gov instead of being a separate entity.igorsprite wrote:
as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
still beta testing, a lot of struggle on pushing that is foreseen, but we're getting there.
so you can tell what are you going to do about necroposting
i legit have no idea who you arw but if you say "we" of course ill reply with "you"Polyspora wrote:
me? tf do you think I am lolZain Sugieres wrote:
so you're telling me you're getting rid of separation of powers.Polyspora wrote:
thats what we doing now.ShinRun wrote:
If the GMT actually do listen to the OT!gov instead of being a separate entity.igorsprite wrote:
as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
still beta testing, a lot of struggle on pushing that is foreseen, but we're getting there.
so you can tell what are you going to do about necroposting
Topic Starter
good shit looks like most people showed up. anyways lets jump straight into the first batch. 2 easy questions to warm up innit.
Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think of the denizen system?
[quote="Kobold84"]What do you think of the denizen system?[/quote]
ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?
[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?[/quote]
Short answer: it's bad, it doesn't represent anything, we aren't even following the rules anymore, there are no use cases, it creates more drama than it does good, and no one even agrees what a denizen is.Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think of the denizen system?
Long answer: read the thread I did before making ot!eras
cool guy but he didn't do shit, they just did the bare minimum of trying to keep the denizens coming but even that has gone badly, with people just being added now for the elections, having people who deserve it not have it yet, and even making mistakes like the one they did with blushingClevelandsMyBro wrote:
What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?
My honest opinion is that there is nothing wrong with it. I don't know what kind of special powers you want. It is perfect what it is right now.Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think of the denizen system?
Can't blame the dude, there is nothing you can do.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?
Denizenship itself isnt a bad idea. I see it more as a Hall of fame and not a title which gives power to people.Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think of the denizen system?
I think people are overthinking about it 'what does the title mean' or similar questions. The Problem with denizen imo is that first not every denizen has been chosen by the same rule. Personally I dont see the requirement of 8month of activity and 20pages as bad. I think its a worth requirement since You would be on the list for forever unlike in OT! eras which have short requirement but you will be not there in future eras if you are inactive.
As a president I will redo all the denizen with the requirement of 6months of activity and 10pages of post count. I think its a low amount but many want it to be this lower so be it. "An achievement of some sort" is a requirement which I will remove since I value the time you have spend with the community more than what quality threads you have made. And not to mention what is quality is very biased thing and will lead to problem in future.
As a person I think he is a great guy but as a President, he did a very bad job. In his time, no parliament election happened which made the already dead parliament to become more dead. I dont hate ymir and poly but I think it was a very bad idea to not choose an election to fix the dead parliament. The government has done nothing other than electing denizen and not even being transparent with the process. Not to mention that they didnt even change the blushing mistake and chose to run away from the problem.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?
I disagere with you manishh, if the problem is that not every denizen was chosen under the same rule, how would changing the rule AGAIN help?
also, in eras you don't lose your rank, I just replaced gens with years and that's about it
edit: also, to make clear, I don't plan on making eras a staple of OT, I get that denizen has all the reputation and stuf and I would work to try to solve that first
also, in eras you don't lose your rank, I just replaced gens with years and that's about it
edit: also, to make clear, I don't plan on making eras a staple of OT, I get that denizen has all the reputation and stuf and I would work to try to solve that first
the denizen system is too much official bureaucratic bs and we should go back to the old days of just calling people newfagsClevelandsMyBro wrote:
good shit looks like most people showed up. anyways lets jump straight into the first batch. 2 easy questions to warm up innit.Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think of the denizen system?[quote="Kobold84"]What do you think of the denizen system?[/quote]ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?[/quote]
did he even do anything Lol
I dont really wanna change the rule either. But I wanna get rid of the impatient people who are like, "8months is too long and 20 pages of post is just post farm". I want to make the requirement simple and a requirement which dont change again.Patatitta wrote:
I disagere with you manishh, if the problem is that not every denizen was chosen under the same rule, how would changing the rule AGAIN help?
My bad here, I had a bit confusion about it. But I feel like OT! eras is more like knowing who been the most active guy all around the years/eras, since Its not very hard to get into OT!Eras. Thats why for me a person getting in a OT! era is not as impressive as a person being in multiple erasPatatitta wrote:
also, in eras you don't lose your rank, I just replaced gens with years and that's about it
Did you even read the rules? your answer are most likely be seen as unanswered. I dont know why I am helping you but I guess why notZain Sugieres wrote:
the denizen system is too much official bureaucratic bs and we should go back to the old days of just calling people newfagsClevelandsMyBro wrote:
good shit looks like most people showed up. anyways lets jump straight into the first batch. 2 easy questions to warm up innit.Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think of the denizen system?[quote="Kobold84"]What do you think of the denizen system?[/quote]ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?[/quote]
did he even do anything Lol
that's not the problem tho, the problem is denizens being overdue and not recieving denizenManishh wrote:
I dont really wanna change the rule either. But I wanna get rid of the impatient people who are like, "8months is too long and 20 pages of post is just post farm". I want to make the requirement simple and a requirement which dont change again.Patatitta wrote:
I disagere with you manishh, if the problem is that not every denizen was chosen under the same rule, how would changing the rule AGAIN help?
Yeah I know that, Thats why I want to make the selection more transparentPatatitta wrote:
that's not the problem tho, the problem is denizens being overdue and not recieving denizenManishh wrote:
I dont really wanna change the rule either. But I wanna get rid of the impatient people who are like, "8months is too long and 20 pages of post is just post farm". I want to make the requirement simple and a requirement which dont change again.Patatitta wrote:
I disagere with you manishh, if the problem is that not every denizen was chosen under the same rule, how would changing the rule AGAIN help?
would transparency fix the problem of inactivity at the higher level tho?Manishh wrote:
Yeah I know that, Thats why I want to make the selection more transparentPatatitta wrote:
that's not the problem tho, the problem is denizens being overdue and not recieving denizenManishh wrote:
I dont really wanna change the rule either. But I wanna get rid of the impatient people who are like, "8months is too long and 20 pages of post is just post farm". I want to make the requirement simple and a requirement which dont change again.Patatitta wrote:
I disagere with you manishh, if the problem is that not every denizen was chosen under the same rule, how would changing the rule AGAIN help?
Definitely. Right now the only thing we have is there words. "we make a list of future denizens" which either they manage it very badly or it does not even exist. By it being transparent, they will receive critism if it is being badly managePatatitta wrote:
would transparency fix the problem of inactivity at the higher level tho?Manishh wrote:
Yeah I know that, Thats why I want to make the selection more transparentPatatitta wrote:
that's not the problem tho, the problem is denizens being overdue and not recieving denizenManishh wrote:
I dont really wanna change the rule either. But I wanna get rid of the impatient people who are like, "8months is too long and 20 pages of post is just post farm". I want to make the requirement simple and a requirement which dont change again.Patatitta wrote:
I disagere with you manishh, if the problem is that not every denizen was chosen under the same rule, how would changing the rule AGAIN help?
I mean, the list may still not exist, you just avoid them from lying, but that wouldn't make them do something, you would need to reform the gov to actually get change to happenManishh wrote:
Definitely. Right now the only thing we have is there words. "we make a list of future denizens" which either they manage it very badly or it does not even existPatatitta wrote:
would transparency fix the problem of inactivity at the higher level tho?Manishh wrote:
Yeah I know that, Thats why I want to make the selection more transparentPatatitta wrote:
that's not the problem tho, the problem is denizens being overdue and not recieving denizenManishh wrote:
I dont really wanna change the rule either. But I wanna get rid of the impatient people who are like, "8months is too long and 20 pages of post is just post farm". I want to make the requirement simple and a requirement which dont change again.Patatitta wrote:
I disagere with you manishh, if the problem is that not every denizen was chosen under the same rule, how would changing the rule AGAIN help?
It's outdated, leaving a large part of the current active user behind. Imo the requirements are too high and too long, it's not longer reflecting the active userbase of OT. It has to be improved for sure, to it actually reflects active users.Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think of the denizen system?
Sorry eblf2013 to be harsh, but to be honest, he didn't do too much, it was like he wasn't here. There was clearly a lack of activity and actions from him, to a point being sometimes secondary at taking some decision, and members of the council doing much more than what he did. And this rule added mid-elections to remove "inactive" candidate while they already registered, was just wrong imo, both in the idea and the execution. I can understand it was made to avoid inactive users, but this rule should have been added before the elections, and not during the elections. And the fact this was transmitted by someone else and not the president himself is another proof of eblf2013's lack of activity, in addition of being an unfair decision.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?
Overall, a president that mostly showed a lack of activity and actions, and thus for almost the entire year.
As I said to manishh, the requirements aren't the problem. The requirement for denizen has changed like 5 times over the years and we still have the exact same problem, it's something more fundamentalCorne2Plum3 wrote:
It's outdated, leaving a large part of the current active user behind. Imo the requirements are too high and too long, it's not longer reflecting the active userbase of OT. It has to be improved for sure, to it actually reflects active users.Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think of the denizen system?
Yeah and thats in the list of what i will do, Did i forgot to mention it in the registration phase?Patatitta wrote:
I mean, the list may still not exist, you just avoid them from lying, but that wouldn't make them do something, you would need to reform the gov to actually get change to happenManishh wrote:
Definitely. Right now the only thing we have is there words. "we make a list of future denizens" which either they manage it very badly or it does not even existPatatitta wrote:
would transparency fix the problem of inactivity at the higher level tho?Manishh wrote:
Yeah I know that, Thats why I want to make the selection more transparentPatatitta wrote:
that's not the problem tho, the problem is denizens being overdue and not recieving denizenManishh wrote:
I dont really wanna change the rule either. But I wanna get rid of the impatient people who are like, "8months is too long and 20 pages of post is just post farm". I want to make the requirement simple and a requirement which dont change again.Patatitta wrote:
I disagere with you manishh, if the problem is that not every denizen was chosen under the same rule, how would changing the rule AGAIN help?
Okay i forgot to add it while making my insane speech. "To stop the ever weakening strength of government" in the line I meant to recreate the gov or you may say as reform
idk tbh I haven't really checked, was working exclusively with the information you gave in this threadManishh wrote:
Yeah and thats in the list of what i will do, Did i forgot to mention it in the registration phase?Patatitta wrote:
I mean, the list may still not exist, you just avoid them from lying, but that wouldn't make them do something, you would need to reform the gov to actually get change to happenManishh wrote:
Definitely. Right now the only thing we have is there words. "we make a list of future denizens" which either they manage it very badly or it does not even existPatatitta wrote:
would transparency fix the problem of inactivity at the higher level tho?Manishh wrote:
Yeah I know that, Thats why I want to make the selection more transparentPatatitta wrote:
that's not the problem tho, the problem is denizens being overdue and not recieving denizenManishh wrote:
I dont really wanna change the rule either. But I wanna get rid of the impatient people who are like, "8months is too long and 20 pages of post is just post farm". I want to make the requirement simple and a requirement which dont change again.Patatitta wrote:
I disagere with you manishh, if the problem is that not every denizen was chosen under the same rule, how would changing the rule AGAIN help?
I did a edit ^
yeah that's fairManishh wrote:
I did a edit ^
this question goes to patatitta: do you have a foot fetish?
I don'tigorsprite wrote:
this question goes to patatitta: do you have a foot fetish?
Yeah, I dont think its only him, but the whole parliament member thinking is similar. Let the problem happen first, then we will fix itCorne2Plum3 wrote:
Sorry eblf2013 to be harsh, but to be honest, he didn't do too much, it was like he wasn't here. There was clearly a lack of activity and actions from him, to a point being sometimes secondary at taking some decision, and members of the council doing much more than what he did. And this rule added mid-elections to remove "inactive" candidate while they already registered, was just wrong imo, both in the idea and the execution. I can understand it was made to avoid inactive users, but this rule should have been added before the elections, and not during the elections. And the fact this was transmitted by someone else and not the president himself is another proof of eblf2013's lack of activity, in addition of being an unfair decision.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?
Overall, a president that mostly showed a lack of activity and actions, and thus for almost the entire year.
Patatitta wrote:
I don'tigorsprite wrote:
this question goes to patatitta: do you have a foot fetish?
Patatitta wrote:
I don'tigorsprite wrote:
this question goes to patatitta: do you have a foot fetish?
i have specified my stance clearly, 1st question i have specified my view on the denizen clearly and my solution to it, in the 2nd question its pretty obvious the guy didnt do anything as president and as such my opinion of him is negative - thats pretty clear from my answer and if you dont see that then sorry im not going to write a 500 word essay on why i find his inactivity badManishh wrote:
Did you even read the rules? your answer are most likely be seen as unanswered. I dont know why I am helping you but I guess why notZain Sugieres wrote:
the denizen system is too much official bureaucratic bs and we should go back to the old days of just calling people newfagsClevelandsMyBro wrote:
good shit looks like most people showed up. anyways lets jump straight into the first batch. 2 easy questions to warm up innit.Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think of the denizen system?[quote="Kobold84"]What do you think of the denizen system?[/quote]ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?[/quote]
did he even do anything Lol
questions that only ask about one's opinion don't require a lengthy answer, i could simply say "bad" but that one would be clearly against the rules - one word answers are not allowed.
You do you
My answers are related to the context and are not one letter/word answers - clearly not in violation of any rules.
if anything this is another case of unclear rules - something to watch out for whenever someone leads the elections again.
if anything this is another case of unclear rules - something to watch out for whenever someone leads the elections again.
Dude really going out of his way to troll this election.
Karmine wrote:
Dude really going out of his way to troll this election.
Can we get some candidate protection in here? I feel attacked on a personal level.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
- Treat everyone properly and keep it civil. You obviously have a right for free speech and expression of yourself, but you shall not use those rights to attack a candidate with slander or any other way to undermine someone's presidential campaign. Constructive criticism is welcome, however.
lmao you really think the op care about it?Zain Sugieres wrote:
Karmine wrote:
Dude really going out of his way to troll this election.Can we get some candidate protection in here? I feel attacked on a personal level.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
- Treat everyone properly and keep it civil. You obviously have a right for free speech and expression of yourself, but you shall not use those rights to attack a candidate with slander or any other way to undermine someone's presidential campaign. Constructive criticism is welcome, however.
Oi karmine stop bullying this dude
69th post
Wait how the fuck i've missed this lmao, i haven't seen this thread until now...
Damn! You are going to regret this mistake for whole year...Jun Maeda wrote:
Wait how the fuck i've missed this lmao, i haven't seen this thread until now...
Stating a fact is an attack? Damn.Zain Sugieres wrote:
Karmine wrote:
Dude really going out of his way to troll this election.Can we get some candidate protection in here? I feel attacked on a personal level.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
- Treat everyone properly and keep it civil. You obviously have a right for free speech and expression of yourself, but you shall not use those rights to attack a candidate with slander or any other way to undermine someone's presidential campaign. Constructive criticism is welcome, however.
keep projecting.Karmine wrote:
Stating a fact is an attack? Damn.Zain Sugieres wrote:
Karmine wrote:
Dude really going out of his way to troll this election.Can we get some candidate protection in here? I feel attacked on a personal level.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
- Treat everyone properly and keep it civil. You obviously have a right for free speech and expression of yourself, but you shall not use those rights to attack a candidate with slander or any other way to undermine someone's presidential campaign. Constructive criticism is welcome, however.
needs more swearingClevelandsMyBro wrote:
Welcome back you fucking assholes to the second phase of the 2024 OT Election.
Also shoutout outside influences fucking the election.
If you don't know what the fuck is going on, Please look at Phase One of the elction to get the general idea of what the fuck is going on.
its a community effort, already being doneZain Sugieres wrote:
i legit have no idea who you arw but if you say "we" of course ill reply with "you"Polyspora wrote:
me? tf do you think I am lolZain Sugieres wrote:
so you're telling me you're getting rid of separation of powers.Polyspora wrote:
thats what we doing now.ShinRun wrote:
If the GMT actually do listen to the OT!gov instead of being a separate entity.igorsprite wrote:
as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
still beta testing, a lot of struggle on pushing that is foreseen, but we're getting there.
so you can tell what are you going to do about necroposting
Guys vote me, I will held an orgy event in OT!
Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think of the denizen system?
This will be discussed by the government and definitely changed, as this has now have caused problems with our current generation, plans for what will be the appropriate change will be discussed by me, the parliament and other future members of the government such as the future vice president.
As i do have some plans for changes, such as a shorter waiting time but still giving it the fairness and more prestige of one receiving the denizenship title, i still want to discuss this with other members of the government to make the changes right and appropriate to the denizens as possible.
And perhaps a better description of the 10th gen too.
ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?
Sadly, i wasnt active around the time eblf became president, but from what i could gather, there really wasnt much that happened during eblf's term, due to his less activity in OT.
I dont really want to follow this, hence why i plan for there to be a new vice president role during my term, so that in ever the case i do recede in activity, the vice president can temporarily take control.
Discuss? Don't you have any solid plans for it? just like most of us here. Other than inactive candidates. Parliament is same for the past 2 year or i say past 2 president year. Clearly nothing happened or changed in there time. How are you expecting things to change with you becoming president?Hydreigon wrote:
Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think of the denizen system?
This will be discussed by the government and definitely changed, as this has now have caused problems with our current generation, plans for what will be the appropriate change will be discussed by me, the parliament and other future members of the government such as the future vice president.
As i do have some plans for changes, such as a shorter waiting time but still giving it the fairness and more prestige of one receiving the denizenship title, i still want to discuss this with other members of the government to make the changes right and appropriate to the denizens as possible.
And perhaps a better description of the 10th gen too.
So, you know there is a chance of you becoming inactive and the chances of it happening is not small, Since, thats why you are adding a whole new role. How will the candidate to get the role will be decided? By you? By election?. Why need a vice president role when there is a parliament with 4 members in it?Hydreigon wrote:
ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?
Sadly, i wasnt active around the time eblf became president, but from what i could gather, there really wasnt much that happened during eblf's term, due to his less activity in OT.
I dont really want to follow this, hence why i plan for there to be a new vice president role during my term, so that in ever the case i do recede in activity, the vice president can temporarily take control.
yeah hydreigon doesn't really solve anything, again, changing the denizen requirement is NOT a solution and just adding more roles wont fix innactivity at the higher levels
even i posted a possible solution to the problem hydreigon u suck
Oi chill chill, You are breaking rulesZain Sugieres wrote:
even i posted a possible solution to the problem hydreigon u suck
Topic Starter
all clear. i will accept your answers as long as its related to the questions.Zain Sugieres wrote:
My answers are related to the context and are not one letter/word answers - clearly not in violation of any rules.
if anything this is another case of unclear rules - something to watch out for whenever someone leads the elections again.
also "you" as in the candidates
Topic Starter
no new batch today. i'll upload new batches sporadically this week. candidates are expected to keep their eyes peeled for new batches.
also just a heads up, just like every other year, questioneers are allowed to ask questions to specific candidates.
also just a heads up, just like every other year, questioneers are allowed to ask questions to specific candidates.
thank you for clarifying.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
all clear. i will accept your answers as long as its related to the questions.Zain Sugieres wrote:
My answers are related to the context and are not one letter/word answers - clearly not in violation of any rules.
if anything this is another case of unclear rules - something to watch out for whenever someone leads the elections again.
also "you" as in the candidates
This mfClevelandsMyBro wrote:
no new batch today. i'll upload new batches sporadically this week. candidates are expected to keep their eyes peeled for new batches.
also just a heads up, just like every other year, questioneers are allowed to ask questions for specific candidates.
bump
Asian Warlord wrote:
This mfClevelandsMyBro wrote:
no new batch today. i'll upload new batches sporadically this week. candidates are expected to keep their eyes peeled for new batches.
also just a heads up, just like every other year, questioneers are allowed to ask questions for specific candidates.
Topic Starter
New batch dropping lads
since most of the questions are asked by Presidential candidate Patatitta, he'll have to answer questions specifically for them.
Patatitta wrote:
What do you think of current moderation?
[quote="Patatitta"]What do you think of current moderation? [/quote]
Patatitta wrote:
What is your opinion on chainposting?
[quote="Patatitta"]What is your opinion on chainposting? [/quote]
Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
[quote="Kobold84"]What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president? [/quote]
since most of the questions are asked by Presidential candidate Patatitta, he'll have to answer questions specifically for them.
questions for Patatitta
ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
In the event of an uprising to overthrow the OT!Government, how would you react?
[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]In the event of an uprising to overthrow the OT!Government, how would you react? [/quote]
ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
How do you feel between the relationship of newfags and oldfags?
[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]How do you feel between the relationship of newfags and oldfags? [/quote]
I may not fully grasp the question, but on the whole, I believe the current moderators are doing an excellent job of managing Off-Topic (OT!), especially the Kobold and Corne duo. A significant factor contributing to their success is the reduced frequency of low-quality posts in OT! these days. Stefan may require more time to adapt to the evolving meta, and it's understandable; he lived through the Lordship era.Patatitta wrote:
What do you think of current moderation?
I find it disagreeable. I fail to understand why others find it amusing. It's disrupting the consistency/coherence of the page. If you, as the reader, find it amusing, I regret to inform you that it isn't. It's becoming a nuisance for users who frequent OT! and those looking to engage in discussions on active threads or users who initiate a conversation. Now, everything is a mess, and many may not bother reading the replies due to the lack of effort in the posts.Patatitta wrote:
What is your opinion on chainposting?
my rant
it become even more difficult for a News Reporter. I read all the threads just to get accurate news T~T. You don't even realize how annoying it is to read 90 threads, sometimes 120 threads in a week and gather News from them. And thanks to you, The number of threads to read has doubled since now I have to check if the old threads already read by me, have gotten new conversation on them. I have to check the date of so many threads. Its not easy as reading few threads and taking out a random post for the news T~T. Sometimes I even have to write the thread till 3am just because someone chainposted, either few days before or at the time of posting the thread
Personally, I don't like it at all when a user receive silence in OT! but if I became President and its your 2-3rd time doing it on purpose. I will not go against a moderator to stop your silence.
It's not that I believe Blushing isn't a suitable candidate for Denizen. He's a great person to engage with, and his posts in OT! showcase quality. However, they are not even close to the requirements. I found the post he made on the denizen thread very disrespectful. I dont know if he is active on OT!Neus or not, certainly not here, which is what I value.Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
Everyone have worked for it and so will he(if he want denizen Title). When I become President, revoking his Denizen title be the 2nd thing I will do.
I would 100% revert it, I don't think setting a precedent where we completely ignore the rules and just add denizens based on how much the govs likes them a good ideaKobold84 wrote:
What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
Depends on the gov tbh, if I was the president, I would be a little bit sad, but if not, honestly, more power to you. In the thread I made before I made OT!eras I had a section where I said something along the lines of "Proposals don't work, if you want change, you have to make it yourself.", if the gov went innactive or did a shit job and there was a group of people going, we actually care about this and we're going to push for our version to be better. Where they just copy paste the gov system but actually make it work, that is honestly a good thing and something that should happen MORE often on OTClevelandsMyBro wrote:
In the event of an uprising to overthrow the OT!Government, how would you react?
I feel a lot of oldfags are very out of touch, ot was better back in my day type thing. Not to mention people like stefan, who are so out of touch that they really don't get a lot of the culture of OT nowadays and do actions such as locking and wastelandind when it really isn't needed/actively harmful to OTClevelandsMyBro wrote:
How do you feel between the relationship of newfags and oldfags?
For newfags, it's a weird topic to talk about, since most of them are children still, some people who aren't children do act in the same way as some of them lmao. Everything very happy flower positive vibes (* ^ ω ^), look at my hyperfixation, i'm part of this very specific fandom and no I refuse to ever venture outside my comfort zone and I will completely missrepresent the work of fiction i've based my entire personality around (like i'm sorry but I feel like a lot of y'all don't get omori)
what happens is that we have a faction of people that basically only wants to disrupt OT/want to go back to the old days, a faction of people that basically wants for everything to be as family friendly as possible, and neither of them actually have the willpower to try to make any change happen. I don't think the actual relationship is bad, I have yet to really see any conflict, but it's true that they are two very different groups of people
They're honestly fine and it doesn't seem to me like they're abusing their power except for some specific cases where I think the rules are too strict compared to old forums.Patatitta wrote:
What do you think of current moderation?
It's whatever as long as the person actually engages in the threads, if you post 5 posts in a row in a single thread it's also pretty weird but in the end it doesn't really matter, as long as you don't just chain post in multiple threads with single word/letter posts, it should be allowed.Patatitta wrote:
What is your opinion on chainposting?
I've already specified my opinion on the denizen system overall. It shouldn't exist.Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
Divine for OT president!Reyalp51 wrote:
everyone wants to kill the children thats based
👁️👁️Patatitta wrote:
For newfags, it's a weird topic to talk about, since most of them are children still, some people who aren't children do act in the same way as some of them lmao. Everything very happy flower positive vibes (* ^ ω ^), look at my hyperfixation, i'm part of this very specific fandom and no I refuse to ever venture outside my comfort zone and I will completely missrepresent the work of fiction i've based my entire personality around (like i'm sorry but I feel like a lot of y'all don't get omori)
I’ll make this quick and simple for yall to read
Right now I don’t see any problems with the moderator themselves. Ig the problem is that the punishment is too short. Because back then whenever I got punished it was for 3 days. Now when I saw a user get punished. It is for 80 mins with is just a slap on the wrist.Patatitta wrote:
What do you think of current moderation?
I have no problem with it. We need to have fun that’s allPatatitta wrote:
What is your opinion on chainposting?
No, I would keep him since there no problem with him being a denizen. Blushing is an active ot member.Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
Kinda hard to not have a biased opinion as I'm literally part of the moderation... I think it's fine right now, I don't see too much issues with it. My only complain is Stefan who sometimes locks threads without any reason... But I think it's because OT changed a lot since he was gone before going back. I think it's just about adapting to the new meta...Patatitta wrote:
What do you think of current moderation?
I'm relatively neutral to it. I don't think this is a problem as long it add something to the discussion. It's annoying when someone post just for the sake of posting, often saying irrelevant comments... And in Off-Topic in particular I don't think chainposting is a major issue right now...Patatitta wrote:
What is your opinion on chainposting?
As a vote, I would probably do a poll to decide what OT people actually wants, as the Blushing addition kinda divides the denizens at the moment, as it's clear the Blushing doesn't meets the current requirement at the moment. I think I'll listen to what the majority wants. But personally I'm divided about what to do: keep Blushing, maybe move them to gen 11, or simply remove them until they meet requirements...Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
y'all are talking about changing the deniznen requirement because that is clearly a problem according to you guys but are willing to let someone who just ignores those requirements stay?
During your time as president, if someone started producing propaganda that is targeted against you, how would you react?
there already exists so like not much I guessburgernfat wrote:
During your time as president, if someone started producing propaganda that is targeted against you, how would you react?
I mean what even is the requirement nowadays. Blushing has been posting on ot for years now.Patatitta wrote:
y'all are talking about changing the deniznen requirement because that is clearly a problem according to you guys but are willing to let someone who just ignores those requirements stay?
that is straight up false, 6 pages total in OTAsian Warlord wrote:
I mean what even is the requirement nowadays. Blushing has been posting on ot for years now.Patatitta wrote:
y'all are talking about changing the deniznen requirement because that is clearly a problem according to you guys but are willing to let someone who just ignores those requirements stay?
An important question for candidates.
How often do you shower?
How often do you shower?
You’re not telling me what the requirements is.
I think it was 8 months on continuous activity + an actual big contribution to OT. Also you can just like look it upAsian Warlord wrote:
You’re not telling me what the requirements is.
Daily/every other day if I don't go outsideKobold84 wrote:
An important question for candidates.
How often do you shower?
But at the same time removing him would be pointless because he is still going to get denizenship whenever he does hit the requirement. I’m not sure if gen 10 is gonna end soon if so, if he doesn’t meet the requirement this gen then just move him to the next gen like what corne saidPatatitta wrote:
I think it was 8 months on continuous activity + an actual big contribution to OT.Asian Warlord wrote:
You’re not telling me what the requirements is.
There have been a some of my old OT posts moved to GD keep in mindPatatitta wrote:
that is straight up false, 6 pages total in OTAsian Warlord wrote:
I mean what even is the requirement nowadays. Blushing has been posting on ot for years now.Patatitta wrote:
y'all are talking about changing the deniznen requirement because that is clearly a problem according to you guys but are willing to let someone who just ignores those requirements stay?
dont care my actions speak better for myselfburgernfat wrote:
During your time as president, if someone started producing propaganda that is targeted against you, how would you react?
im the only candidate with a different solution.Patatitta wrote:
y'all are talking about changing the deniznen requirement because that is clearly a problem according to you guys but are willing to let someone who just ignores those requirements stay?
everydayKobold84 wrote:
An important question for candidates.
How often do you shower?
grapes s tierZain Sugieres wrote:
even i posted a possible solution to the problem hydreigon u suck