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Hydreigon
274 posts
Joined February 2020
Hydreigon

igorsprite wrote:

as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?



I'd like to call it, the "Cleaning project." the plan is simple, the poster's post on the necroed thread will instead just be deleted and sent back in time to its original state before the necro, this has been done before in some occasions back then, without the need of using lethal locking forces or tactical nukes, this helps in not only preserving the thread back in time to its original state before the necro, but giving the front page a much cleaner look without it littered with necroed threads of all sorts, making accessing other thread easier making it all clean, just like the Philippines!*

*this is a joke, Philippines stinks, get me off this island-


As for the people that do necro posting, most first time or less excessive necro posters (or peeps who just do it for the meme's) won't receive punishments of sorts, as really, most cases tend to be the lurker people not being able to heed the warning, and of course, repeated or intentional necro posting will receive much harsher punishments, such as silences, and if... just maybe, to the point of very excessive necro posting behavior, exile.


It will be also evaluated that not all necroposting is all bad, such as threads that intentionally are necroed after periods of time or old game threads that the op want to be revived (or maybe other stuff like meme's and laughs) either way, these wont received harsh punishments stated above, so long as its evaluated properly by the mods, the government, and i, that it is a necessary necro.

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z0z wrote:

how are y'all convincing

Hear me out z0z, I have a plan, vote for me, and i will make the transport of import beef produces and the production of beef illegal.



No more will your animal friends suffer and be slowly cooked to death, now you can live and be free
Meanwhile the A-breaking lab, using my funding as president, will make a sort of beef substitute, one that may look, taste and smell like beef, but isnt beef made out of beef.
With our research we will soon be able to make fake animal meat replicas of all sorts, and will soon make the consumption of other eating living animals meat such as cats or pokemons, illegal!



so yeah
Hydreigon
274 posts
Joined February 2020
Hydreigon

Apraxye wrote:

Asian Warlord has my vote.
ay
ShinRun
266 posts
Joined November 2020
ShinRun

igorsprite wrote:

as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
Absolutely nothing. This responsibility falls upon that of the GMT and since not all the GMT on OT is under the jurisdiction of the OT!gov and the president, enforcing against necroposting is just all bark and no bite. If the GMT actually do listen to the OT!gov instead of being a separate entity, then we can talk about what action I will take againt necroposting.
Polyspora
473 posts
Joined September 2019
Polyspora

ShinRun wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
If the GMT actually do listen to the OT!gov instead of being a separate entity.
thats what we doing now.

still beta testing, a lot of struggle on pushing that is foreseen, but we're getting there.

so you can tell what are you going to do about necroposting
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Polyspora
473 posts
Joined September 2019
Polyspora
btw the president elected this year and future years will actually be able to make changes.

the government is whatever we want it to be, so uh take this one seriously ok guys?
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Corne2Plum3
Global Moderator
1,814 posts
Joined November 2019
Corne2Plum3

z0z wrote:

how are y'all convincing
I'm very fluffy :3
Reyalp51
967 posts
Joined April 2021
Reyalp51

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

z0z wrote:

how are y'all convincing
I'm very fluffy :3
He spitting facts
Patatitta
1,297 posts
Joined February 2020
Patatitta

igorsprite wrote:

as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
I think you were supposed to dm the questions for them to actually count as a batch, but yeah, I don't think real change is needed rn, just, lock whenever gets necro and if they get REALLY fucking annoying just exile
Kobold84
Global Moderator
1,311 posts
Joined September 2013
Kobold84

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
I think you were supposed to dm the questions for them to actually count as a batch, but yeah, I don't think real change is needed rn, just, lock whenever gets necro and if they get REALLY fucking annoying just exile
Only denizens can DM questions, and then candidates HAVE TO answer (some of) them. Dwellers have to ask questions themselves and it's safe to ignore them.
Patatitta
1,297 posts
Joined February 2020
Patatitta

Kobold84 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
I think you were supposed to dm the questions for them to actually count as a batch, but yeah, I don't think real change is needed rn, just, lock whenever gets necro and if they get REALLY fucking annoying just exile
Only denizens can DM questions, and then candidates HAVE TO answer (some of) them. Dwellers have to ask questions themselves and it's safe to ignore them.
oh that's stupid, I would let anyone submit questions lmao
Hydreigon
274 posts
Joined February 2020
Hydreigon
what's 9 + 10?
Patatitta
1,297 posts
Joined February 2020
Patatitta

Hydreigon wrote:

what's 9 + 10?
21
Manishh
2,093 posts
Joined October 2020
Manishh

Patatitta wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
I think you were supposed to dm the questions for them to actually count as a batch, but yeah, I don't think real change is needed rn, just, lock whenever gets necro and if they get REALLY fucking annoying just exile
Only denizens can DM questions, and then candidates HAVE TO answer (some of) them. Dwellers have to ask questions themselves and it's safe to ignore them.
oh that's stupid, I would let anyone submit questions lmao
I think people are scared too much of 'random dude out of OT!'. Thats why denizen requirement is there.
Patatitta
1,297 posts
Joined February 2020
Patatitta

Manishh wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
I think you were supposed to dm the questions for them to actually count as a batch, but yeah, I don't think real change is needed rn, just, lock whenever gets necro and if they get REALLY fucking annoying just exile
Only denizens can DM questions, and then candidates HAVE TO answer (some of) them. Dwellers have to ask questions themselves and it's safe to ignore them.
oh that's stupid, I would let anyone submit questions lmao
I think people are scared too much of 'random dude out of OT!'. Thats why denizen requirement is there.
I can understand that for votes, but for questions?, that's kinda weird
Manishh
2,093 posts
Joined October 2020
Manishh

Patatitta wrote:

Manishh wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
I think you were supposed to dm the questions for them to actually count as a batch, but yeah, I don't think real change is needed rn, just, lock whenever gets necro and if they get REALLY fucking annoying just exile
Only denizens can DM questions, and then candidates HAVE TO answer (some of) them. Dwellers have to ask questions themselves and it's safe to ignore them.
oh that's stupid, I would let anyone submit questions lmao
I think people are scared too much of 'random dude out of OT!'. Thats why denizen requirement is there.
I can understand that for votes, but for questions?, that's kinda weird
I guess the thinking is probably, If its for the votes, why not for the questions as well

Zain Sugieres
579 posts
Joined January 2013
Zain Sugieres

Polyspora wrote:

ShinRun wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
If the GMT actually do listen to the OT!gov instead of being a separate entity.
thats what we doing now.

still beta testing, a lot of struggle on pushing that is foreseen, but we're getting there.

so you can tell what are you going to do about necroposting
so you're telling me you're getting rid of separation of powers.
Polyspora
473 posts
Joined September 2019
Polyspora

Zain Sugieres wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

ShinRun wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
If the GMT actually do listen to the OT!gov instead of being a separate entity.
thats what we doing now.

still beta testing, a lot of struggle on pushing that is foreseen, but we're getting there.

so you can tell what are you going to do about necroposting
so you're telling me you're getting rid of separation of powers.
me? tf do you think I am lol
Zain Sugieres
579 posts
Joined January 2013
Zain Sugieres

Polyspora wrote:

Zain Sugieres wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

ShinRun wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
If the GMT actually do listen to the OT!gov instead of being a separate entity.
thats what we doing now.

still beta testing, a lot of struggle on pushing that is foreseen, but we're getting there.

so you can tell what are you going to do about necroposting
so you're telling me you're getting rid of separation of powers.
me? tf do you think I am lol
i legit have no idea who you arw but if you say "we" of course ill reply with "you"
ClevelandsMyBro
853 posts
Joined April 2018
Topic Starter
ClevelandsMyBro
good shit looks like most people showed up. anyways lets jump straight into the first batch. 2 easy questions to warm up innit.

Kobold84 wrote:

What do you think of the denizen system?
[quote="Kobold84"]What do you think of the denizen system?[/quote]

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?
[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?[/quote]
Patatitta
1,297 posts
Joined February 2020
Patatitta

Kobold84 wrote:

What do you think of the denizen system?
Short answer: it's bad, it doesn't represent anything, we aren't even following the rules anymore, there are no use cases, it creates more drama than it does good, and no one even agrees what a denizen is.

Long answer: read the thread I did before making ot!eras

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?
cool guy but he didn't do shit, they just did the bare minimum of trying to keep the denizens coming but even that has gone badly, with people just being added now for the elections, having people who deserve it not have it yet, and even making mistakes like the one they did with blushing
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Asian Warlord
33 posts
Joined November 2020
Asian Warlord

Kobold84 wrote:

What do you think of the denizen system?
My honest opinion is that there is nothing wrong with it. I don't know what kind of special powers you want. It is perfect what it is right now.


ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?
Can't blame the dude, there is nothing you can do.
Manishh
2,093 posts
Joined October 2020
Manishh

Kobold84 wrote:

What do you think of the denizen system?
Denizenship itself isnt a bad idea. I see it more as a Hall of fame and not a title which gives power to people.
I think people are overthinking about it 'what does the title mean' or similar questions. The Problem with denizen imo is that first not every denizen has been chosen by the same rule. Personally I dont see the requirement of 8month of activity and 20pages as bad. I think its a worth requirement since You would be on the list for forever unlike in OT! eras which have short requirement but you will be not there in future eras if you are inactive.

As a president I will redo all the denizen with the requirement of 6months of activity and 10pages of post count. I think its a low amount but many want it to be this lower so be it. "An achievement of some sort" is a requirement which I will remove since I value the time you have spend with the community more than what quality threads you have made. And not to mention what is quality is very biased thing and will lead to problem in future.


ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?
As a person I think he is a great guy but as a President, he did a very bad job. In his time, no parliament election happened which made the already dead parliament to become more dead. I dont hate ymir and poly but I think it was a very bad idea to not choose an election to fix the dead parliament. The government has done nothing other than electing denizen and not even being transparent with the process. Not to mention that they didnt even change the blushing mistake and chose to run away from the problem.
Patatitta
1,297 posts
Joined February 2020
Patatitta
I disagere with you manishh, if the problem is that not every denizen was chosen under the same rule, how would changing the rule AGAIN help?

also, in eras you don't lose your rank, I just replaced gens with years and that's about it


edit: also, to make clear, I don't plan on making eras a staple of OT, I get that denizen has all the reputation and stuf and I would work to try to solve that first
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Zain Sugieres
579 posts
Joined January 2013
Zain Sugieres

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

good shit looks like most people showed up. anyways lets jump straight into the first batch. 2 easy questions to warm up innit.

Kobold84 wrote:

What do you think of the denizen system?
[quote="Kobold84"]What do you think of the denizen system?[/quote]

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?
[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?[/quote]
the denizen system is too much official bureaucratic bs and we should go back to the old days of just calling people newfags

did he even do anything Lol
Manishh
2,093 posts
Joined October 2020
Manishh

Patatitta wrote:

I disagere with you manishh, if the problem is that not every denizen was chosen under the same rule, how would changing the rule AGAIN help?
I dont really wanna change the rule either. But I wanna get rid of the impatient people who are like, "8months is too long and 20 pages of post is just post farm". I want to make the requirement simple and a requirement which dont change again.

Patatitta wrote:

also, in eras you don't lose your rank, I just replaced gens with years and that's about it
My bad here, I had a bit confusion about it. But I feel like OT! eras is more like knowing who been the most active guy all around the years/eras, since Its not very hard to get into OT!Eras. Thats why for me a person getting in a OT! era is not as impressive as a person being in multiple eras
Manishh
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Joined October 2020
Manishh

Zain Sugieres wrote:

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

good shit looks like most people showed up. anyways lets jump straight into the first batch. 2 easy questions to warm up innit.

Kobold84 wrote:

What do you think of the denizen system?
[quote="Kobold84"]What do you think of the denizen system?[/quote]

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?
[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?[/quote]
the denizen system is too much official bureaucratic bs and we should go back to the old days of just calling people newfags

did he even do anything Lol
Did you even read the rules? your answer are most likely be seen as unanswered. I dont know why I am helping you but I guess why not
Patatitta
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Patatitta

Manishh wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I disagere with you manishh, if the problem is that not every denizen was chosen under the same rule, how would changing the rule AGAIN help?
I dont really wanna change the rule either. But I wanna get rid of the impatient people who are like, "8months is too long and 20 pages of post is just post farm". I want to make the requirement simple and a requirement which dont change again.
that's not the problem tho, the problem is denizens being overdue and not recieving denizen
Manishh
2,093 posts
Joined October 2020
Manishh

Patatitta wrote:

Manishh wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I disagere with you manishh, if the problem is that not every denizen was chosen under the same rule, how would changing the rule AGAIN help?
I dont really wanna change the rule either. But I wanna get rid of the impatient people who are like, "8months is too long and 20 pages of post is just post farm". I want to make the requirement simple and a requirement which dont change again.
that's not the problem tho, the problem is denizens being overdue and not recieving denizen
Yeah I know that, Thats why I want to make the selection more transparent
Patatitta
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Patatitta

Manishh wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Manishh wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I disagere with you manishh, if the problem is that not every denizen was chosen under the same rule, how would changing the rule AGAIN help?
I dont really wanna change the rule either. But I wanna get rid of the impatient people who are like, "8months is too long and 20 pages of post is just post farm". I want to make the requirement simple and a requirement which dont change again.
that's not the problem tho, the problem is denizens being overdue and not recieving denizen
Yeah I know that, Thats why I want to make the selection more transparent
would transparency fix the problem of inactivity at the higher level tho?
Manishh
2,093 posts
Joined October 2020
Manishh

Patatitta wrote:

Manishh wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Manishh wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I disagere with you manishh, if the problem is that not every denizen was chosen under the same rule, how would changing the rule AGAIN help?
I dont really wanna change the rule either. But I wanna get rid of the impatient people who are like, "8months is too long and 20 pages of post is just post farm". I want to make the requirement simple and a requirement which dont change again.
that's not the problem tho, the problem is denizens being overdue and not recieving denizen
Yeah I know that, Thats why I want to make the selection more transparent
would transparency fix the problem of inactivity at the higher level tho?
Definitely. Right now the only thing we have is there words. "we make a list of future denizens" which either they manage it very badly or it does not even exist. By it being transparent, they will receive critism if it is being badly manage
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Patatitta
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Joined February 2020
Patatitta

Manishh wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Manishh wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Manishh wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I disagere with you manishh, if the problem is that not every denizen was chosen under the same rule, how would changing the rule AGAIN help?
I dont really wanna change the rule either. But I wanna get rid of the impatient people who are like, "8months is too long and 20 pages of post is just post farm". I want to make the requirement simple and a requirement which dont change again.
that's not the problem tho, the problem is denizens being overdue and not recieving denizen
Yeah I know that, Thats why I want to make the selection more transparent
would transparency fix the problem of inactivity at the higher level tho?
Definitely. Right now the only thing we have is there words. "we make a list of future denizens" which either they manage it very badly or it does not even exist
I mean, the list may still not exist, you just avoid them from lying, but that wouldn't make them do something, you would need to reform the gov to actually get change to happen
Corne2Plum3
Global Moderator
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Corne2Plum3

Kobold84 wrote:

What do you think of the denizen system?
It's outdated, leaving a large part of the current active user behind. Imo the requirements are too high and too long, it's not longer reflecting the active userbase of OT. It has to be improved for sure, to it actually reflects active users.


ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?
Sorry eblf2013 to be harsh, but to be honest, he didn't do too much, it was like he wasn't here. There was clearly a lack of activity and actions from him, to a point being sometimes secondary at taking some decision, and members of the council doing much more than what he did. And this rule added mid-elections to remove "inactive" candidate while they already registered, was just wrong imo, both in the idea and the execution. I can understand it was made to avoid inactive users, but this rule should have been added before the elections, and not during the elections. And the fact this was transmitted by someone else and not the president himself is another proof of eblf2013's lack of activity, in addition of being an unfair decision.

Overall, a president that mostly showed a lack of activity and actions, and thus for almost the entire year.
Patatitta
1,297 posts
Joined February 2020
Patatitta

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

What do you think of the denizen system?
It's outdated, leaving a large part of the current active user behind. Imo the requirements are too high and too long, it's not longer reflecting the active userbase of OT. It has to be improved for sure, to it actually reflects active users.
As I said to manishh, the requirements aren't the problem. The requirement for denizen has changed like 5 times over the years and we still have the exact same problem, it's something more fundamental
Manishh
2,093 posts
Joined October 2020
Manishh

Patatitta wrote:

Manishh wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Manishh wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Manishh wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I disagere with you manishh, if the problem is that not every denizen was chosen under the same rule, how would changing the rule AGAIN help?
I dont really wanna change the rule either. But I wanna get rid of the impatient people who are like, "8months is too long and 20 pages of post is just post farm". I want to make the requirement simple and a requirement which dont change again.
that's not the problem tho, the problem is denizens being overdue and not recieving denizen
Yeah I know that, Thats why I want to make the selection more transparent
would transparency fix the problem of inactivity at the higher level tho?
Definitely. Right now the only thing we have is there words. "we make a list of future denizens" which either they manage it very badly or it does not even exist
I mean, the list may still not exist, you just avoid them from lying, but that wouldn't make them do something, you would need to reform the gov to actually get change to happen
Yeah and thats in the list of what i will do, Did i forgot to mention it in the registration phase?

Okay i forgot to add it while making my insane speech. "To stop the ever weakening strength of government" in the line I meant to recreate the gov or you may say as reform
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Patatitta
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Joined February 2020
Patatitta

Manishh wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Manishh wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Manishh wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Manishh wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I disagere with you manishh, if the problem is that not every denizen was chosen under the same rule, how would changing the rule AGAIN help?
I dont really wanna change the rule either. But I wanna get rid of the impatient people who are like, "8months is too long and 20 pages of post is just post farm". I want to make the requirement simple and a requirement which dont change again.
that's not the problem tho, the problem is denizens being overdue and not recieving denizen
Yeah I know that, Thats why I want to make the selection more transparent
would transparency fix the problem of inactivity at the higher level tho?
Definitely. Right now the only thing we have is there words. "we make a list of future denizens" which either they manage it very badly or it does not even exist
I mean, the list may still not exist, you just avoid them from lying, but that wouldn't make them do something, you would need to reform the gov to actually get change to happen
Yeah and thats in the list of what i will do, Did i forgot to mention it in the registration phase?
idk tbh I haven't really checked, was working exclusively with the information you gave in this thread
Manishh
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Manishh
I did a edit ^
Patatitta
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Patatitta

Manishh wrote:

I did a edit ^
yeah that's fair
igorsprite
623 posts
Joined September 2015
igorsprite
this question goes to patatitta: do you have a foot fetish?
Patatitta
1,297 posts
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Patatitta

igorsprite wrote:

this question goes to patatitta: do you have a foot fetish?
I don't
Manishh
2,093 posts
Joined October 2020
Manishh

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?
Sorry eblf2013 to be harsh, but to be honest, he didn't do too much, it was like he wasn't here. There was clearly a lack of activity and actions from him, to a point being sometimes secondary at taking some decision, and members of the council doing much more than what he did. And this rule added mid-elections to remove "inactive" candidate while they already registered, was just wrong imo, both in the idea and the execution. I can understand it was made to avoid inactive users, but this rule should have been added before the elections, and not during the elections. And the fact this was transmitted by someone else and not the president himself is another proof of eblf2013's lack of activity, in addition of being an unfair decision.

Overall, a president that mostly showed a lack of activity and actions, and thus for almost the entire year.
Yeah, I dont think its only him, but the whole parliament member thinking is similar. Let the problem happen first, then we will fix it
igorsprite
623 posts
Joined September 2015
igorsprite

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

this question goes to patatitta: do you have a foot fetish?
I don't
Asian Warlord
33 posts
Joined November 2020
Asian Warlord

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

this question goes to patatitta: do you have a foot fetish?
I don't
Zain Sugieres
579 posts
Joined January 2013
Zain Sugieres

Manishh wrote:

Zain Sugieres wrote:

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

good shit looks like most people showed up. anyways lets jump straight into the first batch. 2 easy questions to warm up innit.

Kobold84 wrote:

What do you think of the denizen system?
[quote="Kobold84"]What do you think of the denizen system?[/quote]

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?
[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?[/quote]
the denizen system is too much official bureaucratic bs and we should go back to the old days of just calling people newfags

did he even do anything Lol
Did you even read the rules? your answer are most likely be seen as unanswered. I dont know why I am helping you but I guess why not
i have specified my stance clearly, 1st question i have specified my view on the denizen clearly and my solution to it, in the 2nd question its pretty obvious the guy didnt do anything as president and as such my opinion of him is negative - thats pretty clear from my answer and if you dont see that then sorry im not going to write a 500 word essay on why i find his inactivity bad

questions that only ask about one's opinion don't require a lengthy answer, i could simply say "bad" but that one would be clearly against the rules - one word answers are not allowed.
Manishh
2,093 posts
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Manishh
You do you
Zain Sugieres
579 posts
Joined January 2013
Zain Sugieres
My answers are related to the context and are not one letter/word answers - clearly not in violation of any rules.

if anything this is another case of unclear rules - something to watch out for whenever someone leads the elections again.
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Karmine
954 posts
Joined November 2015
Karmine
Dude really going out of his way to troll this election.
Zain Sugieres
579 posts
Joined January 2013
Zain Sugieres

Karmine wrote:

Dude really going out of his way to troll this election.

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

  1. Treat everyone properly and keep it civil. You obviously have a right for free speech and expression of yourself, but you shall not use those rights to attack a candidate with slander or any other way to undermine someone's presidential campaign. Constructive criticism is welcome, however.
Can we get some candidate protection in here? I feel attacked on a personal level.
Manishh
2,093 posts
Joined October 2020
Manishh

Zain Sugieres wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Dude really going out of his way to troll this election.

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

  1. Treat everyone properly and keep it civil. You obviously have a right for free speech and expression of yourself, but you shall not use those rights to attack a candidate with slander or any other way to undermine someone's presidential campaign. Constructive criticism is welcome, however.
Can we get some candidate protection in here? I feel attacked on a personal level.
lmao you really think the op care about it?


Oi karmine stop bullying this dude
Corne2Plum3
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69th post
Jun Maeda
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Jun Maeda
Wait how the fuck i've missed this lmao, i haven't seen this thread until now...
Manishh
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Manishh

Jun Maeda wrote:

Wait how the fuck i've missed this lmao, i haven't seen this thread until now...
Damn! You are going to regret this mistake for whole year...
Karmine
954 posts
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Karmine

Zain Sugieres wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Dude really going out of his way to troll this election.

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

  1. Treat everyone properly and keep it civil. You obviously have a right for free speech and expression of yourself, but you shall not use those rights to attack a candidate with slander or any other way to undermine someone's presidential campaign. Constructive criticism is welcome, however.
Can we get some candidate protection in here? I feel attacked on a personal level.
Stating a fact is an attack? Damn.
Zain Sugieres
579 posts
Joined January 2013
Zain Sugieres

Karmine wrote:

Zain Sugieres wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Dude really going out of his way to troll this election.

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

  1. Treat everyone properly and keep it civil. You obviously have a right for free speech and expression of yourself, but you shall not use those rights to attack a candidate with slander or any other way to undermine someone's presidential campaign. Constructive criticism is welcome, however.
Can we get some candidate protection in here? I feel attacked on a personal level.
Stating a fact is an attack? Damn.
keep projecting.
Serraionga
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Joined November 2014
Serraionga

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

Welcome back you fucking assholes to the second phase of the 2024 OT Election.
Also shoutout outside influences fucking the election.
If you don't know what the fuck is going on, Please look at Phase One of the elction to get the general idea of what the fuck is going on.
needs more swearing
Polyspora
473 posts
Joined September 2019
Polyspora

Zain Sugieres wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

Zain Sugieres wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

ShinRun wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
If the GMT actually do listen to the OT!gov instead of being a separate entity.
thats what we doing now.

still beta testing, a lot of struggle on pushing that is foreseen, but we're getting there.

so you can tell what are you going to do about necroposting
so you're telling me you're getting rid of separation of powers.
me? tf do you think I am lol
i legit have no idea who you arw but if you say "we" of course ill reply with "you"
its a community effort, already being done
Manishh
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Manishh
Guys vote me, I will held an orgy event in OT!
Hydreigon
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Hydreigon

Kobold84 wrote:

What do you think of the denizen system?



This will be discussed by the government and definitely changed, as this has now have caused problems with our current generation, plans for what will be the appropriate change will be discussed by me, the parliament and other future members of the government such as the future vice president.
As i do have some plans for changes, such as a shorter waiting time but still giving it the fairness and more prestige of one receiving the denizenship title, i still want to discuss this with other members of the government to make the changes right and appropriate to the denizens as possible.
And perhaps a better description of the 10th gen too.


ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?



Sadly, i wasnt active around the time eblf became president, but from what i could gather, there really wasnt much that happened during eblf's term, due to his less activity in OT.
I dont really want to follow this, hence why i plan for there to be a new vice president role during my term, so that in ever the case i do recede in activity, the vice president can temporarily take control.

Manishh
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Manishh

Hydreigon wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

What do you think of the denizen system?



This will be discussed by the government and definitely changed, as this has now have caused problems with our current generation, plans for what will be the appropriate change will be discussed by me, the parliament and other future members of the government such as the future vice president.
As i do have some plans for changes, such as a shorter waiting time but still giving it the fairness and more prestige of one receiving the denizenship title, i still want to discuss this with other members of the government to make the changes right and appropriate to the denizens as possible.
And perhaps a better description of the 10th gen too.

Discuss? Don't you have any solid plans for it? just like most of us here. Other than inactive candidates. Parliament is same for the past 2 year or i say past 2 president year. Clearly nothing happened or changed in there time. How are you expecting things to change with you becoming president?


Hydreigon wrote:

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?



Sadly, i wasnt active around the time eblf became president, but from what i could gather, there really wasnt much that happened during eblf's term, due to his less activity in OT.
I dont really want to follow this, hence why i plan for there to be a new vice president role during my term, so that in ever the case i do recede in activity, the vice president can temporarily take control.

So, you know there is a chance of you becoming inactive and the chances of it happening is not small, Since, thats why you are adding a whole new role. How will the candidate to get the role will be decided? By you? By election?. Why need a vice president role when there is a parliament with 4 members in it?
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Patatitta
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Patatitta
yeah hydreigon doesn't really solve anything, again, changing the denizen requirement is NOT a solution and just adding more roles wont fix innactivity at the higher levels
Zain Sugieres
579 posts
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Zain Sugieres
even i posted a possible solution to the problem hydreigon u suck
Polyspora
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Polyspora
hydreigon is cute
Manishh
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Manishh

Zain Sugieres wrote:

even i posted a possible solution to the problem hydreigon u suck
Oi chill chill, You are breaking rules
ClevelandsMyBro
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ClevelandsMyBro

Zain Sugieres wrote:

My answers are related to the context and are not one letter/word answers - clearly not in violation of any rules.

if anything this is another case of unclear rules - something to watch out for whenever someone leads the elections again.
all clear. i will accept your answers as long as its related to the questions.

also "you" as in the candidates
ClevelandsMyBro
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ClevelandsMyBro
no new batch today. i'll upload new batches sporadically this week. candidates are expected to keep their eyes peeled for new batches.

also just a heads up, just like every other year, questioneers are allowed to ask questions to specific candidates.
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Zain Sugieres
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Zain Sugieres

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

Zain Sugieres wrote:

My answers are related to the context and are not one letter/word answers - clearly not in violation of any rules.

if anything this is another case of unclear rules - something to watch out for whenever someone leads the elections again.
all clear. i will accept your answers as long as its related to the questions.

also "you" as in the candidates
thank you for clarifying.
Asian Warlord
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Asian Warlord

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

no new batch today. i'll upload new batches sporadically this week. candidates are expected to keep their eyes peeled for new batches.

also just a heads up, just like every other year, questioneers are allowed to ask questions for specific candidates.
This mf
Corne2Plum3
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Corne2Plum3
bump
Manishh
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Manishh

Asian Warlord wrote:

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

no new batch today. i'll upload new batches sporadically this week. candidates are expected to keep their eyes peeled for new batches.

also just a heads up, just like every other year, questioneers are allowed to ask questions for specific candidates.
This mf
ClevelandsMyBro
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ClevelandsMyBro
New batch dropping lads

Patatitta wrote:

What do you think of current moderation?
[quote="Patatitta"]What do you think of current moderation?
[/quote]

Patatitta wrote:

What is your opinion on chainposting?
[quote="Patatitta"]What is your opinion on chainposting?
[/quote]

Kobold84 wrote:

What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
[quote="Kobold84"]What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
[/quote]

since most of the questions are asked by Presidential candidate Patatitta, he'll have to answer questions specifically for them.

questions for Patatitta

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

In the event of an uprising to overthrow the OT!Government, how would you react?
[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]In the event of an uprising to overthrow the OT!Government, how would you react?
[/quote]

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

How do you feel between the relationship of newfags and oldfags?
[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]How do you feel between the relationship of newfags and oldfags?
[/quote]
Manishh
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Manishh

Patatitta wrote:

What do you think of current moderation?
I may not fully grasp the question, but on the whole, I believe the current moderators are doing an excellent job of managing Off-Topic (OT!), especially the Kobold and Corne duo. A significant factor contributing to their success is the reduced frequency of low-quality posts in OT! these days. Stefan may require more time to adapt to the evolving meta, and it's understandable; he lived through the Lordship era.


Patatitta wrote:

What is your opinion on chainposting?
I find it disagreeable. I fail to understand why others find it amusing. It's disrupting the consistency/coherence of the page. If you, as the reader, find it amusing, I regret to inform you that it isn't. It's becoming a nuisance for users who frequent OT! and those looking to engage in discussions on active threads or users who initiate a conversation. Now, everything is a mess, and many may not bother reading the replies due to the lack of effort in the posts.
my rant
it become even more difficult for a News Reporter. I read all the threads just to get accurate news T~T. You don't even realize how annoying it is to read 90 threads, sometimes 120 threads in a week and gather News from them. And thanks to you, The number of threads to read has doubled since now I have to check if the old threads already read by me, have gotten new conversation on them. I have to check the date of so many threads. Its not easy as reading few threads and taking out a random post for the news T~T. Sometimes I even have to write the thread till 3am just because someone chainposted, either few days before or at the time of posting the thread

Personally, I don't like it at all when a user receive silence in OT! but if I became President and its your 2-3rd time doing it on purpose. I will not go against a moderator to stop your silence.


Kobold84 wrote:

What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
It's not that I believe Blushing isn't a suitable candidate for Denizen. He's a great person to engage with, and his posts in OT! showcase quality. However, they are not even close to the requirements. I found the post he made on the denizen thread very disrespectful. I dont know if he is active on OT!Neus or not, certainly not here, which is what I value.

Everyone have worked for it and so will he(if he want denizen Title). When I become President, revoking his Denizen title be the 2nd thing I will do.
Patatitta
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Patatitta

Kobold84 wrote:

What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
I would 100% revert it, I don't think setting a precedent where we completely ignore the rules and just add denizens based on how much the govs likes them a good idea

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

In the event of an uprising to overthrow the OT!Government, how would you react?
Depends on the gov tbh, if I was the president, I would be a little bit sad, but if not, honestly, more power to you. In the thread I made before I made OT!eras I had a section where I said something along the lines of "Proposals don't work, if you want change, you have to make it yourself.", if the gov went innactive or did a shit job and there was a group of people going, we actually care about this and we're going to push for our version to be better. Where they just copy paste the gov system but actually make it work, that is honestly a good thing and something that should happen MORE often on OT

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

How do you feel between the relationship of newfags and oldfags?
I feel a lot of oldfags are very out of touch, ot was better back in my day type thing. Not to mention people like stefan, who are so out of touch that they really don't get a lot of the culture of OT nowadays and do actions such as locking and wastelandind when it really isn't needed/actively harmful to OT

For newfags, it's a weird topic to talk about, since most of them are children still, some people who aren't children do act in the same way as some of them lmao. Everything very happy flower positive vibes (* ^ ω ^), look at my hyperfixation, i'm part of this very specific fandom and no I refuse to ever venture outside my comfort zone and I will completely missrepresent the work of fiction i've based my entire personality around (like i'm sorry but I feel like a lot of y'all don't get omori)

what happens is that we have a faction of people that basically only wants to disrupt OT/want to go back to the old days, a faction of people that basically wants for everything to be as family friendly as possible, and neither of them actually have the willpower to try to make any change happen. I don't think the actual relationship is bad, I have yet to really see any conflict, but it's true that they are two very different groups of people
Zain Sugieres
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Zain Sugieres

Patatitta wrote:

What do you think of current moderation?
They're honestly fine and it doesn't seem to me like they're abusing their power except for some specific cases where I think the rules are too strict compared to old forums.

Patatitta wrote:

What is your opinion on chainposting?
It's whatever as long as the person actually engages in the threads, if you post 5 posts in a row in a single thread it's also pretty weird but in the end it doesn't really matter, as long as you don't just chain post in multiple threads with single word/letter posts, it should be allowed.

Kobold84 wrote:

What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
I've already specified my opinion on the denizen system overall. It shouldn't exist.
Reyalp51
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everyone wants to kill the children thats based
Karmine
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Karmine

Reyalp51 wrote:

everyone wants to kill the children thats based
Divine for OT president!
igorsprite
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igorsprite

Patatitta wrote:

For newfags, it's a weird topic to talk about, since most of them are children still, some people who aren't children do act in the same way as some of them lmao. Everything very happy flower positive vibes (* ^ ω ^), look at my hyperfixation, i'm part of this very specific fandom and no I refuse to ever venture outside my comfort zone and I will completely missrepresent the work of fiction i've based my entire personality around (like i'm sorry but I feel like a lot of y'all don't get omori)
👁️👁️
Asian Warlord
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Asian Warlord
I’ll make this quick and simple for yall to read

Patatitta wrote:

What do you think of current moderation?
Right now I don’t see any problems with the moderator themselves. Ig the problem is that the punishment is too short. Because back then whenever I got punished it was for 3 days. Now when I saw a user get punished. It is for 80 mins with is just a slap on the wrist.

Patatitta wrote:

What is your opinion on chainposting?
I have no problem with it. We need to have fun that’s all

Kobold84 wrote:

What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
No, I would keep him since there no problem with him being a denizen. Blushing is an active ot member.
Corne2Plum3
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Corne2Plum3

Patatitta wrote:

What do you think of current moderation?
Kinda hard to not have a biased opinion as I'm literally part of the moderation... I think it's fine right now, I don't see too much issues with it. My only complain is Stefan who sometimes locks threads without any reason... But I think it's because OT changed a lot since he was gone before going back. I think it's just about adapting to the new meta...


Patatitta wrote:

What is your opinion on chainposting?
I'm relatively neutral to it. I don't think this is a problem as long it add something to the discussion. It's annoying when someone post just for the sake of posting, often saying irrelevant comments... And in Off-Topic in particular I don't think chainposting is a major issue right now...


Kobold84 wrote:

What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
As a vote, I would probably do a poll to decide what OT people actually wants, as the Blushing addition kinda divides the denizens at the moment, as it's clear the Blushing doesn't meets the current requirement at the moment. I think I'll listen to what the majority wants. But personally I'm divided about what to do: keep Blushing, maybe move them to gen 11, or simply remove them until they meet requirements...
Patatitta
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Patatitta
y'all are talking about changing the deniznen requirement because that is clearly a problem according to you guys but are willing to let someone who just ignores those requirements stay?
burgernfat
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burgernfat
During your time as president, if someone started producing propaganda that is targeted against you, how would you react?
Patatitta
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Patatitta

burgernfat wrote:

During your time as president, if someone started producing propaganda that is targeted against you, how would you react?
there already exists so like not much I guess
Asian Warlord
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Asian Warlord

Patatitta wrote:

y'all are talking about changing the deniznen requirement because that is clearly a problem according to you guys but are willing to let someone who just ignores those requirements stay?
I mean what even is the requirement nowadays. Blushing has been posting on ot for years now.
Patatitta
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Patatitta

Asian Warlord wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

y'all are talking about changing the deniznen requirement because that is clearly a problem according to you guys but are willing to let someone who just ignores those requirements stay?
I mean what even is the requirement nowadays. Blushing has been posting on ot for years now.
that is straight up false, 6 pages total in OT

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Kobold84
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Kobold84
An important question for candidates.
How often do you shower?
Asian Warlord
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Asian Warlord
You’re not telling me what the requirements is.
Patatitta
1,297 posts
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Patatitta

Asian Warlord wrote:

You’re not telling me what the requirements is.
I think it was 8 months on continuous activity + an actual big contribution to OT. Also you can just like look it up

Kobold84 wrote:

An important question for candidates.
How often do you shower?
Daily/every other day if I don't go outside
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Asian Warlord
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Asian Warlord

Patatitta wrote:

Asian Warlord wrote:

You’re not telling me what the requirements is.
I think it was 8 months on continuous activity + an actual big contribution to OT.
But at the same time removing him would be pointless because he is still going to get denizenship whenever he does hit the requirement. I’m not sure if gen 10 is gonna end soon if so, if he doesn’t meet the requirement this gen then just move him to the next gen like what corne said
Blushing
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Blushing

Patatitta wrote:

Asian Warlord wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

y'all are talking about changing the deniznen requirement because that is clearly a problem according to you guys but are willing to let someone who just ignores those requirements stay?
I mean what even is the requirement nowadays. Blushing has been posting on ot for years now.
that is straight up false, 6 pages total in OT

There have been a some of my old OT posts moved to GD keep in mind
Zain Sugieres
579 posts
Joined January 2013
Zain Sugieres

burgernfat wrote:

During your time as president, if someone started producing propaganda that is targeted against you, how would you react?
dont care my actions speak better for myself


Patatitta wrote:

y'all are talking about changing the deniznen requirement because that is clearly a problem according to you guys but are willing to let someone who just ignores those requirements stay?
im the only candidate with a different solution.


Kobold84 wrote:

An important question for candidates.
How often do you shower?
everyday
Hydreigon
274 posts
Joined February 2020
Hydreigon

Zain Sugieres wrote:

even i posted a possible solution to the problem hydreigon u suck
grapes s tier
Patatitta
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Joined February 2020
Patatitta

Asian Warlord wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Asian Warlord wrote:

You’re not telling me what the requirements is.
I think it was 8 months on continuous activity + an actual big contribution to OT.
But at the same time removing him would be pointless because he is still going to get denizenship whenever he does hit the requirement. I’m not sure if gen 10 is gonna end soon if so, if he doesn’t meet the requirement this gen then just move him to the next gen like what corne said
it's not pointless to remove and then re-add, it's just correcting a mistake. There is no way to keep blushing while still trying to make the requirements something important, if something, leaving blushing transmit the energy of "well didn't die I don't want drama so I'm just going to completely ignore this issue"
Hydreigon
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Hydreigon

Patatitta wrote:

What do you think of current moderation?
It's alright.
With more mods in OT awake in different timezones, it helps lock a lot of the trash out and giving proper moderation to some, albeit maaaybe with some mistakes from time to time, but it aint much of a bother, being so rare.
And i do like how each of them have there own sort of personality to them too, now as for stephanie, well not being favored by the newer denizens for locking random threads, i am intrigued by it and especially on how far it will go, however, its still not favorable for the masses, perhaps with my new "Unlocking" powers then, i would unlock the all the threads deemed, unworthy of a lock by the people of OT.

Patatitta wrote:

What is your opinion on chainposting?
Its just spam.
Which basically goes against the grand edict of OT

so yeah
Will definitely result in a silence, and a mass removal off all the chain posting posts
and if it continues well... exile time.

Really, this is more so directed to one (and maybe few, but they rarely do it) repeated offender, so the chance of it happening again is slim, especially now that mods here have recognize this as a problem

Kobold84 wrote:

What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
I dont really like the idea of being able to request for denizenship, as this would open to many ways people abusing it, such as newer denizens constantly begging for denizenship.
I would revert the denizenship just so the mistake can be corrected, and make the order of denizenship correct as well being Anaxii to Kobold to Sametdze, and give Blushing the proper the correct denizenship at a later date alongside with the new rules for denizenship.
Also ban the idea of future privately requesting for denizenship, as its the governments responsibility for when one gets to receive the title of denizenship and for it to also correct its mistake and not leave it.
Zain Sugieres
579 posts
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Zain Sugieres
This wouldn't be an issue if the denizen system did not exist.
Patatitta
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Patatitta

Zain Sugieres wrote:

This wouldn't be an issue if the denizen system did not exist.
based
Hydreigon
274 posts
Joined February 2020
Hydreigon

Manishh wrote:

Discuss? Don't you have any solid plans for it? just like most of us here. Other than inactive candidates. Parliament is same for the past 2 year or i say past 2 president year. Clearly nothing happened or changed in there time. How are you expecting things to change with you becoming president?
I do have some concrete plans for denizenship such as:

the shorter wait time
the ban of requesting for denizenship
the change of requirements

I still would give either a Yes or No on which ruling gets passed, its just that i want discussion with the new government so that i can have a more second opinion on it, so that i can see what else can be tinkered, and if the changes can be right and fair while still giving the prestige of one receiving the denizenship title

and yeah, new election for VP and a month after, new election for parliament


Manishh wrote:

So, you know there is a chance of you becoming inactive and the chances of it happening is not small, Since, thats why you are adding a whole new role. How will the candidate to get the role will be decided? By you? By election?. Why need a vice president role when there is a parliament with 4 members in it?
as stated above, another separate election would be held afterwards for the role of Vice President, as for why the need, ...well why not? the government has been really inactive and rather not doing much during my time back and from remarks of other people, and more denizens now active, surely the addition of another wouldnt hurt? and as stated before, the VP can sort act as a more if ever the case of the president dying to cringe, then the current VP would immediately take the role of president and it would be there choice of either, continuing the VP role and electing a new VP or abolishing it.
There is also other plans i make for the VP role, they can act as a more second in command, being able to make and orders similar to the president, with just now needing the president official permission on accepting so.




Patatitta wrote:

yeah hydreigon doesn't really solve anything, again, changing the denizen requirement is NOT a solution and just adding more roles wont fix innactivity at the higher levels
Wasn't the requirements of denizenship part of your complainys to the system and one of the reasons why you made OTEra's?
also one thing i want to add is that, i'll try to make it so that the changes to denizenship require arent fully the same with your OTEra system, that way both can exist as separate titles
though i think for you it wouldnt matter as you, as you would most likely abolish the denizenship system or sort of merge the ruling with OTEra's

As for the roles, while i cant fix the disease of inactivity, but i can counter it and make the government somewhat alive, such as giving a ruling where all if a government member even the president isnt active for atleast 1-2 months, then they get automatically kicked out and there roles being replaced, that way, it can somewhat help in making the government active without leaving inactive members in the government.
Also the ruling or one to request leaving the government (though im pretty sure this already exists)

so yeah...
Manishh
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Joined October 2020
Manishh

burgernfat wrote:

During your time as president, if someone started producing propaganda that is targeted against you, how would you react?
Listen to there issues, If the issues are not even real, I will just ignore it. But if they have good points. I will work on it.

Kobold84 wrote:

An important question for candidates.
How often do you shower?
1 time in a month


--------------------------Below are replies to others------------------------------

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
As a vote, I would probably do a poll to decide what OT people actually wants, as the Blushing addition kinda divides the denizens at the moment, as it's clear the Blushing doesn't meets the current requirement at the moment. I think I'll listen to what the majority wants.
You lost my vote right there


Asian Warlord wrote:

You’re not telling me what the requirements is.
You are not understanding how far he is from the rules. The stated requirement is 8 Months & 20 Pages of OT Posts
- An achievement of some sort. Sure we can say he is active for like 8months if you consider just 1 page of post can show all the post he made in 1month or 2 month.

As an idea, I have never chainposted and nor have did shitposting just to farm numbers, Like on shitpost thread or memorizing the number of pie thread. I dont reply on half of the thread in OT!(Out of 30thread in 1 page, I have hardly reply on 10) but still I have 6000posts in OT! in 2years.


Asian Warlord wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Asian Warlord wrote:

You’re not telling me what the requirements is.
I think it was 8 months on continuous activity + an actual big contribution to OT.
But at the same time removing him would be pointless because he is still going to get denizenship whenever he does hit the requirement. I’m not sure if gen 10 is gonna end soon if so, if he doesn’t meet the requirement this gen then just move him to the next gen like what corne said
There is point in removing him. Its not about if he deserve the denizenship or not. Its about, There was a mistake made, we are just fixing it


Hydreigon wrote:

Manishh wrote:

Discuss? Don't you have any solid plans for it? just like most of us here. Other than inactive candidates. Parliament is same for the past 2 year or i say past 2 president year. Clearly nothing happened or changed in there time. How are you expecting things to change with you becoming president?
I do have some concrete plans for denizenship such as:

the shorter wait time
the ban of requesting for denizenship
the change of requirements

I still would give either a Yes or No on which ruling gets passed, its just that i want discussion with the new government so that i can have a more second opinion on it, so that i can see what else can be tinkered, and if the changes can be right and fair while still giving the prestige of one receiving the denizenship title

and yeah, new election for VP and a month after, new election for parliament


Manishh wrote:

So, you know there is a chance of you becoming inactive and the chances of it happening is not small, Since, thats why you are adding a whole new role. How will the candidate to get the role will be decided? By you? By election?. Why need a vice president role when there is a parliament with 4 members in it?
as stated above, another separate election would be held afterwards for the role of Vice President, as for why the need, ...well why not? the government has been really inactive and rather not doing much during my time back and from remarks of other people, and more denizens now active, surely the addition of another wouldnt hurt? and as stated before, the VP can sort act as a more if ever the case of the president dying to cringe, then the current VP would immediately take the role of president and it would be there choice of either, continuing the VP role and electing a new VP or abolishing it.
There is also other plans i make for the VP role, they can act as a more second in command, being able to make and orders similar to the president, with just now needing the president official permission on accepting so.




Patatitta wrote:

yeah hydreigon doesn't really solve anything, again, changing the denizen requirement is NOT a solution and just adding more roles wont fix innactivity at the higher levels
Wasn't the requirements of denizenship part of your complainys to the system and one of the reasons why you made OTEra's?
also one thing i want to add is that, i'll try to make it so that the changes to denizenship require arent fully the same with your OTEra system, that way both can exist as separate titles
though i think for you it wouldnt matter as you, as you would most likely abolish the denizenship system or sort of merge the ruling with OTEra's

As for the roles, while i cant fix the disease of inactivity, but i can counter it and make the government somewhat alive, such as giving a ruling where all if a government member even the president isnt active for atleast 1-2 months, then they get automatically kicked out and there roles being replaced, that way, it can somewhat help in making the government active without leaving inactive members in the government.
Also the ruling or one to request leaving the government (though im pretty sure this already exists)

so yeah...

Hydreigon, nor the denizenship or the requirement of active month and x amount of post are the problem. The problem is not applying them consistently. These rules were never even applied on denizen above Gen8. And right now these rules are not getting applied. Thats the issue. You being there for 2nd opinion is the biggest shit I have heard in a while. YOU ARE THE PRESIDENT, YOU ARE THE ONE TO HAVE 1ST OPINION. Parliament is suppose to give you 2nd opinion and give you advice. OT! need change and a big one. All the effort abraker have put in till yet, the same amount of effort need to put in OT again and in just a year. You are not even saying "I will be active"
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Hydreigon wrote:

Wasn't the requirements of denizenship part of your complainys to the system and one of the reasons why you made OTEra's?
no????????? it absolutely wasn't????????????????
Corne2Plum3
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Kobold84 wrote:

An important question for candidates.
How often do you shower?
Around 6 times a week on average
Manishh
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Patatitta wrote:

Hydreigon wrote:

Wasn't the requirements of denizenship part of your complainys to the system and one of the reasons why you made OTEra's?
no????????? it absolutely wasn't????????????????
Sometimes I feel so bad for patatitta
Blushing
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You guys are focusing on the wrong problem at hand! The whole reason I was pushed for denizenship was to actively make change for systems in which the current government is too scared to seize control of!

You guys are looking and discussing apples when the real threat is about discussing all fruits and POSSIBLY even vegetables, but you are all too focused on the fact that I got a fake title on a website for a rhythm game!
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Patatitta

Blushing wrote:

You guys are focusing on the wrong problem at hand! The whole reason I was pushed for denizenship was to actively make change for systems in which the current government is too scared to seize control of!

You guys are looking and discussing apples when the real threat is about discussing all fruits and POSSIBLY even vegetables, but you are all too focused on the fact that I got a fake title on a website for a rhythm game!
yeah and i'm using you as an example that denizenship does not work
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