would transparency fix the problem of inactivity at the higher level tho?Manishh wrote:
Yeah I know that, Thats why I want to make the selection more transparentPatatitta wrote:
that's not the problem tho, the problem is denizens being overdue and not recieving denizenManishh wrote:
I dont really wanna change the rule either. But I wanna get rid of the impatient people who are like, "8months is too long and 20 pages of post is just post farm". I want to make the requirement simple and a requirement which dont change again.Patatitta wrote:
I disagere with you manishh, if the problem is that not every denizen was chosen under the same rule, how would changing the rule AGAIN help?
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Overall, a president that mostly showed a lack of activity and actions, and thus for almost the entire year.
Okay i forgot to add it while making my insane speech. "To stop the ever weakening strength of government" in the line I meant to recreate the gov or you may say as reform
questions that only ask about one's opinion don't require a lengthy answer, i could simply say "bad" but that one would be clearly against the rules - one word answers are not allowed.
Oi karmine stop bullying this dude
This will be discussed by the government and definitely changed, as this has now have caused problems with our current generation, plans for what will be the appropriate change will be discussed by me, the parliament and other future members of the government such as the future vice president.
As i do have some plans for changes, such as a shorter waiting time but still giving it the fairness and more prestige of one receiving the denizenship title, i still want to discuss this with other members of the government to make the changes right and appropriate to the denizens as possible.
And perhaps a better description of the 10th gen too.
Sadly, i wasnt active around the time eblf became president, but from what i could gather, there really wasnt much that happened during eblf's term, due to his less activity in OT.
I dont really want to follow this, hence why i plan for there to be a new vice president role during my term, so that in ever the case i do recede in activity, the vice president can temporarily take control.
also "you" as in the candidates
Personally, I don't like it at all when a user receive silence in OT! but if I became President and its your 2-3rd time doing it on purpose. I will not go against a moderator to stop your silence.
Everyone have worked for it and so will he(if he want denizen Title). When I become President, revoking his Denizen title be the 2nd thing I will do.
For newfags, it's a weird topic to talk about, since most of them are children still, some people who aren't children do act in the same way as some of them lmao. Everything very happy flower positive vibes (* ^ ω ^), look at my hyperfixation, i'm part of this very specific fandom and no I refuse to ever venture outside my comfort zone and I will completely missrepresent the work of fiction i've based my entire personality around (like i'm sorry but I feel like a lot of y'all don't get omori)
what happens is that we have a faction of people that basically only wants to disrupt OT/want to go back to the old days, a faction of people that basically wants for everything to be as family friendly as possible, and neither of them actually have the willpower to try to make any change happen. I don't think the actual relationship is bad, I have yet to really see any conflict, but it's true that they are two very different groups of people
With more mods in OT awake in different timezones, it helps lock a lot of the trash out and giving proper moderation to some, albeit maaaybe with some mistakes from time to time, but it aint much of a bother, being so rare.
And i do like how each of them have there own sort of personality to them too, now as for stephanie, well not being favored by the newer denizens for locking random threads, i am intrigued by it and especially on how far it will go, however, its still not favorable for the masses, perhaps with my new "Unlocking" powers then, i would unlock the all the threads deemed, unworthy of a lock by the people of OT.
Which basically goes against the grand edict of OT
so yeah
Will definitely result in a silence, and a mass removal off all the chain posting posts
and if it continues well... exile time.
Really, this is more so directed to one (and maybe few, but they rarely do it) repeated offender, so the chance of it happening again is slim, especially now that mods here have recognize this as a problem
I would revert the denizenship just so the mistake can be corrected, and make the order of denizenship correct as well being Anaxii to Kobold to Sametdze, and give Blushing the proper the correct denizenship at a later date alongside with the new rules for denizenship.
Also ban the idea of future privately requesting for denizenship, as its the governments responsibility for when one gets to receive the title of denizenship and for it to also correct its mistake and not leave it.
the shorter wait time
the ban of requesting for denizenship
the change of requirements
I still would give either a Yes or No on which ruling gets passed, its just that i want discussion with the new government so that i can have a more second opinion on it, so that i can see what else can be tinkered, and if the changes can be right and fair while still giving the prestige of one receiving the denizenship title
and yeah, new election for VP and a month after, new election for parliament
There is also other plans i make for the VP role, they can act as a more second in command, being able to make and orders similar to the president, with just now needing the president official permission on accepting so.
also one thing i want to add is that, i'll try to make it so that the changes to denizenship require arent fully the same with your OTEra system, that way both can exist as separate titles
though i think for you it wouldnt matter as you, as you would most likely abolish the denizenship system or sort of merge the ruling with OTEra's
As for the roles, while i cant fix the disease of inactivity, but i can counter it and make the government somewhat alive, such as giving a ruling where all if a government member even the president isnt active for atleast 1-2 months, then they get automatically kicked out and there roles being replaced, that way, it can somewhat help in making the government active without leaving inactive members in the government.
Also the ruling or one to request leaving the government (though im pretty sure this already exists)
so yeah...
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- An achievement of some sort. Sure we can say he is active for like 8months if you consider just 1 page of post can show all the post he made in 1month or 2 month.
As an idea, I have never chainposted and nor have did shitposting just to farm numbers, Like on shitpost thread or memorizing the number of pie thread. I dont reply on half of the thread in OT!(Out of 30thread in 1 page, I have hardly reply on 10) but still I have 6000posts in OT! in 2years.
Hydreigon, nor the denizenship or the requirement of active month and x amount of post are the problem. The problem is not applying them consistently. These rules were never even applied on denizen above Gen8. And right now these rules are not getting applied. Thats the issue. You being there for 2nd opinion is the biggest shit I have heard in a while. YOU ARE THE PRESIDENT, YOU ARE THE ONE TO HAVE 1ST OPINION. Parliament is suppose to give you 2nd opinion and give you advice. OT! need change and a big one. All the effort abraker have put in till yet, the same amount of effort need to put in OT again and in just a year. You are not even saying "I will be active"
This entire government election is just going to revert back to the same issues as previous ones. The lot of you think there is an inherent importance to the denizen title yet cant explain why it matters so much other than "Recognition and Hall of Fame", If i cared about actually needing that I wouldn't have named myself something so recognizable as "Blushing".
Revoke it or not I don't care, but you guys are using me to talk about an issue that will always plague the system. There is nothing that can be done until you all put away this fantasy that "I can be the one to fix denizen system", like be so fr.
There are bigger things at work and all you guys care about discussing is "BLUSHINGGGIUIUPiuhiuh NOOOO PLEASE WE CANT hAVE INCONSISTENCIES IN THE SYSTEM!!11!!!!", there is inconsistent moderation in this subforum and I dont see you guys debating that, even when its asked directly to you all. There is inconsistencies everywhere but the only one you guys care to talk about is the one that matters least to the overall forum. Be fr.
Why remove me when I can reach that in approximately the amount of time it takes me to write a script to post to on the last 20 pages
Also I’m mad that my name is being used as a political plot device without me even being involved in it
Because you dont meet the requirement?
Go ahead, Once you reach the requirement without getting silenced. I will give you denizenship
MP-1: I like this guy, he should be denizen
MP-2: I do too
MP-3: I dont dislike him
MP-4: I am not too sure, he is quite new.
MP-1: Come on everyone knows him and he is a good guy.
MP-4: sure...
It can get really biased. I dont see people like scyla getting denizen early since his post are not 'quality' but clearly people like him have big contribution in keeping OT! active. Thats why I want it to be more like
MP-1: I like this guy, he should be denizen
MP-2: I do too
MP-3: He does not meet the post requirement
MP-4: Yeah he does not but according to x rule. We can remove the post requirement if all 5 of us including president agrees.
MP-1: Yeah lets state why you want him to be denizen.
Something like this is what I wanna implement But its not a solid plan and I dont promise to implement it. I will discuss it after I won that is. Some sort of rules, either creating 2 queue on the basis of quality with 2 requirement(mostly not but fun idea to discuss)
So about the government having moderation powers I think this is unfortunately non implementable... Sorry...
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Definitely. Right now the only thing we have is there words. "we make a list of future denizens" which either they manage it very badly or it does not even exist. By it being transparent, they will receive critism if it is being badly managePatatitta wrote:
would transparency fix the problem of inactivity at the higher level tho?Manishh wrote:
Yeah I know that, Thats why I want to make the selection more transparentPatatitta wrote:
that's not the problem tho, the problem is denizens being overdue and not recieving denizenManishh wrote:
I dont really wanna change the rule either. But I wanna get rid of the impatient people who are like, "8months is too long and 20 pages of post is just post farm". I want to make the requirement simple and a requirement which dont change again.Patatitta wrote:
I disagere with you manishh, if the problem is that not every denizen was chosen under the same rule, how would changing the rule AGAIN help?
I mean, the list may still not exist, you just avoid them from lying, but that wouldn't make them do something, you would need to reform the gov to actually get change to happenManishh wrote:
Definitely. Right now the only thing we have is there words. "we make a list of future denizens" which either they manage it very badly or it does not even existPatatitta wrote:
would transparency fix the problem of inactivity at the higher level tho?Manishh wrote:
Yeah I know that, Thats why I want to make the selection more transparentPatatitta wrote:
that's not the problem tho, the problem is denizens being overdue and not recieving denizenManishh wrote:
I dont really wanna change the rule either. But I wanna get rid of the impatient people who are like, "8months is too long and 20 pages of post is just post farm". I want to make the requirement simple and a requirement which dont change again.Patatitta wrote:
I disagere with you manishh, if the problem is that not every denizen was chosen under the same rule, how would changing the rule AGAIN help?
It's outdated, leaving a large part of the current active user behind. Imo the requirements are too high and too long, it's not longer reflecting the active userbase of OT. It has to be improved for sure, to it actually reflects active users.Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think of the denizen system?
Sorry eblf2013 to be harsh, but to be honest, he didn't do too much, it was like he wasn't here. There was clearly a lack of activity and actions from him, to a point being sometimes secondary at taking some decision, and members of the council doing much more than what he did. And this rule added mid-elections to remove "inactive" candidate while they already registered, was just wrong imo, both in the idea and the execution. I can understand it was made to avoid inactive users, but this rule should have been added before the elections, and not during the elections. And the fact this was transmitted by someone else and not the president himself is another proof of eblf2013's lack of activity, in addition of being an unfair decision.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?
Overall, a president that mostly showed a lack of activity and actions, and thus for almost the entire year.
As I said to manishh, the requirements aren't the problem. The requirement for denizen has changed like 5 times over the years and we still have the exact same problem, it's something more fundamentalCorne2Plum3 wrote:
It's outdated, leaving a large part of the current active user behind. Imo the requirements are too high and too long, it's not longer reflecting the active userbase of OT. It has to be improved for sure, to it actually reflects active users.Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think of the denizen system?
Yeah and thats in the list of what i will do, Did i forgot to mention it in the registration phase?Patatitta wrote:
I mean, the list may still not exist, you just avoid them from lying, but that wouldn't make them do something, you would need to reform the gov to actually get change to happenManishh wrote:
Definitely. Right now the only thing we have is there words. "we make a list of future denizens" which either they manage it very badly or it does not even existPatatitta wrote:
would transparency fix the problem of inactivity at the higher level tho?Manishh wrote:
Yeah I know that, Thats why I want to make the selection more transparentPatatitta wrote:
that's not the problem tho, the problem is denizens being overdue and not recieving denizenManishh wrote:
I dont really wanna change the rule either. But I wanna get rid of the impatient people who are like, "8months is too long and 20 pages of post is just post farm". I want to make the requirement simple and a requirement which dont change again.Patatitta wrote:
I disagere with you manishh, if the problem is that not every denizen was chosen under the same rule, how would changing the rule AGAIN help?
Okay i forgot to add it while making my insane speech. "To stop the ever weakening strength of government" in the line I meant to recreate the gov or you may say as reform
idk tbh I haven't really checked, was working exclusively with the information you gave in this threadManishh wrote:
Yeah and thats in the list of what i will do, Did i forgot to mention it in the registration phase?Patatitta wrote:
I mean, the list may still not exist, you just avoid them from lying, but that wouldn't make them do something, you would need to reform the gov to actually get change to happenManishh wrote:
Definitely. Right now the only thing we have is there words. "we make a list of future denizens" which either they manage it very badly or it does not even existPatatitta wrote:
would transparency fix the problem of inactivity at the higher level tho?Manishh wrote:
Yeah I know that, Thats why I want to make the selection more transparentPatatitta wrote:
that's not the problem tho, the problem is denizens being overdue and not recieving denizenManishh wrote:
I dont really wanna change the rule either. But I wanna get rid of the impatient people who are like, "8months is too long and 20 pages of post is just post farm". I want to make the requirement simple and a requirement which dont change again.Patatitta wrote:
I disagere with you manishh, if the problem is that not every denizen was chosen under the same rule, how would changing the rule AGAIN help?
I did a edit ^
yeah that's fairManishh wrote:
I did a edit ^
this question goes to patatitta: do you have a foot fetish?
I don'tigorsprite wrote:
this question goes to patatitta: do you have a foot fetish?
Yeah, I dont think its only him, but the whole parliament member thinking is similar. Let the problem happen first, then we will fix itCorne2Plum3 wrote:
Sorry eblf2013 to be harsh, but to be honest, he didn't do too much, it was like he wasn't here. There was clearly a lack of activity and actions from him, to a point being sometimes secondary at taking some decision, and members of the council doing much more than what he did. And this rule added mid-elections to remove "inactive" candidate while they already registered, was just wrong imo, both in the idea and the execution. I can understand it was made to avoid inactive users, but this rule should have been added before the elections, and not during the elections. And the fact this was transmitted by someone else and not the president himself is another proof of eblf2013's lack of activity, in addition of being an unfair decision.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?
Overall, a president that mostly showed a lack of activity and actions, and thus for almost the entire year.
Patatitta wrote:
I don'tigorsprite wrote:
this question goes to patatitta: do you have a foot fetish?
Patatitta wrote:
I don'tigorsprite wrote:
this question goes to patatitta: do you have a foot fetish?
i have specified my stance clearly, 1st question i have specified my view on the denizen clearly and my solution to it, in the 2nd question its pretty obvious the guy didnt do anything as president and as such my opinion of him is negative - thats pretty clear from my answer and if you dont see that then sorry im not going to write a 500 word essay on why i find his inactivity badManishh wrote:
Did you even read the rules? your answer are most likely be seen as unanswered. I dont know why I am helping you but I guess why notZain Sugieres wrote:
the denizen system is too much official bureaucratic bs and we should go back to the old days of just calling people newfagsClevelandsMyBro wrote:
good shit looks like most people showed up. anyways lets jump straight into the first batch. 2 easy questions to warm up innit.Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think of the denizen system?[quote="Kobold84"]What do you think of the denizen system?[/quote]ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?[/quote]
did he even do anything Lol
questions that only ask about one's opinion don't require a lengthy answer, i could simply say "bad" but that one would be clearly against the rules - one word answers are not allowed.
You do you
My answers are related to the context and are not one letter/word answers - clearly not in violation of any rules.
if anything this is another case of unclear rules - something to watch out for whenever someone leads the elections again.
if anything this is another case of unclear rules - something to watch out for whenever someone leads the elections again.
Dude really going out of his way to troll this election.
Karmine wrote:
Dude really going out of his way to troll this election.
Can we get some candidate protection in here? I feel attacked on a personal level.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
- Treat everyone properly and keep it civil. You obviously have a right for free speech and expression of yourself, but you shall not use those rights to attack a candidate with slander or any other way to undermine someone's presidential campaign. Constructive criticism is welcome, however.
lmao you really think the op care about it?Zain Sugieres wrote:
Karmine wrote:
Dude really going out of his way to troll this election.Can we get some candidate protection in here? I feel attacked on a personal level.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
- Treat everyone properly and keep it civil. You obviously have a right for free speech and expression of yourself, but you shall not use those rights to attack a candidate with slander or any other way to undermine someone's presidential campaign. Constructive criticism is welcome, however.
Oi karmine stop bullying this dude
69th post
Wait how the fuck i've missed this lmao, i haven't seen this thread until now...
Damn! You are going to regret this mistake for whole year...Jun Maeda wrote:
Wait how the fuck i've missed this lmao, i haven't seen this thread until now...
Stating a fact is an attack? Damn.Zain Sugieres wrote:
Karmine wrote:
Dude really going out of his way to troll this election.Can we get some candidate protection in here? I feel attacked on a personal level.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
- Treat everyone properly and keep it civil. You obviously have a right for free speech and expression of yourself, but you shall not use those rights to attack a candidate with slander or any other way to undermine someone's presidential campaign. Constructive criticism is welcome, however.
keep projecting.Karmine wrote:
Stating a fact is an attack? Damn.Zain Sugieres wrote:
Karmine wrote:
Dude really going out of his way to troll this election.Can we get some candidate protection in here? I feel attacked on a personal level.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
- Treat everyone properly and keep it civil. You obviously have a right for free speech and expression of yourself, but you shall not use those rights to attack a candidate with slander or any other way to undermine someone's presidential campaign. Constructive criticism is welcome, however.
needs more swearingClevelandsMyBro wrote:
Welcome back you fucking assholes to the second phase of the 2024 OT Election.
Also shoutout outside influences fucking the election.
If you don't know what the fuck is going on, Please look at Phase One of the elction to get the general idea of what the fuck is going on.
its a community effort, already being doneZain Sugieres wrote:
i legit have no idea who you arw but if you say "we" of course ill reply with "you"Polyspora wrote:
me? tf do you think I am lolZain Sugieres wrote:
so you're telling me you're getting rid of separation of powers.Polyspora wrote:
thats what we doing now.ShinRun wrote:
If the GMT actually do listen to the OT!gov instead of being a separate entity.igorsprite wrote:
as president, what actions would you take regarding necroposts and the community that practices this act?
still beta testing, a lot of struggle on pushing that is foreseen, but we're getting there.
so you can tell what are you going to do about necroposting
Guys vote me, I will held an orgy event in OT!
Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think of the denizen system?
This will be discussed by the government and definitely changed, as this has now have caused problems with our current generation, plans for what will be the appropriate change will be discussed by me, the parliament and other future members of the government such as the future vice president.
As i do have some plans for changes, such as a shorter waiting time but still giving it the fairness and more prestige of one receiving the denizenship title, i still want to discuss this with other members of the government to make the changes right and appropriate to the denizens as possible.
And perhaps a better description of the 10th gen too.
ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?
Sadly, i wasnt active around the time eblf became president, but from what i could gather, there really wasnt much that happened during eblf's term, due to his less activity in OT.
I dont really want to follow this, hence why i plan for there to be a new vice president role during my term, so that in ever the case i do recede in activity, the vice president can temporarily take control.
Discuss? Don't you have any solid plans for it? just like most of us here. Other than inactive candidates. Parliament is same for the past 2 year or i say past 2 president year. Clearly nothing happened or changed in there time. How are you expecting things to change with you becoming president?Hydreigon wrote:
Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think of the denizen system?
This will be discussed by the government and definitely changed, as this has now have caused problems with our current generation, plans for what will be the appropriate change will be discussed by me, the parliament and other future members of the government such as the future vice president.
As i do have some plans for changes, such as a shorter waiting time but still giving it the fairness and more prestige of one receiving the denizenship title, i still want to discuss this with other members of the government to make the changes right and appropriate to the denizens as possible.
And perhaps a better description of the 10th gen too.
So, you know there is a chance of you becoming inactive and the chances of it happening is not small, Since, thats why you are adding a whole new role. How will the candidate to get the role will be decided? By you? By election?. Why need a vice president role when there is a parliament with 4 members in it?Hydreigon wrote:
ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
What do you think of eblf2013's time as ot!president?
Sadly, i wasnt active around the time eblf became president, but from what i could gather, there really wasnt much that happened during eblf's term, due to his less activity in OT.
I dont really want to follow this, hence why i plan for there to be a new vice president role during my term, so that in ever the case i do recede in activity, the vice president can temporarily take control.
yeah hydreigon doesn't really solve anything, again, changing the denizen requirement is NOT a solution and just adding more roles wont fix innactivity at the higher levels
even i posted a possible solution to the problem hydreigon u suck
Oi chill chill, You are breaking rulesZain Sugieres wrote:
even i posted a possible solution to the problem hydreigon u suck
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all clear. i will accept your answers as long as its related to the questions.Zain Sugieres wrote:
My answers are related to the context and are not one letter/word answers - clearly not in violation of any rules.
if anything this is another case of unclear rules - something to watch out for whenever someone leads the elections again.
also "you" as in the candidates
Topic Starter
no new batch today. i'll upload new batches sporadically this week. candidates are expected to keep their eyes peeled for new batches.
also just a heads up, just like every other year, questioneers are allowed to ask questions to specific candidates.
also just a heads up, just like every other year, questioneers are allowed to ask questions to specific candidates.
thank you for clarifying.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
all clear. i will accept your answers as long as its related to the questions.Zain Sugieres wrote:
My answers are related to the context and are not one letter/word answers - clearly not in violation of any rules.
if anything this is another case of unclear rules - something to watch out for whenever someone leads the elections again.
also "you" as in the candidates
This mfClevelandsMyBro wrote:
no new batch today. i'll upload new batches sporadically this week. candidates are expected to keep their eyes peeled for new batches.
also just a heads up, just like every other year, questioneers are allowed to ask questions for specific candidates.
bump
Asian Warlord wrote:
This mfClevelandsMyBro wrote:
no new batch today. i'll upload new batches sporadically this week. candidates are expected to keep their eyes peeled for new batches.
also just a heads up, just like every other year, questioneers are allowed to ask questions for specific candidates.
Topic Starter
New batch dropping lads
since most of the questions are asked by Presidential candidate Patatitta, he'll have to answer questions specifically for them.
Patatitta wrote:
What do you think of current moderation?
[quote="Patatitta"]What do you think of current moderation? [/quote]
Patatitta wrote:
What is your opinion on chainposting?
[quote="Patatitta"]What is your opinion on chainposting? [/quote]
Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
[quote="Kobold84"]What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president? [/quote]
since most of the questions are asked by Presidential candidate Patatitta, he'll have to answer questions specifically for them.
questions for Patatitta
ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
In the event of an uprising to overthrow the OT!Government, how would you react?
[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]In the event of an uprising to overthrow the OT!Government, how would you react? [/quote]
ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
How do you feel between the relationship of newfags and oldfags?
[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]How do you feel between the relationship of newfags and oldfags? [/quote]
I may not fully grasp the question, but on the whole, I believe the current moderators are doing an excellent job of managing Off-Topic (OT!), especially the Kobold and Corne duo. A significant factor contributing to their success is the reduced frequency of low-quality posts in OT! these days. Stefan may require more time to adapt to the evolving meta, and it's understandable; he lived through the Lordship era.Patatitta wrote:
What do you think of current moderation?
I find it disagreeable. I fail to understand why others find it amusing. It's disrupting the consistency/coherence of the page. If you, as the reader, find it amusing, I regret to inform you that it isn't. It's becoming a nuisance for users who frequent OT! and those looking to engage in discussions on active threads or users who initiate a conversation. Now, everything is a mess, and many may not bother reading the replies due to the lack of effort in the posts.Patatitta wrote:
What is your opinion on chainposting?
my rant
it become even more difficult for a News Reporter. I read all the threads just to get accurate news T~T. You don't even realize how annoying it is to read 90 threads, sometimes 120 threads in a week and gather News from them. And thanks to you, The number of threads to read has doubled since now I have to check if the old threads already read by me, have gotten new conversation on them. I have to check the date of so many threads. Its not easy as reading few threads and taking out a random post for the news T~T. Sometimes I even have to write the thread till 3am just because someone chainposted, either few days before or at the time of posting the thread
Personally, I don't like it at all when a user receive silence in OT! but if I became President and its your 2-3rd time doing it on purpose. I will not go against a moderator to stop your silence.
It's not that I believe Blushing isn't a suitable candidate for Denizen. He's a great person to engage with, and his posts in OT! showcase quality. However, they are not even close to the requirements. I found the post he made on the denizen thread very disrespectful. I dont know if he is active on OT!Neus or not, certainly not here, which is what I value.Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
Everyone have worked for it and so will he(if he want denizen Title). When I become President, revoking his Denizen title be the 2nd thing I will do.
I would 100% revert it, I don't think setting a precedent where we completely ignore the rules and just add denizens based on how much the govs likes them a good ideaKobold84 wrote:
What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
Depends on the gov tbh, if I was the president, I would be a little bit sad, but if not, honestly, more power to you. In the thread I made before I made OT!eras I had a section where I said something along the lines of "Proposals don't work, if you want change, you have to make it yourself.", if the gov went innactive or did a shit job and there was a group of people going, we actually care about this and we're going to push for our version to be better. Where they just copy paste the gov system but actually make it work, that is honestly a good thing and something that should happen MORE often on OTClevelandsMyBro wrote:
In the event of an uprising to overthrow the OT!Government, how would you react?
I feel a lot of oldfags are very out of touch, ot was better back in my day type thing. Not to mention people like stefan, who are so out of touch that they really don't get a lot of the culture of OT nowadays and do actions such as locking and wastelandind when it really isn't needed/actively harmful to OTClevelandsMyBro wrote:
How do you feel between the relationship of newfags and oldfags?
For newfags, it's a weird topic to talk about, since most of them are children still, some people who aren't children do act in the same way as some of them lmao. Everything very happy flower positive vibes (* ^ ω ^), look at my hyperfixation, i'm part of this very specific fandom and no I refuse to ever venture outside my comfort zone and I will completely missrepresent the work of fiction i've based my entire personality around (like i'm sorry but I feel like a lot of y'all don't get omori)
what happens is that we have a faction of people that basically only wants to disrupt OT/want to go back to the old days, a faction of people that basically wants for everything to be as family friendly as possible, and neither of them actually have the willpower to try to make any change happen. I don't think the actual relationship is bad, I have yet to really see any conflict, but it's true that they are two very different groups of people
They're honestly fine and it doesn't seem to me like they're abusing their power except for some specific cases where I think the rules are too strict compared to old forums.Patatitta wrote:
What do you think of current moderation?
It's whatever as long as the person actually engages in the threads, if you post 5 posts in a row in a single thread it's also pretty weird but in the end it doesn't really matter, as long as you don't just chain post in multiple threads with single word/letter posts, it should be allowed.Patatitta wrote:
What is your opinion on chainposting?
I've already specified my opinion on the denizen system overall. It shouldn't exist.Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
Divine for OT president!Reyalp51 wrote:
everyone wants to kill the children thats based
👁️👁️Patatitta wrote:
For newfags, it's a weird topic to talk about, since most of them are children still, some people who aren't children do act in the same way as some of them lmao. Everything very happy flower positive vibes (* ^ ω ^), look at my hyperfixation, i'm part of this very specific fandom and no I refuse to ever venture outside my comfort zone and I will completely missrepresent the work of fiction i've based my entire personality around (like i'm sorry but I feel like a lot of y'all don't get omori)
I’ll make this quick and simple for yall to read
Right now I don’t see any problems with the moderator themselves. Ig the problem is that the punishment is too short. Because back then whenever I got punished it was for 3 days. Now when I saw a user get punished. It is for 80 mins with is just a slap on the wrist.Patatitta wrote:
What do you think of current moderation?
I have no problem with it. We need to have fun that’s allPatatitta wrote:
What is your opinion on chainposting?
No, I would keep him since there no problem with him being a denizen. Blushing is an active ot member.Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
Kinda hard to not have a biased opinion as I'm literally part of the moderation... I think it's fine right now, I don't see too much issues with it. My only complain is Stefan who sometimes locks threads without any reason... But I think it's because OT changed a lot since he was gone before going back. I think it's just about adapting to the new meta...Patatitta wrote:
What do you think of current moderation?
I'm relatively neutral to it. I don't think this is a problem as long it add something to the discussion. It's annoying when someone post just for the sake of posting, often saying irrelevant comments... And in Off-Topic in particular I don't think chainposting is a major issue right now...Patatitta wrote:
What is your opinion on chainposting?
As a vote, I would probably do a poll to decide what OT people actually wants, as the Blushing addition kinda divides the denizens at the moment, as it's clear the Blushing doesn't meets the current requirement at the moment. I think I'll listen to what the majority wants. But personally I'm divided about what to do: keep Blushing, maybe move them to gen 11, or simply remove them until they meet requirements...Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
y'all are talking about changing the deniznen requirement because that is clearly a problem according to you guys but are willing to let someone who just ignores those requirements stay?
During your time as president, if someone started producing propaganda that is targeted against you, how would you react?
there already exists so like not much I guessburgernfat wrote:
During your time as president, if someone started producing propaganda that is targeted against you, how would you react?
I mean what even is the requirement nowadays. Blushing has been posting on ot for years now.Patatitta wrote:
y'all are talking about changing the deniznen requirement because that is clearly a problem according to you guys but are willing to let someone who just ignores those requirements stay?
that is straight up false, 6 pages total in OTAsian Warlord wrote:
I mean what even is the requirement nowadays. Blushing has been posting on ot for years now.Patatitta wrote:
y'all are talking about changing the deniznen requirement because that is clearly a problem according to you guys but are willing to let someone who just ignores those requirements stay?
An important question for candidates.
How often do you shower?
How often do you shower?
You’re not telling me what the requirements is.
I think it was 8 months on continuous activity + an actual big contribution to OT. Also you can just like look it upAsian Warlord wrote:
You’re not telling me what the requirements is.
Daily/every other day if I don't go outsideKobold84 wrote:
An important question for candidates.
How often do you shower?
But at the same time removing him would be pointless because he is still going to get denizenship whenever he does hit the requirement. I’m not sure if gen 10 is gonna end soon if so, if he doesn’t meet the requirement this gen then just move him to the next gen like what corne saidPatatitta wrote:
I think it was 8 months on continuous activity + an actual big contribution to OT.Asian Warlord wrote:
You’re not telling me what the requirements is.
There have been a some of my old OT posts moved to GD keep in mindPatatitta wrote:
that is straight up false, 6 pages total in OTAsian Warlord wrote:
I mean what even is the requirement nowadays. Blushing has been posting on ot for years now.Patatitta wrote:
y'all are talking about changing the deniznen requirement because that is clearly a problem according to you guys but are willing to let someone who just ignores those requirements stay?
dont care my actions speak better for myselfburgernfat wrote:
During your time as president, if someone started producing propaganda that is targeted against you, how would you react?
im the only candidate with a different solution.Patatitta wrote:
y'all are talking about changing the deniznen requirement because that is clearly a problem according to you guys but are willing to let someone who just ignores those requirements stay?
everydayKobold84 wrote:
An important question for candidates.
How often do you shower?
grapes s tierZain Sugieres wrote:
even i posted a possible solution to the problem hydreigon u suck
it's not pointless to remove and then re-add, it's just correcting a mistake. There is no way to keep blushing while still trying to make the requirements something important, if something, leaving blushing transmit the energy of "well didn't die I don't want drama so I'm just going to completely ignore this issue"Asian Warlord wrote:
But at the same time removing him would be pointless because he is still going to get denizenship whenever he does hit the requirement. I’m not sure if gen 10 is gonna end soon if so, if he doesn’t meet the requirement this gen then just move him to the next gen like what corne saidPatatitta wrote:
I think it was 8 months on continuous activity + an actual big contribution to OT.Asian Warlord wrote:
You’re not telling me what the requirements is.
It's alright.Patatitta wrote:
What do you think of current moderation?
With more mods in OT awake in different timezones, it helps lock a lot of the trash out and giving proper moderation to some, albeit maaaybe with some mistakes from time to time, but it aint much of a bother, being so rare.
And i do like how each of them have there own sort of personality to them too, now as for stephanie, well not being favored by the newer denizens for locking random threads, i am intrigued by it and especially on how far it will go, however, its still not favorable for the masses, perhaps with my new "Unlocking" powers then, i would unlock the all the threads deemed, unworthy of a lock by the people of OT.
Its just spam.Patatitta wrote:
What is your opinion on chainposting?
Which basically goes against the grand edict of OT
so yeah
Will definitely result in a silence, and a mass removal off all the chain posting posts
and if it continues well... exile time.
Really, this is more so directed to one (and maybe few, but they rarely do it) repeated offender, so the chance of it happening again is slim, especially now that mods here have recognize this as a problem
I dont really like the idea of being able to request for denizenship, as this would open to many ways people abusing it, such as newer denizens constantly begging for denizenship.Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
I would revert the denizenship just so the mistake can be corrected, and make the order of denizenship correct as well being Anaxii to Kobold to Sametdze, and give Blushing the proper the correct denizenship at a later date alongside with the new rules for denizenship.
Also ban the idea of future privately requesting for denizenship, as its the governments responsibility for when one gets to receive the title of denizenship and for it to also correct its mistake and not leave it.
This wouldn't be an issue if the denizen system did not exist.
basedZain Sugieres wrote:
This wouldn't be an issue if the denizen system did not exist.
I do have some concrete plans for denizenship such as:Manishh wrote:
Discuss? Don't you have any solid plans for it? just like most of us here. Other than inactive candidates. Parliament is same for the past 2 year or i say past 2 president year. Clearly nothing happened or changed in there time. How are you expecting things to change with you becoming president?
the shorter wait time
the ban of requesting for denizenship
the change of requirements
I still would give either a Yes or No on which ruling gets passed, its just that i want discussion with the new government so that i can have a more second opinion on it, so that i can see what else can be tinkered, and if the changes can be right and fair while still giving the prestige of one receiving the denizenship title
and yeah, new election for VP and a month after, new election for parliament
as stated above, another separate election would be held afterwards for the role of Vice President, as for why the need, ...well why not? the government has been really inactive and rather not doing much during my time back and from remarks of other people, and more denizens now active, surely the addition of another wouldnt hurt? and as stated before, the VP can sort act as a more if ever the case of the president dying to cringe, then the current VP would immediately take the role of president and it would be there choice of either, continuing the VP role and electing a new VP or abolishing it.Manishh wrote:
So, you know there is a chance of you becoming inactive and the chances of it happening is not small, Since, thats why you are adding a whole new role. How will the candidate to get the role will be decided? By you? By election?. Why need a vice president role when there is a parliament with 4 members in it?
There is also other plans i make for the VP role, they can act as a more second in command, being able to make and orders similar to the president, with just now needing the president official permission on accepting so.
Wasn't the requirements of denizenship part of your complainys to the system and one of the reasons why you made OTEra's?Patatitta wrote:
yeah hydreigon doesn't really solve anything, again, changing the denizen requirement is NOT a solution and just adding more roles wont fix innactivity at the higher levels
also one thing i want to add is that, i'll try to make it so that the changes to denizenship require arent fully the same with your OTEra system, that way both can exist as separate titles
though i think for you it wouldnt matter as you, as you would most likely abolish the denizenship system or sort of merge the ruling with OTEra's
As for the roles, while i cant fix the disease of inactivity, but i can counter it and make the government somewhat alive, such as giving a ruling where all if a government member even the president isnt active for atleast 1-2 months, then they get automatically kicked out and there roles being replaced, that way, it can somewhat help in making the government active without leaving inactive members in the government.
Also the ruling or one to request leaving the government (though im pretty sure this already exists)
so yeah...
Listen to there issues, If the issues are not even real, I will just ignore it. But if they have good points. I will work on it.burgernfat wrote:
During your time as president, if someone started producing propaganda that is targeted against you, how would you react?
1 time in a monthKobold84 wrote:
An important question for candidates.
How often do you shower?
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You lost my vote right thereCorne2Plum3 wrote:
Kobold84 wrote:
What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
You are not understanding how far he is from the rules. The stated requirement is 8 Months & 20 Pages of OT PostsAsian Warlord wrote:
You’re not telling me what the requirements is.
- An achievement of some sort. Sure we can say he is active for like 8months if you consider just 1 page of post can show all the post he made in 1month or 2 month.
As an idea, I have never chainposted and nor have did shitposting just to farm numbers, Like on shitpost thread or memorizing the number of pie thread. I dont reply on half of the thread in OT!(Out of 30thread in 1 page, I have hardly reply on 10) but still I have 6000posts in OT! in 2years.
There is point in removing him. Its not about if he deserve the denizenship or not. Its about, There was a mistake made, we are just fixing itAsian Warlord wrote:
But at the same time removing him would be pointless because he is still going to get denizenship whenever he does hit the requirement. I’m not sure if gen 10 is gonna end soon if so, if he doesn’t meet the requirement this gen then just move him to the next gen like what corne saidPatatitta wrote:
I think it was 8 months on continuous activity + an actual big contribution to OT.Asian Warlord wrote:
You’re not telling me what the requirements is.
Hydreigon wrote:
I do have some concrete plans for denizenship such as:Manishh wrote:
Discuss? Don't you have any solid plans for it? just like most of us here. Other than inactive candidates. Parliament is same for the past 2 year or i say past 2 president year. Clearly nothing happened or changed in there time. How are you expecting things to change with you becoming president?
the shorter wait time
the ban of requesting for denizenship
the change of requirements
I still would give either a Yes or No on which ruling gets passed, its just that i want discussion with the new government so that i can have a more second opinion on it, so that i can see what else can be tinkered, and if the changes can be right and fair while still giving the prestige of one receiving the denizenship title
and yeah, new election for VP and a month after, new election for parliamentas stated above, another separate election would be held afterwards for the role of Vice President, as for why the need, ...well why not? the government has been really inactive and rather not doing much during my time back and from remarks of other people, and more denizens now active, surely the addition of another wouldnt hurt? and as stated before, the VP can sort act as a more if ever the case of the president dying to cringe, then the current VP would immediately take the role of president and it would be there choice of either, continuing the VP role and electing a new VP or abolishing it.Manishh wrote:
So, you know there is a chance of you becoming inactive and the chances of it happening is not small, Since, thats why you are adding a whole new role. How will the candidate to get the role will be decided? By you? By election?. Why need a vice president role when there is a parliament with 4 members in it?
There is also other plans i make for the VP role, they can act as a more second in command, being able to make and orders similar to the president, with just now needing the president official permission on accepting so.Wasn't the requirements of denizenship part of your complainys to the system and one of the reasons why you made OTEra's?Patatitta wrote:
yeah hydreigon doesn't really solve anything, again, changing the denizen requirement is NOT a solution and just adding more roles wont fix innactivity at the higher levels
also one thing i want to add is that, i'll try to make it so that the changes to denizenship require arent fully the same with your OTEra system, that way both can exist as separate titles
though i think for you it wouldnt matter as you, as you would most likely abolish the denizenship system or sort of merge the ruling with OTEra's
As for the roles, while i cant fix the disease of inactivity, but i can counter it and make the government somewhat alive, such as giving a ruling where all if a government member even the president isnt active for atleast 1-2 months, then they get automatically kicked out and there roles being replaced, that way, it can somewhat help in making the government active without leaving inactive members in the government.
Also the ruling or one to request leaving the government (though im pretty sure this already exists)
so yeah...
Hydreigon, nor the denizenship or the requirement of active month and x amount of post are the problem. The problem is not applying them consistently. These rules were never even applied on denizen above Gen8. And right now these rules are not getting applied. Thats the issue. You being there for 2nd opinion is the biggest shit I have heard in a while. YOU ARE THE PRESIDENT, YOU ARE THE ONE TO HAVE 1ST OPINION. Parliament is suppose to give you 2nd opinion and give you advice. OT! need change and a big one. All the effort abraker have put in till yet, the same amount of effort need to put in OT again and in just a year. You are not even saying "I will be active"
no????????? it absolutely wasn't????????????????Hydreigon wrote:
Wasn't the requirements of denizenship part of your complainys to the system and one of the reasons why you made OTEra's?
Around 6 times a week on averageKobold84 wrote:
An important question for candidates.
How often do you shower?
Sometimes I feel so bad for patatittaPatatitta wrote:
no????????? it absolutely wasn't????????????????Hydreigon wrote:
Wasn't the requirements of denizenship part of your complainys to the system and one of the reasons why you made OTEra's?
You guys are focusing on the wrong problem at hand! The whole reason I was pushed for denizenship was to actively make change for systems in which the current government is too scared to seize control of!
You guys are looking and discussing apples when the real threat is about discussing all fruits and POSSIBLY even vegetables, but you are all too focused on the fact that I got a fake title on a website for a rhythm game!
You guys are looking and discussing apples when the real threat is about discussing all fruits and POSSIBLY even vegetables, but you are all too focused on the fact that I got a fake title on a website for a rhythm game!
yeah and i'm using you as an example that denizenship does not workBlushing wrote:
You guys are focusing on the wrong problem at hand! The whole reason I was pushed for denizenship was to actively make change for systems in which the current government is too scared to seize control of!
You guys are looking and discussing apples when the real threat is about discussing all fruits and POSSIBLY even vegetables, but you are all too focused on the fact that I got a fake title on a website for a rhythm game!
If you are going to use me you should use me for something more creative and less tedious than the same 6 year discussion about To be: Denizenship or Not To Be: No Denizenship.Patatitta wrote:
Blushing wrote:
You guys are focusing on the wrong problem at hand! The whole reason I was pushed for denizenship was to actively make change for systems in which the current government is too scared to seize control of!
You guys are looking and discussing apples when the real threat is about discussing all fruits and POSSIBLY even vegetables, but you are all too focused on the fact that I got a fake title on a website for a rhythm game!yeah and i'm using you as an example that denizenship does not workBlushing wrote:
You guys are focusing on the wrong problem at hand! The whole reason I was pushed for denizenship was to actively make change for systems in which the current government is too scared to seize control of!
You guys are looking and discussing apples when the real threat is about discussing all fruits and POSSIBLY even vegetables, but you are all too focused on the fact that I got a fake title on a website for a rhythm game!
This entire government election is just going to revert back to the same issues as previous ones. The lot of you think there is an inherent importance to the denizen title yet cant explain why it matters so much other than "Recognition and Hall of Fame", If i cared about actually needing that I wouldn't have named myself something so recognizable as "Blushing".
Revoke it or not I don't care, but you guys are using me to talk about an issue that will always plague the system. There is nothing that can be done until you all put away this fantasy that "I can be the one to fix denizen system", like be so fr.
There are bigger things at work and all you guys care about discussing is "BLUSHINGGGIUIUPiuhiuh NOOOO PLEASE WE CANT hAVE INCONSISTENCIES IN THE SYSTEM!!11!!!!", there is inconsistent moderation in this subforum and I dont see you guys debating that, even when its asked directly to you all. There is inconsistencies everywhere but the only one you guys care to talk about is the one that matters least to the overall forum. Be fr.
dude, we've talked this in discord, my point is to re-do the system from the ground up, and I also complained about inconsistent moderation, that is also something I want to change, don't missrepresent what i've told to youBlushing wrote:
If you are going to use me you should use me for something more creative and less tedious than the same 6 year discussion about To be: Denizenship or Not To Be: No Denizenship.Patatitta wrote:
Blushing wrote:
You guys are focusing on the wrong problem at hand! The whole reason I was pushed for denizenship was to actively make change for systems in which the current government is too scared to seize control of!
You guys are looking and discussing apples when the real threat is about discussing all fruits and POSSIBLY even vegetables, but you are all too focused on the fact that I got a fake title on a website for a rhythm game!yeah and i'm using you as an example that denizenship does not workBlushing wrote:
You guys are focusing on the wrong problem at hand! The whole reason I was pushed for denizenship was to actively make change for systems in which the current government is too scared to seize control of!
You guys are looking and discussing apples when the real threat is about discussing all fruits and POSSIBLY even vegetables, but you are all too focused on the fact that I got a fake title on a website for a rhythm game!
This entire government election is just going to revert back to the same issues as previous ones. The lot of you think there is an inherent importance to the denizen title yet cant explain why it matters so much other than "Recognition and Hall of Fame", If i cared about actually needing that I wouldn't have named myself something so recognizable as "Blushing".
Revoke it or not I don't care, but you guys are using me to talk about an issue that will always plague the system. There is nothing that can be done until you all put away this fantasy that "I can be the one to fix denizen system", like be so fr.
There are bigger things at work and all you guys care about discussing is "BLUSHINGGGIUIUPiuhiuh NOOOO PLEASE WE CANT hAVE INCONSISTENCIES IN THE SYSTEM!!11!!!!", there is inconsistent moderation in this subforum and I dont see you guys debating that, even when its asked directly to you all. There is inconsistencies everywhere but the only one you guys care to talk about is the one that matters least to the overall forum. Be fr.
not much, average discussion users discussingShinRun wrote:
Damn tf is happening
Sometimes I think you guys care about denizenship too much. Its an title which is given after you meet the requirement of 8months and 20 pages of post. What is complicated about it?
I will just make this rule apply to every denizen there is in OT! and Will make a rule: If future government want to change the rule. It must be applied to every citizens there was or is in OT!. (so if you are really serious about it, You need to put an insane amount of effort.)
I will just make this rule apply to every denizen there is in OT! and Will make a rule: If future government want to change the rule. It must be applied to every citizens there was or is in OT!. (so if you are really serious about it, You need to put an insane amount of effort.)
^ this is also something i'm pushing forManishh wrote:
Sometimes I think you guys care about denizenship too much. Its an title which is given after you meet the requirement of 8months and 20 pages of post. What is complicated about it?
I will just make this rule apply to every denizen there is in OT! and Will make a rule: If future government want to change the rule. It must be applied to every citizens there was or is in OT!. (so if you are really serious about it, You need to put an insane amount of effort.)
Then what makes it hold special value? If it’s just a title when I reach a milestone then why does it hold value?Manishh wrote:
Sometimes I think you guys care about denizenship too much. Its an title which is given after you meet the requirement of 8months and 20 pages of post. What is complicated about it?
I will just make this rule apply to every denizen there is in OT! and Will make a rule: If future government want to change the rule. It must be applied to every citizens there was or is in OT!. (so if you are really serious about it, You need to put an insane amount of effort.)
Why remove me when I can reach that in approximately the amount of time it takes me to write a script to post to on the last 20 pages
blushing be mad that people are complaining that he got denizen
It’s less about the title but more about the premise. Everyone I talk to says “it doesn’t matter that much” yet the most debate this thread has is whether or not I deserve to keep a damn titlePatatitta wrote:
blushing be mad that people are complaining that he got denizen
Also I’m mad that my name is being used as a political plot device without me even being involved in it
Does it need special value? What value does it need? What value does a award trophy holds? You cant sell it, You cant eat it.Blushing wrote:
Then what makes it hold special value? If it’s just a title when I reach a milestone then why does it hold value?Manishh wrote:
Sometimes I think you guys care about denizenship too much. Its an title which is given after you meet the requirement of 8months and 20 pages of post. What is complicated about it?
I will just make this rule apply to every denizen there is in OT! and Will make a rule: If future government want to change the rule. It must be applied to every citizens there was or is in OT!. (so if you are really serious about it, You need to put an insane amount of effort.)
"Why remove me"Blushing wrote:
Why remove me when I can reach that in approximately the amount of time it takes me to write a script to post to on the last 20 pages
Because you dont meet the requirement?
Go ahead, Once you reach the requirement without getting silenced. I will give you denizenship
my argument is that it doesn't matter much BECAUSE it has been so misstreated and misshandled where the actual title has lost any meaning, I'm trying to reverse thatBlushing wrote:
It’s less about the title but more about the premise. Everyone I talk to says “it doesn’t matter that much” yet the most debate this thread has is whether or not I deserve to keep a damn titlePatatitta wrote:
blushing be mad that people are complaining that he got denizen
Also I’m mad that my name is being used as a political plot device without me even being involved in it
has it ever had a meaning? some oldfags have like 13 pages of post in totalPatatitta wrote:
my argument is that it doesn't matter much BECAUSE it has been so misstreated and misshandled where the actual title has lost any meaning, I'm trying to reverse thatBlushing wrote:
It’s less about the title but more about the premise. Everyone I talk to says “it doesn’t matter that much” yet the most debate this thread has is whether or not I deserve to keep a damn titlePatatitta wrote:
blushing be mad that people are complaining that he got denizen
Also I’m mad that my name is being used as a political plot device without me even being involved in it
from the time i've been on OT, no, it hasn't ever had a meaning, but I at least want to make that the rules that are on the thread are applied and also that the acutal rules are consistant all across the threadReyalp51 wrote:
has it ever had a meaning? some oldfags have like 13 pages of post in totalPatatitta wrote:
my argument is that it doesn't matter much BECAUSE it has been so misstreated and misshandled where the actual title has lost any meaning, I'm trying to reverse thatBlushing wrote:
It’s less about the title but more about the premise. Everyone I talk to says “it doesn’t matter that much” yet the most debate this thread has is whether or not I deserve to keep a damn titlePatatitta wrote:
blushing be mad that people are complaining that he got denizen
Also I’m mad that my name is being used as a political plot device without me even being involved in it
The meaning is that abraker scrolled through old posts and the ones who made an impact in his memory got the denizen title. Just posting a lot is not enough, I don't even like the current requirements, they shouldn't exist. It should be people who were part of the community and left an impression on OT. Usually posting a lot does that, but there were people with less posts who still excelled at it. It's arguable if Blushing did.Reyalp51 wrote:
has it ever had a meaning? some oldfags have like 13 pages of post in totalPatatitta wrote:
my argument is that it doesn't matter much BECAUSE it has been so misstreated and misshandled where the actual title has lost any meaning, I'm trying to reverse thatBlushing wrote:
It’s less about the title but more about the premise. Everyone I talk to says “it doesn’t matter that much” yet the most debate this thread has is whether or not I deserve to keep a damn titlePatatitta wrote:
blushing be mad that people are complaining that he got denizen
Also I’m mad that my name is being used as a political plot device without me even being involved in it
everytime my name is said in this thread I will just meow at you.
Remove my denizen title or don't. The change is not that important compared to stuff that can and should be discussed.
Remove my denizen title or don't. The change is not that important compared to stuff that can and should be discussed.
blushingBlushing wrote:
everytime my name is said in this thread I will just meow at you.
Remove my denizen title or don't. The change is not that important compared to stuff that can and should be discussed.
Blushing Blushing BlushingBlushing wrote:
everytime my name is said in this thread I will just meow at you.
Remove my denizen title or don't. The change is not that important compared to stuff that can and should be discussed.
blushingBlushing wrote:
everytime my name is said in this thread I will just meow at you.
Remove my denizen title or don't. The change is not that important compared to stuff that can and should be discussed.
meowigorsprite wrote:
blushingBlushing wrote:
everytime my name is said in this thread I will just meow at you.
Remove my denizen title or don't. The change is not that important compared to stuff that can and should be discussed.
meow meow meowKobold84 wrote:
Blushing Blushing BlushingBlushing wrote:
everytime my name is said in this thread I will just meow at you.
Remove my denizen title or don't. The change is not that important compared to stuff that can and should be discussed.
meowSerraionga wrote:
blushingBlushing wrote:
everytime my name is said in this thread I will just meow at you.
Remove my denizen title or don't. The change is not that important compared to stuff that can and should be discussed.
Blushing wrote:
meowigorsprite wrote:
blushingBlushing wrote:
everytime my name is said in this thread I will just meow at you.
Remove my denizen title or don't. The change is not that important compared to stuff that can and should be discussed.meow meow meowKobold84 wrote:
Blushing Blushing BlushingBlushing wrote:
everytime my name is said in this thread I will just meow at you.
Remove my denizen title or don't. The change is not that important compared to stuff that can and should be discussed.meowSerraionga wrote:
blushingBlushing wrote:
everytime my name is said in this thread I will just meow at you.
Remove my denizen title or don't. The change is not that important compared to stuff that can and should be discussed.
https://serraionga.s-ul.eu/zcqH4ZP6Blushing wrote:
meow
I have thought about this every time the denizen topic came in past, But till now I have not find any rule which is simple for future gov to follow and is great at selecting denizen. The problem with 'people who were part of the community and left an impression on OT' can turn into.Kobold84 wrote:
The meaning is that abraker scrolled through old posts and the ones who made an impact in his memory got the denizen title. Just posting a lot is not enough, I don't even like the current requirements, they shouldn't exist. It should be people who were part of the community and left an impression on OT. Usually posting a lot does that, but there were people with less posts who still excelled at it. It's arguable if Blushing did.Reyalp51 wrote:
has it ever had a meaning? some oldfags have like 13 pages of post in totalPatatitta wrote:
my argument is that it doesn't matter much BECAUSE it has been so misstreated and misshandled where the actual title has lost any meaning, I'm trying to reverse thatBlushing wrote:
It’s less about the title but more about the premise. Everyone I talk to says “it doesn’t matter that much” yet the most debate this thread has is whether or not I deserve to keep a damn titlePatatitta wrote:
blushing be mad that people are complaining that he got denizen
Also I’m mad that my name is being used as a political plot device without me even being involved in it
MP-1: I like this guy, he should be denizen
MP-2: I do too
MP-3: I dont dislike him
MP-4: I am not too sure, he is quite new.
MP-1: Come on everyone knows him and he is a good guy.
MP-4: sure...
It can get really biased. I dont see people like scyla getting denizen early since his post are not 'quality' but clearly people like him have big contribution in keeping OT! active. Thats why I want it to be more like
MP-1: I like this guy, he should be denizen
MP-2: I do too
MP-3: He does not meet the post requirement
MP-4: Yeah he does not but according to x rule. We can remove the post requirement if all 5 of us including president agrees.
MP-1: Yeah lets state why you want him to be denizen.
Something like this is what I wanna implement But its not a solid plan and I dont promise to implement it. I will discuss it after I won that is. Some sort of rules, either creating 2 queue on the basis of quality with 2 requirement(mostly not but fun idea to discuss)
i aint reading all that but happy for you
Ok I read some of it and your stances on this are specifically caused by the fact the "denizen system" has been turned from a fun little side project by abraker into something that you guys take way too seriously - it should have been seen as a "hall of fame" thread rather than people who are part of the community. OT should have never been gatekept by anything other than peer pressure and the introduction of the denizen title has been devastating to the forum.
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third batch is here lads. only 2 questions this batch since one question is quite the complicated one.
Blushing wrote:
What would you propose be done if another overlord comes in and starts a locking frenzy?
[quote="Blushing"] What would you propose be done if another overlord comes in and starts a locking frenzy? [/quote]
Blushing wrote:
If you feel that the OT community should have more power in their own moderation and what should and should not be allowed: - What steps would you take if a denizen felt one of their threads was unfairly wastelanded or locked? If you feel differently to this: - What exactly are you trying to do differently from the inactive regime currently in power? How would you want this to be done?
[quote="Blushing"] If you feel that the OT community should have more power in their own moderation and what should and should not be allowed: - What steps would you take if a denizen felt one of their threads was unfairly wastelanded or locked? If you feel differently to this: - What exactly are you trying to do differently from the inactive regime currently in power? How would you want this to be done? [/quote]
Undo their actions heheheBlushing wrote:
What would you propose be done if another overlord comes in and starts a locking frenzy?
Giving more moderating powers to non-GMT is kinda... complicated... The problem with wastelanded threads is most of the time (let's say at least for the ones I do wasteland) there's actually a real reason for the wasteland, such as inappropriate discussions and contents that goes against the rules, and they should remain here. I can understand this is something that may look unfair but there's nothing you can do... And about the lock abuses, I feel like they're quite rare, I don't think it's really needed.Blushing wrote:
If you feel that the OT community should have more power in their own moderation and what should and should not be allowed: - What steps would you take if a denizen felt one of their threads was unfairly wastelanded or locked? If you feel differently to this: - What exactly are you trying to do differently from the inactive regime currently in power? How would you want this to be done?
So about the government having moderation powers I think this is unfortunately non implementable... Sorry...