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ok the blue archive story is so good tho
(i really need to go back and read vol 5 after quitting)
(i really need to go back and read vol 5 after quitting)
Play something else
😂sametdze wrote:
hell nah man wtf is this thread bro
I wonder what's the reason jang plays a gacha game full of lolis, probably just a good game
Jangsoodlor
yeah so true the story is so good you play the game for the plotJangsoodlor wrote:
|Patatitta wrote:
I wonder what's the reason jang plays a gacha game full of lolis, probably just a good game
vnominomu wrote:
ok the blue archive story is so good tho
(i really need to go back and read vol 5 after quitting)
the story is mid at best
Jangsoodlor
The story is so peak man you should try itPatatitta wrote:
yeah so true the story is so good you play the game for the plotJangsoodlor wrote:
|Patatitta wrote:
I wonder what's the reason jang plays a gacha game full of lolis, probably just a good game
vnominomu wrote:
ok the blue archive story is so good tho
(i really need to go back and read vol 5 after quitting)
If you enjoy it, great. I don't, because it is a gacha and has a lot of lolis in it. It does have some hot, more mature looking ladies too, though, but yeah, gacha game. Not my thing.
The grass is lonely and is crying dew drops
Jangsoodlor
Atleast she’s the same age as me
you see they can make a post clearly baiting people like you into posting that but you cant post that, however, the original post stays up because we have no way to know what the intention wasReyalp51 wrote:
they deleted my post
sad day
what happenedPatatitta wrote:
you see they can make a post clearly baiting people like you into posting that but you cant post that, however, the original post stays up because we have no way to know what the intention wasReyalp51 wrote:
they deleted my post
sad day
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
Jangsoodlor
Google CensorshipPolyspora wrote:
MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
try bing lolJangsoodlor wrote:
Google CensorshipPolyspora wrote:
MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
Asuna Ichinose? Is she sisters with the queen Rika Ichinose?MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
Also, Asuna as a wallpaper is based
It's called Google SafeSearch and it is for the kids that don't have parents who control them.Jangsoodlor wrote:
Google CensorshipPolyspora wrote:
MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
No idea, I only played the game briefly before going back to Goddess of Victory: Nikke. I just like the character designs in Blue Archive.Winnyace wrote:
Asuna Ichinose? Is she sisters with the queen Rika Ichinose?MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
Also, Asuna as a wallpaper is based
I was just messing about. I doubt there's a connection. I don't play gachas, but I do enjoy the fanart many post of the girls. Some of them are really cute and hot at the same timeMistressRemilia wrote:
No idea, I only played the game briefly before going back to Goddess of Victory: Nikke. I just like the character designs in Blue Archive.Winnyace wrote:
Asuna Ichinose? Is she sisters with the queen Rika Ichinose?MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
Also, Asuna as a wallpaper is based
Jangsoodlor
get used to itReyalp51 wrote:
they deleted my post
sad day
are you guys autistic? it was a joke about the first results being most probably 18+ imagesWinnyace wrote:
Asuna Ichinose? Is she sisters with the queen Rika Ichinose?MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
Also, Asuna as a wallpaper is basedIt's called Google SafeSearch and it is for the kids that don't have parents who control them.Jangsoodlor wrote:
Google CensorshipPolyspora wrote:
MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
I share the same birthday as Akari apparently, that's nice.
at some point with communication, it's no longer really "an autism thing" (though i can imagine that's likely enough to be another joke in its own right somehow), independently of the intuitive premise that autism constitutes more than just being very literal and precise about semantics, and may not even necessarily suggest that to begin with (basically, semantic precision would not be exclusive to autism)Polyspora wrote:
are you guys autistic? it was a joke about the first results being most probably 18+ imagesWinnyace wrote:
Asuna Ichinose? Is she sisters with the queen Rika Ichinose?MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
Also, Asuna as a wallpaper is basedIt's called Google SafeSearch and it is for the kids that don't have parents who control them.Jangsoodlor wrote:
Google CensorshipPolyspora wrote:
MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
it really could just be that language is often ambiguous and leaving the underlying intended joke to be implied means it would be reasonable to expect someone won't get it ^^;; i mean if it's ironic then the irony of misunderstandings could potentially be the point, otherwise i imagine the humor is in how the people who get it Really Get It, or something
honestly i think i forgot the purpose of a joke being easy to ambiguously interpret, i know there is one, and it could easily read to the user of it as simply "it's just funny", but i don't remember how ambiguity makes it funny
especially when presumably it sounds like it's been confusing to see someone interpret it differently, it could be avoided with more precise clarity to save yourself the trouble... or it might not be troubling at all, idk
edit: yikes this feels condescending as hell from myself, there wasn't meant to be any malice, i've naturally had this habit of placing a lot of effort into describing what i mean... i'm aware that this is very likely annoyingly disproportionate to something like "this was just a joke", but i genuinely enjoy exploring the rationale of it and that instinct tends to take precedence
i wonder how to edit this while retaining these contexts as supporting arguments;;
Did you have to be this aggressive dude?Polyspora wrote:
are you guys autistic? it was a joke about the first results being most probably 18+ imagesWinnyace wrote:
Asuna Ichinose? Is she sisters with the queen Rika Ichinose?MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
Also, Asuna as a wallpaper is basedIt's called Google SafeSearch and it is for the kids that don't have parents who control them.Jangsoodlor wrote:
Google CensorshipPolyspora wrote:
MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
that was one of my impressions but it seems possible it wasn't necessarily intended to be aggressive, and just how the tone and choice of response sounds in general to our senses of pattern-recognitionCorne2Plum3 wrote:
Did you have to be this aggressive dude?Polyspora wrote:
are you guys autistic? it was a joke about the first results being most probably 18+ imagesWinnyace wrote:
Asuna Ichinose? Is she sisters with the queen Rika Ichinose?MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
Also, Asuna as a wallpaper is basedIt's called Google SafeSearch and it is for the kids that don't have parents who control them.Jangsoodlor wrote:
Google CensorshipPolyspora wrote:
MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
...but sounding aggressive to begin with would probably be useful to avoid if not intended and not useful, it Could be sincere but it also could be more trouble than it's worth when communicating, even when there isn't remotely any malice or aggression being held-- a classic case of "intent versus effect"
are you serious right now? brother how did my post hurt you? is being autistic a negative trait for you? to others, it was an exaggerated sincere question.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
Did you have to be this aggressive dude?Polyspora wrote:
are you guys autistic? it was a joke about the first results being most probably 18+ imagesWinnyace wrote:
Asuna Ichinose? Is she sisters with the queen Rika Ichinose?MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
Also, Asuna as a wallpaper is basedIt's called Google SafeSearch and it is for the kids that don't have parents who control them.Jangsoodlor wrote:
Google CensorshipPolyspora wrote:
MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
calm down guysPolyspora wrote:
are you serious right now? brother how did my post hurt you? is being autistic a negative trait for you? to others, it was an exaggerated sincere question.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
Did you have to be this aggressive dude?Polyspora wrote:
are you guys autistic? it was a joke about the first results being most probably 18+ imagesWinnyace wrote:
Asuna Ichinose? Is she sisters with the queen Rika Ichinose?MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
Also, Asuna as a wallpaper is basedIt's called Google SafeSearch and it is for the kids that don't have parents who control them.Jangsoodlor wrote:
Google CensorshipPolyspora wrote:
MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
I'm calm, I was just uh... flabbergasted by his questionigorsprite wrote:
calm down guysPolyspora wrote:
are you serious right now? brother how did my post hurt you? is being autistic a negative trait for you? to others, it was an exaggerated sincere question.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
Did you have to be this aggressive dude?Polyspora wrote:
are you guys autistic? it was a joke about the first results being most probably 18+ imagesWinnyace wrote:
Asuna Ichinose? Is she sisters with the queen Rika Ichinose?MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
Also, Asuna as a wallpaper is basedIt's called Google SafeSearch and it is for the kids that don't have parents who control them.Jangsoodlor wrote:
Google CensorshipPolyspora wrote:
MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
mmyeah basically this, exaggerated but sincerePolyspora wrote:
are you serious right now? brother how did my post hurt you? is being autistic a negative trait for you? to others, it was an exaggerated sincere question.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
Did you have to be this aggressive dude?Polyspora wrote:
are you guys autistic? it was a joke about the first results being most probably 18+ imagesWinnyace wrote:
It's called Google SafeSearch and it is for the kids that don't have parents who control them.Jangsoodlor wrote:
Google CensorshipPolyspora wrote:
although to explore why this interaction is happening right now, i think there are some possibilities i would note that might explain some things
i can imagine it's possible "is being autistic a negative trait to you?" is a rhetorical and performative question, but in service of taking it sincerely, that doesn't seem remotely likely to be what anyone (and definitely not corne) would mean to say when they're describing your response as aggressive
something doesn't have to damage a person to be considered aggressive, it can merely indicate something like a posture or a type of tonal quality. in my mind, corne probably believed your response was disproportionately reactive, where "are you guys autistic?" would be a semantically roundabout way of performatively offering an explanation for why they're missing the point of your joke. in my opinion, the exaggeration seems like it would serve the purpose of ultimately pointing at their responses as being not just confusing but also somehow unreasonable
if that's true of what you meant, then this can easily be interpreted as an accusatory implication of "you are all being unreasonable/daft", and it's that accusatory tone that people can read as a form of aggression when it could easily have been just a clear and concise neutral correction with "it was a joke about the first results being most probably 18+ images"
I'm actually not hurt, don't worry, but the way you said this first sentence really sounded insulting, and this isn't the kind of behavior I want to see in forumsPolyspora wrote:
are you serious right now? brother how did my post hurt you? is being autistic a negative trait for you? to others, it was an exaggerated sincere question.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
Did you have to be this aggressive dude?Polyspora wrote:
are you guys autistic? it was a joke about the first results being most probably 18+ imagesWinnyace wrote:
Asuna Ichinose? Is she sisters with the queen Rika Ichinose?MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
Also, Asuna as a wallpaper is basedIt's called Google SafeSearch and it is for the kids that don't have parents who control them.Jangsoodlor wrote:
Google CensorshipPolyspora wrote:
MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
This kind of behavior is quite tame on the forums though isn't it?
i think it is, but its relative tameness probably is no longer that relevant anymore to the full composition of people that visit here now, given that newer people probably lack that frame of reference of the forums during the late-00s to mid-10s era anyway. most of the people involved in off-topic culture at the time are no longer here, and with sociocultural phenomena leading a change of average attitude toward online communication in general, it's pretty feasible that being comparably tame wouldn't stop someone else from taking issue with something somewhere, or at least feeling welcome to find fault in itYmir wrote:
This kind of behavior is quite tame on the forums though isn't it?
this isn't the kind of predominant culture of brash levity it used to be... and whether that's fortunate or unfortunate would probably depend to who you're speaking with and what they believe
for the kind of person i am, i prefer it this way, but idk
it's not like people can't playfully exaggerate a little
i just wonder if this example serves that purpose of fun expression in practice and how this would be weighed against the variable interpretations of others, as well as the variable effects of this preference of expression
you're not abraker, you do as your team tells you to do. I hardly believe you got a say on how people should act here, you're just following orders from someone higher on the hierarchy.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
I'm actually not hurt, don't worry, but the way you said this first sentence really sounded insulting, and this isn't the kind of behavior I want to see in forumsPolyspora wrote:
are you serious right now? brother how did my post hurt you? is being autistic a negative trait for you? to others, it was an exaggerated sincere question.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
Did you have to be this aggressive dude?Polyspora wrote:
are you guys autistic? it was a joke about the first results being most probably 18+ imagesWinnyace wrote:
Asuna Ichinose? Is she sisters with the queen Rika Ichinose?MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
Also, Asuna as a wallpaper is basedIt's called Google SafeSearch and it is for the kids that don't have parents who control them.Jangsoodlor wrote:
Google CensorshipPolyspora wrote:
MistressRemilia wrote:
Asuna Ichinose may or may not be the lock screen wallpaper on my phone >_>
that by itself is not a problem, you do what you gotta do I guess, but dont come with "this isnt the kind of behavior I want to see in forums", there is no you in this matter.
have a great day
??? ok now this conversation is escaping me, i know i'm not at all obligated to add anything but i'm starting to think i'm the one that's confused nowPolyspora wrote:
you're not abraker, you do as your team tells you to do. I hardly believe you got a say on how people should act here, you're just following orders from someone higher on the hierarchy.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
I'm actually not hurt, don't worry, but the way you said this first sentence really sounded insulting, and this isn't the kind of behavior I want to see in forumsPolyspora wrote:
are you serious right now? brother how did my post hurt you? is being autistic a negative trait for you? to others, it was an exaggerated sincere question.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
Did you have to be this aggressive dude?Polyspora wrote:
are you guys autistic? it was a joke about the first results being most probably 18+ images
that by itself is not a problem, you do what you gotta do I guess, but dont come with "this isnt the kind of behavior I want to see in forums", there is no you in this matter.
have a great day
is this a genuine assertion that corne can't realistically have an independent opinion from the role the global moderation team plays? is he not possible to separate from the whole of the team by at least some layer of relative autonomy and discretion? i'm not sure how your assertion would be necessarily true... like, is this just a gmt-averse thing or is this actually meant for corne? o.o
i'm certain the power differential is notable here, but i just am completely missing how this is being reflected in current practice in a way that directly necessarily suggests what you're suggesting to be the pov corne is saying this from
or is this akin to something like "you may have your opinion, but don't pretend that you're the same as us or that you aren't under the yoke of the gmt staff regulations and consensus"? in any case, that genuinely does appear a bit interpretably aggressive lol (though i suppose you qualified some statements, cushioning and conditioning the message with some charitability toward corne, although possibly backhanded)
I'm sorry this is just too many words and I'm too tired to read them all now, but from what I read, yeah corne can have his opinion but if we are following the guidelines proposed by the moderation, why should he have the right to impose how I should talk?Achromalia wrote:
??? ok now this conversation is escaping me, i know i'm not at all obligated to add anything but i'm starting to think i'm the one that's confused nowPolyspora wrote:
you're not abraker, you do as your team tells you to do. I hardly believe you got a say on how people should act here, you're just following orders from someone higher on the hierarchy.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
I'm actually not hurt, don't worry, but the way you said this first sentence really sounded insulting, and this isn't the kind of behavior I want to see in forumsPolyspora wrote:
are you serious right now? brother how did my post hurt you? is being autistic a negative trait for you? to others, it was an exaggerated sincere question.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
Did you have to be this aggressive dude?Polyspora wrote:
are you guys autistic? it was a joke about the first results being most probably 18+ images
that by itself is not a problem, you do what you gotta do I guess, but dont come with "this isnt the kind of behavior I want to see in forums", there is no you in this matter.
have a great day
is this a genuine assertion that corne can't realistically have an independent opinion from the role the global moderation team plays? is he not possible to separate from the whole of the team by at least some layer of relative autonomy and discretion? i'm not sure how your assertion would be necessarily true... like, is this just a gmt-averse thing or is this actually meant for corne? o.o
i'm certain the power differential is notable here, but i just am completely missing how this is being reflected in current practice in a way that directly necessarily suggests what you're suggesting to be the pov corne is saying this from
or is this akin to something like "you may have your opinion, but don't pretend that you're the same as us or that you aren't under the yoke of the gmt staff regulations and consensus"? in any case, that genuinely does appear a bit interpretably aggressive lol (though i suppose you qualified some statements, cushioning and conditioning the message with some charitability toward corne, although possibly backhanded)
as I stated before, no harm was intended. well now I know at least who is deleting all my messages without warning
overall, its not a corne problem, its an aversion against gmt's acting like the shadow government and just deleting random stuff like it never happened.
corne was just the punching bag this time for a system I deeply hate. corne is an ok dude.
but do you fear the one who roll rocksPolyspora wrote:
I'm sorry this is just too many words and I'm too tired to read them all now, but from what I read, yeah corne can have his opinion but if we are following the guidelines proposed by the moderation, why should he have the right to impose how I should talk?Achromalia wrote:
??? ok now this conversation is escaping me, i know i'm not at all obligated to add anything but i'm starting to think i'm the one that's confused nowPolyspora wrote:
you're not abraker, you do as your team tells you to do. I hardly believe you got a say on how people should act here, you're just following orders from someone higher on the hierarchy.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
I'm actually not hurt, don't worry, but the way you said this first sentence really sounded insulting, and this isn't the kind of behavior I want to see in forumsPolyspora wrote:
are you serious right now? brother how did my post hurt you? is being autistic a negative trait for you? to others, it was an exaggerated sincere question.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
Did you have to be this aggressive dude?Polyspora wrote:
are you guys autistic? it was a joke about the first results being most probably 18+ images
that by itself is not a problem, you do what you gotta do I guess, but dont come with "this isnt the kind of behavior I want to see in forums", there is no you in this matter.
have a great day
is this a genuine assertion that corne can't realistically have an independent opinion from the role the global moderation team plays? is he not possible to separate from the whole of the team by at least some layer of relative autonomy and discretion? i'm not sure how your assertion would be necessarily true... like, is this just a gmt-averse thing or is this actually meant for corne? o.o
i'm certain the power differential is notable here, but i just am completely missing how this is being reflected in current practice in a way that directly necessarily suggests what you're suggesting to be the pov corne is saying this from
or is this akin to something like "you may have your opinion, but don't pretend that you're the same as us or that you aren't under the yoke of the gmt staff regulations and consensus"? in any case, that genuinely does appear a bit interpretably aggressive lol (though i suppose you qualified some statements, cushioning and conditioning the message with some charitability toward corne, although possibly backhanded)
as I stated before, no harm was intended. well now I know at least who is deleting all my messages without warning
salve stomiks.Kaaruumii wrote:
but do you fear the one who roll rocksPolyspora wrote:
I'm sorry this is just too many words and I'm too tired to read them all now, but from what I read, yeah corne can have his opinion but if we are following the guidelines proposed by the moderation, why should he have the right to impose how I should talk?Achromalia wrote:
??? ok now this conversation is escaping me, i know i'm not at all obligated to add anything but i'm starting to think i'm the one that's confused nowPolyspora wrote:
you're not abraker, you do as your team tells you to do. I hardly believe you got a say on how people should act here, you're just following orders from someone higher on the hierarchy.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
I'm actually not hurt, don't worry, but the way you said this first sentence really sounded insulting, and this isn't the kind of behavior I want to see in forumsPolyspora wrote:
are you serious right now? brother how did my post hurt you? is being autistic a negative trait for you? to others, it was an exaggerated sincere question.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
Did you have to be this aggressive dude?Polyspora wrote:
are you guys autistic? it was a joke about the first results being most probably 18+ images
that by itself is not a problem, you do what you gotta do I guess, but dont come with "this isnt the kind of behavior I want to see in forums", there is no you in this matter.
have a great day
is this a genuine assertion that corne can't realistically have an independent opinion from the role the global moderation team plays? is he not possible to separate from the whole of the team by at least some layer of relative autonomy and discretion? i'm not sure how your assertion would be necessarily true... like, is this just a gmt-averse thing or is this actually meant for corne? o.o
i'm certain the power differential is notable here, but i just am completely missing how this is being reflected in current practice in a way that directly necessarily suggests what you're suggesting to be the pov corne is saying this from
or is this akin to something like "you may have your opinion, but don't pretend that you're the same as us or that you aren't under the yoke of the gmt staff regulations and consensus"? in any case, that genuinely does appear a bit interpretably aggressive lol (though i suppose you qualified some statements, cushioning and conditioning the message with some charitability toward corne, although possibly backhanded)
as I stated before, no harm was intended. well now I know at least who is deleting all my messages without warning
okay, i'm adding more fuel to the fire, i'm aware, but I want to give my two cents about this, wont quote since it's already massive
I'm sorry but this is pure ASS reasoning, the sentence "are you guys autistic?" HAS a negative connotation by itself, it's just how society and language operates, I read that too initially and thought you were being agressive, not because I find autistic to be a negative trait, but because I thought YOU were using it as a negative trait, so shifting the blame onto us is just idiotic
Corne HAS opinion of it's own, i've had too many gov reports about them to really try to deny this point, every GMT operates on their own, they just ask other GMT if there is a more grey situation.
However, let's say you were right, abraker is the only GMT that acts on their own and corne just follows whatever the global team tells them to, why is this better?, why is a single person have total authoritarian power over OT better than having multiple person with diverse opinions?
You're glorifying the old days of OT too much, even in discord now, you've said "ot went to shit after stomiks went away", you keep glorifying abraker as like this god of good and truth in OT, this is not the case, old OT wasn't too different from new OT, what has changed is you, and while i've mentioned this to you in the past and you seem to agree with me, you have not internalized the idea. You can agree with me all that you want, but your actual behaviour isn't changing, so that words are empty
>are you guys autistic? it was a joke about the first results being most probably 18+ images >Did you have to be this aggressive dude? >are you serious right now? brother how did my post hurt you? is being autistic a negative trait for you? to others, it was an exaggerated sincere question."
I'm sorry but this is pure ASS reasoning, the sentence "are you guys autistic?" HAS a negative connotation by itself, it's just how society and language operates, I read that too initially and thought you were being agressive, not because I find autistic to be a negative trait, but because I thought YOU were using it as a negative trait, so shifting the blame onto us is just idiotic
you're not abraker, you do as your team tells you to do. I hardly believe you got a say on how people should act here, you're just following orders from someone higher on the hierarchy.
Corne HAS opinion of it's own, i've had too many gov reports about them to really try to deny this point, every GMT operates on their own, they just ask other GMT if there is a more grey situation.
However, let's say you were right, abraker is the only GMT that acts on their own and corne just follows whatever the global team tells them to, why is this better?, why is a single person have total authoritarian power over OT better than having multiple person with diverse opinions?
You're glorifying the old days of OT too much, even in discord now, you've said "ot went to shit after stomiks went away", you keep glorifying abraker as like this god of good and truth in OT, this is not the case, old OT wasn't too different from new OT, what has changed is you, and while i've mentioned this to you in the past and you seem to agree with me, you have not internalized the idea. You can agree with me all that you want, but your actual behaviour isn't changing, so that words are empty
Jangsoodlor
every thread is poly vs the gmt