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Gov thread (Ruining OT Part #2)

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Patatitta
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Patatitta
again, you're not reporting purely to the gmt, the reports are public to everyone in the parliament, and if the parliament agrees on a outcome, the gmt is kinda forced to follow it as long as they aren't assholes

also, for the guide and stuff, i'm just thinking on entirerily unpinning the art of ot as it doesn't say anything substantial, there is also the idea to update the art of ot but idk if that's going to be the best long-term
Hydreigon
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Hydreigon

Patatitta wrote:

okay, OT, I need opinions


Some of the pinned thread are a mess, mainly The chronicles, The art of OT, and The Royal Directory

The chronicles are basically dead with no one to update it right now, we could update it, but I fear no one honestly even really cares about it anymore?, I don't think many people in OT have actually read it, so it would kinda be just wasted effort

The art of OT is just outdated, a lot of the advice it gives doesn't hold up to 2024 OT, a lot of it is just repeating what the edict said, a lot of sections like the part on how to make friends is kinda weird an I don't know why they exist in the first place, and again, it's a lot more text that new users are supposed to read (because again, no one actually does it)

and for the directory, half of those threads are dead, (red line means dead)



I think this is something we should aim to fix but tbh I haven't got a clear idea on how to do it. There are a couple ideas in the parliament but none of them so far are rock solid, so i'm asking the general public for ideas
The High Tier Echelons of OT

Yeah that can go, an award thread that hasnt been active and havent given out any awards recently.
I guess someone could takeover and try to revive it and give awards, but really other denizens probably have made or will make there own awards.

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Lock records:

Inactive...





Remember when we all counted every locked threads for each Overlord?

Pepperidge farms remembers



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Here ye, here ye!

Inactive, though the idea of logging the governments doing in one thread is not bad.

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Lowest post count:

ay i liked that thread, tried to get it once, but ended up with 21



but yea, bye bye

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Executionary Tales:


old

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OT's Royal Museum of Art

I like this thread, it showcases the different arts of denizens in OT, highlights the art pieces without needing to search and look for it, awards there efforts by there art pieces being in a pinned thread for people to see, and showcases each of the different denizens, who they are and there character they represent at least in some way

Im in favor of keeping but making it exclusive to denizens drawings or art collabs with multiple denizens only, just that too active due to the lack of art pieces being made

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The OT!Chronicles

One thing i planned if win as president was to revive the chronicles, i want it kept and be updated too, with more of the modern happenings around OT, such as games and events and whatnot and keeping some older stuff like, when this certain denizen first arrived and when they become denizen etc

I dont read the entirety of the chronicles cause it being a giant wall of text, but i do use it to fact check or reference old events that happened in the past and the likes by ctrl + f and finding, without needing to use the osu search bar.

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List of mapping drama

Ah cool thread, but not updated due too the absence of abraker and no one caring to update it too much
I guess the reason why its in OT is cause its more so a discussion directed for the denizens of OT, who i think some at the time didnt follow much of the news and happenings around osu.

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OT OVERLORDS




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as for The Art of OT never really payed attention to it and wasnt around when it was made, it is somewhat longer than even discord server rules so... it can go.
Karmine
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Karmine
Gonna try to keep it short.

Pinned:
Keep ITT 2, Shitpost, Library, Directory
Remove Chronicles and Art

Directory:
Keep Eras, Valhalla, Presidents, Events, Denizen, Museum, Chronicles, Overlords
Remove Echelons, Lock, Here ye, Lowest, Execution, Mapping

Idk about keeping Shitpost pinned, it would probably still get posts without being pinned or the posts would move to ITT 2 since they're sometimes kinda the same thing..

Valhalla should have update messages when it's updated though, I thought it was dead.
Overlords are no more but it's part of the history so I think it can stay.
Hydreigon
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Joined February 2020
Hydreigon

Karmine wrote:

Idk about keeping Shitpost pinned, it would probably still get posts without being pinned or the posts would move to ITT 2 since they're sometimes kinda the same thing..
For me personally, the ruling also has been:

Shitpost thread: shitposts


ITT2: Either for the people that: A. Used up there daily thread but want to talk or share about something or
B. People who are too lazy to make a thread

also old denizens tend to appear in that thread from time to time.


And i do think it being pinned does help it garner posts as the posts gap tend to be days long, making it easy to be buried in here, and i think older threads tend to be rarely revived nowadays plus im not sure how many people will try and look for it too.



i do miss thee Yelling Thread
Blushing
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Blushing
In my time here in OT and my longer time in other threads, this is the one subforum that actually reads the pinned posts and takes the time to assess what to post... oddly enough.

I wish there could have been a different "Pinned threads" "Rules and Guidelines" areas so that pinned threads are not cluttering the basic information that people need before posting or during their posting shenanigans.

As for what to keep pinned, I believe that pinned posts should serve a purpose for why they are pinned. If there is a thread that is constantly getting activity that (i.e. SHITPOST) then it serves no purpose to be pinned since it will pop up in the first page of OT almost always.

Threads like "ATTENTION <>FAGS + Others" is one that has relevancy and importance to the ecosystem of the forum, but is notoriously hard to find unless you have it bookmarked.

I think that projects such like OT Library, megacollabs, and (just because it was funny, all the "abraker sings I want it that way or we RIOT Part <x>") like Weekly English Post. Stuff that is time sensitive that garners a lot of reactions to play but may not always get the limelight.

welp... thats my 2c
Blushing
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Blushing
While this will be a double post, they are not exactly the same so I really would like for OT Gov and GMT to consider what is in this post as well.

Patatitta has started off with trying to clean up and modify OT in a way in which sets up future generations success and can lead it onto the right path.

Creating a thread from GMT with the GMT report Link (not abuse@ppy.sh) would be nice. Titling it something that is not obscure and can be known what it is without having to click on the thread. Literally: "Government Complaint Form and Link". While Patatitta did a good job with instating this, this thread will ultimately get thrown into the depths of OT and only be brought up when someone was like "Oh wow didn't know this existed".

I'm not sure if Patatitta and parliament are wanting to create more subsidiaries of using forms and links to "petition" ideas.

I think Art of OT, OT!Chronicles (its already inside of Royal OT Directory), and SHITPOST should be unpinned. Create a new and locked thread with the new GMT/Government abuse form, and create a new pinned thread listing current members of Parliament and President so that people can easily see who they can contact if something is amiss.
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Karmine
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Blushing wrote:

create a new pinned thread listing current members of Parliament and President so that people can easily see who they can contact if something is amiss.
This could be done on this thread's OP if it gets pinned, would make it easy to access government stuff for everyone.
Manishh
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Manishh
@Blushing I personally think 'Shitpost'thread does deserve to be pin, It is similar to G&R 'Post your score here'. The purpose of it is to prevent more shitpost just like how the purpose in gr is to stop threads like 'How is my gameplay' or 'Vod review'
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Blushing
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Blushing

Manishh wrote:

@Blushing I personally think 'Shitpost'thread does deserve to be pin, It is similar to G&R 'Post your score here'. The purpose of it is to prevent more shitpost just like how the purpose in gr is to stop threads like 'How is my gameplay' or 'Vod review'
I see the point. I take "ITT: We post something neither funny or..." as the shitpost thread imo. I dont think it relevant to have two... but I do see the idea behind it.
Manishh
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Manishh
I dont see the point why both "ITT 2: We post shit that is neither funny nor interesting" and "SHITPOST THREAD" are pinned. They are literally used for the same objective, which is to post shit on it
Patatitta
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Patatitta

Manishh wrote:

I dont see the point why both "ITT 2: We post shit that is neither funny nor interesting" and "SHITPOST THREAD" are pinned. They are literally used for the same objective, which is to post shit on it
I personally do agree with you, but even when the thread got changed to schizopost, people just wanted to make the thread the same as always, and even when the option to make it not shitpost but something actually different came up with the poll, people STILL refused, so yeah, I don't we're going to be able to unpin that thread lmao
Patatitta
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Patatitta
Directory and art of ot have been unpinned and replaced by the encyclopedia of OT
Patatitta
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Patatitta
technically triple post but I don't care

We're discussing what to do with denizen, the current problems of denizen are:


-no one actually understand how denizenships works

-no one actually agrees on what denizenship is

-denizens are inconsistent over the ages

-denizenships not being given after the time has past

-generations switching for no reason

-Denizen causes more drama and toxicity than any positive thing, so denizen does more harm than it is good


so, how do we fix this problem?, we're have discussed tings in parliament but I want to hear your general opinion, if you guys can suggest full fledged propositions and not like "I don't like this thing in current system", please do
Ymir
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Not saying that I want this, but I have thought several times about a reality where the parliament doesn't choose Denizenship, but previous Denizens and the community do.
Usually I stop thinking about it because I have no idea how this would work.
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Patatitta
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Patatitta

Ymir wrote:

Not saying that I want this, but I have thought several times about a reality where the parliament doesn't choose Denizenship, but previous Denizens and the community do.
Usually I stop thinking about it because I have no idea how this would work.
I mean the government is all denizens and i'm asking the community so idk what do you mean by that
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Duck o-o
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Patatitta wrote:

technically triple post but I don't care

We're discussing what to do with denizen, the current problems of denizen are:


-no one actually understand how denizenships works

-no one actually agrees on what denizenship is

-denizens are inconsistent over the ages

-denizenships not being given after the time has past

-generations switching for no reason

-Denizen causes more drama and toxicity than any positive thing, so denizen does more harm than it is good


so, how do we fix this problem?, we're have discussed tings in parliament but I want to hear your general opinion, if you guys can suggest full fledged propositions and not like "I don't like this thing in current system", please do
breaking own rules bruh
Ymir
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Patatitta wrote:

Ymir wrote:

Not saying that I want this, but I have thought several times about a reality where the parliament doesn't choose Denizenship, but previous Denizens and the community do.
Usually I stop thinking about it because I have no idea how this would work.
I mean the government is all denizens and i'm asking the community so idk what do you mean by that
Well it's still only the government who makes Denizens, I meant people outside the government have their say on each Denizen too, as opposed to a body of like 4 people.

It's one of the only ways we could make Denizenship free from Drama. Just throwing the idea out there, I'm personally fine with the current method though.
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Manishh
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Ymir wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Ymir wrote:

Not saying that I want this, but I have thought several times about a reality where the parliament doesn't choose Denizenship, but previous Denizens and the community do.
Usually I stop thinking about it because I have no idea how this would work.
I mean the government is all denizens and i'm asking the community so idk what do you mean by that
Well it's still only the government who makes Denizens, I meant people outside the government have their say on each Denizen too, as opposed to a body of like 4 people.

It's one of the only ways we could make Denizenship free from Drama. Just throwing the idea out there, I'm personally fine with the current method though.
A lot of issues with this idea.

1: electing denizenship is the only thing a government do, you are stealing there job

2: Very slow and long process. This is like adding paper work in OT! Waiting for approval of everyone.

3: will need to create its own guidelines. Ex a guy won by just couple votes should be consider denizen or not

4: will lead to inconsistency since a government will announce if there rules or views has change for denizen but public will not do that. You don't know if the criteria for denizenship is even being considered by the voter.
Ymir
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Ymir

Manishh wrote:

Ymir wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Ymir wrote:

Not saying that I want this, but I have thought several times about a reality where the parliament doesn't choose Denizenship, but previous Denizens and the community do.
Usually I stop thinking about it because I have no idea how this would work.
I mean the government is all denizens and i'm asking the community so idk what do you mean by that
Well it's still only the government who makes Denizens, I meant people outside the government have their say on each Denizen too, as opposed to a body of like 4 people.

It's one of the only ways we could make Denizenship free from Drama. Just throwing the idea out there, I'm personally fine with the current method though.
A lot of issues with this idea.

1: electing denizenship is the only thing a government do, you are stealing there job

2: Very slow and long process. This is like adding paper work in OT! Waiting for approval of everyone.

3: will need to create its own guidelines. Ex a guy won by just couple votes should be consider denizen or not

4: will lead to inconsistency since a government will announce if there rules or views has change for denizen but public will not do that. You don't know if the criteria for denizenship is even being considered by the voter.
Hence why I never pushed for a complete democracy system anyway. But if reducing inconsistency and drama is something we are aiming for, then community voice should be considered in some way.

As for stealing your job, that's funny.
Blushing
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Blushing
the main issue is that people still see value in denizenship.

My Rant About it
The change needs to more proactive approach to adding people that meet the "requirements" or whatever you want to call it.

Currently there are like 6(?) dwellers that post and everyone else is denizen, and even less of them care about whatever you government officials are cooking.

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As for changes that affect the ENTIRETY of OT, it should ask all constituents rather than just the "government", the government is in, itself, heavily biased and does not represent the whole of OT and those who post. I can already feel the next question, "Well why would I care about what a 0 post player cares about OT?". Ok why do you care what a denizen who has no "good" posts, broke multiple rules/laws, is generally not able to understand past their own hubris, etc.

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if you want people to give a damn about what you are doing then add more people to denizen, make denizen mean something other than "status"-locked voting that is easily riggable or is completely just a popularity contest... Like IDK: Anonymous voting where only their campaigns are visible and not the username, because being biased is being biased (this is something america should implement).

Addressing Manishh
1. electing denizenship is the only thing a government does? Ok you are the government... do something other than that lol? You guys are the deciders of what you can do. be the change? Idk, very reductive and very american politician (I say all of these things, then nothing is done because I now have the position and will never be impeached)

2. An entire voting of everyone voting for the denizens seems like a good idea. You guys forget that making a post as an official body or through the GMT can and should be done when announcing official change or something like that. I literally dont understand why its a vote of a few people, but the rest of the OT world is unable to put their own opinion (except for when it comes to removing them... apparently).

3. OK THEN STOP BEING LAZY AND MAKE THE GUIDELINES, YOU WANTED THIS POSITION STOP BEING LAZY!

4. Again, criteria for denizenship is hardly objective. So much so that the current president has an entire thread for such a thing, and is actively wanting to change the current system. Voters in other democratic processes don't always know what the person is going for and they are only voting because they like the campaign or because they like the person in general. Being a denizen does nothing passed getting to vote in elections and being able to run, which can be changed on the whim from the president, so idk why it matters.

5. Stop holding a title with no meaning to a higher standard just because you met a post count in a year.
Patatitta
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Patatitta
while I disagree with manishh in the fact that the gov does more things other than adding denizens (manishh should know, they are in the gov and done things other than adding denizens), it's true that pushing actual changes to denizen under that system would be a fucking nightmare

also about what blushing said about denizen, you just REALLY want denizen



anyways, let's not talk too much about the actual gov structure and talk about denizen itself since that is the thing I asked
Manishh
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My response
My first point was a joke guys, come on do I have to put /j

Ymir wrote:

Manishh wrote:

Ymir wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Ymir wrote:

Not saying that I want this, but I have thought several times about a reality where the parliament doesn't choose Denizenship, but previous Denizens and the community do.
Usually I stop thinking about it because I have no idea how this would work.
I mean the government is all denizens and i'm asking the community so idk what do you mean by that
Well it's still only the government who makes Denizens, I meant people outside the government have their say on each Denizen too, as opposed to a body of like 4 people.

It's one of the only ways we could make Denizenship free from Drama. Just throwing the idea out there, I'm personally fine with the current method though.
A lot of issues with this idea.

1: electing denizenship is the only thing a government do, you are stealing there job

2: Very slow and long process. This is like adding paper work in OT! Waiting for approval of everyone.

3: will need to create its own guidelines. Ex a guy won by just couple votes should be consider denizen or not

4: will lead to inconsistency since a government will announce if there rules or views has change for denizen but public will not do that. You don't know if the criteria for denizenship is even being considered by the voter.
Hence why I never pushed for a complete democracy system anyway. But if reducing inconsistency and drama is something we are aiming for, then community voice should be considered in some way.

As for stealing your job, that's funny.
I dont see a reason why it will reduce inconsistency, though I get your point. But in my experience, whenever there have been public talk about denizenship, nothing useful has came out of it and nor will there ever be. When it comes to discussion, everyone is a brick wall, even me.






Blushing wrote:

the main issue is that people still see value in denizenship.

Addressing Manishh
1. electing denizenship is the only thing a government does? Ok you are the government... do something other than that lol? You guys are the deciders of what you can do. be the change? Idk, very reductive and very american politician (I say all of these things, then nothing is done because I now have the position and will never be impeached)

2. An entire voting of everyone voting for the denizens seems like a good idea. You guys forget that making a post as an official body or through the GMT can and should be done when announcing official change or something like that. I literally dont understand why its a vote of a few people, but the rest of the OT world is unable to put their own opinion (except for when it comes to removing them... apparently).

3. OK THEN STOP BEING LAZY AND MAKE THE GUIDELINES, YOU WANTED THIS POSITION STOP BEING LAZY!

4. Again, criteria for denizenship is hardly objective. So much so that the current president has an entire thread for such a thing, and is actively wanting to change the current system. Voters in other democratic processes don't always know what the person is going for and they are only voting because they like the campaign or because they like the person in general. Being a denizen does nothing passed getting to vote in elections and being able to run, which can be changed on the whim from the president, so idk why it matters.

5. Stop holding a title with no meaning to a higher standard just because you met a post count in a year.
1: It was a joke

2: I already stated the cons, the 'few people' are elected by the 'many people' and why is that? It is so actual things happen rather than trying to satisfy every person. And get over it, you didnt even meet the requirement in the first place..

3: The cons are greater than pros, its waste of time in making guideline for such a thing

4: Denizenship was never made to give power, it was a hall of fame, A way of preserving history. It has a value for me, maybe not for you.

5: Why are you even talking about it when you dont see any meaning in it?


"Government should listen to the community"

I dont see a single proposal
Blushing
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Manishh wrote:

1: It was a joke

2: I already stated the cons, the 'few people' are elected by the 'many people' and why is that? It is so actual things happen rather than trying to satisfy every person. And get over it, you didnt even meet the requirement in the first place..

3: The cons are greater than pros, its waste of time in making guideline for such a thing

4: Denizenship was never made to give power, it was a hall of fame, A way of preserving history. It has a value for me, maybe not for you.

5: Why are you even talking about it when you dont see any meaning in it?

"Government should listen to the community"

I dont see a single proposal

A majority of the actives in the subforum simply dont care what happens to OT because not much changes and probably won't.

To continue to address this:

1. joke statement

2. This is when governments then start to do this fun and cool thing called cabinets. Cabinets can help aid the central circle of governments without having to interfere with the main stuff, like policy changes and such. Maybe OT government should delegate certain tasks to people not already holding a position. This might help the feeling that you can't add everyone in the backlog vs. wanting to add those who deserve it.

3. Actually kind of hilarious saying that something is too much work so it will never get done. Creating guidelines and creating statutes so that processes are slow and annoying in the beginning are then easily done in the later lifetime of the government.

4. If it is simply hall of fame type stuff then why are some things locked behind it? There is "inherit" worth in the title, it would help with the misconception of it being about "elevating" someone to a higher prestige and instead could cement that it is simply an award for being recognizable within the community.

5. Because beside me and like 5 other people there is no one caring enough about it. So someone has to.
Patatitta
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Patatitta
uhhh so manishh quitted the parliament and we were only 3 people in parliament (excluding gmts) so we decided to add the next two parliament members that recieved the most votes to replace manishh and also get 5, so yeah, welcome hydreigon and blushing to the parliament (lol)

also kobold said that apparently I can still say the oath and I would have solved every single charge against me so will say it (didn't say it earlier because I thought I had missed my shot lol)


I solemnly swear that I will rightfully execute the Office of President of OT, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the OTConstitution
Reyalp51
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Reyalp51
chat he said the thing are we good now
Lapizote
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Lapizote
another layer added to the parliament drama lore

Hydreigon
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Hydreigon
hi
Ymir
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Ymir

Hydreigon wrote:

hi
government saved
Reyalp51
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Reyalp51

Lapizote wrote:

another layer added to the parliament drama lore

its being a great arc so far ngl
sametdze
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sametdze
has anyone even used the gmt report form? even as a joke?
Ymir
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Ymir
It hasn't been out for too long, break the rules so I can report you and be the first.
Patatitta
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Patatitta

sametdze wrote:

has anyone even used the gmt report form? even as a joke?
yes, it has been used
sametdze
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sametdze

Ymir wrote:

It hasn't been out for too long, break the rules so I can report you and be the first.
am i a gmt?
Ymir
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Ymir

sametdze wrote:

Ymir wrote:

It hasn't been out for too long, break the rules so I can report you and be the first.
am i a gmt?
I'm a restarted
sametdze
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sametdze

Ymir wrote:

sametdze wrote:

Ymir wrote:

It hasn't been out for too long, break the rules so I can report you and be the first.
am i a gmt?
I'm a restarted
acceptance is the first step.
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abraker
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abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

If you've had a thread locked or wastelanded unfairly before, you can use that form to anonymously submit a complain that both the government and the GMT's will check
This content is no longer available.
guys, stop using discord for image hosting
I am going to yeet the next guy who does this
even if it's my past self
Reyalp51
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dont worry abraker i will only use discord to host audio in every thread ever 👍
Manishh
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Patatitta wrote:

uhhh so manishh quitted the parliament and we were only 3 people in parliament (excluding gmts) so we decided to add the next two parliament members that recieved the most votes to replace manishh and also get 5, so yeah, welcome hydreigon and blushing to the parliament (lol)

also kobold said that apparently I can still say the oath and I would have solved every single charge against me so will say it (didn't say it earlier because I thought I had missed my shot lol)


I solemnly swear that I will rightfully execute the Office of President of OT, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the OTConstitution
so you are really putting a non denizen into parliament smeh
NotKal
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Karmine wrote:

We should overthrow the government tbh.
Mother anarchy loves her son, come on the revolution will come!
(Just kidding)
Blushing
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Blushing

Manishh wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

uhhh so manishh quitted the parliament and we were only 3 people in parliament (excluding gmts) so we decided to add the next two parliament members that recieved the most votes to replace manishh and also get 5, so yeah, welcome hydreigon and blushing to the parliament (lol)

also kobold said that apparently I can still say the oath and I would have solved every single charge against me so will say it (didn't say it earlier because I thought I had missed my shot lol)


I solemnly swear that I will rightfully execute the Office of President of OT, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the OTConstitution
so you are really putting a non denizen into parliament smeh
this was a surprise to me as well.
Manishh
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Manishh

Blushing wrote:

Manishh wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

uhhh so manishh quitted the parliament and we were only 3 people in parliament (excluding gmts) so we decided to add the next two parliament members that recieved the most votes to replace manishh and also get 5, so yeah, welcome hydreigon and blushing to the parliament (lol)

also kobold said that apparently I can still say the oath and I would have solved every single charge against me so will say it (didn't say it earlier because I thought I had missed my shot lol)


I solemnly swear that I will rightfully execute the Office of President of OT, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the OTConstitution
so you are really putting a non denizen into parliament smeh
this was a surprise to me as well.
good luck I guess
ShinRun
269 posts
Joined November 2020
ShinRun
You guys might as well rewrite a whole new constitution and rebuild the gov from the bottom up
Asian Warlord
33 posts
Joined November 2020
Asian Warlord
communism
Puck_
254 posts
Joined January 2020
Puck_
blueface babyyyy
Manishh
2,095 posts
Joined October 2020
Manishh

ShinRun wrote:

You guys might as well rewrite a whole new constitution and rebuild the gov from the bottom up
neh man, I dont wanna give such a power to these trolls
Jarcrafted
67 posts
Joined January 2019
Jarcrafted

Karmine wrote:

We should overthrow the government tbh.
Get rid of the government and let anarchy reign!! Post funny posts!!!
Karmine
1,036 posts
Joined November 2015
Karmine

ShinRun wrote:

You guys might as well rewrite a whole new constitution and rebuild the gov from the bottom up
Would make too much sense to do that.
Corne2Plum3
Global Moderator
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Joined November 2019
Corne2Plum3
69th post
Ymir
1,953 posts
Joined June 2020
Ymir

Jarcrafted wrote:

Karmine wrote:

We should overthrow the government tbh.
Get rid of the government and let anarchy reign!! Post funny posts!!!
poocrafted
Patatitta
1,381 posts
Joined February 2020
Topic Starter
Patatitta
--------------- Report ---------------

What happened?: Unfair lock
Link to the post: community/forums/topics/1914597
Which gmt did it?: Corne2Plum3
Why do you think it was unfair?: Nothing happened

--------------- Resolution ---------------

after a discussion featuring blushing, corne, reyalp and kobold, the results were as following:

The thread was clearly opposing OT rules, mainly because of the high quantity of insults starting post 32 of the thread. While not offensive on themselves, they were still against osu! rules and leaving it unlocked would have led to more insults

HOWEVER

Locking the thread was the incorrect action to take in that situation, what should have happened is for the thread to remain unlocked, but to delete all of the offending messages. Corne claims he recognised this and they were just tired, still, locking the thread was better than not taking any action.

The thread will remain locked in it's current state, as reviving the thread currently would serve no purpouse (and because gmts are lazy tbhh), however, this will be the rule going forward, if the thread is just filled by insults, the posts will be deleted, and the thread won't be locked. If you see any thread in the future breaking this rule, feel free to report it.
Corne2Plum3
Global Moderator
1,885 posts
Joined November 2019
Corne2Plum3
I wasn't really tired, I didn't had much time to spend at moderating this weekend
Hydreigon
274 posts
Joined February 2020
Hydreigon

Reyalp51 wrote:

ColdTooth
1,108 posts
Joined June 2012
ColdTooth

Patatitta wrote:

--------------- Report ---------------

What happened?: Unfair lock
Link to the post: community/forums/topics/1914597
Which gmt did it?: Corne2Plum3
Why do you think it was unfair?: Nothing happened

--------------- Resolution ---------------

after a discussion featuring blushing, corne, reyalp and kobold, the results were as following:

The thread was clearly opposing OT rules, mainly because of the high quantity of insults starting post 32 of the thread. While not offensive on themselves, they were still against osu! rules and leaving it unlocked would have led to more insults

HOWEVER

Locking the thread was the incorrect action to take in that situation, what should have happened is for the thread to remain unlocked, but to delete all of the offending messages. Corne claims he recognised this and they were just tired, still, locking the thread was better than not taking any action.

The thread will remain locked in it's current state, as reviving the thread currently would serve no purpouse (and because gmts are lazy tbhh), however, this will be the rule going forward, if the thread is just filled by insults, the posts will be deleted, and the thread won't be locked. If you see any thread in the future breaking this rule, feel free to report it.
my bad on that one chief, i was put in the timeout corner for saying the french was bad, i think the french are cool
sametdze
360 posts
Joined July 2021
sametdze
my bad guys but when i saw that opportunity i had to take it 🙏
Karmine
1,036 posts
Joined November 2015
Karmine

Hydreigon wrote:

Reyalp51 wrote:

Still don't know what that means.
sametdze
360 posts
Joined July 2021
sametdze
he laughed so hard his lungs started to hurt
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Reyalp51
966 posts
Joined April 2021
Reyalp51
My sides are in orbit
Karmine
1,036 posts
Joined November 2015
Karmine

Reyalp51 wrote:

My sides are in orbit
WHAT DOES IT MEAAAAAANNNN?????
Ymir
1,953 posts
Joined June 2020
Ymir
His sides are not on Earth.
Patatitta
1,381 posts
Joined February 2020
Topic Starter
Patatitta
--------------- Report ---------------

What happened?: Thread moved with no reason why
Link to the post: community/forums/topics/1904828?n=1
Which gmt did it?: Corne2Plum3
Why do you think it was unfair?: The thread was fine in OT + the thread was more ITT. Using Corne's logic, all ITTs involving photos would count as surveys

--------------- Resolution ---------------

Patatitta, karmine, reyalp, blushing, and kobold agred that it should be on OT, corne moved it without really giving explanation of why it got moved in the first place
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Manishh
2,095 posts
Joined October 2020
Manishh
hmm its a bit mix, I think the thread can fit in both surveys and OT!
Ymir
1,953 posts
Joined June 2020
Ymir
Jood Gob!
Hydreigon
274 posts
Joined February 2020
Hydreigon
being downgraded from OT to surveys


truly a fate worse than death
Jangsoodlor
613 posts
Joined December 2020
Jangsoodlor
uhh I don't think posting beatmap background should resulted in a thread getting wastelanded.
Kobold84
Global Moderator
1,556 posts
Joined September 2013
Kobold84

Jangsoodlor wrote:

uhh I don't think posting beatmap background should resulted in a thread getting wastelanded.
Didja use the form?
Patatitta
1,381 posts
Joined February 2020
Topic Starter
Patatitta
report recieved, we're talking about it
Patatitta
1,381 posts
Joined February 2020
Topic Starter
Patatitta
--------------- Report ---------------

What happened?: Thread wastelanded unfairly
Link to the post: community/forums/topics/1931079
Which gmt did it?: Not known
Why do you think it was unfair?: They're osu BGs and it should be allowed in OT

--------------- Resolution ---------------

Everyone but karmine agrees to reviving the thread, the thread has been revived
Hydreigon
274 posts
Joined February 2020
Hydreigon
didnt know Not known was secretly a mod and locks threads around here
Karmine
1,036 posts
Joined November 2015
Karmine
Didn't blushing say he was against it or did I misunderstand?
Patatitta
1,381 posts
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Topic Starter
Patatitta

Karmine wrote:

Didn't blushing say he was against it or did I misunderstand?
they said that reviving was fine but the moment they get too out of line to blow up jangsoodlor head with a revolver
Karmine
1,036 posts
Joined November 2015
Karmine

Patatitta wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Didn't blushing say he was against it or did I misunderstand?
they said that reviving was fine but the moment they get too out of line to blow up jangsoodlor head with a revolver
Can't wait!
Patatitta
1,381 posts
Joined February 2020
Topic Starter
Patatitta
--------------- Report ---------------

What happened?: Unfair lock
Link to the post: community/forums/topics/1934925?n=1
Which gmt did it?: Unknown
Why do you think it was unfair?: Nothing happened

--------------- Resolution ---------------

Reyalp created the thread with the intention of it being locked by blushing, the thread got locked by blushing, therefore, it has achieves it's goal. Reyalp is also a member of the parliament so they confirmed it

no actions taken
Reyalp51
966 posts
Joined April 2021
Reyalp51
"the thread got locked by blushing"
Which gmt did it?: Unknown

Karmine
1,036 posts
Joined November 2015
Karmine

Reyalp51 wrote:

"the thread got locked by blushing"
Which gmt did it?: Unknown

It's probably him though, others tend to post when they lock.
Patatitta
1,381 posts
Joined February 2020
Topic Starter
Patatitta
--------------- Report ---------------

What happened?: Unfair Wasteland
Link to the post: community/forums/topics/1940156?n=1
Which gmt did it?: Unknown
Why do you think it was unfair?: Nothing happened

--------------- Resolution ---------------

honestly we have no fucking clue why this was deleted, apparently it was deleted by abraker, abraker gave permission to restore it, but have yet to clarify why it was deleted, everyone in the gov agreed so it was restored.
Polyspora
475 posts
Joined September 2019
Polyspora

Patatitta wrote:

--------------- Report ---------------

What happened?: Unfair Wasteland
Link to the post: community/forums/topics/1940156?n=1
Which gmt did it?: Unknown
Why do you think it was unfair?: Nothing happened

--------------- Resolution ---------------

honestly we have no fucking clue why this was deleted, apparently it was deleted by abraker, abraker gave permission to restore it, but have yet to clarify why it was deleted, everyone in the gov agreed so it was restored.
oh he just said something like "will the government forgive me if I delete this?"
Ashton
2,039 posts
Joined February 2016
Ashton
A GMT a using powers with no justification.... in other news, grass is green.

(This is a joke don't ban me)
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Polyspora
475 posts
Joined September 2019
Polyspora

Ashton wrote:

A GMT a using powers with no justification.... in other news, grass is green.

(This is a joke don't ban me)
the irony
Patatitta
1,381 posts
Joined February 2020
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Polyspora wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

--------------- Report ---------------

What happened?: Unfair Wasteland
Link to the post: community/forums/topics/1940156?n=1
Which gmt did it?: Unknown
Why do you think it was unfair?: Nothing happened

--------------- Resolution ---------------

honestly we have no fucking clue why this was deleted, apparently it was deleted by abraker, abraker gave permission to restore it, but have yet to clarify why it was deleted, everyone in the gov agreed so it was restored.
oh he just said something like "will the government forgive me if I delete this?"
nope, he just thought it should be deleted but he doesn't have a strong enough opinion to oppose it being restored, he just doesn't give a shit
Polyspora
475 posts
Joined September 2019
Polyspora

Patatitta wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

--------------- Report ---------------

What happened?: Unfair Wasteland
Link to the post: community/forums/topics/1940156?n=1
Which gmt did it?: Unknown
Why do you think it was unfair?: Nothing happened

--------------- Resolution ---------------

honestly we have no fucking clue why this was deleted, apparently it was deleted by abraker, abraker gave permission to restore it, but have yet to clarify why it was deleted, everyone in the gov agreed so it was restored.
oh he just said something like "will the government forgive me if I delete this?"
nope, he just thought it should be deleted but he doesn't have a strong enough opinion to oppose it being restored, he just doesn't give a shit
? are you denying that he actually said that? its literally on the thread
Kaaruumii
860 posts
Joined November 2021
Kaaruumii

Patatitta wrote:

--------------- Report ---------------

What happened?: Unfair Wasteland
Link to the post: community/forums/topics/1940156?n=1
Which gmt did it?: Unknown
Why do you think it was unfair?: Nothing happened

--------------- Resolution ---------------

honestly we have no fucking clue why this was deleted, apparently it was deleted by abraker, abraker gave permission to restore it, but have yet to clarify why it was deleted, everyone in the gov agreed so it was restored.



UwUpsie sweems wike yow thwead gwot wastelanded two da fuzzy wuzzy dwepths two ouwr fwun dwungeon dwesu~... pwease cwall wus wagain two wet wus knwow wen youw ware wavailable UwU!!!
abraker
Global Moderator
8,356 posts
Joined July 2014
abraker

Kaaruumii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

--------------- Report ---------------

What happened?: Unfair Wasteland
Link to the post: community/forums/topics/1940156?n=1
Which gmt did it?: Unknown
Why do you think it was unfair?: Nothing happened

--------------- Resolution ---------------

honestly we have no fucking clue why this was deleted, apparently it was deleted by abraker, abraker gave permission to restore it, but have yet to clarify why it was deleted, everyone in the gov agreed so it was restored.



UwUpsie sweems wike yow thwead gwot wastelanded two da fuzzy wuzzy dwepths two ouwr fwun dwungeon dwesu~... pwease cwall wus wagain two wet wus knwow wen youw ware wavailable UwU!!!
^ lmao what this guy sayd
Patatitta
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Joined February 2020
Topic Starter
Patatitta
--------------- Report ---------------

What happened?: Unfair Wasteland
Link to the post: community/forums/topics/1940156?n=1
Which gmt did it?: Unknown
Why do you think it was unfair?: Nothing happened

--------------- Resolution ---------------

Corne deleted it with the idea that people may not realize it's a shitpost and actually post themselves in that thread, blushing then added to this saying people may do really edgy jokes which are inapropiate for the osu forums or even post CP

Patatita, reyalp, Hidreigon, and blushing supported restoring the thread, however, blushing was kinda worried about it going badly, and karmine opposed it on grounds it is a pretty shitty thread

In addition to that, corne opposed the restoring to the thead (they even tried to hard veto this thread beign restored!) but abraker gave us the ok

after a (really) long discussion, we've decided to restore the original thread but with the OP changed, so people won't get confused, just try to behave okay?

also, if anyone is confused by this



just ignore him :)
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Karmine
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Joined November 2015
Karmine
Thread bad.
Reyalp51
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Joined April 2021
Reyalp51
we fighting for free speech mate
Ymir
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Joined June 2020
Ymir
This sucks, bring back unfairly wastelanding with no chance of appeal! OT has truly gone soft and WOKE!
sametdze
360 posts
Joined July 2021
sametdze
biggest W in sametdze history i love you patatitta
Polyspora
475 posts
Joined September 2019
Polyspora

Ymir wrote:

This sucks, bring back unfairly wastelanding with no chance of appeal! OT has truly gone soft and WOKE!
WOOOOOOOOOOOKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
Lapizote
121 posts
Joined January 2016
Lapizote

Polyspora wrote:

Ymir wrote:

This sucks, bring back unfairly wastelanding with no chance of appeal! OT has truly gone soft and WOKE!
WOOOOOOOOOOOKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
goddamn l'b'r'ls ruining OT and its Americhun values!!!
Jangsoodlor
613 posts
Joined December 2020
Jangsoodlor
is ti still a thing?
Karmine
1,036 posts
Joined November 2015
Karmine
Yes.
Ymir
1,953 posts
Joined June 2020
Ymir
communist thread this thread is communist anything I don't like is commie
Reyalp51
966 posts
Joined April 2021
Reyalp51
sorry i tried
Patatitta
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Topic Starter
Patatitta
--------------- Report ---------------

What happened?: Unfair Wasteland
Link to the post: community/forums/topics/1959404
Which gmt did it?: Unknown
Why do you think it was unfair?: ppl posts about "it" all the time in OT since pre-history


--------------- Resolution ---------------

this is literally a bait thread aiming for the GMTs, just including a search query for the word "cum" inside OT, the thread got wastelanded due to GMT not wanting discussions about the usage of the word cum, there is a universal concensus in the government to keep it wastelanded, the only one that really tried protesting it was reyalp who found it funny but didn't think it was a thread worth fighting over.

also, for clarification, the word cum is alright, a thread like that, isn't
Ashton
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Joined February 2016
Ashton
Wait we can say cum?
Patatitta
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Joined February 2020
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Ashton wrote:

Wait we can say cum?
yes
igorsprite
623 posts
Joined September 2015
igorsprite

Patatitta wrote:

Ashton wrote:

Wait we can say cum?
yes
cum
Manishh
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Joined October 2020
Manishh
why is the word cum alright?
ShinRun
269 posts
Joined November 2020
ShinRun
So is it alright to say “I love cumming”
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