you could advertise but that could get annoying quickly
i dunno how familiar you are with the whole course of the terminal text adventure thread, but that thread only survived because of like three people who managed to get it to its conclusion. in fact, i'm pretty sure it actually died before someone came back and revived it to finish itRigbyuis wrote:
i got fucking blushed while reading this
do a pretty big RPG thingy that is a mix with a terminal text adventure, would b fun imo
i agree with your whole argument, but the rewards point should not be money, since lots of people will get to participate on the thread only for it, which depending on how the event develops, can ruin the experience for the other people. there is a big example not in here but in FG which even if it's fun it's starting to become in thread necromancy v2octowave wrote:
3. rewards (polyspora's mapping competition, pretty much any competition in general really)
so unless you manage to tick any of those boxes - or your plot intrigues people enough to keep going despite it - your rpg has a pretty high chance of dying out at some point
i've actually been spending my time not posting threads by devising a system that could tick that first box so i'm able to tell a coherent narrative, though the only thread i actually want to do that for is coming in... about 7/8 months and that's if i can actually will myself to do anything :7
tbf i probably could've clarified better, but what i meant by rewards is basically any kind of "you get a thing from this", so it also applies to things like collabs *gesturing towards my ot!collab threads* or drawing request threads, etc yk. competitions were just the best example of threads that specifically fall under that and that onlyRigbyuis wrote:
i agree with your whole argument, but the rewards point should not be money, since lots of people will get to participate on the thread only for it, which depending on how the event develops, can ruin the experience for the other people. there is a big example not in here but in FG which even if it's fun it's starting to become in thread necromancy v2octowave wrote:
3. rewards (polyspora's mapping competition, pretty much any competition in general really)
so unless you manage to tick any of those boxes - or your plot intrigues people enough to keep going despite it - your rpg has a pretty high chance of dying out at some point
i've actually been spending my time not posting threads by devising a system that could tick that first box so i'm able to tell a coherent narrative, though the only thread i actually want to do that for is coming in... about 7/8 months and that's if i can actually will myself to do anything :7
i'm not talking about making a good thread. the terminal text adventure is a good thread, it just suffered from a community that doesn't respond well to that kind of format. unpopular doesn't equal badPatatitta wrote:
I feel we're ignoring the ot book here, it's high effort, it requires a lot to participate on it, no rewards, but still works
I feel we're labbing this too much, do we really want a formula on how to make a good thread?, a formula that other people will copy, leading to probably the same type of threads over and over again, like the thing we're complaining here?
also i literally acknowledged the ot!book in the "community/collaboration" criteria. that's the reason why the ot!book works. it's a community/collaborative project. my entire point is that if a thread is at least one of the three, then it has a significantly higher chance at survivingoctowave wrote:
2. community/collaboration (ot!book, padoru invasion, the christmas tree drawing)
octowave wrote:
i'm not talking about making a good thread. the terminal text adventure is a good thread, it just suffered from a community that doesn't respond well to that kind of format. unpopular doesn't equal badPatatitta wrote:
I feel we're ignoring the ot book here, it's high effort, it requires a lot to participate on it, no rewards, but still works
I feel we're labbing this too much, do we really want a formula on how to make a good thread?, a formula that other people will copy, leading to probably the same type of threads over and over again, like the thing we're complaining here?
what i'm talking about is making a thread that lasts in the long term, and the stuff i discussed is pretty broad when you actually think about it, especially when you can mix and match whatever you want. it's like if you pointed at game design advice and claimed it's going to restrict the kinds of games people can make to the point that everything is the same, when it's just stuff like... telling you to spawn the player in facing the direction they need to go :7also i literally acknowledged the ot!book in the "community/collaboration" criteria. that's the reason why the ot!book works. it's a community/collaborative project. my entire point is that if a thread is at least one of the three, then it has a significantly higher chance at survivingoctowave wrote:
2. community/collaboration (ot!book, padoru invasion, the christmas tree drawing)
>>
this wasn't even meant for all threads in general. this was specifically meant to be advice for rigbiyus' rpg idea based on my own observations, even if it could be applied to other threads. whatever, i don't feel like repeating myself over and over again if this ends up going in that direction. i said what i wanted to say (and rigbiyus, if you wanna work together on that rpg idea, i'm willing)
personally, if i spent a load of time on a thread, i'd like to give it the best chance possible that everyone actually gets to experience all of itPatatitta wrote:
octowave wrote:
i'm not talking about making a good thread. the terminal text adventure is a good thread, it just suffered from a community that doesn't respond well to that kind of format. unpopular doesn't equal badPatatitta wrote:
I feel we're ignoring the ot book here, it's high effort, it requires a lot to participate on it, no rewards, but still works
I feel we're labbing this too much, do we really want a formula on how to make a good thread?, a formula that other people will copy, leading to probably the same type of threads over and over again, like the thing we're complaining here?
what i'm talking about is making a thread that lasts in the long term, and the stuff i discussed is pretty broad when you actually think about it, especially when you can mix and match whatever you want. it's like if you pointed at game design advice and claimed it's going to restrict the kinds of games people can make to the point that everything is the same, when it's just stuff like... telling you to spawn the player in facing the direction they need to go :7also i literally acknowledged the ot!book in the "community/collaboration" criteria. that's the reason why the ot!book works. it's a community/collaborative project. my entire point is that if a thread is at least one of the three, then it has a significantly higher chance at survivingoctowave wrote:
2. community/collaboration (ot!book, padoru invasion, the christmas tree drawing)
>>
this wasn't even meant for all threads in general. this was specifically meant to be advice for rigbiyus' rpg idea based on my own observations, even if it could be applied to other threads. whatever, i don't feel like repeating myself over and over again if this ends up going in that direction. i said what i wanted to say (and rigbiyus, if you wanna work together on that rpg idea, i'm willing)
still, dont really think about it that much, just do it tbh, if it fails, whatever, next thread will do better, if not, congrats, this is ot, not every thread must be succesful, it's just how it operates, focus less on trying to get other people on this subforum hooked and more in the actual thread, what I mean is that we dont need game design at all, the less you think on that stuff, and the more stuff you directly unfiltered from yourself, better
Even though you don't have much experience with OT, you're pretty much spot on.Kobold84 wrote:
It takes two people to make a good thread. You don't need exemplary never-seen-before ideas to make a fun thread, just something other people can bounce off easily. Basically, just involve people into what you're doing.
Well... actually I don't have much experience with OT in particular, maybe what you need is something else, but that worked for other forums I frequented.
A formula or permanent solution is not what I'm looking for here, I'm referring to a forum-wide project in the near future which has a decent standing within a broader osu! community, or the forum community at the very least. Even if we don't accomplish that, at least something to show for our community, a masterpiece that represents who we are.Patatitta wrote:
I feel we're ignoring the ot book here, it's high effort, it requires a lot to participate on it, no rewards, but still works
I feel we're labbing this too much, do we really want a formula on how to make a good thread?, a formula that other people will copy, leading to probably the same type of threads over and over again, like the thing we're complaining here?
Pretty much the OT Model here.octowave wrote:
as much as people want there to be massive HiGh-EFfOrT threads, if it takes too much effort to participate in, it will most likely die. i've found successful threads tend to come from one - or a combination of - three things:
1. simple to participate in (in terms of puzzles and stuff, the solutions can't be too obscure/no complex character creation if neither of the below two apply to the thread idea/only needing to type "/in" to participate like in those tournament threads/etc.)
2. community/collaboration (ot!book, padoru invasion, the christmas tree drawing)
3. rewards (polyspora's mapping competition, pretty much any competition in general really)
Church of Hatsune Miku?Kobold84 wrote:
I like this idea, the church of OT has some potential to it. Now, we only have to find a god to worship and it's a done deal. Any volunteers?Stomiks wrote:
How about we become like the christian missionaries and spread the word of OT all over the forum
That does not change much, there are a lot of ways to make these type of threads workable for non gmt[ Sebastian ] wrote:
I'm not trying to fight you or anything, but most of those threads you listed were made by either a GMT or the OT parliament. Not the normal oldfag.Manishh wrote:
There is definitely influence of nostalgia. Though, its true that old OT! was arguably better. Look at those olds thread, they are faaaaarr better than any threads right now.Rigbyuis wrote:
we shouldn't be allowing oldfags to have influence in what we think of our own gen.
i have never understood why this whole idea of "Old OT good new OT bad" has so much validation, but because of it it has finally been getting to its last consequences
Some of the old threadsI do agree that this new gen lack role play a lot. RP is what make this community
- ATTENTION Newfags, Midfags, Oldfags, and Otherfags!!!
- The OT!Chronicles
- OT's Royal Museum of Art
- OT! Bingo
- Elections
and many more. I have seen no thread in my time in OT!, which can compete with these threads
thats not what they told usShinRun wrote:
Quality and quantity won’t dictate a generation’s success and vice versa.
the mapping contest is an example.Rigbyuis wrote:
i agree with your whole argument, but the rewards point should not be money, since lots of people will get to participate on the thread only for it, which depending on how the event develops, can ruin the experience for the other people. there is a big example not in here but in FG which even if it's fun it's starting to become in thread necromancy v2octowave wrote:
3. rewards (polyspora's mapping competition, pretty much any competition in general really)
so unless you manage to tick any of those boxes - or your plot intrigues people enough to keep going despite it - your rpg has a pretty high chance of dying out at some point
i've actually been spending my time not posting threads by devising a system that could tick that first box so i'm able to tell a coherent narrative, though the only thread i actually want to do that for is coming in... about 7/8 months and that's if i can actually will myself to do anything :7
I think that they should've waited till the very end of gen 9 to add the description. But like Remi said, the description isn't that big of a deal.Polyspora wrote:
thats not what they told usShinRun wrote:
Quality and quantity won’t dictate a generation’s success and vice versa.
listen shin, just leave the description pending for now, we dont want something special in caps and bold, just something that makes sense to us, why dont you ask people what is the thing that they remember the most from last year? since last year was basically gen 9 year
think harder, ancient oneColdTooth wrote:
i think you guys should uhhh
i'unno, im not smart
i wasn't gonna post this cause i thought i'd look like a hypocrite but ^^^ShinRun wrote:
Something that gen 9 should know is that this generation is already doing really well, like extremely well. The amount of denizen that this generation will close out at is probably close or even surpass the number of gen 7, and in term of “quality” threads, you guys have already doubled or tripled the amount of flying horseshit in gen 8. However does that mean gen 9 is better than gen 8? Objectively yes if we are only looking at statistics and the forum but it’s more subjective than just the forum.
Gen 9 thrive well in an individualistic environment, every denizen in gen 9 can stand one it’s two (or more) feet if the rest of the generation disappeared. Gen 8 on the other hand, we would fucking crumble. This is because we spend so much time together, we use to host fun game nights, karaoke and a shit ton of discord event.
Quality and quantity won’t dictate a generation’s success and vice versa.
Also everyone has a bias so they obviously believe their generation are more exciting or entertaining due to nostalgia or other feelings, so if you ever see someone talking about how their generation is better, just ignore them.
DAS WHAT IM SAAAYIIIIING THE GOAAAAToctowave wrote:
i wasn't gonna post this cause i thought i'd look like a hypocrite but ^^^ShinRun wrote:
Something that gen 9 should know is that this generation is already doing really well, like extremely well. The amount of denizen that this generation will close out at is probably close or even surpass the number of gen 7, and in term of “quality” threads, you guys have already doubled or tripled the amount of flying horseshit in gen 8. However does that mean gen 9 is better than gen 8? Objectively yes if we are only looking at statistics and the forum but it’s more subjective than just the forum.
Gen 9 thrive well in an individualistic environment, every denizen in gen 9 can stand one it’s two (or more) feet if the rest of the generation disappeared. Gen 8 on the other hand, we would fucking crumble. This is because we spend so much time together, we use to host fun game nights, karaoke and a shit ton of discord event.
Quality and quantity won’t dictate a generation’s success and vice versa.
Also everyone has a bias so they obviously believe their generation are more exciting or entertaining due to nostalgia or other feelings, so if you ever see someone talking about how their generation is better, just ignore them.
fuck what older gens say. fuck the weird elitist narrative surrounding "quality" and the entire current denizenship system. do whatever the hell you want
now i'm done posting here. you've all somehow managed to outdo me in fearing irrelevency and failure, and i'm the guy who made an entire model to ensure a hypothetical thread's survival
my offer still stands on helping with that rpg thread, btw. i'd love to write something that isn't just fanfic or some other off-forum projectRigbyuis wrote:
DAS WHAT IM SAAAYIIIIING THE GOAAAAToctowave wrote:
i wasn't gonna post this cause i thought i'd look like a hypocrite but ^^^ShinRun wrote:
Something that gen 9 should know is that this generation is already doing really well, like extremely well. The amount of denizen that this generation will close out at is probably close or even surpass the number of gen 7, and in term of “quality” threads, you guys have already doubled or tripled the amount of flying horseshit in gen 8. However does that mean gen 9 is better than gen 8? Objectively yes if we are only looking at statistics and the forum but it’s more subjective than just the forum.
Gen 9 thrive well in an individualistic environment, every denizen in gen 9 can stand one it’s two (or more) feet if the rest of the generation disappeared. Gen 8 on the other hand, we would fucking crumble. This is because we spend so much time together, we use to host fun game nights, karaoke and a shit ton of discord event.
Quality and quantity won’t dictate a generation’s success and vice versa.
Also everyone has a bias so they obviously believe their generation are more exciting or entertaining due to nostalgia or other feelings, so if you ever see someone talking about how their generation is better, just ignore them.
fuck what older gens say. fuck the weird elitist narrative surrounding "quality" and the entire current denizenship system. do whatever the hell you want
now i'm done posting here. you've all somehow managed to outdo me in fearing irrelevency and failure, and i'm the guy who made an entire model to ensure a hypothetical thread's survival
Sounds good, glad I have your back. If you can think of cool projects that are out of the box, go ahead without me.octowave wrote:
my offer still stands on helping with that rpg thread, btw. i'd love to write something that isn't just fanfic or some other off-forum projectRigbyuis wrote:
DAS WHAT IM SAAAYIIIIING THE GOAAAAToctowave wrote:
i wasn't gonna post this cause i thought i'd look like a hypocrite but ^^^ShinRun wrote:
Something that gen 9 should know is that this generation is already doing really well, like extremely well. The amount of denizen that this generation will close out at is probably close or even surpass the number of gen 7, and in term of “quality” threads, you guys have already doubled or tripled the amount of flying horseshit in gen 8. However does that mean gen 9 is better than gen 8? Objectively yes if we are only looking at statistics and the forum but it’s more subjective than just the forum.
Gen 9 thrive well in an individualistic environment, every denizen in gen 9 can stand one it’s two (or more) feet if the rest of the generation disappeared. Gen 8 on the other hand, we would fucking crumble. This is because we spend so much time together, we use to host fun game nights, karaoke and a shit ton of discord event.
Quality and quantity won’t dictate a generation’s success and vice versa.
Also everyone has a bias so they obviously believe their generation are more exciting or entertaining due to nostalgia or other feelings, so if you ever see someone talking about how their generation is better, just ignore them.
fuck what older gens say. fuck the weird elitist narrative surrounding "quality" and the entire current denizenship system. do whatever the hell you want
now i'm done posting here. you've all somehow managed to outdo me in fearing irrelevency and failure, and i'm the guy who made an entire model to ensure a hypothetical thread's survival
I’m sorry poly but I only write description for the denizens, not the generation. That responsibility still fall onto abraker.[ Sebastian ] wrote:
I think that they should've waited till the very end of gen 9 to add the description. But like Remi said, the description isn't that big of a deal.Polyspora wrote:
thats not what they told usShinRun wrote:
Quality and quantity won’t dictate a generation’s success and vice versa.
listen shin, just leave the description pending for now, we dont want something special in caps and bold, just something that makes sense to us, why dont you ask people what is the thing that they remember the most from last year? since last year was basically gen 9 year
I'll re-edit the description if the meta changes, but that's what I see the gen shaping up to be right now.ShinRun wrote:
I’m sorry poly but I only write description for the denizens, not the generation. That responsibility still fall onto abraker.[ Sebastian ] wrote:
I think that they should've waited till the very end of gen 9 to add the description. But like Remi said, the description isn't that big of a deal.Polyspora wrote:
thats not what they told usShinRun wrote:
Quality and quantity won’t dictate a generation’s success and vice versa.
listen shin, just leave the description pending for now, we dont want something special in caps and bold, just something that makes sense to us, why dont you ask people what is the thing that they remember the most from last year? since last year was basically gen 9 year
Each gen has its select denizens that carry the quality of OT on their backs. Except gen 5, that gen was awful.ShinRun wrote:
Something that gen 9 should know is that this generation is already doing really well, like extremely well. The amount of denizen that this generation will close out at is probably close or even surpass the number of gen 7, and in term of “quality” threads, you guys have already doubled or tripled the amount of flying horseshit in gen 8. However does that mean gen 9 is better than gen 8? Objectively yes if we are only looking at statistics and the forum but it’s more subjective than just the forum.
what about gen 5?abraker wrote:
Each gen has its select denizens that carry the quality of OT on their backs. Except gen 5, that gen was awful.ShinRun wrote:
Something that gen 9 should know is that this generation is already doing really well, like extremely well. The amount of denizen that this generation will close out at is probably close or even surpass the number of gen 7, and in term of “quality” threads, you guys have already doubled or tripled the amount of flying horseshit in gen 8. However does that mean gen 9 is better than gen 8? Objectively yes if we are only looking at statistics and the forum but it’s more subjective than just the forum.
Everyone posted low quality like Meah / Scyla or never made threads. Wolfette threads were never appropriate. I guess DJ Enetro carried that gen, maybe he better belongs in gen 4. It was known as the OTpression era for a reasonz0z wrote:
what about gen 5?abraker wrote:
Each gen has its select denizens that carry the quality of OT on their backs. Except gen 5, that gen was awful.ShinRun wrote:
Something that gen 9 should know is that this generation is already doing really well, like extremely well. The amount of denizen that this generation will close out at is probably close or even surpass the number of gen 7, and in term of “quality” threads, you guys have already doubled or tripled the amount of flying horseshit in gen 8. However does that mean gen 9 is better than gen 8? Objectively yes if we are only looking at statistics and the forum but it’s more subjective than just the forum.
Everybody seems to forget the Padoru rp. It was pretty grand, with a good chunk of it being carried by gen 9 peeps like Remi-, Poly, and Scyla.[ Sebastian ] wrote:
Well, even if gen 9 isn't known as an active generation. Heck, even if it's known as the worst generation, you will still be remembered by your own contributions by future Dwellers and people who just stop by for some reason. Plus, it's essentially just a glorified online message board.Polyspora wrote:
seems like scyla threads and random metas made more impact than political parties and discussions about the future of denizenship and the meaning of being a denizen, truly a moment.-Remi wrote:
abraker wrote:
9th gen finally has a description \:D/This is so sad, our efforts to shape this generation out to be a good one has been in vain.Polyspora wrote:
well I would feel less offended if you just typed shitty generation but "lesser happenings" is fine
I kind of thought we were the worst gen for some reason. I guess hearing about how OT was better back then and the weird metas shaped my mind into thinking that.ShinRun wrote:
Something that gen 9 should know is that this generation is already doing really well, like extremely well. The amount of denizen that this generation will close out at is probably close or even surpass the number of gen 7, and in term of “quality” threads, you guys have already doubled or tripled the amount of flying horseshit in gen 8. However does that mean gen 9 is better than gen 8? Objectively yes if we are only looking at statistics and the forum but it’s more subjective than just the forum.
maybe if previous generations didn't tout themselves as the peak of quality all the time, and fear-mongered about ot dying every other month, things would be differentManishh wrote:
Thank god you guys didn't put me in gen9, when I requested.
Man this gen is gonna be troublesome, or is it history just repeating itself. I need to do research on it
This all depend on how people look at it.[ Sebastian ] wrote:
I kind of thought we were the worst gen for some reason. I guess hearing about how OT was better back then and the weird metas shaped my mind into thinking that.ShinRun wrote:
Something that gen 9 should know is that this generation is already doing really well, like extremely well. The amount of denizen that this generation will close out at is probably close or even surpass the number of gen 7, and in term of “quality” threads, you guys have already doubled or tripled the amount of flying horseshit in gen 8. However does that mean gen 9 is better than gen 8? Objectively yes if we are only looking at statistics and the forum but it’s more subjective than just the forum.
I am pretty sure Rules for Voting is held by the OT! Rule Book-Remi wrote:
There were rules in OT?