CucumberCuc wrote:

Hi :3

00:34:998 and 00:35:380 may be add circles? i agree with the 2nd, the 1st one is barely hearable so no circle there imo
02:34:616 to 02:34:807 add slider? did circle on the strong sound, think it fits better than slider
04:49:043 (1,2,3,4,1) you can try to go to music and delete 2 and 4 circles, can be obtained good
04:56:686 (1,2,3,4,1) ^
04:58:215 (1,2,3,4,1) ^ um.., i think they stil represent the continious 1/4 rhythm right there, so ill keep them
Nothing more

Nice song
GL :3

thank you for mod

1. 00:38:724 (4) - why not convert this single circle to a slider? It would close the big gap a little and it fits to the vocals. End it here if you consider to do so 00:39:488 For its shape how about using the one befor and just stretch it a bit? https://puu.sh/vqtXG/2c17c5df49.png
   
2. 00:49:234 (3,4) - beeing really picky here but imo this one should be a roated version of those 00:43:119 (2,3) - (copy paste then CTRL + , them once and place the copied circle where 00:49:234 (3) - was
   
3. 01:32:992 (3) - Make this one in direction of your flow (for example just CTRL + J like https://puu.sh/vqAki/7fa0b3f1a6.png Its still in the playfield that way)
   
4. 01:48:660 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - in that part are several outstanding vocals. You mapped sliders to those vocals. Think about doing the jumps instead of the sliders. It will emphasize the vocals even better since they are outstanding there. If you are thinking about doing it, you can just delete 01:48:851 (3,4) - and then move everything afterwards untill 01:51:240 (7) - two ticks earlier https://puu.sh/vqB88/db31a07581.png also considder doing a jump here too 01:50:953 (4) -
   Iknow, it need a bit of remapping of that part but if you move it in the timeline its not that critical i think.
   
5. 02:37:960 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - guess you would have to do the same as above here too
   
   (okai that part is going to be like this a lot so a change would be quiet some time i think.)
   
6. 03:46:750 (1) - this was a bit confusing in my first play. Maybe think haveing the path visually more clear. (but maybe i was just bad well i slider broke on it :'D) like so maybe: https://puu.sh/vqBIZ/95d7094ba5.png
   
7. 03:57:355 - maybe make this clickable?
   
8. 05:07:004 - you have a spinner here at the end. Wouldn't it be cooler if you would have had the exact same slider from the start here? 00:05:093 (4,1,2,3) - just flipped? (CTRL + J)

Zunv wrote:

Hey NM from #modreqs

Keep in mind im still kinda new to everything so don't expect a great mod here. I still hope some parts will help you out

Unbound by Fate

1. 00:38:724 (4) - why not convert this single circle to a slider? It would close the big gap a little and it fits to the vocals. End it here if you consider to do so 00:39:488 For its shape how about using the one befor and just stretch it a bit? https://puu.sh/vqtXG/2c17c5df49.png
   
2. 00:49:234 (3,4) - beeing really picky here but imo this one should be a roated version of those 00:43:119 (2,3) - (copy paste then CTRL + , them once and place the copied circle where 00:49:234 (3) - was
   
3. 01:32:992 (3) - Make this one in direction of your flow (for example just CTRL + J like https://puu.sh/vqAki/7fa0b3f1a6.png Its still in the playfield that way) did better flow
   
4. 01:48:660 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - in that part are several outstanding vocals. You mapped sliders to those vocals. Think about doing the jumps instead of the sliders. It will emphasize the vocals even better since they are outstanding there. If you are thinking about doing it, you can just delete 01:48:851 (3,4) - and then move everything afterwards untill 01:51:240 (7) - two ticks earlier https://puu.sh/vqB88/db31a07581.png also considder doing a jump here too 01:50:953 (4) -
   Iknow, it need a bit of remapping of that part but if you move it in the timeline its not that critical i think. I was thinking about seperating the emphasis for vocals and for sounds in the kiai. for the vocals i use the sliders to make them outstanding and for sounds i use the pattern you suggested at for example 01:52:291 (2) - 01:52:864 (2) - 01:53:629 (3,1) - here and so on. i see that this might cause some confuseness but i hope its not a big deal because remapping this would cause remapping whole kiais basically because evrything relates to each other visually..
   
5. 02:37:960 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - guess you would have to do the same as above here too
   
   (okai that part is going to be like this a lot so a change would be quiet some time i think.)
   
6. 03:46:750 (1) - this was a bit confusing in my first play. Maybe think haveing the path visually more clear. (but maybe i was just bad well i slider broke on it :'D) like so maybe: https://puu.sh/vqBIZ/95d7094ba5.png i like this sldierart!:( Idk will consider nerfing the overlaps if more people have trouble with it, the few testplays i saw had no trouble reading this sldiers so yeah... considering!
   
7. 03:57:355 - maybe make this clickable?
   
8. 05:07:004 - you have a spinner here at the end. Wouldn't it be cooler if you would have had the exact same slider from the start here? 00:05:093 (4,1,2,3) - just flipped? (CTRL + J) i thought of the same but it feels really weird to wait for this slider to show up since the music ends at 05:05:476 - abruptly

That's all i got. Sorry if it wasn't of any help. I think its a great map and i really would like to see it ranked (or at least loved)

Good Luck!!

unmentioned is fixed, thank you for your mod!

Clappy wrote:

00:35:667 (1) - This stream's NCs could be every 4th note like later on in the map i nc on every vocal and the flow changes on every vocal

00:54:011 (1) - Among the midst of this stream the hitsounding changes but theres no change in the music (something about it works tho) i want to hitsound the background sounds and not the drums, and on the downbeat is such a sound

00:59:361 (3) - This could be one long slider perhaps with an SV change or or red ticks, to match the pitch change in music [slider head 00:59:361 - slider tail 00:59:934]

01:08:915 (1) - Missing a gem here, could insert a slider did flow change in stream to represent this

01:24:202 (6) - Any reason for a 1/4 slider here? if they were all circles they would better match the combo that proceeds at 01:26:113 (1)

01:27:641 (1) - Very awkwardly placed, does break flow on the strong vocals (which is good), but could be placed better think its ok since you dont follow the slidershape very accurately

01:32:800 (2) - I get the purpose of this slider, you want emphasis on 01:32:992 (3), so make 01:32:800 (2) break flow by rotating it -131 degrees around the selection center or something along those lines

01:44:457 (1) - Starting with the stream here, you could increase the spacing on NC's since the sounds do get more intense i think that's be too hard and over the top, i have already technical stream to represetn the intensity of these sounds

01:48:660 (1) - Hard turn in the stream is supported by the vocals here, but in my personal opinion it shouldn't be as sharp because the music doesn't change along with it

01:53:629 (3) - The music does begin to drop in pitch here, you reflected that by the triples with 1/4 slider here, should also be the same with 01:54:775 (5) - aswell i wanted to emphasize the background sound and at that point the background sound doesnt change like on the triple before

01:56:686 (1) - No problem with this at all, just wanted to say fucking sick idea bro

02:07:386 (2) - Any reason for the aesthetic change? bot really, just sliderart.. i did these kinds of sldiers (with little variation) later on too

02:16:558 (1) - Nice subtle change

02:28:788 (1,2) - These flow and snap into each other quite well, cant say the same about 02:29:361 (3) consider readjusting? anythign else doesnt really look good aesthetically imo, its no problem to hit practically

02:22:673 (1) - Same as 02:07:386 (2) any reason for the aesthetic change? not everything has to be the same, its boring imo

02:33:374 (1) - I dont think the piano is map-able here, doesn't really play nicely i dont have and i didnt see any playability issues here (for me and for some testplays)

02:45:890 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - Should all be sharp changes here its sharp enough, the emphasis is there.

02:57:355 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - space these out more to keep the same emphasis like 01:56:686 (1) has

03:39:106 (1) - Blankets are crisp, but seems a bit cluttered perhaps? Little more spacing?

04:11:208 (1) - Maybe make it break flow for more emphasis? would not know where to place it without looking bad

04:43:310 (1) - Blanket it a bit better with the circular stream

05:05:571 (1) - Not really a problem, but why is this snapped onto 1/16 LOL

Ametrin wrote:

nm from my q

mod

[*]the volume of your hir sound is too small
maybe you can copy the hit sound from dragonforce
also add dragonforce in the tag
[*]too much NC in your map

00:35:667 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1) - I know you want to emphasize the vocal but really NC too much or u can try to make the distance larger between different NC did reverse slider pattern, stream doesnt fit here actually sine its in very beginning and player is not used to this rhythm (sharp angles for vocal etc)
00:51:336 (1) - remove NC
01:30:890 (2) - make a jump here
02:32:992 - why blank here sound is clearly on blue tick
02:34:329 (2) - NC
03:44:074 (1,2,3,4,5) - shape its alright, didnt see problem playing it (watched testplays and including myself)
03:46:750 (1) - too confusing... subjective

sorry for short mod but i'm not good at stream map

thanks for mod!

mick2903 wrote:

Mod request from #ModReq


00:38:724 - 00:48:660 Nothing really to say about this part excepts for my opinion
00:39:871 (1,2,3) - I would move it up by half a circle
00:41:399 (1,2,3) - leaving this as it so that 00:41:781 (3) - overlaps with 00:38:724 (4) -
00:42:928 (1,2,3) - move this up slightly so that 00:42:928 (1) - overlaps with 00:39:871 (1) - which would be moved up
...
This is just my opinion, nothing wrong with how you mapped it hmm... i think stacks look more organized and i think a section with less objects should look organized.. ill cosndier this for future mods


01:58:597 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1) - I absolutely love this! Symmetrical mapping rocks when done right, don't let anyone advise you to change this beautiful section ^_^ yea fits quite well here because i only do that here and the song doesnt repeat this section


03:19:234 - stream too tight ? > readability
1-2, look at it like a slider, rotate it by 20 °
and maybe make the circle pattern 1-2-3-4 a little less tight so that the 4 in this combo is a bit higher on screen
to allow for same modification on 03:19:998 (1,2,3,4) - (20 ° rotation and make pattern slightly less tight) id like to keep the sharp angle from the straight into the circular stream. indeed it has a poor readability, since the circular streams are supposed to be emphasozed i increased the DS for the by 0.2x so it is less tight and actually fits the sounds/vocal better


03:35:285 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - I think it'd look better if this was circular and not slightly oval adjusted it


03:44:074 (1,2,3,4,5) - looked a bit odd at first sight, didn't see the intended pattern right away > may seem odd on first few plays on map
may be better if 3 was a bit higher up, so that instead of a smooched semi-circle you have a slightly blown out circle
(imagine this pattern circular, keeping 1-2 and 4-5 as it is now and pushing 3 slightly outward of the perfect circular pattern) true


03:46:750 (1) - this slider might pose issues for ranking, you don't really see how it plays out, could confuse players on sightread
I would split up the slider paths of start and end a bit to make it more intuitive (separating as far as red line in screenshot show)
maybe a bit more, maybe a bit less. did

SPOILER

04:09:679 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - same reading related complaints as for 03:19:234
here I would rotate 04:10:062 (1,2,3,4) - by a certain ° so that it passes right through 04:09:871 (3) - ,
makes it less tight, though not sure how well that'd play out in this case
04:10:826 (1,2,3,4) - same here, rotate it a bit so that it passes through 04:10:635 (3) - i think its better readable if it overlaps instead of stacking, if i stack it then you dont see the circle completely. also i tihnk because i made the pattern before 03:19:234 (1) - here better readable, the player does expect such pattern at that spot later on.


05:04:329 (1,2,3,4) - looks odd at first glance, 05:04:520 (3,4) - rotate by -5°, looks a lot cleaner in my opinion this should be perfectly symmetical on horizontal axis, i did this with copy paste




Good luck ranking the map, It looks really nice and is a blast to play

Thank you for your mod!

Unbound by Fate

1. 00:22:482 (2,3,4) - Is the ds change here is made on purpose ?
2. 00:57:641 (3) - Maybe ctrl+g to keep the flow from the previous slider
3. 00:58:788 - There's a snare here ;w;
4. 01:08:915 (1,2,3,4) - I guess you could increase spacing, the guitar is doing a very intense sound
5. 01:26:877 (6) - I think this should be clickable, cause intense guitar
6. 02:19:043 (5,6,7,8) - I don't think stacking _ at the end of the triple is a good idea, cause you don't have that kinda of stacking in the beginning of the map
7. 02:41:781 (2,3) - I think you can make this in a 1/4 slider to emphasize the lyrics here
8. 03:39:106 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - That's sexy
9. 03:57:450 (1) - I would make this into an extended slider, cause the guitar is still quite here
10. 04:47:896 (1) to 04:58:501 (4) - I think you can do more for this part, imo it one of the more intense part of the song. I think that making 5 notes streams with a 1/4 slider a the end of each would fit more with the guitar, I understand what instrument your are prioritazing, but you can hear the guitar a lot more in this part

Toshino Kyoko wrote:

NM

Unbound by Fate

1. 00:22:482 (2,3,4) - Is the ds change here is made on purpose ? fixed, even ds now
2. 00:57:641 (3) - Maybe ctrl+g to keep the flow from the previous slider flow change is on purpose because slider 3 covers a different sound than the 2 sliders before. so its for emphasis
3. 00:58:788 - There's a snare here ;w; yeah, i have to find a good solution here, i did smth now so i map the snare but not final i think
4. 01:08:915 (1,2,3,4) - I guess you could increase spacing, the guitar is doing a very intense sound true
5. 01:26:877 (6) - I think this should be clickable, cause intense guitar did
6. 02:19:043 (5,6,7,8) - I don't think stacking _ at the end of the triple is a good idea, cause you don't have that kinda of stacking in the beginning of the map yeahj
7. 02:41:781 (2,3) - I think you can make this in a 1/4 slider to emphasize the lyrics here i emphasize the fading sound here with the beginning of the stream. i mapped vocal before with 02:37:960 (1,1,1,1,1) -
8. 03:39:106 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - That's sexy
9. 03:57:450 (1) - I would make this into an extended slider, cause the guitar is still quite here idk, i like the "stop" to emphasize the jumps right after, i tihnk with extended slider the jumpü pattern would not outstand anymore, furthermore the guitar isnt as prominent as the other sounds imo. i will cosnider this if future mods say same
10. 04:47:896 (1) to 04:58:501 (4) - I think you can do more for this part, imo it one of the more intense part of the song. I think that making 5 notes streams with a 1/4 slider a the end of each would fit more with the guitar, I understand what instrument your are prioritazing, but you can hear the guitar a lot more in this part will need more opinions about this since its a fundamental change. i kinda like the idea to execute the streams with a long stream and with 1/4 sliders it would be more similar to the kiai (and this section is clearly different from kiai) so the outstanding facotr currently is huge which i like a lot. so yeah reconsidering this aswell

Very good map, the streams are sexy as f*ck
Have a Nice Day and Good Luck !! >w<

1. 00:03:087 - 40% volume still sounds pretty high with that hitnormal, maybe use soft samples for these until 00:05:093 -
2. 00:10:635 - better put that on the 1/8 at 00:10:587 -
3. 00:41:399 (1,2,3) - change those up a bit from the previous triangle, like mark all > scale > selection center > and then by 1.200 or something, to make the jump a bit larger for the different guitar pitch
4. 00:47:514 (4,5,1) - maybe same with these
5. 00:49:425 (4) - something like this https://puu.sh/vCfz1/f9a77026e2.png so the player doesnt need to awkardly stop his upward momentum from 3 to 4 just to move the cursor slower into the opposite direction for the slider
6. 01:08:915 (1,2,3,4) - incrase ds slightly by like 0.1 so its 1.5 and so the super high pitch gets a bit more emphasize reduce the spacing a little bit from 00:56:304 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
7. 01:40:157 - dont like how the vocal gets kinda ignored when u emphasized them perfectly on parts like 00:35:667 - or 01:06:240 - , should do something like https://puu.sh/vCgiA/bfa76cedd9.png
8. 01:52:386 - same here then but I guess it doesnt matter and would be a bit difficult to realize since pattering and all so whatever
9. 01:56:208 (2,3,4,5,6) - reduce ds for those, I dont think the drums here are as intense as they are in the other parts where you used this high ds so they will lose a bit of emphasize because of this one here. you probably made the ds this large to buildup the 1/4 jump to 01:56:686 (1) - but I think using ds 1.2 would work better
10. 01:59:743 - add circle and custom stack under 01:59:361 (2) - like you did with these two 01:58:215 (4,1) -
11. 02:09:488 - delete and make this 02:08:915 (5) - a repeat so there is better emphasize on the stronger drum and guitar sound at 02:09:679 (6) -
12. 02:15:030 - that slider shape is sharp af maybe move the red anker a little bit further away from the slidercircle so the path is a bit more clear
13. 02:34:807 - pls add note here, emphasizing these piano sounds beautifully and then leaving out this one tilts meeee
14. 03:35:858 (7,8) - 1/4 slider instead for the guitar tune change
15. 03:42:546 - why not the sharp turn in the stream here, 03:42:928 - here and 03:43:310 - here? looks weird looking at the streamshape which completely defies the actual guitar solo when you actually followed it here 03:44:074 -
16. 04:12:737 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - use very low ds for those since the guitar has been completely dropped here which would go nicely with that buildup

Vell wrote:

hi!

1. 00:03:087 - 40% volume still sounds pretty high with that hitnormal, maybe use soft samples for these until 00:05:093 -
2. 00:10:635 - better put that on the 1/8 at 00:10:587 -
3. 00:41:399 (1,2,3) - change those up a bit from the previous triangle, like mark all > scale > selection center > and then by 1.200 or something, to make the jump a bit larger for the different guitar pitch
4. 00:47:514 (4,5,1) - maybe same with these i dont think it works well here because of the 1/1 circles around there
5. 00:49:425 (4) - something like this https://puu.sh/vCfz1/f9a77026e2.png so the player doesnt need to awkardly stop his upward momentum from 3 to 4 just to move the cursor slower into the opposite direction for the slider its the same thing as 00:43:310 (3) - , i use that for emphasis the blue tick sounds. will change if it turns out to be really awmward
6. 01:08:915 (1,2,3,4) - incrase ds slightly by like 0.1 so its 1.5 and so the super high pitch gets a bit more emphasize reduce the spacing a little bit from 00:56:304 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
7. 01:40:157 - dont like how the vocal gets kinda ignored when u emphasized them perfectly on parts like 00:35:667 - or 01:06:240 - , should do something like https://puu.sh/vCgiA/bfa76cedd9.png for the kiai's i'd like to emphasize the vocal at 01:36:813 (1,1,1,1,1) - and to emphasize the background sound with the beginning of each stream 01:40:635 (2,3,1,1) - . that is consistent everywhere in kiai so yea.. idk
8. 01:52:386 - same here then but I guess it doesnt matter and would be a bit difficult to realize since pattering and all so whatever
9. 01:56:208 (2,3,4,5,6) - reduce ds for those, I dont think the drums here are as intense as they are in the other parts where you used this high ds so they will lose a bit of emphasize because of this one here. you probably made the ds this large to buildup the 1/4 jump to 01:56:686 (1) - but I think using ds 1.2 would work better
10. 01:59:743 - add circle and custom stack under 01:59:361 (2) - like you did with these two 01:58:215 (4,1) -
11. 02:09:488 - delete and make this 02:08:915 (5) - a repeat so there is better emphasize on the stronger drum and guitar sound at 02:09:679 (6) -
12. 02:15:030 - that slider shape is sharp af maybe move the red anker a little bit further away from the slidercircle so the path is a bit more clear
13. 02:34:807 - pls add note here, emphasizing these piano sounds beautifully and then leaving out this one tilts meeee
14. 03:35:858 (7,8) - 1/4 slider instead for the guitar tune change
15. 03:42:546 - why not the sharp turn in the stream here, 03:42:928 - here and 03:43:310 - here? looks weird looking at the streamshape which completely defies the actual guitar solo when you actually followed it here 03:44:074 - oh shit...
16. 04:12:737 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - use very low ds for those since the guitar has been completely dropped here which would go nicely with that buildup

nice map tbh
also I still need to annoy you about a certain something wha do you mean ><
bye!

did everything unmentioned!
thanks a lot, much appreciated

02:23:437 (3,1) - even if spacing on timeline tells you to make spacing between notes bigger, but how you did place these 2 sliders, i think, is kinda incorrect, decrease spacing for a bit.

why did you make hitsounds so loud after quiet hs?

04:11:208 (1) - move it closer to the stream, player would expect this as single note.

stickAcc wrote:

Unbound by Fate

01:39:106 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - why did you make hitsounds so loud after quiet hs?
01:51:336 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^ its same volume just normal sampleset to empashize that part

Lower it for a bit.
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02:08:151 (3) - make overlap not so big.
02:19:998 (2) - ^
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02:23:437 (3,1) - even if spacing on timeline tells you to make spacing between notes bigger, but how you did place these 2 sliders, i think, is kinda incorrect, decrease spacing for a bit.
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02:31:081 (2) - place it somewhere else, mapped pretty bad.
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02:32:800 (3,1) - same as here its more for emphasis, i really want to make them seperated very clear

02:23:437 (3,1) - even if spacing on timeline tells you to make spacing between notes bigger, but how you did place these 2 sliders, i think, is kinda incorrect, decrease spacing for a bit.

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02:40:253 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
02:52:482 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
04:19:616 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -

why did you make hitsounds so loud after quiet hs?

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03:13:883 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - song intensifies, so, you have to bring more attention to spacing and cursor movement. i dont really get that, i do intensify my map according to the song imo.. idk i need examples of what you really mean here
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03:48:278 (1) - PLEASE, don't make it stacked. its a nice execution imo, and since the followeing part is really soft no spacing here fits well imo, will reconsider if people say same
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04:09:679 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - can you work on this stream? I got big misread here. only bcuz its different from stuff you see usual
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04:11:208 (1) - move it closer to the stream, player would expect this as single note. empahsis thing like i did for 01:56:686 (1) - and plenty othert spots, its consistent and built around a concept so no issue here imo
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04:12:355 (3) - make it overlapped, not stacked.
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04:43:310 (1) -

04:11:208 (1) - move it closer to the stream, player would expect this as single note.

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And that's all...

What can i say, mapped very well, amazing work! <3 thank you!
Song is so great, i like it!
Hope you will get your map ranked! c:
UPD: Dropped a kudosu for you c:
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I know, we both wanna rank our maps, so, i'd be very appreciated if you mod my map :3

Lulu- wrote:

Here's my (really late orz) part of the M4M! (sorry xd)

[General]
The BG looks pretty weird because of the crop, try finding a better one. If you're unable to find a BG with the right dimensions or just really like the current one, try resizing the original with Waifu2x if the dimensions are off and recrop it in Photoshop or any other similar program. did reize it myself, maybe i made little issue and its a bit cropped but i honestly dont see much croping oO will redo the bg when someones says same

Disable Widescreen Support (It's used for Storyboards, so it's useless here)

The offset feels a tiny bit off to me, try using 515 its offset from ranked map, so i rely on this for now

[Unbound by Fate]
00:03:183 (2,3) - This doesn't represent the thunder really well, I recommend doing something like this and lowering the SV on 3

00:10:587 (3) - This circle felt a bit underwhelming to me while playing, try spacing it further away

00:46:176 (5) - Place this somewhere around x:162 y173, having the same overlaps repeat over and over again feels a bit lazy tbh why lazy? its exact same sound so it is justified to stack it with the circle before

00:52:482 (1) - Having straight sliders in streams this curvy make them stand out much and the song doesn't really change much when you've placed these sliders, so they feel out of the place. its blanket'd with 00:50:953 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - . and the sliders is obviously there to emphasize the sound at 00:52:482 -

00:54:871 (1) - Move NC to 9 i nc'd this because theres this sound coming up thats why i set the angle of the stream there, its just like 00:55:157 (4) -

01:39:106 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - These are too loud compared to the rest, I know they're for emphasis but please tone them down a bit its same volume, just the normal sampleset is louder in default skin

I don't really understand how you're trying to use 1/4 sliders in your streams, if you're trying to follow the vocals then use them when new words with strong syllables start, as they currently don't seem to follow anything. 1/4 sliders are either used to emphasize the vocals or to make an emphasis for the beginning of a stream possible. these 2 ways of emphasis alternate consistently in the kiais and i chose 2 different ways to make it a bit more exciting. 01:36:813 (1,1,1,1,1) - are obviously for vocal, to emphasis the beginning of each stream (with the stronger sound) 01:40:635 (2,3,1,1) - i use 1/4 slider before to make this possible.

02:17:132 (2) - Split this up into a circle on the red tick and slider on the white tick, the white tick is worth being clicked to me

02:33:374 (1,1,1,1,1) - This should be snapped in 1/3, not in 1/4 some of them are 1/3 some are clearly 1/4, i need more opinion on this. because currently i think its fine to simplify this

03:10:062 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Same thing as mentioned above

05:05:571 (1) - This spinner felt really out of place as well, you don't need it to get psat 5 mins, so it's safe to remove

The streams feel nice to play, but some of your linear flow choices feel random (like this 02:01:272 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1) - ) and could be improved greatly by using a bit more complex symmetry with some rotations well, this is intentionally strict symmetric on both axises because this part is really different from everything else in the song, i think its rather personally preference, if i use this or a bit more complex symmetry doesnt much affect the representation of the song imo. A lot of your 1/4 sliders don't blend in well, because there are no straight streams (i think) and you suddenly change stuff by throwing in 90/45° straight sliders, so you should just curve them for consistency's sake. Even though stuff would mostly play the same, the visual impact would be much more positive to the player, since everything would blend well together much better than it does now. actually i tried to make every 1/4 slider after a stream flow in the same direction like the stream does, except those where i blanket'd stuff and in this case its just a different way of structuring the map, an example would be the thing you mentioned above where i blanket'd the slider to the previous stream

Other than that I don't have any real complaints about this map

If you're trying to find a Hitsounder for your map, here's a personal recommendation! You should try your luck, this guy's pretty good

Hope this was helpful, Good luck!

thank you for your mod, and sorry for late reply

Come[Back]Home wrote:

Unbound by Fate

* 00:31:081 (1,2) - Why the high distance here? looks almost like a 1/2 object tbh fix
* 00:58:597 (1,2,3,4) - how about you lower the distance here a bit? like -0,1 or -0,2? Makes the pattern look better somehow (cant explain why though) yes i agree
* 01:01:654 (5,1) - I would add a nc at (5) and delete the nc on (1). fits more tbh oki
* 01:15:030 (1) - you could change the spacing of the stream a bit so it will fit more with how the drums change yea, did also more appropriate shape
* 01:45:794 (1) - why the nc? i dont get it. same 02:46:941 (1) - theres this strong sound i NC to, and i also do flow change when that sounds appear
* 02:15:030 (7) - i dont know why, but this slider looks really weird imo and doesnt fit with the sliders before true
* 03:10:826 (1,2) - this was unexpected when i played it lol. maybe the spacing is a bit too big, you cant really predict that its 3/4 reduced a bit
* 03:40:157 (5,6) - why the overlap? looks weird imo :/ dont know what other patterning would work here, i kinda like 03:39:106 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - as a whole
* 03:44:457 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is really hard to read imo, maybe too hard. you should get some opinions on it imo (but i guess its just me though) yes, maybe i have to overlap here, ill see
* 05:04:329 (1,2,3,4) - yeah, accuracy will probably drop here on the first try, but i guess its cool



sorry, im really bad at modding streamy maps :c
but it looked really cool and all, awesome map (though the song gave me headaches lol)
good luck! \o/

Minorsonek wrote:

hi, m4m

Top diff

00:26:495 (1,2) - spacing here is the same as 1/2 rhythm 00:26:877 (2,3) -, do it as you did 00:28:023 (1,2) - fix
00:36:240 (3,1) - space it the same as 00:36:431 (1,2) - ok
00:38:724 (4) - NC, as you did 00:37:195 (1) - yes
00:49:425 (4) - NC, as you did on the same sound here 00:47:896 (1) - they are much different, first has bluetick rhythm too
00:54:011 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - make combo and structure consistent with 00:50:953 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - (8 - 4 - 4 combo, if not, at least remove that 9 combo) they mapped according to the sound in the background
01:00:890 (3,4) - fix blanket
01:21:144 (7,1) - ^
02:07:386 (2,3) - you can blanket it
02:09:871 (1) - stack it with sliderend of 02:11:208 (1) - or move it up to avoid overlap ok
02:22:100 (3,1) - fix blanket
02:25:730 (2,3) - you can blanket it
02:46:654 (1) - this sound is noticeably different than 02:46:176 (1) - or 02:46:367 (1) - or 02:46:941 (1) - so you can keep structure bcs its still stronger than 02:46:463 (2,3) - but at least remove NC dont get it, for me its structured - angles according to background blue tick sounds
02:47:132 (1) - ^
03:21:527 (3,4) - fix blanket, a bit off on left side
03:24:775 (1,2,3,4,5) - every slider is the same sound, so make spacing consistent, no reason for such a big jump here 03:24:775 (1,2) - pitch is higher
03:39:106 (1,2) - blanket
03:43:692 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - spacing is too big compared to previous kiai time's, especially when its almost same sound as low spaced 03:42:546 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - nvm
04:24:966 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - unplayable flow ---- i mean, this isnt that bad, BUT rest of the kiai time has easy flow streams, so its really bad here and song isnt really calling for something that hard to play its not unplayable, testplays prove that (i already saw many). this part gets harder by the time, in first kiai very easy to follow and here its reading challenge
05:03:183 (1) - idk if you wanted to achieve that, but it isnt in the middle of 05:01:654 (1) - but is few pixels off so you can fix it
Really nice ending tho fix

Overall really solid and nice map

Time Capsule wrote:

god thanks v1 still alive

will drop words later

Timperjuncio wrote:

Hi, M4M from #modreqs (my map: https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/702734/#osu/1486899 )

01:05:189 (6,7,8,1,2) - This is a weird angle which feels really uncomfortable and messy to play.
01:30:221 (5,6,1,2) - Direction changes too randomly. Consider choosing a clearer one (for example, ctrl+h & ctrl+j on 01:30:316 (6) - to improve the flow) dont think its unexpectable, even if it is player has enough time to react because its a slider
01:42:164 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - I don't understand the reason why you decided to make a triple and right after that a 5-tap burst. I think it would be easier to read and it would even fit the rhythm in a more propper way. because it fits to the background sound being at every NC there
02:28:788 (1,2,3) - I really like this kind of patterns. They are really original imo and they fit the song greatly!
02:40:253 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Weird angle and weird to play not generic style of mapping i admit, but its reasonable and followable (and i like that pattern right after it sooo much)
02:53:724 (4,5) - ctrl+h to improve the flow? probably, but i like the idea of having 02:53:437 (2,3,4,5) - be the same because the vocal is in the same pitch. will consider it though
02:57:355 (5,6,7) - I would replace these circles with a back-and-forth slider in order to make a triple (easier to read than 6 notes because of the XzxzxZ thing, instead of XzxzX or XzxzxzX. I hope you understand this part ). i know what you mean, will take care of this later
03:16:176 (3) - NC here and make DS larger these sliders only represent vocals and the vocals do stay the same in terms of intensity, so i dont see reason to make nc/ds increase
03:32:992 (4,5) - DS = 1,21x maybe? i like to seperate those 2
04:09:679 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - this pattern is very difficult to read. 04:09:679 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - this movement is clockwise, so you should consider making the rest of the pattern on that same direction so players don't get confused. i agree, changed that do different pattern


Overall, a great map. You have made a great work! I think you should care more about its playability, even though most of the patterns are correct.

thank you for your mod!! unmentioned is changed

YukiZura- wrote:

from q , red is life xD

[Unbound by fate]
02:28:597 (4,5,1) - better ds them all.. i like the tiny ds emphasis here, i do that on other spots too so its consistent
02:33:660 (1) - remove nc here i think nc is good for sv change here
02:34:329 (4) - weird , maybe slider doesnt suit to be there cuz 02:34:425 - at this part is more likely to be tap xD (i hope you understand) btw i think replace the slider with a note i'd want to represent the same sounds with the same objects, i get that important sound is on a sliderend but thats just how it is. i think that pattern fits very well here

02:49:807 (5) - nc here i never use nc there ><
02:46:654 (1) - why nc here? ^

damn really good stream map tho ><
not much that i can mod .. so, here some stars xD

thank you for taking a look!! and thanks for the stars much appreciated!

squirrelpascals wrote:

Hihi, returning m4m

diff

check these out should be fixed now, hitsounder sent me fixed files

• 00:48:660 (3,1) - maybe use smaller spacing? because the new rhythm choice here is a bit unexpected

• 00:54:775 (9,1) - The corner + nc should be on the downbeat because thats where exaggeration is needed. same at 00:55:348 (6,1,2,1) - , it all seems 1/4 beat too late fixed 00:54:775 (1) - and about 00:55:348 (7) - i dont know if i really want to make another corner change. it would be 2 flow changes withing 3 circles which is a bit too much in "post-intro" - i tihnk its smarter to save this special tricky pattern for the kiais. imo the current pattern with that one fix fits perfect to the background sounds in the song.

• 01:08:533 (2,3) - Sounds like it would be better as a kick slider or something, the beat on 01:08:629 - is quiet

• 01:29:934 (2,3,4,5,6) - The different angle of the stream and slider make this pattern look uneven. can you round the stream with the slider more or something? its hard to explain why i think that this fits perfectly. it is obvious that i intended to do this kind of pattern, the vocal for 01:30:316 (6) - suddenly stops in intensity and pitch comapred to the 4 circles before which represent much intenser vocal with higher pitch. So i try to emphasize the change in the vocal with "a stop" for the cursor movement, you dont follow the direction the circles flow to, you stop the cursormovement and make a small movement down and then back which emphasizes the loss of intensity in the vocals. I hope you understand what i mean ><. Like i feel the music stops and so should the cursor moving for that small time-interval

• 01:38:342 (7) - nc here instead? downbeat yes fixed in all kiais

• 01:45:030 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - I see what you're trying to do here with the corners on strong beats, but the jaggedness of this stream makes it difficult and uncomfortable to aim. would suggest you do this more subtly i agree with that, its actually the only pattern of the total 3 I do miss on while testplaying. I use only one "zick-zack" and then continue with more linear slightly circular flow, so its easier to read

• 01:48:660 - dont you usually add a stream corner or something here to these vocals? either slight stream corner or a movement change which is the case here, in the middle of this whole stream the movement gets horizontally flipped which is enough to emphasize the vocal smoothly mo

• 02:08:533 (4,1) - space these more because its a 1/2 beat gap instead of 1/4 beat

• 02:25:157 (4,5) - suggest removing this triple, the beats here are too quiet to notice. same at 02:31:272 (3,4) - hmm i think its personal thing. Like i agree that its almost not noticeable with a circle on it but when i remove the triple i still slightly hear it in the song so i rather wnana keep them

• 02:28:597 (4,5,1) - space these evenly? looks like an error its the same thing i did at 04:07:960 (4,5,1) - , though, i changed it exactly that way so it looks intended and not like an error

• 02:32:609 (1,2,3) - I would suggest starting this triple at 02:32:800 - because the drums are louder there think i got what you mean, changed

• 02:55:730 (9,1) - try starting this slower stream on either the red or white tick around it, it just feels weird where it is now did white tick

• 03:13:883 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this overlap plays weird and looks kind of forced

• 03:43:979 (4,1,2) - 03:44:361 (4,1,2) - These overlaps dont play very well at all because of the angles you have to hit at 03:43:883 (3,4,1) - and 03:44:265 (3,4,1) - respectfully i agree that its really hard to a) read and b) aim aswell. i nerfed the first angle it is way more comfortable now. But i still want to keep the special angle for 03:44:361 (4,1) - because on circle (1) is a very special sound that the other white ticks do not offer. in conclusion i think pattern is much more comfortable now

• 04:18:851 (7) - again, nc here for downbeat?

• 04:26:495 (1,2,3) - this would play better if you flipped it like this i want it to really stand out because this smaller DS stream is in a very different section. if i make that circular thing you suggested then it would look too much being part of the stream before which I definetely want to avoid.

• 04:40:539 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1) - The concept here is fine, the aesthetics of the pattern look pretty random though made the pattern more organized 04:40:922 (2,1,2,3,1) - being parallel and in a structured grid

shweet, call me back

everythign unmentioned got changed,
thank you sooo much! i highly appreciated it

MBmasher wrote:

rank this shit

-Mo- wrote:

Surprised there's still no ranked standard map of this song yet.

- 01:32:992 - I'd say put the preview point here so that it doesn't start with half a second of cut held vocal. did blue tick right before so the strong sound is better noticeable

- 00:00:603 (1) - Might be worth lowering the volume so the spinner spin doesn't drown out the quiet wind noise. did 20%
- 00:04:234 (3) - Sounds like it's a little late compared to the first thunderclap. true, i think 1/8 tick sounds about right
- 00:07:052 (1) - Also sounds a little late compared to when the squeak is first audible. also 1/8 tick right beofre i guess
- 00:10:539 - Thunderclap sound starts about here, so you could do some reverse 1/8 slider thing if you wanted. did reverse thing

I would say that mapping the door and thunderclap sounds doesn't really add much to the map and it should just be left unmapped, but then it's not approval length so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i 100% agree here. i tested everything to avoid mapping that thunderpart but it just doesnt work for >300s. I'm not sure if a spinner in the end until the very last sound + mapping the tiny little break in the map would be enough to count up to 300s, but anyways the spinner in the end would be very weird aswell... The taiko ranked map just put one big 10s spinner for the thunder part in the beginning, but that doesnt help too much either..

- 01:33:565 - Might be cool to place a circle here for the vocal note. after 3 remaps and countless self-mods i never noticed that there is a vocal, i think it is almost inaudible especially because of the very strong sound on the white tick before which i want to keep the focus and emphasis on. trhe music kind of stops there for 1 beat and i want to mark that in the map too with the stack.
- 01:33:756 (1) - 01:45:985 (1) etc - I'd try to map these vocal notes as sliders too since it seems to stick out too much when all of the other vocal notes like 01:35:285 (1) land on sliders. It doesn't feel like the current rhythm really gives it any extra emphasis either. i agree with that but something holds me back from doing that. entering the kiai with sliders is really not fitting the intense chorus of the song, the only thing you do is pressing the key one time which has very low intensity for the player. Also i mainly use sliders for vocal when they land on a blue tick i nthe middle of a section, in this case it is the beginning of the section landing on a downbeat. in addition to that, at spots like 02:34:902 (1) - and 04:14:265 (1) - this doesnt really work well because the objects before are sliders too, i tihnk i dont have to explain why i find that unfitting there.
- 01:42:546 (1,2,3,4) - I'd probably use the same rhythm as 01:42:164 (1,2,3) so it can add emphasis on 01:42:737 snd 01:42:928, and since I think it's better to keep the guitar notes as a pair. Same for other kiais. i dont really get what you mean by that. what i was thinking with this is mapping the background fading sounds at 01:42:164 (1,1) - entering the sliderpart 01:42:928 (1) - here for the vocals which works at the same time as a "buil-up" (in a sense of low clicking effort for the player into stream) towards the most intense part of the kiai.
- 02:02:227 (5) - This could be spaced out like 02:01:654 (5) too. yes
- 02:33:660 (1) - A rhythm like thismight be cool since I think it's worth mapping the white tick too. it feels a bit weird now but i think i have to get used to it, changed
- 02:50:189 (1) - You could offset this from the straight line like 02:49:807 (5) does from 1,2,3,4 for emphasis. i think this offset thing doesnt work too great for circle into slider because you dont really catch the movement (because its only one circle to click basically) like you would with circles into circles (and catching the movement is kind of the reason why you do such offsets imo)
- 03:23:055 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Would personally shorten the spacing of this stream even more since it's still a little hard to notice the difference in game. did 0.3x instead of 0.5
- 03:25:730 (1) - Makes more sense to move the NC to 03:25:348 (4).
- 03:31:272 (1) - Same thing to 03:31:463 (2).
- 03:42:928 (5) - Looks like it should be NC'd according to the next combos. did all nc stuff
- 03:45:221 (1) - Might be worth shortening and placing a circle on the blue tick so that all of thie guitar notes for this section land on clickable beats. idk.. i rather wanna keep it simple after the hardest part of the map, that rhythm might get too confusing
- 03:52:100 (2) - Could Ctrl+G this so reverses flow like 00:18:087 (2) did. sure
- 03:57:450 (1) - Would make this a 3/4 slider so that it matches the held guitar note. Might just be me, but it would also help me not play 03:57:832 (2) as if it was following the vocals. fits much better nice
- 04:11:208 (5) - Could NC since every other white tick is an NC.
- 04:13:501 (1) - Offset thing again. yes here its very strong
- 05:04:902 (2) - Shortening to blue tick would be more accurate with the guitar I think. hm.. if i listen at 25% i still hear the "hold-sound" until the white tick

Let me recheck.

ラブライブ！ School idol project

-Mo- wrote:

Recheck

- 00:07:052 (1) - Might want to recheck this slider so that all the squiggle things are timed right, I think it's a little off now that you moved it. Also check the green lines are where they're supposed to be. oh yes, think its alright now (really hard to adjust, gotta say) and green lines are on spot now.

- 03:25:348 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 03:31:463 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - Is inconsistent NCing now, do one or the other (think I missed that last time, mb) should be consistent now

Not sure how much this matters, but source should use full width exclamation point. Copypasted from the metadata discord:

ラブライブ！ School idol project

copy pasted this into the map

Edit: Been kinda reluctant to point this out but I probably should

02:59:361 to 03:16:941 - Might bring up some concerns about overmapping. For the other parts of the map, constant 1/4 seems fine since I can hear a constant guitar and drum rhythm, but for this section, those instruments seem to be less prominent, so what used to support the streaming isn't really there anymore. I'm wondering if it would be better to remap this section to use less 1/4, or explain yourself as to why it's fine. i can understand why this is concerning. this section is kinda similar to 01:15:412 - this section (talking about the instruments) and I did map only most prominent sounds there. For 02:59:361 - this section however, i think this kind of "abrupt" rhythm (like 1/4 rhythms starting ending starting ending and so on... like 01:16:367 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - this for example, the 1/2 spaces make it look "clipped" idk really know how to describe it) doesnt really fit because both, fading backgroundsound (that are also supported by the stream angles) and holding vocals, are a thing here. so for these holding background sounds and super long vocals a consistent 1/4 rhythm without any gaps that would interrupt the background sounds and vocals fits much better, in my opinion. I think the comparison between the section before i mentioned and the section here helps understanding my view. so the streams are supposed to keep the map consistent in its really dense 1/4 rhythms and to represent background sound and super intense long vocals

Yuii- wrote:

okay so this will get ranked, congrats!
but for your next map, please do follow vocals. you're ignoring them completely, entirely... unless there are no instruments on the background, of course

i can't list examples of everything, but consistency sometimes is appreciated, see 02:46:941 (4) - for example and compare it to previous ncs, you will see what i am talking about

regarding vocals:
-streamjumps aren't placed accordingly, when vocals are stressed (let's say 02:50:189 (1) - but i won't list too many examples below as this happens literally everywhere) you place jumps right after that object.... that's not how emphasis works. when there's something standing out more than other sounds, you want to emphasize that particular sound, and not the one that comes after it that might not be relevant whatsoever. and in these cases, this is poorly executed
-vocals, PLEASE! 01:03:183 - vocals are quiet; intensity of the streams is the exact same as the ones in the kiai? 01:33:756 - that seems like an overall mistake
-streamjumps again - 01:34:043 (4,5) - what are these doubles that deserve a jump?
-01:56:399 (7,8,9,1) - these play quiet poorly, but that's just personal opinion, i think 02:57:355 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - flows more comfortably as these objects run downwards the whole time
-02:59:361 - vocals again
-03:45:221 (1,2) - shouldn't (2) start on blue cause of guitar? seems like you are following that but you ignore it as wellllllll it doesn start on a blue tick representing the guitar and skipping the white tick?
03:58:788 (2,3) - just felt unnecessary large when vocals are getting quieter and there's no drum hit the sounds get louder and louder and so does the spacing. this is not mapped to represent the vocals in first place
-etc etc etc

there's lots of things i would love to see improved in your next map. you have a great potential, youi know how to properly make streamshapes, sliders are cute, you even manage flow really decently... but, there is some other stuff that need to be polished in order to make an outstanding map
might not be my favorite map, but i hope you don't get demotivated or anything by this short mod

keep on mapping but remember these few things and you'll do much better next time!

good luck