The !faq *language* should stay as is, since it tells people of new channels. I think the Scandinavian languages should stay too, since there are younger players who might not understand all the advanced English terminology - if we remove those, then why not remove the ingame localizations too?theowest wrote:
#skandinavian has multiple language specific faqs. What do I do about that?
edit: Removed them. Everyone understands English in skandiland.
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I guess we can just remove the Swedish, Norwegian and Danish columns completely from the spreadsheet.
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Why create this complicated exception. I have yet to find a Swedish person in my life that do not speak English (who's not younger than 9 and older than 60). We really don't need these language specific faqs. !faq swedish/norwegian/danish/ should stay though, those could be useful in #osu.
later...
I was completely confused about the Scandinavian faqs 2 weeks ago. I thought the !faq + word would use the a sentence in a translated language depending on what channel you were in.
This doc just changed where they were and how there were going to be used, I should've moved our faqs instead...
If I were to go literally, I would write "Bruuuuuuuuuum" (translates as "Vroooooooooom", the sound of car).
3rd screenshot: same or shorten some of the sentences.
2nd screenshot: I can't reproduce this overlapping, how did you do?
It's seldom an issue for Chinese translations though, since they usually take less space than the English version.
why this exists if cannot be translated?
also, saw the tsundere translation for the FAQ, and lol'd like hell
PH locaisation is back to 100%, peppy
o7
We can get rid of these altogether now, right? Collections make them obsolete and unused.
I have also translated the few remaining non-translated French strings in the !faq spreadsheet.
translated around 10% of the missing german FAQ and corrected some entries
EDIT: german section is almost complete
If guide and tutorial are identical, then they should both be kept imo.
actually, I prefer name-change over change-name. I believe moderators use it more often too. o:
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If anyone wants to reimport the Spanish tsundere banchobot, help yourself: http://puu.sh/3822x.xlsx (backup of May 11, 2013)
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We hardly ever have to use faqs in our channel. Most Scandinavians prefer their language in-game so it would be silly to remove that too. The reason we're removing these sw/no/da- faqs is because they shouldn't exist any more.MillhioreF wrote:
The !faq *language* should stay as is, since it tells people of new channels. I think the Scandinavian languages should stay too, since there are younger players who might not understand all the advanced English terminology - if we remove those, then why not remove the ingame localizations too?theowest wrote:
#skandinavian has multiple language specific faqs. What do I do about that?edit: Removed them. Everyone understands English in skandiland.
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I guess we can just remove the Swedish, Norwegian and Danish columns completely from the spreadsheet.
peppy wrote:
Yes, please delete language-specific ones. All xx- prefixes should be removed eventually.
Why create this complicated exception. I have yet to find a Swedish person in my life that do not speak English (who's not younger than 9 and older than 60). We really don't need these language specific faqs. !faq swedish/norwegian/danish/ should stay though, those could be useful in #osu.
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I was completely confused about the Scandinavian faqs 2 weeks ago. I thought the !faq + word would use the a sentence in a translated language depending on what channel you were in.
This doc just changed where they were and how there were going to be used, I should've moved our faqs instead...
By the way, how will these new !faq commands work? Will they work that way: every of the English commands will have multiple sisters with "xx-" prefixes?
Some languages kept "Zoooom" or a local equivalent, some gave a short description like "Everything goes faster!", others gave a long one.
It's up to you I suppose. Here are the questions you should ask to yourself:Winshley wrote:
Someone suggested to do a full description toward DoubleTime mod tooltip (and he did). I wonder if it's appropriate or not, because he prefer to have a meaningful description instead of "Zoooooooooom". From what I see, Thai, Simplified Chinese, Indonesian, and Greece language provides detailed description, mentioning clearly about the 50% increased playback speed. This also applies to Nightcore and HalfTime mods as well.
- How well do you think people of your country will understand something like "Zoooooom"?
- Do you think the "DoubleTime" mod is already explicit enough, even for people who do not speak English everyday and thus, doesn't need a long, heavy description? A short one, maybe?
- On the contrary, do you think a long description should be appropriate here for people to fully understand the purpose of this mod?
Some languages kept "Zoooom" or a local equivalent, some gave a short description like "Everything goes faster!", others gave a long one.
I've cleaned up all the FAQ entries with a language prefix, except for a bunch of unique Chinese ones that didn't seem to correspond to any other entry. There's a bunch that the keyword itself is in a foreign language, too, so I haven't touched those either - other than that, it should be a lot cleaner. There might be some redundant or stupid entries that need removing, though.
Edit: I also plugged in the last of the v1 localizations into slots that had nothing translated in them (mostly Japanese.) I guess we can finally take that link out of the first post?
Edit: I also plugged in the last of the v1 localizations into slots that had nothing translated in them (mostly Japanese.) I guess we can finally take that link out of the first post?
If that's the case, I'll leave it as is, because someone wrote that and made a discussion on the document mentioning about it.XPJ38 wrote:
It's up to you I suppose.
If I were to go literally, I would write "Bruuuuuuuuuum" (translates as "Vroooooooooom", the sound of car).
(I don't know why anybody posts updates here)
Now the FAQ can be translated in the same Google-doc, and there are new lines to translate in osu!localisation, such as '(borderless)'.
Now the FAQ can be translated in the same Google-doc, and there are new lines to translate in osu!localisation, such as '(borderless)'.
I made a list of text I think could be translatable:
Saten and I have already translated the tips when editing beatmaps p/2108035
which too should be added to the doc (making it translatable)
SPOILER
I've also noticed there are many translations that won't fit where they should be:- The beatmap processing
this beatmap information.- the tooltips on the jukebox/now playing
- "Users connected, Search, Lock Panels, and the tabs for sorting.
- When clicking on someone
Saten and I have already translated the tips when editing beatmaps p/2108035
which too should be added to the doc (making it translatable)
1st screenshot: you should write on multiple lines by using Alt+Enter in Google Docs.theowest wrote:
I've also noticed there are many translations that won't fit where they should be:
3rd screenshot: same or shorten some of the sentences.
2nd screenshot: I can't reproduce this overlapping, how did you do?
I think the second screenshot happens in English too and is caused by having way too many highlights
that's correct.MillhioreF wrote:
I think the second screenshot happens in English too and is caused by having way too many highlights
New line to translate - asking if you want to restart osu! after changing languages.
And "Userlog_RetryCount" (line 301) has been changed to something more explicit.
Edit: moreover, since Perfect and Nightcore mods don't need to dragged anymore to be discovered, some faq entries need to be updated ("perfect" and "nightcore").
Edit: moreover, since Perfect and Nightcore mods don't need to dragged anymore to be discovered, some faq entries need to be updated ("perfect" and "nightcore").
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Added quite a few new strings for updater logic.
"osu! is up-to-date! You are now running {0}."
What is written in {0}? The version number? I translated this with assumption that it's a version number.
What is written in {0}? The version number? I translated this with assumption that it's a version number.
I noticed about the new translation entry for the Skin tab in Options.
I found this typo: "Options_TabSkin_CustonKey"
I found this typo: "Options_TabSkin_CustonKey"
There is also "Options_TabSkin_UpsiedDown" 
Also, see this thread to be informed about Update_Added and Update_Fixed being too narrow. So for the time being, until boxes are wider or autoresizable, you'll probably have to abbreviate or shorten your translations for these two lines.
Also, see this thread to be informed about Update_Added and Update_Fixed being too narrow. So for the time being, until boxes are wider or autoresizable, you'll probably have to abbreviate or shorten your translations for these two lines.
All text areas should be either somewhat larger or auto-sized to allow for longer translation / larger fonts / whateverXPJ38 wrote:
Also, see this thread to be informed about Update_Added and Update_Fixed being too narrow. So for the time being, until boxes are wider or autoresizable, you'll probably have to abbreviate or shorten your translations for these two lines.
Options_TabSkin_Special has changed.
Finnish version is a mess, only 70% complete, and most of the translations sound stupid and/or are incorrect. Noticed a couple of troll translations as well. Not gonna bother if I have to mark down every change I make, because most of it should be re-done.
If not, I'll update it over time...
If not, I'll update it over time...
Finished Polish translation.
New strings:
A bit redundant with "SongSelection_LocalRanking" and "SongSelection_OnlineRanking" if you ask me.
A bit redundant with "SongSelection_LocalRanking" and "SongSelection_OnlineRanking" if you ask me.
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Please feel free to transfer and remove the old two. They will not be used anymore.
SongSelection_Loading is also no longer used and replaced by the loading circle, right?
Changed all rude Russian translations to their corresponding respectful forms.
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That is correct. It can be safely removed.Winshley wrote:
SongSelection_Loading is also no longer used and replaced by the loading circle, right?
SongSelection_RemoveFromFavouritesA and SongSelection_RemoveFromFavouritesB too, now that collections have replaced them?
Edit: ModSelection_Mod_NoVideo too, probably.
Edit: ModSelection_Mod_NoVideo too, probably.
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Wait until collections goes live to public before removing, though.
NoVideo can go, yes.
NoVideo can go, yes.
I'd really like to know who on Earth actually took the time to make an English "Tsundere" version of the !faq commands???
Hats off to you!
(edit: now that I think about it, did I just find 2013 April Fool's joke?)
(edit 2: yes I did. ~slowpoke)
Hats off to you!
(edit: now that I think about it, did I just find 2013 April Fool's joke?)
(edit 2: yes I did. ~slowpoke)
By April 2, there were still about 15% of the Tsundere commands that were equal to their english counterparts, so I wrote those. Group effort!
Good job there. I also love the new specially created entries
Just finished up the Filipino localisation. 
From 77% -> 100% (Game localisation)
17% -> 26% (FAQ localisation)
From 77% -> 100%
(Game localisation)17% -> 26% (FAQ localisation)
Pushed german Faq to 85% and german game localization to 100%.
Moved PH to 29% -> 40%
I made some heavy changes to finnish FAQ translations. It's only 32% tho.
For those who haven't noticed yet, three new lines have been added: Collection_EnterName, Collection_Mapset and Collection_Select.
It would be nice if we could translate the new buttons:
And this... er... text in "1.":
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/714086
(Yeah I know, the original text is supposed to be "Manage Collection", see here)
edit: it is available now.
It would be nice if we could translate the new buttons:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/714086
(Yeah I know, the original text is supposed to be "Manage Collection", see here)
edit: it is available now.
To make sure FAQs get updated between languages, when you edit a FAQ, could everyone change the row colour to the lightest shade of purple so we know to check the translation? Once it's been checked, simply change the cell back to white.
This should stop mild discrepancies in FAQs between languages.
This should stop mild discrepancies in FAQs between languages.
Sounds good to me. Will keep that in mind.
Some of the FAQ entries (e.g: "apostrophe", "alot" FAQ) doesn't really make sense.
Indonesia language never use the apostrophe other than as regular quote. There are some uncommon words in Indonesia that uses the apostrophe, but this is not applicable even with English language. (e.g: "Jum'at" in Indonesia language, meaning "Friday")
And what the heck is "alot" anyway? lol
Indonesia language never use the apostrophe other than as regular quote. There are some uncommon words in Indonesia that uses the apostrophe, but this is not applicable even with English language. (e.g: "Jum'at" in Indonesia language, meaning "Friday")
And what the heck is "alot" anyway? lol
If you set "MyPcSucks: 1" on your CFG file, the checkbox will become available again. Disabling this, exit Options menu, and then return to Options menu, and you'll see the checkbox gone by the wind._Gezo_ wrote:
Also, shouldn't the "Low End PC" entry disappear ? There's no use anymore (Used to be in Options but now, it's gone)
That's something weird, but if it's supposed to stay, it'll stay.
I have been told by _Gezo_ in a GDrive comment that the taiko spinner is actually called a denden (it's even written in the wiki but I didn't notice, duh). Entry #244 (see below) still uses the term "spinner". Do you think it would be relevant to replace the word spinner by denden, or should we leave it as it is for the sake of clarity (not sure if people actually know what a denden refers to)?
"Relax! You will no longer get dizzyfied by ninja-like spinners, demanding drumrolls or unexpected katu's.
** UNRANKED **"
How about "dendens (spinners)"? Putting both words could help.XPJ38 wrote:
I have been told by _Gezo_ in a GDrive comment that the taiko spinner is actually called a denden (it's even written in the wiki but I didn't notice, duh). Entry #244 (see below) still uses the term "spinner". Do you think it would be relevant to replace the word spinner by denden, or should we leave it as it is for the sake of clarity (not sure if people actually know what a denden refers to)?"Relax! You will no longer get dizzyfied by ninja-like spinners, demanding drumrolls or unexpected katu's.
** UNRANKED **"
better leave them as spinners, takes much less effort to perceive
Yeah, you're probably right.
I'm willing to work on Hebrew Translation, but I would like to know if osu system supports right to left languages, else it will look like gibberish.
*Removed !faq dictionary - !faq HL does the same thing
why this exists if cannot be translated?
also, saw the tsundere translation for the FAQ, and lol'd like hell
Probably should post this here.
Added !faq get-maps (basically a more concise combination of !faq download and !faq import to teach newbies how to get more beatmaps)
Added !faq get-maps (basically a more concise combination of !faq download and !faq import to teach newbies how to get more beatmaps)
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It's used by osu! to determine where the menu tips end, so they can be indefinitely expanded. I added it to the spreadsheet as I have increased automation in the import process, so internal variables are also read from the spreadsheet.DJ Angel wrote:
why this exists if cannot be translated?
also, saw the tsundere translation for the FAQ, and lol'd like hell
I actually thought these kind of objects could be externally added, since they are the same for every language and its the first one I see since the beginning of this project, I think.peppy wrote:
It's used by osu! to determine where the menu tips end, so they can be indefinitely expanded. I added it to the spreadsheet as I have increased automation in the import process, so internal variables are also read from the spreadsheet.
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I don't see the issue.
PH locaisation is back to 100%, peppy
o7
Special thanks to Zaphirox for almost completing the Filipino FAQ in less than a day!
I'd buy you supporter if i had the funds :/
I'd buy you supporter if i had the funds :/
We can get rid of these altogether now, right? Collections make them obsolete and unused.
XPJ>Check out greentext and newrank, these might need two or three things. Look at approved too for an info I just thrown here.
About approved, was it mentioned already in the thread that it needs to be changed a little bit ? I mean, since approval is only for Marathon maps... :V
About approved, was it mentioned already in the thread that it needs to be changed a little bit ? I mean, since approval is only for Marathon maps... :V
Thanks for pointing that out, I have changed them a bit._Gezo_ wrote:
XPJ>Check out greentext and newrank, these might need two or three things. Look at approved too for an info I just thrown here.
I have also translated the few remaining non-translated French strings in the !faq spreadsheet.
With the danger of making a fool of myself
where is the !faq spreadsheet ?
where is the !faq spreadsheet ?
It's next to ingame localisation (there are tabs in the bottom).bomber34 wrote:
With the danger of making a fool of myself
where is the !faq spreadsheet ?
I just translated the three strings that wasn't translated yet to Spanish In gameplay I mean
Thank you very much :3TicClick wrote:
It's next to ingame localisation (there are tabs in the bottom).
translated around 10% of the missing german FAQ and corrected some entries
EDIT: german section is almost complete
i'm currently doing some changes on the osu! localisation docs. too many typos and grammar errors on filipino language xD
ok done
ok done
Any opinions on merging name-change and change-name FAQ entries? I believe one of them should be removed. I also suggest doing the same for guide and tutorial (just add link to tutorials thread to the list of guides instead).
name-change and change-name have been merged into change-name. guide and tutorial serve slightly different purposes, and can probably be merged too, but I'm not sure of the best way to do that yet.
Changed Options_Graphics_Snaking_Tooltip from "This should run fine unless you have an ancient machine" to "This should run fine unless you have a low-end PC" in response to this thread.
but duplicates in this case don't do any harm. If you quickly want to faq people, you don't want to risk getting the wrong faq.MillhioreF wrote:
name-change and change-name have been merged into change-name. guide and tutorial serve slightly different purposes, and can probably be merged too, but I'm not sure of the best way to do that yet.
well we can add as many duplicates as we want, but they should be written in the same manner as color and colour are done.
yeah, that's actually the faq I duplicated there :p.TicClick wrote:
well we can add as many duplicates as we want, but they should be written in the same manner as color and colour are done.
If guide and tutorial are identical, then they should both be kept imo.
actually, I prefer name-change over change-name. I believe moderators use it more often too. o:
Just now, someone typed highlight and showing "Entry not found". He had to use hl to display the actual FAQ instead. =S
Yeah, we definitely need more duplicates.
or spend more time messaging banchobot to see what faq to use.
or spend more time messaging banchobot to see what faq to use.
And also SongSelection_RemovedFromFavouritesA, SongSelection_RemovedFromFavouritesB, SongSelection_RemoveFromFavouritesA, SongSelection_RemoveFromFavouritesB?MillhioreF wrote:
We can get rid of these altogether now, right? Collections make them obsolete and unused.
loled at the !faq swag
To the clever Spanish speaking guy who translated "pie" literally as CAKE ... wtf? seriously. Is it that hard to check these things before making changes?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pie_chart
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%A1fico_circular
pfff... someone has made a lot of silly changes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pie_chart
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%A1fico_circular
pfff... someone has made a lot of silly changes.
right then lads.
+Added Arabic (ar)
+Added Nicer Bancho (BETA) (nb)
+Added massive amounts of FAQ content for nb
*Changed 'tldr' to 'longlink'
*Updated the 'multi' for most langauges
+Added 'organisation'
*Synced 'organisation' with 'organization'
*Fixed 'color' and 'colour' sync on a bunch of new languages
*Fixed conditional formatting for the entire spreadsheet
*Added a few faqs in ar for the N/A faqs
+Purchased EagleThunder supporter for 2 months
-Remove 'vent'
*Updated 'admin'
*Pushed these updates to Bancho at 8:55:55PM, UTC +8
I'd like to thank EagleThunder for all the hard work he's done translating the Arabic FAQ! If you see him around, say hi!
+Added Arabic (ar)
+Added Nicer Bancho (BETA) (nb)
+Added massive amounts of FAQ content for nb
*Changed 'tldr' to 'longlink'
*Updated the 'multi' for most langauges
+Added 'organisation'
*Synced 'organisation' with 'organization'
*Fixed 'color' and 'colour' sync on a bunch of new languages
*Fixed conditional formatting for the entire spreadsheet
*Added a few faqs in ar for the N/A faqs
+Purchased EagleThunder supporter for 2 months
-Remove 'vent'
*Updated 'admin'
*Pushed these updates to Bancho at 8:55:55PM, UTC +8
I'd like to thank EagleThunder for all the hard work he's done translating the Arabic FAQ! If you see him around, say hi!
*Re-worded nb:achievement
*Saved a copy of the spreadsheet as a backup
*Saved a copy of the spreadsheet as a backup
dkun renamed how-to-admin to how-to-gmt and I added faq gmt:
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added czechoslovak and ReVeNg3r translated it and other czechoslovak faqs.
The [https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Global_Moderation_Team Global Moderation Team], in short[https://osu.ppy.sh/g/4 GMT], a group of users that help run osu!. They have red names in chat and green names on the forums.I'm sure it can be improved a bit.
These guys help moderate the forum and chat.
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added czechoslovak and ReVeNg3r translated it and other czechoslovak faqs.
I removed Slovak column and renamed Czech to Czechoslovak for our channel.I will add some FAQs in slovak and czech language.
+Addded 'completion'
*Pushed to Bancho at 11:00:00PM, UTC+8
Note that this feature is also in beta, and might explode. Do not attempt to edit this line, as it juggles a a few different formulas. What it attempts to do is enable people to check the status of the localisations while still in osu!
*Pushed to Bancho at 11:00:00PM, UTC+8
Note that this feature is also in beta, and might explode. Do not attempt to edit this line, as it juggles a a few different formulas. What it attempts to do is enable people to check the status of the localisations while still in osu!
+Re-added tsundere FAQ
*Updated wording on 'completion'
*Pushed to Bancho at 9:26:55AM, UTC+8
*Updated wording on 'completion'
*Pushed to Bancho at 9:26:55AM, UTC+8
*Fixed the alignment of the tsundere FAQ
*Pushed to Bancho at 9:33:01AM, UTC+8
*Pushed to Bancho at 9:33:01AM, UTC+8
I finished the Arabic FAQ translating. If there is more to do i'd be glad to help .
.ph faq is now complete
*Re-worded 'completion'
*Pushed to Bancho at 4:45:35PM, UTC+8
*Pushed to Bancho at 4:45:35PM, UTC+8
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For what it's worth, I removed the "snapshot" tables. They are now stored in a separate document. Ask if any rollbacks/restorations are necessary.
fixed mumble ph not loading the site itself to Ang detalye kung saan makikita ang osu!mumble ay makikita sa [https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/116822 dito]
Will we be able to translate the Nicer Bancho and Tsundere Bancho?
I remember there was a Spanish tsundere Bancho. I wonder what happened to it.
I proofread the entire French translation btw
I proofread the entire French translation btw
Because all of the tsundere FAQs were deleted, we had to dive into the backups to get the english one back - i'm not entirely sure if anyone has a backup of the other languages of it though.
On another note, just remember Nicer Bancho was a side project of mine, so i'll slowly work on it when I have time
On another note, just remember Nicer Bancho was a side project of mine, so i'll slowly work on it when I have time
I do! I'm keeping local backups just in case (I even have one of November 2012kingking9 wrote:
i'm not entirely sure if anyone has a backup of the other languages of it though.
)If anyone wants to reimport the Spanish tsundere banchobot, help yourself: http://puu.sh/3822x.xlsx (backup of May 11, 2013)
Expect it to be active in the next three hours.
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ts was removed for a reason. please do not add back without consulting with others.
Nice Banchobot
oh well it will be so nice to have a good conversation with a bot
those feels
oh well it will be so nice to have a good conversation with a bot
those feels
Is the transition from the old Bancho to the new Nicer Bancho permanent? Thinking about updating the translation accordingly.
New strings:
Options_RunUpdater Run osu! updaterBe sure to read my comment in Google Doc to understand what the score meter is.
Options_TabSkin_ScoreMeter Show score meter: