1. MawareMiX (4.29 stars, 1696 notes)

Standard diff by jonathanlfj

9★ MawareMiX (aka Oni) by me

Rank log owo

qoot8123 #1
mintong89 #2
DakeDekaane #3 (#1)
Stefan #4 (#2)
kanpakyin Approved!
Onosakihito Disqualified ;w;
Nwolf #5 (#1)
mingmichael owo...?
Loctav Disqualified again because baka ;w;
mingmichael #6 (#1)
Nwolf #7 (#2)
qoot8123 Approved again!

Special thanks to the bats/qats above who helped to push this map into rankage :3

Mintong wrote:

2nd, pro map app plz

Stefan wrote:

MawareMawareMawareMawareMawareMawareMawareMawareMawareMaware------------------------ well, let's mod this!

00:20:503 (74,75,76,77,78) - this actually should be kdkdk, similar example: 00:18:847 (62,63,64,65,66) hm i'm following the whirling sounds that goes up here. I didn't follow it at 00:18:847 because it wasn't significant enuf ;w;
00:28:468 - d here? to follow the bleep here nope i don't intend to follow the bleep here. its nonstop 1/4 all the way so mapping it here but not other places sounds strange D:
00:31:675 (157) - k here to emphasize the vocals better. i don't want to emphasize the vocals though D: its all d here to follow the strong bass
01:00:020 (84) - That circle doesn't really fit here imo see 00:56:709, i changed the note to a d but hey, i might still delete the note in the future if following the vocals seem to be better
02:39:123 - 02:52:778 - YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THAT SV pls normal sv is too mainstream. we need more freaking dense 0.75
02:39:606 (74,75) - I'd find the 1/6 effect better if you let these two out. really want to keep the combo-breaking troll 1/6 tho :v
02:46:227 (119,120) - same here ^
04:13:468 - I personally think this part has until 04:20:089 has way more potential to be mapped with Doubles. it currently feels boring to play, and it's like the only part of the whole map which feels like that. screw this i really it when people say that my maps are boring, but at least i'll know i need to improve in these places so meh well you're right i kinda simply stuffed this part with random patterns, will think another way to map it tho, doubles all the way sounds pretty boring too to me :p

MawareMawareMawareMawareMawareMawareMawareMawareMawareMaware------------------------ well, good luck here! MawareMawareMawareMawareMawareMawareMawareMawareMawareMaware------------------------ to you too!

cdhsausageboy wrote:

EDIT: being less rude

Stefan wrote:

cdhsausageboy wrote:

EDIT: being less rude

lol wwwwwwww

lZenxl wrote:

wow such remix amaze

[Too lazy to write difficulty name]

00:26:089 - You sure you want to have these on blue lines? They can be barely heard in the music following vocals closely here. the people who listened to the original maware will probably get used to it immediately
00:42:227 (47) - The kats on 00:42:020 (45,46) - are replacing note 47, which sounds.... a bit weird for me, I suggest 00:41:813 (43,44,45,46,47) - to change to kkddk hm...used ddkkd instead
00:55:778 (59) - Move right by 1/2 | There's a bass in the music that you missed and that current timing point doesn't have a significant instrument bu...but it feels better with the vocals now ;w;
01:11:089 (48,49) - Swap | Ending the kat rhythm here with the kat on the blue line is pretty awkward not soothing to the ears i don't get your reasoning D: now thats awkward
01:14:709 (60) - d > D | Due to the sound effect in the music that drags on for a bit sorry i want to keep all the notes here small ><
01:59:606 - This part feels undermapped for me owo i wanted to 01:59:813 more hence the lack to notes
02:17:296 (47,48,49) - Remove | This stream here is linking 2 rhythms together, I suggest to remove these notes to break the link owo ok
02:31:985 - This pattern fits the music more - http://puu.sh/8Pv7O.png changed!
02:37:468 (67) - Extend to 02:38:089 - hm...im following the "su" in the vocals here which is only until 02:37:985 , but i might change it if moar people mention it
02:55:985 (20) - This kat rhythm here ends on a blue line, I suggest to end it on 02:56:295 (22) - by changing the don to a kat there i hate dkk D:
03:02:709 (64) - d > k | The kat density here is pretty low, I suggest to add a kat here to balance and keep the kat rhythm going hm the vocals here is pretty low in pitch here so i thought putting ddd d here feels good
03:13:365 (110) - Move the note to 03:12:847 - added a d there instead
03:32:089 - dem 1/3s
03:33:606 (214,215) - Swap | This sounds nicer for 3/4 signature since you might not want to have a base 1/1 kat as the rhythm "swings" k
03:39:123 (244) - d > k | Consistency with 03:40:778 (251) - mfw inconsistenty
03:47:261 (29,30) - Swap | Having the kat on 29 is breaks the kat rhythm for 3/4 imo meh tested and kd still feels better
03:52:365 (65) - d > k | This is to fill in the lack of kats here I HATE Ksssssss KILL THEM ALL KATSU jk changed
04:10:158 (159) - Remove | This kat here feels too outstanding as there is no significant instrument directly on this note there's still the weak cymbal though
04:13:468 - Oh god my ears, the vocals - You don't know how much times I've heard this freaking vocal after modding 5 same maps lol
Ears start to bleed mid kiai time rip lzenxl's ears
ded hue

[Heading of my Mod]

[I]MMoRTal[S] wrote:

From my queue

[Heading of my Mod]

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"Mware.jpg",0, 10 ~ 60 Look better imo Um this contradicts with your last mod?

00:22:778 (90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105) -

00:43:054 (53) - k It sounds more like a d to me huh
01:15:847 (63) - k daadaad d d kaakaak k k daadaad d d kaakaak k k ftw
01:17:503 (68) - d ^
01:19:158 (73) - k ^
01:20:813 (78) - d ^

01:26:296 (108) - OPPA GANGNAM STYLE OPPAI GANGNAM STYLE

01:43:882 (206,207,208) - kkd
01:49:882 (247) - k simply no because the vocal pitch at 01:50:089 is much higher than here so I mapped both 01:49:675 (246,247) - to be a don
01:51:434 (256) - k changed!
01:59:296 (304) - k
02:03:744 (335) - k why was even d
02:15:537 (34) - k hm d is better gameplay wise while k is better music wise ;w; will consider about this
02:23:503 (90) - k but the music is 02:23:399 (89,90,91,92) - is completely identical owo
02:40:778 (80,81,82,83,84,85,86) - d d d d d d k
02:47:399 (125,126,127,128,129,130,131) - ^
02:48:640 (134) - add k imo dd kk doesn't flow better than dd dk so not changing this ;w;
03:02:606 (63) - k changed
03:12:847 (109) - add k um im following the kinda 8bit sound in the music with a d so no change
03:37:882 (237) - k tbh a kdddk flows MUCH better in a 1/3 rhythm

04:10:158 (159) - OPPAAAAAAAAAAA........... GANGNAM STYLE OPPAIIIIIIIIIIIIII

04:25:882 (1) - delete spinner and add
no reason to make the map harder than it should be XD

04:50:192 (144) - k changed

05:01:054 (1) - #ok end of song ~ #lol

05:03:123 (1) - #hey wait wtf !? not the end !???? #LOL

05:09:951 (44,45,46) - kkd nope ;w; I wanted the "maware maware maware" to be mapped with a d d k feeling in 1/2 >_>
05:16:778 (82) - D will consider about this, both D and K sound fine ;w;

Good Luck ~

My Hentai Suggestion
[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"Mware.jpg",0,-100
Why ? Cause we can able to see yaya body ~ But I want to show the head ;w;

Nwolf wrote:

Luv me ;w; k ;w; (me luv bakawolf <3)

[MawamawamawamawamawamawamawamawamawamawamawamawamawamawamawareDiff]

00:22:882 (91,92,93,94,95) - Maybe change to dkkdk (consistency with previous pattern) well not exactly, but still changed stuff here
00:49:882 (11,12,13,14) - I so wish that this wasn't reasonable : D *pattern becomes 1/12 endless stream* k
02:39:330 (70,71,72,73,74,75) - Change to triplets to it's not so unexpected as in 1/4 triplets ? starting a 1/3 part with a 1/4 pattern is just being baka ;w;
02:46:227 (115,117,119) - Delete for maximum fun *hides*
03:12:227 (107,108,109,110) - Change to kats and add a note 03:12:847 - here for <reasons> kats ahoy
03:30:227 (195,196,197,198) - pls c-c-c-combo breaker k lets try to be serious here um i can pass this every time so your argument is invalid >:D
03:41:951 (1) - pls lets just say this is on purpose >:D (not to troll people though ;w;)

ok and now the fun part

01:27:330 - Maybe instead of having 1.0 have 1.4 or something, if you want to keep either this or the kiai as "ninja" notes. Think it would be better this way. (or just get rid of this green section) Will consider about this, I wanna give this part an anti-climatic feel, so 1.0 it shall be, but hey anything is subjective to change if its sucks
02:39:123 - how2screw HD players. And NM players. 3: people should learn how2read in the first place D:
03:32:089 - Too sudden sv change moar baka sv change it is
03:58:985 - Maybe 1.25 here and 1.0 on the next one? HOLY CRAP it actually becomes much better bakawolf 4 bat pls


lol the end lol ikr

gj with this and gl with rank : D gl with getting everything you have ranked you slowpoke D:

Senritsu wrote:

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[Mawaremoeoverload]

SPOILER

Not changing it to 'Utagumi Setsugetsuka - Maware! Setsugetsuka (chiptune Remix)'? according to lfj's set.
Idk about the artist, since there are 2 different types of them. (Utagumi Setsugetsuka and Harada Hitomi etc.), both are same imo, but to save the space.. lols
And about the title, yes change it. Source : http://vgmdb.net/album/41281
changed the title :3

ok now jump to real mod~ poofed lines are changed

00:59:399 add d here, hear the drum and vocal sounds there ovo meh i want to use my own pattern that doesn't follow the music but still sounds good guehuehuehuehuhue
01:25:468 (100,101,102,103,104,106) - change t kat? lols if you hear it closely tho, there's like.. another type of drum (idk what's that called orz). try to make it differ lols i dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddon't want to change it D: *slapped*
02:07:365 (362) - change to don, the drum changes from the lighter one to a heavier one. >< need to consider about this though. well kkkkd alone plays better than kkkdd, and i wanna give 02:07:468 a more heavy feel :3

tho why getting slower with the very last kiai part ovo it seems fun to make an SV change there /runs/ owo? i don't really get what you mean...

gl for rank i support you <3 thanks for star and support <3

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bbj0920 wrote:

lol hi there I don't really like this remix but let's get it started

MawaRemix

SPOILER

00:23:503 (97) - k k
00:23:813 (100) - ^ meh the pitch is still kinda low compared with 00:23:709 so keeping the don here
00:24:847 (108) - ^ it just doesn't play that well D:
00:41:813 (43) - ^ both d and k sound fine so um gonna keep d for now, might change it later though~
00:59:296 (80) - d this is for contrast with 00:58:365 (74,75) (aka mirror pattern)
02:15:537 (34) - k d is for da bass
02:53:192 (4) - ^ B...but it sounds nice! >w<
05:16:778 (82) - ^ (This part is silent) It signifies the end of the song nicely though :>
ew 1.5xew 1.0x
but yeah this is great

Genocide wrote:

mawaaareeemawaaaareeeee:C

Noob mod here

00:19:468 (67,68) - ctrl + g pitch relevance
00:19:778 (69,70,71,72) - dddk b...but dkdk flows better with the previous kd ;w; its like a mini "play this single handed!" challenge lol
00:57:951 (72) - kat wasn't this k before D:
01:02:503 (96,97,98) - ddd i wanted to use k to emphasize the strong beats at (96,98) though
01:50:606 (251,252) - ctrl + g i copied 1811's pattern fite me
02:07:675 (1) - delete this please no
03:35:330 (227) - delete | only 3 kats stream are enough i really wanted to keep the 5 note 1/6 pattern consistency here so nope ;w;
03:38:640 (244) - delete | 03:38:709 (244) - big kat ^

mintong89 wrote:

Hi.

[General]
Hitsound Volume -30%? It's quite loud imo. Reduced the volume in the calm parts by 20% and the rest by 10%, made some adjustments in volumes at some other parts too
Disable Combo Colour. These aren't used at Taiko. lol disabled
OD & HP +1? Since this is for approved so I think it's fine with this. But I use OD5HP5 for everything I map ;w; k decided to put OD6 HP6.5 for the lols

[MawaReMix]

01:09:537 (37,38,39,40) - kkd k to fit better with vocal? used kkk k ;w;

The map generally is fine. =w=

call me back then.

DakeDekaane wrote:

Shouldn't artist be "Utagumi Setsugetsuka"?

lol barely passed

Senritsu wrote:

DakeDekaane wrote:

Shouldn't artist be "Utagumi Setsugetsuka"?

Both are fine.
Proof -> https://osu.ppy.sh/s/131882, https://osu.ppy.sh/s/122674
Oficial -> http://vgmdb.net/album/41281
Look at the Notes, it says 'Utagumi Setsugetsuka is Yaya (CV: Hitomi Harada), Irori (CV: Ai Kayano), Komurasaki (CV: Yui Ogura)'
I think both are fine, as long as cdh add the performers name's (which is not yet to be done)
But it's up to you BAT guys, you guys know it better.

Edit

lol barely passed

KSHR wrote:

About metadata stuff.

Web sites such as download services, wikipedia CAN'T be a source because they are NOT official. If you are unsure if a web site you found is official, ask native Japanese people first before mentioning in your mod post.

MMzz wrote:

02:39:348 (70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77) - These doesn't fit the music at all. The wubs are going 1/3 not 1/6.
02:42:658 (90,91,92,93,94,95) - 1/6 swing rhythm doesn't even match the music and is almost impossible to read at the slow SV. There should be another 1/3 stream here similar to 02:40:796 (80,81,82,83,84,85,86) - .
02:44:245 (99,100) - ^ seriously.
02:45:969 (111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118) - Need to be removed again.
02:50:728 (141,142,143,144,145,146,147) - This can be 1/4 instead of 1/6 since 1/6 doesn't work at all still.

If he forms this section more like he did with this pattern: 02:47:417 (121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131) - It would be better and more fun to play.

Unrelated to the slow section: 03:35:348 (227) - Remove this because it isn't in the music. Unnecessary difficulty.
03:38:658 (245) - ^
03:41:969 (1) - ^
03:48:589 (38) - ^
03:51:555 (58,59,60,61,62,63,64) - Bad overmap. Make it more appropriate to the song -> http://puu.sh/bCBAL/2c81b7bc27.png
03:55:210 (82) - Remove again.
03:58:521 (106) - ^

DakeDekaane wrote:

ヽ(´□｀。)ﾉ

Bubble must be popped because offset is too early, use 8521. done

Discussed a bit with other people and this is what they said.

MMzz wrote:

02:39:348 (70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77) - These doesn't fit the music at all. The wubs are going 1/3 not 1/6. I was trying to follow the rapid "wubb" sound from the beginning of the kiai, but yeah the 1/3 ones feel more noticeable to be mapped. Changed!
02:42:658 (90,91,92,93,94,95) - 1/6 swing rhythm doesn't even match the music and is almost impossible to read at the slow SV. There should be another 1/3 stream here similar to 02:40:796 (80,81,82,83,84,85,86) - .yep done
02:44:245 (99,100) - ^ seriously. Can't agree with this ;w; With the slowdown this looks like a little 1/8 inside of a normal 1/4 pattern, I don't see how it's exceptionally hard to read (especially with all the omfgmuchcombobreaking 1/6+1/4 maps ranked lately)
02:45:969 (111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118) - Need to be removed again.
02:50:728 (141,142,143,144,145,146,147) - This can be 1/4 instead of 1/6 since 1/6 doesn't work at all still.

If he forms this section more like he did with this pattern: 02:47:417 (121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131) - It would be better and more fun to play. .-.

Unrelated to the slow section: 03:35:348 (227) - Remove this because it isn't in the music. Unnecessary difficulty. changed this and the three ^s below
03:38:658 (245) - ^
03:41:969 (1) - ^
03:48:589 (38) - ^
03:51:555 (58,59,60,61,62,63,64) - Bad overmap. Make it more appropriate to the song -> http://puu.sh/bCBAL/2c81b7bc27.png eh used 5plet kats instead to emphasize the "meow" hope you don't hate on it :<
03:55:210 (82) - Remove again. done this and below
03:58:521 (106) - ^

Also some suggestions from myself:

00:13:054 (27) - Shouldn't this be a kat? meh i following the floating-like sound that goes up
00:29:709 (132,134) - Remove these ones so you both reduce the stream a bit and follow vocals better. why the hell did i map these ;w; Thanks for spotting this orz Changed!
00:41:813 (43,44,45,46,47) - I think this should be kkddk to keep your kat structure here. but the current pattern (ddkkd) emphasizes the high pitched 8bit sound better >_> who cares about structure ahahaha
00:48:330 - 00:48:537 - I think dons would fit nicely with the stream in the music. added one
00:55:675 - I found this a bit weird as you ignore this strong beat, how about change 00:55:675 (58,59,60,61,62,63) - from dd dk k d to d dd kk d
did your rhythm but changed to dk kd since dd kk plays really, really weird to me orz
01:06:847 (16) - I think a kat would complement the previous kkd better
01:10:571 (43) - Considering you're following the high pitched instrument it'd be better to move this 1/4 beat back to keep following it. it plays kinda bad since it will be a "2plet-6plet" which isn't that feasible orz
01:30:330 (129,130) - This is really awkward as vocals are the same and you made this pattern different, make dk pls. peaches...i mean pitches though
01:36:950 (167,168) - ^ ^
02:44:089 (98,99,100,101,102,103,104) - This would fit better as a 1/3 stream, it won't be that unreadable and still fitting the song. zz see my reply at mitten's point, providing a little reading challenge wouldn't hurt @@
02:48:434 (128,129,130,131) - A ddd k would fit better both vocals and the instrumental than a dd dk. yep this part feels strange to me before as well. Changed!
03:00:123 - I think you should add a note here to make it consistent with previous ddddk pattern, obviously, remove the finisher if you do. I want to keep the finisher for the "ding" sound though ;w;
03:01:468 (56,57,58,59) - Kinda the same here, a dk dk pattern would be better here for vocals. ^
03:12:847 - Missing note? i'm a baka
03:13:365 (110) - Remove? There that noise though ;w;
03:15:020 (116) - ^While the music does have nothing to support a note here, not mapping it simply feels too empty since I've been keeping the 3/4 rhythm from 03:12:245
03:16:365 (121) - A don would fit better here and also would make more sense with the "extra" sound in the music. but the kats here are already used to emphasize the higher sound ;w;
03:16:985 (124) - A don would be better to separate both sections in the music better. done!
04:29:088 (16,17) - Change to dk as I explained before But I didn't change it lol
04:35:708 (55,56) - ^ ^

uguu dake chan moeness too kawaii uguu

cdhsausageboy wrote:

Well had access to my father's lappy for a day...UPDATED.

Got rid of all of the "hard to read" 1/6s, hope no one is sad about it ;w;

Come at me bats

cdhsausageboy wrote:

Come at me bats

cdhsausageboy wrote:

Come at me bats

cdhsausageboy wrote:

Deleted lines are changed uguu

Stefan wrote:

00:36:658 - Personally I find the SV a bit too high at being natural, I suggest decreasing 1.10x, the more intensive part where you can use 1.20x would be the other Kiai parts. eh x1.1 looks too slow compared to the hype so um compromised with x1.15 instead
01:07:176 (18) - Remove? 01:07:072 (17) should stay alone to have more impact with 01:07:279 (19,20,21,22,23) then. I want to keep the 7-note patterns here because cool ;w;
01:08:831 (31) - same reason as above. ^
02:39:141 - 02:52:383 - *sigh* they are clearer to read at 0.95x SV on 02:39:141. trolling on purpose, sry :/
02:40:245 (75,76) - (75) should be moved at the following white tick while (76) should be mapped at 1/2 on the following red tick (02:40:589). I can't hear anything out here what fills 1/3 here. adjusted stuff a bit so they play the same like the "ma-wa-re" ddk later
02:46:866 (113,114) - ^ ^
03:05:624 - imo I am not sure if this should stay here since 03:05:624 (81) is slowed and part of this stream pattern. would make it better if you put the 1.00x SV at 03:05:934 (82). moved the green line to 03:05:934 while leaving the notes unchanged cos snare ;w;
03:45:348 - ;____; what is this.. as much I dislike this I won't complain much about this section. but I find 1.50x too fast, use 1.40x instead. That looks clearer. This SV is on purpose to make the 1/6s look like 1/4 which um looks really cool ;w;


Well, that's it. Mostly the SV issues should be fixed since they fix some issues and/or cause better gameplay. Poke me after you've fixed your map.

1. 02:35:831 - Remove this inherited point and replace with the 0.9x inherited point from 1 measure before
2. 02:38:314 - and 02:39:141 - +0.05x

1. 03:32:521 - and 03:32:796 - remove the 0.75x and optionally the 0.8x.
2. Assuming you deleted only 0.75x, go from 0.84x on 03:44:934 - and increase by 0.04x per point
3. Assuming you deleted both, go from 0.92x on 03:44:934 - and increase by 0.02x per point

1. Keep current inherited points but add one of 0.8x at 03:38:727 - and one of 0.9x at 03:43:693 - (or on the note before this whatever)
2. Then you can make the next inherited point 0.92x and go from there to 1x as second point of idea 1 is described.

Stefan wrote:

I have asked #taiko out about their opinion about 02:39:141 and also 01:10:589 (43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50) since the overlap between (49,50) needs to be fixed as well.

SPOILER

11:31 Nwolf: 01:11:417 - very critical here imo
11:34 Nwolf: 03:44:934 - and then here again
11:34 Ekoro: that 1/3 part is weird
11:35 Ekoro: with the SV it can be mistaken for 1/4
11:40 Stefan: 01:11:417 - is okay, 03:44:93 - could really cause trouble
11:41 Nwolf: I think the first overlaps too much
11:41 Stefan: I don't know... I love when people use SV changes to do cool stuff
11:41 Stefan: But they should be natural
11:41 Nwolf: yeah it is cool stuff there
11:41 Nwolf: if it didn't overlap so much :<
11:42 Dainesl: wait wat
11:42 Nwolf: cdh's map Dain
11:42 Dainesl: ah
11:42 Dainesl: I can chip in if you want
11:42 Stefan: Would be great
11:43 Stefan: because I have doubts in giving the second bubble.
11:43 LunaticP: HI #taiko
11:43 Dainesl: I'll have a little testplay of it just to see what's up now
11:45 Nwolf: 01:10:176 - From here I would reduce the SV a little bit with each note
11:46 Dainesl: wait
11:47 Dainesl: 01:13:072 - what about 0.8x here
11:47 Dainesl: 01:11:417 - change to 0.9x
11:48 Dainesl: i dunno, just another way of dealing with overlap while giving the notes at the timestamp Nwolf mentioned equal emphasis
11:49 Nwolf: or that
11:49 Dainesl: well there is still SLIGHT overlap
11:50 Dainesl: but the note becomes clear in time I feel
11:51 Dainesl: what do you think stops it from the 2nd bubble @ Stefan
11:51 Stefan: 02:39:141 - & 03:45:348 -
11:51 Stefan: It personally reads badly, not hard
11:52 Stefan: hard would be someone subjective which shouldn't prevent being bubbled
11:53 Dainesl: personally I wasn't really confused by this reading
11:53 Dainesl: but I can see the potential issues
11:53 Dainesl: maybe it's that the SV is too low or something so it looks like 1/4

Let's slay it out more:
01:10:589 (43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50) - like said this should/needs to be fixed to prevent overlapping on (49,50). A line on 01:10:589 - with 0.9x SV should solve this issue and looks natural enough. made 01:11:417 - x0.9 and 01:11:831 - x0.8 instead, this should be perfectly fine since your suggestion and my solution are both "change the note after 1/2 to x0.9" (k idk how to express stuff)
01:40:693 (192,193) - Switch them? I think I can hear out what's your intention in this stream but these two should be swapped then. b....but this plays extremely well >_> i mostly get rekt by the map with dt but i can fc this part literally every time and changing it really breaks my flow ;w;
03:30:245 (196,197,198,199) - this isn't anyhow related to the song putting 1/6 here. change this to 1/4. k

We've got to do something about the SV issues here, seriously. That isn't anymore about trolling with the SV or to call this has hard to read. The main issue is it looks not good and misplaced. Please excuse me when it sounds harsh but I want to clear out why I am worried about this and don't bubbled yet. I hope you can understand my sight about this case. Dainesl posted suggestions about some parts which are pretty good and STILL keep your intention to "troll" with SV. no kd hmmmmmmmmmmm probably going to discuss further for the wubwub part, not really going to touch anything now, sorry ;w;

1. Disqualified for several SV issues and more:
2. 02:32:521 - Bugged barline which can be fixed by moving the inherited timeline forward.
3. 02:51:348 (140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,1,1) - This might be an subjecitce view but patterns with 1/3+1/4+SV changes+spinner are more than questionable. Everything is on a small spot which makes it really confusing. Short spinners are normaly something we should prevent. We also have it written down in the guidelines:
   

   Taiko Ranking Criteria wrote:

   Shakers (Spinners)
   Try to leave at least a 1/2 beat between a note and a spinner. Using them on streams may be okay. Short spinners are highly not recommended, since they cover the notes and can cause players to miss due to pressing too much.

4. 03:31:899 (210,211) - This should be made smoother. In the additional modding I have some examples.
5. 03:38:314 (240,241,242,243,244) - Transition isn't here smooth either.
6. 03:43:278 (5,6) - What happened here? Transition is really bad. Timeline is probably -1ms too late.
7. 04:08:521 - Bugged barline which can be fixed by moving the inherited timeline forward.
8. 04:56:521 - ^

1. 00:48:658 (1,2,3,4) - No 1/6, but should be fine I guess. Just wanted to mention it.
2. 00:49:693 (10) - Can be deleted. The transition doesn't look that nice from one to the other stanza because of the SV change. In case you are thinking about adding another SV change here for compensaiting this, I say, I wouldn't suggest you to do that. There is no real sound for this note anyway, and in this way both parts are seperated to each other in a better way (people can prepare for the 1/6 in a better way).
3. 00:49:900 - These kind of patterns are something I wouldn't support that much. But well, since it is monotonically it might be fine. You can reconsider it once again.
4. 01:11:417 - Transition here isn't that nice either. Little overlapping. Can be kept as x1.00 and at 01:11:831 have x0.90(while
5. 01:12:245 is x0.80). Would fit to the stanza as well.
6. 01:27:348 - Just keep it x1.20 if you ask me. Having such short SV changes with patterns is rather questionable to me.
7. 04:01:486 - Similar to previous mentioned case. Having now a deceleration doesn't seem to fit here. Even though I might understand the intention behind it, due to deeper voice. But better keep the SV the same or something like that.

Dainesl wrote:

on cutting edge there's a ton of unsnaps being reported for some reason

OnosakiHito wrote:

Reason for Disqualification

1. Disqualified for several SV issues and more:
2. 02:32:521 - Bugged barline which can be fixed by moving the inherited timeline forward. don
3. 02:51:348 (140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,1,1) - This might be an subjecitce view but patterns with 1/3+1/4+SV changes+spinner are more than questionable. Everything is on a small spot which makes it really confusing. Short spinners are normaly something we should prevent. We also have it written down in the guidelines: Deleted the note after the spinner to give players ample space to read the next notes
4. 03:31:899 (210,211) - This should be made smoother. In the additional modding I have some examples.
5. 03:38:314 (240,241,242,243,244) - Transition isn't here smooth either.
6. 03:43:278 (5,6) - What happened here? Transition is really bad. Timeline is probably -1ms too late. Regarding the mods for this part: made the sv changes smoother for this part in general (i think) while still having the same idea
7. 04:08:521 - Bugged barline which can be fixed by moving the inherited timeline forward. don
8. 04:56:521 - ^ did what tks suggested instead

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Additional Modding

Small modding. Didn't mentioned everything since I don't have much time.

1. 00:48:658 (1,2,3,4) - No 1/6, but should be fine I guess. Just wanted to mention it. yup its fine and cool
2. 00:49:693 (10) - Can be deleted. The transition doesn't look that nice from one to the other stanza because of the SV change. In case you are thinking about adding another SV change here for compensaiting this, I say, I wouldn't suggest you to do that. There is no real sound for this note anyway, and in this way both parts are seperated to each other in a better way (people can prepare for the 1/6 in a better way). eh but ;w; The pace in this kiai is pretty fast compared to the intro and the part after it so having a break won't fit really well >_> Not changing this for now since its not really game-breaking, but eh I might still change my mind later
3. 00:49:900 - These kind of patterns are something I wouldn't support that much. But well, since it is monotonically it might be fine. You can reconsider it once again. um no
4. 01:11:417 - Transition here isn't that nice either. Little overlapping. Can be kept as x1.00 and at 01:11:831 have x0.90(while
5. 01:12:245 is x0.80). Would fit to the stanza as well. Made 01:11:417 x0.95 to give players a hint to the slowdown part better, fixed everything else accordingly!
6. 01:27:348 - Just keep it x1.20 if you ask me. Having such short SV changes with patterns is rather questionable to me. a few people mentioned it already so yeah, changed
7. 04:01:486 - Similar to previous mentioned case. Having now a deceleration doesn't seem to fit here. Even though I might understand the intention behind it, due to deeper voice. But better keep the SV the same or something like that. but it looks really cool D:

Nwolf wrote:

woof woof BAKA woof baka indeed

[Bakadiff]

00:49:693 - Add another green bar with SV 1.07 for ~da smooth transition~ did x1.075 magic here k
05:03:555 - Add red timing section since the first beat shifted don

00:31:486 (146) - Change to kat to give ~~da bass dons~~ more emphasis k
01:49:900 (246) - 03:01:072 (53) - 04:48:658 (134) - idk I would've preferred kats on all these notes since you kinda have ~~~da snare rhythm~~~ here this is following ~~~da vocal pitches~~~ though
02:52:383 - Replace with another note and add 02:52:796 - something big here (preferably a big kat) i wanted to but a note there just doesn't feel as good somehow ;w;

mingmichael wrote:

finally ming comes =w= kenapa lewat =w= *me slaps*


Red ~> unrakable issue, must be changed
Blue ~> highly suggested, consider to use it
Black ~> suggestion, just free to choose it


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General

☞ okay

Notes Structure

☞ will mention many some suggestions for the SVs on the Notes box

Notes

• i agree with Ono for deleting 00:49:693 - . yeah i know that you wanna to follow the drum there or maybe you wanna fill with a note than break. yupp it's nice and i agree for adding it but i deleted this one to make the players prepare for the next patterns which start with 1/6 notes on 00:49:900 - and also it has decreasing SV there. deleting this note will help all the players especially for having a preparation to face the next patterns. anyway deleting this note doesn't hurt your patterns too *sighs* fixed

• a kat on 01:49:900 - please. the vocal has increased here even it's lower than 01:50:107 - though 01:50:107 's pitch is really much higher and i simply need to take that into account so having only that as a kat will describe the overall flow better (dddk-> gradually low to high but ddkk-> half low half high )

• reverse these notes 01:58:072 (294,295) - . no idea for using oo since the snare comes out on 01:58:176 - and it would be better with a kat like 01:56:521 - pretty sure it was dk before lol. fixed!

• a kat 02:44:934 - . first to avoid that dondon everywhere =w= and second it could follow like a snare sound (?) which comes out there. same like 02:43:279 - which you used kat on katsus are cool

• add 0.80x on 02:50:365 - and change 02:50:727 - to be 0.85x. the function is to make the SV changes softer, especially from 02:50:727 - to 02:51:348 - when the notes are already dense with 1/4. so i increased the speed on 02:50:727 - and it would have a small increasing SV to 02:51:348 - (from 0.85x to 0.90x, just 0.05 changes) the timestamp you suggested isn't snapped lol did everything but had the 0.8 at 02:50:107 instead, hope it works too！

• here, a kat on 03:01:072 - . the vocal has increased a bit here. it can follow the snare sound too, but it's not really important since you don't really focus on it basically denied with the same reasoning as before

• this SV changes are too sudden on 03:43:555 - . actually it's no problem, but it would be better to make it a bittttt softer. it's easy, just add 1.10x on 03:43:072 - . the previous one is 1.00x ~> 1.15x , and now it will be 1.00x ~> 1.10x ~> 1.15x did something really similar

• no for these SV changes 04:01:486 - ; 04:01:693 - ; 04:01:900 - . the notes are almost overlapped there. okay, it's not problem to keep that decreasing SV there, but you must do this. add 1.15x on 04:00:245 - which is fit with the stanza and change those three SV changes 04:01:486 - ; 04:01:693 - ; 04:01:900 - to be 1.10x ; 1.05x and 1.00x. you can see the result later and try to compare with yours looks cool i guess

• aha a kat on 04:48:658 - . same reason like the previous points aha

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let me decide this after you take a look my mods