Senritsu wrote:

DakeDekaane wrote:

Shouldn't artist be "Utagumi Setsugetsuka"?

Both are fine.
Proof -> https://osu.ppy.sh/s/131882, https://osu.ppy.sh/s/122674
Oficial -> http://vgmdb.net/album/41281
Look at the Notes, it says 'Utagumi Setsugetsuka is Yaya (CV: Hitomi Harada), Irori (CV: Ai Kayano), Komurasaki (CV: Yui Ogura)'
I think both are fine, as long as cdh add the performers name's (which is not yet to be done)
But it's up to you BAT guys, you guys know it better.

Edit

lol barely passed

KSHR wrote:

About metadata stuff.

Web sites such as download services, wikipedia CAN'T be a source because they are NOT official. If you are unsure if a web site you found is official, ask native Japanese people first before mentioning in your mod post.

MMzz wrote:

02:39:348 (70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77) - These doesn't fit the music at all. The wubs are going 1/3 not 1/6.
02:42:658 (90,91,92,93,94,95) - 1/6 swing rhythm doesn't even match the music and is almost impossible to read at the slow SV. There should be another 1/3 stream here similar to 02:40:796 (80,81,82,83,84,85,86) - .
02:44:245 (99,100) - ^ seriously.
02:45:969 (111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118) - Need to be removed again.
02:50:728 (141,142,143,144,145,146,147) - This can be 1/4 instead of 1/6 since 1/6 doesn't work at all still.

If he forms this section more like he did with this pattern: 02:47:417 (121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131) - It would be better and more fun to play.

Unrelated to the slow section: 03:35:348 (227) - Remove this because it isn't in the music. Unnecessary difficulty.
03:38:658 (245) - ^
03:41:969 (1) - ^
03:48:589 (38) - ^
03:51:555 (58,59,60,61,62,63,64) - Bad overmap. Make it more appropriate to the song -> http://puu.sh/bCBAL/2c81b7bc27.png
03:55:210 (82) - Remove again.
03:58:521 (106) - ^

DakeDekaane wrote:

ヽ(´□｀。)ﾉ

Bubble must be popped because offset is too early, use 8521. done

Discussed a bit with other people and this is what they said.

MMzz wrote:

02:39:348 (70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77) - These doesn't fit the music at all. The wubs are going 1/3 not 1/6. I was trying to follow the rapid "wubb" sound from the beginning of the kiai, but yeah the 1/3 ones feel more noticeable to be mapped. Changed!
02:42:658 (90,91,92,93,94,95) - 1/6 swing rhythm doesn't even match the music and is almost impossible to read at the slow SV. There should be another 1/3 stream here similar to 02:40:796 (80,81,82,83,84,85,86) - .yep done
02:44:245 (99,100) - ^ seriously. Can't agree with this ;w; With the slowdown this looks like a little 1/8 inside of a normal 1/4 pattern, I don't see how it's exceptionally hard to read (especially with all the omfgmuchcombobreaking 1/6+1/4 maps ranked lately)
02:45:969 (111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118) - Need to be removed again.
02:50:728 (141,142,143,144,145,146,147) - This can be 1/4 instead of 1/6 since 1/6 doesn't work at all still.

If he forms this section more like he did with this pattern: 02:47:417 (121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131) - It would be better and more fun to play. .-.

Unrelated to the slow section: 03:35:348 (227) - Remove this because it isn't in the music. Unnecessary difficulty. changed this and the three ^s below
03:38:658 (245) - ^
03:41:969 (1) - ^
03:48:589 (38) - ^
03:51:555 (58,59,60,61,62,63,64) - Bad overmap. Make it more appropriate to the song -> http://puu.sh/bCBAL/2c81b7bc27.png eh used 5plet kats instead to emphasize the "meow" hope you don't hate on it :<
03:55:210 (82) - Remove again. done this and below
03:58:521 (106) - ^

Also some suggestions from myself:

00:13:054 (27) - Shouldn't this be a kat? meh i following the floating-like sound that goes up
00:29:709 (132,134) - Remove these ones so you both reduce the stream a bit and follow vocals better. why the hell did i map these ;w; Thanks for spotting this orz Changed!
00:41:813 (43,44,45,46,47) - I think this should be kkddk to keep your kat structure here. but the current pattern (ddkkd) emphasizes the high pitched 8bit sound better >_> who cares about structure ahahaha
00:48:330 - 00:48:537 - I think dons would fit nicely with the stream in the music. added one
00:55:675 - I found this a bit weird as you ignore this strong beat, how about change 00:55:675 (58,59,60,61,62,63) - from dd dk k d to d dd kk d
did your rhythm but changed to dk kd since dd kk plays really, really weird to me orz
01:06:847 (16) - I think a kat would complement the previous kkd better
01:10:571 (43) - Considering you're following the high pitched instrument it'd be better to move this 1/4 beat back to keep following it. it plays kinda bad since it will be a "2plet-6plet" which isn't that feasible orz
01:30:330 (129,130) - This is really awkward as vocals are the same and you made this pattern different, make dk pls. peaches...i mean pitches though
01:36:950 (167,168) - ^ ^
02:44:089 (98,99,100,101,102,103,104) - This would fit better as a 1/3 stream, it won't be that unreadable and still fitting the song. zz see my reply at mitten's point, providing a little reading challenge wouldn't hurt @@
02:48:434 (128,129,130,131) - A ddd k would fit better both vocals and the instrumental than a dd dk. yep this part feels strange to me before as well. Changed!
03:00:123 - I think you should add a note here to make it consistent with previous ddddk pattern, obviously, remove the finisher if you do. I want to keep the finisher for the "ding" sound though ;w;
03:01:468 (56,57,58,59) - Kinda the same here, a dk dk pattern would be better here for vocals. ^
03:12:847 - Missing note? i'm a baka
03:13:365 (110) - Remove? There that noise though ;w;
03:15:020 (116) - ^While the music does have nothing to support a note here, not mapping it simply feels too empty since I've been keeping the 3/4 rhythm from 03:12:245
03:16:365 (121) - A don would fit better here and also would make more sense with the "extra" sound in the music. but the kats here are already used to emphasize the higher sound ;w;
03:16:985 (124) - A don would be better to separate both sections in the music better. done!
04:29:088 (16,17) - Change to dk as I explained before But I didn't change it lol
04:35:708 (55,56) - ^ ^

uguu dake chan moeness too kawaii uguu

cdhsausageboy wrote:

Well had access to my father's lappy for a day...UPDATED.

Got rid of all of the "hard to read" 1/6s, hope no one is sad about it ;w;

Come at me bats

cdhsausageboy wrote:

Come at me bats

cdhsausageboy wrote:

Come at me bats

cdhsausageboy wrote:

Deleted lines are changed uguu

Stefan wrote:

00:36:658 - Personally I find the SV a bit too high at being natural, I suggest decreasing 1.10x, the more intensive part where you can use 1.20x would be the other Kiai parts. eh x1.1 looks too slow compared to the hype so um compromised with x1.15 instead
01:07:176 (18) - Remove? 01:07:072 (17) should stay alone to have more impact with 01:07:279 (19,20,21,22,23) then. I want to keep the 7-note patterns here because cool ;w;
01:08:831 (31) - same reason as above. ^
02:39:141 - 02:52:383 - *sigh* they are clearer to read at 0.95x SV on 02:39:141. trolling on purpose, sry :/
02:40:245 (75,76) - (75) should be moved at the following white tick while (76) should be mapped at 1/2 on the following red tick (02:40:589). I can't hear anything out here what fills 1/3 here. adjusted stuff a bit so they play the same like the "ma-wa-re" ddk later
02:46:866 (113,114) - ^ ^
03:05:624 - imo I am not sure if this should stay here since 03:05:624 (81) is slowed and part of this stream pattern. would make it better if you put the 1.00x SV at 03:05:934 (82). moved the green line to 03:05:934 while leaving the notes unchanged cos snare ;w;
03:45:348 - ;____; what is this.. as much I dislike this I won't complain much about this section. but I find 1.50x too fast, use 1.40x instead. That looks clearer. This SV is on purpose to make the 1/6s look like 1/4 which um looks really cool ;w;


Well, that's it. Mostly the SV issues should be fixed since they fix some issues and/or cause better gameplay. Poke me after you've fixed your map.

1. 02:35:831 - Remove this inherited point and replace with the 0.9x inherited point from 1 measure before
2. 02:38:314 - and 02:39:141 - +0.05x

1. 03:32:521 - and 03:32:796 - remove the 0.75x and optionally the 0.8x.
2. Assuming you deleted only 0.75x, go from 0.84x on 03:44:934 - and increase by 0.04x per point
3. Assuming you deleted both, go from 0.92x on 03:44:934 - and increase by 0.02x per point

1. Keep current inherited points but add one of 0.8x at 03:38:727 - and one of 0.9x at 03:43:693 - (or on the note before this whatever)
2. Then you can make the next inherited point 0.92x and go from there to 1x as second point of idea 1 is described.

Stefan wrote:

I have asked #taiko out about their opinion about 02:39:141 and also 01:10:589 (43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50) since the overlap between (49,50) needs to be fixed as well.

SPOILER

11:31 Nwolf: 01:11:417 - very critical here imo
11:34 Nwolf: 03:44:934 - and then here again
11:34 Ekoro: that 1/3 part is weird
11:35 Ekoro: with the SV it can be mistaken for 1/4
11:40 Stefan: 01:11:417 - is okay, 03:44:93 - could really cause trouble
11:41 Nwolf: I think the first overlaps too much
11:41 Stefan: I don't know... I love when people use SV changes to do cool stuff
11:41 Stefan: But they should be natural
11:41 Nwolf: yeah it is cool stuff there
11:41 Nwolf: if it didn't overlap so much :<
11:42 Dainesl: wait wat
11:42 Nwolf: cdh's map Dain
11:42 Dainesl: ah
11:42 Dainesl: I can chip in if you want
11:42 Stefan: Would be great
11:43 Stefan: because I have doubts in giving the second bubble.
11:43 LunaticP: HI #taiko
11:43 Dainesl: I'll have a little testplay of it just to see what's up now
11:45 Nwolf: 01:10:176 - From here I would reduce the SV a little bit with each note
11:46 Dainesl: wait
11:47 Dainesl: 01:13:072 - what about 0.8x here
11:47 Dainesl: 01:11:417 - change to 0.9x
11:48 Dainesl: i dunno, just another way of dealing with overlap while giving the notes at the timestamp Nwolf mentioned equal emphasis
11:49 Nwolf: or that
11:49 Dainesl: well there is still SLIGHT overlap
11:50 Dainesl: but the note becomes clear in time I feel
11:51 Dainesl: what do you think stops it from the 2nd bubble @ Stefan
11:51 Stefan: 02:39:141 - & 03:45:348 -
11:51 Stefan: It personally reads badly, not hard
11:52 Stefan: hard would be someone subjective which shouldn't prevent being bubbled
11:53 Dainesl: personally I wasn't really confused by this reading
11:53 Dainesl: but I can see the potential issues
11:53 Dainesl: maybe it's that the SV is too low or something so it looks like 1/4

Let's slay it out more:
01:10:589 (43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50) - like said this should/needs to be fixed to prevent overlapping on (49,50). A line on 01:10:589 - with 0.9x SV should solve this issue and looks natural enough. made 01:11:417 - x0.9 and 01:11:831 - x0.8 instead, this should be perfectly fine since your suggestion and my solution are both "change the note after 1/2 to x0.9" (k idk how to express stuff)
01:40:693 (192,193) - Switch them? I think I can hear out what's your intention in this stream but these two should be swapped then. b....but this plays extremely well >_> i mostly get rekt by the map with dt but i can fc this part literally every time and changing it really breaks my flow ;w;
03:30:245 (196,197,198,199) - this isn't anyhow related to the song putting 1/6 here. change this to 1/4. k

We've got to do something about the SV issues here, seriously. That isn't anymore about trolling with the SV or to call this has hard to read. The main issue is it looks not good and misplaced. Please excuse me when it sounds harsh but I want to clear out why I am worried about this and don't bubbled yet. I hope you can understand my sight about this case. Dainesl posted suggestions about some parts which are pretty good and STILL keep your intention to "troll" with SV. no kd hmmmmmmmmmmm probably going to discuss further for the wubwub part, not really going to touch anything now, sorry ;w;

1. Disqualified for several SV issues and more:
2. 02:32:521 - Bugged barline which can be fixed by moving the inherited timeline forward.
3. 02:51:348 (140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,1,1) - This might be an subjecitce view but patterns with 1/3+1/4+SV changes+spinner are more than questionable. Everything is on a small spot which makes it really confusing. Short spinners are normaly something we should prevent. We also have it written down in the guidelines:
   

   Taiko Ranking Criteria wrote:

   Shakers (Spinners)
   Try to leave at least a 1/2 beat between a note and a spinner. Using them on streams may be okay. Short spinners are highly not recommended, since they cover the notes and can cause players to miss due to pressing too much.

4. 03:31:899 (210,211) - This should be made smoother. In the additional modding I have some examples.
5. 03:38:314 (240,241,242,243,244) - Transition isn't here smooth either.
6. 03:43:278 (5,6) - What happened here? Transition is really bad. Timeline is probably -1ms too late.
7. 04:08:521 - Bugged barline which can be fixed by moving the inherited timeline forward.
8. 04:56:521 - ^

1. 00:48:658 (1,2,3,4) - No 1/6, but should be fine I guess. Just wanted to mention it.
2. 00:49:693 (10) - Can be deleted. The transition doesn't look that nice from one to the other stanza because of the SV change. In case you are thinking about adding another SV change here for compensaiting this, I say, I wouldn't suggest you to do that. There is no real sound for this note anyway, and in this way both parts are seperated to each other in a better way (people can prepare for the 1/6 in a better way).
3. 00:49:900 - These kind of patterns are something I wouldn't support that much. But well, since it is monotonically it might be fine. You can reconsider it once again.
4. 01:11:417 - Transition here isn't that nice either. Little overlapping. Can be kept as x1.00 and at 01:11:831 have x0.90(while
5. 01:12:245 is x0.80). Would fit to the stanza as well.
6. 01:27:348 - Just keep it x1.20 if you ask me. Having such short SV changes with patterns is rather questionable to me.
7. 04:01:486 - Similar to previous mentioned case. Having now a deceleration doesn't seem to fit here. Even though I might understand the intention behind it, due to deeper voice. But better keep the SV the same or something like that.

Dainesl wrote:

on cutting edge there's a ton of unsnaps being reported for some reason