well it's already established that ai content isn't copyrightableabraker wrote:
me waiting till copyright issues in training data catches up all the AI companies to bite them in the ass
Wimpy Cursed wrote:
wtf
Man stop cyberbullying the ai wtf ;-;Winnyace wrote:
Cool. You made a song. Did you write it yourself? No. Did you put any effort into it? Also no. Should I care then, if it isn't even your creation? Fuck no.
Weeb songs are already indistinguishable from one another, if you trained an AI on those there's enough data to generate a million and no one would notice.Dementedduck wrote:
Man stop cyberbullying the ai wtf ;-;Winnyace wrote:
Cool. You made a song. Did you write it yourself? No. Did you put any effort into it? Also no. Should I care then, if it isn't even your creation? Fuck no.
Imma report you to robo-gestapo when we get robo-leaders
Edit: on a side note these songs will be indistinguishable in a few years lul
Maybe they already are o-o
honestly I wonder what is the easiest genre to create a song that could easily pass as an actual song from that genre, maybe noise? of course an AI can't be creative or produce art, however, we, as humans, can probably gaslight ourselves hard enough into seeing meaning into something that doesn't have itKarmine wrote:
Weeb songs are already indistinguishable from one another, if you trained an AI on those there's enough data to generate a million and no one would notice.Dementedduck wrote:
Man stop cyberbullying the ai wtf ;-;Winnyace wrote:
Cool. You made a song. Did you write it yourself? No. Did you put any effort into it? Also no. Should I care then, if it isn't even your creation? Fuck no.
Imma report you to robo-gestapo when we get robo-leaders
Edit: on a side note these songs will be indistinguishable in a few years lul
Maybe they already are o-o
They can produce art without being creativePatatitta wrote:
honestly I wonder what is the easiest genre to create a song that could easily pass as an actual song from that genre, maybe noise? of course an AI can't be creative or produce art, however, we, as humans, can probably gaslight ourselves hard enough into seeing meaning into something that doesn't have itKarmine wrote:
Weeb songs are already indistinguishable from one another, if you trained an AI on those there's enough data to generate a million and no one would notice.Dementedduck wrote:
Man stop cyberbullying the ai wtf ;-;Winnyace wrote:
Cool. You made a song. Did you write it yourself? No. Did you put any effort into it? Also no. Should I care then, if it isn't even your creation? Fuck no.
Imma report you to robo-gestapo when we get robo-leaders
Edit: on a side note these songs will be indistinguishable in a few years lul
Maybe they already are o-o
Bullshit genres like extratone would probably work.Dementedduck wrote:
They can produce art without being creativePatatitta wrote:
honestly I wonder what is the easiest genre to create a song that could easily pass as an actual song from that genre, maybe noise? of course an AI can't be creative or produce art, however, we, as humans, can probably gaslight ourselves hard enough into seeing meaning into something that doesn't have itKarmine wrote:
Weeb songs are already indistinguishable from one another, if you trained an AI on those there's enough data to generate a million and no one would notice.Dementedduck wrote:
Man stop cyberbullying the ai wtf ;-;Winnyace wrote:
Cool. You made a song. Did you write it yourself? No. Did you put any effort into it? Also no. Should I care then, if it isn't even your creation? Fuck no.
Imma report you to robo-gestapo when we get robo-leaders
Edit: on a side note these songs will be indistinguishable in a few years lul
Maybe they already are o-o
I think the easiest genre would actually be classical
No vocals generally, lots of info, easy to compose at a base level, etc
I know, that wasn't the intention anyway.Winnyace wrote:
Cool. You made a song. Did you write it yourself? No. Did you put any effort into it? Also no. Should I care then, if it isn't even your creation? Fuck no.
my headcanon is that extratone is a genre invented by beat saber mappers to create really dumb mapsKarmine wrote:
Bullshit genres like extratone would probably work.Dementedduck wrote:
They can produce art without being creativePatatitta wrote:
honestly I wonder what is the easiest genre to create a song that could easily pass as an actual song from that genre, maybe noise? of course an AI can't be creative or produce art, however, we, as humans, can probably gaslight ourselves hard enough into seeing meaning into something that doesn't have itKarmine wrote:
Weeb songs are already indistinguishable from one another, if you trained an AI on those there's enough data to generate a million and no one would notice.Dementedduck wrote:
Man stop cyberbullying the ai wtf ;-;Winnyace wrote:
Cool. You made a song. Did you write it yourself? No. Did you put any effort into it? Also no. Should I care then, if it isn't even your creation? Fuck no.
Imma report you to robo-gestapo when we get robo-leaders
Edit: on a side note these songs will be indistinguishable in a few years lul
Maybe they already are o-o
I think the easiest genre would actually be classical
No vocals generally, lots of info, easy to compose at a base level, etc
extratone is all about timbre and kinda fractalized repetition, ai is not good at fringe genres of music yet and it'll be a while until it gets thereKarmine wrote:
Bullshit genres like extratone would probably work.Dementedduck wrote:
They can produce art without being creativePatatitta wrote:
honestly I wonder what is the easiest genre to create a song that could easily pass as an actual song from that genre, maybe noise? of course an AI can't be creative or produce art, however, we, as humans, can probably gaslight ourselves hard enough into seeing meaning into something that doesn't have itKarmine wrote:
Weeb songs are already indistinguishable from one another, if you trained an AI on those there's enough data to generate a million and no one would notice.Dementedduck wrote:
Man stop cyberbullying the ai wtf ;-;Winnyace wrote:
Cool. You made a song. Did you write it yourself? No. Did you put any effort into it? Also no. Should I care then, if it isn't even your creation? Fuck no.
Imma report you to robo-gestapo when we get robo-leaders
Edit: on a side note these songs will be indistinguishable in a few years lul
Maybe they already are o-o
I think the easiest genre would actually be classical
No vocals generally, lots of info, easy to compose at a base level, etc
Extratone is just what you get when you want MORE BPM, but like at least 1000Patatitta wrote:
my headcanon is that extratone is a genre invented by beat saber mappers to create really dumb mapsKarmine wrote:
Bullshit genres like extratone would probably work.Dementedduck wrote:
They can produce art without being creativePatatitta wrote:
honestly I wonder what is the easiest genre to create a song that could easily pass as an actual song from that genre, maybe noise? of course an AI can't be creative or produce art, however, we, as humans, can probably gaslight ourselves hard enough into seeing meaning into something that doesn't have itKarmine wrote:
Weeb songs are already indistinguishable from one another, if you trained an AI on those there's enough data to generate a million and no one would notice.Dementedduck wrote:
Man stop cyberbullying the ai wtf ;-;Winnyace wrote:
Cool. You made a song. Did you write it yourself? No. Did you put any effort into it? Also no. Should I care then, if it isn't even your creation? Fuck no.
Imma report you to robo-gestapo when we get robo-leaders
Edit: on a side note these songs will be indistinguishable in a few years lul
Maybe they already are o-o
I think the easiest genre would actually be classical
No vocals generally, lots of info, easy to compose at a base level, etc
ai just isn't good with uncommon subjects and topicsxch00F wrote:
extratone is all about timbre and kinda fractalized repetition, ai is not good at fringe genres of music yet and it'll be a while until it gets thereKarmine wrote:
Bullshit genres like extratone would probably work.Dementedduck wrote:
They can produce art without being creativePatatitta wrote:
honestly I wonder what is the easiest genre to create a song that could easily pass as an actual song from that genre, maybe noise? of course an AI can't be creative or produce art, however, we, as humans, can probably gaslight ourselves hard enough into seeing meaning into something that doesn't have itKarmine wrote:
Weeb songs are already indistinguishable from one another, if you trained an AI on those there's enough data to generate a million and no one would notice.Dementedduck wrote:
Man stop cyberbullying the ai wtf ;-;Winnyace wrote:
Cool. You made a song. Did you write it yourself? No. Did you put any effort into it? Also no. Should I care then, if it isn't even your creation? Fuck no.
Imma report you to robo-gestapo when we get robo-leaders
Edit: on a side note these songs will be indistinguishable in a few years lul
Maybe they already are o-o
I think the easiest genre would actually be classical
No vocals generally, lots of info, easy to compose at a base level, etc
generative ai is based on the use of samples and generative audio is based on finding patterns within noise, this is why generative ai tools are really good at spitting out melodic/harmonic phrases but really bad at spitting out sound with high fidelity/low granularity.
it is "easy" to compose tho and ai has been capable of classical composition for decades
you don't produce art, you create art, ergo ai art is not art
The more common something is, the more data there is to train an AI on that thing.z0z wrote:
ai just isn't good with uncommon subjects and topicsxch00F wrote:
extratone is all about timbre and kinda fractalized repetition, ai is not good at fringe genres of music yet and it'll be a while until it gets thereKarmine wrote:
Bullshit genres like extratone would probably work.Dementedduck wrote:
They can produce art without being creativePatatitta wrote:
honestly I wonder what is the easiest genre to create a song that could easily pass as an actual song from that genre, maybe noise? of course an AI can't be creative or produce art, however, we, as humans, can probably gaslight ourselves hard enough into seeing meaning into something that doesn't have itKarmine wrote:
Weeb songs are already indistinguishable from one another, if you trained an AI on those there's enough data to generate a million and no one would notice.Dementedduck wrote:
Man stop cyberbullying the ai wtf ;-;Winnyace wrote:
Cool. You made a song. Did you write it yourself? No. Did you put any effort into it? Also no. Should I care then, if it isn't even your creation? Fuck no.
Imma report you to robo-gestapo when we get robo-leaders
Edit: on a side note these songs will be indistinguishable in a few years lul
Maybe they already are o-o
I think the easiest genre would actually be classical
No vocals generally, lots of info, easy to compose at a base level, etc
generative ai is based on the use of samples and generative audio is based on finding patterns within noise, this is why generative ai tools are really good at spitting out melodic/harmonic phrases but really bad at spitting out sound with high fidelity/low granularity.
it is "easy" to compose tho and ai has been capable of classical composition for decades
you don't produce art, you create art, ergo ai art is not art
example: when abarker used ai to "rtx" my pfp, the ai just made a regular bull instead (and also ai shenanigans)Behrauder wrote:
The more common something is, the more data there is to train an AI on that thing.z0z wrote:
ai just isn't good with uncommon subjects and topicsxch00F wrote:
extratone is all about timbre and kinda fractalized repetition, ai is not good at fringe genres of music yet and it'll be a while until it gets thereKarmine wrote:
Bullshit genres like extratone would probably work.Dementedduck wrote:
They can produce art without being creativePatatitta wrote:
honestly I wonder what is the easiest genre to create a song that could easily pass as an actual song from that genre, maybe noise? of course an AI can't be creative or produce art, however, we, as humans, can probably gaslight ourselves hard enough into seeing meaning into something that doesn't have itKarmine wrote:
Weeb songs are already indistinguishable from one another, if you trained an AI on those there's enough data to generate a million and no one would notice.Dementedduck wrote:
Man stop cyberbullying the ai wtf ;-;Winnyace wrote:
Cool. You made a song. Did you write it yourself? No. Did you put any effort into it? Also no. Should I care then, if it isn't even your creation? Fuck no.
Imma report you to robo-gestapo when we get robo-leaders
Edit: on a side note these songs will be indistinguishable in a few years lul
Maybe they already are o-o
I think the easiest genre would actually be classical
No vocals generally, lots of info, easy to compose at a base level, etc
generative ai is based on the use of samples and generative audio is based on finding patterns within noise, this is why generative ai tools are really good at spitting out melodic/harmonic phrases but really bad at spitting out sound with high fidelity/low granularity.
it is "easy" to compose tho and ai has been capable of classical composition for decades
you don't produce art, you create art, ergo ai art is not art
That's why I'm looking forward to it: https://www.maginative.com/article/elevenlabs-unveils-impressive-ai-music-generator-with-realistic-vocals/Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:
The songs made by suno sound so generic in melody. Like way too formulaic.
I did generate a song about drinking shampoo and while the lyric was good as a meme the music itself was incredibly meh.
4/10.
Ah the lyrics on this song were incredibly generic, like the most generic thing I ever saw.Behrauder wrote:
That's why I'm looking forward to it: https://www.maginative.com/article/elevenlabs-unveils-impressive-ai-music-generator-with-realistic-vocals/Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:
The songs made by suno sound so generic in melody. Like way too formulaic.
I did generate a song about drinking shampoo and while the lyric was good as a meme the music itself was incredibly meh.
4/10.
I heard several people say it's better than suno, so I think it's at least an improvement...Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:
Ah the lyrics on this song were incredibly generic, like the most generic thing I ever saw.Behrauder wrote:
That's why I'm looking forward to it: https://www.maginative.com/article/elevenlabs-unveils-impressive-ai-music-generator-with-realistic-vocals/Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:
The songs made by suno sound so generic in melody. Like way too formulaic.
I did generate a song about drinking shampoo and while the lyric was good as a meme the music itself was incredibly meh.
4/10.
couldn't tellNuuskamuikkunen wrote:
Ah the lyrics on this song were incredibly generic, like the most generic thing I ever saw.Behrauder wrote:
That's why I'm looking forward to it: https://www.maginative.com/article/elevenlabs-unveils-impressive-ai-music-generator-with-realistic-vocals/Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:
The songs made by suno sound so generic in melody. Like way too formulaic.
I did generate a song about drinking shampoo and while the lyric was good as a meme the music itself was incredibly meh.
4/10.
basedcr0w wrote:
thanks!
I hate it.
pretty sure the audio quality is an AI thingnominomu wrote:
did the ai generate this bad audio quality? or was it an uploading thing
the mixing definitely sounds off, theres like no bass at all and the drums are too quiet
Most AI song generators only let you generate a song of a certain length. For example Suno has a limit of 1 minute.Jonarwhal wrote:
Im sure there’s some version of the AI-generated hands thing that would be recognizable to musicians but I don’t know what to look for
Edit: a lot of people are saying it’s lacking structure and low quality, but i feel like this could just be a snipped of the song, and quality could be due to other factors
... Suno often generates 2 minute songs for me, without having to extend it...Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:
Most AI song generators only let you generate a song of a certain length. For example Suno has a limit of 1 minute.Jonarwhal wrote:
Im sure there’s some version of the AI-generated hands thing that would be recognizable to musicians but I don’t know what to look for
Edit: a lot of people are saying it’s lacking structure and low quality, but i feel like this could just be a snipped of the song, and quality could be due to other factors
for instrumental stuff, especially electronic music, there's a distinct lack of dynamic range and fidelity that makes the music sonically "mushy" in a different way than music made by someone in a daw who doesn't know what they're doing, at least as far as dynamics go. this paired with bad audio compression makes it harder to tell with 100% certainty whether is generative or not, when that happens you can just say "is this bad because ai or bad because newgrounds techno"Jonarwhal wrote:
Im sure there’s some version of the AI-generated hands thing that would be recognizable to musicians but I don’t know what to look for
Edit: a lot of people are saying it’s lacking structure and low quality, but i feel like this could just be a snipped of the song, and quality could be due to other factors
why would it cause talents to be stripped awayMrMcMikey22 wrote:
I pray to god that A.I. will not replace every single job. It would be a shame if all of the talents were stripped away, just because of the A.I., because I have feeling that A.I.'s would most likely be used in order to exploit anything for some quick bucks.
ai will not replace every job but it will replace enough of them to still be a large societal issue. creative jobs in particular are at risk, ppl already dont want to pay artists lol. if you're using adblock on youtube, you should disable it for a bit and see how long it takes for you to see a mobile game ad using blatant ai art.MrMcMikey22 wrote:
I pray to god that A.I. will not replace every single job. It would be a shame if all of the talents were stripped away, just because of the A.I., because I have feeling that A.I.'s would most likely be used in order to exploit anything for some quick bucks.
saying "creative jobs" here is kinda missleading, stuff like stock photos and people making art commissions definitively are at risk, any job that just requires something to be made, regardless of how deep it is, are at risk. But I doubt it will replace people working on cinema or literature, because as I said earlier, AI cant produce art, we can gaslight ourselves into thinking something that an AI makes is art, but there will never be any original intent behind the workxch00F wrote:
ai will not replace every job but it will replace enough of them to still be a large societal issue. creative jobs in particular are at risk, ppl already dont want to pay artists lol. if you're using adblock on youtube, you should disable it for a bit and see how long it takes for you to see a mobile game ad using blatant ai art.MrMcMikey22 wrote:
I pray to god that A.I. will not replace every single job. It would be a shame if all of the talents were stripped away, just because of the A.I., because I have feeling that A.I.'s would most likely be used in order to exploit anything for some quick bucks.
consider this, we just saw drake, one of the biggest musicians on the planet, release a song featuring ai vocals of tupac and snoop dogg and it was only taken off streaming platforms because of tupac's estate. his record label and the executives of said record label could have stopped it from ever being released in the first place, but that didn't happen. quite the opposite, they endorsed it. snoop dee oh double gizzle isnt even fucking dead yet.
it's already replacing people working within film and music lol. and I'm not sure how much "intent" truly matters when comodified art already exists for the sole purpose of profits. is ghoulish corporate hollywood schlock "art" simply because people worked it? even if they go through a checklist of beats to hit and contour their shitty story to that checklist? terms like "oscar-bait" exist for a reason. and the subjectivity of art and its interpretation makes this even more of a sticky issue. there are people walking this planet who think that suicide squad was a great movie, that it was art. technically? sure. philosophically? ehhhhhhh lmao. generative ai as it exists now is only really capable of surface level stuff. it can't shoot a hollyword factory film but it can write a script for one. it can't mix and master a generic pop song but it can give you a rough draft of one. I really fucking hope it stays here.Patatitta wrote:
saying "creative jobs" here is kinda missleading, stuff like stock photos and people making art commissions definitively are at risk, any job that just requires something to be made, regardless of how deep it is, are at risk. But I doubt it will replace people working on cinema or literature, because as I said earlier, AI cant produce art, we can gaslight ourselves into thinking something that an AI makes is art, but there will never be any original intent behind the workxch00F wrote:
ai will not replace every job but it will replace enough of them to still be a large societal issue. creative jobs in particular are at risk, ppl already dont want to pay artists lol. if you're using adblock on youtube, you should disable it for a bit and see how long it takes for you to see a mobile game ad using blatant ai art.MrMcMikey22 wrote:
I pray to god that A.I. will not replace every single job. It would be a shame if all of the talents were stripped away, just because of the A.I., because I have feeling that A.I.'s would most likely be used in order to exploit anything for some quick bucks.
consider this, we just saw drake, one of the biggest musicians on the planet, release a song featuring ai vocals of tupac and snoop dogg and it was only taken off streaming platforms because of tupac's estate. his record label and the executives of said record label could have stopped it from ever being released in the first place, but that didn't happen. quite the opposite, they endorsed it. snoop dee oh double gizzle isnt even fucking dead yet.
