Wimpy Cursed wrote:

wtf

Winnyace wrote:

Cool. You made a song. Did you write it yourself? No. Did you put any effort into it? Also no. Should I care then, if it isn't even your creation? Fuck no.

Dementedduck wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Cool. You made a song. Did you write it yourself? No. Did you put any effort into it? Also no. Should I care then, if it isn't even your creation? Fuck no.

Man stop cyberbullying the ai wtf ;-;
Imma report you to robo-gestapo when we get robo-leaders

Edit: on a side note these songs will be indistinguishable in a few years lul
Maybe they already are o-o

Karmine wrote:

Dementedduck wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Cool. You made a song. Did you write it yourself? No. Did you put any effort into it? Also no. Should I care then, if it isn't even your creation? Fuck no.

Man stop cyberbullying the ai wtf ;-;
Imma report you to robo-gestapo when we get robo-leaders

Edit: on a side note these songs will be indistinguishable in a few years lul
Maybe they already are o-o

Weeb songs are already indistinguishable from one another, if you trained an AI on those there's enough data to generate a million and no one would notice.

Patatitta wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Dementedduck wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Cool. You made a song. Did you write it yourself? No. Did you put any effort into it? Also no. Should I care then, if it isn't even your creation? Fuck no.

Man stop cyberbullying the ai wtf ;-;
Imma report you to robo-gestapo when we get robo-leaders

Edit: on a side note these songs will be indistinguishable in a few years lul
Maybe they already are o-o

Weeb songs are already indistinguishable from one another, if you trained an AI on those there's enough data to generate a million and no one would notice.

honestly I wonder what is the easiest genre to create a song that could easily pass as an actual song from that genre, maybe noise? of course an AI can't be creative or produce art, however, we, as humans, can probably gaslight ourselves hard enough into seeing meaning into something that doesn't have it

Dementedduck wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Dementedduck wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Cool. You made a song. Did you write it yourself? No. Did you put any effort into it? Also no. Should I care then, if it isn't even your creation? Fuck no.

Man stop cyberbullying the ai wtf ;-;
Imma report you to robo-gestapo when we get robo-leaders

Edit: on a side note these songs will be indistinguishable in a few years lul
Maybe they already are o-o

Weeb songs are already indistinguishable from one another, if you trained an AI on those there's enough data to generate a million and no one would notice.

honestly I wonder what is the easiest genre to create a song that could easily pass as an actual song from that genre, maybe noise? of course an AI can't be creative or produce art, however, we, as humans, can probably gaslight ourselves hard enough into seeing meaning into something that doesn't have it

They can produce art without being creative
I think the easiest genre would actually be classical
No vocals generally, lots of info, easy to compose at a base level, etc

Winnyace wrote:

Cool. You made a song. Did you write it yourself? No. Did you put any effort into it? Also no. Should I care then, if it isn't even your creation? Fuck no.

Karmine wrote:

Dementedduck wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Dementedduck wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Cool. You made a song. Did you write it yourself? No. Did you put any effort into it? Also no. Should I care then, if it isn't even your creation? Fuck no.

Man stop cyberbullying the ai wtf ;-;
Imma report you to robo-gestapo when we get robo-leaders

Edit: on a side note these songs will be indistinguishable in a few years lul
Maybe they already are o-o

Weeb songs are already indistinguishable from one another, if you trained an AI on those there's enough data to generate a million and no one would notice.

honestly I wonder what is the easiest genre to create a song that could easily pass as an actual song from that genre, maybe noise? of course an AI can't be creative or produce art, however, we, as humans, can probably gaslight ourselves hard enough into seeing meaning into something that doesn't have it

They can produce art without being creative
I think the easiest genre would actually be classical
No vocals generally, lots of info, easy to compose at a base level, etc

Bullshit genres like extratone would probably work.

Karmine wrote:

Dementedduck wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Dementedduck wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Cool. You made a song. Did you write it yourself? No. Did you put any effort into it? Also no. Should I care then, if it isn't even your creation? Fuck no.

Man stop cyberbullying the ai wtf ;-;
Imma report you to robo-gestapo when we get robo-leaders

Edit: on a side note these songs will be indistinguishable in a few years lul
Maybe they already are o-o

Weeb songs are already indistinguishable from one another, if you trained an AI on those there's enough data to generate a million and no one would notice.

honestly I wonder what is the easiest genre to create a song that could easily pass as an actual song from that genre, maybe noise? of course an AI can't be creative or produce art, however, we, as humans, can probably gaslight ourselves hard enough into seeing meaning into something that doesn't have it

They can produce art without being creative
I think the easiest genre would actually be classical
No vocals generally, lots of info, easy to compose at a base level, etc

Bullshit genres like extratone would probably work.

Patatitta wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Dementedduck wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Dementedduck wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Cool. You made a song. Did you write it yourself? No. Did you put any effort into it? Also no. Should I care then, if it isn't even your creation? Fuck no.

Man stop cyberbullying the ai wtf ;-;
Imma report you to robo-gestapo when we get robo-leaders

Edit: on a side note these songs will be indistinguishable in a few years lul
Maybe they already are o-o

Weeb songs are already indistinguishable from one another, if you trained an AI on those there's enough data to generate a million and no one would notice.

honestly I wonder what is the easiest genre to create a song that could easily pass as an actual song from that genre, maybe noise? of course an AI can't be creative or produce art, however, we, as humans, can probably gaslight ourselves hard enough into seeing meaning into something that doesn't have it

They can produce art without being creative
I think the easiest genre would actually be classical
No vocals generally, lots of info, easy to compose at a base level, etc

Bullshit genres like extratone would probably work.

my headcanon is that extratone is a genre invented by beat saber mappers to create really dumb maps

xch00F wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Dementedduck wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Dementedduck wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Cool. You made a song. Did you write it yourself? No. Did you put any effort into it? Also no. Should I care then, if it isn't even your creation? Fuck no.

Man stop cyberbullying the ai wtf ;-;
Imma report you to robo-gestapo when we get robo-leaders

Edit: on a side note these songs will be indistinguishable in a few years lul
Maybe they already are o-o

Weeb songs are already indistinguishable from one another, if you trained an AI on those there's enough data to generate a million and no one would notice.

honestly I wonder what is the easiest genre to create a song that could easily pass as an actual song from that genre, maybe noise? of course an AI can't be creative or produce art, however, we, as humans, can probably gaslight ourselves hard enough into seeing meaning into something that doesn't have it

They can produce art without being creative
I think the easiest genre would actually be classical
No vocals generally, lots of info, easy to compose at a base level, etc

Bullshit genres like extratone would probably work.

extratone is all about timbre and kinda fractalized repetition, ai is not good at fringe genres of music yet and it'll be a while until it gets there
generative ai is based on the use of samples and generative audio is based on finding patterns within noise, this is why generative ai tools are really good at spitting out melodic/harmonic phrases but really bad at spitting out sound with high fidelity/low granularity.
it is "easy" to compose tho and ai has been capable of classical composition for decades
you don't produce art, you create art, ergo ai art is not art

z0z wrote:

xch00F wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Dementedduck wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Dementedduck wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Cool. You made a song. Did you write it yourself? No. Did you put any effort into it? Also no. Should I care then, if it isn't even your creation? Fuck no.

Man stop cyberbullying the ai wtf ;-;
Imma report you to robo-gestapo when we get robo-leaders

Edit: on a side note these songs will be indistinguishable in a few years lul
Maybe they already are o-o

Weeb songs are already indistinguishable from one another, if you trained an AI on those there's enough data to generate a million and no one would notice.

honestly I wonder what is the easiest genre to create a song that could easily pass as an actual song from that genre, maybe noise? of course an AI can't be creative or produce art, however, we, as humans, can probably gaslight ourselves hard enough into seeing meaning into something that doesn't have it

They can produce art without being creative
I think the easiest genre would actually be classical
No vocals generally, lots of info, easy to compose at a base level, etc

Bullshit genres like extratone would probably work.

extratone is all about timbre and kinda fractalized repetition, ai is not good at fringe genres of music yet and it'll be a while until it gets there
generative ai is based on the use of samples and generative audio is based on finding patterns within noise, this is why generative ai tools are really good at spitting out melodic/harmonic phrases but really bad at spitting out sound with high fidelity/low granularity.
it is "easy" to compose tho and ai has been capable of classical composition for decades
you don't produce art, you create art, ergo ai art is not art

ai just isn't good with uncommon subjects and topics

Behrauder wrote:

z0z wrote:

xch00F wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Dementedduck wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Dementedduck wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Cool. You made a song. Did you write it yourself? No. Did you put any effort into it? Also no. Should I care then, if it isn't even your creation? Fuck no.

Man stop cyberbullying the ai wtf ;-;
Imma report you to robo-gestapo when we get robo-leaders

Edit: on a side note these songs will be indistinguishable in a few years lul
Maybe they already are o-o

Weeb songs are already indistinguishable from one another, if you trained an AI on those there's enough data to generate a million and no one would notice.

honestly I wonder what is the easiest genre to create a song that could easily pass as an actual song from that genre, maybe noise? of course an AI can't be creative or produce art, however, we, as humans, can probably gaslight ourselves hard enough into seeing meaning into something that doesn't have it

They can produce art without being creative
I think the easiest genre would actually be classical
No vocals generally, lots of info, easy to compose at a base level, etc

Bullshit genres like extratone would probably work.

extratone is all about timbre and kinda fractalized repetition, ai is not good at fringe genres of music yet and it'll be a while until it gets there
generative ai is based on the use of samples and generative audio is based on finding patterns within noise, this is why generative ai tools are really good at spitting out melodic/harmonic phrases but really bad at spitting out sound with high fidelity/low granularity.
it is "easy" to compose tho and ai has been capable of classical composition for decades
you don't produce art, you create art, ergo ai art is not art

ai just isn't good with uncommon subjects and topics

The more common something is, the more data there is to train an AI on that thing.

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

The songs made by suno sound so generic in melody. Like way too formulaic.

I did generate a song about drinking shampoo and while the lyric was good as a meme the music itself was incredibly meh.

4/10.

Behrauder wrote:

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

The songs made by suno sound so generic in melody. Like way too formulaic.

I did generate a song about drinking shampoo and while the lyric was good as a meme the music itself was incredibly meh.

4/10.

That's why I'm looking forward to it: https://www.maginative.com/article/elevenlabs-unveils-impressive-ai-music-generator-with-realistic-vocals/

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

Behrauder wrote:

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

The songs made by suno sound so generic in melody. Like way too formulaic.

I did generate a song about drinking shampoo and while the lyric was good as a meme the music itself was incredibly meh.

4/10.

That's why I'm looking forward to it: https://www.maginative.com/article/elevenlabs-unveils-impressive-ai-music-generator-with-realistic-vocals/

Ah the lyrics on this song were incredibly generic, like the most generic thing I ever saw.

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

Behrauder wrote:

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

The songs made by suno sound so generic in melody. Like way too formulaic.

I did generate a song about drinking shampoo and while the lyric was good as a meme the music itself was incredibly meh.

4/10.

That's why I'm looking forward to it: https://www.maginative.com/article/elevenlabs-unveils-impressive-ai-music-generator-with-realistic-vocals/

Ah the lyrics on this song were incredibly generic, like the most generic thing I ever saw.

cr0w wrote:

thanks!

I hate it.

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

cr0w wrote:

thanks!

I hate it.

based

nominomu wrote:

did the ai generate this bad audio quality? or was it an uploading thing

the mixing definitely sounds off, theres like no bass at all and the drums are too quiet

Jonarwhal wrote:

Im sure there’s some version of the AI-generated hands thing that would be recognizable to musicians but I don’t know what to look for

Edit: a lot of people are saying it’s lacking structure and low quality, but i feel like this could just be a snipped of the song, and quality could be due to other factors

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

Jonarwhal wrote:

Im sure there’s some version of the AI-generated hands thing that would be recognizable to musicians but I don’t know what to look for

Edit: a lot of people are saying it’s lacking structure and low quality, but i feel like this could just be a snipped of the song, and quality could be due to other factors

Most AI song generators only let you generate a song of a certain length. For example Suno has a limit of 1 minute.

Jonarwhal wrote:

Im sure there’s some version of the AI-generated hands thing that would be recognizable to musicians but I don’t know what to look for

Edit: a lot of people are saying it’s lacking structure and low quality, but i feel like this could just be a snipped of the song, and quality could be due to other factors

MrMcMikey22 wrote:

I pray to god that A.I. will not replace every single job. It would be a shame if all of the talents were stripped away, just because of the A.I., because I have feeling that A.I.'s would most likely be used in order to exploit anything for some quick bucks.

MrMcMikey22 wrote:

I pray to god that A.I. will not replace every single job. It would be a shame if all of the talents were stripped away, just because of the A.I., because I have feeling that A.I.'s would most likely be used in order to exploit anything for some quick bucks.

xch00F wrote:

MrMcMikey22 wrote:

I pray to god that A.I. will not replace every single job. It would be a shame if all of the talents were stripped away, just because of the A.I., because I have feeling that A.I.'s would most likely be used in order to exploit anything for some quick bucks.

ai will not replace every job but it will replace enough of them to still be a large societal issue. creative jobs in particular are at risk, ppl already dont want to pay artists lol. if you're using adblock on youtube, you should disable it for a bit and see how long it takes for you to see a mobile game ad using blatant ai art.
consider this, we just saw drake, one of the biggest musicians on the planet, release a song featuring ai vocals of tupac and snoop dogg and it was only taken off streaming platforms because of tupac's estate. his record label and the executives of said record label could have stopped it from ever being released in the first place, but that didn't happen. quite the opposite, they endorsed it. snoop dee oh double gizzle isnt even fucking dead yet.

Patatitta wrote:

xch00F wrote:

MrMcMikey22 wrote:

I pray to god that A.I. will not replace every single job. It would be a shame if all of the talents were stripped away, just because of the A.I., because I have feeling that A.I.'s would most likely be used in order to exploit anything for some quick bucks.

ai will not replace every job but it will replace enough of them to still be a large societal issue. creative jobs in particular are at risk, ppl already dont want to pay artists lol. if you're using adblock on youtube, you should disable it for a bit and see how long it takes for you to see a mobile game ad using blatant ai art.
consider this, we just saw drake, one of the biggest musicians on the planet, release a song featuring ai vocals of tupac and snoop dogg and it was only taken off streaming platforms because of tupac's estate. his record label and the executives of said record label could have stopped it from ever being released in the first place, but that didn't happen. quite the opposite, they endorsed it. snoop dee oh double gizzle isnt even fucking dead yet.

saying "creative jobs" here is kinda missleading, stuff like stock photos and people making art commissions definitively are at risk, any job that just requires something to be made, regardless of how deep it is, are at risk. But I doubt it will replace people working on cinema or literature, because as I said earlier, AI cant produce art, we can gaslight ourselves into thinking something that an AI makes is art, but there will never be any original intent behind the work

Winnyace wrote:

I don't know about this AI stuff. Some people sell it like it's the next big thing, some sell more as a hype thing with real potential too. It seems that while things are rapidly progressing, it doesn't seem ready to replace someone in their job yet, at least jobs that don't require you to have ideas on a conveyor belt and the ability to execute them at a decent enough level to work out, but I don't know. It seems no one truly knows exactly at the moment.

xch00F wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

I don't know about this AI stuff. Some people sell it like it's the next big thing, some sell more as a hype thing with real potential too. It seems that while things are rapidly progressing, it doesn't seem ready to replace someone in their job yet, at least jobs that don't require you to have ideas on a conveyor belt and the ability to execute them at a decent enough level to work out, but I don't know. It seems no one truly knows exactly at the moment.

one thing I will say as someone who has worked in corporate service industry IT is that ai replacing programming jobs might not be as big of a deal as other uses. imagine you're a project manager. if you use ai to generate code for a customer, then the customer comes back to you because the code doesn't work as intended (or at all) and you blame the ai for the bad code, you lose that deal every single time. and when was the last time you had to debug code that you didn't write lol

xch00F wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

xch00F wrote:

MrMcMikey22 wrote:

I pray to god that A.I. will not replace every single job. It would be a shame if all of the talents were stripped away, just because of the A.I., because I have feeling that A.I.'s would most likely be used in order to exploit anything for some quick bucks.

ai will not replace every job but it will replace enough of them to still be a large societal issue. creative jobs in particular are at risk, ppl already dont want to pay artists lol. if you're using adblock on youtube, you should disable it for a bit and see how long it takes for you to see a mobile game ad using blatant ai art.
consider this, we just saw drake, one of the biggest musicians on the planet, release a song featuring ai vocals of tupac and snoop dogg and it was only taken off streaming platforms because of tupac's estate. his record label and the executives of said record label could have stopped it from ever being released in the first place, but that didn't happen. quite the opposite, they endorsed it. snoop dee oh double gizzle isnt even fucking dead yet.

saying "creative jobs" here is kinda missleading, stuff like stock photos and people making art commissions definitively are at risk, any job that just requires something to be made, regardless of how deep it is, are at risk. But I doubt it will replace people working on cinema or literature, because as I said earlier, AI cant produce art, we can gaslight ourselves into thinking something that an AI makes is art, but there will never be any original intent behind the work

it's already replacing people working within film and music lol. and I'm not sure how much "intent" truly matters when comodified art already exists for the sole purpose of profits. is ghoulish corporate hollywood schlock "art" simply because people worked it? even if they go through a checklist of beats to hit and contour their shitty story to that checklist? terms like "oscar-bait" exist for a reason. and the subjectivity of art and its interpretation makes this even more of a sticky issue. there are people walking this planet who think that suicide squad was a great movie, that it was art. technically? sure. philosophically? ehhhhhhh lmao. generative ai as it exists now is only really capable of surface level stuff. it can't shoot a hollyword factory film but it can write a script for one. it can't mix and master a generic pop song but it can give you a rough draft of one. I really fucking hope it stays here.

I don't consider generative ai output to be art because imo art requires humanity. but then you look at how quickly ai is being developed without regulation, see that it seems to be capable of emulating some elements of humanity, and I gotta wonder if it'll ever emulate it well enough to be real to most people. this idea that our beings might actually be able to be distilled down into code and algorithms is what truly terrifies me.

z0z wrote:

abraker wrote:

me waiting till copyright issues in training data catches up all the AI companies to bite them in the ass

well it's already established that ai content isn't copyrightable

Behrauder wrote:

xch00F wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

I don't know about this AI stuff. Some people sell it like it's the next big thing, some sell more as a hype thing with real potential too. It seems that while things are rapidly progressing, it doesn't seem ready to replace someone in their job yet, at least jobs that don't require you to have ideas on a conveyor belt and the ability to execute them at a decent enough level to work out, but I don't know. It seems no one truly knows exactly at the moment.

one thing I will say as someone who has worked in corporate service industry IT is that ai replacing programming jobs might not be as big of a deal as other uses. imagine you're a project manager. if you use ai to generate code for a customer, then the customer comes back to you because the code doesn't work as intended (or at all) and you blame the ai for the bad code, you lose that deal every single time. and when was the last time you had to debug code that you didn't write lol

I think that as things evolve, there will be no need for any human being to work, more specifically when AGIs are invented, since they will do everything that human beings do more efficiently, and then the capitalist system will have to be replaced by something never seen before. Maybe this will happen little by little and this will only be consolidated in 100 years or something like that... I don't know, there will always be some jobs that will need to be done by human beings.

Winnyace wrote:

Behrauder wrote:

xch00F wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

I don't know about this AI stuff. Some people sell it like it's the next big thing, some sell more as a hype thing with real potential too. It seems that while things are rapidly progressing, it doesn't seem ready to replace someone in their job yet, at least jobs that don't require you to have ideas on a conveyor belt and the ability to execute them at a decent enough level to work out, but I don't know. It seems no one truly knows exactly at the moment.

one thing I will say as someone who has worked in corporate service industry IT is that ai replacing programming jobs might not be as big of a deal as other uses. imagine you're a project manager. if you use ai to generate code for a customer, then the customer comes back to you because the code doesn't work as intended (or at all) and you blame the ai for the bad code, you lose that deal every single time. and when was the last time you had to debug code that you didn't write lol

I think that as things evolve, there will be no need for any human being to work, more specifically when AGIs are invented, since they will do everything that human beings do more efficiently, and then the capitalist system will have to be replaced by something never seen before. Maybe this will happen little by little and this will only be consolidated in 100 years or something like that... I don't know, there will always be some jobs that will need to be done by human beings.

Or hopefully governments around the world restrict companies to have human labor or implement ways for everybody to live decently without a job, or perhaps both.