Have you studied japanese before? Or currently studying it. I am curious about it. I have studied it before but haven't had much time back then in college, but, now i am retaking the habit were i left it. So maybe you can share your study method with me.
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my friend had studied it for a while, i myself haven't
it seems too difficult... i do wanna learn spanish though
it seems too difficult... i do wanna learn spanish though
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Ooh Spanish is good, well is my native language after all. You can ask me about Spanish, if you don't understand something, I'll give you feedback.lostsilver wrote:
my friend had studied it for a while, i myself haven't
it seems too difficult... i do wanna learn spanish though
I don't really study it because I don't want to learn Kanji, but I do speak it from time to time in VC with friends. I do hope I get the motivation to study it one day so I can have more suitable vocabulary, but I don't plan on being fluent.
I am leaving bed and starting my computer, wait for the wall of text I am about to throw at it
one of the hardest to learn, if i had the skill i would rather learn mandarin
I grab it and drop it. Focusing more on listening comprehension.
多過な田中泣かなかったかな
I had intended on creating the exact thread about a week ago but during my search in finding OT! individual who are already studying Japanese. I stumbled upon kobold and found out he studies japanese, so I struck a conversation and it lasted for an hour and half, causing me to forget about the thread.
I'm probably one of the newest learners in Japanese, having started just three months ago—or at least I thought I was until I discovered you're also diving into it now. Initially, I took the approach of learning 15-20 hiragana characters per day, which, admittedly, isn't the speediest method out there. In hindsight, I believe it's more effective to memorize all hiragana in a single day, and master it while learning vocab. There's a video that articulates this strategy excellently: .
For grammar, I relied on the Tokini Andy Genki series , which proved to be quite helpful. However, I've scaled back my grammar studies for now due to an upcoming exam. Once that's out of the way, I plan to switch to Tae Kim's Guide to Learning Japanese. It's less tied to the Genki book and offers more direct explanations with better examples.
For Kanji, once again, the [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKWrWRFyfYo&list=PLA_RcUI8km1ME3ewzc4pcJ-cA-cw0-nKa&index=1]Tokini Andy kanji series[/url really helped me with making Kanji look less scary, and I did learn my first 80 kanji from his video, which I still remember even though I haven't reviewed them for over a month. He makes them so easy to remember.
I am planning on learning at least 200-300 kanji from RTK-1 (Remembering the Kanji-1), which has over 2000 kanji in it. Each kanji has its own story to make it easier to recall. I know it has mixed reviews; some say it's a waste of time, some say it can be useful. All I want to do is get used to remembering them.
For vocabulary, like everyone else, I use Anki. I've switched between three decks, which I probably shouldn't have, but I guess I made some poor choices. The first deck I used was the JLPT N5 vocabulary deck, which had a total of 800 cards. I think I only completed about 150 cards from it. Then I moved on to the Core 2k deck, which had more meaningful cards, but I switched again when someone suggested a different deck, which I'm currently using. This deck is called Refold JP1k v3 and it focuses more on the 1k most common words, which I find really helpful. Every card seems meaningful, unlike some from my last two decks. It also has a feature where you first try to recall the reading, and then you can check if it's correct by clicking on the eye icon before flipping the card to see the meaning. I love it.
Japanese is definitely a long term commitment. I doubt I will reach a point in 3-4years where I can speak Japanese decently and understand youtube videos. Though If I did, it will be the best achievement of my life.
I'm probably one of the newest learners in Japanese, having started just three months ago—or at least I thought I was until I discovered you're also diving into it now. Initially, I took the approach of learning 15-20 hiragana characters per day, which, admittedly, isn't the speediest method out there. In hindsight, I believe it's more effective to memorize all hiragana in a single day, and master it while learning vocab. There's a video that articulates this strategy excellently: .
For grammar, I relied on the Tokini Andy Genki series , which proved to be quite helpful. However, I've scaled back my grammar studies for now due to an upcoming exam. Once that's out of the way, I plan to switch to Tae Kim's Guide to Learning Japanese. It's less tied to the Genki book and offers more direct explanations with better examples.
For Kanji, once again, the [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKWrWRFyfYo&list=PLA_RcUI8km1ME3ewzc4pcJ-cA-cw0-nKa&index=1]Tokini Andy kanji series[/url really helped me with making Kanji look less scary, and I did learn my first 80 kanji from his video, which I still remember even though I haven't reviewed them for over a month. He makes them so easy to remember.
I am planning on learning at least 200-300 kanji from RTK-1 (Remembering the Kanji-1), which has over 2000 kanji in it. Each kanji has its own story to make it easier to recall. I know it has mixed reviews; some say it's a waste of time, some say it can be useful. All I want to do is get used to remembering them.
For vocabulary, like everyone else, I use Anki. I've switched between three decks, which I probably shouldn't have, but I guess I made some poor choices. The first deck I used was the JLPT N5 vocabulary deck, which had a total of 800 cards. I think I only completed about 150 cards from it. Then I moved on to the Core 2k deck, which had more meaningful cards, but I switched again when someone suggested a different deck, which I'm currently using. This deck is called Refold JP1k v3 and it focuses more on the 1k most common words, which I find really helpful. Every card seems meaningful, unlike some from my last two decks. It also has a feature where you first try to recall the reading, and then you can check if it's correct by clicking on the eye icon before flipping the card to see the meaning. I love it.
Japanese is definitely a long term commitment. I doubt I will reach a point in 3-4years where I can speak Japanese decently and understand youtube videos. Though If I did, it will be the best achievement of my life.
I already explained why I don't want to learn Japanese in a random post, and I would quote it, but I'm too lazy to look for the post...
I tried at some point but quickly gave up, couldn't even memorise hiraganas.
SameKarmine wrote:
I tried at some point but quickly gave up, couldn't even memorise hiraganas.
didnt japanese have more than 1 alphabet
the only reason i would try to learn japanese would be to queue into respective cs servers and start annoying the hell out of them until the game ends (this was legitimately my motivation to start learning russian)
the only reason i would try to learn japanese would be to queue into respective cs servers and start annoying the hell out of them until the game ends (this was legitimately my motivation to start learning russian)
I'm already having some struggles with English, so with japanese I don't think I'm even able to do that. And also, why I would learn this language in particular?
You'll get used to them.Karmine wrote:
I tried at some point but quickly gave up, couldn't even memorise hiraganas.
よくひらがなを読めばいいです。
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As usual I do appreciate you take your time to reply to my post. I am going to enter my night shift, I can not read everything now, so, maybe I'll reply you all tomorrow.
look I like anime but i'm not a masochist
i wish so i can marry her in Japan
I had tried learning japanese myself in the past, but once I learned about how friggin difficult it is I gave up :/
but I do know hiragana and katakana
but I do know hiragana and katakana
I love how I am able to read the hiragana and kanji very well in your sentence but then there is this in katakana "フリガナ". I still have not learned katakana ;-;keremaru wrote:
今までフリガナを勉強していて、書き方まだ上手ではないぜ。
Manishh wrote:
I love how I am able to read the hiragana and kanji very well in your sentence but then there is this in katakana "フリガナ". I still have not learned katakana ;-;keremaru wrote:
今までフリガナを勉強していて、書き方まだ上手ではないぜ。
OLD ass japanese (so old i have to use the new alphabet)
Patatitta wrote:
look I like anime but i'm not a masochist
Why have you learned Kanji but not KatakanaManishh wrote:
I love how I am able to read the hiragana and kanji very well in your sentence but then there is this in katakana "フリガナ". I still have not learned katakana ;-;keremaru wrote:
今までフリガナを勉強していて、書き方まだ上手ではないぜ。
um you know um, you know uh, katakana is annoyingYmir wrote:
Why have you learned Kanji but not KatakanaManishh wrote:
I love how I am able to read the hiragana and kanji very well in your sentence but then there is this in katakana "フリガナ". I still have not learned katakana ;-;keremaru wrote:
今までフリガナを勉強していて、書き方まだ上手ではないぜ。
Jangsoodlor
No,I might be really deep into Japanese culture but I can't see any benefit of studying Japanese for myself. For now I'm just fine with subtitles
I know grass/kusa tho
I know grass/kusa tho
if u know hiragana then katakana is easier than hiragana tbhManishh wrote:
um you know um, you know uh, katakana is annoyingYmir wrote:
Why have you learned Kanji but not KatakanaManishh wrote:
I love how I am able to read the hiragana and kanji very well in your sentence but then there is this in katakana "フリガナ". I still have not learned katakana ;-;keremaru wrote:
今までフリガナを勉強していて、書き方まだ上手ではないぜ。
(pls learn it since many katakana words are loaned from english and can be guessed)
H-HENTAIGANA? >///<keremaru wrote:
今までフリガナを勉強していて、書き方まだ上手ではないぜ。
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Yeah i know, kanji can be difficult to learn, but personally, i have learned a language before, so a third won't hurt, i think. Also i am applying a learning technique i used to not forget things through time, it is called: flashcard method, but maybe you know it already.Ymir wrote:
I don't really study it because I don't want to learn Kanji, but I do speak it from time to time in VC with friends. I do hope I get the motivation to study it one day so I can have more suitable vocabulary, but I don't plan on being fluent.
Maybe it is just your studying method, don't be discouraged by the nowadays immediate culture, yeah, maybe it will take years, but you need to love the process of learning either japanese or chinese.Reyalp51 wrote:
one of the hardest to learn, if i had the skill i would rather learn mandarin
wow, i personally like the hearing part, i almost understand anything while watching anime and listening to music.Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:
I grab it and drop it. Focusing more on listening comprehension.
So cool Kobold, something i would not understand at first sight, but thanks to a friend, i kinda know the true meaning, packed with history and culture about the japanese language. Omigoto-Kobold84 wrote:
多過な田中泣かなかったかな
Manishh wrote:
I had intended on creating the exact thread about a week ago but during my search in finding OT! individual who are already studying Japanese. I stumbled upon kobold and found out he studies japanese, so I struck a conversation and it lasted for an hour and half, causing me to forget about the thread.
I'm probably one of the newest learners in Japanese, having started just three months ago—or at least I thought I was until I discovered you're also diving into it now. Initially, I took the approach of learning 15-20 hiragana characters per day, which, admittedly, isn't the speediest method out there. In hindsight, I believe it's more effective to memorize all hiragana in a single day, and master it while learning vocab. There's a video that articulates this strategy excellently: .For grammar, I relied on the Tokini Andy Genki series , which proved to be quite helpful. However, I've scaled back my grammar studies for now due to an upcoming exam. Once that's out of the way, I plan to switch to Tae Kim's Guide to Learning Japanese. It's less tied to the Genki book and offers more direct explanations with better examples.
For Kanji, once again, the [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKWrWRFyfYo&list=PLA_RcUI8km1ME3ewzc4pcJ-cA-cw0-nKa&index=1]Tokini Andy kanji series[/url really helped me with making Kanji look less scary, and I did learn my first 80 kanji from his video, which I still remember even though I haven't reviewed them for over a month. He makes them so easy to remember.
I am planning on learning at least 200-300 kanji from RTK-1 (Remembering the Kanji-1), which has over 2000 kanji in it. Each kanji has its own story to make it easier to recall. I know it has mixed reviews; some say it's a waste of time, some say it can be useful. All I want to do is get used to remembering them.
For vocabulary, like everyone else, I use Anki. I've switched between three decks, which I probably shouldn't have, but I guess I made some poor choices. The first deck I used was the JLPT N5 vocabulary deck, which had a total of 800 cards. I think I only completed about 150 cards from it. Then I moved on to the Core 2k deck, which had more meaningful cards, but I switched again when someone suggested a different deck, which I'm currently using. This deck is called Refold JP1k v3 and it focuses more on the 1k most common words, which I find really helpful. Every card seems meaningful, unlike some from my last two decks. It also has a feature where you first try to recall the reading, and then you can check if it's correct by clicking on the eye icon before flipping the card to see the meaning. I love it.
Japanese is definitely a long term commitment. I doubt I will reach a point in 3-4years where I can speak Japanese decently and understand youtube videos. Though If I did, it will be the best achievement of my life.
Yeeeah it will take time ,but, if you like it and have started you have the halfway done. I see your study method is so good and it is similar to the one i use tbh. I have studied actively like for a month, and 4 years ago for like 3 months.
i see... (‘◉⌓◉’)Behrauder wrote:
I already explained why I don't want to learn Japanese in a random post, and I would quote it, but I'm too lazy to look for the post...
Maybe you need something to do daily in japanese to remember the hiraganas. But hey, you've tried, and that's hard for most people.Karmine wrote:
I tried at some point but quickly gave up, couldn't even memorise hiraganas.
Yes, they are: pure hiragana, compound hiragana and katakana. With this you can make any word then it is compressed with the help of kanjis. Haha really, to annoy? That is a valid motivation haha, but, what really matters is the knowledge you acquire, i think.burgernfat wrote:
didnt japanese have more than 1 alphabet
the only reason i would try to learn japanese would be to queue into respective cs servers and start annoying the hell out of them until the game ends (this was legitimately my motivation to start learning russian)
Hi, english is taught here from kindertgarden to college (4-21 years old) ,so ,i do not see it that much hard, in fact i see your native language more difficult, and, it is said that our languages are connected somehow, the so called romance languages. Yeah you have a point, why would you learn this language in particular? You really don't have to, it is up to your needs tbh. I do like japanese because i love anime.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
I'm already having some struggles with English, so with japanese I don't think I'm even able to do that. And also, why I would learn this language in particular?
Thats a good point, really, a good one.Patatitta wrote:
look I like anime but i'm not a masochist
I wish you the best of luck.- Marco - wrote:
i wish so i can marry her in Japan
I learned in college to see difficult things as a challenge and to appreciate the process in learning something diffucult. Just don't be discouraged by hard things.Oh hey you have learned the basics of japanese, maybe you are ready to learn kanji. Gambare-B0ii wrote:
I had tried learning japanese myself in the past, but once I learned about how friggin difficult it is I gave up :/
but I do know hiragana and katakana
WOAH! so pink, so stylish, aesthetic if i may say.keremaru wrote:
今までフリガナを勉強していて、書き方まだ上手ではないぜ。
WAOS! chinese! That's cool tho. Somehow they are connected by kanji, as they have the same meaning in japanese and chinese.Jangsoodlor wrote:
I know how to read a fair bit of hiragana, and a few Kanji (as I used to took Chinese back in middle school)
Yes i see your point haha. Subtitles are good for learning to read faster btw.Scyla wrote:
No,I might be really deep into Japanese culture but I can't see any benefit of studying Japanese for myself. For now I'm just fine with subtitles
I know grass/kusa tho
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:
H-HENTAIGANA? >///<keremaru wrote:
今までフリガナを勉強していて、書き方まだ上手ではないぜ。
I minored in it at university (they didn't offer it as a major where I went), and thus studied it for about 3.5 years, but I'm somewhat rusty these days since I don't use it much.
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I see, wow! Almost 4 years. that is so cool! And how was your peak level? Did you watch anime without subtittles at your peak?MistressRemilia wrote:
I minored in it at university (they didn't offer it as a major where I went), and thus studied it for about 3.5 years, but I'm somewhat rusty these days since I don't use it much.
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I am studying rn btw
I never knew what my actual proficiency level was, but I was able to live there for a while without much issue, and I was able to read some manga without consulting a kanji dictionary too often. Anime I can still kinda halfway watch without subtitles, but it heavily depends on the anime and the character. Just don't ask me to read it, my kanji knowledge has gone to shit.Hachiman Ryouta wrote:
I see, wow! Almost 4 years. that is so cool! And how was your peak level? Did you watch anime without subtittles at your peak?MistressRemilia wrote:
I minored in it at university (they didn't offer it as a major where I went), and thus studied it for about 3.5 years, but I'm somewhat rusty these days since I don't use it much.
I can gibberish japanese! .w.
how do you guys learn kanji using anki? kanji like 食べる [Taberu] or 私 [watashi] are easy to remember since they are used frequently. Kanji like 楽しい [tanoshii] are also easier since you can create a story, for example the kanji for '楽'しい looks like a game boss and games are fun so the meaning is enjoyable. But majority of Kanji are not that simple for example 勉強 [benkyou], 確認 [kakunin] etc just have so many strokes, and I dont feel like seeing them or writing them every day is the most efficient way.
That's the fun part. I don't.Manishh wrote:
how do you guys learn kanji using anki? kanji like 食べる [Taberu] or 私 [watashi] are easy to remember since they are used frequently. Kanji like 楽しい [tanoshii] are also easier since you can create a story, for example the kanji for '楽'しい looks like a game boss and games are fun so the meaning is enjoyable. But majority of Kanji are not that simple for example 勉強 [benkyou], 確認 [kakunin] etc just have so many strokes, and I dont feel like seeing them or writing them every day is the most efficient way.
Very helpful thanksNuuskamuikkunen wrote:
That's the fun part. I don't.Manishh wrote:
how do you guys learn kanji using anki? kanji like 食べる [Taberu] or 私 [watashi] are easy to remember since they are used frequently. Kanji like 楽しい [tanoshii] are also easier since you can create a story, for example the kanji for '楽'しい looks like a game boss and games are fun so the meaning is enjoyable. But majority of Kanji are not that simple for example 勉強 [benkyou], 確認 [kakunin] etc just have so many strokes, and I dont feel like seeing them or writing them every day is the most efficient way.
Unironically I find that way of learning Kanji too tedious. Do NOT learn by strokes, learn by radicals.Manishh wrote:
Very helpful thanksNuuskamuikkunen wrote:
That's the fun part. I don't.Manishh wrote:
how do you guys learn kanji using anki? kanji like 食べる [Taberu] or 私 [watashi] are easy to remember since they are used frequently. Kanji like 楽しい [tanoshii] are also easier since you can create a story, for example the kanji for '楽'しい looks like a game boss and games are fun so the meaning is enjoyable. But majority of Kanji are not that simple for example 勉強 [benkyou], 確認 [kakunin] etc just have so many strokes, and I dont feel like seeing them or writing them every day is the most efficient way.
ALL Kanji have common elements that are easy to recognize if you give it enough time and you understand how Kanji work, like:
泳ぐ (Oyogu - Swim) 湯 (Yu - Hot Water) 湖 (Mizuumi - Lake) and 海 (Umi - Lake)
Do you notice something in common?
Yes, they're all words related with water, and all of them have this radical on the left
This radical usually indicates that the Kanji is related to water.
I have an article that expands on how to use radicals. It will save you LOTS of time.
https://www.tofugu.com/japanese/kanji-radicals-mnemonic-method/
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Me too haha.MrMcMikey22 wrote:
I can gibberish japanese! .w.
I am not at this level yet, I am starting to learn katakana at the moment. But yeah I will use Anki to learn kanji.Manishh wrote:
how do you guys learn kanji using anki? kanji like 食べる [Taberu] or 私 [watashi] are easy to remember since they are used frequently. Kanji like 楽しい [tanoshii] are also easier since you can create a story, for example the kanji for '楽'しい looks like a game boss and games are fun so the meaning is enjoyable. But majority of Kanji are not that simple for example 勉強 [benkyou], 確認 [kakunin] etc just have so many strokes, and I dont feel like seeing them or writing them every day is the most efficient way.
I will be learning Kanji using mnemonics and the kanji's will be based on Kanken and Jlpt levels. So, I was wondering, if you guys would be interested in me posting 5-10kanji everyday with their meaning and mnemonics.
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その男は同性愛者です 女性は多いのに、なぜ彼氏がゲイなのでしょうか？ そう、私の夫は同性愛者です、同性愛者ではありません、私の夫、あなたはもうそれを尊重できません。私はバイセクシャルで、彼女はゲイです。私のボーイフレンドがゲイであるというだけではなく、私はそれを本物の女性と同じように考えており、ゲイの男性とデートすることに何の問題もありません。ゲイの友達がいると彼らは「イエス」と言います ただ騙して騙すだけだけど、私は違うよ 私はパートナーを、ありのままで愛している 私は彼女を愛している、なぜなら彼女は私がこの世界で一人ではないと感じてくれている人だから。愛には性別はありません。たとえ彼女が同性愛者であっても、私は私のジョワを愛しています。彼女は単なる同性愛者ではありません。なぜなら、私にとって彼女は私のプリンセスである女性だからです。判断してください、あなたが何と言おうと気にしません♀️♂️ 🌈🌈
Scyla wrote:
その男は同性愛者です 女性は多いのに、なぜ彼氏がゲイなのでしょうか？ そう、私の夫は同性愛者です、同性愛者ではありません、私の夫、あなたはもうそれを尊重できません。私はバイセクシャルで、彼女はゲイです。私のボーイフレンドがゲイであるというだけではなく、私はそれを本物の女性と同じように考えており、ゲイの男性とデートすることに何の問題もありません。ゲイの友達がいると彼らは「イエス」と言います ただ騙して騙すだけだけど、私は違うよ 私はパートナーを、ありのままで愛している 私は彼女を愛している、なぜなら彼女は私がこの世界で一人ではないと感じてくれている人だから。愛には性別はありません。たとえ彼女が同性愛者であっても、私は私のジョワを愛しています。彼女は単なる同性愛者ではありません。なぜなら、私にとって彼女は私のプリンセスである女性だからです。判断してください、あなたが何と言おうと気にしません♀️♂️ 🌈🌈
これからこのスレッドはホモになった。
easy, be a fellow chink. u automatically gain the overpowered perk of easy understanding of KanjiManishh wrote:
how do you guys learn kanji using anki? kanji like 食べる [Taberu] or 私 [watashi] are easy to remember since they are used frequently. Kanji like 楽しい [tanoshii] are also easier since you can create a story, for example the kanji for '楽'しい looks like a game boss and games are fun so the meaning is enjoyable. But majority of Kanji are not that simple for example 勉強 [benkyou], 確認 [kakunin] etc just have so many strokes, and I dont feel like seeing them or writing them every day is the most efficient way.
ええ? でもまだ大きなちんぽを持ちたいのに。Cerno wrote:
easy, be a fellow chink. u automatically gain the overpowered perk of easy understanding of KanjiManishh wrote:
how do you guys learn kanji using anki? kanji like 食べる [Taberu] or 私 [watashi] are easy to remember since they are used frequently. Kanji like 楽しい [tanoshii] are also easier since you can create a story, for example the kanji for '楽'しい looks like a game boss and games are fun so the meaning is enjoyable. But majority of Kanji are not that simple for example 勉強 [benkyou], 確認 [kakunin] etc just have so many strokes, and I dont feel like seeing them or writing them every day is the most efficient way.
なんだお前らは話せてであるか
Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:
これからこのスレッドはホモになった。
えっ？ホモじゃなかったっけ？keremaru wrote:
へ
なんだお前らは話せてであるかNuuskamuikkunen wrote:
これからこのスレッドはホモになった。ではない