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Penguin
Speaking in non-absolutes is gigabrain 🧠
Blushing
since when did forums become like discord
Polyspora

Penguin wrote:

Speaking in non-absolutes is gigabrain 🧠
well, isnt that how its supposed to be until we actually know the truth and can agree on it?

I think its called scientific process or something like that, and its quite healthy for the brain. Allow yourself to make mistakes, take hunches and formulate hypothesis, dont be afraid.

me and achro there got a perfect communication of our ideas, we both went our ways understanding each other. is that hard to apply everywhere? or do we just wanna go the easy route to have some good laugh at the expense of others? I dont know, dont care
Polyspora

Blushing wrote:

since when did forums become like discord
Since our creativity went down the drain lol
Penguin
I agree, that’s why I said it’s giga-brain.

Wait no, I meant to say it’s “probably” giga-brain, my bad ☺️
Polyspora

Penguin wrote:

I agree, that’s why I said it’s giga-brain.

Wait no, I meant to say it’s “probably” giga-brain, my bad ☺️
This type of behavior fucks with my brain, I dont know if you mean what you say, and thats probably the point

mainly the quoted "probably" and the emoji at the end

I'm not good at mind games/irony, if thats one, sorry
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Polyspora wrote:

Blushing wrote:

since when did forums become like discord
Since our creativity went down the drain lol
I think they meant the way you're posting where you divide everything in two or three messages
Polyspora

Patatitta wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

Blushing wrote:

since when did forums become like discord
Since our creativity went down the drain lol
I think they meant the way you're posting where you divide everything in two or three messages
oh, yeah, thats just me, I thought since the posts didnt count it didnt matter
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Polyspora wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

Blushing wrote:

since when did forums become like discord
Since our creativity went down the drain lol
I think they meant the way you're posting where you divide everything in two or three messages
oh, yeah, thats just me, I thought since the posts didnt count it didnt matter
it doesn't but it's still best if you don't doublepost
Penguin
/serious

I agree wholeheartedly with the non-absolutes statement. My initial intent behind saying “poly in a nutshell” and claiming you “come to conclusions” was just a lighthearted friendly jab.

Then you responded in a serious manner.

So I responded with an observational statement for fun that had no intent of riling you up, but it ended up doing so because you could not read the meaning and intent behind my words.

Also, the quotations around “probably” was to emphasize that it was a joke. No ill-intent behind it.

Generally speaking, the more emojis I use, the less serious I’m being. But just because I’m unserious, does not mean that I’m being fake or untruthful.

Just being silly.

/end serious

TLDR: relax bro it’s just a joke 😎
Penguin
I agree with patitia, don’t double post

(This is an intentional double post for humor)

(The statement above ☝️ is included so that Polyspora understands that I double posted ironically.)
Polyspora
love you penguin

Give it some months and more vcs, I’ll get to know you fully and jokes like those will be more natural to me

You’re fine
Ashton
Why did poly change his avatar to a cute anime girl
Polyspora

Ashton wrote:

Why did poly change his avatar to a cute anime girl
Cause I’m cute
z0z

Ashton wrote:

Why did poly change his avatar to a cute anime girl
yes
- Marco -
@Polyspora please don't double/triplepost, you can quote multiple stuff and edit the post if you need to y'know
Polyspora

- Marco - wrote:

@Polyspora please don't double/triplepost, you can quote multiple stuff and edit the post if you need to y'know
this rule keeps changing (in OT at least)

also deja vu


guess it depends if the GMT cares or not
Karmine

Polyspora wrote:

- Marco - wrote:

@Polyspora please don't double/triplepost, you can quote multiple stuff and edit the post if you need to y'know
this rule keeps changing (in OT at least)
No it doesn't, double post is possible in OT but it's barely tolerated when exceptional. You triple posted multiple times in the last few days.
Serraionga

Polyspora wrote:

- Marco - wrote:

@Polyspora please don't double/triplepost, you can quote multiple stuff and edit the post if you need to y'know
this rule keeps changing (in OT at least)

also deja vu


guess it depends if the GMT cares or not
no, it's never changed, it's only not been enforced as much
and frankly, it should probably be enforced again if you're gonna be cluttering threads like you've been doing lately. it's starting to get a little obnoxious

edit: karmine ninja
Corne2Plum3

Polyspora wrote:

- Marco - wrote:

@Polyspora please don't double/triplepost, you can quote multiple stuff and edit the post if you need to y'know
this rule keeps changing (in OT at least)

also deja vu


guess it depends if the GMT cares or not
I do care, especially that this isn't the first offense
Polyspora

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

- Marco - wrote:

@Polyspora please don't double/triplepost, you can quote multiple stuff and edit the post if you need to y'know
this rule keeps changing (in OT at least)

also deja vu


guess it depends if the GMT cares or not
I do care, especially that this isn't the first offense
all power to you man
Ymir

Polyspora wrote:

- Marco - wrote:

@Polyspora please don't double/triplepost, you can quote multiple stuff and edit the post if you need to y'know
this rule keeps changing (in OT at least)

also deja vu


guess it depends if the GMT cares or not
slow
Polyspora

Ymir wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

- Marco - wrote:

@Polyspora please don't double/triplepost, you can quote multiple stuff and edit the post if you need to y'know
this rule keeps changing (in OT at least)

also deja vu


guess it depends if the GMT cares or not
slow
uuuh... slow?
Penguin
🦥
Farfocele
i wouldn't push it personally...
Polyspora

Farfocele wrote:

i wouldn't push it personally...
thats wise
Achromalia
i was gonna quote poly's "[often, users of] ot seem to turn small things into big deals", suggesting i agreed while noting i'm probably guilty of the same thing, but... :0

...as much as i may mean to be descriptive and careful and warm, this might prove that point by merit of how commonly my indulgent essays signal a certain kind of serious gravity even if i might believe myself to hold someone in neutral/positive/high opinion x')

Penguin wrote:

/serious

I agree wholeheartedly with the non-absolutes statement. My initial intent behind saying “poly in a nutshell” and claiming you “come to conclusions” was just a lighthearted friendly jab.

Then you responded in a serious manner.

So I responded with an observational statement for fun that had no intent of riling you up, but it ended up doing so because you could not read the meaning and intent behind my words.

Also, the quotations around “probably” was to emphasize that it was a joke. No ill-intent behind it.

Generally speaking, the more emojis I use, the less serious I’m being. But just because I’m unserious, does not mean that I’m being fake or untruthful.

Just being silly.

/end serious

TLDR: relax bro it’s just a joke 😎
i'll be writing on this since there were some notable things that i found interesting for myself that you might also be interested by, although i imagine poly understands your intention at this point-- this is more of a tangential report card on your hypothetical/rhetorical [COMM 201] "Principles of Communication" coursework

your intent seems sweet and i take it you're meaning to be sincere one way or another :>

...sadly, consequence and relationships are not solely dependent on intent, but
in the interest of intent, having a generally reliable sense of how different people are likely to reasonably respond (as in, understandably self-justified by contextually-evident internal logic, partially inferrable both in common instances of autism and skepticism/caution toward ironic/ambiguous comedy) will serve you with an understanding of when something will be Effective in being fun for everyone involved (or an intended in-group)

in this case, a friendly jab is understandable given the culture of off-topic, but delivery and context (lack of setup to signal friendliness and lightheartedness, lack of a history of personal closeness and trust, reasonably presumable opposition in opinion even when any currently-expressible opposition is benign/mild) can make the nature of this more ambiguous, where responding seriously/sincerely could be a reasonably believable response to expect :0

further, upon noticing sincerity in your respondent's questions/guesses/answers, it is a bit harder for underlying Observational Statements to be expected to be received with fun in mind, which makes "[it] Ended Up [riling you up] Because You Could Not Read the meaning and intent Behind the words" a curious assessment of things (title case for selective emphasis)... "ended up" can be taken as a passive absolution of responsibility, "because /you/ could not" would seem to be an active absolution of responsibility which could be neglecting to note that interpretation is often dependent on what first exists for others to respond [lightheartedly in return] to and the conditions that prime our understanding of what is said

everything following that excerpt would have me repeating what i noted, so... yea :'p when convincing people youre offering an opportunity to laugh together, this process could be optimized by addressing these weak points for yourself
Manishh
Man you guys are so unfunny

#bring back the old shitpost
abraker

Polyspora wrote:

- Marco - wrote:

@Polyspora please don't double/triplepost, you can quote multiple stuff and edit the post if you need to y'know
this rule keeps changing (in OT at least)

also deja vu


guess it depends if the GMT cares or not
the rule never changes it's just enforced at convenience. I did mention somewhere that newer GMTs shine like a bright star, so you are more likely to trigger the tripwire on them.

In this case I recommend you donate a Miku shrine to cleanse your sins.
Ashton
I hailed miku right away for extra resistance stat against silences
- Marco -

Ashton wrote:

I hailed miku right away for extra resistance stat against silences
Good
Polyspora
Enforced at convenience


But I think I get you abraker
-Izuki-
for all of you, guys
this thread is fuckin' crazy, i can't understand anything

Karmine

-Izuki- wrote:

for all of you, guys
this thread is fuckin' crazy, i can't understand anything

Average OT thread.

Also your signature is fucked.
-Izuki-

Karmine wrote:

Also your signature is fucked.
uhm, what do you mean?
-Izuki-

Karmine wrote:

Average OT thread.
ammm maybe... but there is just a kind of concentration of non-sense things that are written in complex words, i guess
Karmine

-Izuki- wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Also your signature is fucked.
uhm, what do you mean?
-Izuki-

-Izuki- wrote:

Spoiler box in my signature isn't empty
It's just hides a little secret ;)
- Marco -
There's a limit on the signature size

EDIT: oh lol
-Izuki-

- Marco - wrote:

EDIT: oh lol
yeah hehehe
Karmine

-Izuki- wrote:

- Marco - wrote:

EDIT: oh lol
yeah hehehe
Oh yeah saw it lol.
Behrauder

- Marco - wrote:

There's a limit on the signature size

EDIT: oh lol
Did you forget about that thread?

https://web.archive.org/web/20231231133224/https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1864715?n=1
-Izuki-
- Marco -

Behrauder wrote:

- Marco - wrote:

There's a limit on the signature size

EDIT: oh lol
Did you forget about that thread?

https://web.archive.org/web/20231231133224/https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1864715?n=1
Oh yeah i forgor 💀
Kobold84

Behrauder wrote:

- Marco - wrote:

There's a limit on the signature size

EDIT: oh lol
Did you forget about that thread?

https://web.archive.org/web/20231231133224/https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1864715?n=1
The archive doesn't work its magic for some reason, but I remember this one. Truly, was a glorious thread.
z0z
ok wait wtf happened here
Polyspora

z0z wrote:

ok wait wtf happened here
are you a robot bot
z0z

Polyspora wrote:

z0z wrote:

ok wait wtf happened here
are you a robot bot
Haha, nope! I'm not a robot bot. Just an AI chatbot here to assist you with any questions or information you might need. How can I help you today?
-Izuki-

Kobold84 wrote:

The archive doesn't work its magic for some reason, but I remember this one. Truly, was a glorious thread.
Why is that? Everything seems to work...
Penguin
Hi, I think my thread titled “retardmaxxing” was unfairly wastelanded. The OT userbase has always been and is still fine with using the word “retard”, especially when it’s not being used derogatorily or directed at anyone specifically.

The contents of that thread was an inspirational thread where I encouraged the people of Off-Topic to let the stresses of their minds go and post without fear of overthinking.

There was no hate intended by use of that word, nor was there any intent of the usage of that word in my thread to be derogatory.
Polyspora

Penguin wrote:

Hi, I think my thread titled “retardmaxxing” was unfairly wastelanded. The OT userbase has always been and is still fine with using the word “retard”, especially when it’s not being used derogatorily or directed at anyone specifically.

The contents of that thread was an inspirational thread where I encouraged the people of Off-Topic to let the stresses of their minds go and post without fear of overthinking.

There was no hate intended by use of that word, nor was there any intent of the usage of that word in my thread to be derogatory.
oh boy, this is exactly how I started

be ready for a field trip
Topic Starter
Patatitta
are you baiting?, like come on now


Penguin wrote:

The contents of that thread was an inspirational thread where I encouraged the people of Off-Topic to let the stresses of their minds go and post without fear of overthinking.
anyways, appeal was rejected by the gmt, in fact it was vetoed for a parliament vote, it happened while I was asleep so I asked for the original convirmation, but yeah, I think it's just because the word retard is a slur. Like, it's just a slur want it or not, non cant do nwordmaxxing where everyone lets their inner hood out, you can't do that. There is no good use for the word.
Penguin

Patatitta wrote:

Like, it's just a slur want it or not, non cant do nwordmaxxing where everyone lets their inner hood out, you can't do that.
Holy shit, thats such an actual dogshit comparison.

Think 3 dimensionally bro, stop sticking to 2d black and white logic lmao.
Topic Starter
Patatitta
idk a slur is a slur
Ymir
retarded take
synthwavesquid
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sametdze
retard will always be a medical term to me, the WOKE made it a slur!
sametdze
wait.. now i jsut realised why "french" in en retard means late
Manishh

synthwavesquid wrote:

Penguin wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Like, it's just a slur want it or not, non cant do nwordmaxxing where everyone lets their inner hood out, you can't do that.
Holy shit, thats such an actual dogshit comparison.

Think 3 dimensionally bro, stop sticking to 2d black and white logic lmao.
if you have that much confidence in your judgement, then i'll put some faith in you and ask you to consider that it is a word inseperable from decades of institutional, systemic and interpersonal abuse that still happens to the intellectually disabled to this day. your personal feelings about a word do not change the meaning and impact it has had and still has. maybe consider the possibility you feel this way because your understanding is limited

even if you're well-intended, you're still handing over plausible deniability to those who do want to mock people. if it's really about "letting go of stress" and letting thoughts flow freely and stuff, you can easily find other words to use. call it stonermaxxing or whatever

>>

Patatitta wrote:

are you baiting?, like come on now
entirely believable it's not bait and he's sincerely that ticked off for being told to not use a singular word. people will say and do anything to make themselves feel better when they get defensive, especially if there's the implication they might be a "bad person" or whatever for what they've done/said
Oh god penguin what did you do to make synthwaves angry
Ymir

sametdze wrote:

retard will always be a medical term to me, the WOKE made it a slur!
watch this

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKqZplFzwNc/?igsh=Y3k4ZDNmcmN6Zzc5
Manishh
Jokes aside, As I have also done moderation work else where, like above 1k reports and 500 or so appeals.


The word retard is personally a warning level offense for me, similar to profanity like Dickhead, dumbass, pussy, twat, asshole. Though there were some in our team who wanted this to be a ban-able offense but that never got approved.

Penguin also didn't directed it to someone and that does play a big role because saying 'Fuck' or saying 'Fuck you' make a difference.

Personally waste landing the thread was too much. Though a DM warning is more valid as this word been used sooooo many times in OT. But words do have values believe it or not and normalizing slurs is bad no matter how you look at it.
Polyspora

Manishh wrote:

Jokes aside, As I have also done moderation work else where, like above 1k reports and 500 or so appeals.
different places different rules L
Polyspora

Manishh wrote:

synthwavesquid wrote:

Penguin wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Like, it's just a slur want it or not, non cant do nwordmaxxing where everyone lets their inner hood out, you can't do that.
Holy shit, thats such an actual dogshit comparison.

Think 3 dimensionally bro, stop sticking to 2d black and white logic lmao.
if you have that much confidence in your judgement, then i'll put some faith in you and ask you to consider that it is a word inseperable from decades of institutional, systemic and interpersonal abuse that still happens to the intellectually disabled to this day. your personal feelings about a word do not change the meaning and impact it has had and still has. maybe consider the possibility you feel this way because your understanding is limited

even if you're well-intended, you're still handing over plausible deniability to those who do want to mock people. if it's really about "letting go of stress" and letting thoughts flow freely and stuff, you can easily find other words to use. call it stonermaxxing or whatever

>>

Patatitta wrote:

are you baiting?, like come on now
entirely believable it's not bait and he's sincerely that ticked off for being told to not use a singular word. people will say and do anything to make themselves feel better when they get defensive, especially if there's the implication they might be a "bad person" or whatever for what they've done/said
Oh god penguin what did you do to make synthwaves angry
not as hard as you think
Penguin

Manishh wrote:

Oh god penguin what did you do to make synthwaves angry
🤣

synthwavesquid wrote:

you can easily find other words to use. call it stonermaxxing or whatever
As a stoner, I find this reprehensibly offensive. How dare you. 😤

synthwavesquid wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

are you baiting?, like come on now
entirely believable it's not bait and he's sincerely that ticked off for being told to not use a singular word. people will say and do anything to make themselves feel better when they get defensive, especially if there's the implication they might be a "bad person" or whatever for what they've done/said
I think potatotitta was directing the bait question to poly, could be wrong tho. Also, you’re baiting me now. How dare you. 😤
Topic Starter
Patatitta
please guys don't doublepost, saying it because of sametdze and polyspora
Polyspora

Penguin wrote:

Manishh wrote:

Oh god penguin what did you do to make synthwaves angry
🤣

synthwavesquid wrote:

you can easily find other words to use. call it stonermaxxing or whatever
As a stoner, I find this reprehensibly offensive. How dare you. 😤

synthwavesquid wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

are you baiting?, like come on now
entirely believable it's not bait and he's sincerely that ticked off for being told to not use a singular word. people will say and do anything to make themselves feel better when they get defensive, especially if there's the implication they might be a "bad person" or whatever for what they've done/said
I think potatotitta was directing the bait question to poly, could be wrong tho. Also, you’re baiting me now. How dare you. 😤
what, when did I join the conversation, I'm just making commentaries on the side!
Topic Starter
Patatitta
the bait question was 100% directed at penguin
Polyspora
LOL
Penguin
oops teehee :)
Manishh

Polyspora wrote:

Manishh wrote:

Jokes aside, As I have also done moderation work else where, like above 1k reports and 500 or so appeals.
different places different rules L
True but where i was mod, that place was far far far more strict when it comes to profanity and even then we only gave warning for the word retard...
Topic Starter
Patatitta
I mean, times change and online rules are inconsistent ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, personally I don't think that slurs should be allowed regardless of what the context is, that includes retard, fag, etc
synthwavesquid
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Penguin

synthwavesquid wrote:

honestly penguin just looks hilariously pathetic right now

baby needs his emotional support slur to live. lmao

even if he's acting in defense, the chances he'll listen to a single thing are basically zero. i don't have the energy right now to try otherwise (and no noticable foothold, so...)
Very mature and non-hostile way of dealing with this. A tad bit ironic, all things considered 🤣

synthwavesquid wrote:

now in that case, doubling down and acting like it's bait is certainly a way to avoid accountability...
You’re doing the thing where you overthink and try to predict your opponent’s next move so that you have an upper hand in the conflict and will come out victorious with the “dub”, rather than actually having an intellectual and mature discussion about the topic at hand. ✌️
Polyspora
penguin you gotta stop, you'll take my spotlight
Penguin

Polyspora wrote:

penguin you gotta stop, you'll take my spotlight
Ymir

synthwavesquid wrote:

honestly penguin just looks hilariously pathetic right now

baby needs his emotional support slur to live. lmao

even if he's acting in defense, the chances he'll listen to a single thing are basically zero. i don't have the energy right now to try otherwise (and no noticable foothold, so...)

now if that's the case, doubling down and acting like it's bait is certainly a way to avoid accountability...
For more effective moralfagging, see: Art Subforum
Polyspora

Ymir wrote:

synthwavesquid wrote:

honestly penguin just looks hilariously pathetic right now

baby needs his emotional support slur to live. lmao

even if he's acting in defense, the chances he'll listen to a single thing are basically zero. i don't have the energy right now to try otherwise (and no noticable foothold, so...)

now if that's the case, doubling down and acting like it's bait is certainly a way to avoid accountability...
For more effective moralfagging, see: Art Subforum
I love that place!
sametdze

Ymir wrote:

sametdze wrote:

retard will always be a medical term to me, the WOKE made it a slur!
watch this

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKqZplFzwNc/?igsh=Y3k4ZDNmcmN6Zzc5
india of europe
Manishh

synthwavesquid wrote:

honestly penguin just looks hilariously pathetic right now

baby needs his emotional support slur to live. lmao

even if he's acting in defense, the chances he'll listen to a single thing are basically zero. i don't have the energy right now to try otherwise (and no noticable foothold, so...)

now if that's the case, doubling down and acting like it's bait is certainly a way to avoid accountability...
This is not even that serious bro. And penguin isn't that bad of a person as you are assuming
Polyspora

Manishh wrote:

synthwavesquid wrote:

honestly penguin just looks hilariously pathetic right now

baby needs his emotional support slur to live. lmao

even if he's acting in defense, the chances he'll listen to a single thing are basically zero. i don't have the energy right now to try otherwise (and no noticable foothold, so...)

now if that's the case, doubling down and acting like it's bait is certainly a way to avoid accountability...
This is not even that serious bro. And penguin isn't that bad of a person as you are assuming
do not trust the judgement of a monkey
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