my threads are masterpieces, it has a 90% chance of me getting banned or silenced yet i am still aliveKarmine wrote:
ohhhhhh scyla threads are clearly awful we should go scorched earth on them
At the beginning of the candidate registration, when I saw the 3 first candidate, which none convinced me, I felt like I have to do something, that why I'm running for president. I won't go for why I don't want some candidate to be president, we're not here for personal attacks.Question 1 wrote:
Why are you running for president?
I have a few projects, maybe an OT!skin 2 or a new OT!Book project within more restricted context to avoid turning into chaos. But honestly I can do that without being president...Question 2 wrote:
anything new you have in mind for OT?
I do think exile isn't something that the OT!governement should handle. Giving users the power to exclude other users is just bad in my opinion, and it would just bring more tension into OT (in worse case, it will be like in the first 2 days of the elections but every day). I don't want to have people to feel superior to other just because of a f*cking title.Question 3 wrote:
will you exile users who keeps making threads in less than 24 hours?
Yes, as I said for question 2, we need more formal rules to avoid drama. For thread quality, maybe requiring a minimum of "quality", if yes, under which criteria? I think this is a question that should be debated with the whole active OT community, if they want to see very low effort threads or a bit of quality at minimum. For the respect between OT members and the bad influence of minors, I do think the official osu! rules are doing that in some extend, but in my opinion, this is common sense.Question 4 wrote:
Do you believe formal rules or guidelines should be put in place for, among other things: Thread quality, respect between OT members, preventing bad influences on minors? Why or why not?
I do think some candidates (I won't give name) will have a bad influence on OT if not killing the governement and maybe the whole subforum. I do think I have enough time with OT (nearly 5 years wtf) to fulfull such a role. I'm also doing this for the good of OT!, and not trying to get a personal gain at all cost. If I'm GMT, it's not for the power but to answer the lack of OT! moderators back then, honestly I don't care about having control over OT. Just writing this sentence to ensure that people understand I'm not a power-hungry beast.Question 5 wrote:
Why do you believe you should be the president over the other candidates?
Achromalia, they do have a long experience in OT, and a very good ability to express calmly and to cool down the people when needed. I don't see any issue with them.Question 6 wrote:
If you couldn't vote for youself, who would you vote for?
I still think doing this with people instead of imposing in some sort is the best way to go, otherwise people will cry "1984" or "this is censor", and feel like this was decided by a few person insead of OT! in a whole, which would give more weight and legitimacy at this rule if it was implemented.Patatitta wrote:
I will accept every answer, regardless of my opinion, so thread updated (well i'm in the process of)
but surround corne's question 4, "if yes, under which criteria? I think this is a question that should be debated with the whole active OT community", That debate in specific is one that has existed for a couple years and I don't think going "I don't have any suggestions myself but I'm willing to debate it once again!" is really a strong argument when that has been tried and failed a dozen or so times now.
Also, the reason why i'm answering to you and not scyla is because you're an actually serious candidate
you're jumping to extremes, there is a logical and moral middle, the fact that you want to vote on your solution doesn't imply you shouldn't say what your proposed solution is. You can say, "IMO, I would evaluate thread quality based on the ammount of vowels it has (just to say some random example), but I wont implement anything until it's been voted"Corne2Plum3 wrote:
I still think doing this with people instead of imposing in some sort is the best way to go, otherwise people will cry "1984" or "this is censor", and feel like this was decided by a few person insead of OT! in a whole, which would give more weight and legitimacy at this rule if it was implemented.Patatitta wrote:
I will accept every answer, regardless of my opinion, so thread updated (well i'm in the process of)
but surround corne's question 4, "if yes, under which criteria? I think this is a question that should be debated with the whole active OT community", That debate in specific is one that has existed for a couple years and I don't think going "I don't have any suggestions myself but I'm willing to debate it once again!" is really a strong argument when that has been tried and failed a dozen or so times now.
Also, the reason why i'm answering to you and not scyla is because you're an actually serious candidate
SO TRUE!Ephemeral wrote:
the will of the people is for scylla to be exiled
which of you will answer?
you got a whole week, don't rush them if you're not on a good spot to answer, just make sure to have answered all by next weekAchromalia wrote:
uh oh the seagulls are here,, shoo go home shoo!! ;(
(hello again birdlord :p)
...not a convenient morning for giving attention to these questions, but let's see about something sometime later...
he doesnt even post anymore! he already ascended, you want to exile a saint!Ephemeral wrote:
the will of the people is for scylla to be exiled
which of you will answer?
SO TRUE!Ephemeral wrote:
the will of the people is for scylla to be exiled
which of you will answer?
i'm not even running but i think that yeahEphemeral wrote:
the will of the people is for scylla to be exiled
which of you will answer?
funny I guessCorne2Plum3 wrote:
Why exiling Scyla actually?
Because Ephemeral is ALWAYS RIGHT AND BASEDCorne2Plum3 wrote:
Why exiling Scyla actually?
3 or 4 seems actually able to win imoPolyspora wrote:
only 2 reallyz0z wrote:
damn 9 candidates
who 👀Patatitta wrote:
I expect some candidates to get DQed this round tbh
you for example have yet to answer the questionsigorsprite wrote:
who 👀Patatitta wrote:
I expect some candidates to get DQed this round tbh
😭Patatitta wrote:
you for example have yet to answer the questionsigorsprite wrote:
who 👀Patatitta wrote:
I expect some candidates to get DQed this round tbh
I got boredQuestion 1 wrote:
Why are you running for president?
No, everything is okay as is. Events are more so on the community itself, not to be govern.Question 2 wrote:
anything new you have in mind for OT?
No, what's the point in that? It's a post, often not harmful in any way. A lock takes a simple click.Question 3 wrote:
will you exile users who keeps making threads in less than 24 hours?
I don't believe there should be for thread quality and respect. Off-Topic as a general meaning is basically just shitpost central, so that can be subsided. And respect within a forum page just sounds stupid to me.Question 4 wrote:
Do you believe formal rules or guidelines should be put in place for, among other things: Thread quality, respect between OT members, preventing bad influences on minors? Why or why not?
I don't. I'm not a person with strong opinions nor can I recognize changes to better suit OT.Question 5 wrote:
Why do you believe you should be the president over the other candidates?
AchromaliaQuestion 6 wrote:
If you couldn't vote for youself, who would you vote for?
I have no clue what you mean by that second part but I will fix itAchromalia wrote:
quotes broke, and the italics-code emoticon-breaker was missing :<
this time i made that phrase up, what i mean is the use of empty bold/italics/strikethrough (et cetera) bbcode brackets in between specific emoticons like :) and :o and :Patatitta wrote:
I have no clue what you mean by that second part but I will fix itAchromalia wrote:
quotes broke, and the italics-code emoticon-breaker was missing :<
or
or 
ah, honestly didn't know people did that, honestly i'm going to let it stay as it is, kinda lazy to change itAchromalia wrote:
this time i made that phrase up, what i mean is the use of empty bold/italics/strikethrough (et cetera) bbcode brackets in between specific emoticons like :) and :o and :Patatitta wrote:
I have no clue what you mean by that second part but I will fix itAchromalia wrote:
quotes broke, and the italics-code emoticon-breaker was missing :<D so they dont become
or
or
This is actually a very useful feature and is not meant to be fixed. It's much easier than Googling for a zero-width space and copying and pasting it.Patatitta wrote:
ah, honestly didn't know people did that, honestly i'm going to let it stay as it is, kinda lazy to change itAchromalia wrote:
this time i made that phrase up, what i mean is the use of empty bold/italics/strikethrough (et cetera) bbcode brackets in between specific emoticons like :) and :o and :Patatitta wrote:
I have no clue what you mean by that second part but I will fix itAchromalia wrote:
quotes broke, and the italics-code emoticon-breaker was missing :<D so they dont become
or
or
what?, I don't think you understood me, I meant that I didn't know people put stuff to prevent the autoconversion of the emotes, not that it doesn't make sense, I just had never thought about that. I'm talking about how i'm too lazy to put that bbcode in so that it doesn't convert the emojis. How would I have the authority to change how the forum operates to remove that interaction?Behrauder wrote:
This is actually a very useful feature and is not meant to be fixed. It's much easier than Googling for a zero-width space and copying and pasting it.Patatitta wrote:
ah, honestly didn't know people did that, honestly i'm going to let it stay as it is, kinda lazy to change itAchromalia wrote:
this time i made that phrase up, what i mean is the use of empty bold/italics/strikethrough (et cetera) bbcode brackets in between specific emoticons like :) and :o and :Patatitta wrote:
I have no clue what you mean by that second part but I will fix itAchromalia wrote:
quotes broke, and the italics-code emoticon-breaker was missing :<D so they dont become
or
or
too late, just answer the questions if you want to, you wont be included in the OP tho.MistressRemilia wrote:
So can I still throw in my name at this point, or is it too late? Just answer the questions?
hatrick of exilement, you never sing thatEphemeral wrote:
the will of the people is for scylla to be exiled
which of you will answer?
How do you plan to do this, how will you bring more structure without making things rigid, how will you make leadership into something that acutally listens to the people in here, you can claim your goals, yes, that's honorable, but you need to stablish a howIAMACROBA wrote:
I want to encourage engagement, bring more structure without making things rigid, and make leadership something that actually listens and responds to the people here.
like which ones?, what do you suggest?, what events will you host when you get president?IAMACROBA wrote:
Yes. I’d like to see more structured events to keep things interesting
what's your suggestion to achieve that balance?IAMACROBA wrote:
"and I think we can find a balance that keeps things fun while also making it a place people want to stick around in. "
how do you plan to reach that middle ground?, why do you think we're not on that middle ground yet?IAMACROBA wrote:
Some basic guidelines wouldn’t hurt, but I wouldn’t want OT to feel overregulated. Encouraging quality discussion and mutual respect is important, but too many rules could take away what makes OT fun. There needs to be a middle ground where people can still be themselves without making the space unwelcoming for others.
you've yet to really say anything you want to do with this roleIAMACROBA wrote:
Because I want to actually do something with this role
be specific, say a name, don't dodge the questiom.IAMACROBA wrote:
Whoever has a clear plan and genuinely cares about OT, not just someone running because they can. The best leader would be someone who listens to the community and wants to make positive changes rather than just holding the title.
You're like corne on this one, "The will of the people!" but you have forgotten you yourself are part of the people, do you want it to stay?, do you want for it to be gone?, this is a political race, you got to show your programs, you cant just go like "ohhhh yeahhh if I get power then I will see what the people want". Specially with denizen, I don't think we're going to reach a concensus by just more debate without anyone proposing any solution, and the first ones that should be proposing solution is us the presidents, so suggest something god damn itIAMACROBA wrote:
Right now, it doesn’t serve much of a purpose. If we’re going to keep it, it should actually mean something—maybe giving denizens a role in community decisions or exclusive participation in certain events. If not, we should be honest about whether it’s even necessary.
What events would you host, what events have you hosted in the past? "I’ve been part of events and discussions that bring people together" can't you name an example?, a specific thread you've made?IAMACROBA wrote:
Yes, absolutely. Community engagement is one of the most important things for keeping OT active. Before running, I’ve been part of events and discussions that bring people together, and I’d love to build on that with bigger, better-organized activities. Things like game nights, creative contests, and interactive discussions could all make OT more engaging.
They shouldn't have unchecked power, okay, what powers shouldn't they have?, how would a good president look like, what options would they take? be specific. Name exact policies.IAMACROBA wrote:
I think having some form of leadership helps keep things organized, but it shouldn’t be overcomplicated. The president should be a representative and organizer, not someone with unchecked power. Their role should be about encouraging engagement, keeping things running smoothly, and making sure the community has a say in how OT is shaped.
which boundaries do you suggest?IAMACROBA wrote:
Yes, as long as there are boundaries. A GMT president would need to separate their mod duties from their leadership role to avoid conflicts of interest. If they can do that fairly, I don’t see an issue.
be specific, which were my good intentions and soldi ideas?, where did I drop the ball? what are the lessons we are meant to learn?IAMACROBA wrote:
There were some good intentions and solid ideas, but there were also areas where things could have been handled better. I think there could have been more transparency and communication with the community. Instead of focusing on the past, I’d rather take lessons from it and improve moving forward.
how do you plan to keep things organized so it doesn't take over everything else?IAMACROBA wrote:
Role-playing has always been part of OT, and I don’t think that should change. My goal is to make sure it stays fun and accessible while also keeping it organized so that it doesn’t take over everything else.
you claim it's nto about personal opinions, yet measuring their contribution IS subjective and opinion-based, now answer, do you, acroba, think corne is contributing in a way that benefits OT?IAMACROBA wrote:
If the current team is overwhelmed, adding more GMTs makes sense. As for whether someone should quit, that depends on whether they’re actively doing their job. It’s not about personal opinions—it’s about whether they’re contributing in a way that benefits OT.
"there needs to be a better way"IAMACROBA wrote:
Yes, like any community, there are things that could be better. A few issues I see are:
1. Spam and low-quality threads. There needs to be a way to encourage better discussions without making people feel like they have to overthink every post.
2. Leadership that feels disconnected. I want to make sure there’s real communication between leadership and the people in OT so that decisions reflect what the community actually wants.
3. Lack of engagement. More structured events and ways to interact could make OT feel more active and welcoming.
no, the whole poltiiacl rp has not brought the community together, have you seen the drama it caused?, gmts were talking about canceling the elections and gov, we now have the question of if gov is even necessary just because of that, yes, there are meme candidates but even scyla kinda has their ideas more clear, actually saying how they would use their powers rather than just suggesting things they could do without themIAMACROBA wrote:
It seems like a lot of candidates are running just for the sake of it or out of spite—do you not feel the same way?
This whole "political" RP has actually brought the community together. Your megathread has sparked more engagement than we've seen in months, aside from spam. And if you’re grilling me this much, doesn’t that show you care just as much as I do?
You call *me* out of touch, but I’ve cared about this from the start. It wasn’t a scam—I was invested until it became a game of nitpicking every idea I had.
I’ve always been vocal about my views on this community. I might not have as much experience as others, know every detail of its history, or be the most active, but I care. I speak up because I hate the lack of transparency and constant discourse.
I never wanted the *title* of president—I wanted change. I wanted people to actually listen instead of brushing me off. My frustration comes from passion, from caring about where this community is headed. If I didn’t, I wouldn’t bother speaking up.
Even if I’m not around 24/7, I still check in, report issues, and try to offer solutions. Maybe I’m too idealistic, but I just want OT to feel like it used to—like the place older users talk about. Right now, it just feels like a space for shitposting and arguments.
I see people doing a lot of things to get that osu supporter if you know what I meanz0z wrote:
this place has no economy other than social interaction
Asian Warlord wrote:
also last question
What day do you think Playboi Carti is going to drop "I Am Music"?
not yetz0z wrote:
this place has no economy other than social interaction
I think there was good ideas with Patatitta OT!Eras, however it's not really perfect, such as handling people between 2 years and I feel like it's been used to exclude inactive OT!users, which I think it shouldn't be. I think I'd keep the denizen system in place, but with objective criteria, as Patatitta was looking for, to avoid drama. It may change but I'd set the requirements as:Question 7 wrote:
What do you plan for the denizen system? If keeping it what would you do with it? (So far it has almost only ever been used for elections)
None 🐺Question 8 wrote:
What normative ethical framework guides you, whether it be religiously ordained or otherwise?
Weird question to talk about future and if answering yes, talking about the past.Question 9 wrote:
Will you host events if you were to win?, If the answer is yes, what events have you hosted WITHOUT being president?
Depends of what OT!governement is. It is just RP and/or a counter power against GMT? I've seen both since I'm GMT in 2023...Question 10 wrote:
Do we need an OT! government nowadays? If yes, what powers the president should have?
I don't see the GMT role and the president role as mutually exclusive. abraker had both roles at the same time (more exactly, he became GMT during his presidency) and it went well, not too much drama, overall it worked!Question 11 wrote:
Do you think GMTs should be able to be president and why?
For behaviour, I'm clearly not happy of Patatitta's behavior, and I've spat enough (probably too much) at him, so I won't spend any more time saying what I thought was wrong. But I do think there's still room for improvement. At least despite the bad experience I personnaly had the whole year, things got done. So I'll just say that with more transparancy, less stubborn and arrogant behaviour, he would have been a very great president.Question 12 wrote:
Your opinions on Patatitta's presidency, whatever it's about their behavior or their actions taken? (WITHOUT BEING SALTY)
Try to bring in back, not forcing too much into the political side of OT (OT!governement, etc.) because it causes more heated discussions than fun. Then, if it fails, I'll just give up. I can't force RP of there are nobody to engage with, and the only way to eventually revive it is new people wanting to RP comes to OT.Question 13 wrote:
What's your goals regarding role playing in OT?
Yes, for transparency. The denizens should know what the government is going.Question 15 wrote:
Do you think the government's group chat should be public? (for transparency for example)
I'm not against 1 or 2 more GMTs dedicated to OT. At the moment there's only me and abraker (who's sometimes inactive) who are GMTs especially for OT. And for the 2nd question, I'm not the best placed to answer it.Question 16 wrote:
Should we have more GMTs dedicated to OT? Also, should Corne2Plum3 quit?
I'd delete the reply in addition of locking the thread (without replying), to avoid giving attention to the necroposter, which is sometimes what they're looking for.Question 17 wrote:
What actions should be taken in case of necropost in OT?
I don't think OT as is doesn't have a ton of problem, put aside the government crisis, which isn't really a big issue, thinking about. I'd say there are some toxic users but then the responsibility is for people, not me. However the only thing I can do is doing my job as GMT.Question 18 wrote:
Do you think OT has any problems? If yes, how would you go about fixing them?
I'm hesitating between these two:Question 19 wrote:
Can you send your best thread?
I think the community is fine, a lot better than what we could except from a shitposting subforum. I find some people annoying but this is a minority. I feel like it's a nice place to act "weird" without being judged too hard.Question 20 wrote:
What do you think about the OT community? What do you like/dislike about it?
[recycled character]
off-topic characteristics... im not exactly sure yetabraker wrote:
we got an OT flag before GTA 6
+ black and dark-grey and brown and burgundy, all of these seem like primary colors to focus on as a theme-- my color choices are really very on-the-nose from the website design and i think it's a fair-enough characteristic feature for representing off-topic users. i hoped to use black/grey/brown for something that "cloaks" or "hides" in the background or as a mundane feature, so hair and eyes and cardigans(?)/jackets seemed ok for that, but i think the actual little puppet mascot at the side would have burgundy eyes or something... in the meanwhile, burgundy would be the primary color of self-expression and taking up attention first and foremost, so i believed it should be "closest to the heart" as well as eyes and lips but i was not really into the secondary parts and left it at eyeshadow
+ yellow for those warnings/silences, using stickers seemed very intuitive and satisfying but then i realized i didnt know what to do with that. people will probably only ever see yellow because of some kind of forum infraction so i bundle it up with the idea of gmt moderation
+ green has been the most difficult for me, because the green is for very different things on the site... green outlines new posts and activity here in the "other" category of subforums, but in current relevant subforum politics we also have gmts who are viewed by some with suspicion. as a result i think of cuffs and collars as sites of control/suffocation, but green buttons are intended to represent both threads new posts (the ring outline) as well as moderator activity (the green dot beside the name of each gmt). notably, buttoning together and veiling the red-and-blue "expression and freedom" under the cardigan/jacket seemed intuitive to me
+ blue is the second-most difficult, because by now the color palette is a lot harder to organize and balance appealingly, but blue is typically representing normal user activity and a few other secondary buttons, so i tried a ton of things with the turtleneck sweater and jacket before settling on a dotted pattern that represents a multitude of individual users and their "dots"
+ for the puppet... the burgundy spiral eye is shaped with the community's dizzy disorganized disposition and the "you can never leave" meme in mind, while the green button eye is a literal button that would revisit the "post" button and the theme of new activity. the collar is probably green and/or yellow again. the "off" of "off-topic" is shaping the eye and the grin because i love doing that with letters, and the grin is stitched up because it just seemed to fit somehow, meanwhile the turtleneck collar is itself the "t" of "topic" and the zipper could somehow be the "o"
+ for the flag... the same color principles apply, i was super indecisive with it and went through maybe ten or eleven iterations before i gave up and left it with the overlapping green-tab and blue-cursor design, their meanings were hopefully easy enough to infer
dq, only answered 1 question in a whole week like I know they were the fan favourite but come on, even with previous elections rules where you only had to answer 4 questions total they would have been dqedPolyspora wrote:
what where is achro
idk gov cancelled I guess but reyalp already voted also you can selfvotesametdze wrote:
what if we just didnt vote
in another universe you just barely made it in the threadAchromalia wrote:
splitting this into a couple parts...
oh... wait did daylight savings already happen?? i thought i had forty-five more minutes :sob: i didnt know the thread updated either but thats on me for tunnel-visioning
no, even daylight savings is a couple days later, i think i just misremembered what time the deadline was... :< that's really cringe[ question #1: "why are you running for president?" ]
...admittedly, the primary case of my candidacy was my own boredom x')
but it also seemed to me like troubled institutions like denizenship have costed time and attention with ambiguous reward, and concerns about recent gmt behavior/activity had been floating at the forefront for a while with limited apparent benefit to user experience. it seemed to loom and linger rather than being a subject of interest (or rather, those who wrote passionate[?] objections would go on with underwhelming reception) and many more people expressed exhaustion with these issues (introducing absolutist solutions like "drop denizenship entirely", "dissolve government entirely", "drop presidency entirely"). most of anything this subforum's government has ever uniquely been capable of, beyond denizens themselves, appears to be minimal in scope
in essence, i'm another loosely-sentimental "give voting power to the people" candidate, somewhere between patatitta and corne, and flexible toward any of those political directions and perhaps beyond the platforms of either of them depending on contextually-informed communal consensus wherever/whenever it proves to concern us
for patatitta, i imagine the flexibility and lax platform makes it difficult to find what you're looking for from off-topic if i were too aimless or receptive to something diverging from your platform... but i imagine you yourself would continue to have a voice, and i think i'd be sympathetic to your thoughts/concerns from what you've been expressing throughout your time here
for corne, i imagine some cultural and interpersonal contexts make it a bit touchy to address where we stand on the gmt-and-user power-dynamic issue when this imbalance is concentrated in people uniquely capable of enforcing the nature of expression and culture. it's easy enough for me to imagine it being concerning regardless of precedent when you would be someone who has forum-wide discretion to exercise that power, regardless of stated intentions, especially because past behaviors and moderation choices have made it difficult to believe and trust in that promise you're making. but at the same time, i don't really believe that deeply or strongly in "legislating" against it, in a position where our "government" is barely in a position to regulate anything at all. we have limited power to affect moderators beyond report buttons for extreme offenses, of which we normally don't see from anyone in any way[ question #2: "anything new you have in mind for ot?" ]
i'd characterize my response as mostly being something between wimpy and patatitta... specifically, i'm sympathetic to the belief that events should largely survive on community approval and utility and be freely created and hosted by any of y'all who want to see something and are willing to do something. if there was to be any institutional presence in hosting events, then i'm interested in supplementing community activity with an optional thread-drafting service for brainstorming and supplying aesthetic materials and editing/curating for an intended purpose, possibly also maintaining or refining a service in someone's stead in case they're inactive or busy so that they can catch up a little easier :>
but there's a touch of corne's administrative touch in my thoughts. i'd probably hover over the prospect of formalizing rules and rewriting a modernized constitution, prioritizing clarity with conciseness and ease of application in mind... defining denizenship is not exactly a personal plan but may be included as a result for the sake of consistency and efficiency
either way, i've been describing and expressing myself as "the arts-and-culture candidate", and that's generally something i do believe i could contrast the recent administrative/security focus with. demographics and history and biography, art and music and writing, i will likely be searching for a lot since i'm here a lot anyway and am interested in answering those questions for myself... furthermore, it's probably easier if that pursuit exists as an institution that is given credibility and that others can contribute to :>
i'm sure i would be open to a lot more, it's a bit disappointing that i'm not really listing quite as directly concise of an answer as this would merit in order to really demonstrate what i'd submit for introduction into off-topic daily life, but this is a timed assignment and i'm writing this in last-minute;;[question #3: "will you exile users who keep making threads in less than 24 hours?" ]
it wouldnt really seem proportionate to me...
still, i could understand spam/shitposting being frustrating/exhausting to some :') i imagine some are more likely to value and rely on coherent discussions and resources for specific interests, or they have strained relationships/sentiments with someone they dislike seeing in a community they occupy, or they suspect these behaviors to be damaging for us in general even if expected from off-topic
...i likely wouldnt be interested in strict observation of threadlocking either (with some opportunity for exception and further definition depending on consensus of user opinions), but any issue (including spam/shitposting and exile/restriction) will affect more people than myself, so, my position is only a starting point from which i'd deliberate and negotiate with anyone actively concerned :0[ question #4: "do you believe formal rules/guidelines should be put in place for, among other things: thread quality, respect between ot members, preventing bad influences on minors? why or why not?" ]
this is a case-by-case kind of question for me, so
for thread quality, absolutely not. independent of defining thread quality itself, different people enjoy different threads anyway and are catered to by threads that others may consider to be "low-quality" or are bored by ones other consider "high-quality". any effect i could imagine a government having is a sort of supplemental thread-support service that has no enforceable weight in compelling a user to do anything beyond what is agreed... for threads that seem questionable either by some morally/ethically objectionable basis or by sheer annoyance/frustration, i'm more likely to approach this with patatitta's framework-- lock when people appeal for it, or when the content is otherwise proving to be actively harming someone
for interpersonal respect, to a legislative extent, i'm open to some additional guidelines but currently am more inclined to let this remain informal. i don't disagree with the premise of wanting to encourage civility or peacemaking, it's actually my preference, but making it into a formal rule in some way is difficult to enforce and in many cases is needlessly restrictive. if i were to do anything, then it'd be more of an interpersonal and individual thing that isn't enforced so much as it is an offer. like stated by patatitta, you can report behavior upstream when it's serious, given that we have a very minimal influence beyond what is effectively social shunning
for preventing influence on minors, the more grave things are already addressed in the forum-wide rules but i imagine people could offer their thoughts if there was anything they believed should be legislated. i'm tentatively in limbo both for and against this, but i do feel a bit more likely to be personally-motivated to formalize something if it had popular appeal and was given adequate consideration[ question #5: "why do you believe you should be the president over the other candidates?" ]
i don't quite believe that, no. this is more of an option if people think i would be in any way better suited in their own perspectives, rather than mine alone... but i do think there are things that can best be done when you're put in a credible position to practice what you preach directly with the responsibility of influence granted to you[ question #7: "what do you plan for the denizen system? if keeping it, what would you do with it? so far, it has almost only ever been used for elections..." ]
i... don't have a strong answer here. i'm not very personally interested in any particular approach and would probably defer to others on this. i think i would keep it, and possibly offer to curate it-- an important distinction to make is also one of who has the responsibility/ownership of a thread and whether the government would/should have any power in compelling someone like patatitta with his own denizen-related or denizen-adjacent systems to change that model as a result of new administration. in fact, i'm curious whether there would be other possible approaches, where we create separate systems that can eventually be voted on
...but that's somewhere in the midground or background for me, unless some sort of popular appeal is made[ question #8: "what normative ethical framework guides you, whether it be religiously ordained or otherwise?" ]
a normative ethical framework...? it's possible there's an informal code of ethics i follow, but most of this is an extension of a very vague interpretation of a do-no-harm principle according to my own biases, or something like that. it's not something i could really imagine listing explicitly, and anything i follow is also often-times something i apply to myself more than being anything i would apply for anyone else
i'm... not adherent to a religious code or spiritual faith at all, as far as i'm aware[ question #0: "will you host events if you were to win? if the answer is yes, what events have you hosted without being president?" ]
most likely, yes!! i've mostly aimed for art-related events though, which i think i've done twice now. once maybe six-ish years ago (something like "ot amateur artwork avenue") and again somewhere within the past several months (something like "ms paint, and a survey of off-topic culture", but i forgot most of the titles throughout its lifetime)
i've likely done a couple other things, some threads related to presidency and one as an extension of a custom/tradition called "ot executions" which i barely remembered just now and am pretty sure i failed to maintain at the time;;
from here on, i... am probably going to be a bit more crazed with the events. again, arts and culture, including "whiteboard"-related events like possible aggie.io sessions (if applicable?) or art collaborations, possibly events retelling or revising old off-topic lore, or threads outlining intraforum subcultures of people and biographies, yearbooks and so on :D
...but that's not unique to something a president or government official would be capable of, really[ question #10: "do we need an off-topic government nowadays? if yes, what powers should the president have?" ]
...my nitpick is with "need" and "should", but i can imagine there being a use for it, even if not very clear or immediate. whether that utility is wielded well within our lifespans of activity here, i'm not sure i could say. i could only hope we make it easier if we do deem a quasi-roleplay government to be our best way to achieve that ^^;; i'll likely start with appealing to what we already have, but leaving changes up to appeal or suggestions by other people
real brosametdze wrote:
in another universe you just barely made it in the threadAchromalia wrote:
splitting this into a couple parts...
oh... wait did daylight savings already happen?? i thought i had forty-five more minutes :sob: i didnt know the thread updated either but thats on me for tunnel-visioning
no, even daylight savings is a couple days later, i think i just misremembered what time the deadline was... :< that's really cringe[ question #1: "why are you running for president?" ]
...admittedly, the primary case of my candidacy was my own boredom x')
but it also seemed to me like troubled institutions like denizenship have costed time and attention with ambiguous reward, and concerns about recent gmt behavior/activity had been floating at the forefront for a while with limited apparent benefit to user experience. it seemed to loom and linger rather than being a subject of interest (or rather, those who wrote passionate[?] objections would go on with underwhelming reception) and many more people expressed exhaustion with these issues (introducing absolutist solutions like "drop denizenship entirely", "dissolve government entirely", "drop presidency entirely"). most of anything this subforum's government has ever uniquely been capable of, beyond denizens themselves, appears to be minimal in scope
in essence, i'm another loosely-sentimental "give voting power to the people" candidate, somewhere between patatitta and corne, and flexible toward any of those political directions and perhaps beyond the platforms of either of them depending on contextually-informed communal consensus wherever/whenever it proves to concern us
for patatitta, i imagine the flexibility and lax platform makes it difficult to find what you're looking for from off-topic if i were too aimless or receptive to something diverging from your platform... but i imagine you yourself would continue to have a voice, and i think i'd be sympathetic to your thoughts/concerns from what you've been expressing throughout your time here
for corne, i imagine some cultural and interpersonal contexts make it a bit touchy to address where we stand on the gmt-and-user power-dynamic issue when this imbalance is concentrated in people uniquely capable of enforcing the nature of expression and culture. it's easy enough for me to imagine it being concerning regardless of precedent when you would be someone who has forum-wide discretion to exercise that power, regardless of stated intentions, especially because past behaviors and moderation choices have made it difficult to believe and trust in that promise you're making. but at the same time, i don't really believe that deeply or strongly in "legislating" against it, in a position where our "government" is barely in a position to regulate anything at all. we have limited power to affect moderators beyond report buttons for extreme offenses, of which we normally don't see from anyone in any way[ question #2: "anything new you have in mind for ot?" ]
i'd characterize my response as mostly being something between wimpy and patatitta... specifically, i'm sympathetic to the belief that events should largely survive on community approval and utility and be freely created and hosted by any of y'all who want to see something and are willing to do something. if there was to be any institutional presence in hosting events, then i'm interested in supplementing community activity with an optional thread-drafting service for brainstorming and supplying aesthetic materials and editing/curating for an intended purpose, possibly also maintaining or refining a service in someone's stead in case they're inactive or busy so that they can catch up a little easier :>
but there's a touch of corne's administrative touch in my thoughts. i'd probably hover over the prospect of formalizing rules and rewriting a modernized constitution, prioritizing clarity with conciseness and ease of application in mind... defining denizenship is not exactly a personal plan but may be included as a result for the sake of consistency and efficiency
either way, i've been describing and expressing myself as "the arts-and-culture candidate", and that's generally something i do believe i could contrast the recent administrative/security focus with. demographics and history and biography, art and music and writing, i will likely be searching for a lot since i'm here a lot anyway and am interested in answering those questions for myself... furthermore, it's probably easier if that pursuit exists as an institution that is given credibility and that others can contribute to :>
i'm sure i would be open to a lot more, it's a bit disappointing that i'm not really listing quite as directly concise of an answer as this would merit in order to really demonstrate what i'd submit for introduction into off-topic daily life, but this is a timed assignment and i'm writing this in last-minute;;[question #3: "will you exile users who keep making threads in less than 24 hours?" ]
it wouldnt really seem proportionate to me...
still, i could understand spam/shitposting being frustrating/exhausting to some :') i imagine some are more likely to value and rely on coherent discussions and resources for specific interests, or they have strained relationships/sentiments with someone they dislike seeing in a community they occupy, or they suspect these behaviors to be damaging for us in general even if expected from off-topic
...i likely wouldnt be interested in strict observation of threadlocking either (with some opportunity for exception and further definition depending on consensus of user opinions), but any issue (including spam/shitposting and exile/restriction) will affect more people than myself, so, my position is only a starting point from which i'd deliberate and negotiate with anyone actively concerned :0[ question #4: "do you believe formal rules/guidelines should be put in place for, among other things: thread quality, respect between ot members, preventing bad influences on minors? why or why not?" ]
this is a case-by-case kind of question for me, so
for thread quality, absolutely not. independent of defining thread quality itself, different people enjoy different threads anyway and are catered to by threads that others may consider to be "low-quality" or are bored by ones other consider "high-quality". any effect i could imagine a government having is a sort of supplemental thread-support service that has no enforceable weight in compelling a user to do anything beyond what is agreed... for threads that seem questionable either by some morally/ethically objectionable basis or by sheer annoyance/frustration, i'm more likely to approach this with patatitta's framework-- lock when people appeal for it, or when the content is otherwise proving to be actively harming someone
for interpersonal respect, to a legislative extent, i'm open to some additional guidelines but currently am more inclined to let this remain informal. i don't disagree with the premise of wanting to encourage civility or peacemaking, it's actually my preference, but making it into a formal rule in some way is difficult to enforce and in many cases is needlessly restrictive. if i were to do anything, then it'd be more of an interpersonal and individual thing that isn't enforced so much as it is an offer. like stated by patatitta, you can report behavior upstream when it's serious, given that we have a very minimal influence beyond what is effectively social shunning
for preventing influence on minors, the more grave things are already addressed in the forum-wide rules but i imagine people could offer their thoughts if there was anything they believed should be legislated. i'm tentatively in limbo both for and against this, but i do feel a bit more likely to be personally-motivated to formalize something if it had popular appeal and was given adequate consideration[ question #5: "why do you believe you should be the president over the other candidates?" ]
i don't quite believe that, no. this is more of an option if people think i would be in any way better suited in their own perspectives, rather than mine alone... but i do think there are things that can best be done when you're put in a credible position to practice what you preach directly with the responsibility of influence granted to you[ question #7: "what do you plan for the denizen system? if keeping it, what would you do with it? so far, it has almost only ever been used for elections..." ]
i... don't have a strong answer here. i'm not very personally interested in any particular approach and would probably defer to others on this. i think i would keep it, and possibly offer to curate it-- an important distinction to make is also one of who has the responsibility/ownership of a thread and whether the government would/should have any power in compelling someone like patatitta with his own denizen-related or denizen-adjacent systems to change that model as a result of new administration. in fact, i'm curious whether there would be other possible approaches, where we create separate systems that can eventually be voted on
...but that's somewhere in the midground or background for me, unless some sort of popular appeal is made[ question #8: "what normative ethical framework guides you, whether it be religiously ordained or otherwise?" ]
a normative ethical framework...? it's possible there's an informal code of ethics i follow, but most of this is an extension of a very vague interpretation of a do-no-harm principle according to my own biases, or something like that. it's not something i could really imagine listing explicitly, and anything i follow is also often-times something i apply to myself more than being anything i would apply for anyone else
i'm... not adherent to a religious code or spiritual faith at all, as far as i'm aware[ question #0: "will you host events if you were to win? if the answer is yes, what events have you hosted without being president?" ]
most likely, yes!! i've mostly aimed for art-related events though, which i think i've done twice now. once maybe six-ish years ago (something like "ot amateur artwork avenue") and again somewhere within the past several months (something like "ms paint, and a survey of off-topic culture", but i forgot most of the titles throughout its lifetime)
i've likely done a couple other things, some threads related to presidency and one as an extension of a custom/tradition called "ot executions" which i barely remembered just now and am pretty sure i failed to maintain at the time;;
from here on, i... am probably going to be a bit more crazed with the events. again, arts and culture, including "whiteboard"-related events like possible aggie.io sessions (if applicable?) or art collaborations, possibly events retelling or revising old off-topic lore, or threads outlining intraforum subcultures of people and biographies, yearbooks and so on :D
...but that's not unique to something a president or government official would be capable of, really[ question #10: "do we need an off-topic government nowadays? if yes, what powers should the president have?" ]
...my nitpick is with "need" and "should", but i can imagine there being a use for it, even if not very clear or immediate. whether that utility is wielded well within our lifespans of activity here, i'm not sure i could say. i could only hope we make it easier if we do deem a quasi-roleplay government to be our best way to achieve that ^^;; i'll likely start with appealing to what we already have, but leaving changes up to appeal or suggestions by other people
i would've voted you
im actually more saddened that this got nothing other than abraker's attention.....Achromalia wrote:
hi so instead of me answering questions how about i give you art to buy your voteand to stall until any questions are answered:)
(/joking, im acknowledging the rules go unchanged!! but i am lazy so the stalling part is true lol)quirky off-topic subforum gijinka/mascot draft v1
w/ indecisively mediocre(?) design except that humanoid thing is a thinly veiled[recycled character]
this flag looks like an LGBT thingAchromalia wrote:
also wouldnt it be funny if we had a function of popular-vote override
...no at this point im grasping for straws i dont even completely want x'pim actually more saddened that this got nothing other than abraker's attention.....Achromalia wrote:
hi so instead of me answering questions how about i give you art to buy your voteand to stall until any questions are answered:)
(/joking, im acknowledging the rules go unchanged!! but i am lazy so the stalling part is true lol)quirky off-topic subforum gijinka/mascot draft v1
w/ indecisively mediocre(?) design except that humanoid thing is a thinly veiled[recycled character]
note to self, make the art i care about After the questions i dont care as much about