kinda cause people start throwing tantrums when things don't go their wayMeah wrote:
That's so sadScyla wrote:
just people's obsession with trying to stand out from the rest and wanting to be rememberedMeah wrote:
When you just checked off topic after a very long time and the issue is still about the denizenshit thing
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Is there a tl;dr?
I thought denizenship was something decidedly retroactively on baraker's whim.
I thought denizenship was something decidedly retroactively on baraker's whim.
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read the first sentenceEndaris wrote:
Is there a tl;dr?
I thought denizenship was something decidedly retroactively on baraker's whim.
tldr, The denizen system is kind of broken and a bit too subjective with the generation stuff, so let's have OT!Eras instead with actual guidelines for denizenshipEndaris wrote:
Is there a tl;dr?
I thought denizenship was something decidedly retroactively on baraker's whim.
or in Lamens term, let's have a system to try and make people rememberable instead of it being a funny goof
TL;DR denizen bad, this good
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It roughly equates to making 2 posts/day which seems like a lot when there's nothing interesting happening but any interesting thread can easily get you to post 5+ times over a few days
How to implement it could be decided by looking at what worked and what didn't with previous threads with similar ideas (denizens lol)
The main issue with any thread based on this system will be if you (or threads OP) become inactive and no one keeps it up to date, just like what's happening with basically everything abraker did, but at least it would have existed for a time
It's actually really interesting to see how the place evolved over time, and it makes people who say it was better before sound silly (some post and even entire threads from back then are abhorrent and would probably get you silenced/banned today)
It's sad that no one keeps it up to date though but the more time passes the more work it would require to fix it
Still it's worth reading it, especially if you're out of ideas for a thread, there are good things highlighted there
5 pages (250 posts!) seemed like a lot at first but even though I'm not as active as I used to and was completely offline for 2 weeks I have 5 pages over the last 2 months, there doesn't seem to be any 4 months stretch where I didn't reach itPatatitta wrote:
-In order to become a member of an era, you must have at least 5 pages of posts/threads, spread over 4 months of activity on OT, so, a user that has constantly posted for at least 4 months of a year, would be part of an era. The post count does not take into consideration Forum games or Mafia, only main offtopic posts counts
It roughly equates to making 2 posts/day which seems like a lot when there's nothing interesting happening but any interesting thread can easily get you to post 5+ times over a few days
I can easily see something replacing denizenship with highlighting the most important people of an era, kind of like a Hall of FamePatatitta wrote:
If anyone wants to make a better government/else, basing itself on eras, or just their standalone system, I actually encourage making that
How to implement it could be decided by looking at what worked and what didn't with previous threads with similar ideas (denizens lol)
The main issue with any thread based on this system will be if you (or threads OP) become inactive and no one keeps it up to date, just like what's happening with basically everything abraker did, but at least it would have existed for a time
I havePatatitta wrote:
no one has actually read the ot!chronicles, a thread that is very incomplete and no one has pointed it out in the past year
It's actually really interesting to see how the place evolved over time, and it makes people who say it was better before sound silly (some post and even entire threads from back then are abhorrent and would probably get you silenced/banned today)
It's sad that no one keeps it up to date though but the more time passes the more work it would require to fix it
Still it's worth reading it, especially if you're out of ideas for a thread, there are good things highlighted there
I read like half the post and then I was like "...is there going to be a point?"Patatitta wrote:
read the first sentenceEndaris wrote:
Is there a tl;dr?
I thought denizenship was something decidedly retroactively on baraker's whim.
But whatever I read, it wasn't what was in the tl;dr
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I dont know if I clarified it correctly, you dont need to do the 5 pages on the 4 month timespan, if you only post 3 pages on the first 4 months, but then you stay in OT more time and post another 2 pages, even if it took you longer, that would count and you would be included into eras
about maintaining the thread, I think I will keep playing osu and browsing OT for at least a couple more years, I dont see myself quitting soon, so yeah, I think I might be able to maintain it for at least a couple years
about maintaining the thread, I think I will keep playing osu and browsing OT for at least a couple more years, I dont see myself quitting soon, so yeah, I think I might be able to maintain it for at least a couple years
I've only read a little bit of it and it sounds good. I'll read more of it later and give my full opinion.
Yeah I wasn't sure about that but anyway 5 pages seems reasonable to mePatatitta wrote:
I dont know if I clarified it correctly, you dont need to do the 5 pages on the 4 month timespan, if you only post 3 pages on the first 4 months, but then you stay in OT more time and post another 2 pages, even if it took you longer, that would count and you would be included into eras
about maintaining the thread, I think I will keep playing osu and browsing OT for at least a couple more years, I dont see myself quitting soon, so yeah, I think I might be able to maintain it for at least a couple years
You probably wouldn't make this thread if you planned on quitting soon
but you won't stay here forever
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wont stay forever, but I think it will be enough time for when I quit, someone else will start maintaining itKarmine wrote:
Yeah I wasn't sure about that but anyway 5 pages seems reasonable to mePatatitta wrote:
I dont know if I clarified it correctly, you dont need to do the 5 pages on the 4 month timespan, if you only post 3 pages on the first 4 months, but then you stay in OT more time and post another 2 pages, even if it took you longer, that would count and you would be included into eras
about maintaining the thread, I think I will keep playing osu and browsing OT for at least a couple more years, I dont see myself quitting soon, so yeah, I think I might be able to maintain it for at least a couple years
You probably wouldn't make this thread if you planned on quitting soon
Hope it's true, but high effort threads have a history of not lasting long or dying when their creator stopsPatatitta wrote:
Karmine wrote:
Yeah I wasn't sure about that but anyway 5 pages seems reasonable to mePatatitta wrote:
I dont know if I clarified it correctly, you dont need to do the 5 pages on the 4 month timespan, if you only post 3 pages on the first 4 months, but then you stay in OT more time and post another 2 pages, even if it took you longer, that would count and you would be included into eras
about maintaining the thread, I think I will keep playing osu and browsing OT for at least a couple more years, I dont see myself quitting soon, so yeah, I think I might be able to maintain it for at least a couple years
You probably wouldn't make this thread if you planned on quitting soon
wont stay forever, but I think it will be enough time for when I quit, someone else will start maintaining it
Well, cool idea actually, I dislike the current system as well but I have no idea how to get rid of it lmao.
ALSO HIIIII MEEEEEAAAAAAH CHAAAAAAAAN.
ALSO HIIIII MEEEEEAAAAAAH CHAAAAAAAAN.
Thanks for reminding me denizenship exist
too long; don't read.
basically its denizenship but you qualify when you meet the requirements of at least 5 pages of posts on off topic and has been active for 4 months or more, each era ends every year the thread gets edited to include all users that qualify, however the year you start is the era you will be placed inJangsoodlor wrote:
too long; don't read.
this thread feels unnecessarily long for the simple but more straightforward fix
I think 4months are way too low, should be 6 months
Honestly I was skeptical at first, but now I support this.
Also, omg, Meah!
Also, omg, Meah!
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it's long because I have to explain why the currenty denizen system fails, in order to be able to justify mineKaaruumii wrote:
basically its denizenship but you qualify when you meet the requirements of at least 5 pages of posts on off topic and has been active for 4 months or more, each era ends every year the thread gets edited to include all users that qualify, however the year you start is the era you will be placed inJangsoodlor wrote:
too long; don't read.
this thread feels unnecessarily long for the simple but more straightforward fix
The worst part of me eventually fading into OT's history is that I have no hope that denizens would record threads like these into some chronicle equivalent compilation of OT's history. Effectively Eras after me would be come as ??? as the Valhalla era given enough time.
Was there someone working on archiving OT before you? Not like there can't be another recordkeeper in the future.abraker wrote:
The worst part of me eventually fading into OT's history is that I have no hope that denizens would record threads like these into some chronicle equivalent compilation of OT's history. Effectively Eras after me would be come as ??? as the Valhalla era given enough time.
Nope, I am the first archiver and spend many hours going through pages attempting to reconstructing the history. There still remains a good 50 pages or so between 2013 - 2010 I have yet to browse through.Kobold84 wrote:
Was there someone working on archiving OT before you? Not like there can't be another recordkeeper in the future.abraker wrote:
The worst part of me eventually fading into OT's history is that I have no hope that denizens would record threads like these into some chronicle equivalent compilation of OT's history. Effectively Eras after me would be come as ??? as the Valhalla era given enough time.
sorry i cant read
It's very important