-Remi wrote:

Even though I partially agree with you, if you come to OT and expect quality, you only have yourself to blame. I'm not saying this as a joke, I mean it. OT is the last place I come to for entertainment, if the quality is suddenly lacking or I'm not having as much fun, it's as simple as not interacting, or interacting half-assedly. It's really not much to ponder over. OT will be OT, and there will be periods of quality spikes, and decline.

I also do think OT is not doing too bad at the moment, we've got the Compliment showdown coming up (even though you personally deny the success of the thread, it's always worth a shot), we have the Tournament of Power, and a Talent Show.

However, I would like to throw an opinion out there, and it's going to be both a controversial and unreasonable one:

I'm all for ABOLISHING threads which update daily, such as the "I will change this title every-day" and TierLists thread. Despite those threads being very successful and somewhat fun threads, I feel like it's pulling in too much traffic. Especially the TierLists thread, which I believe will tire out eventually. I have nothing against the posters nor the concept, but I rarely like to interact with these threads myself, and I much prefer looking at new threads.

OT would be more 'fun' if we let these things die, or change the frequency of the thread updates. The posters of these threads have what it takes to produce quality, but having to manage a thread daily isn't really that great.

It forces someone to think of a thread title or idea every single day, as opposed to letting them use that creativity across multiple days to produce something worthwhile. It also just looks like another mediocre thread on the forum. Once again, I apologise if it hurts any feelings, but that's my true opinion on the matter.

Of course, that's only if I really cared about the Quality of OT to the extent that the people in this thread seem to. It's not something I think about, nor care about, that often.

If you'd like me to elaborate further, I can, but don't expect me to present you with too much facts and logic, it's mostly a personal opinion.

Also, you need personal threads here and there to offset all the good threads. Having such quality on so many threads will push our expectations too high.

Achromalia wrote:

-Remi wrote:

Even though I partially agree with you, if you come to OT and expect quality, you only have yourself to blame. I'm not saying this as a joke, I mean it. OT is the last place I come to for entertainment, if the quality is suddenly lacking or I'm not having as much fun, it's as simple as not interacting, or interacting half-assedly. It's really not much to ponder over. OT will be OT, and there will be periods of quality spikes, and decline.

I also do think OT is not doing too bad at the moment, we've got the Compliment showdown coming up (even though you personally deny the success of the thread, it's always worth a shot), we have the Tournament of Power, and a Talent Show.

However, I would like to throw an opinion out there, and it's going to be both a controversial and unreasonable one:

I'm all for ABOLISHING threads which update daily, such as the "I will change this title every-day" and TierLists thread. Despite those threads being very successful and somewhat fun threads, I feel like it's pulling in too much traffic. Especially the TierLists thread, which I believe will tire out eventually. I have nothing against the posters nor the concept, but I rarely like to interact with these threads myself, and I much prefer looking at new threads.

OT would be more 'fun' if we let these things die, or change the frequency of the thread updates. The posters of these threads have what it takes to produce quality, but having to manage a thread daily isn't really that great.

It forces someone to think of a thread title or idea every single day, as opposed to letting them use that creativity across multiple days to produce something worthwhile. It also just looks like another mediocre thread on the forum. Once again, I apologise if it hurts any feelings, but that's my true opinion on the matter.

Of course, that's only if I really cared about the Quality of OT to the extent that the people in this thread seem to. It's not something I think about, nor care about, that often.

If you'd like me to elaborate further, I can, but don't expect me to present you with too much facts and logic, it's mostly a personal opinion.

Also, you need personal threads here and there to offset all the good threads. Having such quality on so many threads will push our expectations too high.

this and op with ghoulybits are pretty reasonable perspectives, as much as i partially fail to share them.

in my experience, quality is bound to remain finnicky, and low and high quality threads will continue to have their merit in flux. i appreciate this arc, even though i also sense the absence of lore starting to sink in, and with other thread types forming their own precedent, it's hard to expect the effort usually seen in the early post-ot!pression era underneath the shitposting. we really had a fun narrative going on, with its own geopolitical intraforum context, and that's been lost in time.

that said, abolition won't solve this. historically, we've taken some approaches toward curbing undesirable types of thread expression and found that it came with limited positive effect, unless we tied it in with the lore at the time as a canonical infighting type of deal. expectation was another thing i seem to vaguely recall being discussed at the time too, where we were trying to figure out where to go with post quality and how far to take our effort lore and all.

we typically work best by nurturing and cultivating the things we're looking for. it's a little obvious, but it's particularly organic and freeing and allows for emergent properties just through giving the chance for change by building that precedent yourself.

all in all, can't really fault people much from my perspective. roleplay is ever-changing and its presence shifts with the nature and existing disposition of its forum-dwellers, and i think the mourning of that quality is in itself a faintly positive signal for its return should someone choose to engage in it

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Manishh wrote:

I disagree, if you feel like that threads are trash then make a good one yourself. You cant expect someone to make a good thread just because you want quality. Thats stupid. If you want quality post then go in GD. Thats the place where you find Good topics to talk about and what do you think is a Quality thread which is suitable for Off-topic? You cant make shops everyday or padoru lore everyday. Even a lore get boring if stretched it out for long time.

Its same as, "OT! is dead". Which not gonna help

-Remi wrote:

Manishh wrote:

I disagree, if you feel like that threads are trash then make a good one yourself. You cant expect someone to make a good thread just because you want quality. Thats stupid. If you want quality post then go in GD. Thats the place where you find Good topics to talk about and what do you think is a Quality thread which is suitable for Off-topic? You cant make shops everyday or padoru lore everyday. Even a lore get boring if stretched it out for long time.

Its same as, "OT! is dead". Which not gonna help

GD is dead.

To be completely honest, if we go by the engagement here, this thread is of better quality than the other recent threads.

But that begs the old question from the Denizenship Drama:

What is Quality?

Scyla wrote:

srsly tho, are ppl afraid to make threads cause they fear their threads will flop?

ghoulybits wrote:

Telling someone to post in GD should be considered a felony

Patatitta wrote:

Scyla wrote:

srsly tho, are ppl afraid to make threads cause they fear their threads will flop?

all of my threads flop and I keep making them so

Patatitta wrote:

Scyla wrote:

srsly tho, are ppl afraid to make threads cause they fear their threads will flop?

all of my threads flop and I keep making them so

Scyla wrote:

floppy than flappy bird

Kaaruumii wrote:

Scyla wrote:

floppy than flappy bird

floppy penis

Manishh wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Scyla wrote:

srsly tho, are ppl afraid to make threads cause they fear their threads will flop?

all of my threads flop and I keep making them so

when the last time you made a thread?

Scyla wrote:

srsly tho, are ppl afraid to make threads cause they fear their threads will flop?

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

ayy its the annual "complain about tha state of ot" and i fucking back it this year around.

Stomiks wrote:

Scyla wrote:

srsly tho, are ppl afraid to make threads cause they fear their threads will flop?

I'm not afraid because all of my threads go well

-Remi wrote:

ghoulybits wrote:

Telling someone to post in GD should be considered a felony

I don't understand why it exists, actually.

Kaaruumii wrote:

Scyla wrote:

floppy than flappy bird

floppy penis

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

About the repetitive threads such as the ones with title changes every day, I think they should be keep as it avoid flooding mediocre and uninteresting threads by putting them all together into a single thread.

It's January 2nd
Sowwy
Awooooooooooooooo
Stop posting about Among Us
Sebastian says hello
(Taken from Sebastians Title Change Thread)

IF YOU DONT REPLY TO THIS THREAD A SPOOKY SKELETON WILL EAT YOUR CORPSE
This is a safe space for all LGBTQ+ people
I'mma go take a shower, be back in a bit
Apples are good
guys what is the world cup
this is a title change
the grand edict: rules of Off-Topic (read before posting)
(Taken from dPeace's title change thread)

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

I'm okay with the current state of OT right now. You have hi effort threads and events such as the OT! got talent, the OT! map collab, or even the Tier List thread. For me it shows some quality in OT.

About the repetitive threads such as the ones with title changes every day, I think they should be keep as it avoid flooding mediocre and uninteresting threads by putting them all together into a single thread.

-Remi wrote:

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

About the repetitive threads such as the ones with title changes every day, I think they should be keep as it avoid flooding mediocre and uninteresting threads by putting them all together into a single thread.

But it fills a space with mediocrity anyway.
If it didn't exist, nobody would be motivated with making a thread with mediocre concepts such as:

It's January 2nd
Sowwy
Awooooooooooooooo
Stop posting about Among Us
Sebastian says hello
(Taken from Sebastians Title Change Thread)

IF YOU DONT REPLY TO THIS THREAD A SPOOKY SKELETON WILL EAT YOUR CORPSE
This is a safe space for all LGBTQ+ people
I'mma go take a shower, be back in a bit
Apples are good
guys what is the world cup
this is a title change
the grand edict: rules of Off-Topic (read before posting)
(Taken from dPeace's title change thread)

Before you guys yell at me for writing a hit piece, I'll just clarify that I understand why these thread titles are so half assed. The whole concept of the thread is "Quick! Think of an Idea every single day!". I know they might enjoy keeping the thread up, but it doesn't change the following fact:

You wouldn't want to make a thread like this in the first place, if daily title change threads did not exist, these wouldn't even be on the site.

These threads could be great, but the frequency that a title change is required, devolves it to the point where one of the titles ends up being "this is a title change!!!".
Want proof that a longer frequency would benefit these threads? Look at Keremaru's take on it. Whether intentional or not, it's not as actively changed as these 2 are. The topics he brings up are detailed and usually somewhat interesting, and is slightly more meaningful to interact with.

It's not a crime to make a mediocre thread, alot of my threads are mediocre, but having a large thread filled with them doesn't solve any issues. If it did, this thread complaining about OT's state wouldn't exist.

A note to dPeace and Sebastian

I'm not against your threads, nor am I against you. If what I've said offends you in anyway, then I truly apologise. I still think you both are creative people, and I still respect the both of you on this platform.

Patatitta wrote:

not every ot thread will please everyone, I personally enjoy the title changing threads, if there are still threads that you enjoy, just post in those and not the ones you dislike, I believe that is the best mindset to have

Karmine wrote:

Lore and RP doesn't seem as important to newer dwellers as it is to boomers older denizens but it's fine by me. It can be fun but having it all over OT would suffocate non-lore threads and make it harder for new people to fit in.