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Kaito-kun

Protastic101 wrote:

Kaito-kun wrote:

(this arrows look like the acne in ur face :^) I'm definitely getting shot for this comment)
htweiouherv;iherg YOU KNOW IM INSECURE ABOUT THAT <3

tfw still wont mod my maps tho
[jbd]
00:09:618 (9618|0,9768|0,9918|1,10068|1) - tfw uneven stack. I'd move the second one to the right hand like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8652862 U nitpicky fuk :v

00:45:243 (45243|2,45318|3,45393|2) - I'd invert the minitrill here to avoid the three note stack at 00:45:093 (45093|2,45243|2,45393|2) - , so the minitrill goes 4-3-4 instead of 3-4-3
00:45:543 (45543|3) - If above is accepted, move this to col 3 and then all the single note stacks should be 2 notes max inb4 created 10 note stack
> Inb4 creates 10 note stacks......another one? :^)
Anyways, changed the pattern with what you said in mind, should be better


01:37:368 (97368|1,97518|1,97668|1) - tfw brogamer stack But. But. Spy-sama is our lord and savior D:

01:54:318 (114318|1,114468|1,114618|1,114618|2,114768|2,114918|2) - delet this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8652885 . Keeps the stacks down to two notes max I'm seriously mapping Get On after this, so that nobody can oppress my stacks D^:< (Changed pattern to a non-stackfest)

02:12:843 (132843|1,132918|0,132993|1) - i cri because i cant play it but it looks nice Rejected to make you git gud :^)

02:20:568 (140568|3,140643|2,140718|3) - Might wanna throw this minitrill onto the other hand cause 02:20:118 (140118|3,140193|2,140268|3) - was literally half a second ago. People oppressing my right handed patterns when left hand should be the one oppressed >:^(

03:14:418 (194418|2,194418|1) - Make this [12] so that I dont feel inclined to release 03:14:118 (194118|3) - a beat early aaaa *rage* AKA, what you did while testing the map :^)

03:34:518 (214518|2,214818|2,215118|2,215418|2,215718|2,216018|2,216318|2,216618|2,216918|2) - Not sure if I should be nitpicking this stack since I know it'd be a pain in the ass to rearrange and avoid other stacks as long as this. Tbh, you could just use stacked notes but that's asking too much. It plays fine so you dont need to worry too much about it. That's 1/1 stacks, so it should be ok (and it's practcally what my Streaming Heart map is all about :^) )

04:08:343 (248343|2) - Should make this a jump /s TRIGGERED


[Extra]
http://puu.sh/wPYyU.jpg Im starting to learn to check aimod AiMod should just insta-rank my map smh (That explains the random shitmisses I had while playing the map)

00:13:893 (13893|1,13968|2,14118|2,14193|1,14343|1,14418|2,14568|2,14643|1,14793|1,14868|2) - Oh, that's cool. I never noticed this lol. Trying to go with a somewhat repetitive-looking pattern for the static, since you know, S T A T I C :^)

00:38:568 (38568|0,38643|1,38718|2,38793|0,38868|2,38943|1,39018|0) - that's some nice symmetry and I'd be fine with it if it weren't for the OH minitrill at 00:38:943 (38943|1,39018|0,39093|1) - making me want to kms :c Might control H 00:39:093 (39093|1,39168|2) - instead to create a mirrored pattern of the one I highlighted. Then pls die after you insta-rank my map pls k thx bby <3

01:40:818 (100818|1,100968|1,101118|1) - :enjry: You can easily just reduce this stack to two notes instead D:< I'll reduce ur existence to 2 kds :^)

01:58:593 (118593|3,118668|2,118743|1,118818|0,118818|3,118893|1,118968|2,119043|3) - stuff like this makes me want to kms inb4 turns the entire jumpstream into this You really hate the 2-1-2 mini trill, rite? :^)

03:39:318 (219318|2) - Dunno why you'd stack this with the jump at 03:39:618 (219618|0,219618|2) - :veryhardthenk: Dunno why you so nitpicky >:^( :zenthink:

04:08:418 - tfw no triple at the end like jbd diff :c Would create a 3-4-3 trill at the very end that would be unexpected considering it would be the first time I do it in the diff (first time, at the very last note, way to trigger the player :^) )


[Hard]
00:08:268 (8268|2) - might stack this with 00:08:418 (8418|3) - if you dont wanna make it a jump to represent the kick. Did that, and stacked some other patterns to avoid making that stack lonely :^)

01:27:918 (87918|0,88218|0,88518|0,88818|0,89118|0) - 01:30:018 (90018|1,90318|1,90618|1,90918|1,91218|1,91518|1) - 01:32:418 (92418|1,92718|1,93018|1,93318|1,93618|1,93918|1) - 01:49:068 (109068|0,109218|1,109218|3,109368|2,109518|1,109518|3,109668|0) - 01:36:018 (96018|1,96318|1,96618|1,96918|1,97218|1) - fam pls DON'T OPPRESS MY STACKS FFS ASLKDFJHALSKFJ

01:49:068 (109068|0,109218|1,109218|3,109368|2,109518|1,109518|3,109668|0) - You always find a new pattern to use in your map that I never thought about but hate immediately after seeing it for the first time. Well, triggering you is what makes my days tbh :^)

02:08:118 - I do think it'd be good to make this a jump just so the 2/1 snares in this measure are consistently mapped as jumps. The way it is now, you give a bit more emphasis to the first snare by making it a jump, but little emphasis to the second as it just blends in with the other notes around it :c
02:12:918 - Similar thing here too maybe, but with kicks in the measure! Would somewhat break the flow when I add it, so I'll keep it as it is (until we get on the VC and fite it out 1v1)

02:42:318 (162318|0) - Make this a 1/1 LN for the 1/4 snare roll? Then you can just remove 02:42:468 (162468|3) - and the flow would still be good as the unusual 1/1 gap in the 1/2 stream is bridged with an LN Not too shaby, unlike u :^)

03:30:768 (210768|2,210918|1,210918|3,211068|0,211218|3,211218|1,211368|2) - 03:31:668 (211668|3,211818|2,211818|0,211968|1,212118|0,212118|2,212268|3) - You did this to spite me didnt you God darn it, she noticed them :^(


[Normal]
00:38:118 - Could technically do an overlap with the LN at 00:37:818 (37818|3) - for that gun cock sound. Would be something similar to this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8653138 Ignore that accidental jump in [23], I didnt check my layering lol BN not checking his own layering :thenkeng:. Where is the Strike Navy when you need them? :^)

00:55:518 (55518|3,55818|2,56718|0,57018|1) - I think it'd be nice to overlap these LNs cause they're the type of sound, and it'd differentiate it from the sound at 00:55:218 (55218|0,56118|1,56418|3) - U should know that this is a Normal, rite? :^). What I did was make sure the LNs representing the static (?) sound are aisolated, while the other are one next to the other

02:08:118 (128118|1) - I would move this to col 3 so that it's stacked with 02:07:518 (127518|2) - for the snare Nitpicky fuk :v

03:06:018 - So apparently when I told you to add those 1/1 LNs in the esay diff, I forgot that they aren't even present in the normal diff :^D So uh, I'd move those LNs into the normal diff and keep the easy as 2/1 Pls don't be present in this world :^)

03:10:218 (190218|3,190218|2) - tfw this is a random double just existing I just wanted that single to have company, u hater :^(

03:22:968 (202968|1,203118|2,203268|1,203418|0,203568|3,203718|1,203868|2,204018|1,204168|0,204318|3) - stop copy pasta-ing your patterns one after the other :< Ctrl+A Protastic101, Delet


[Easy]
00:38:118 (38118|1,38418|3) - I'd flip columns here so that there's one LN on each hand. I'm never asking you for help again, you always oppress my hand oppression :^( cri in a corner

01:14:418 - tfw said add a note on the upbeat after this, not add a note on the upbeat after this and remove the note here. That's just putting the problem in a different place cause my original deal was with the 3/2 lmao Don't really find it ok solving the 3/2 problem with a 1/2 note when the map is mostly 1/1 except for some few sections where the crash is emphasized. Also, the start is mostly 3/2 timing so it should be less problematic to deal with than a 1/2 note

01:18:018 - Here, I'd try using a bit more 1/2 to properly map the drum line cause it's kind of confusing now since you sometimes map the kick, and sometimes map the snare. I'd just take the rhythm used in the normal here but make it with singles only instead or smth. Don't really see the confusing part, it's a basic 1/1 3-note stair most of the time, maybe we can talk this later (? (and 1v1 mi m8, I'll 200BPM yo ass)

01:39:618 (99618|0) - Instead of one long LN, I think it might be better to just take some 1/1 and stack them with each other in pairs. Pairs? Why have pairs when you have a 4-some? :^) shot af

03:06:018 - see my fuck up in normal I'm seriously calling the Strike Navy after this :^)

03:20:418 - I dunno if I mentioned this for any other diff, but there's a crash here so a jump would be nice =w=)b No you didn't :D. Had to check every single diff because u are a retarded half-loli rainbow fuk D^:<

03:25:668 - Might add a note in col 4 here for the kick Sure

03:39:318 (219318|2) - I would remove this note as it blends in with the rest of the chart and removes the sense of emptiness that the music gives in these two beats of near silence. So, I'm representing ur emptiness inside? :^)
Antalf, pls check these timestamps in case you didn't know there were crashes in these places:
03:20:418 -
01:07:218 -
01:12:018 -
(Just to make sure :v)
Antalf

Protastic101 wrote:

Kaito-kun wrote:

(this arrows look like the acne in ur face :^) I'm definitely getting shot for this comment)
htweiouherv;iherg YOU KNOW IM INSECURE ABOUT THAT youre insecure even about if its safe to breathe

tfw still wont mod my maps tho
[jbd]

[Antalf's Insane]
00:37:218 - make this a double pls cause it's a kick here along with 00:37:518 (37518|1,37518|2) - That sound is as low as my spirit to rank something

00:52:743 (52743|2,52818|3,52893|2) - I missed because of this OH minitrill so I hope it dies. Wouldnt it be easier to say you suck playing :^)?

01:01:818 (61818|3,61818|2,61968|2,61968|3) - I'd make these jumps different so then your pattern would follow two beats - stacked, two beats - different, like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8653058 Arranged in another way instead

01:23:118 (83118|1,83118|0,83268|3,83268|2) - tfw stacked the majority of the snares but this one :thinking: STOP MAKING ME CHANGE STUFF AAAAA

01:24:768 (84768|1,84768|3,84918|2,84918|3) - 01:27:168 (87168|2,87168|1,87318|3,87318|2) - 01:30:768 (90768|0,90768|1,90918|1,90918|3) - make these chords complementary pls like you did in the rest of the section. I think it provides a cleaner visual cue for the 1/2 pause in the short 1/4 rolls. Stacking them with only one note makes it seem as if there's still 1/4 present, because you wouldn't be able to make complementary chords without using a jack in that case. ??????? i dont see the problem with it, plays just fine and its not confusing at all but ok, changed it.

01:56:718 (116718|1,116793|3,116868|1,116943|3,117018|1) - Why a random trill in the middle of the index stream? Sure, you've used a couple minitrills but not any 5 note long ones, or 4 note long ones for that matter. A side note too, why is this stream so much more chaotic and disconnected than the one at 00:38:418 - ? Why? because our lord and savior Taiko-nuk didnt want linear streams, so i did exactly that in the kiais.

02:17:718 - Could easily get away with adding a jump here for the snare too. something like this would make it linear and the hand movement different almost unnoticeable https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8653076 did that but with another approach that i find more suiting

Protastic101 wrote:

02:33:168 (153168|3,153318|3) - but why
???????????????????????????????
02:39:768 (159768|2,159918|2) - and now presenting to you: but why [2] - Electric Boogaloo die

03:15:618 - Feel like in the beginning of the stream, you rarely use col 4, feels like I've played a 3k + 1 map and col 4 is a poorly used scratch. Also, there are quite a few 4 note trills present in the stream, so there's that to think about too and whether or not it fits :thenkspace: re did the stream
Topic Starter
Kaito-kun
Updated with Antalf's mod reply and some metadata fix after talking about it with Prot
Protastic101
rerecheck

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[General]
  1. The normal-hitclap sounds too similar to the music and is cut very short, seeming as if it was taken straight from the music.
[Justice be Done]
00:26:418 (26418|1) - Move to 1. I notice that you never include the jump as part of your trill as evidenced by 00:01:218 (1218|1,1218|0) - 00:02:418 (2418|3,2418|0) - 00:03:618 (3618|3,3618|2) - 00:04:818 (4818|2,4818|0) - 00:06:018 (6018|0,6018|1) - and so on.

01:03:018 (63018|2,63018|1,63318|1,63318|2,63618|1,63618|2) - repetitive [14][23]

01:11:193 - 01:11:343 - Sounds like the stuff at 02:41:118 (161118|1,161193|2,161268|1,161343|2,161418|1) - here, so I might suggest adding notes on the 1/4 for it
01:11:793 - 01:11:943 - ^, though there's plenty of other places like this so it's more just a comment than anything

01:32:118 (92118|2,92118|1,92418|1,92418|2,92718|1,92718|2) - I would try to vary the [23] somehow so that it doesnt feel so repetitive

01:37:068 (97068|2,97368|1) - I'd switch these so that they stack after the hand and not before it as I believe that's easier to hit because reasons. poke me later i guess

01:46:518 (106518|1,106668|1,106818|0,106818|1,106968|0,107118|0) - three note stacks
01:58:218 (118218|0,118368|0,118518|0,118518|1,118668|1,118818|1) - 01:59:118 (119118|2,119268|2,119418|1,119418|2,119568|1,119718|1) - only pointed out the ones that were chained together or didnt really give enough recovery time to the player

01:53:418 (113418|2,113493|3,113568|2,113643|1,113718|2) - bit of a weird direction turn tbh. Most of the streams in this diff change directions through a disconnect rather than a stair like pattern

02:06:018 (126018|3,126168|3) - dont quite like the fact that this 1/2 mini stack is directly after a roll leading into the right hand. I'd put it into col 1 instead so that 02:05:868 (125868|1,125943|2,126018|3) - rolls away from it

02:08:418 (128418|2) - move to 4 so that the 2-3 trill has the same number in both columns (5 each)

02:19:068 - to 02:19:968 - a lot of the movement is put onto the left hand with very little on the right

02:54:918 (174918|1,175068|1,175218|1,176418|1,176568|1,176718|1) - 03:00:243 (180243|1,180393|1,180543|1,180618|0,180768|0,180918|0) - stacks
03:15:618 (195618|1,195768|1,195918|1,196068|1,196218|1) - ^
03:21:918 (201918|1,202068|1,202218|1,202368|2,202518|2,202668|2,202818|0,202968|0,203118|0) - 03:24:768 (204768|3,204918|3,205068|3,205218|3) -

03:19:818 (199818|0,199968|0,200118|0,200418|0,200568|0,200718|0) - kind of putting a lot of weight in col 1 tbh

03:33:618 (213618|2,213768|2,213918|3,213918|2,214068|3,214218|3,214218|0,214368|0,214518|0) - no real break between them

03:35:718 (215718|1,215718|2,216018|1,216018|2,216318|2,216318|1) - three of the same repeated jumps which puts far more weight on col 2 and 3 and barely any in 1 and 4

04:05:418 (245418|0,245568|0,245868|0,246018|0) - i'd make it so that the second mini stack in col 1 is on the right hand instead for a slightly more even weighting


[Extra]
00:42:468 (42468|0) - move this to col 3 so that you have a ministack in all four columns like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8668571

00:43:743 (43743|2,43818|3,43893|2,43968|1,44043|0,44118|2,44193|1,44268|0,44343|1,44418|2) - feels like trying to play spacetime stairs

01:48:843 (108843|2,108918|1,108993|2) - put the minitrill on the other hand so that the strain is pretty much even with 01:48:468 (108468|2,108543|3,108618|2) -

02:10:368 (130368|1,130518|1,130668|1) - stack. feels like there's no variation within these last two beats to show that the music has changed slightly and lost intensity

02:19:068 (139068|3,139143|2,139368|2,139443|3,139668|3,139743|2) - way too much movement on the right hand and very little anything on the left 02:19:218 (139218|0,139218|1,139518|1,139518|0,139818|0,139818|1) -

02:30:618 (150618|2,150768|3,150918|2,151068|3,151218|2,151368|3,151518|2) - trill

03:01:668 - to 03:03:093 - you've rarely held a single direction for this long

03:15:618 - to 03:17:793 - col 1 does very little

sorry, i cant do this, i need a break
Topic Starter
Kaito-kun

Protastic101 wrote:

rerecheck

...
[General]
  1. The normal-hitclap sounds too similar to the music and is cut very short, seeming as if it was taken straight from the music. Antalf will deal with it :^)
[Justice be Done]
00:26:418 (26418|1) - Move to 1. I notice that you never include the jump as part of your trill as evidenced by 00:01:218 (1218|1,1218|0) - 00:02:418 (2418|3,2418|0) - 00:03:618 (3618|3,3618|2) - 00:04:818 (4818|2,4818|0) - 00:06:018 (6018|0,6018|1) - and so on. Fair enough

01:03:018 (63018|2,63018|1,63318|1,63318|2,63618|1,63618|2) - repetitive [14][23] As repetitive as my memes :^)

01:11:193 - 01:11:343 - Sounds like the stuff at 02:41:118 (161118|1,161193|2,161268|1,161343|2,161418|1) - here, so I might suggest adding notes on the 1/4 for it
01:11:793 - 01:11:943 - ^, though there's plenty of other places like this so it's more just a comment than anything I intentionally ignored those sounds on this section, even tho on the other LN section near the 2nd kiai, I did map it

01:32:118 (92118|2,92118|1,92418|1,92418|2,92718|1,92718|2) - I would try to vary the [23] somehow so that it doesnt feel so repetitive It's gonna be the same way no matter where I put the double, unless I do a 1/1 stack, which I don't really think would be good here

01:37:068 (97068|2,97368|1) - I'd switch these so that they stack after the hand and not before it as I believe that's easier to hit because reasons. poke me later i guess Don't really find it different, but because it's no different, it doesn't hurt to apply it I guess

01:46:518 (106518|1,106668|1,106818|0,106818|1,106968|0,107118|0) - three note stacks
01:58:218 (118218|0,118368|0,118518|0,118518|1,118668|1,118818|1) - 01:59:118 (119118|2,119268|2,119418|1,119418|2,119568|1,119718|1) - only pointed out the ones that were chained together or didnt really give enough recovery time to the player Mostly fixed them

01:53:418 (113418|2,113493|3,113568|2,113643|1,113718|2) - bit of a weird direction turn tbh. Most of the streams in this diff change directions through a disconnect rather than a stair like pattern Can I change Insane's mapper with a directional turn? :^)

02:06:018 (126018|3,126168|3) - dont quite like the fact that this 1/2 mini stack is directly after a roll leading into the right hand. I'd put it into col 1 instead so that 02:05:868 (125868|1,125943|2,126018|3) - rolls away from it Removed the stack

02:08:418 (128418|2) - move to 4 so that the 2-3 trill has the same number in both columns (5 each) If there are 5 notes on each column, which it make Insane's mapper dissapear?

02:19:068 - to 02:19:968 - a lot of the movement is put onto the left hand with very little on the right You don't understand, do you?
I try to represent the right hand as the Monarchy and the left hand as the Slaves :^)


02:54:918 (174918|1,175068|1,175218|1,176418|1,176568|1,176718|1) - 03:00:243 (180243|1,180393|1,180543|1,180618|0,180768|0,180918|0) - stacks
03:15:618 (195618|1,195768|1,195918|1,196068|1,196218|1) - ^
03:21:918 (201918|1,202068|1,202218|1,202368|2,202518|2,202668|2,202818|0,202968|0,203118|0) - 03:24:768 (204768|3,204918|3,205068|3,205218|3) - Imma call the Stack Police and tell them u r oppressing my childs :^( cri

03:19:818 (199818|0,199968|0,200118|0,200418|0,200568|0,200718|0) - kind of putting a lot of weight in col 1 tbh That's because on the monarchy system I'm representing, I'm going with the col 1 being the slaves that tried to escape and are being punished :^)

03:33:618 (213618|2,213768|2,213918|3,213918|2,214068|3,214218|3,214218|0,214368|0,214518|0) - no real break between them My future ;-;

03:35:718 (215718|1,215718|2,216018|1,216018|2,216318|2,216318|1) - three of the same repeated jumps which puts far more weight on col 2 and 3 and barely any in 1 and 4 Trying to give a break to col 1 in this section, I mean, I'm representing slavery, but they need sleep or else they'll die :(

04:05:418 (245418|0,245568|0,245868|0,246018|0) - i'd make it so that the second mini stack in col 1 is on the right hand instead for a slightly more even weighting Don't see any other way to make it without making things worse :D


[Extra]
00:42:468 (42468|0) - move this to col 3 so that you have a ministack in all four columns like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8668571 True,
rulers also have work


00:43:743 (43743|2,43818|3,43893|2,43968|1,44043|0,44118|2,44193|1,44268|0,44343|1,44418|2) - feels like trying to play spacetime stairs S P A C E T I E M

01:48:843 (108843|2,108918|1,108993|2) - put the minitrill on the other hand so that the strain is pretty much even with 01:48:468 (108468|2,108543|3,108618|2) - No

02:10:368 (130368|1,130518|1,130668|1) - stack. feels like there's no variation within these last two beats to show that the music has changed slightly and lost intensity Fixed

02:19:068 (139068|3,139143|2,139368|2,139443|3,139668|3,139743|2) - way too much movement on the right hand and very little anything on the left 02:19:218 (139218|0,139218|1,139518|1,139518|0,139818|0,139818|1) - That was representing the slavery going in arms against the Kings, but it makes more sense to have them balanced :^)

02:30:618 (150618|2,150768|3,150918|2,151068|3,151218|2,151368|3,151518|2) - trill Fixll

03:01:668 - to 03:03:093 - you've rarely held a single direction for this long #NeverForget7SuccessiveRolls

03:15:618 - to 03:17:793 - col 1 does very little Was trying to represent my existence in life :^)
Protastic101
"Hell-Blind - Handstreams' Fall" - Kaito

hitsound check from a few nights ago
2017-07-23 00:11 Protastic101: 02:08:118 -
2017-07-23 00:12 Protastic101: 02:07:668 (127668|0,127668|1) - delet dis dubble
2017-07-23 00:12 Protastic101: 02:12:918 - wai u deny dis
2017-07-23 00:14 Protastic101: 02:07:668 (127668|0,127668|1) -
2017-07-23 00:15 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8661039
2017-07-23 00:16 Protastic101: 02:12:918 -
2017-07-23 00:18 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8661054
2017-07-23 00:19 Kaito-kun: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8661056
2017-07-23 00:20 Kaito-kun: https://puu.sh/wQKnn/de5a546973.jpg
2017-07-23 00:20 Protastic101: 02:10:518 -
2017-07-23 00:27 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1288486 Helblinde - Heaven's Fall [Normal]]
2017-07-23 00:27 Protastic101: 00:55:518 - 00:55:518 -
2017-07-23 00:27 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8661088
2017-07-23 00:32 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1288485 Helblinde - Heaven's Fall [Easy]]
2017-07-23 00:38 Protastic101: 01:40:818 - donde esta mi crash
2017-07-23 00:38 Protastic101: gracias
2017-07-23 00:38 Protastic101: ACTION taco away
2017-07-23 00:53 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1148154 Helblinde - Heaven's Fall [Justice be Done]]
2017-07-23 00:53 Protastic101: 00:06:018 (6018|0) - should this be a whistle?
2017-07-23 00:53 Protastic101: 00:06:468 (6468|2,6618|3) - and these too
2017-07-23 00:56 Protastic101: -00:19:518 (19518|3) - missing c
2017-07-23 00:56 Protastic101: 00:20:418 (20418|0) - missing w
2017-07-23 00:56 Protastic101: 00:20:718 (20718|3,21168|2) - missing c
2017-07-23 00:56 Kaito-kun: 00:19:968 (19968|0) -
2017-07-23 00:56 Protastic101: 00:19:518 (19518|3,19968|0) -
2017-07-23 01:07 Protastic101: 03:10:818 (190818|3) -
2017-07-23 01:09 Protastic101: 03:10:818 - same sound as the f at 03:15:618 -
2017-07-23 01:16 Protastic101: 00:38:418 -
2017-07-23 01:21 Protastic101: 02:17:493 (137493|1) - whistle? Sounds like a 1/4 kick there but you dont map it later on at 03:10:293 - , so I dont think it's too important to note
2017-07-23 01:21 Protastic101: 02:18:018 (138018|1) - missing f
2017-07-23 01:25 Kaito-kun: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8661365
2017-07-23 01:28 Protastic101: 02:19:968 (139968|1,140043|2,140118|3,140193|2,140268|1) - pls die
2017-07-23 01:28 Protastic101: 02:24:318 (144318|3) - clap
2017-07-23 01:29 Kaito-kun: 02:26:118 (146118|2,146118|1) -
2017-07-23 01:29 Protastic101: 02:29:418 (149418|1,149418|2) - ^
2017-07-23 01:29 Kaito-kun: 02:29:118 (149118|1) -
2017-07-23 01:29 Protastic101: 02:32:418 (152418|2) - missing w
2017-07-23 01:30 Protastic101: 02:41:118 (161118|2) - missing w
2017-07-23 01:30 Protastic101: 02:41:718 (161718|0) - missing c
2017-07-23 01:34 Protastic101: 04:04:368 - think you're missing a double here cause 04:05:568 (245568|0,245568|3,245718|1,245718|2) - is kick-snare too and they use complementary chords
2017-07-23 01:35 Protastic101: 04:07:068 (247068|3,247218|3,247368|3) -
2017-07-23 01:35 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1266410 Helblinde - Heaven's Fall [Antalf's Insane]]
2017-07-23 01:40 Protastic101: 00:38:418 - 00:38:418 -
2017-07-23 01:40 Protastic101: 00:38:718 (38718|0,39318|0,39918|1,40518|2,41118|2,41718|3,42318|2) - you need to add whistles here
2017-07-23 01:45 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1288486 Helblinde - Heaven's Fall [Normal]]
2017-07-23 01:45 Protastic101: 00:38:718 (38718|1,39318|2,39918|1,40518|2,41118|3,41718|0,42318|3,43518|0,44118|1,44718|1,45318|0,45918|0,46518|1,47718|0,48318|1,48918|3,49518|1,50118|3,50718|1,51318|3,53118|1,53718|3,54318|1,54918|2) - w
2017-07-23 01:45 Protastic101: 00:47:118 (47118|1) - every difficulty, missing clap
2017-07-23 01:48 Protastic101: 01:42:318 (102318|1,102918|2,103518|1,104118|3,104718|1,105318|3,105918|0,106518|2,107118|0,107718|2,108318|2,108918|0,109518|3,110118|1,110718|3,111318|1,111918|1,112518|2) -
2017-07-23 01:49 Protastic101: 01:53:118 (113118|3,113718|0,114318|2,114918|0,115518|0,116118|2,116718|0,117318|2,117918|3,118518|0,119118|3,119718|3,120318|1,120918|2) - w
2017-07-23 01:50 Protastic101: 02:07:518 (127518|2,128118|2) -
2017-07-23 01:52 Protastic101: 02:23:118 (143118|2,143718|3,144318|3,144918|3,145518|3,146118|2,146718|3,147318|3,147918|0,148518|1,149118|1,149718|3,150318|3,150918|2,151518|3,152118|1,152718|2,153318|1,153918|0,154518|2,155118|2,155718|0,156318|2,156918|2,157518|1,158118|1,158718|2,159318|3,159918|0,160518|2,161118|1,161718|0,171918|0,172518|0,173118|2,173718|3,174318|0,174918|2,175518|1,176118|2,176718|0,177318|3,177918|1,178518|2,179118|3,179718|0,180318|2,180918|1,181518|2,182118|0,182718|1,183318|1,183918|2,184518|1,185118|2) -
2017-07-23 01:52 Protastic101: 03:06:018 (186018|2) - f
2017-07-23 01:53 Protastic101: 03:15:618 (195618|3) - ^
2017-07-23 01:55 Protastic101: 03:15:918 (195918|1,196518|3,197118|1,197718|0,198318|3,198918|2,199518|1,200118|0,200718|3,201318|2,201918|2,202518|0,203118|2,203718|1,204318|2,204918|1,210318|0,210918|2,211518|2,212118|3,212718|2,213318|0,215118|1,215718|0,216318|2,216918|2,217518|1,218118|0,218718|2,219918|2,220518|2,221118|3,221718|1,222318|2,222918|3,224718|3,225318|2,225918|2,226518|1,227118|1,227718|2,228318|1,229518|2,230118|0,230718|1,231318|3,231918|1,232518|1,233118|3,233718|0,234318|2,234918|2,235518|3,236118|3,236718|1,237318|2,239118|2,239718|2,240318|0,240918|1,241518|3,242118|2,242718|0,243318|0) -
2017-07-23 01:56 Protastic101: 03:33:918 (213918|2,214518|1,223518|1,224118|3) - missing c
2017-07-23 01:56 Kaito-kun: https://puu.sh/wQNiy/dc118931b5.jpg
2017-07-23 01:59 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1288485 Helblinde - Heaven's Fall [Easy]]
2017-07-23 02:00 Protastic101: 00:38:718 (38718|0,39318|1,39918|2,40518|2,41118|1,41718|3,42318|0,43518|3,44118|2,45918|1,46518|0,47718|3,48318|3,48918|1,49518|3,50118|1,50718|3,51318|0,53118|2,53718|3,54318|0,54918|2,78318|2,78918|0,79518|2,80718|1,81318|2,81918|3,82518|0,83118|1,83718|0,84318|2,84918|3,85518|1,85818|0,86118|3,86718|2,87318|0,87918|2,88518|1,89118|2,89718|0,90318|2) -
2017-07-23 02:02 Protastic101: 01:30:918 (90918|0,91518|2,92118|3,92718|0,93318|2,93918|1,94518|0,95118|2,95718|0,96318|2,102318|3,102918|0,103518|1,104118|3,104718|0,105318|3,105918|1,106518|3,107118|2,107718|1,108318|1,108918|2,109518|0,110118|2,110718|1,111318|0,111918|2,112518|2,113118|1,113718|1,114318|0,114918|2,115518|2,116118|3,116718|2,117318|0,117918|1,118518|3,119118|1,119718|2,120318|0,120918|2,127518|1,128118|0) -
2017-07-23 02:03 Protastic101: 02:17:418 (137418|2,137718|3,143118|0,143718|2,144318|1,144918|2,145518|1,146118|0,146718|2,147318|1,147918|1,148518|3,149118|1,149718|0,150318|2,150918|0,151518|2,152118|3,152718|1,153318|0,153918|2,154518|1,155118|3,155718|2,156318|3,156918|1,157518|2,158118|1,158718|0,159318|2,159918|0,160518|2,161118|0,161718|1) -
2017-07-23 02:04 Protastic101: 02:51:918 (171918|2,172518|0,173118|3,173718|1,174318|2,174918|3,175518|0,176118|2,176718|0,177318|2,177918|3,178518|1,179118|0,179718|3,180318|1,180918|2,181518|2,182118|0,182718|1,183318|2,183918|0,184518|1,185118|3) -
2017-07-23 02:04 Protastic101: 00:44:718 (44718|3,45318|1) - c
2017-07-23 02:04 Protastic101: 00:47:718 (47718|3) - w
2017-07-23 02:05 Protastic101: 00:55:218 (55218|3) - w
2017-07-23 02:05 Protastic101: w
2017-07-23 02:05 Protastic101: 01:37:518 (97518|0,97668|1,98268|3,98418|2,99168|1) -
2017-07-23 02:05 Protastic101: ^
2017-07-23 02:05 Protastic101: 02:01:518 (121518|1,121668|2) - w
2017-07-23 02:05 Protastic101: 02:03:318 (123318|3) - w
2017-07-23 02:05 Protastic101: 03:05:718 (185718|1) -
2017-07-23 02:05 Protastic101: c
2017-07-23 02:25 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1266410 Helblinde - Heaven's Fall [Antalf's Insane]]
2017-07-23 02:25 Protastic101: 00:55:218 (55218|3) - whistle
2017-07-23 02:34 Protastic101: 03:43:518 (223518|1,224118|3) - w
2017-07-23 02:35 Protastic101: 04:03:918 (243918|2) - ^
2017-07-23 02:36 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1269550 Helblinde - Heaven's Fall [Hard]]
2017-07-23 02:41 Protastic101: 00:55:218 (55218|0) - w
2017-07-23 02:43 Protastic101: 01:58:518 (118518|0,118818|0,119118|0,119418|0,119718|0) - reconsider ur existence and stacks pls
2017-07-23 02:44 Protastic101: 02:42:318 (162318|0) - n-hitc
2017-07-23 02:45 Protastic101: 03:16:818 (196818|2,197118|2,197418|2,197718|2) - :veryhardthenk:
2017-07-23 02:46 Protastic101: 03:21:168 (201168|1,201318|2,201318|0,201468|3,201618|0,201618|2,201768|1) - reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
2017-07-23 02:46 Protastic101: 03:50:118 (230118|3) - c
2017-07-23 02:47 Protastic101: 03:49:518 (229518|2,230718|1,231918|3,232518|0,234318|1,236718|1,239718|2,240318|0,240918|1,242118|2,242718|3,243318|1,243918|0) - w
2017-07-23 02:48 Protastic101: 03:49:218 -
2017-07-23 02:55 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1288486 Helblinde - Heaven's Fall [Normal]]
2017-07-23 02:55 Protastic101: 00:06:018 (6018|1) - w
2017-07-23 02:55 Protastic101: 00:06:618 (6618|0) - w
2017-07-23 02:57 Protastic101: 00:55:218 (55218|0) - add w
2017-07-23 02:57 Protastic101: 01:07:218 (67218|2) - w
2017-07-23 03:02 Protastic101: 01:51:168 (111168|2,111318|1,111468|2,111618|3,111768|2) - snek pattern pls no
2017-07-23 03:03 Protastic101: 02:18:018 (138018|3) - w
2017-07-23 03:04 Protastic101: 02:32:418 -
2017-07-23 03:04 Protastic101: 02:42:618 -
2017-07-23 03:07 Protastic101: 03:53:118 (233118|3,233718|0,234318|2,234918|2,235518|3,236118|3,236718|1,237318|2,239118|2,239718|2,240318|0,240918|1,241518|3,242118|2,242718|0,243318|0) - w
2017-07-23 03:07 Protastic101: 04:05:718 (245718|2) - c
2017-07-23 03:07 Protastic101: 04:06:918 (246918|1) - ^
2017-07-23 03:08 Protastic101: all diffs, 04:07:518 - 04:08:118 - add clap
2017-07-23 03:14 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1288485 Helblinde - Heaven's Fall [Easy]]
2017-07-23 03:19 Protastic101: 02:13:218 (133218|3) - f
2017-07-23 03:19 Protastic101: 02:17:418 (137418|2) - remove w
2017-07-23 03:20 Protastic101: 02:32:418 (152418|0) - w
2017-07-23 03:22 Protastic101: 03:06:018 (186018|3) - f
2017-07-23 03:22 Protastic101: 03:25:668 (205668|3) - w
2017-07-23 03:24 Protastic101: 03:30:318 (210318|0,210918|1,211518|0,212118|2,212718|3,213318|1,215118|1,215718|0,216318|2,216918|1,217518|2,218118|1,218718|3,219918|1,220518|0,221118|1,221718|2,222318|1,222918|3,224718|1,225318|0,225918|2,226518|3,227118|2,227718|1,228318|3,229518|1,230118|0,230718|3,231318|1,231918|0,232518|2,233118|3,233718|1,234318|2,234918|1,235518|1,236118|0,236718|2,237318|0,239118|0,239718|2,240318|1,240918|2,241518|0,242118|3,242718|2,243318|1,243918|3,244518|0,245118|1,246318|0) - you asshole
2017-07-23 03:24 Protastic101: 04:07:518 (247518|1,248118|2) - c
2017-07-23 03:25 Protastic101: 03:33:918 (213918|3,214518|2,223518|2,224118|3) - ^
2017-07-23 19:36 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1148154 Helblinde - Heaven's Fall [Justice be Done]]
2017-07-23 19:36 Protastic101: 00:07:068 (7068|3,7143|1,7218|0) - my fucking misses
2017-07-23 19:39 Protastic101: 00:51:318 (51318|2,51468|2,51618|2,51768|2) - four note stack ree
2017-07-23 19:39 Protastic101: 00:51:468 (51468|2) - move this to 1 instead? it'd create an OH trill tho :thinking:
2017-07-23 19:39 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8667971
2017-07-23 19:41 Protastic101: 01:00:318 (60318|0,60318|3,60468|0,60468|3) -
2017-07-23 19:42 Protastic101: 01:01:218 -
2017-07-23 19:43 Protastic101: 01:02:193 (62193|0,62343|3) -
2017-07-23 19:45 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8668002
2017-07-23 19:45 Kaito-kun: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8668005
2017-07-23 19:47 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8668021
2017-07-23 19:49 Protastic101: 01:23:493 (83493|0) - move to 4 because left hand biassss
2017-07-23 19:53 Protastic101: 01:39:018 (99018|2) - move to 1 pls
2017-07-23 19:54 Protastic101: 01:40:893 - 01:41:043 - 01:41:193 - 01:41:343 -
2017-07-23 19:55 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8668049 ?
2017-07-23 19:57 Protastic101: 01:49:218 (109218|1,109368|1,109518|1) - Think that's a bit unnecessary of a stack :thinking:
2017-07-23 19:57 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8668059 might try this instead, but you still have a three note stack in col 1 at the end /sad life
2017-07-23 20:00 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8668077
2017-07-23 20:03 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8668091 ?
2017-07-23 20:06 Protastic101: 01:58:218 (118218|0,118368|0,118518|1,118518|0,118668|1,118818|1,119118|2,119268|2,119418|1,119418|2,119568|1,119718|1) - chained three note stacks thx
2017-07-23 20:07 Protastic101: 02:01:368 (121368|2) - would move to 2 to put the stack after the emphasis rather than before
2017-07-23 20:07 Kaito-kun: would make a 4-note stack u fuk
2017-07-24 17:05 Protastic101: 02:08:043 -
2017-07-24 18:32 Protastic101: 01:00:318 (60318|0,60318|3,60468|3,60468|0) -
2017-07-24 18:33 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1148154 Helblinde - Heaven's Fall [Justice be Done]]
2017-07-24 18:41 Protastic101: 02:01:368 (121368|2) - would do the same thing I suggested at 01:37:068 - , so like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8675330
2017-07-24 18:42 Protastic101: 02:22:818 (142818|0,143118|0,143418|0,143718|0,144018|0,144318|0) - pls
2017-07-24 18:44 Protastic101: 02:30:318 - missing triple for the snare, and LN for the synth thingy
2017-07-24 18:44 Protastic101: ?
2017-07-24 18:48 Protastic101: 03:30:018 (210018|2,210168|2) -
2017-07-24 18:50 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8675384 ?
2017-07-24 18:52 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1217314 Helblinde - Heaven's Fall [Extra]]
2017-07-24 18:52 Protastic101: 00:13:743 (13743|1,13818|0,13893|1) - ultimate trigger
2017-07-24 18:53 Protastic101: 00:42:018 (42018|3,42093|1,42168|3,42243|1) - but why
2017-07-24 18:56 Protastic101: 01:46:368 (106368|1,106443|0,106518|1) - 1 like = 1 prayer
2017-07-24 18:58 Protastic101: 02:32:268 (152268|3,152418|3) - dont think you've used a stack so far in this 1/2 handstream yet, so it feels a bit out of place
2017-07-24 19:06 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1269550 Helblinde - Heaven's Fall [Hard]]
2017-07-24 19:30 Protastic101: u fuk
2017-07-24 19:34 Kaito-kun: u fuk :^)
2017-07-24 19:38 Protastic101: 02:32:418 -
2017-07-24 19:40 Protastic101: 03:35:868 (215868|2,216018|3,216018|1,216168|0,216318|3,216318|1,216468|2) - pls delet
2017-07-24 19:41 Protastic101: 03:46:818 (226818|3,226818|0,227118|3,227118|0) - stop repeating ur jumps pls
2017-07-24 19:42 Protastic101: 04:05:868 (245868|0,245868|2,246018|1,246018|3) - would be nice to stack these since the kicks are the same here, like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8675658
2017-07-24 20:04 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1288486 Helblinde - Heaven's Fall [Normal]]
2017-07-24 20:05 Protastic101: 00:28:218 (28218|3) - overlap these like at 00:55:518 (55518|2,55818|3,56718|0,57018|1) - ?
2017-07-24 20:08 Protastic101: 00:52:818 (52818|1,53118|1,53418|1) - three note stack pls
2017-07-24 20:09 Protastic101: 00:33:618 - could probably also vary this a bit
2017-07-24 20:10 Kaito-kun: fixed all
2017-07-24 20:10 Kaito-kun: except ur existence :^)
2017-07-24 20:14 Protastic101: 02:10:068 (130068|1,130518|1,130968|1) - kill dis
2017-07-24 20:14 Protastic101: 02:12:918 - to 02:15:918 - nice col 1 usage
2017-07-24 20:17 Kaito-kun: I told you I changed it u fuk :v
2017-07-24 20:22 Protastic101: :c
2017-07-24 20:25 Protastic101: 03:07:518 - add an LN here for the synth thingy? :thinking:
2017-07-24 20:25 Protastic101: 03:11:718 - ^
2017-07-24 20:27 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1288485 Helblinde - Heaven's Fall [Easy]]
2017-07-24 20:30 Protastic101: 00:42:918 - to 00:45:318 - pls use col 2
2017-07-24 20:30 Protastic101: 00:43:818 (43818|0) - might just get away with moving this to 2 then
2017-07-24 20:31 Kaito-kun: fixed
2017-07-24 20:33 Protastic101: 02:41:718 - to 02:44:718 -
2017-07-24 20:33 Protastic101: rip col 2
2017-07-24 20:34 Protastic101: 02:48:318 - to 02:50:718 - for real fam pls
2017-07-24 20:36 Protastic101: 03:06:018 (186018|2,186618|2) - why you stack dis doh
2017-07-24 20:38 Protastic101: 03:55:218 - to 03:57:618 - col 4 oppression pls
DDMythical
1 / 2 / 3 / 4

take everything i say with a massive pinch of salt

Justice Be Done
00:14:943 (14943|0,15018|3,15018|1,15093|2,15168|1,15168|3,15168|0) - For patterning like this you create an awkward transition (Note: the song doesn't really call for an awkward transition when a simpler, smoother one exists) Repatterning it to: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8680039 is more comfortable and evens out handbalance by making you alternate wrist motions for the jump-single-hand burst.
00:15:318 (15318|2) - If you apply my above mod; move this to 2 so that you flow out of the jump-single-hand burst easier.
00:22:218 (22218|0,22218|2,22293|3,22293|1,22368|2,22368|0) - Does this have to be a split jumptrill? You could simplify this into [12][34] so that it flows smoother as at the moment its just a bit awkward to play randomly when the song doesn't really change too much.
00:26:418 (26418|1) - Should probably move this to 1 to clear up column density. (note that your layering of exiting the trill with a jump-into-stack pattern isnt affected by this change.)
00:27:018 (27018|1,27093|2,27168|1,27243|2,27318|1,27393|2,27468|1,27543|2) - Listening to the sound here (75%) the hi-hats change at 00:27:318 (27318|1) - but you use the same inner (2-3) trill for both hihats. There is also no musical justification for a split jumptrill here. (00:27:018 (27018|1,27018|3,27093|0,27093|2,27168|3,27168|1,27243|0,27243|2) -) the sound is clearly 2 hi-hats into 4 different hi-hats.
01:02:193 (62193|2,62268|3,62268|0,62343|1,62418|0,62418|3) - These are all ghost notes? The vocals don't call for this or the percussion.
01:25:068 (85068|1,85143|2,85218|3,85218|1) - This is weirdddd... you could probably repattern this so that there isn't a minitrill on 2-3-2 (note that your other minitrills are ok because they are either patternically or musically justified)
AFTERNOTE: 01:23:493 (83493|3,83568|2) - you could flip these so that they're 3 and 4 respectively to have a MUCH more comfortable pattern.
01:37:818 (97818|1,97968|3,98118|2) - Harsh subjective opinion omit these notes from the map. It will give much more emphasis to the hand-crashes in this section and will give the player a nice break for their hands before entering the 200bpm light-handstream.
01:38:568 (98568|1,98718|2) - ^
01:38:568 (98568|1,98718|2,99018|0,99468|2) - ^
01:40:818 (100818|2,100818|0,100818|3,100968|1,100968|2,101118|1,101118|3,101268|0,101268|2) - Why omit the 1/4 sound here? You can repattern this into an angel of darkness styled trill which will lead well into the jumptrill. (heres an image of what i would do: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8680141&#41; With this change. Your right hand goes from a single jack to a wristjacking motion to a jumptrilling motion. It's a more sensical buildup into the handstreams rather than having a short break between the jack and the jumptrill with some light gluts. (also heavily subjective)
01:54:918 (114918|1,114918|3,114918|0,115518|0,115518|1,115518|3,116118|3,116118|0,116118|1,116718|1,116718|3,116718|0) - ???? Please switch up the hands used here, It's 4 of the same hand pattern in a row which creates an uneven hand(pun not intended) balance.
02:01:368 (121368|0,121818|3,121968|1,122268|1,122568|3,122718|1,122868|2) - Calling back to the heavily subjective opinion above. I would delete all of these notes to help emphasise the hand and jumps in this section. It will also give a nice break for the players before the jumptrill.
02:12:468 (132468|1,132543|2,132618|1,132618|3,132693|0,132768|2,132843|1,132918|0,132918|3,132993|1,133068|2,133143|0,133218|2,133218|3,133218|1) - Why does this burst not have a trill when every other burst in this section has a long-running trill?
02:22:818 (142818|2,142818|1,142818|0,143118|0,143118|1,143118|2,143718|1,143718|2,143718|0,144318|1,144318|2,144318|0) - The hands in this section are noticably repetitive and i would change some of these hands up and move the stack from 02:23:268 (143268|3,143568|3,143868|3,144168|3,144468|3) - to allow for the different hands.
(strangely the hands after this are layered and have none of these issues)
03:47:118 (227118|3,227418|3,227718|3,228018|3,228318|3,228618|3) - like; 6 note stack here. ???
04:08:343 (248343|3) - Praise: You didn't use a jump here. Thank god.
ArcherLove
HERE'S THE PIZZA

Topic Starter
Kaito-kun

DDMythical wrote:

1 / 2 / 3 / 4

take everything i say with a massive pinch of salt

Justice Be Done
00:14:943 (14943|0,15018|3,15018|1,15093|2,15168|1,15168|3,15168|0) - For patterning like this you create an awkward transition (Note: the song doesn't really call for an awkward transition when a simpler, smoother one exists) Repatterning it to: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8680039 is more comfortable and evens out handbalance by making you alternate wrist motions for the jump-single-hand burst. It doesn't evens out hand balance, in fact, it heavily strains the right hand while the left hand is left with almost nothing to do.
00:15:318 (15318|2) - If you apply my above mod; move this to 2 so that you flow out of the jump-single-hand burst easier. ^^^

00:22:218 (22218|0,22218|2,22293|3,22293|1,22368|2,22368|0) - Does this have to be a split jumptrill? You could simplify this into [12][34] so that it flows smoother as at the moment its just a bit awkward to play randomly when the song doesn't really change too much. Don't really see the problem with it being a split jumptrill tho. In fact, I think it fits pretty well there, and I never had problems playing with it regarding comfort

00:26:418 (26418|1) - Should probably move this to 1 to clear up column density. (note that your layering of exiting the trill with a jump-into-stack pattern isnt affected by this change.)Fair enough

00:27:018 (27018|1,27093|2,27168|1,27243|2,27318|1,27393|2,27468|1,27543|2) - Listening to the sound here (75%) the hi-hats change at 00:27:318 (27318|1) - but you use the same inner (2-3) trill for both hihats. There is also no musical justification for a split jumptrill here. (00:27:018 (27018|1,27018|3,27093|0,27093|2,27168|3,27168|1,27243|0,27243|2) -) the sound is clearly 2 hi-hats into 4 different hi-hats. Fair enough, changed the pattern to something that resembles the music more without reducing/increasing density (tho it does play better now)

01:02:193 (62193|2,62268|3,62268|0,62343|1,62418|0,62418|3) - These are all ghost notes? The vocals don't call for this or the percussion. The singles are not ghost notes, they do represent the same type of sound that is heard on the background in that section, but I chose not to map.

01:25:068 (85068|1,85143|2,85218|3,85218|1) - This is weirdddd... you could probably repattern this so that there isn't a minitrill on 2-3-2 (note that your other minitrills are ok because they are either patternically or musically justified) Don't really see the problem with this, I mean, 01:21:468 (81468|3,81543|2,81618|3) - is the same way as this one, 01:33:018 (93018|2,93093|1,93168|2) - this one too, etc. So why is this one specifically a problem?
(also pointing out that with the current patterning that this section has, removing that trill will make one of the columns overwheight, mainly columns 1 and 4 considering the options I tried while looking at it)


AFTERNOTE: 01:23:493 (83493|3,83568|2) - you could flip these so that they're 3 and 4 respectively to have a MUCH more comfortable pattern. Agreed, applied

01:37:818 (97818|1,97968|3,98118|2) - Harsh subjective opinion omit these notes from the map. It will give much more emphasis to the hand-crashes in this section and will give the player a nice break for their hands before entering the 200bpm light-handstream. I would only remove these if I were to add SVs to the map, which at this point, I highly doubt I do. Without these singles and no SVs either then, this section would feel pretty empty, considering the background music hasn't toned down (tho the kicks and snares have)
01:38:568 (98568|1,98718|2) - ^ ^^^
01:38:568 (98568|1,98718|2,99018|0,99468|2) - ^ ^^^

01:40:818 (100818|2,100818|0,100818|3,100968|1,100968|2,101118|1,101118|3,101268|0,101268|2) - Why omit the 1/4 sound here? You can repattern this into an angel of darkness styled trill which will lead well into the jumptrill. (heres an image of what i would do: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8680141&#41; With this change. Your right hand goes from a single jack to a wristjacking motion to a jumptrilling motion. It's a more sensical buildup into the handstreams rather than having a short break between the jack and the jumptrill with some light gluts. (also heavily subjective) It focus way too heavily on the right hand. I do see what you are saying with the change of motion, but it's just focused solely on the right hand to the point, that while the right hand has to deal with the 1/2 stacks, jumps and the the burst (which is practically the same motion), the left hand only hits 3 notes and the jumptrills his part of the burst.
Also, it has already been discussed about either leaving or removing the 1/4 notes, and after going throught some patterns, I decided it was best to leave them out for the sake of comfortability

01:54:918 (114918|1,114918|3,114918|0,115518|0,115518|1,115518|3,116118|3,116118|0,116118|1,116718|1,116718|3,116718|0) - ???? Please switch up the hands used here, It's 4 of the same hand pattern in a row which creates an uneven hand(pun not intended) balance. I honestly didn't notice that, may have ended up like that after I went on to fix some annoying stacks. Anways, fixed
02:01:368 (121368|0,121818|3,121968|1,122268|1,122568|3,122718|1,122868|2) - Calling back to the heavily subjective opinion above. I would delete all of these notes to help emphasise the hand and jumps in this section. It will also give a nice break for the players before the jumptrill. Same reasoning as last time
02:12:468 (132468|1,132543|2,132618|1,132618|3,132693|0,132768|2,132843|1,132918|0,132918|3,132993|1,133068|2,133143|0,133218|2,133218|3,133218|1) - Why does this burst not have a trill when every other burst in this section has a long-running trill? Because this static sound is different in nature, and also because it's better as a transition for the "calm" section just right after it
02:22:818 (142818|2,142818|1,142818|0,143118|0,143118|1,143118|2,143718|1,143718|2,143718|0,144318|1,144318|2,144318|0) - The hands in this section are noticably repetitive and i would change some of these hands up and move the stack from 02:23:268 (143268|3,143568|3,143868|3,144168|3,144468|3) - to allow for the different hands.
(strangely the hands after this are layered and have none of these issues) May have been accidental after applying some small changes to that section, fixed
03:47:118 (227118|3,227418|3,227718|3,228018|3,228318|3,228618|3) - like; 6 note stack here. ??? There's a 7-8 note stack right besides it tho :^). Anways, since it's 1/2 handstream, I don't consider this to be a problem, also considering the pattern-wise nature of this section and it's density at relatively low-speed (or at least lower than the rest of the chart)
04:08:343 (248343|3) - Praise: You didn't use a jump here. Thank god. At the very least, I respect the player's combo and desire to FC this map :^)
Why only a pinch of salt if you can get more?! :^) Thanks for mod

EDIT: RIP, I'm so useless I can't even properly do a memebox :^( cri intensifies

ArcherLove wrote:

HERE'S THE PIZZA

Prot, the pizza you ordered is here :^)
Protastic101
confirmed changes with mapper via irc

I can't play without pizza :/
DDMythical
can we get bns who can play the maps pls k thx shot
juankristal
IRC part 1/x
23:15 Kaito-kun: te vas despues de checkear Airborne?
23:19 juankristal: nop
23:19 juankristal: aunque deberia terminar el tiebreaker de la MWC
23:19 juankristal: XD
23:19 juankristal: pero que va
23:19 juankristal: vamos con heavens
23:20 Kaito-kun: ahora, o vas a acabar con Airborne primero?
23:21 juankristal: con airborne estoy listo
23:21 Kaito-kun: ah bueno
23:22 juankristal: por
23:22 juankristal: que
23:22 juankristal: mierad
23:22 juankristal: son
23:22 juankristal: 4minutos
23:22 juankristal: aaaaaaaaaa
23:23 Kaito-kun: ahora es que lo ves? XD
23:23 juankristal: no
23:23 juankristal: pero igual
23:23 juankristal: :fap:
23:23 *juankristal is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1288485 Helblinde - Heaven's Fall [Easy]]
23:24 juankristal: ni me preocupo en mirar los hitsounds
23:24 juankristal: ya que lo checkeo prot
23:24 Kaito-kun: Prot ya me tilteo lo suficiente con ellos :^)
23:25 juankristal: entonces
23:25 juankristal: 00:05:418 (5418|3) -
23:25 juankristal: por que eso no termina 00:06:018 - aqui?
23:26 Kaito-kun: porque es representando la estatica, que acaba en 00:06:318 -
23:26 juankristal: mmmh
23:27 juankristal: no me gusta mucho para una easy
23:27 juankristal: en especial porque los ritmos son un poco raros (los que seguis)
23:27 juankristal: 00:08:718 (8718|1,9168|2,9618|0) - como eso
23:28 Kaito-kun: es siguiendo practicamente el kick y snare
23:30 juankristal: pero que no va esta 00:09:168 (9168|2) - aca 00:09:318 -
23:30 juankristal: ademas pega con el piano, queda mas lindo
23:30 juankristal: tenes algo como
23:30 juankristal: 1-2...3
23:31 juankristal: esto suena mejor en mi cabeza
23:31 juankristal: que en texto
23:31 Kaito-kun: lol
23:32 juankristal: veni a vc
23:32 Kaito-kun: ok
23:33 juankristal: 00:00:018 (18|3,318|2,768|0) -
23:33 juankristal: 00:08:718 (8718|1,9168|2,9618|0) -
23:34 juankristal: 00:09:018 -
23:34 juankristal: 00:09:318 -
23:36 Kaito-kun: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8978679
23:43 juankristal: 01:14:418 (74418|2,74568|3,74868|1,75168|2,75468|0) -
23:43 Kaito-kun: 01:14:418 (74418|2) -
23:43 juankristal: 01:14:568 (74568|3) -
23:44 juankristal: 01:14:568 (74568|3) - borrar esto
23:46 Kaito-kun: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8978715
23:46 juankristal: 01:23:418 (83418|2) - borrar
23:48 Kaito-kun: 01:23:118 (83118|1) -
23:48 juankristal: 01:25:818 (85818|0) -
23:48 juankristal: 01:27:018 -
23:49 juankristal: 01:25:818 (85818|0,86118|3) -
23:49 juankristal: 01:27:318 (87318|0) -
23:52 juankristal: 01:37:518 (97518|0,97668|1,98268|3,98418|2,98868|0,98868|3,99168|1,99318|2) -
23:53 Kaito-kun: 01:37:668 (97668|1,98418|2,99318|2) -
23:55 juankristal: 01:37:668 -
23:55 juankristal: 01:38:418 -
23:55 juankristal: 01:38:868 -
23:55 juankristal: simple no doble
23:55 juankristal: 01:39:168 -
23:56 juankristal: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8978776
23:56 Kaito-kun: 01:37:218 (97218|3,97218|2) -
23:58 Kaito-kun: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8978782
23:58 juankristal: 02:01:518 (121518|1,121668|2) -
23:59 juankristal: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8978787
00:00 juankristal: 02:08:118 (128118|0) -
00:01 juankristal: 02:10:518 -
00:03 juankristal: 02:26:718 (146718|2,147018|3) - invert
00:04 juankristal: 03:14:868 (194868|1,195018|3,195168|2) -
00:05 juankristal: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8978811
00:06 Kaito-kun: 03:15:918 (195918|2,196218|3) -
00:08 juankristal: 04:05:568 (245568|0,245868|3) -
00:08 juankristal: 03:25:518 -
00:17 *juankristal is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1288486 Helblinde - Heaven's Fall [Normal]] <osu!mania> |4K|
00:22 juankristal: 00:57:618 -
00:25 juankristal: 00:57:618 -
00:25 juankristal: 2/1 double
00:25 juankristal: stream 1/1
00:29 Kaito-kun: 00:28:818 -
00:34 juankristal: 01:01:218 (61218|0,61368|2,61518|1,61668|3,61818|0,61968|2,62118|1,62268|3,62418|0) -
00:35 juankristal: 01:06:618 (66618|0,66768|2,66918|1,67068|3,67218|0,67218|2) -
00:35 juankristal: 01:19:818 -
00:36 juankristal: 01:18:489 -
00:36 juankristal: 01:20:868 -
00:36 juankristal: 01:22:218 -
00:37 juankristal: 01:24:618 -
00:37 juankristal: 01:27:018 - creo que aca
00:37 juankristal: 01:29:418 -
00:39 Kaito-kun: 01:14:418 (74418|3,74568|2) -
00:42 juankristal: 01:31:818 - creo
00:42 juankristal: 01:33:018 -
00:42 juankristal: 01:34:218 -
00:42 juankristal: 01:36:618 -
00:43 juankristal: 01:38:718 - simple
00:46 juankristal: 02:46:518 -
00:46 juankristal: 02:47:118 - 02:46:968 (166968|2) - moveria
00:46 juankristal: 02:49:368 (169368|2) -
00:47 juankristal: 02:57:768 (177768|3,177918|1,178068|2,178218|3,178368|1,178518|2,178668|3,178818|1,178968|2,179118|3) -
00:48 juankristal: 02:48:318 (168318|1,168468|2,168618|1,168768|0,168918|3) -
00:48 juankristal: esa parte sigue al sint
00:50 Kaito-kun: 02:47:568 (167568|3) -
00:51 juankristal: 02:47:268 (167268|1) -
00:52 juankristal: 02:48:318 (168318|1,168468|2) - 1 derecha
00:53 juankristal: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8979015
00:55 Kaito-kun: 03:14:718 -

NM and HD sort of done
juankristal
hard
01:20:118 - deberia ser doble imo, ya es todo tan denso que no vale la pena no ponerla doble ahi

01:23:118 (83118|1,83118|0,83268|0,83268|1,83718|2,83718|1,83868|1,83868|2) - Creo que esto es un poco denso para una hard, diria que es mejor (a pesar de que los jacks pegan bien) tener algo [12][34] o quizas split handed. Se ve muy densa esta seccion.

02:46:218 (166218|2,166368|1) - ctrl+h para evitar el [13] stack. Ademas cambia el pitch.

antalf
00:01:068 (1068|1,1218|1) - Ese jack esta feito, especialmente viendo que la extra no lo usa. Fijate de mover un poco las cosas y quitarlo

00:03:393 (3393|1,3543|1,3618|2) - Ctrl+h a esto, para el buen hand balance y para que la doble sea [24] y sea jack con la que sigue que suenan mas o menos similares.

00:05:493 (5493|1) - esta pa 1 y 00:05:568 (5568|2) - esta pa 4

00:07:893 (7893|2) - Esta pa 1 y esto 00:07:968 (7968|3,8043|2) - ctrl+g (ojo el hitsound)

00:11:868 (11868|0,11943|1,12018|2,12018|3,12168|0,12318|3) - Ctrl+h hand balance y jack consistency

00:13:143 (13143|2,13293|2,13368|0) - Ctrl+h y pa la izquierda po

00:17:943 (17943|2,18018|1) - Me pensaria un ctrl+h aca tambien. Casi todo es para evitar one hand trills que son medio feas para transicionar desde la hard

00:19:218 - hasta 00:21:618 - es un poco largo para ir full 1/4 quizas. Yo meteria breaks en los marcados del tambor (usaria dobles y dejaria un espacio de 1/4 entre medio del stream)

00:27:168 (27168|2,27243|1,27393|2,27543|2,27693|1,27843|1) - Ctrl+h

00:47:118 - Yo aca usaria 1-4-1-4-2-3-2-3. Fijate vos que te gusta mas, el one hand me parece un poco mucho.

00:51:918 - shoro porque aca no hay LN ;_;

01:01:218 - Pensaba algo como esto, aunque quizas queda feo, fijate:



01:22:893 (82893|2,83043|2) - Aca estas dos las bajaria un tick para que quede [34][34]

01:57:393 (117393|2) - Quizas al 1, no me gusta ese one hand

02:05:418 - same con los one hand, voy a dejar de marcarlos pero tenelos todos en cuenta

02:17:418 (137418|0,137568|0,137718|0) - ewwwwww, proba esto:



02:50:718 (170718|2,170868|2,171018|3,171168|3) - warning, cambia de mano al segundo de esa secuencia.

Extra
00:55:068 (55068|1) - Quizas la moveria a 1

02:58:143 (178143|3,178368|3,178518|3,178668|3,178893|3) - Eso quizas es un poco molesto, fijate si lo quieres cambiar

No mucho realmente

Justice pa otro momento
Topic Starter
Kaito-kun

juankristal wrote:

hard
01:20:118 - deberia ser doble imo, ya es todo tan denso que no vale la pena no ponerla doble ahi Bueno,
no le veo problema, asi que aplicado (a esa y a otra mas adelante)


01:23:118 (83118|1,83118|0,83268|0,83268|1,83718|2,83718|1,83868|1,83868|2) - Creo que esto es un poco denso para una hard, diria que es mejor (a pesar de que los jacks pegan bien) tener algo [12][34] o quizas split handed. Se ve muy densa esta seccion. Me mantuve con este jack 01:23:118 (83118|0,83118|1,83268|1,83268|0) - y cambie el 2do a algo como un jumptrill. Foto por si no entiendes mi explicacion retardada :^)

02:46:218 (166218|2,166368|1) - ctrl+h para evitar el [13] stack. Ademas cambia el pitch. Touche, aplicado

Extra
00:55:068 (55068|1) - Quizas la moveria a 1 Bueno, queda mas bonito, aplicado

02:58:143 (178143|3,178368|3,178518|3,178668|3,178893|3) - Eso quizas es un poco molesto, fijate si lo quieres cambiar Cambiado a (posiblemente) un mejor patron :^)

No mucho realmente

Justice pa otro momento Cuando quieras y puedas, no hay prisa :D
Antalf

juankristal wrote:

antalf
00:01:068 (1068|1,1218|1) - Ese jack esta feito, especialmente viendo que la extra no lo usa. Fijate de mover un poco las cosas y quitarlo Hice ctrl + j a esto, se arreglo 00:01:218 (1218|1,1368|0) -

00:03:393 (3393|1,3543|1,3618|2) - Ctrl+h a esto, para el buen hand balance y para que la doble sea [24] y sea jack con la que sigue que suenan mas o menos similares. arregle el patron

00:05:493 (5493|1) - esta pa 1 y 00:05:568 (5568|2) - esta pa 4 lo voy a dejar como esta ya que prefiero dejarlo como un trill por el sonido repetitivo de los platillos, y aparte de que no es tan dificil que se diga

00:07:893 (7893|2) - Esta pa 1 y esto 00:07:968 (7968|3,8043|2) - ctrl+g (ojo el hitsound) lo mismo va para este ^

00:11:868 (11868|0,11943|1,12018|2,12018|3,12168|0,12318|3) - Ctrl+h hand balance y jack consistency cietro, arreglado

00:13:143 (13143|2,13293|2,13368|0) - Ctrl+h y pa la izquierda po ese patron lo arregle

00:17:943 (17943|2,18018|1) - Me pensaria un ctrl+h aca tambien. Casi todo es para evitar one hand trills que son medio feas para transicionar desde la hard si ya que dices de la transicion es cierto, arreglado

00:19:218 - hasta 00:21:618 - es un poco largo para ir full 1/4 quizas. Yo meteria breaks en los marcados del tambor (usaria dobles y dejaria un espacio de 1/4 entre medio del stream) agregue dos pequeñas pausas para que sea un poco mas facil y cambie el patron por igual

00:27:168 (27168|2,27243|1,27393|2,27543|2,27693|1,27843|1) - Ctrl+h arreglado

00:47:118 - Yo aca usaria 1-4-1-4-2-3-2-3. Fijate vos que te gusta mas, el one hand me parece un poco mucho. lo voy a dejar asi ya que considero que el sonido aparte de ser muy apegado en pitch es bien intenso y deberia tener cierto nivel de dificultad

00:51:918 - shoro porque aca no hay LN ;_; po no shores mas que lo volvi una ln 1/2

01:01:218 - Pensaba algo como esto, aunque quizas queda feo, fijate: no se, quisiera dejarlo como esta ahora mismo ya que seria igual por los mini stacks que tengo (01:01:218 (61218|3,61368|3,61368|2,61518|0,61518|2,61668|0,61818|3,61968|3,62118|1,62268|1) - )



01:22:893 (82893|2,83043|2) - Aca estas dos las bajaria un tick para que quede [34][34] el unico porblema con eso seria que hay sonido en el 1/4 que no puedo ignorar porque lo e estado mappeando

01:57:393 (117393|2) - Quizas al 1, no me gusta ese one hand listo

02:05:418 - same con los one hand, voy a dejar de marcarlos pero tenelos todos en cuenta ese lo voy a cambiar, los otros los revise, y dejare algunos que dependiendo van mejor con la cancion

02:17:418 (137418|0,137568|0,137718|0) - ewwwwww, proba esto: dios pero que es eso, arreglado



02:50:718 (170718|2,170868|2,171018|3,171168|3) - warning, cambia de mano al segundo de esa secuencia. sep arreglado


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00:17:793 (17793|2,17943|2,18018|1) - Esto yo le haria un ctrl+h, para mantener la motion del trill. Algo similar tendrias que hacer 00:03:318 - aca. (en los casos de los 14-23 trills ya se mantiene la motion)

Yo haria 00:42:543 (42543|3,42618|0,42618|1,42693|2,42768|1,42768|0,42843|3,42918|0,42918|1,42993|2,43068|1,43068|0,43143|3,43218|2,43218|1,43218|0,43293|3) - ctrl+h a esto y moveria ese jack que se forma. Para evitar un anchor largo en la primera columna. Algo asi? Alguna forma que quite ese anchor y te parezca comoda vale.



02:42:693 (162693|2,162693|3) - :thinking: que es esto

03:05:868 (185868|2) - Esta la moveria a 4, ya que en 3 tenes el minijack y los timings son distintos, en 4 tenes una especie de anchor, algo incomodo pero al menos consistente. No te digo a 1 porque lo haria muy rolly y quizas medio aburrido. Depende lo que hagas, ojo con la LN que le sigue.

owo
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Kaito-kun

juankristal wrote:

Justice
00:17:793 (17793|2,17943|2,18018|1) - Esto yo le haria un ctrl+h, para mantener la motion del trill. Algo similar tendrias que hacer 00:03:318 - aca. (en los casos de los 14-23 trills ya se mantiene la motion) Buena idea, aplicado para ambos trills que mostraste

Yo haria 00:42:543 (42543|3,42618|0,42618|1,42693|2,42768|1,42768|0,42843|3,42918|0,42918|1,42993|2,43068|1,43068|0,43143|3,43218|2,43218|1,43218|0,43293|3) - ctrl+h a esto y moveria ese jack que se forma. Para evitar un anchor largo en la primera columna. Algo asi? Alguna forma que quite ese anchor y te parezca comoda vale.


Y yo que tarde como una hora intentando hacer eso lo mas comodo posible, y tu brincas de repente con una idea que nunca se me ocurrio XD. Aplicado tal y como esta en la imagen.


02:42:693 (162693|2,162693|3) - :thinking: que es esto Practicamente, despues del trill, suena el mismo patron que 02:43:818 (163818|0,163818|3,163893|1,163893|2,163968|3,163968|0) -, por eso la doble (la primera no es una doble por el jack inintencional que crearia).

03:05:868 (185868|2) - Esta la moveria a 4, ya que en 3 tenes el minijack y los timings son distintos, en 4 tenes una especie de anchor, algo incomodo pero al menos consistente. No te digo a 1 porque lo haria muy rolly y quizas medio aburrido. Depende lo que hagas, ojo con la LN que le sigue. Movi la LN a la 3ra columna, y puse la nota en la 4ta como dijiste.

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Kaito-kun

juankristal wrote:

Fuego you are next

Tfw you can't use this excuse anymore

Thanks a lot juan!

And to all the retards who practically forced me to rank this :^)
Protastic101

Kaito-kun wrote:

And to all the retards who practically forced me to rank this :^)
i feel like i was the one forced into bubbling this tho >:c
Ascendance
congrats<3
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Kaito-kun

Protastic101 wrote:

Kaito-kun wrote:

And to all the retards who practically forced me to rank this :^)
i feel like i was the one forced into bubbling this tho >:c
No, u were forced to insta-rank my map, but you rebelled against me and bubbled it instead smh :^)

Ascendance wrote:

congrats<3
Thanks Bakascendace <3
Kimitakari
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Revoky
i feel like this song is full of 'endings'

"Oh? finally the end-" but NOOOOOO IT CONTINUES FFS
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