st_stefan wrote:

_kise: actually my part lol
04:20:153 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This part should use the same rythm as 04:22:896 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - since its the same thing in the music twice, with an other ending sound. The difference between important notes and unimportant notes doesn't change. Sure

04:20:582 (4,8) - Make them reverse sliders, feels better imo.
04:21:782 - I want to click that sound.
04:21:954 (3,4,5,6,7) - maby do it like this, so the base sound is klickable


04:23:410 (4) - this slider is placed on two strong sounds with two less important sounds after them. One of them is skipped and the sound on the end of this slider is stronger than 04:23:668 (5) - the sound of this circle. I would think 2 short sliders would fit better.

04:24:353 (2,4) - I think the notes on the end of these sliders are strong enough to be clicked especially on 04:24:782 (4) - this one.

st_stefan wrote:

Hello from my queue.
finally heres my mod
map looks awesome

General:
Nice BG picture Name lol ty

04:48:610 (13) - I think the last tick of this slider is a stronger sound than the jump afterwards yea but if i make kickslider shorter (4/4 to 3/4) and add a circle before 04:48:953 (1,2,3) - i would confuse player a lot and even cause combo break there

Good luck with this map

[General]

1. OD 8,6 for a map like this is overkill, use like 8 - 8,2 i'd say since going up higher is only making it harder to hit and considering you use very cramped patterns that is a pretty big issue, speaking about settings HP is ok i think but if i were you i'd still nerf it to 5,5 because of the same reason as above ^ only that this time you'll lose a lot of hp xd od 8,2
2. The bg seems to have no assosiation with the song what so ever, the translation form Dans la mer de son means A sea of her in French yet there seems to be no "sea" here at all just a random anime character. Just a suggestion i have here where the birds representing broken love which represents "her" as a never to forger figure and since "sea" will then represent a deep feeling for "her" it would fit really nicely imo, But you could say the bg suggestion doesn't feel that strong of impact for all the wubs, but if you look at it this way the wubs are not as strong as what you'd compare it to all the other camellia songs (exceptions are kiai's) most of the parts are calm in feeling and relaxing and that's what this bg would fit in. I tihnk lol too late to change it because sb is half way done and we don't really want to change it anyways

[Endless Sea]

1. 00:05:067 (1) - If i were you i'd make this a bit quieter than 00:05:410 (3) - so that it would look something like this, For example: (1) gets 10% volume and (3) gets 20% volume in that way you'd make the intensity rise at note (3) emphasized more, since the bells change on that note ever so slightly. Just a suggestion there's nothing wrong with you're current status but i think that would be a pretty dank addition if you done it for all patterns like that in the beginning don't think we need it
2. 00:38:839 (6)
3. 00:40:382 (2,3) - you should delete these notes tbh, they don't really follow any dominant sounds and if you delete them the emphasis at 00:43:296 (2)
4. 00:44:325 (6) - same as before don't map the same slider as you did here 00:44:153 (5) - both different sounds all together
   changed
5. 00:58:382 (1) - ook so for this section the spacing you have used is way too big considering it's more or less the same stream spacing you used in the kiai's this is really really odd to do the same thing here, in the box below this suggestion you will find a couple of links with screenshots to a solution to this pattern i split them up into 3 screenshots to help you see exactly what's going on i've tweaked some flow issues and ds by the time and atm won't change it like you've suggested because imo it's fine and also i had asked many people feedback and they were agreeing with me so no changes there
   
   https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6800215 - the first screenshot shows you that the triplets are now stacked the reason for that is because there isn't any sounds before that slider that are standing out as much in comparasing to 00:58:725 (1) - for instanse so making it such high spacing is nonsense
   
   http://puu.sh/sOqdL/98df415a76.jpg - The second screenshot shows you the spacing i used for this pattern triplet and its position (its the slider end of 00:57:525 (2) - ) it's curved at a angle to lead into the third screenshot
   
   http://puu.sh/sOqie/ef87efbdf2.jpg - here you see that slider (4) is highlighted that is to show you it's position and that it's rotated by -45* to maintain that circular motion with (3) and finally the last note at the last stacked triplet slider is stacked too, you may be wondering "why doe it's got the same sounds as the previous triple t sound that you just complained about a r e u drunk cool wtf" well let me tell you why, There are many reasons why but the one i solely would focus on is the fact that 00:59:239 (1,2,3) - this thing is the stacked triplet slider before 00:59:582 (1) - the spaced out stream so making the spacing the same (0,5x) as in the previous slider would only make it more awkward to hit since youll be moving downards onto a stream that goes into another angle, it's awkward to hit. So by stacking the notes here you let the player rest a little and stay in a non moving motion before then moving onto the next anti-flow stream which will add emphasis on it too!
6. 01:28:296 (4,1,2)
7. 01:30:782 - remapped
8. 01:31:468 (1) - ok so your doubles here don't fit at all tbh you miss a lot of emphasis on most of the part here which is really not fitting and off putting, more or less this is the rhytm you should use for this part to get all the emphasis on everything (i spaced things out i would have, but you can do it differently however you want it was just to give a fair example) doubles are fine imo
9. 01:37:468 (2) - for this you could use the same arrangement for the stream as i provided ^, not the same placement just the first note placement if you changed it to that, if not use whatever spacing you did
10. 01:42:439 (1) - your volume setting for these is way too loud, you should have start at like 25% rather than 40% maybe your setting are tweaked differently because im ok with 40%
11. 02:07:296 (3,5) - these sort of angles on sliders are so bad imo, they just flow so horribly like for example these ones 02:06:782 (1,2) - are fine since they have at least sometime the player can move his cursor the other way, whilst the ones i mentioned first don't give you that time and just put you at a awkward angle to hit, Also in terms of sliders use the same sliders for the same sounds why just spam new and random (sometimes uglier) slider shapes when all of the follow the same sounds, makes it more consistenr and if you get it right once youll get it right always, more all less all this spammy slider section too this point applies for ok
12. 02:26:325 (1) - since this is a 1/3 section here and it has been nowhere to be seen in the previous parts start this section off with a 1/3 repeat slider to lead the player nicely into the rest of the 1/3 section so even doing something like this would make it more comfortable to play, since the player 1. isn't expecting it and therefore when plays this section he will mistake this spacing as just 1/2 clicks rather than a 1/3 stream, since spacing is really similar to more or less the quieter sections in the map it's easy to mistaken and placing that slider will introduce him into the rest of the section with a ease of what's going on since he will have a sense of rhythm by that point 2. starting off a totally different snapping stream like for example 1/3 should be represented using something different rather than constant mapping that you used across the whole map, and since it's something newer it should be introduced in a easier fashion than the rest of the map. So even placing straight slider like this one would do the trick its ok imo, yes it would be hard for player to switch between 1/4 and 1/3 but i think that 6circles are better option than 1+3
13. 02:38:668 (1,2,3) - although im not a big fan of this pattern it's nicely mapped and follows things well
14. 02:40:382 (3) - fix stack with 02:39:353 (1) - ?ok
15. 02:41:582 (2) - there's a sound on the blue tick that when missing it out on those sliders is making it sounds relaly offputting, making these longer 1/1 sliders just 1/2 only with a repeat would sound and play much better tbh what sound lol
16. 04:34:468 (4,1) - your note placement in this kiai is usually spread out here, making this a stack confuses the shit out of players since literally 1 pattern ago this wasn't the case and it feels odd too, you always kept a 1/2 gap between the next notes too like here 04:31:468 (3,1) - 1/2 gap between the next things or here 04:32:839 (3,1) - these are same sounds all along here too 04:34:210 (3) - ! so keep these things consistent, spacing will be an issue here when you delete this note here yes! but that doesn't mean that should stop you from re-arranging things to make it more consistent ! There's also practically no sound mapped to that! ok but won't change spacing because 04:34:210 (3,1) - and 04:45:182 (3,1) - kind of similar and a ds change would require to remap those sections
17. 04:45:439 (4) - ^ ye ^
18. 04:49:639 (1) - 4.2x on ds cmon, you never even used that spacing in the kiai itself and this part is calmer, same goes for 04:49:125 (3) - which has even higher spacing jez i don't think it's an issue because at this point music gets highly intense
19. 04:52:725 (1) - why make a stream jump at a calmer music part, that just doesn't fit really, make this just a normal stream end and maybe even a slower slider than current state to emphasize that intense music change, so like you could make 04:52:725 (1) - this sv like 1,4x and make it 3/4 too to emphasize that background noise, since the sound you are emphasizing atm is basically hearable all the time whilst this background noise sound isn't which makes it something better to map to ! and if slower things lead into another section more emphasis is gained and because you used a 2x sv slider here 04:53:068 (1) - making a slower slider before that would really fit ye
20. 05:35:582 (1) - same suggestion about the 1/3 pattern above that i said you should dohmmmmm told already

[Final Words]
The map imo needs a lot more mods looking at rhythm choices, spacing, slider, overlap and placement issues imo, since in it's current state it needs a lot of refinment imo. The points I have made through out this mod apply to more than just one point most likely, I just haven't mentioned it since once you apply it (or deny it w/e) you should then go on looking for similar mistakes and changing them accordingly too. Like that slow slider section for example that i said you could use same shapes that's what i mean more or less.

Anyway that's more or less how i feel about the map, Good Luck!!

Neoskylove wrote:

[asdf]
02:37:468 (2,4) - avoid overlap intendededed

Neoskylove wrote:

Q
turn on display epilesy warning ok
00:44:153 (5) - unsmap ok
00:44:325 (6) - ^ ok
02:10:896 (1) - ctrl G for better flow not sure if it makes it flow better so
03:09:096 (1,2,3) - really hard to read overlap i don't think so because if you got used to similar style maps it won't be hard to read tho
04:31:125 (1,2,3) - hard to play and read why.? imo it is not that hard to play and read, you just need to get used to it

GL

[Nemesis] wrote:

hi

M4M'ing

Endless Sea

01:16:039 (7,1) - unlike the patterns you've used before this note is exactly over the stream. I'd either move this one a little, or fix every other pattern, for the sake of consequency. follows the same back and forth as the previous ones, so it's more consistent to keep it
01:14:668 (7,4) - uhm, I'm not sure about the readability of these sliders... make them look a bit more obvious like 01:28:382 (4) - intentional because it's a different part in the song from everything else

[Nemesis] wrote:

hi

M4M'ing

Endless Sea

01:43:553 (6) - different combo colors please, it's almost unreadable. seperated with different shades of gray
05:15:953 (2) - uhhh, for some reason this feels so uncomfortable to read .__. that's why this part is so tricky, not every map should be easy. i would say it's a mini challenge for player
05:27:782 (4,1) - and 05:30:696 (6,1) - lack of flow consistency this section is complex in its own way, i think it's fine according to stacks and placement

that's all, it's almost perfect, I love it <3

Lasse wrote:

00:19:982 - even spacing or full stack here would make more sense cause tail and both circles map the same sound, similar for things like 00:30:268 (1,2,3) - changed 1st one to be more consistent
01:02:668 - from here on I don't get your rhythm choice at all. at first I thought this was supposed to become some kind of buildup but it just seemingly randomly swaps between repeat slidrs and circles the whole time
01:05:410 - similar but with 1/2 00:59:925 - buildup for the rhythm of the triples, followed by 01:02:668 - which is triples into return sliders that is buildup for aim, then the spacing keeps increasing to add even more buildup. All of this is intentional since an unusual rhythm is coming up with varied spacing

01:11:925 (7,1) - you really have to care more about what autostacking does to things like this . make sure http://i.imgur.com/Ca4sr27.jpg is enabled and it should be obvious. things like http://i.imgur.com/V4dHKWb.jpg happen on smany spots in the whole map and should be manually adjusted it's always enabled though and honestly i've stopped caring about this since every other ranked map has multiple of these issues without anyone being bothered


gl

Lasse wrote:

from m4m

your greys probably look a bit too identical ingame
05:18:268 (1) - offscreen http://i.imgur.com/sxrJERl.jpg i don't see why is it a problem? say you're playing hr (cs:5.2) then it won't even go offscreen
05:31:468 (1) - even more http://i.imgur.com/L7j5XSj.jpg ok
05:31:982 (1) - lol http://i.imgur.com/Pin0CFq.jpg ok

one thing that happens on many spots in the map is this really bad playfield usage. take 00:05:067 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - for example. it's all in this very small restricted area, making it feel pretty boring i've changed some sliders but main idea is the same, because i stack every 00:05:067 (1,1,1,1) - on previous sliders tail, it's complicated to use whole playfield

01:27:182 (4) - some kind of whistle would be great here ok
01:43:810 - whole part could use whistles to accentuate high pitched sounds better that many hitsounds might be a bit overkill
02:26:325 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1) - I'd just swap this rhythm to introduce the new snapping with repeats instead of having the easier rhythm later. also rhythm sounds like http://i.imgur.com/2Slihsm.jpg would fit better ok, changed

04:14:668 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,1,2) - I don't think this makes much sense tapping wise causet he song puts more emphasis on white ticks, but your triples do the opposite if i would swap then it would be worse imo, in this case i wanted to make buildup more intense

04:31:382 (2) - 1/4 spacing for this whole part is lol and I don't think it makes much sense with the intensity of the song to suddenly make the 1/4 jumps.. stacked, it's similar to the first kiai, so there won't be 1/4 large spacings, in some places i left because there was no better solution
04:42:096 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - one of the many spots where things just get extremely cluttered for no reason, using more of the playfield and more varied movement would help well i changed some placement, hope it's better

02:05:753 - 05:15:010 - while the drum beats are very similar for these parts, the others things are quite different, so having the parts feel this similar in the map was is a bit underwhelming it may seem it but that was the basic concept why these parts feel similar; as well as storyboard itself changes at the end
05:35:582 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1) - similar issue to the other 1/3 stream ok

gl

6th wrote:

Hey.
00:18:096 (2,1) - Please stack them so the movement start on 00:18:268 (1) - to emphasize it. You already did that at 00:21:525 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - etc. It's a distinct sound on a 1/2 so i want to put more emphasis by adding spacing between 00:18:096 (2,1) - . The others which you pointed out were 1/1s so I could stack them without making reading too hard
00:25:125 (2,3) - CTRL+G to keep the using of stacks consistent and coherent. Same goes for 00:33:353 (2,3) - Don't think that's an issue, but I changed some of them
00:25:468 (4,5) - Maybe you could lower the spawing a bit ? It doesn't look that justified. Done
00:28:210 (2) - Reverse it for consistency. If you really don't want to do it then you may want to remove that anti-jump 00:28:210 (2,3) -. It can be really surprising for the player since it's the first time that an anti-jump has appeared in your map. Intentional, also 00:30:096 (4,1) - is the same
00:59:925 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I don't really get why you do that but you break momentum at 01:02:668 (1) -, it doesn't reflect the song very well. Personally I think it reflects the music well as the drums get louder I put more emphasis on the aim strain instead of rhythm as stated in a mod before
01:06:439 (5,6,1) - Spacing seems unnecessarily high compared to 01:07:810 (4,5) - and 01:05:410 (1,2) - , I recommand lowering it. ^
01:10:896 (1,2,3) - This rhythm is really tricky and inintuitive since it compells the player to suddenly click on white tick, then blue ones. You may want to make a transition between the 2 rhythms, that's why I recommand doing something like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7376153 that (just look at rhythm, not placement). The player will notice extended sliders and click just after, therefore it will be much more readable. Intentional as well, imo this is the best way I could map these sounds. They are unique in this song and I made the previous section lead to this by building up the intensity through different rhythms and spacings
03:44:496 (1,2) - 03:49:982 (2,2) - You usually don't overmap calm sections so just extend them to red tick. I feel like sounds similar to this 03:53:239 (3) - need some emphasis
03:56:382 (1,1) - They're all finishing on the downbeat so consider reversing 03:55:010 (1) -, it makes more sense. It's really awkwardly timed so placing notes instead of sliders would lead to very random 100s and I want to avoid that in a slow part
04:20:839 (5) - NC yes
04:21:525 (1,2,3,4) - Why does the rhythm change compared to 04:20:153 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ? To add variety because that section is literally just double spam. 04:21:525 (1,2,3,4) - and 04:24:268 (1,2,3,4) - follow the same reasoning
04:55:039 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1) - It doesn't sound that different from the other streams so why is spacing inconsistent here ? different mapper so it might not match? my streams in last kiai are all spaced the same
05:01:296 (1,1) - 05:01:982 (1,2,1) - Please make the rhythm consistent since they sound the same. How does 05:01:296 (1) - and 05:01:982 (1) - sound the same?

6th wrote:

Hey.

00:11:068 (4) - Idk if it's intended or not but its end cool look a bit better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7376087. ok
00:41:410 (4) - 00:38:668 (5,6) - Why are they different when they sound the same musically ? You do alternate sliders and kicksliders + triplet consistently from 00:37:982 - to 00:53:925 - but it doesn't make much sense in such a repetitive section and makes the section unbalanced in terms of difficulty since one is much harder than the other. they're different because 00:38:668 (5,6) - i was mapping percussion and later on 00:41:410 (4) - only bell sound; ofc it might seem overmapped because the percussion 00:38:668 (5,6) - 00:44:153 (5,6) - etc. is very quiet
00:57:182 (1,2,3) - I don't really get why they are different from 00:54:439 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - (especially the reverse slider), again they sound the same. I guess you wanted to make a transition between these 00:56:839 (2,1) - but it doesn't work well since the player have to suddenly click on a red tick after an 1/1-long slider. Adding a circle at 00:58:210 - would fix that. 00:54:439 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - they repeat 4 times so it's ok to make changes at the 5th one, besides adding a circle at 00:58:210 would cause remapping 00:58:382 - and even harder for player to read because there is no slight change musically so i guess i'll keep the reverse slider how it is if change is not necessary here
01:31:468 (1,2,3,4) - They could easily be read as doubles, try something like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7376222 sure okay
02:06:010 (2,1) - iirc it's unrankable. Ask a QAT/BN. i'll figure it out
02:42:953 (4,1,2,3) - Flow looks too wide between them, I recommand moving the triplet a bit to the right. well i moved a bit xd
02:47:925 (3,4,1) - This feels a bit weird to play tbh, mind moving 02:48:268 (1) - under 02:48:182 (4) - ? well not really because as it is now it would be complicated to remap this part considering 02:47:925 (3,1) - blanket + 02:48:268 (1,1) - connects
03:01:553 - 03:02:925 - (etc) Are you sure about ignoring that sound ? ok i'll add a circle there and make it stack with next slider

This is a good map but you could have done better rhythm choices imo.

1. 05:18:268 (1) offscreen
2. 00:05:582 (4) - slider ticks sounds really bad, they doesn't fit the music at all, you can use a 5% volume line there.
3. 00:08:325 (4) - same as above
4. 00:11:068 (4) - ^
5. 00:13:810 (4) - ^
6. 00:16:553 (4,1) - suddenly you decide to silence the slider ticks? why you didn't that before, btw the slider-slide sound is annoying as well. You guys can just silence the slider-slide and use 5% volume lines to make the ticks less louder
7. from here 00:16:039 (1) - to here 00:36:439 (3) - you should reduce the spacing of the 1/2s (jumps), since the song stay calm at this section, so I don't see any objective reason to have jumps there tbh.
8. 00:49:810 (6,1) - super nazi, the stack is a bit off
9. 00:57:182 (1,2) - this should follow the same pattern as before, since the music is basically the same, I don't see any reason to suddenly change the flow of the map like that, it feels weird and inconsistent
10. 00:58:896 (3,4) - this doesn't looks nice, 4 looks randomly placed, also the straigh flow 00:58:896 (3,4,1) - isn't good to play, you should think more about those objects placements
11. 01:02:668 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - the rhythm here is super random, like I don't see any kind of coherent pattern, you are just placing random circles and repeat sliders, you need to place them better in a more coherent way.
12. 01:16:382 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this doesn't fit the music at all, listen again and you will notice that they are triplets, yes there are background secondary beats on every 1/4, but that doesn't justify to put random sliders at all, a proper rhythm would be triplets, you can use a slider in the third beat.
13. 01:17:068 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - same as above, some one may agree with you, but I really don't agree with your current rhythm at all.
14. 01:19:125 (1,2,1,2) - they all basically follow the same rhythm in the song, why they are grouped as 1-2 combos and why some are overlapped while the other ones doesn't? also I don't recomend to use 1/8 jumps at all.
15. 01:21:868 (1,2) - using an extended slider to fit the drum, cool. But why you are ignoring it at 01:22:382 (3) - ? same here 01:24:610 (1,2,3) -
16. 01:33:525 (5) - oh now you aren't ignoring it, where is the consistency?
17. 01:36:096 (3,4,5,6,7) - now there is a random stream ^ ?
18. 01:37:125 (2) - now a single slider ^?
19. 01:31:468 (1,2,3,4) - why are you ignoring the red tick? you basically mapped that sound in all the previous part and now you suddenly ignore it to map a secondary 1/4 beats that aren't noticeable at all
20. 01:36:610 (8) - ignoring a strong beat at the red tick to map a bluetick without support from the music
21. 01:48:096 (2,3,4) - listen to this part again, this doesn't fit the song at all, is cool to use gimmicks, but pls try to follow the music as close as you can
22. 01:50:839 (2,3,4) - ^ etc
23. 01:53:410 (1,2,3) - 01:54:096 (4,5,6) - ^
24. 02:01:296 (2) - should be a NC here and the next ones, since is a different sound and not the same as you are following with the slider
25. 02:06:268 (1,2,1) - stacks are what bother me more about this map, check how this looks in game, is not only bad for the visuals, but also hard to read, this happen basically in all the map and you guys should care about it
26. 02:07:553 (4,5,1) - spacing?
27. 02:11:496 (2,1) - overlapping perfectly half of the slider isn't nice, is hard to read, a manual stack would be better
28. 02:13:039 (4) - when using repeat sliders there are 2 things that you should take in consideration, 1 the click able beat is stronger than the repeat and tail and the 3 beats have the same pitch, your current one doesn't follow any, head and repeat are mapped to strong beats while the tail is mapped to a totally different beat, that's why sounds really bad
29. 02:15:268 (2) - same as above, there are more btw
30. 02:18:525 (4,5,1) - spacing
    

Natsu wrote:

illl check this tomorrow

Endless Sea

2. 00:16:553 (4,1) - suddenly you decide to silence the slider ticks? why you didn't that before, btw the slider-slide sound is annoying as well. You guys can just silence the slider-slide and use 5% volume lines to make the ticks less louder can't make both barely audible, there needs to be feedback on longer sliders
3. from here 00:16:039 (1) - to here 00:36:439 (3) - you should reduce the spacing of the 1/2s (jumps), since the song stay calm at this section, so I don't see any objective reason to have jumps there tbh. to be completely honest i don't even see these as jumps, a map of this star rating could easily have this spacing in a slow section
4. 01:02:668 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - the rhythm here is super random, like I don't see any kind of coherent pattern, you are just placing random circles and repeat sliders, you need to place them better in a more coherent way. as already stated before 00:59:925 - buildup for the rhythm of the triples, followed by 01:02:668 - which is triples into return sliders that is buildup for aim, then the spacing keeps increasing to add even more buildup. All of this is intentional since an unusual rhythm is coming up with varied spacing
5. 01:16:382 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this doesn't fit the music at all, listen again and you will notice that they are triplets, yes there are background secondary beats on every 1/4, but that doesn't justify to put random sliders at all, a proper rhythm would be triplets, you can use a slider in the third beat.
6. 01:17:068 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - same as above, some one may agree with you, but I really don't agree with your current rhythm at all.
7. 01:19:125 (1,2,1,2) - they all basically follow the same rhythm in the song, why they are grouped as 1-2 combos and why some are overlapped while the other ones doesn't? also I don't recomend to use 1/8 jumps at all. yeah changed things above, only kept the 1/8 sliders because there's definitely a sound to follow
8. 01:48:096 (2,3,4) - listen to this part again, this doesn't fit the song at all, is cool to use gimmicks, but pls try to follow the music as close as you can
9. 01:50:839 (2,3,4) - ^ etc
10. 01:53:410 (1,2,3) - 01:54:096 (4,5,6) - ^ if i mapped all sounds it would literally just be a stream only map with no interesting gimmicks, I didn't really feel like mapping a freedom dive or a stream practice map i guess

Natsu wrote:

illl check this tomorrow

Endless Sea

1. 05:18:268 (1) offscreen Does it make it unrankable? i don't really think that it's offscreen because you can play it normally and it touches the bottom just a little. So in my oppinion it doesn't cause a big problem when playing or visually determinating sliders path.
2. 00:05:582 (4) - slider ticks sounds really bad, they doesn't fit the music at all, you can use a 5% volume line there. Changed to 5% so no slider ticks
3. 00:08:325 (4) - same as above ✓
4. 00:11:068 (4) - ^ ✓
5. 00:13:810 (4) - ^ ✓
6. 00:49:810 (6,1) - super nazi, the stack is a bit off I didn't like how it was looking so I remapped this section
7. 00:57:182 (1,2) - this should follow the same pattern as before, since the music is basically the same, I don't see any reason to suddenly change the flow of the map like that, it feels weird and inconsistent Changed so now it follows previous pattern
8. 00:58:896 (3,4) - this doesn't looks nice, 4 looks randomly placed, also the straigh flow 00:58:896 (3,4,1) - isn't good to play, you should think more about those objects placements Reworked
9. 01:21:868 (1,2) - using an extended slider to fit the drum, cool. But why you are ignoring it at 01:22:382 (3) - ? same here 01:24:610 (1,2,3) - I'm not ignoring anything. My first idea was to make first 01:21:868 (1,2) - like 01:22:382 (3) - but then I realized that I want to emphasize 01:22:210 (2) - as it's on strong beat so 01:22:382 (3) - tail is less important imo.
10. 01:33:525 (5) - oh now you aren't ignoring it, where is the consistency? ✓
11. 01:36:096 (3,4,5,6,7) - now there is a random stream ^ ? ✓
12. 01:37:125 (2) - now a single slider ^? ✓
13. 01:31:468 (1,2,3,4) - why are you ignoring the red tick? you basically mapped that sound in all the previous part and now you suddenly ignore it to map a secondary 1/4 beats that aren't noticeable at all OK. Mapped as a triple to emphasize different sounds
14. 01:36:610 (8) - ignoring a strong beat at the red tick to map a bluetick without support from the music ✓
    
    Changed/fixed until here. I have no idea what to do with all these bad visuals. I'll probably remap that again
    
15. 02:06:268 (1,2,1) - stacks are what bother me more about this map, check how this looks in game, is not only bad for the visuals, but also hard to read, this happen basically in all the map and you guys should care about it
16. 02:07:553 (4,5,1) - spacing?
17. 02:11:496 (2,1) - overlapping perfectly half of the slider isn't nice, is hard to read, a manual stack would be better
18. 02:13:039 (4) - when using repeat sliders there are 2 things that you should take in consideration, 1 the click able beat is stronger than the repeat and tail and the 3 beats have the same pitch, your current one doesn't follow any, head and repeat are mapped to strong beats while the tail is mapped to a totally different beat, that's why sounds really bad
19. 02:15:268 (2) - same as above, there are more btw
20. 02:18:525 (4,5,1) - spacing

1. 00:51:525 (3) - This one felt weird to play (movement). I suggest you to place this one here for example https://puu.sh/vep2g/1604b29910.png (x:0 | y:193) If you do this also consider moving 00:51:353 (2) - closer to the slider so 00:51:353 (2,3) - have the same distance to the slider. (just for the sake of makeing it look nicer ;D )
2. 05:35:925 (1,2,3,4) - Also this didn't flow to well. ctrl + h and then stack (1) with the end of 05:35:411 (6) - again. https://puu.sh/vepKA/22f65bb737.png (you may also move 05:36:953 (1) - if you apply this

Zunv wrote:

Hey there,

I noticed two little things while playing

Endless Sea

1. 00:51:525 (3) - This one felt weird to play (movement). I suggest you to place this one here for example https://puu.sh/vep2g/1604b29910.png (x:0 | y:193) If you do this also consider moving 00:51:353 (2) - closer to the slider so 00:51:353 (2,3) - have the same distance to the slider. (just for the sake of makeing it look nicer ;D ) I like the current way I mapped these jumps because they actually create this good flow feeling when playing 00:51:525 (3,1) - but if I choose your proposition, it would require to change 00:51:696 (1) - a little so I rather keep it how it is
2. 05:35:925 (1,2,3,4) - Also this didn't flow to well. ctrl + h and then stack (1) with the end of 05:35:411 (6) - again. https://puu.sh/vepKA/22f65bb737.png (you may also move 05:36:953 (1) - if you apply this I like your idea. Applied.

Anyway, great map besides this!
And sorry i couldn't find more :'D (Im still a noob in all the mapping and modding and stuff. Still hope it helped you)

Good Luck!!

AncuL wrote:

01:44:153 - tbh i'd like this part to empashize on the piano more

CucumberCuc wrote:

Hi :3

01:21:525 (1,1) maybe stream to slider? ney
02:38:668 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) I think it may slightly confuse players, but you can leave i'll leave
02:42:268 NC? hm ok
02:42:953 ^
02:44:153 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) I think it may slightly confuse players, but you can leave
04:04:039 to 04:07:125 - (green TP) don't know why you put them there, and sounds not heard from them it's for the slider, i depends on whether your skin has spinning sound or not

Nice map ^o^

1. 00:59:582 (4,5,6,7) - 04:28:382 (1,2) - just a suggestion for an alternative, since these 1/4 are different from teh previous ones as they are ver chopped and distinct, i'd map them to stand out a bit more, like visually differ. and example would be a low spacing stack like http://puu.sh/vOBYZ/cfd52208bf.jpg (maybe with spaced off end) but there are many other ways to make it stand out.
2. 01:07:468 (3) - on 01:06:439 (5,6) - these the additional sounds on 5 justify having this being different (wouldn't be an issue if they weren't there either i guess), but that lead to 01:07:468 (3) - seeming misplaced, as it has those sounds as well. using singles on it might work a littl better. whether the following notes take a slider instead or are kept as singles works fine either way though.
3. 01:19:125 (1,2,1,2) - it works fine with the simplifications as it is, but i'd find it cooler if you also captured the other rhythm going on here. that one http://puu.sh/vOCfA/ee484c9d9a.jpg
4. 01:36:953 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - just as an idea to introduce the rhythm, to lead the player onto listening to this rhythm instead of the usual, you could start mapping on that instrument with sliders 01:35:582 (1,2,3,4) - here already.
5. 01:39:353 (5,6) - sliders should be on 01:39:181 (3,5) - because of both, the foreground and background pairs of two sounds, there's nothing special on 6
6. 02:06:268 (1) - imo this one doesn't need to be slowed down, it packs the same impact if not more as the two previous sliders and should just be double as long as them, works nicer wisually too imo. also didn't slow down these 02:07:296 (3) - 02:07:296 (3,3) - which are basically the same
7. 02:09:953 (3,4) - 02:15:439 (3,4) - 02:20:925 (3,4) - would make these into a slider because the first one is on a cymbal and making it part of the stack kills the distinction. works the other way around too, but it would be a bit too similar to 02:10:639 (8,9) - i guess, which is a different set
8. 02:27:010 (4,6) - 05:36:611 (6) - are quite clearly not the same. would either recommend to make the first one 2/3 long or pushing the second one 1/3 back (and maybe make it longer or replace it with two notes) to make both of those heavy souns clickable
9. 02:41:582 (2,6,10) - with these placing the snares on slider ends in order to prioritize the electro sounds, it's odd to then suddenly have emphasising the snares over the elecro sounds, even skipping one. a fix would be a rhyrhm like 1/5 slier on 14, note on 15, 1/4 slider on the red tick during 15. with fitting slider speeds and shapes ofc, so probably faster than norm on the first one and slower on the second
10. 02:46:896 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - placing sliders on the drum beats, alright. the notes between them, not so much. only 02:47:153 (2,2) - are actually in the song, the rest of the sounds of the same nature are on slider ends, so it's really weird to play if you want to follow the rhythm instead of just going by metronome, which isn't something you've made the player do previously either with one exception of simplification.
11. 02:56:325 (7,4) - it's fine as it is, but as an idea leaving those out would bring out the kick doubles way more, depending on if you concider that more interestong /important than following the constant 1/2 electro sound, it might be an option
12. 02:58:553 (2) - as an idea this might be worth turning into a 1/4 slider just to avoid confusion. it doesn't really change the movement or takes away of the distinction, preference
13. 04:09:439 (2,3) - it's confusing due to the mix of the electro and kick mapping, 2 is mapped on a synth and 3 ona kick. the synth on the first reverse of 3 is simply skipped, makes it hard to follow a melody, if you skip some of it's parts. i'd recommend sticking to one instrument here or using two notes, though that might increase the density above what you want, so i'd personally go with the synth since it's more interesting thana constant beat. incidents like these occur a few more times during this section
14. 04:18:439 (5,6,1,2) - confusing. you map the 1/4 with the slider and then map a gap between the circles which skips a note f the very same beat. i know you're switching to drums here, but concidering from 04:19:468 (6) - on you use the synth again already it's probably better to just stick to it for that half meassure too, or ofc mix them in a smart way as you did afterwards
15. 04:31:125 (1) - honestly not a fan of this kiai since you just prioritize constant drum beats over the song specific unique electro sounds and even kick pattern like from 04:44:839 (1) - , they get completely overshadowed with skips and emphasis. oh well, not inherently wrong, but imo a shame, entirely subjective.
16. on a little less subjective note, i can't really tell what induces 1/4 timings to be used or not used. like what's the backing of 04:31:810 (1,2,3) - or with what logic are you using the electro 1/4. you skip many of them and whenever you want you just put some 1/4 stuff on them, most of the time blending together with drum kicks in a single curve with no distinction. sometimes they are used with one example being 04:39:095 (4,5,6) - , sometimes not with one example being 04:40:039 (1,2,3) - plenty to be found of both. you handle it better in the first bit of the second kiai half but then revert again, which in of itself also eludes me. maybe i'm just missing something big, so yeah, i really am not able to mod the kiai part in any detail as half the concepts escape my understanding, sorry about that.

[Nemesis] wrote:

hi M4M again

00:39:010 (1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8075613 you might want to fix the storyboard there buddy, same applies to 00:44:496 (1) - 00:47:239 (1) - 00:49:982 (1) - 00:52:725 (1) - and in many different places, maybe remake it once you make sure it's perfect? rip storyboard :/ redownload the map pls

01:14:668 (7) - stack it with 01:15:010 (1) -

01:38:668 (5,1) - those two streams are connected, but those 01:40:039 (5,1) - aren't, I'd personally make it a little more consistent you see i have two pairs here: one is with two streams connected and the second is that both streams start kind of symmetrically 01:39:696 (1) - 01:40:382 (1) -

04:04:039 - that's a lot of unused inherited points, are you sure it's finished? accidentally removed the spinner xd thanks

04:09:182 - I fucking love this. thanks, i kind of felt like this section needs some rework

05:33:010 (3,4) - blanket is one pixel off lol ok

That's all I can really think of, this map is absolutely amazing (you might tell that I'm netpicking but the perfection of this map is the reason for it, I didn't want the mod to be empty)


best of luck from me

Deramok wrote:

for your queue

1. 00:59:582 (4,5,6,7) - 04:28:382 (1,2) - just a suggestion for an alternative, since these 1/4 are different from teh previous ones as they are ver chopped and distinct, i'd map them to stand out a bit more, like visually differ. and example would be a low spacing stack like http://puu.sh/vOBYZ/cfd52208bf.jpg (maybe with spaced off end) but there are many other ways to make it stand out. i don't think it's necessary because i already made a 00:59:582 (4) - ds jump difference to emphasize that part. Alho your suggestion would be kind of hard and unconfortable to play so yeah.. have to nay
2. 01:07:468 (3) - on 01:06:439 (5,6) - these the additional sounds on 5 justify having this being different (wouldn't be an issue if they weren't there either i guess), but that lead to 01:07:468 (3) - seeming misplaced, as it has those sounds as well. using singles on it might work a littl better. whether the following notes take a slider instead or are kept as singles works fine either way though.
3. 01:19:125 (1,2,1,2) - it works fine with the simplifications as it is, but i'd find it cooler if you also captured the other rhythm going on here. that one http://puu.sh/vOCfA/ee484c9d9a.jpg
4. 01:36:953 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - just as an idea to introduce the rhythm, to lead the player onto listening to this rhythm instead of the usual, you could start mapping on that instrument with sliders 01:35:582 (1,2,3,4) - here already. if start differing rhythm patterns at 01:35:582 - can really start confusing players because starting too early isn't right decision, heretofore you can't really tell whether rhythm is changing or not so definitely keeping right timing is the key because 01:36:953 - you can clearly hear the difference
5. 01:39:353 (5,6) - sliders should be on 01:39:181 (3,5) - because of both, the foreground and background pairs of two sounds, there's nothing special on 6 atm ignoring this because i realized that the whole part 01:38:325 - to 01:41:068 - is mapped wrong. so i'll try to tweak it a little with rhythm and aesthetics
6. 02:06:268 (1) - imo this one doesn't need to be slowed down, it packs the same impact if not more as the two previous sliders and should just be double as long as them, works nicer wisually too imo. also didn't slow down these 02:07:296 (3) - 02:07:296 (3,3) - which are basically the same well here you see where comes the spacing issues; visual spacing 02:06:010 (2,1) - is necessary so i increased sv a little and where you say that 02:07:296 (3) - are the same it's actually not because listen to 02:06:268 (1) - here you can hear one beat which i actually equal to two beats 02:07:296 (3,4) - because at first, you can't hear any more kicks coming out but on the other hand, 02:07:296 (3,4) - clearly two kicks so that's why no sv change and mapped differently
7. 02:09:953 (3,4) - 02:15:439 (3,4) - 02:20:925 (3,4) - would make these into a slider because the first one is on a cymbal and making it part of the stack kills the distinction. works the other way around too, but it would be a bit too similar to 02:10:639 (8,9) - i guess, which is a different set hmm well not really because you see 02:10:038 (4,5) - strong sounds coming out and it's a bad decision to make a slider 02:09:953 (3) - which would cover up the strong sound 02:10:038 (4) -
8. 02:27:010 (4,6) - 05:36:611 (6) - are quite clearly not the same. would either recommend to make the first one 2/3 long or pushing the second one 1/3 back (and maybe make it longer or replace it with two notes) to make both of those heavy souns clickable hmmm? 2/3 long? how they're not the same
9. 02:41:582 (2,6,10) - with these placing the snares on slider ends in order to prioritize the electro sounds, it's odd to then suddenly have emphasising the snares over the elecro sounds, even skipping one. a fix would be a rhyrhm like 1/5 slier on 14, note on 15, 1/4 slider on the red tick during 15. with fitting slider speeds and shapes ofc, so probably faster than norm on the first one and slower on the second hmm
10. 02:46:896 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - placing sliders on the drum beats, alright. the notes between them, not so much. only 02:47:153 (2,2) - are actually in the song, the rest of the sounds of the same nature are on slider ends, so it's really weird to play if you want to follow the rhythm instead of just going by metronome, which isn't something you've made the player do previously either with one exception of simplification. it's not going by metronome, actually, there are sounds but they're very quiet so that creates an illusion that it's being mapped wrong; e.g 02:47:153 (2) - very easy to distinguish but suddenly the following 02:47:496 (4) - actually changes the pitch by inconspicuous amount. however exception could be 02:47:839 (2) - because there isn't really a change, just a pitch shift but i think i'll keep it simple here
11. 02:56:325 (7,4) - it's fine as it is, but as an idea leaving those out would bring out the kick doubles way more, depending on if you concider that more interestong /important than following the constant 1/2 electro sound, it might be an option
12. 02:58:553 (2) - as an idea this might be worth turning into a 1/4 slider just to avoid confusion. it doesn't really change the movement or takes away of the distinction, preference
13. 04:09:439 (2,3) - it's confusing due to the mix of the electro and kick mapping, 2 is mapped on a synth and 3 ona kick. the synth on the first reverse of 3 is simply skipped, makes it hard to follow a melody, if you skip some of it's parts. i'd recommend sticking to one instrument here or using two notes, though that might increase the density above what you want, so i'd personally go with the synth since it's more interesting thana constant beat. incidents like these occur a few more times during this section yeah that's me trying to map multiple instruments at the same time lol. i think for now i'll stick with the current version of this rhythm choice. it seems funky to me trying to jump between several instruments. we'll see what bn tell us in the future. if it'll turn out to be very inconsistent at some point and maybe controversial, i'll try out your suggestion
14. 04:18:439 (5,6,1,2) - confusing. you map the 1/4 with the slider and then map a gap between the circles which skips a note f the very same beat. i know you're switching to drums here, but concidering from 04:19:468 (6) - on you use the synth again already it's probably better to just stick to it for that half meassure too, or ofc mix them in a smart way as you did afterwards i dk i'll swap 04:18:782 - with a slider atm
15. 04:31:125 (1) - honestly not a fan of this kiai since you just prioritize constant drum beats over the song specific unique electro sounds and even kick pattern like from 04:44:839 (1) - , they get completely overshadowed with skips and emphasis. oh well, not inherently wrong, but imo a shame, entirely subjective. hmm you're kind of right, however, it'll require to remap the whole section so atm i'll keep how it is
16. on a little less subjective note, i can't really tell what induces 1/4 timings to be used or not used. like what's the backing of 04:31:810 (1,2,3) - or with what logic are you using the electro 1/4. you skip many of them and whenever you want you just put some 1/4 stuff on them, most of the time blending together with drum kicks in a single curve with no distinction. sometimes they are used with one example being 04:39:095 (4,5,6) - , sometimes not with one example being 04:40:039 (1,2,3) - plenty to be found of both. you handle it better in the first bit of the second kiai half but then revert again, which in of itself also eludes me. maybe i'm just missing something big, so yeah, i really am not able to mod the kiai part in any detail as half the concepts escape my understanding, sorry about that.

a lot is nitpicking and the movement aspects i can't really find aynthing off with outside the last kiai be it because it's good as is or because i'm bad with modding movement. so good luck bringing this forward, should be ona good way.

Einja wrote:

The map is amazing.


[Endless Sea]
whoever is doing the storyboard should fix the hit lighting, because for example. This 00:39:010 (1) - and the storyboard flashlight don't follow at all. rip storyboard, redl the map

check aimod, missing file in sb

00:10:553 (1,2,3) - i think these notes are slightly off from the storyboard hit lighting ^

00:19:296 (1,2,3) - stack evenly?

00:26:668 (2,3) - i don't think a jump is necessary, because circle 3 is barely audible. Just stack the notes

00:35:239 (1,2) - good blanket opportunity http://prntscr.com/f7jz9j

01:19:125 (1,2) - you should space these away from 01:19:039 (8) - since it's a downbeat, but that's just a suggestion.

01:27:868 (3,1) - good blanket oppertunity nay, i want to keep spacing consistent here

01:54:096 (1) - NC? ok

02:23:153 (1,3) - overlap these perfectly please yep

02:26:782 (2,3,4,5,6) - I think you should NC all these notes since a completely new rhythm comes in. also it looks nicer c: hmm ok we'll see

02:40:982 (2,3) - These are slightly spaced out more compared to the other 1/4 jumps before it. yeah i moved to the right stack

03:19:125 (1) - I barely noticed that was a curved slider, remove the white tick or curve slider 2. ok

04:43:468 (1,2) - stack each other properly to make good blanket i'll recheck it, maybe i can improve this section

good luck!

FruityEnLoops wrote:

OVERALL DISABLE HIT ANIMATIONS PLEASE I don't use it lol

_Kise

00:05:067 (1,4) - Stack or ignore DS (i fixed ds on following patterns) don't want to stack there
00:07:810 (1,4) - ^
this kind of pattern is just ugly a little bit more of explanation would help.. by the pattern you mean the whole thing or just this particular slider shape because the pattern repeats and i'm not sure what do u mean
00:39:010 (1,1) - stack sliderend with the next slider's head you see here 00:40:725 (1,2,3) - and 00:41:068 (2,3,4) - is a perfect triangle so the slider 00:40:725 (1) - can't be moved. i'll rather change the 00:39:010 (1) - shape a little
00:41:239 (3,1) - not perfect overlap ok
00:44:496 (1,2) - ^ + slider overlaps himself how.. you can clearly read the path
00:49:468 (3,4,5,6,1) - that's an ugly one ok
00:51:696 (1,3,1) - again stacking lul intentional. e.g stacks 00:51:353 (2,3) - and 00:51:353 (2,1) - basically the same as 00:43:810 (2,1) -
00:54:268 (2,2) - ok
01:22:382 (3,1) - s t a c k i n g intentional e.g check 01:27:868 (3,1)
I think you understood what i was talking about with stacking, so just fix everywhere else in the map
01:23:925 (1,2,3,4) - though this kind of stacking is ok
01:31:639 (2,3,4) - not perfect stacked triplet okay
02:26:325 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - why this combo splitting because it's the only part song introduces 1/3 rhythm and it's easier for player to distinguish it so i chose to emphasize it this way

FruityEnLoops wrote:

Here's my mod!
[notice]Hitsounds are too low i think it's fine
OVERALL DISABLE HIT ANIMATIONS PLEASE
you'll see stacking errors better. most stacks are intended manual stacks by kise
I'll split my mod into 2 parts (1/mapper)

xChorse

00:26:153 (5,1,4) - stack
01:04:039 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - instead of finish use a custom clap on the downbeats to really get that impression of loudness doesn't make much of a difference
I think you understood what i was talking about with stacking, so just fix everywhere else in the map idk what you mean xd
02:31:810 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - it's the same kind of loudness as 02:26:325 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - but no weird combo splitting :thinking: first one is my part and the other one isn't, but the NCs are because of the change in rhythm since the notes are in 1/3s
05:11:495 (1,1) - ALMOST STACKED

Einja wrote:

The map is amazing.

[Endless Sea]

00:19:296 (1,2,3) - stack evenly? would be inconsistent with other stacks

00:26:668 (2,3) - i don't think a jump is necessary, because circle 3 is barely audible. Just stack the notes

00:35:239 (1,2) - good blanket opportunity http://prntscr.com/f7jz9j already like 2 blankets in that pattern but they aren't visible, I still want to keep them tho

01:19:125 (1,2) - you should space these away from 01:19:039 (8) - since it's a downbeat, but that's just a suggestion. sliderbreak heaven lol

01:54:096 (1) - NC?

• 
  [chors]

1. 00:18:096 (2,1,2) - whats up with the unintuitive distances? the 1->2 jump was kinda weird, would suggest you just overlap 2 with the 2 before
2. 00:20:153 (3,4) - 00:20:668 (1,2,3) - 00:22:382 (2,3,4) - 00:23:753 (5,6) - i highly discourage low distances in the beginning, considering how mellow the main musical track you're following still is (repeated throughout section)
3. 00:26:496 (1,2,3,4) - dont like the big distances or that 2 and 3 are completely stacked. theres really no reason to stack them since it doesnt make sense with respect to the music and doesnt play very well
4. 00:35:239 (1,2) - suggest shifting 2 lower so it flows from 1 better? there isnt much reason for you to make them flow so awkwardly
   [kise]
5. 00:40:725 (1) - move right and up by 1 pix so it stacks properly
6. 00:41:753 (1) - ngl i think mapping these as long sliders are kinda underwhelming esp since theres so much going on beneath it (repeated throughout section)
7. 00:54:439 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - pretty underwhelming as well, considering its the buildup but the distances between the sliders only decrease
8. 00:59:410 (3,4) - would consider this distance a little too big, even though it flows well, would still suggest you make this smaller or have bigger distances in this section for this to make more sense since the emphasis is too great
   [chors]
9. 00:59:925 (1,2,3,4) - none of these are actually triplets if you were to listen to the song
10. 01:02:668 (1,2,3) - and what is the reason behind adding random triplets when the song doesnt exactly differ in anyway?
11. 01:05:410 (1) - suddenly giving up the triplet structure at such a random spot is kinda jarring, esp when the music sounds basically the same (except that the triplet noises are getting louder)
12. 01:19:468 (2,1) - this jump for a 1/8th feels very trashy to play. suggest stacking or leaving 1/4 spacing instead
13. 01:22:896 (4) - any reason for this special slider at such a boring part of song?
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

Emilia wrote:

[llot of fish]

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1. 00:18:096 (2,1,2) - whats up with the unintuitive distances? the 1->2 jump was kinda weird, would suggest you just overlap 2 with the 2 before piano sounds
2. 00:20:153 (3,4) - 00:20:668 (1,2,3) - 00:22:382 (2,3,4) - 00:23:753 (5,6) - i highly discourage low distances in the beginning, considering how mellow the main musical track you're following still is (repeated throughout section) mellow should equal low spacing tho?
3. 00:26:496 (1,2,3,4) - dont like the big distances or that 2 and 3 are completely stacked. theres really no reason to stack them since it doesnt make sense with respect to the music and doesnt play very well they both follow the same background piano sound and spacing is similar to parts before of the same intensity
4. 00:35:239 (1,2) - suggest shifting 2 lower so it flows from 1 better? there isnt much reason for you to make them flow so awkwardly 00:35:239 (1) - sliderend curves upwards so flow looks fine visually? don't see any difficulty in playing it either
5. 00:59:925 (1,2,3,4) - none of these are actually triplets if you were to listen to the song there definitely are sounds on 01:00:010 - .
   mapping them with 1/4 sliders and a hitcircle would reflect the music better but that would be way too complicated for a part that is essentially used for buildup
6. 01:02:668 (1,2,3) - and what is the reason behind adding random triplets when the song doesnt exactly differ in anyway? triples are like 1/4 return sliders that have more emphasis, which is what i was doing here
7. 01:05:410 (1) - suddenly giving up the triplet structure at such a random spot is kinda jarring, esp when the music sounds basically the same (except that the triplet noises are getting louder) it's the drum/kick sounds that are getting more distinct, 1/4 sounds barely increase in intensity throughout the section
8. 01:19:468 (2,1) - this jump for a 1/8th feels very trashy to play. suggest stacking or leaving 1/4 spacing instead changed
9. 01:22:896 (4) - any reason for this special slider at such a boring part of song? not my part
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
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if this is going for loved im too lazy to mod the rest, its basically just a very boring map

Emilia wrote:

im lazy to split properly
[llot of fish]

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if this is going for loved im too lazy to mod the rest, its basically just a very boring map

Yukiyo wrote:

;) from q w (m4m)


01:31:468 - missing hitsounds? 01:31:725 - 01:31:982 - 01:32:153 - 01:32:410 - bass drums? etc. 01:31:810 - snare Check this! okay
later on you spot the difference between two mappers, that's all.

I'll throw 2 kds for loved xd

Yukiyo wrote:

;) from q w (m4m)

00:33:353 (2,1) - blanket :^) jk kms lol ok?

01:05:410 - why the sudden switch on to 1/2 rhythm? I get that you want to show of the snares on 01:05:410 (1,2) - but honestly they are really inaudiable and the difference in note density is weird. Especially since you are switching to much denser rhythm here yet again 01:09:525 - they are inaudible when at the triple part, and they become louder than the 1/4s after which is why I mapped them seperately

01:45:010 (8,1,2) - this is the only time in this part were wide angle emphasis on downbeats is used not as wide but same idea 01:51:525 (6,9,1) - and 01:55:125 (3,4,5) - even tho its not on downbeat its the same sound

01:43:810 - all in all I find it sad you are not catching the piano in this part at least a little bit but that's your descision if the entire map had all 1/4s mapped it would just be a 175 long stream practice map

02:49:639 - completly throwing over the concept of 02:38:668 - ? this change seems unbalanced af since 02:38:668 (1,2,3) - is harder to play than 02:49:639 (1,2,3) - but htey do cover the same music. different mappers lol

02:52:553 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5) - again this rhythm seems to ignore all the good sounds. the previosu rhythm definetly was better and I advice using it 02:41:410 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - seems like we have a different opinion on good sounds xd

02:59:582 (2,3,4) - NC spam for showing it's 1/2 and not 1/4 at least sure

03:19:810 - again simplicity of this rhythm annoys me 03:20:325 - 03:21:010 - these sounds get totally ignored. http://puu.sh/whT9o/14fd97ad4d.jpg could fix it. the simplicity of the rhythm just follows all sounds, the one you posted would be overmapped since it would be on 2 1/4s that don't have any sounds

I'll throw 2 kds for loved xd

Buzz sliders should have appropriate delay before the next note. 1/8 and 1/16 sliders should be followed by a 1/4 gap, whereas 1/12 sliders should be followed by a 1/6 gap. This ensures that the hit-window between hitobjects is playable.

LimePixel wrote:

-I'm not sure if this is intentionally done, but stacking is somewhat off. Have you turned on stacking in the View menu? manually placed stacks

kawaiikitsun wrote:

keeping 1/8 as it is.