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Arphimigon
I came back after a long time to check up on this map again, and saw:

Desperate-kun wrote:

Literally every BN and QAT were telling you to change the Extended Sliders, so that's what you should do. Even though the vocals are hold, you can't just ignore strong beats in the music and map all sliderends on nothing instead. It is not nice to play at all (because the players are hearing a strong sound earlier than the slider ends) and sounds bad, too.
I agree with this for the most account, however most of the "weird" extended sliders have been ironed out, and mostthe remaining ones feel fine. So sadly I have to disagree with:

Desperate-kun wrote:

Your rhythmic concept is not working at all.
Since it feels pretty nice rhythmically.
Rip vocal sliders.

Remember that time I remade the first 2 mins of the song? Yeah I think that's what the QAT/BNs want. It's very plain and boring, but it is rhythmically simple, however I know there must be a way that both can work together. I can't come up with ideas now, so hit me up at a later time so I can come back to this again.

Good luck yo, I'm still watching.
dqs01733
Well it seems that our super long chatlog from august is still relevant.. didnt even bother posting it at the time since everything got brushed off as "subjective" <.<

SPOILER
2015-08-08 00:20 Slick: hi
2015-08-08 00:20 Kotonoha: hello
2015-08-08 00:21 Slick: right so i apparently need more testplays
2015-08-08 00:21 Slick: could you try my map?
2015-08-08 00:21 Slick: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/731905 Rita - Bookmark Memories [Grimoire]]
2015-08-08 00:21 Kotonoha: okay
2015-08-08 00:22 Kotonoha: it looks pretty difficult so give me 10 minutes to warm up
2015-08-08 00:22 Kotonoha: ill tell you when im playing it
2015-08-08 00:22 Slick: np, thx
2015-08-08 00:23 Kotonoha: is it streamy with a lot of triplets and 5s or jumpy?
2015-08-08 00:24 Slick: jumpy with fast sliders hard to control sliders
2015-08-08 00:24 Slick: and massive diff spikes when the dubstep kicks in
2015-08-08 00:25 Kotonoha: okay ill just play it right away then
2015-08-08 00:30 Slick: holy shit that was close to failing
2015-08-08 00:30 Slick: nice play
2015-08-08 00:31 Kotonoha: i cant do streams and bursts when im not warmed up lol
2015-08-08 00:31 Kotonoha: well the map is pretty decent
2015-08-08 00:31 Kotonoha: it has a lot of spacing issues though
2015-08-08 00:31 Slick: care to point out a few if possible?
2015-08-08 00:32 Kotonoha: the way you play circles after a 3/4 slider are confusing
2015-08-08 00:32 Slick: :?
2015-08-08 00:33 Kotonoha: actually not just 3/4 sliders but extended sliders in general
2015-08-08 00:33 Kotonoha: 00:19:977 (1,2) - this for example
2015-08-08 00:33 Slick: yeah, too high for so early in the song :I
2015-08-08 00:33 Slick: needs nerf
2015-08-08 00:33 Kotonoha: because the slider is so long its kinda hard to make out if its extended or not
2015-08-08 00:34 Slick: lol
2015-08-08 00:34 Kotonoha: usually you can see when its 3/4 slider so you can place next circle further away but this time its not easy to spot
2015-08-08 00:34 Slick: i guess
2015-08-08 00:34 Kotonoha: connecting the two sliders makes it easy to see that its a 1/4 gap between the sliders
2015-08-08 00:34 Kotonoha: spacing is too large is what im getting at
2015-08-08 00:35 Slick: so you're not talking of exact errors
2015-08-08 00:35 Slick: just that in general it's too large?
2015-08-08 00:35 Kotonoha: yes
2015-08-08 00:35 Kotonoha: 00:21:325 (1,2) - these sliders has 1/2 gap and is smaller distance
2015-08-08 00:36 Slick: moving on to kiai
2015-08-08 00:36 Slick: yup easier
2015-08-08 00:36 Kotonoha: also
2015-08-08 00:37 Kotonoha: 00:36:156 (1,2) -
2015-08-08 00:37 Kotonoha: this is the first time ur using an extended slider ending with a circle
2015-08-08 00:37 Slick: 00:24:359 (2,3) -
2015-08-08 00:37 Kotonoha: so youre kinda defining 3/4 slider -> circle to have that spacing
2015-08-08 00:38 Slick: i guess
2015-08-08 00:38 Kotonoha: players are gonna think any larger spacing than that is 1/2
2015-08-08 00:38 Kotonoha: so when this 00:47:448 (2,3) - comes its gonna be mistake as a 1/2 because the spacing is so much larger
2015-08-08 00:38 Slick: i see
2015-08-08 00:39 Slick: but that's a very small if not subjective issue
2015-08-08 00:39 Slick: plays almost like a 1/2 slider
2015-08-08 00:39 Slick: but i understand
2015-08-08 00:39 Slick: and i agree
2015-08-08 00:39 Kotonoha: lol I wouldnt call that subjective
2015-08-08 00:40 Kotonoha: random spacings like that just confuses the player and is not natural to play
2015-08-08 00:40 Kotonoha: 01:04:134 (5,1) -
2015-08-08 00:40 Kotonoha: 01:05:819 (1,2) -
2015-08-08 00:40 Slick: that makes sense
2015-08-08 00:40 Slick: considering the vocal
2015-08-08 00:41 Kotonoha: well the thing is
2015-08-08 00:42 Kotonoha: you can have very varying distances on 1/2 jumps to stress sounds and the player is going to know when its a 1/2
2015-08-08 00:42 Kotonoha: 1/4 is not
2015-08-08 00:42 Slick: really?
2015-08-08 00:42 Kotonoha: yes really
2015-08-08 00:42 Kotonoha: look at any ranked map
2015-08-08 00:42 Kotonoha: never
2015-08-08 00:43 Kotonoha: unless its a 1/4 slider that pretty much behaves like 1/2 circle
2015-08-08 00:44 Kotonoha: 1/4 spacing is almost never bigger than 00:36:156 (1,2) -
2015-08-08 00:44 Kotonoha: and even that is a pretty big stretch
2015-08-08 00:44 Slick: seriously
2015-08-08 00:44 Slick: did not know
2015-08-08 00:44 Kotonoha: usually the circle is stacked
2015-08-08 00:44 Kotonoha: actually no
2015-08-08 00:44 Slick: if it's not bs what you're saying my map is fucked
2015-08-08 00:44 Slick: 04:05:145 (1,2) - lol
2015-08-08 00:44 Kotonoha: like this
2015-08-08 00:44 Kotonoha: http://puu.sh/jthih.jpg
2015-08-08 00:44 Kotonoha: BUT THAT IS ONLY CIRCLE
2015-08-08 00:45 Kotonoha: you can have bigger spacing when its extended slider to another slider
2015-08-08 00:45 Kotonoha: because of slider leniency
2015-08-08 00:45 Slick: 04:05:145 (1,2) - is slider to circle
2015-08-08 00:45 Kotonoha: but not too big, like this 00:19:977 (1,2) -
2015-08-08 00:45 Kotonoha: yeah thats fucking huge
2015-08-08 00:45 Kotonoha: but i mean
2015-08-08 00:46 Kotonoha: there are a lot of these mistakes
2015-08-08 00:46 Slick: plays fine though
2015-08-08 00:46 Slick: don't really see the problem
2015-08-08 00:46 Slick: you hit it
2015-08-08 00:46 Kotonoha: but all you have to do is place them like a did in the picture
2015-08-08 00:46 Slick: you didn't fail there
2015-08-08 00:46 Slick: if hat really interferes with ranking
2015-08-08 00:46 Slick: my map is fucked
2015-08-08 00:46 Slick: cause i play around with that
2015-08-08 00:46 Slick: so much
2015-08-08 00:46 Slick: that*
2015-08-08 00:46 Kotonoha: yeah but I can assure you 100% I read that as 1/2 at first
2015-08-08 00:46 Kotonoha: its easy to fix
2015-08-08 00:47 Kotonoha: you can really go through the map and fix all in 5 minutes
2015-08-08 00:47 Slick: lol no
2015-08-08 00:47 Slick: that would ruin all structure
2015-08-08 00:47 Slick: spacing
2015-08-08 00:47 Kotonoha: and another 10 minutes to rearrange stuff that doesnt play well after you change it
2015-08-08 00:47 Kotonoha: nah
2015-08-08 00:47 Slick: and so much would have to be repatterned
2015-08-08 00:47 Slick: everything kinda link together in this mapw
2015-08-08 00:47 Slick: map
2015-08-08 00:47 Slick: where one change affects another
2015-08-08 00:47 Kotonoha: well its your choice if you wanna change it or not
2015-08-08 00:48 Slick: i will only do it if it interferes with ranking
2015-08-08 00:48 Slick: it might be hard to play
2015-08-08 00:48 Slick: but it just challenges your intuition
2015-08-08 00:49 Slick: but aren't there a few more things
2015-08-08 00:49 Slick: you want to mention
2015-08-08 00:49 Slick: outside those circle after 3/4 sliders
2015-08-08 00:49 Slick: other than*
2015-08-08 00:49 Kotonoha: um
2015-08-08 00:49 Kotonoha: the two wubby parts
2015-08-08 00:49 Slick: they are quite hard yeah
2015-08-08 00:49 Kotonoha: wait
2015-08-08 00:49 Slick: fuck midge and 5eania
2015-08-08 00:50 Slick: xD
2015-08-08 00:50 Kotonoha: its not the quality or anything
2015-08-08 00:50 Kotonoha: the thing is
2015-08-08 00:50 Kotonoha: they are sooooooooo different
2015-08-08 00:50 Kotonoha: i get that theyre two different mappers
2015-08-08 00:50 Kotonoha: different styles
2015-08-08 00:50 Kotonoha: but this is just too much its like theyre mapping two different songs
2015-08-08 00:51 Slick: yeah fuck them
2015-08-08 00:51 Kotonoha: i really like 5eania's part
2015-08-08 00:51 Slick: qat said biggest problem with this would be the dubstep
2015-08-08 00:51 Slick: especially the midge's
2015-08-08 00:51 Kotonoha: its really good and the style fits nicely
2015-08-08 00:51 Kotonoha: but then you play midges part
2015-08-08 00:51 Kotonoha: same exact musing
2015-08-08 00:51 Kotonoha: but stream jumps
2015-08-08 00:51 Slick: haha xDD
2015-08-08 00:51 Kotonoha: huge spacing variation
2015-08-08 00:51 Kotonoha: sv changes
2015-08-08 00:52 Slick: yeah
2015-08-08 00:52 Slick: he abuses slider velocity so badly
2015-08-08 00:52 Kotonoha: jsut to name a few things
2015-08-08 00:52 Slick: like 1,50 --> 0,50
2015-08-08 00:52 Slick: midge's part is going to be a problem
2015-08-08 00:52 Kotonoha: although its kinda messy its pretty ok
2015-08-08 00:52 Kotonoha: the real issue is that it differentiates too much from the rest of the map
2015-08-08 00:53 Slick: yeah someone mentioned that
2015-08-08 00:53 Slick: it is expected of collabs
2015-08-08 00:53 Slick: but this might be too much
2015-08-08 00:53 Kotonoha: like if youre gonna make a collab you should make sure the styles are atleast a bit similar
2015-08-08 00:53 Slick: i do see that but tbh
2015-08-08 00:54 Slick: i think it's stupid when people make collabs
2015-08-08 00:54 Slick: and when you play it
2015-08-08 00:54 Slick: it's like it's mapped by one guy
2015-08-08 00:54 Kotonoha: if not one has to adjust to the others
2015-08-08 00:54 Slick: cause their styles are so generic and normal
2015-08-08 00:54 Kotonoha: yes some are like that
2015-08-08 00:54 Slick: it might be an issue
2015-08-08 00:54 Kotonoha: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/525380 Buta-Otome - Hibikien]
2015-08-08 00:54 Kotonoha: look at tihs collab
2015-08-08 00:54 Slick: i did ask qat about it an they said it is expected of collabs
2015-08-08 00:54 Slick: we'll see i guess
2015-08-08 00:55 Kotonoha: they use the same spacings and sv's and whatnot
2015-08-08 00:55 Slick: EvilElvis
2015-08-08 00:55 Kotonoha: but jsut the way they place their patterns and even slider shapes
2015-08-08 00:55 Kotonoha: makes it easy to know when the mappers are switched
2015-08-08 00:56 Slick: general thoughts on the map?
2015-08-08 00:56 Slick: gotta admit it's pretty intense
2015-08-08 00:57 Kotonoha: do you want me to be completely honest
2015-08-08 00:57 Slick: sure
2015-08-08 00:57 Kotonoha: you wont be able to rank it like this
2015-08-08 00:58 Kotonoha: your fundamentals are pretty ok, could be improved
2015-08-08 00:58 Slick: thought you were gonna say my map was shit or something
2015-08-08 00:58 Kotonoha: the issue is just the style its mapped
2015-08-08 00:58 Slick: what do you mean?
2015-08-08 00:59 Kotonoha: the way you make squiggly sliders so normal
2015-08-08 00:59 Kotonoha: 3/4ths of your sliders are squiggly
2015-08-08 00:59 Kotonoha: no reason
2015-08-08 00:59 Slick: you could say it like this
2015-08-08 01:00 Slick: the map doesn't interfere with ranking
2015-08-08 01:00 Slick: but as a whole
2015-08-08 01:00 Slick: it kinda does
2015-08-08 01:00 Slick: just because of the way it is :I
2015-08-08 01:00 Slick: there isn't much hope for the map
2015-08-08 01:01 Kotonoha: ok so do you want me to say your map isnt working or say its not working and why?
2015-08-08 01:01 Kotonoha: lol
2015-08-08 01:01 Slick: why it isn't working
2015-08-08 01:01 Slick: ofc
2015-08-08 01:01 Kotonoha: no there isnt much hope for this map youre right, but you should listen to what I say carefully and take it with you for your next map you create
2015-08-08 01:02 Kotonoha: just make normal sliders
2015-08-08 01:02 Kotonoha: straight
2015-08-08 01:02 Kotonoha: slightly curved
2015-08-08 01:02 Kotonoha: one red anchor point
2015-08-08 01:02 Kotonoha: common ones
2015-08-08 01:02 Slick: other than that?
2015-08-08 01:02 Kotonoha: and never bust out shit like squiggly or round sliders and stuff unless the music says so
2015-08-08 01:02 Slick: cause you should assume i've been told this 12391203120310823 times before :)
2015-08-08 01:03 Kotonoha: and dont ignore percussion
2015-08-08 01:03 Slick: percussion?
2015-08-08 01:03 Slick: like claps & kicks?
2015-08-08 01:03 Kotonoha: drums
2015-08-08 01:03 Kotonoha: drum beat
2015-08-08 01:03 Kotonoha: 01:07:168 (1) -
2015-08-08 01:03 Slick: i do that a lot throughout the whole map
2015-08-08 01:03 Kotonoha: you did hitsound the ticks
2015-08-08 01:04 Kotonoha: but drum beats should be clickable
2015-08-08 01:04 Kotonoha: yeah you do it a lot and tbh its not good
2015-08-08 01:04 Slick: usually
2015-08-08 01:04 Slick: subjective
2015-08-08 01:04 Kotonoha: lol k
2015-08-08 01:04 Slick: most don't like it i know
2015-08-08 01:05 Slick: but i don't wanna make a map no one gives a second thought
2015-08-08 01:05 Slick: so excessive vocal mapping
2015-08-08 01:05 Slick: and big ass sliders is the way to go
2015-08-08 01:05 Slick: in theory nothing interferes with ranking
2015-08-08 01:05 Kotonoha: you should try to listen to the music and map whats dominating
2015-08-08 01:05 Slick: as far as i know
2015-08-08 01:05 Kotonoha: yesy the vocal is very strong where you made those sliders
2015-08-08 01:05 Kotonoha: but the percussion is still there
2015-08-08 01:06 Kotonoha: and every map today follows the percussion
2015-08-08 01:06 Kotonoha: and they can shift the focus to the vocals or other instruments that take over
2015-08-08 01:06 Kotonoha: while still keeping the percussion mapped
2015-08-08 01:06 Slick: but the still end sliders on the kicks & claps
2015-08-08 01:06 Slick: and such ik
2015-08-08 01:07 Kotonoha: breaking away from the percussions completely isnt good
2015-08-08 01:07 Kotonoha: yes but youre still missing a clap
2015-08-08 01:07 Slick: that's your opinion
2015-08-08 01:07 Slick: quite frankly
2015-08-08 01:07 Kotonoha: okay
2015-08-08 01:08 Slick: idk
2015-08-08 01:08 Slick: i guess most don't like such mapping
2015-08-08 01:09 Slick: it does have 10 favorites =D
2015-08-08 01:20 Kotonoha: well ive already talked about everything that major in your map
2015-08-08 01:20 Slick: pretty subjecive
2015-08-08 01:20 Slick: and aren't issues
2015-08-08 01:20 Slick: as far as i know
2015-08-08 01:20 Slick: that interfere with ranking
2015-08-08 01:21 Kotonoha: well, you wont get much else from me
2015-08-08 01:21 Kotonoha: maybe you can send these chatlogs or tl;dr's to qats or bns and whatnot and see what they think about the stuff i mentioned
2015-08-08 01:21 Slick: i already talked to them about the wobble sliders
2015-08-08 01:21 Slick: can ask about the spacing difference in 3/4 sliders
2015-08-08 01:22 Slick: like slider then circle
2015-08-08 01:22 Slick: then thing you mentioned
2015-08-08 01:45 Slick: talked to irre
2015-08-08 01:46 Slick: told him what you mentioned
2015-08-08 01:46 Slick: said it was fine
2015-08-08 01:46 Kotonoha: well there you go
2015-08-08 01:46 Slick: just that 03:56:381 (1,2,1) - had too large spacing
2015-08-08 01:46 Kotonoha: keep your stuff
2015-08-08 01:46 Slick: 01:58:066 (5,1,2,3,4,1,2) - and follows the voca
2015-08-08 01:46 Slick: vocal
2015-08-08 01:46 Slick: too much
2015-08-08 01:46 Slick: should be mapped otherwise
2015-08-08 01:46 Slick: and that me ignoring claps & kicks isn't a problem
2015-08-08 01:46 Slick: as long as i execute it properly
2015-08-08 01:47 Slick: he actually liked midges part xD
2015-08-08 01:47 Slick: and my massive sliders
2015-08-08 01:47 Kotonoha: good
2015-08-08 01:47 Slick: http://puu.sh/jtkZz.jpg
2015-08-08 01:47 Kotonoha: well midges part is good
2015-08-08 01:48 Slick: you shouldn't speak so confidently, you're still a new mapper
2015-08-08 01:48 Slick: be more humble when you're not certian
2015-08-08 01:48 Kotonoha: nope, these are just my opinions
2015-08-08 01:48 Slick: you said my map wouldn't get ranked
2015-08-08 01:48 Slick: because of the things you mentioned
2015-08-08 01:49 Slick: that there was little to no hope
2015-08-08 01:49 Slick: i guess that was a bald statement?
2015-08-08 01:49 Slick: but i still feel
2015-08-08 01:49 Slick: as a whole the map just doesn't feel good for ranking
2015-08-08 01:49 Kotonoha: I though it was clear that nothing i say is from the qats, bns and this ranking system view
2015-08-08 01:50 Kotonoha: im just a regular mapper
2015-08-08 01:50 Kotonoha: im sorry if i came across wrong
2015-08-08 01:50 Slick: you asked me " do you want me to be compltetly honest?"
2015-08-08 01:50 Slick: i said yes
2015-08-08 01:50 Slick: and you said it wouldn't get ranked
2015-08-08 01:51 Kotonoha: yes I shouldnt have phrased it like that "you can't get it ranked like this"
2015-08-08 01:51 Kotonoha: its more like "I dont think you can rank it like this"
2015-08-08 01:53 Slick: "think", that would be based on logic or information which it clearly it wasn't
2015-08-08 01:53 Slick: more like " i'm not sure but you might wanna check if it's okay to have inconsistent spacing with circles after 3/4 sliders"
2015-08-08 01:54 Slick: he even said the one that was extremely big
2015-08-08 01:54 Slick: 04:05:145 (1,2) - this
2015-08-08 01:54 Slick: that it was okay
2015-08-08 01:55 Kotonoha: lets not be so pedantic lol
2015-08-08 01:56 Kotonoha: i still stand by my opinion i had since I first played the map
2015-08-08 01:56 Kotonoha: my opinions
2015-08-08 01:56 Kotonoha: instead of arguing with me about why my opinions are wrong you can prove me wrong by ranking the map
2015-08-08 01:57 Slick: so you still think my map is unrankable because of my incosistent spacing with circles after 3/4 sliders
2015-08-08 01:57 Slick: lol
2015-08-08 01:57 Kotonoha: have i stressed enough how everything is just opinion?
2015-08-08 01:57 Kotonoha: yes
2015-08-08 01:57 Slick: well might be
2015-08-08 01:57 Slick: i can see it for me
2015-08-08 01:57 Slick: something like that on the DQ
2015-08-08 01:58 Slick: no
2015-08-08 01:58 Slick: it wouldn't be that it's inconsistent
2015-08-08 01:58 Slick: just that it doesn't corrospond to the music
2015-08-08 01:59 Slick: inconsistent spacing between 3/4 sliders isn't a problem as long as it corrosponds to music
2015-08-08 01:59 Slick: why else would irre say it was okay

Still love 5eania's part tho
Beomsan
wake up!
www
PatZar
sup slick, don't kd this, i don't even know how to mod std, but i want to know about 03:12:308 (1,1,1) - that 03:12:477 (1,1) - is too rush imo,
despo emng kek gitu cacad

and also, make this short 04:59:331 (1) - to 05:03:123 or 05:01:774 -
-Atri-
Talked to slick, but there's nothing to fix so plz don't blame me lol

RIP 5eania

  1. "e_yuu0801.png" is a little bit NSFW but i think he's gonna change it
[Slick]
  1. 02:29:415 - to 02:55:538 - , Reduce SV because having same SV (as other parts of the song) in calm parts doesn't fit imo
  2. Also in 02:29:415 - to 02:55:538 - Although you muted the slider end on some sliders, I think it's a little bit weird about those notes after 3/4 sliders like 02:40:875 (2,3) - and 02:45:595 (1,2) - , i think it's much better if it's a 1/1 slider
[Midge-sen- okno]
  1. 04:15:932 (1,1,1,1,1) - Interesting slider pattern, but the thing that caught my attention is those distance are getting further, which is kinda weird imo because those sound doesn't get any stronger each note, although the pitch at the electronic sounds slightly goes higher but it doesn't strong enough to emphasize that much ( 04:16:437 (1,1) - Are acceptable since they got claps)
  2. 04:26:718 (1,1,1,1,1) - ^

If you want to, you can tell me to map those calm parts like 02:29:415 - to 02:55:538 - and 04:34:808 - to outro lol
-Atri-
A little correction on my mod, no kd:

@midge 04:15:932 (1,1,1,1,1) -



I forgot to put 04:17:280 (2) - further to emphasize the finish but nvm
-Atri-
When this Skystar0108 map getting ranked
Topic Starter
Slick

KuranteMelodii wrote:

When this Skystar0108 map getting ranked
When you stop being a Chinkerbell
Arphimigon
Good question though.
Whens next update!?
Topic Starter
Slick

Arphimigon wrote:

Good question though.
Whens next update!?
Soon
WingSilent
+1 Star :3

I would have modded this map, but to me, it's already enough modded and should be ranked by now. Why BN's aren't ranking this yet ? ;w;
This is the sign of "this map is awesome!" :)
30201102
Hi Slick: your storyboard causes combo flashes to be really bright on any dim level besides 100%. By combo flashes, I mean the default flashes of light that pop up at 30, 60, 100, and every 50 combos afterwards, which cannot be disabled in the settings. I don't know if this is being done intentionally, as I don't see it stated explicitly in the .osb anywhere, but it is very hard on the eyes (for me at least). You might have not noticed this because it's less apparent on lower dim levels and the editor defaults at 0% dim. Here are 2 short videos that demonstrate this:

storyboard ENABLED, storyboard DISABLED

Both recordings are at 90% dim and the flashes at 30 and 60 combos are barely noticeable with SB disabled, but bright and jarring when enabled, and although I am using a custom skin, this occurs for all skins including the default. I have also noticed this on other storyboarded maps using white.jpg (such as this one) so I'm not sure if it's intentional of some sort of bug.

Great map otherwise, I like the sliders :)
Juris
http://puu.sh/m92r0/50e636cab6.jpg

I feel I like this map. I don't see any playability issues except for in the dubstep parts, where its more about reading issues of players. I like the slider velocity and many of the placements. Feel free to point out your issues to me and i'll examine what you've put forwards, but just know for me I can play most of the map fine.

However, there are a few issues I would like to address from a playability standpoint:

03:44:078 - 04:09:696 - between these two points, I had issues with some of the circle placements. The sliders placements are fine, but the placements in conjunction with the circle beats made it feel like jumping rabbit style. I think you should try placing each circle maybe 4-5 places closer in the tiny grid. Reasoning being is that I feel it breaks the flow a bit having the placed so far apart like they are now.

04:29:246 (3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - the flow to this seems broken somehow. I suggest that midge keeps playing around with circle placements for this.

04:18:460 (1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - not everybody is cookiezi, this spacing sucks

04:30:763 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - the jumps here are really far apart and break flow i feel, put the vertical jumps closer together.

that is all, good luck, I really like the map

edit: 5th retry :D http://puu.sh/m93Aj/e952c295b9.jpg
Charles445
[Storyboard]
_________10.png is a large file for a storyboard element, you should convert it to a JPG (should end up being around 300kb)
_________16.png is a large file for a storyboard element, you should convert it to a JPG (should end up being around 300kb)
e_sub0301.png is a large file for a storyboard element, you should convert it to a JPG (should end up being around 400kb)
e_ter0101.png is a large file for a storyboard element, you should convert it to a JPG (should end up being around 300kb)
e_yuu0801.png is a large file for a storyboard element, you should convert it to a JPG (should end up being around 300kb)
s_yuuc001.png is a large file for a storyboard element, you should convert it to a JPG (should end up being around 400kb)

Since you're fitting some 4:3 backgrounds to a 16:9 storyboard resolution, the top and bottom halves of some images are cut off.
These images are _________10, _________16, e_ter0101, and e_yuu0801. You can save space on them if you cut off the top and bottom of them equally, resizing them to 1024 x 576

[General]
e_yuu1402.png is the main background file, but it's 1024x768. In the actual storyboard, it's scaled to fit 1366x768, and so it completely cuts off the guy in the background.
You might want to add a width extension to it like s_yuuc001 so other parts of the picture aren't cut off.
Also, it'd be a good idea to save it as JPG to save size.

[Grimoire]

--- Slick ---

00:04:724 (5) - This isn't really pronounced in the music, it feels weird to have to press this object. I'd delete this and move the 6 slider somewhere else.
00:07:420 (5) - Again this doesn't really fit, also the stream is a lot slower paced than the slider before it so it feels a bit clunky.
00:10:117 (5) - Same as before
00:10:538 (1) - Move this to the bottom left corner of the screen, this will give it more impact and increase the distance from 1 to 2 for better readability -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256346
00:13:151 (3) - Nothing really here in the music.
00:16:269 (3) - I'd move this up and to the left, so 2 to 3 is a jump at a sharp angle. Try x: 160 y:116 -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256356
00:19:977 (1) - End this on the white tick like the slider at 00:21:325 (1) - . Sounds / feels better.
00:42:561 (4) - Rotate this by selection center clockwise 50 degrees. Better angle for it. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256370
00:48:881 (4) - I can kinda hear this, but not too well... I think this circle would be best avoided.
00:49:555 (8) - I really can't hear this one. I'd remove this circle.
00:50:482 (4,5) - I'd swap places for these two. It keeps the angle changes going. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256417
00:55:033 (1) - This slider isn't moving up fast enough to make this smooth gameplay, I think you should loosen up the red points at the beginning -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256423
00:56:802 (2) - Doesn't quite fit, there's a sound at 00:56:634 - and 00:56:971 - but not 00:56:802.
00:57:561 (7,1) - This is a large jump from left to right, but the slider right after is moving to the left... this is going to cause a lot of unfair breaks. It'd be easier if the slider started moving to the right, and then curved to the left somehow... -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256443
01:00:932 (3,4,5) - Rotate selection center anti-clockwise 15 degrees. Better angle coming from 2 and into 6. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256457
01:27:392 (1,2) - The (2) slider should start at 01:27:898 - instead. -> http://puu.sh/mhgc6/3154d1897e.jpg
01:39:190 (1,2,3) - This is pretty awkward to play. Try moving 2 to x: 168 y:292
01:44:078 (1,2,3,4) - I think having the stream after it be 5 long instead of 3 long would be more intuitive... -> http://puu.sh/mhgB8/baab1bf765.jpg
01:45:595 (3,4) - It feels weird moving to the left on this slider. Maybe point the 3 slider down and to the left? -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256493
01:47:111 (3,4) - Instead of the 4 moving down and to the right, it'd be more comfortable if it moved a little up and to the right... try something like this -> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256494
01:53:010 (1,2) - I recommend repositioning these so the 2 is a little above the 3's start. Something like this -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256496
01:54:359 (1) - Move this lower and rotate it a little bit clockwise. -> I used 32 degrees for this picture -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256502
02:00:763 (3,4,5,1) - Player is going to be basically moving straight from 3 to the 1... I'd make the 451 stream either perfectly straight or curving downwards -> http://puu.sh/mhh6v/d27730bb08.jpg
02:03:460 (6,1) - The (1) slider is too far away and at a bad angle. Try something like this -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256513
02:10:033 (3,1) - The slider's angle doesn't fit the previous movement too well. Try a shape that starts more diagonally, something like this -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256539
02:12:898 (1,2,3,4) - This movement is pretty awkward, especially the 2 to 3. Moving 2 and 3 around can fix the problem -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256549
02:15:595 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is really awkward movement, a lot of people are going to be uncomfortable starting the stream. I think if it's kept moving up and down, while slowly moving to the left, it'll be more intuitive. Here's an example -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256561
02:20:482 (3,4,5) - Rotate selection anti-clockwise 20 degrees. Better angle for the stream. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256571
02:23:095 (2) - I can't hear the instrument this is based on in the music. You should probably remove this circle to be safe.
02:25:201 (6,1) - This angle is pretty rough, movement is up and to the left, so moving so strongly to the right is going to cause a lot of breaks. Try starting going up and to the left, then curving into the right. Something like this (don't make it this ugly though haha) -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256606

--- 5EANIA ---

02:56:887 (1) - Remove new combo. It'll be obvious that this is a fast moving slider because of the next object, so there's no need to hint at it.
02:57:392 (1) - You don't really need this new combo.
02:58:404 (6,7) - Too big a jump, too easy to sliderbreak. Try pointing the 6 more to the right, and starting it a little bit farther away from the 5. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256620
02:58:572 (7) - No need to extend this to 1/8, will just make people upset. Instead change the slider velocity at 02:58:572 - to 1.5x. It'll be basically the same, just less likely to cause slider breaks.
02:59:583 (1,2) - Swap these new combos. It'll match up with what happened previously.
03:01:522 (1) - Remove new combo, it's excessive and makes this part a bit tricky to read.
03:02:280 (3) - This is basically a free sliderbreak... This being a slider isn't terribly important, I'd recommend just having it be a circle so the player can focus their time getting to the very important 1/8 slider. If you absolutely must have it be a slider, point it more to the right so it's moving both up and to the right.
03:02:954 (2) - Move this more to the left and a little more up, so the jump into the next combo isn't so huge. You might want to move the previous slider a bit as well. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256632
03:02:448 (4,1) - Consider swapping these new combos. It'll be more like the previous stuff that way.
03:05:145 (4,1) - Swap these new combos. This is very important for readability.
03:05:735 (1,2) - Swap these new combos. Same reason as above.
03:05:988 (1) - Remove this new combo, it'll be unneeded if the previous two combo things are applied (which they should be, haha).
03:07:842 (3,1) - I'd swap these new combos, then add a new combo at 03:08:516 (3) -
03:10:370 (3) - See usually here you would have some object starting at 03:10:538 - with a new combo on it, so this slider is really, really out of place. I'd redo this section to have something that's starting at 03:10:538 - .
03:12:308 (1) - Excessive new combo
03:12:477 (1) - Excessive new combo, removing this one will also make this part easier to read.
03:14:583 - Ending a slider on the big beat again is inconsistent and hard to read. Something like this would be more readable and maintain the uh, edgy circle stream jump thing you had going on before. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256824
This is a bit of a readability hazard though, so you could always go for the safer route -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4264123
03:15:763 (3) - Pretty weak, but I guess that's the point since it's slowing down for the next section.

--- Slick ---

03:22:168 (2,3) - Movement from 2 to 3 is going down and to the left, but the 3 is moving down and to the right at first. It'd be less awkward to play if the slider started by moving down and to the left. Here's an example of a possibility -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4264167
03:33:965 (1,2) - It makes sense why you're doing this, but it's still weird spacing. It's easy to read and not a real problem but I can see someone complaining about it down the line.
03:36:493 (3,1) - Again the slider would be best catching the movement from the 3. A similar fix like at 03:22:168 would be great.
03:42:224 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Really underwhelming to just have simple streams for this transition. The angles they are at don't play very well either, I recommend trying something different with this transition.
03:45:932 (5,1,2) - From 5's end to 1 to 2, it's basically a straight line of varying speed. Changing speed in the same direction is really hard to do, and is far less fun than changing speed while also changing angle. Fortunately this issue can be avoided by moving the 2 up somewhere, and having it pointed away from 1. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4264250
03:50:314 (1,2) - Playing this doesn't feel quite right to play. I think it'd work better if the 2 was either pointed more downwards, or more away from the 1. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4264260 or -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4264262
03:52:842 (7,1) - This jump feels a little too big.
03:56:381 (3,4) - This is a risky slider stream jump. I expect most people would break on the 3 since it's so far away from the 4. I'd make this less of a jump, and reconsider the angle 3 ends at.
03:56:718 (4,1) - Again, same thing as before.
03:58:404 (1) - Rotate by selection center anticlockwise 23 degrees. It creates a better angle coming from the previous circle. Also consider moving the slider end up a little bit. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4264282
04:02:954 (3,4) - Really weird angle here. I think this would work better if the 3 ended more to the right. Moving the (2) is also a good idea. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4264288
04:03:797 (1,2,3) - This has the same problem as at 03:45:932 - where it's going in the same direction, but changing speed erratically. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4264300
04:05:482 (2,3) - This jump is huge! Really needs to be smaller.
04:08:347 (3) - This would feel a bit better if it moved less up at first and more to the right. Rotating it clockwise should help. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4264308

--- Midge ---

04:12:392 (3) - Move this up and to the right so the angle going into 4 is more smooth. Try x:440 y:240
04:13:235 - In 5eania's portion of the map, there is a click here. Having this a slider end will be incredibly weird to play. Chances are the player will assume the 2 is on the big white tick and not hesitate to press it way too early.
04:13:572 - Again this is very strange to have this be a slider end, it really shouldn't be.
04:14:246 - In the 5eania part there is a slider start here. While there isn't that same sample in the music in this later part, it'd still be way more intuitive to have a new slider start here. It wouldn't be overmapping either, there is a sample starting at this part, just not the same one as before.
04:15:257 - Again, slider ends for the biggest beats in the entire part are no good. This needs to be a circle or a slider start. Refer to 5eania's part if you need to.
04:15:510 - Missed beat here, a circle or something would be a good idea, especially since it's done previously in the map.
04:17:196 (1,2) - Swap these new combos.
04:17:954 (1) - Reverse this slider and move it a bit down and to the left. It makes the pattern play way better. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4264436
04:18:628 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Streams that change speed during them are quite tricky to do. This one doesn't work for a couple of reasons, the first being that it angle changes far too heavily during itself, the second being the spacing changes too radically by the end of it, the third being it overlaps on top of each other poorly making it hard to tell what circle is where. This entire stream should be redone, and a good idea would be to mimic the idea 5eania had earlier on, at 03:03:123 -
04:21:831 (1) - This moves too slowly. The speed the player needs to reach the next note is very high, and will likely cause slider breaks. The faster this slider moves, the less likely the player will break on it, as the distance between the two objects will be smaller.
04:21:999 (1,1,1,1) - This is incredibly awkward to play. It's a readability mess and it's significantly changing speed in the same direction. Just about anything else put here would be better than this. Like, make a triangle or something -> http://puu.sh/miGZy/3728dbd55f.jpg or like varied spacing http://puu.sh/miH1U/65cb9d50f2.jpg seriously ANYTHING ELSE would be better
04:24:022 (1,2,1) - Isn't fun / interesting, just comes off as pretentious. Just do this as a normal stream, the third circle in the stream doesn't have significantly stronger emphasis to warrant this sort of spacing change.
04:24:527 (3,1) - This slider stream jump is pretty large... Might want to tone it down a bit.
04:24:696 (1,1,1) - The two circular sliders should be a bit closer. Their angles are good, but they are just too far away.
04:25:370 (1,2,3,4,5) - Bad stream angle / slider angle. 1 is moving to the left, then 2 is moving to the right really quickly, so after 2 the player is basically moving insanely fast to the right. The stream however is lower for some reason, pointing upwards, and spaced out... that isn't how the player would be moving at all, that's no good. Make the stream go to the right and start to the right, or avoid a spaced stream entirely and have it a stack to the right.
04:26:550 (4,1) - Okay at this point it seems like you're just trying to sliderbreak people for no good reason
04:27:477 (1,1,2) - This is almost supportive of movement, the circle just needs to be moved up and to the right a little bit.
04:27:814 (2,1,2) - The last slider here isn't really following the movement coming off of the circle. The player is seriously moving quickly after they hit that 1 circle, so support that movement by pointing the last slider down and to the right.
04:29:415 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - This doesn't fit the theme of the set, plays poorly and is hard to read. I assume it's become like a sort of inside joke between y'all but it's really going to guarantee this set goes nowhere. This reduces the set's small chance to complete zero with its inclusion.
04:32:786 (1,1,1) - After playing the first slider here, the player will probably be wanting to be moving downwards, not back up. Try reversing the second slider and placing it below some. -> http://puu.sh/miHuf/70ecfa5f42.jpg

Basically you're going way too hard on the gimmicks, this is 4 minutes into an approval map, this is no time to be screwing around.
The best thing you can do here would be to re-map this section, and map your part to fit the themes 5eania set down.

--- ------------------- ---

Huh, guess that's everything.
Good luck with this.
semaphore

Charles445 wrote:

<large post>
now THATS a mod
-Tochi
Here's ur new BG you requested to make widescreen :D
Good luck with the map! <3

http://puu.sh/mjzsf/5100f5bba9.jpg
Topic Starter
Slick
Amazing job -Tochi!
Thank you so much
Topic Starter
Slick

Charles445 wrote:

[Storyboard]
_________10.png is a large file for a storyboard element, you should convert it to a JPG (should end up being around 300kb)
_________16.png is a large file for a storyboard element, you should convert it to a JPG (should end up being around 300kb)
e_sub0301.png is a large file for a storyboard element, you should convert it to a JPG (should end up being around 400kb)
e_ter0101.png is a large file for a storyboard element, you should convert it to a JPG (should end up being around 300kb)
e_yuu0801.png is a large file for a storyboard element, you should convert it to a JPG (should end up being around 300kb)
s_yuuc001.png is a large file for a storyboard element, you should convert it to a JPG (should end up being around 400kb)

Since you're fitting some 4:3 backgrounds to a 16:9 storyboard resolution, the top and bottom halves of some images are cut off.
These images are _________10, _________16, e_ter0101, and e_yuu0801. You can save space on them if you cut off the top and bottom of them equally, resizing them to 1024 x 576

[General]
e_yuu1402.png is the main background file, but it's 1024x768. In the actual storyboard, it's scaled to fit 1366x768, and so it completely cuts off the guy in the background.
You might want to add a width extension to it like s_yuuc001 so other parts of the picture aren't cut off.
Also, it'd be a good idea to save it as JPG to save size.
all this above should be fixed

[Grimoire]

--- Slick ---

00:04:724 (5) - This isn't really pronounced in the music, it feels weird to have to press this object. I'd delete this and move the 6 slider somewhere else.fixed
00:07:420 (5) - Again this doesn't really fit, also the stream is a lot slower paced than the slider before it so it feels a bit clunky.fixed
00:10:117 (5) - Same as beforefixed
00:10:538 (1) - Move this to the bottom left corner of the screen, this will give it more impact and increase the distance from 1 to 2 for better readability -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256346 made it better another way
00:13:151 (3) - Nothing really here in the music. fixed
00:16:269 (3) - I'd move this up and to the left, so 2 to 3 is a jump at a sharp angle. Try x: 160 y:116 -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256356 fixed
00:19:977 (1) - End this on the white tick like the slider at 00:21:325 (1) - . Sounds / feels better. fixed
00:42:561 (4) - Rotate this by selection center clockwise 50 degrees. Better angle for it. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256370 fixed
00:48:881 (4) - I can kinda hear this, but not too well... I think this circle would be best avoided. i can hear this but i wouldn't mind removing it if you really think i should
00:49:555 (8) - I really can't hear this one. I'd remove this circle. fixed
00:50:482 (4,5) - I'd swap places for these two. It keeps the angle changes going. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256417 fixed
00:55:033 (1) - This slider isn't moving up fast enough to make this smooth gameplay, I think you should loosen up the red points at the beginning -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256423 fixed
00:56:802 (2) - Doesn't quite fit, there's a sound at 00:56:634 - and 00:56:971 - but not 00:56:802. it's overmapped but if i removed it i would have to refurnish the following jumps and i can't think of anything good. i'll look into it though
00:57:561 (7,1) - This is a large jump from left to right, but the slider right after is moving to the left... this is going to cause a lot of unfair breaks. It'd be easier if the slider started moving to the right, and then curved to the left somehow... -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256443 yeah that would compliment (7) more but i'd lose the nice wobble shape for the vocal, i don't think the flow is too harsh, i'd prefer to keep.
01:00:932 (3,4,5) - Rotate selection center anti-clockwise 15 degrees. Better angle coming from 2 and into 6. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256457 fixed
01:27:392 (1,2) - The (2) slider should start at 01:27:898 - instead. -> http://puu.sh/mhgc6/3154d1897e.jpg wow nice catch, fixed
01:39:190 (1,2,3) - This is pretty awkward to play. Try moving 2 to x: 168 y:292 fixed
01:44:078 (1,2,3,4) - I think having the stream after it be 5 long instead of 3 long would be more intuitive... -> http://puu.sh/mhgB8/baab1bf765.jpg wouldn't it make 01:44:499 - overmapped, i want to focus on the violin here so i'd prefer to keep it as it is
01:45:595 (3,4) - It feels weird moving to the left on this slider. Maybe point the 3 slider down and to the left? -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256493 fixed
01:47:111 (3,4) - Instead of the 4 moving down and to the right, it'd be more comfortable if it moved a little up and to the right... try something like this -> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256494 changed 01:47:617 (1) - instead to compliment 01:47:280 (4) -
01:53:010 (1,2) - I recommend repositioning these so the 2 is a little above the 3's start. Something like this -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256496 fixed
01:54:359 (1) - Move this lower and rotate it a little bit clockwise. -> I used 32 degrees for this picture -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256502 fixed
02:00:763 (3,4,5,1) - Player is going to be basically moving straight from 3 to the 1... I'd make the 451 stream either perfectly straight or curving downwards -> http://puu.sh/mhh6v/d27730bb08.jpg fixed
02:03:460 (6,1) - The (1) slider is too far away and at a bad angle. Try something like this -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256513 fixed
02:10:033 (3,1) - The slider's angle doesn't fit the previous movement too well. Try a shape that starts more diagonally, something like this -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256539 fixed
02:12:898 (1,2,3,4) - This movement is pretty awkward, especially the 2 to 3. Moving 2 and 3 around can fix the problem -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256549 fixed
02:15:595 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is really awkward movement, a lot of people are going to be uncomfortable starting the stream. I think if it's kept moving up and down, while slowly moving to the left, it'll be more intuitive. Here's an example -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256561 fixed
02:20:482 (3,4,5) - Rotate selection anti-clockwise 20 degrees. Better angle for the stream. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256571 fixed
02:23:095 (2) - I can't hear the instrument this is based on in the music. You should probably remove this circle to be safe. it's overmapped, if i remove it i have to refurnish the following jumps and it's hard for me to make it good, i'll look into it though
02:25:201 (6,1) - This angle is pretty rough, movement is up and to the left, so moving so strongly to the right is going to cause a lot of breaks. Try starting going up and to the left, then curving into the right. Something like this (don't make it this ugly though haha) -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256606same reason as the first time you mentioned it, i'd prefer to keep the wobble shape, i'll try to make it play better

03:22:168 (2,3) - Movement from 2 to 3 is going down and to the left, but the 3 is moving down and to the right at first. It'd be less awkward to play if the slider started by moving down and to the left. Here's an example of a possibility -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4264167 fixed
03:33:965 (1,2) - It makes sense why you're doing this, but it's still weird spacing. It's easy to read and not a real problem but I can see someone complaining about it down the line. when this happens i think using either really low spacing or high spacing works
03:36:493 (3,1) - Again the slider would be best catching the movement from the 3. A similar fix like at 03:22:168 would be great. should play better now
03:42:224 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Really underwhelming to just have simple streams for this transition. The angles they are at don't play very well either, I recommend trying something different with this transition. made it different, hopefully it's better
03:45:932 (5,1,2) - From 5's end to 1 to 2, it's basically a straight line of varying speed. Changing speed in the same direction is really hard to do, and is far less fun than changing speed while also changing angle. Fortunately this issue can be avoided by moving the 2 up somewhere, and having it pointed away from 1. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4264250 fixed
03:50:314 (1,2) - Playing this doesn't feel quite right to play. I think it'd work better if the 2 was either pointed more downwards, or more away from the 1. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4264260 or -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4264262 lowered it a bit
03:52:842 (7,1) - This jump feels a little too big. i'll look into it
03:56:381 (3,4) - This is a risky slider stream jump. I expect most people would break on the 3 since it's so far away from the 4. I'd make this less of a jump, and reconsider the angle 3 ends at. made it play better
03:56:718 (4,1) - Again, same thing as before. move it a little bit to the right
03:58:404 (1) - Rotate by selection center anticlockwise 23 degrees. It creates a better angle coming from the previous circle. Also consider moving the slider end up a little bit. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4264282 fixed
04:02:954 (3,4) - Really weird angle here. I think this would work better if the 3 ended more to the right. Moving the (2) is also a good idea. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4264288 fixed
04:03:797 (1,2,3) - This has the same problem as at 03:45:932 - where it's going in the same direction, but changing speed erratically. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4264300 fixed
04:05:482 (2,3) - This jump is huge! Really needs to be smaller. yeah, can't think of anything right now..
04:08:347 (3) - This would feel a bit better if it moved less up at first and more to the right. Rotating it clockwise should help. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4264308 fixed
fantastic mod! thanks charles445
Topic Starter
Slick

5eania wrote:

Charles445 wrote:

[Grimoire]
--- 5EANIA ---

02:56:887 (1) - Remove new combo. It'll be obvious that this is a fast moving slider because of the next object, so there's no need to hint at it. ac
02:57:392 (1) - You don't really need this new combo. ac
02:58:404 (6,7) - Too big a jump, too easy to sliderbreak. Try pointing the 6 more to the right, and starting it a little bit farther away from the 5. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256620 ac
02:58:572 (7) - No need to extend this to 1/8, will just make people upset. Instead change the slider velocity at 02:58:572 - to 1.5x. It'll be basically the same, just less likely to cause slider breaks. ac
02:59:583 (1,2) - Swap these new combos. It'll match up with what happened previously. ac
03:01:522 (1) - Remove new combo, it's excessive and makes this part a bit tricky to read. ac
03:02:280 (3) - This is basically a free sliderbreak... This being a slider isn't terribly important, I'd recommend just having it be a circle so the player can focus their time getting to the very important 1/8 slider. If you absolutely must have it be a slider, point it more to the right so it's moving both up and to the right. dn: well... idk, but i think it's not bad...
03:02:954 (2) - Move this more to the left and a little more up, so the jump into the next combo isn't so huge. You might want to move the previous slider a bit as well. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256632 ac
03:02:448 (4,1) - Consider swapping these new combos. It'll be more like the previous stuff that way. ac
03:05:145 (4,1) - Swap these new combos. This is very important for readability. ac
03:05:735 (1,2) - Swap these new combos. Same reason as above. ac
03:05:988 (1) - Remove this new combo, it'll be unneeded if the previous two combo things are applied (which they should be, haha). ac
03:07:842 (3,1) - I'd swap these new combos, then add a new combo at 03:08:516 (3) - ac
03:10:370 (3) - See usually here you would have some object starting at 03:10:538 - with a new combo on it, so this slider is really, really out of place. I'd redo this section to have something that's starting at 03:10:538 - . ac
03:12:308 (1) - Excessive new combo ac
03:12:477 (1) - Excessive new combo, removing this one will also make this part easier to read. ac
03:14:583 - Ending a slider on the big beat again is inconsistent and hard to read. Something like this would be more readable and maintain the uh, edgy circle stream jump thing you had going on before. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4256824 ac
This is a bit of a readability hazard though, so you could always go for the safer route -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4264123 ac
03:15:763 (3) - Pretty weak, but I guess that's the point since it's slowing down for the next section. ac
Misure
Hello here, random mod here :D
[Grimoire]
  1. 00:02:111 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - like this? for flow and blanket
  2. 00:05:988 (4) - 36|112?
  3. 00:10:538 (1,2) - stack? kinda close for me
  4. 00:18:460 (1,2) - blanket?
  5. 00:19:640 (5) - ctrl+G better for me, for flow
  6. 00:23:684 (4) - 104|112?
  7. 00:26:718 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - like this? for flow, just move 1 and rotate 234
  8. 00:51:662 (3,4) - and 00:52:336 (1,2) - embarrassing for me, as distance
  9. 01:01:606 (9) - change to a 1/4 slider which have no volume at tail?
  10. 01:19:302 (1) - the same shape like 01:18:460 (3) - ? I mean copy and paste ;)
  11. 01:29:078 (1) - like this? I really like stack at tail of a high speed slider when there is an empty beat
  12. 01:31:100 (3,1) - no good the same flow, how about like this?
  13. 02:05:482 (2,3) - this blanket is really off, btw I think you'd better fix some other blankets which are off
  14. 02:10:707 (2) - 480|336?
  15. 02:28:066 (5) - change to a 1/1 slider which have lower volume and ×1.0 sv? for there is a fun melody background
  16. 02:47:448 (2) - ctrl+G? I don't think the same flow fits vocal here, btw the blanket
  17. 02:57:561 (3) - ctrl+G? to have a feeling like 'OUT'
  18. 03:06:325 (4) - change to a 1/4 slider? that will be cooler
  19. 03:09:190 (5) - ^
  20. 03:16:774 (2) - ctrl+G better imo
  21. 03:42:898 (1) - make a strange shape? and flowing to the next slider is better imo especially for here
  22. 04:15:763 (1) - ctrl+G? just like opposite for 04:15:763 (1,1) - them is better
  23. Besides unifying the distance for blanket parts will make patterns titier, as an example like 00:19:640 (5,1,2) -
Just mod it for the cool slider :D
Good luck! :)
Topic Starter
Slick

Misure wrote:

Hello here, random mod here :D
[Grimoire]
  1. 00:02:111 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - like this? for flow and blanket i don't find that to flow well
  2. 00:05:988 (4) - 36|112? fixed
  3. 00:10:538 (1,2) - stack? kinda close for me don't think that's needed
  4. 00:18:460 (1,2) - blanket? fixed
  5. 00:19:640 (5) - ctrl+G better for me, for flow too sudden slider jump
  6. 00:23:684 (4) - 104|112? sudden slow down feels weird
  7. 00:26:718 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - like this? for flow, just move 1 and rotate 234 i prefer what i have already
  8. 00:51:662 (3,4) - and 00:52:336 (1,2) - embarrassing for me, as distance sorry i don't understand
  9. 01:01:606 (9) - change to a 1/4 slider which have no volume at tail? don't think that's needed
  10. 01:19:302 (1) - the same shape like 01:18:460 (3) - ? I mean copy and paste ;) i like having the two different shapes
  11. 01:29:078 (1) - like this? I really like stack at tail of a high speed slider when there is an empty beat passed
  12. 01:31:100 (3,1) - no good the same flow, how about like this? fixed
  13. 02:05:482 (2,3) - this blanket is really off, btw I think you'd better fix some other blankets which are off looks fine to me
  14. 02:10:707 (2) - 480|336? good, fixed
  15. 02:28:066 (5) - change to a 1/1 slider which have lower volume and ×1.0 sv? for there is a fun melody background don't think that's necessary
  16. 02:47:448 (2) - ctrl+G? I don't think the same flow fits vocal here, btw the blanket fixed blanket only
  17. 03:42:898 (1) - make a strange shape? and flowing to the next slider is better imo especially for herei don't think the jump is too hard
  18. Besides unifying the distance for blanket parts will make patterns titier, as an example like 00:19:640 (5,1,2) -
Just mod it for the cool slider :D
Good luck! :)
sorry for passing on a lot
Thank you Misure!
-Atri-
RIP Midge

I hope that i have a way to contact with 5eania
Charles445
No KD, really small post for the new section

04:13:572 (3) - I think this could be farther away, maybe to the right, gives more impact and makes the distance to 4 less awkward. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4504641
04:13:909 (4) - This small spacing from 3 is a bit weird, same with the angle. I'd move the 4 to the bottom part of the screen, not the top. That way they are moving the opposite direction of where the 3 is going. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4504643
04:15:932 (1,1,1,1) - These slider stream jumps are really big! I recommend redoing the first 3 so they aren't as large, breaking off sliders at this point in the map would be upsetting.
04:19:134 (2) - I'd move this down a little more. The player isn't going to follow the 2 at all since they have to get ready for 3, so it'd be nicer to have it lower, maybe a bit more to the left. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4504648
04:23:347 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think a repeat slider would be fine here, 1/8 slider streams are really weird / easy to break on.
04:26:718 (1,1) - These jumps are again a bit too big. Not as tricky as the other ones but still could have the spacing reduced

Nice part

bleh I'd recommend getting some more mods before I comb through the entirety of the set.
I've been busy lately as you can probably tell lol
Topic Starter
Slick

5eania wrote:

Charles445 wrote:

04:13:572 (3) - I think this could be farther away, maybe to the right, gives more impact and makes the distance to 4 less awkward. -> achttps://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4504641
04:13:909 (4) - This small spacing from 3 is a bit weird, same with the angle. I'd move the 4 to the bottom part of the screen, not the top. That way they are moving the opposite direction of where the 3 is going. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4504643i redesign to that around section a little bit. idk it's ok
04:15:932 (1,1,1,1) - These slider stream jumps are really big! I recommend redoing the first 3 so they aren't as large, breaking off sliders at this point in the map would be upsetting. D: i have no idea more; i set increase sv to first slider and reversed (Ctrl + G) second slider
04:19:134 (2) - I'd move this down a little more. The player isn't going to follow the 2 at all since they have to get ready for 3, so it'd be nicer to have it lower, maybe a bit more to the left. -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4504648ac
04:23:347 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think a repeat slider would be fine here, 1/8 slider streams are really weird / easy to break on. ac
04:26:718 (1,1) - These jumps are again a bit too big. Not as tricky as the other ones but still could have the spacing reduced it's ok. isn't it? yes you right. that two sliders has pretty long distance with each other. but slider makes free 300 point many times, so i think this is no problem
-Atri-
uhhhh why Midge's tag is still there
Charles445
After a lot of modding / playtesting / redesigning, map's finally ready to go.
If you remember this map from some months ago, take a look again, it's very different.

This is a pretty gimmicky map, so here's a bit of a rundown of what to expect.
Map is dominantly focusing on the vocals. Beats are often "skipped" in order to follow the vocalist.
This means long and fast sliders, as well as a techno breakdown portion with sudden movements.

Map used to be 6 stars, it's 5.7 now. Jumps have been seriously nerfed.
Sliders have been made far less jagged, aren't over-extended, and overall function properly.
Many patterns have been completely redone to make them play well.

So yeah this plays real good now. Here's my replay and the score.

Here's Bubble #1 (rebubble).
BeatofIke
I double-checked for any off-screen notes, inaudible/inconsistent hitsounds, timing, hidden reverse arrows, my soul, and...pretty much everything else. Let's give this map a try at least and see how it goes from here.

Bubble #2~
-Atri-
Hype hype hype
jonathanlfj
I've looked over this map quite a few times in the past, most of my concerns seem to be resolved so gonna give this a try

btw some of you might question about the 5% volume slider ticks, they are in fact audible with default volume settings so I don't see it as a problem
Anxient
mother of god
Yuii-
I can see people placeholdering already
Here we go ~
blissfulyoshi
Congratz for getting this far.
Arphimigon
Nice to see ya finally get this out there
pkk
Map feels a lot better to play now, great job Slick (and modders) :)
Mikii
gratz
Battle
? dang
Kroytz
rip midge (again)
gz Slick!
Kibbleru
3slick5mexd
Horo
oh wow nice one slick this actually happened
Cherry Blossom
Not a placeholder post.
I'll just give a try to this map too :3
Congratz
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