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(Word Vomit) Concerns of The Future of OT

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IAMACROBA
339 posts
Joined January 2023
Topic Starter
IAMACROBA
I'm not gonna lie, it's 4 A.M. and I probably should be asleep, but I wanna share a moment of vulnerability (if you want to call it that). I've been here for about a month and I wanted to say that I care a lot, probably too much about OT as a whole. Aside from gifting supporter to a bunch of people and never really creating good content, I have a lot of pride being a part of what I consider a tight knit community of people all around the world. There's a lot more to OT to me than just an internet forum on a decade old game.
Sidebar
I'm not gonna go into my past, but it was pretty rough. Didn't really have a community of people to talk to etc.
I don't have a lot of sway in things. I don't have a lot of experience, I don't know the lore, I don't have any understanding of hierarchy or the generation gap, and maybe I'm just overthinking this and overwhelmed. I think about OT all day, I care about everyone here, but most of all I care and am scared for the future of OT, if there is one.

I've noticed some talk about Abraker leaving, and how all the other GMTs want us deleted. To be honest I wanted to word vomit and get some information on this, cause I care, and I don't wanna sit back and see a community I joined recently just get wiped out from under me.

What can I do? How can I help?

Are we even in trouble or am I being baited?

feel free to make fun of me I don't fucking care. I only care about the future of OT. Maybe too much.
Ymir
1,802 posts
Joined June 2020
Ymir
It's not too serious, but it's the fact that this place is not as rule-abiding as the other forums. It's also not taken seriously, Abraker is the only GMT who understands the culture here, and Ephemeral is a developer so he has other things to do, so Abraker is the only one who manages it consistently. Other GMTs don't know a thing about OT, so they prefer to stay away.

TLDR: It's a nightmare to moderate this, it's only alive because of Abraker and Ephemeral.
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Stomiks
9,043 posts
Joined March 2021
Stomiks
Abraker isn't gonna leave OT right away. I remember he will after he gets his 5 year GMT badge which is like 2 or 3 years away? We pretty much have a ton of time for someone to eventually replace him when that happens. Heck, we've been considering that corne should replace abraker for a little while now if corne wants to.

Even if there are no GMTs to moderate OT, we will still probably (hopefully) be continuing on as we are doing right now, just that you'll probably expect more shitposts than usual.
Manishh
2,093 posts
Joined October 2020
Manishh
Its sad that Abraker will leave but remember that OT! was alive before abraker joined this nightmare and after abraker leaves, We will find a way to make everything work or maybe in future a GMT decided to join OT! or a denizen become gmt. At the end of the day, whatever will happen will happen, one day or another
Ymir
1,802 posts
Joined June 2020
Ymir
I reckon the event of an overlord being born to foresee us will be a huge event.

We could probably get Eph to work something out with the GMT's in the event that Corne does not become one (or we could contact the Global Moderation Team ourselves).

If we were to do it ourselves, we'd have to do so as if we were an alien race coming into contact with normal people.
We'd have to introduce our culture here, inform them about the relaxed rules in this community, as well as show them some of our creations. If we can't get a GMT to monitor us, at least we can inform them about what posts can get locked and what posts can't.
Manishh
2,093 posts
Joined October 2020
Manishh
Though, it will be a fun experience as well as new experience to have. I hope that I will be alive to see that day since I love organizing things even if its a game, discord server or RP.

You also is worrying for nothing since even if there are no GMT. OT! will still be alive and nothing much will happen except shitposter posting more often and shitty thread being alive for more time. And even if OT! goes down very bad, ephermal will find a way to fix it like making someone gmt intentionally or increasing the chance of corne being the next overlord
Hoshimegu Mio
1,097 posts
Joined July 2020
Hoshimegu Mio
Yeah yeah yeah newcomers always care too much lol. Just another annual OT is dead thread I guess.
Arctos Sagittario
226 posts
Joined August 2011
Arctos Sagittario
it's highly unlikely that a subforum would go completely rogue, so there would definitely be someone watching over this place

either promoted denizen, or airdropped outsider

anyway ot would do fine, dont worry
DM FOR MUTUAL
609 posts
Joined March 2021
DM FOR MUTUAL
I don't think it'll be a problem. If Abraker were to leave tomorrow, it's not like OT will be deleted. OT does serve a a function in the osu forums at large, being the trash heap where everything that doesn't fit into any other subforums ends up. Go to pretty much any other niche forum similar to osu and there'll be an Off-Topic subforum, or something equivalent. If they don't, it's likely that the forum is extremely focussed or mature.

Abraker doesn't just moderate OT, but a lot of the other subforums as well, though it's to a lesser extent. If Abraker were to go, it feels like a new GMT stepping up to moderate the forums is inevitable.

Not really sure the where the idea of GMTs wanting to delete OT comes from. A lot of GMTs probably want to stay away from OT, because not only is there a lot of content to moderate, but it'd probably be pretty intimidating to join this already established, incredibly isolated and strange community, and immediately have the responsibility to moderate it without much knowledge of what goes on here.

Also, I personally think that someone here eventually becoming a GMT to moderate this place is very possible. If we look at what is required for you to be considered as a GMT;

osu wiki wrote:

Becoming a moderator

Becoming a member of the Global Moderation Team requires a notable amount of contribution. Potential members are often noticed for their willingness to help other users, activity within the community, and good behaviour. The ability to speak languages other than English is strongly preferred. Candidates are discussed within the team to determine their potential addition as a team member.

How to be considered
The most important factors for consideration are behaviour, activity, understanding of the rules, and patience:

  1. Demonstrate good behaviour by being polite and treating other users with respect. Keeping your account free of any serious silences or issues is essential.
  2. Demonstrate in-game activity by participating in the chat and/or the forums. Report any misbehaviour and problems via the report system. Answer questions and assist others with issues.
  3. Have a proper understanding of the rules and how they are applied. It is important to know what is acceptable within osu! and what is not.
  4. Be patient. The GMT does not spontaneously add members who have been helping for just a few days. It takes time for the GMT to evaluate someone⁠ — their personality, what they can help with, their activity, etc.
Generally, the team will observe people for several weeks or months to make sure they are a worthy addition to the team. Please be patient and do not go overboard. Feel free to ask anyone from the GMT about any questions regarding rules, reporting users, and any other issues.
(source)
Anyone who's been here for a while, become respected and not gotten into any major trouble probably look like pretty juicy candidates. It might honestly just be a question in who's willing to take the responsibility.

Also, if Abraker still has 2 or 3 years left in him, then that's an eternity away for OT standards. This would make this issue basically non-urgent. You might have left OT or stopped caring by then lol.

I think the worst thing that could happen would probably be that the quality of threads generally becomes lower because the new GMT isn't as involved as Abraker is, and we'll be the boomers talking about how OT was so much better back in ye olden days when Abraker was a GMT.
Manishh
2,093 posts
Joined October 2020
Manishh
Whoever become the next overlord, He will never be great as Abraker
Arctos Sagittario
226 posts
Joined August 2011
Arctos Sagittario

yoony1 wrote:

... probably look like pretty juicy candidates.
← oven dried stingy jerky at your service
Patatitta
1,294 posts
Joined February 2020
Patatitta
there has been multiple overlords, abraker is just one of them, he will go, and someone else wioll we join

other gmt doesn't want us gone, it's just an annoying place to moderate, hard to tell what's lock-worth it or not

about OT lore and stuff, personally I just dont really care at all, it's not really needed for you to have a good stay
loserotaku
loserotaku

-Remi wrote:

It's not too serious, but it's the fact that this place is not as rule-abiding as the other forums. It's also not taken seriously, Abraker is the only GMT who understands the culture here, and Ephemeral is a developer so he has other things to do, so Abraker is the only one who manages it consistently. Other GMTs don't know a thing about OT, so they prefer to stay away.

TLDR: It's a nightmare to moderate this, it's only alive because of Abraker and Ephemeral.
ill be the new abraker
Duck o-o
1,394 posts
Joined November 2021
Duck o-o
corne will get gmt and save the day 👍
Stomiks
9,043 posts
Joined March 2021
Stomiks

Loserotaku wrote:

-Remi wrote:

It's not too serious, but it's the fact that this place is not as rule-abiding as the other forums. It's also not taken seriously, Abraker is the only GMT who understands the culture here, and Ephemeral is a developer so he has other things to do, so Abraker is the only one who manages it consistently. Other GMTs don't know a thing about OT, so they prefer to stay away.

TLDR: It's a nightmare to moderate this, it's only alive because of Abraker and Ephemeral.
ill be the new abraker
I will kill myself if you ever became GMT
IAMACROBA
339 posts
Joined January 2023
Topic Starter
IAMACROBA

Dementedduck wrote:

corne will get gmt and save the day 👍
I would wholeheartedly be really happy if corne got GMT. I love that lil guy. (⁠´⁠∩⁠｡⁠•⁠ ⁠ᵕ⁠ ⁠•⁠｡⁠∩⁠`⁠)
Polyspora
473 posts
Joined September 2019
Polyspora

Stomiks wrote:

Loserotaku wrote:

-Remi wrote:

It's not too serious, but it's the fact that this place is not as rule-abiding as the other forums. It's also not taken seriously, Abraker is the only GMT who understands the culture here, and Ephemeral is a developer so he has other things to do, so Abraker is the only one who manages it consistently. Other GMTs don't know a thing about OT, so they prefer to stay away.

TLDR: It's a nightmare to moderate this, it's only alive because of Abraker and Ephemeral.
ill be the new abraker
I will kill myself if you ever became GMT



btw acroba, there is always an overlord to protect us from other gods, if abraker goes, we'll have someone else in his place to defend us
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Manishh
2,093 posts
Joined October 2020
Manishh

Stomiks wrote:

Loserotaku wrote:

-Remi wrote:

It's not too serious, but it's the fact that this place is not as rule-abiding as the other forums. It's also not taken seriously, Abraker is the only GMT who understands the culture here, and Ephemeral is a developer so he has other things to do, so Abraker is the only one who manages it consistently. Other GMTs don't know a thing about OT, so they prefer to stay away.

TLDR: It's a nightmare to moderate this, it's only alive because of Abraker and Ephemeral.
ill be the new abraker
I will kill myself if you ever became GMT
so will I
Patatitta
1,294 posts
Joined February 2020
Patatitta
also do we really consider word vomit like 3 paragraphs?, seems pretty short to me
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IAMACROBA
339 posts
Joined January 2023
Topic Starter
IAMACROBA

Patatitta wrote:

also do we really consider word vomit like 3 paragraphs?, seems pretty short to me
I don't talk much irl, actions speak louder than words imo
Rigbyuis
250 posts
Joined October 2021
Rigbyuis

Polyspora wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Loserotaku wrote:

-Remi wrote:

It's not too serious, but it's the fact that this place is not as rule-abiding as the other forums. It's also not taken seriously, Abraker is the only GMT who understands the culture here, and Ephemeral is a developer so he has other things to do, so Abraker is the only one who manages it consistently. Other GMTs don't know a thing about OT, so they prefer to stay away.

TLDR: It's a nightmare to moderate this, it's only alive because of Abraker and Ephemeral.
ill be the new abraker
I will kill myself if you ever became GMT



btw acroba, there is always an overlord to protect us from other gods, if abraker goes, we'll have someone else in his place to defend us
he will probably be sies or death
abraker
Global Moderator
8,350 posts
Joined July 2014
abraker

yoony1 wrote:

Not really sure the where the idea of GMTs wanting to delete OT comes from.
That comes from me. GMTs would rather nuke OT than deal with it.

yoony1 wrote:

Anyone who's been here for a while, become respected and not gotten into any major trouble probably look like pretty juicy candidates. It might honestly just be a question in who's willing to take the responsibility.
If Corne doesn't become GMT, none of you gonners have a chance. As made apparent by my last attempt to push for Corne GMT, there is a 5th hidden point - being known by other GMT. None of these 4 points matter if GMT never heard of you before. They won't know how to vote on you.

yoony1 wrote:

I think the worst thing that could happen would probably be that the quality of threads generally becomes lower because the new GMT isn't as involved as Abraker is, and we'll be the boomers talking about how OT was so much better back in ye olden days when Abraker was a GMT.
The worst thing that can happen is OT getting carried away by spamming, necroing and other behavior demonstrating a negative braincell count. At that point Eph would make yet another thread asking why OT should be spared. If it comes to worst there will be an internal vote on what to do with the subforum, which will not go in its favor. If the vote favors shutting OT down, a request to ppy will made to archive the subforum. That would be the last checkpoint before point of no return. It's only at that point you can actually argue nominating someone from OT to moderate this place and have ppy override whatever GMT thinks and votes. Because GMT sure as hell won't see anyone here worthy of it without a strong recommendation from another GMT.
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Karmine
953 posts
Joined November 2015
Karmine

abraker wrote:

yoony1 wrote:

Anyone who's been here for a while, become respected and not gotten into any major trouble probably look like pretty juicy candidates. It might honestly just be a question in who's willing to take the responsibility.
If Corne doesn't become GMT, none of you gonners have a chance. As made apparent by my last attempt to push for Corne GMT, there is a 5th hidden point - being known by other GMT. None of these 4 points matter if GMT never heard of you before. They won't know how to vote on you.
The good old circlejerk rule, why not make it official if they actually do that? At least it would be honest
Also that implies that what's written in the wiki about potential GMTs being "reviewed" for some time is just not true
If it's true tough it would also explain why people I've never seen in chat (when I was more active) or forum become GMT

About your last point archiving OT because of spam/shitpost and no moderation would make no sense unless #osu gets deleted, that place is constantly worse than anything I've seen on OT
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Corne2Plum3
Global Moderator
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Corne2Plum3

Karmine wrote:

abraker wrote:

yoony1 wrote:

Anyone who's been here for a while, become respected and not gotten into any major trouble probably look like pretty juicy candidates. It might honestly just be a question in who's willing to take the responsibility.
If Corne doesn't become GMT, none of you gonners have a chance. As made apparent by my last attempt to push for Corne GMT, there is a 5th hidden point - being known by other GMT. None of these 4 points matter if GMT never heard of you before. They won't know how to vote on you.
The good old circlejerk rule, why not make it official if they actually do that? At least it would be honest
Also that implies that what's written in the wiki about potential GMTs being "reviewed" for some time is just not true
If it's true tough it would also explain why people I've never seen in chat (when I was more active) or forum become GMT

About your last point archiving OT because of spam/shitpost and no moderation would make no sense unless #osu gets deleted, that place is constantly worse than anything I've seen on OT
I didn't knew there was circlejerking like BNs with nominations
abraker
Global Moderator
8,350 posts
Joined July 2014
abraker

Karmine wrote:

The good old circlejerk rule, why not make it official if they actually do that? At least it would be honest
Also that implies that what's written in the wiki about potential GMTs being "reviewed" for some time is just not true
If it's true tough it would also explain why people I've never seen in chat (when I was more active) or forum become GMT
That part in the wiki is kinda true

Generally, the team will observe people for several weeks or months to make sure they are a worthy addition to the team.
In practice if there is an immediate need for a GMT in a certain area, it takes one GMT who is familiar with someone to propose them as candidate. Otherwise, if we notice great qualities in the person we will keep an eye out for them. Then you get events like a callout for people wanting to be GMT for which we end up skimming through their post/comment/whatever history and judge them on that.

Karmine wrote:

If it's true tough it would also explain why people I've never seen in chat (when I was more active) or forum become GMT
Most people who become GMT are ones that did some sort of management, participated in osu events prior, or gave to the community in some way - be BN, host tournaments, voice in streams, lead ranking criteria changes, etc. I suppose there is unconscious favoritism within people participating officially organized events or made community impact instead of giggling amongst others in some little area you can chat in

Karmine wrote:

About your last point archiving OT because of spam/shitpost and no moderation would make no sense unless #osu gets deleted, that place is constantly worse than anything I've seen on OT
that's quite ironic
perhaps comes down to forums being a dying medium
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- Marco -
7,537 posts
Joined December 2011
- Marco -
So someone denied Corne as GMT? I just want to talk with them
Karmine
953 posts
Joined November 2015
Karmine

abraker wrote:

Most people who become GMT are ones that did some sort of management, participated in osu events prior, or gave to the community in some way - be BN, host tournaments, voice in streams, lead ranking criteria changes, etc. I suppose there is unconscious favoritism within people participating officially organized events or made community impact instead of giggling amongst others in some little area you can chat in
But their role as GMT is to moderate chat and forum, not organise tournaments etc.
That's kind of a bad way to select GMTs imo
IAMACROBA
339 posts
Joined January 2023
Topic Starter
IAMACROBA
Huh. Corne really is OT's last hope.
loserotaku
loserotaku

-acroba- wrote:

Huh. Corne really is OT's last hope.
you forgot about me
IAMACROBA
339 posts
Joined January 2023
Topic Starter
IAMACROBA

Loserotaku wrote:

-acroba- wrote:

Huh. Corne really is OT's last hope.
you forgot about me
For the love of God PLEASE shut the fuck up.

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abraker
Global Moderator
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abraker

Karmine wrote:

abraker wrote:

Most people who become GMT are ones that did some sort of management, participated in osu events prior, or gave to the community in some way - be BN, host tournaments, voice in streams, lead ranking criteria changes, etc. I suppose there is unconscious favoritism within people participating officially organized events or made community impact instead of giggling amongst others in some little area you can chat in
But their role as GMT is to moderate chat and forum, not organise tournaments etc.
That's kind of a bad way to select GMTs imo
You may think, but there is a good reason for it. There is a strong desire for the GMT to be interweaved with the community. There have been more calls to bring people into the group who's purpose is not strictly to moderate but bridge the gap between community and the GMT/NAT/osu!team. Occasionally the idea of community ambassador or some equivalent role would come up, but as of now that's also GMT/NAT's job as well.

If you reduce GMT to strictly moderation you get an empty husk. I moderate OT, yea, but I don't just silently lock posts and silence, but I interact with you guys. I work on pp development. I am one of the few GMTs that actually go into multiplayer and casually play with people. That's all considered part of what a GMT should be doing.
IAMACROBA
339 posts
Joined January 2023
Topic Starter
IAMACROBA

abraker wrote:

Karmine wrote:

abraker wrote:

Most people who become GMT are ones that did some sort of management, participated in osu events prior, or gave to the community in some way - be BN, host tournaments, voice in streams, lead ranking criteria changes, etc. I suppose there is unconscious favoritism within people participating officially organized events or made community impact instead of giggling amongst others in some little area you can chat in
But their role as GMT is to moderate chat and forum, not organise tournaments etc.
That's kind of a bad way to select GMTs imo
You may think, but there is a good reason for it. There is a strong desire for the GMT to be interweaved with the community. There have been more calls to bring people into the group who's purpose is not strictly to moderate but bridge the gap between community and the GMT/NAT/osu!team. Occasionally the idea of community ambassador or some equivalent role would come up, but as of now that's also GMT/NAT's job as well.

If you reduce GMT to strictly moderation you get an empty husk. I moderate OT, yea, but I don't just silently lock posts and silence, but I interact with you guys. I work on pp development. I am one of the few GMTs that actually go into multiplayer and casually play with people. That's all considered part of what a GMT should be doing.
You're a good GMT. And from what I can see, you care about the community. I just don't want to see OT die.
Karmine
953 posts
Joined November 2015
Karmine

abraker wrote:

Karmine wrote:

abraker wrote:

Most people who become GMT are ones that did some sort of management, participated in osu events prior, or gave to the community in some way - be BN, host tournaments, voice in streams, lead ranking criteria changes, etc. I suppose there is unconscious favoritism within people participating officially organized events or made community impact instead of giggling amongst others in some little area you can chat in
But their role as GMT is to moderate chat and forum, not organise tournaments etc.
That's kind of a bad way to select GMTs imo
You may think, but there is a good reason for it. There is a strong desire for the GMT to be interweaved with the community. There have been more calls to bring people into the group who's purpose is not strictly to moderate but bridge the gap between community and the GMT/NAT/osu!team. Occasionally the idea of community ambassador or some equivalent role would come up, but as of now that's also GMT/NAT's job as well.

If you reduce GMT to strictly moderation you get an empty husk. I moderate OT, yea, but I don't just silently lock posts and silence, but I interact with you guys. I work on pp development. I am one of the few GMTs that actually go into multiplayer and casually play with people. That's all considered part of what a GMT should be doing.
Yeah but being active in chat and forums is also being part of the community
Creating an ambassador role would make more sense for people who "make stuff" other than just being part of the community/moderating
Pushing GMTs to do that would be like pushing BNs to moderate even though that's not what the role is for originally, it doesn't make sense to me
Patatitta
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Joined February 2020
Patatitta
I feel archiving the only real active, speaking sub-forum would be shooting yourself in the foot, don't know if they're acually willing to do that, even if you go now, I think it would still be a while until OT really goes into anarchy, as you've been taking breaks recently and so far we've been good, maybe, there is a chance, that if they see there are no actives gmts in ot, and that you, and the rest of OT has been pushing for a specific user to be gmt, it would be more probable for corne to become gmt?, I don't really know any other gmts, I just hope they dont just take a decision like that because fuck it no more work for me
abraker
Global Moderator
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Joined July 2014
abraker

Karmine wrote:

Yeah but being active in chat and forums is also being part of the community
Classic moderator vs users mentality would disagree. Just look at how reddit is run


Karmine wrote:

Pushing GMTs to do that would be like pushing BNs to moderate even though that's not what the role is for originally, it doesn't make sense to me
Don't confuse tasks that require vetting with stuff anyone in the community can take up. You don't need to be approved to run a tournament. You can organize one right now if you want to, no approval needed.


Patatitta wrote:

I think it would still be a while until OT really goes into anarchy, as you've been taking breaks recently and so far we've been good, maybe, there is a chance
Eph exiling Scyla for poor quality threads is some indication I was either hesitant or a bit laid back with the shit threads in OT as of late
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Karmine
953 posts
Joined November 2015
Karmine

abraker wrote:

Classic moderator vs users mentality would disagree. Just look at how reddit is run
I reread that a hundred times and what I understand is that you're saying reddit has a moderator vs users mentality and that's why it's bad?
If so I completely agree, I don't use reddit but in general communities where moderators are in the shadow/unseen dictators are shit

abraker wrote:

Don't confuse tasks that require vetting with stuff anyone in the community can take up. You don't need to be approved to run a tournament. You can organize one right now if you want to, no approval needed.
Yeah but what I mean should be enough to just actively participate in chats/forums considering:

Wiki wrote:

The Global Moderation Team (aka GMT) are members of the community who are primarily focused on player moderation and ensuring the community is a fun and engaging place for everybody.
Doing more like playing in multi, development or organising events is cool and can certainly be encouraged but I think it shouldn't be required
abraker
Global Moderator
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abraker

Karmine wrote:

Doing more like playing in multi, development or organising events is cool and can certainly be encouraged but I think it shouldn't be required
It is not required. It is expected. If GMT stops doing those that's fine, but that's what they would be favored for doing coming in
Rigbyuis
250 posts
Joined October 2021
Rigbyuis

Patatitta wrote:

I feel archiving the only real active, speaking sub-forum would be shooting yourself in the foot, don't know if they're acually willing to do that, even if you go now, I think it would still be a while until OT really goes into anarchy, as you've been taking breaks recently and so far we've been good, maybe, there is a chance, that if they see there are no actives gmts in ot, and that you, and the rest of OT has been pushing for a specific user to be gmt, it would be more probable for corne to become gmt?, I don't really know any other gmts, I just hope they dont just take a decision like that because fuck it no more work for me

if another GMT that actually follows guidance's of osu community as rules touches OT, he would get multiple heart attacks and leave this land umfertile for new threads with the worst lock chaos that has ever been witnessed
Karmine
953 posts
Joined November 2015
Karmine

abraker wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Doing more like playing in multi, development or organising events is cool and can certainly be encouraged but I think it shouldn't be required
It is not required. It is expected. If GMT stops doing those that's fine, but that's what they would be favored for doing coming in
Makes sense depending on how much they are favored depending on that
It's obviously better to have people who interact in different ways with the community but activities that are not at the core of the role shouldn't be overvalued
Nuuskamuikkunen
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Joined March 2013
Nuuskamuikkunen

Manishh wrote:

Whoever become the next overlord, He will never be great as Abraker
Marco is a pretty chill dude, possibly Corne would do good too.


But none of them are mad scientsts...

Stomiks wrote:

Loserotaku wrote:

-Remi wrote:

It's not too serious, but it's the fact that this place is not as rule-abiding as the other forums. It's also not taken seriously, Abraker is the only GMT who understands the culture here, and Ephemeral is a developer so he has other things to do, so Abraker is the only one who manages it consistently. Other GMTs don't know a thing about OT, so they prefer to stay away.

TLDR: It's a nightmare to moderate this, it's only alive because of Abraker and Ephemeral.
ill be the new abraker
I will kill myself if you ever became GMT
Why kill yourself when you can kill him? I'd prefer having you alive, stickyman.
[ Sebastian ]
586 posts
Joined July 2021
[ Sebastian ]

eblf2013 wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Loserotaku wrote:

-Remi wrote:

It's not too serious, but it's the fact that this place is not as rule-abiding as the other forums. It's also not taken seriously, Abraker is the only GMT who understands the culture here, and Ephemeral is a developer so he has other things to do, so Abraker is the only one who manages it consistently. Other GMTs don't know a thing about OT, so they prefer to stay away.

TLDR: It's a nightmare to moderate this, it's only alive because of Abraker and Ephemeral.
ill be the new abraker
I will kill myself if you ever became GMT
Why kill yourself when you can kill him? I'd prefer having you alive, stickyman.
What did you call him?
Nuuskamuikkunen
1,259 posts
Joined March 2013
Nuuskamuikkunen

[ Sebastian ] wrote:

eblf2013 wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Loserotaku wrote:

-Remi wrote:

It's not too serious, but it's the fact that this place is not as rule-abiding as the other forums. It's also not taken seriously, Abraker is the only GMT who understands the culture here, and Ephemeral is a developer so he has other things to do, so Abraker is the only one who manages it consistently. Other GMTs don't know a thing about OT, so they prefer to stay away.

TLDR: It's a nightmare to moderate this, it's only alive because of Abraker and Ephemeral.
ill be the new abraker
I will kill myself if you ever became GMT
Why kill yourself when you can kill him? I'd prefer having you alive, stickyman.
What did you call him?
STICKYMAN

You read that now?
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Stomiks
9,043 posts
Joined March 2021
Stomiks

eblf2013 wrote:

[ Sebastian ] wrote:

eblf2013 wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Loserotaku wrote:

-Remi wrote:

It's not too serious, but it's the fact that this place is not as rule-abiding as the other forums. It's also not taken seriously, Abraker is the only GMT who understands the culture here, and Ephemeral is a developer so he has other things to do, so Abraker is the only one who manages it consistently. Other GMTs don't know a thing about OT, so they prefer to stay away.

TLDR: It's a nightmare to moderate this, it's only alive because of Abraker and Ephemeral.
ill be the new abraker
I will kill myself if you ever became GMT
Why kill yourself when you can kill him? I'd prefer having you alive, stickyman.
What did you call him?
STICKYMAN

You read that now?
I'm... not sure if I like that name or not.
IAMACROBA
339 posts
Joined January 2023
Topic Starter
IAMACROBA

Stomiks wrote:

eblf2013 wrote:

[ Sebastian ] wrote:

eblf2013 wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Loserotaku wrote:

-Remi wrote:

It's not too serious, but it's the fact that this place is not as rule-abiding as the other forums. It's also not taken seriously, Abraker is the only GMT who understands the culture here, and Ephemeral is a developer so he has other things to do, so Abraker is the only one who manages it consistently. Other GMTs don't know a thing about OT, so they prefer to stay away.

TLDR: It's a nightmare to moderate this, it's only alive because of Abraker and Ephemeral.
ill be the new abraker
I will kill myself if you ever became GMT
Why kill yourself when you can kill him? I'd prefer having you alive, stickyman.
What did you call him?
STICKYMAN

You read that now?
I'm... not sure if I like that name or not.
stickyman
HoosierTransfer
280 posts
Joined October 2021
HoosierTransfer
Honestly I'm more concerned about OT getting boring and people just start leaving.
Karmine
953 posts
Joined November 2015
Karmine

HoosierTransfer wrote:

Honestly I'm more concerned about OT getting boring and people just start leaving.
Not going to happen, what is boring for some is good for others, that's why it's always evolving: new people arrive, meta changes, old people leave
Arctos Sagittario
226 posts
Joined August 2011
Arctos Sagittario
and old people return in

and out

in

out
Karmine
953 posts
Joined November 2015
Karmine

Arctos Sagittario wrote:

and old people return in

and out

in

out
Sometimes yeah, it's cool to see old people from time to time
Nuuskamuikkunen
1,259 posts
Joined March 2013
Nuuskamuikkunen

Arctos Sagittario wrote:

and old people return in

and out

in

out
Hi man, howcha doing.
[ Sebastian ]
586 posts
Joined July 2021
[ Sebastian ]

Karmine wrote:

HoosierTransfer wrote:

Honestly I'm more concerned about OT getting boring and people just start leaving.
Not going to happen, what is boring for some is good for others, that's why it's always evolving: new people arrive, meta changes, old people leave
Maybe someday the meta will change in a way where the oldfags will return to OT permanently. But that'll most likely never happen since most of them are done with Osu entirely. Although I still don't get the difference between new OT and old OT.
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