2017-03-09 21:11 Protastic101: anyways, Im free to irc now
2017-03-09 21:11 Antalf: im talking bout the map
2017-03-09 21:12 Protastic101: yeah, the map I was just modding?
2017-03-09 21:12 Antalf: yup
2017-03-09 21:12 Antalf: that thing is cancer
2017-03-09 21:12 Antalf: SO
2017-03-09 21:12 Antalf: IM SCROLLING ON MY MAPS
2017-03-09 21:12 Antalf: AND I CLICK ZEN
2017-03-09 21:12 Protastic101: lmao
2017-03-09 21:12 Antalf: MENTAI COSMIC STARTS PLAYING?????????????????????????
2017-03-09 21:12 Protastic101: zen rank when? :thinking:
2017-03-09 21:13 Antalf: NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES I CLICK MENTAI STILL PLAYS WTF
2017-03-09 21:13 Protastic101: i dunno what mentai is :thinking:
2017-03-09 21:13 Antalf: SO I PLAY THE MAP AND THE SONG IS MENTAI COSMIC?????
2017-03-09 21:13 Antalf: yeah im gonna fucking shot my self rn
2017-03-09 21:14 Protastic101: mentai :thinking:
2017-03-09 21:15 Antalf: mentai cosmic is a song
2017-03-09 21:15 Antalf: WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
2017-03-09 21:15 Antalf:
https://puu.sh/uBXWv/416b9aad33.png2017-03-09 21:15 Protastic101: same stuff actually happened to me a while ago lol
2017-03-09 21:17 Antalf: okay fixe
2017-03-09 21:17 Antalf: wtf
2017-03-09 21:17 Antalf: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1218547 Camellia - Exit This Earth's Atomosphere]
2017-03-09 21:18 Antalf: tell me you updated dem piano samples :^)
2017-03-09 21:20 Protastic101: o shit
2017-03-09 21:20 Protastic101: i still have to do that
2017-03-09 21:20 Protastic101: fml
2017-03-09 21:20 Protastic101: I tried to find my osu folder and clicked another game instead lol
2017-03-09 21:20 Antalf: aaaaa feel free to not kds this irc since i think itll be dumb and not useful :c
2017-03-09 21:21 Protastic101: it'll be fun!
2017-03-09 21:22 Protastic101: keysounds are 10/10
2017-03-09 21:22 Protastic101: ok
2017-03-09 21:22 Antalf: 00:07:122 (7122|1,7387|2,7475|1) - this here
2017-03-09 21:22 Protastic101: Im ready to be told my map is shit!
2017-03-09 21:22 Antalf: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4
2017-03-09 21:22 Antalf: move this to 1 00:07:122 (7122|1) -
2017-03-09 21:22 Antalf: thas for the visuals but dont if you dont want to
2017-03-09 21:23 Protastic101: The last LN was in 1 so I'm keep it in 2 for a bit of variety
2017-03-09 21:24 Antalf: now the map is supposed to be trilly right?
2017-03-09 21:24 Protastic101: the ending part yeah
2017-03-09 21:25 Protastic101: But that's cause space. I tried making everything else as linear as possible
2017-03-09 21:25 Antalf: 00:25:475 (25475|2,25563|1,25652|2,25740|1,25828|2,25916|1,26093|2,26181|1,26269|2,26357|1,26446|2,26534|1,26710|2,26799|1) -
2017-03-09 21:25 Antalf: try to balance this out a bit?
2017-03-09 21:25 Antalf: feels too heave for col [2] [3]
2017-03-09 21:25 Antalf: heavy*
2017-03-09 21:26 Antalf: the other anchor is okay since i can feel some rising intensity
2017-03-09 21:26 Protastic101: rearranged a bit
2017-03-09 21:27 Antalf: can we add some 1/16 js?
2017-03-09 21:27 Protastic101: yes :^)
2017-03-09 21:27 Antalf: i added the samples to the folder and god
2017-03-09 21:28 Antalf: if theyre beautiful
2017-03-09 21:28 Protastic101: thanks fam
2017-03-09 21:29 Antalf: 01:05:710 (65710|2) - this should be on on [4]
2017-03-09 21:29 Antalf: move 01:05:534 (65534|1) - to [2]
2017-03-09 21:29 Antalf: descending order 01:06:416 (66416|0,66593|2,66769|3) -
2017-03-09 21:30 Antalf: ascending 01:07:475 (67475|2,67652|1,67828|0) -
2017-03-09 21:30 Protastic101: but
2017-03-09 21:30 Protastic101: do I really have to follow pitch relevancy? It's fun, but it also makes the gameplay a bit unbalanced and stale imo if you follow it cause then the notes are easily predictable and tend to learn towards one hand
2017-03-09 21:31 Antalf: well compared to rest of the chart i guess its nice to have it? since you have such a linear structuring following pr wont be as bad as it seems
2017-03-09 21:32 Antalf: but thats just me if you wanna leave it like that tell me and i can skip this
2017-03-09 21:32 Protastic101: I mean, I have it in some places where the pitch alternates for a beat or two, but I think I'll leave it at that
2017-03-09 21:32 Protastic101: and if I do decide to change it later, I have the samples to tell me which note goes where \o/
2017-03-09 21:34 Antalf: and if need more reference
https://puu.sh/uBYUq/0509f20785.png2017-03-09 21:34 Antalf: did this when i was doing the samples
2017-03-09 21:34 Protastic101: wao
2017-03-09 21:35 Antalf: thats the entire thing
2017-03-09 21:36 Protastic101: I've basically got it memorized at this point lol
2017-03-09 21:36 Antalf: normal hit finish here 01:20:357 (80357|1) - ?
2017-03-09 21:36 Antalf: and i can bet to that lol you must have taken a while doing that
2017-03-09 21:37 Protastic101: There's no finish there in the music. It's kind of like a fade out right before the next section. I could get a sample for that, but I feel like it's unnecessary since the sound only happens what, 4 times?
2017-03-09 21:37 Protastic101: And yeah, keysounding was such an ass I went into my basement to get out my midi keyboard lol
2017-03-09 21:38 Antalf: 01:32:534 (92534|3,92887|3,93240|3,93593|3,93946|3,94299|3,95710|0,96063|0,96416|0,96769|0,97122|0) - pls tell me
2017-03-09 21:38 Antalf: this were a mistake
2017-03-09 21:38 Protastic101: Without looking at the highlights you sent me, I'm assuming they're jacks?
2017-03-09 21:38 Antalf: yeh
2017-03-09 21:38 Antalf: i hear no sound what so ever there
2017-03-09 21:39 Antalf: like not even in 25 50 or 75
2017-03-09 21:39 Protastic101: Those aren't jacks u lied
2017-03-09 21:39 Protastic101: jkjk
2017-03-09 21:39 Protastic101: Hm
2017-03-09 21:39 Protastic101: So the reason why I have those there is a continuation of the 1/2 from 01:21:063 -
2017-03-09 21:39 Antalf: that thing with just the doubles plays like heaven
2017-03-09 21:40 Protastic101: 01:32:357 - is basically the previous section but with kicks added on. The 1/2 kind of blends in with the harmony more, but it's still there, and I don't really think it'd make sense to drop the 1/2 when the music has gotten a bit more active or whatever
2017-03-09 21:40 Antalf: ok cool but this LN can represent a 1/1 type of rhythm without breaking the song's flow 01:32:004 (92004|3) -
2017-03-09 21:41 Antalf: have in mind youre using singles there instead of doubles
2017-03-09 21:41 Protastic101: 01:38:004 - I did change the 1/2 here to follow the synths that come after the downbeat tho
2017-03-09 21:42 Antalf: but its still constant 1/2 while i hear it as a 1/1 rhythm
2017-03-09 21:43 Protastic101: 01:32:004 (92004|3) - for this, I decided against adding a 1/2 note here since I wanted the LN to lead into the next section by giving the player a small rest
2017-03-09 21:44 Protastic101: I also think that the synth kind of overshadows the 1/2 at that point, which kind of made the sound even more irrelevant
2017-03-09 21:44 Antalf: but one question, whats your justification for leaving it 1/2?
2017-03-09 21:45 Protastic101: I said above. It's a continuation of the section with only 1/2 singles at 01:21:063 -
2017-03-09 21:45 Antalf: oke, krool
2017-03-09 21:45 Protastic101: I left the 1/2 there to keep a slightly higher nps than the previous section to represent the building of the music
2017-03-09 21:47 Antalf: wts my mouse bugged one sec
2017-03-09 21:48 Protastic101: rip mouse lmao
2017-03-09 21:48 Antalf: IM DUMB A F
2017-03-09 21:48 Antalf: I LEFT THE PENCIL IN THE TABLET
2017-03-09 21:48 Protastic101: wut'd you do?
2017-03-09 21:48 Protastic101: lmao wtf
2017-03-09 21:48 Antalf: no wonder it was static in one place
2017-03-09 21:48 Protastic101: #JusttabletProblems
2017-03-09 21:49 Antalf: 01:58:034 (118034|2,118210|3,118740|1,118916|0,119446|2,119622|1) - wotofok are this for
2017-03-09 21:49 Protastic101: the synth
2017-03-09 21:49 Protastic101: Im probably just going to make them all [12] or [34], cause the other arrangements are cancer
2017-03-09 21:49 Antalf: im preeeeeeeeeeetty sure you can represent them with the doubles D:
2017-03-09 21:50 Protastic101: What, you mean make the synth a jump?:
2017-03-09 21:51 Antalf: im talking about removin those and leavin the jumps 01:58:475 (118475|3,118475|2,118652|3,118652|2,118828|3,118828|2,119004|3,119004|2) -
2017-03-09 21:52 Antalf: 02:11:004 (131004|0) - 1/2 ln here?
2017-03-09 21:52 Protastic101: but the synth is the same as the notes like at 01:55:916 (115916|2,116093|1) - or 01:55:210 (115210|1,115387|0) - or 01:56:622 (116622|0,116799|3) -
2017-03-09 21:52 Protastic101: ooo, this section is a mess :thinking:
2017-03-09 21:52 Protastic101: Lemme see
2017-03-09 21:53 Antalf: there you can add some pretty cool complementary LNs for the synth
2017-03-09 21:53 Protastic101: I want to keep the section LNless, as kind of like a precursor to the handstream at 02:17:534 -
2017-03-09 21:53 Protastic101: I'll add some SVs for the synth though
2017-03-09 21:54 Antalf: this i just me i think but i think your putting too much stress on the right hand starting from here 02:11:004 (131004|0) -
2017-03-09 21:56 Antalf: 03:25:299 - AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
2017-03-09 21:56 Protastic101: I don't really see it. Maybe from 02:12:946 - to 02:13:652 - a bit, but the rest has a pretty even balance on both hands
2017-03-09 21:56 Protastic101: Oh, I changed that alreadyu
2017-03-09 21:56 Protastic101: already*
2017-03-09 21:56 Protastic101: It's now consistent with the beginning section
2017-03-09 21:56 Antalf: move this to 1 03:19:652 (199652|2) -
2017-03-09 21:57 Antalf: seriously that whast the most triggering thing when i played it
2017-03-09 21:58 Protastic101: moved the LN right before it to 1
2017-03-09 21:58 Antalf: 03:32:357 - 03:32:710 - 03:33:063 - 03:33:416 - fam teh doubles
2017-03-09 21:58 Antalf: same for that part further on
2017-03-09 21:59 Protastic101: idk, I feel like at the start it's too quiet for a jump
2017-03-09 22:00 Antalf: intense anchor incoming 03:53:534 (233534|1,233622|2,233799|1,233887|2,233975|1,234152|2,234240|1,234328|2,234416|1,234593|2,234681|1,234857|2,234946|1,235034|2,235122|1,235299|2,235299|1,235475|1,235563|2,235740|1,235828|2,236004|2,236004|1) -
2017-03-09 22:00 Protastic101: das not an anchor doh
2017-03-09 22:00 Antalf: then im dumb nvm
2017-03-09 22:00 Antalf: ok so
2017-03-09 22:00 Antalf: if you dont add the doubles there i feel like it just breaks consistency
2017-03-09 22:00 Protastic101: I mean, do you have a problem with it? Is it the trilly nature?
2017-03-09 22:01 Protastic101: You want me to add a jumptrill?
2017-03-09 22:01 Antalf: oh hell no
2017-03-09 22:01 Antalf: just give col 4 a bit more of love
2017-03-09 22:01 Antalf: that handstream is fine
2017-03-09 22:02 Protastic101: o, ur rite
2017-03-09 22:02 Antalf: or in another words
2017-03-09 22:02 Antalf: balance it a bit
2017-03-09 22:02 Protastic101: 03:50:710 - first tho, i need to get rid of this cancer
2017-03-09 22:02 Antalf: oh you hadnt?
2017-03-09 22:02 Antalf: thats eye cancer as well
2017-03-09 22:02 Protastic101: Not yet
2017-03-09 22:02 Antalf: ACTION shot
2017-03-09 22:03 Antalf: ok ima be cold honest here, the sole existencce of this bother me 03:59:799 (239799|1,239799|3,239887|2,239887|0,239975|3,239975|1,240063|0,240063|2) -
2017-03-09 22:04 Protastic101: patterns getting so cancer I needed to switch to HD
2017-03-09 22:04 Protastic101: give me a sec
2017-03-09 22:05 Antalf: should i skip all the cancer patterns then?
2017-03-09 22:06 Protastic101: Nah, I was testing something else
2017-03-09 22:06 Antalf: well going back to dis, 03:59:799 (239799|1,239799|3,239887|2,239887|0,239975|3,239975|1,240063|0,240063|2) -
2017-03-09 22:06 Protastic101: alright
2017-03-09 22:06 Protastic101: so those trills
2017-03-09 22:06 Antalf: i really dont suggest you arrange it like that
2017-03-09 22:07 Protastic101: The thing is, I need to vary the type of complementary chords I used, and since this is 4k, there's only 3 possibilites
2017-03-09 22:07 Antalf: my only reason, the long a f 1/8 stream / handstream / jumpstream w/e
2017-03-09 22:07 Protastic101: what I did to try and make it easier on the player though, was I interspersed [12][34] jumps around every 3 trills
2017-03-09 22:08 Protastic101: And Im not going to use jacks because that would give me eye cancer
2017-03-09 22:08 Antalf: EW, JACKS
2017-03-09 22:09 Protastic101: exactly
2017-03-09 22:09 Antalf: oke let me try to express my self better.. I really suggest you use another pattern because IMO, AND JUST IMO, that pattern is a bit too hard considering you just finished the hell of a stream back there
2017-03-09 22:09 Protastic101: I've kind of been leading up to this the entire time though, with all the hand streams and trills within those earlier handstreams
2017-03-09 22:10 Protastic101: this dense handstream shouldn't be coming as a surprise to someone as this is the most intense part of the song
2017-03-09 22:10 Protastic101: 04:31:652 - I also give little rest breaks during places like this where I bring the density down to mostly singles + 2 hands
2017-03-09 22:11 Antalf: modding 5* is a pain..
2017-03-09 22:11 Antalf: 04:46:034 (286034|1,286122|2,286210|1,286299|2,286475|1,286563|2,286740|1,286828|2,286916|1,287004|2,287093|1,287269|2,287357|1,287534|1,287534|2) -
2017-03-09 22:11 Antalf: can we not
?
2017-03-09 22:11 Protastic101: was dat
2017-03-09 22:12 Antalf: my issue around there is the inmense usage of col 2 and 3
2017-03-09 22:12 Antalf: im really not gonna touch the other part since i think its fine as it is (?
2017-03-09 22:12 Protastic101: The reason I use it so much is to avoid too much turning on the hand streams
2017-03-09 22:13 Antalf: well thats tru i guess..
2017-03-09 22:13 Protastic101: If you play it, it's actually pretty linear since it doesn't change direction too often
2017-03-09 22:13 Antalf: but think about stamina tho
2017-03-09 22:13 Antalf: 05:12:063 (312063|1,312328|1) - this almost made me cry
2017-03-09 22:14 Protastic101: and when it does change direction, like with 04:46:740 (286740|1,286828|2,286916|1,287004|2,287093|1) - , it's done so that the player can't gather enough moment to make it a problem
2017-03-09 22:14 Protastic101: but shields :/
2017-03-09 22:14 Antalf: yeah im totally against that one
2017-03-09 22:14 Antalf: i dont think its necessary at all
2017-03-09 22:14 Protastic101: I like it cause the hand movement is a bit different from the other notes in the section in that it's more random and unpredictable
2017-03-09 22:15 Protastic101: It's also played similarly to a 3/4 rhythm, but you just have to release the LN and immediately hit the note again which isn't that bad. I also give 1/2 beat of rest between the shield and the next note on the left hand at 05:12:504 (312504|0) -
2017-03-09 22:16 Antalf: well ima be honest i really dont like it as such but if you want to keep at as that
2017-03-09 22:17 Protastic101: if someone else says something about it, I'll consider changing it, but I think the pattern is fine as is to hit
2017-03-09 22:18 Antalf: this is just a sole opinion, ignore if you want: Move all this to col 1? 05:15:593 (315593|2,316299|2,317004|2) -
2017-03-09 22:19 Protastic101: the pattern there is one hand plays only the 1/1 rhythm, while the other hand alternates notes on the upbeat
2017-03-09 22:19 Protastic101: Basically, I isolated the hands there to play different things. So it's like a forced separation so that they don't cooperate with each other at all
2017-03-09 22:19 Antalf: thats
2017-03-09 22:19 Antalf: mean af
2017-03-09 22:19 Antalf: 05:17:887 - im 300000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% sure theres a sound here
2017-03-09 22:21 Protastic101: there is, but I wanted to use a 3/2 space there to accent the pause in the kicks
2017-03-09 22:21 Antalf: is it cool to ignotr that sound tho?
2017-03-09 22:22 Protastic101:
http://puu.sh/uC1rV.jpg unrelated but
2017-03-09 22:22 Protastic101: And yeah, I think it is. I didn't map it in the beginning at 00:12:946 - either
2017-03-09 22:22 Antalf: what
2017-03-09 22:22 Antalf: the actual
2017-03-09 22:22 Antalf: fuck
2017-03-09 22:22 Antalf: did i just read
2017-03-09 22:23 Protastic101: you just read #osumania in the modding association
2017-03-09 22:23 Antalf: holy jesus
2017-03-09 22:23 Antalf: so i guess thats it \o/
2017-03-09 22:23 Antalf: man i feel useless
2017-03-09 22:24 Protastic101: nooo
2017-03-09 22:24 Protastic101: it was helpful
2017-03-09 22:24 Protastic101: I basically remapped like 2 sections lol
2017-03-09 22:24 Protastic101: and killed a ton of inconsistencies
2017-03-09 22:24 Antalf: gonna upload the log, im not sure if,, fuck it ill leave it all