Kinda sad that this will always happen in osu! mapping.[ Sebastian ] wrote:
Standard BNs / NATs try not to showcase their bias challenge (Impossible).
there will always be bias in everythingMrMcMikey22 wrote:
Kinda sad that this will always happen in osu! mapping.[ Sebastian ] wrote:
Standard BNs / NATs try not to showcase their bias challenge (Impossible).
But at least I feel excited of my newest attempt of ranking my beatmap. (Because it's clearly gonna be a full set, in at least a few days.
the amount of deleted messages in the replies wtf (if you're not GMT you can't see lol)Kobold84 wrote:
beatmapsets/2119650/discussion/4452718/general#/4218390
A bit more drama.
UGH I almost forgot that the same 100 shitty circlejerking mappers can rank maps and nobody elseMrMcMikey22 wrote:
Wake up guys!
NEW OSU! MAPPING DRAMA!!!! O_O
So a BN named Malphs just got completely kicked out of the bn (From full bn to no bn...)
Because Malphs wanted to nominate various maps and also wanted to help others nominate their first ranked map.
And it was literally just 10 days after Maplhs became a full BN!!! xD
So yeah guys...
osu! mapping is truly better than ever with their complete biasedness -w-
To me I think the reason why this BN got kicked was probably because the NAT got so jealous of this BN that they decided to completely kick him out.
i actually saw that video a few days ago and the fact that he got kicked off the BN team as well as the fact that they transformed reality by saying that he was nominating "low standards" beatmaps is just mind-blowing. i'd like to hear from the people who voted for him to be out even though he was actually helping small promising mappers to add another map in their ranked collection instead of only nominating weird maps made by known mappers in the community. some people in the osu! community are just weirdos.MrMcMikey22 wrote:
Wake up guys!
NEW OSU! MAPPING DRAMA!!!! O_O
maaaaaaaaaaaaaanCorne2Plum3 wrote:
the amount of deleted messages in the replies wtf (if you're not GMT you can't see lol)Kobold84 wrote:
beatmapsets/2119650/discussion/4452718/general#/4218390
A bit more drama.
Also why no more people uses this feature instead of writing wall of text like this?
example
That absolutely counts as mapping drama, that is NOT A HEALTHY WAY TO COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE!!![ Sebastian ] wrote:
https://twitter.com/visionarywww/status/1764750318276166089
This is happening if that counts as mapping drama.
yes[ Sebastian ] wrote:
Does this constitute mapping drama? https://twitter.com/_Stpl/status/1768559865390317884
this aint even about mapping but im a good 2/3 on this one[ Sebastian ] wrote:
https://twitter.com/notwafurry/status/1776241485798576417?t=Yhh9-3NIPW_a8VzLYkmg5w&s=19
So this one's a little bit weird. Wafer made a tweet saying that everyone that bashes him is either transphobic, homophobic, and / or very right-leaning (Conservative), and some people have called him out for it saying that he is calling everyone who criticizes him a bigot.
Twitter/X username checkout[ Sebastian ] wrote:
https://twitter.com/notwafurry/status/1776241485798576417?t=Yhh9-3NIPW_a8VzLYkmg5w&s=19
So this one's a little bit weird. Wafer made a tweet saying that everyone that bashes him is either transphobic, homophobic, and / or very right-leaning (Conservative), and some people have called him out for it saying that he is calling everyone who criticizes him a bigot.
that's why you don't use twitter guys[ Sebastian ] wrote:
https://twitter.com/notwafurry/status/1776241485798576417?t=Yhh9-3NIPW_a8VzLYkmg5w&s=19
So this one's a little bit weird. Wafer made a tweet saying that everyone that bashes him is either transphobic, homophobic, and / or very right-leaning (Conservative), and some people have called him out for it saying that he is calling everyone who criticizes him a bigot.
not a mapping drama[ Sebastian ] wrote:
https://twitter.com/notwafurry/status/1776241485798576417?t=Yhh9-3NIPW_a8VzLYkmg5w&s=19
So this one's a little bit weird. Wafer made a tweet saying that everyone that bashes him is either transphobic, homophobic, and / or very right-leaning (Conservative), and some people have called him out for it saying that he is calling everyone who criticizes him a bigot.
not even drama it's jsut a tweet sebastian didn't like looking at the actual replies there doesn't to be much of a conflictHydreigon wrote:
mapper drama
Lol yeah peppy had to get involvedCorne2Plum3 wrote:
We should add the Sotarks Pika Girl drama
We can't you invented this community to experiment on all of usabraker wrote:
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So nobody tried updating this in my stead? how do ya'll function without me?
Ashton wrote:
We can't you invented this community to experiment on all of usabraker wrote:
> last edited by abraker 16 months ago
So nobody tried updating this in my stead? how do ya'll function without me?
realabraker wrote:
Ashton wrote:
We can't you invented this community to experiment on all of usabraker wrote:
> last edited by abraker 16 months ago
So nobody tried updating this in my stead? how do ya'll function without me?
the number of ot overlords is surprisingly few compared to the number of people willing to update thisabraker wrote:
> last edited by abraker 16 months ago
So nobody tried updating this in my stead? how do ya'll function without me?
ah ye old missing variety argument- Marco - wrote:
beatmapsets/2205633/discussion/-/generalAll#/4533793
Comically sized newspaperreffty_gag wrote:
idk why but it feels like a giant newspaper about mapping
No way he's going back to BNG tooMcEndu wrote:
beatmapsets/2213604/discussion/-/generalAll#/4481167
https://bn.mappersguild.com/message?eval=66ae46a50bba5e5f1d2e3adc
Deer mapper vetoing another deer map. Veto is dismissed and interpreted as a personal attack; vetoer is removed from BNG.
average ctb schizo[ Sebastian ] wrote:
This goes hard
I think so.- Marco - wrote:
beatmapsets/2229169/discussion/-/generalAll#/4639592
Does it count?
i dont know how the fuck it was handled so poorly like communication is just a luxury at this pointCorne2Plum3 wrote:
I think so.- Marco - wrote:
beatmapsets/2229169/discussion/-/generalAll#/4639592
Does it count?
Also wtf is going on? I don't think this is how you should handle a collab...
It's even more juicy if you gmtColdTooth wrote:
i dont know how the fuck it was handled so poorly like communication is just a luxury at this pointCorne2Plum3 wrote:
I think so.- Marco - wrote:
beatmapsets/2229169/discussion/-/generalAll#/4639592
Does it count?
Also wtf is going on? I don't think this is how you should handle a collab...
niat0004 wrote:
beatmapsets/2149578/discussion/4528432/general#/4332555/11585510 - TL;DR: mapper refuses to change questionable diff name and changes other maps' diff names to the same thing, gets long silence.Full explanationThe mapper had been asked to change a questionable difficulty name and complied.
The mapper then changes it again and refuses to change it back, even when a Global Moderator (Nukrid was in the GMT at the time) intervenes.
The map was briefly deleted, around 7 - 12 UTC, and is then reinstated with a locked discussion.
The mapper proceeds to change the difficulty name onone of their other setsmake that two of their other sets. (Koiseyo Otome! & pieces)
For this, they are given a 43-hour silence for "repeated inappropriate beatmap submission conduct".
*Technically 42h40m (5*2⁹ minutes)
The difficulty name was reverted, and the discussion unlocked, on Koiseyo Otome after 9 days.
For Blooming Kiss, it was 19 days.
pieces still hasn't been reverted to this day.
There were a couple of follow-up controversies: The map being vetoed, mediated and upheld, and remediated due to changes and dismissed.
There was also the separate debate regarding a different difficulty name.
It got fairly heated - someone got a message deleted for being insulting, and (in my opinion) exaggerated the harm of the difficulty name.
I was about to reply with this post before the discussion was locked:ColdTooth wrote:
niat0004 wrote:
beatmapsets/2149578/discussion/4528432/general#/4332555/11585510 - TL;DR: mapper refuses to change questionable diff name and changes other maps' diff names to the same thing, gets long silence.Full explanationThe mapper had been asked to change a questionable difficulty name and complied.
The mapper then changes it again and refuses to change it back, even when a Global Moderator (Nukrid was in the GMT at the time) intervenes.
The map was briefly deleted, around 7 - 12 UTC, and is then reinstated with a locked discussion.
The mapper proceeds to change the difficulty name onone of their other setsmake that two of their other sets. (Koiseyo Otome! & pieces)
For this, they are given a 43-hour silence for "repeated inappropriate beatmap submission conduct".
*Technically 42h40m (5*2⁹ minutes)
The difficulty name was reverted, and the discussion unlocked, on Koiseyo Otome after 9 days.
For Blooming Kiss, it was 19 days.
pieces still hasn't been reverted to this day.
There were a couple of follow-up controversies: The map being vetoed, mediated and upheld, and remediated due to changes and dismissed.
There was also the separate debate regarding a different difficulty name.
It got fairly heated - someone got a message deleted for being insulting, and (in my opinion) exaggerated the harm of the difficulty name.
mfw i complied with just changing my bg on furrymon because i wanted to be funny for a short period of time but this guy wont change the implied sexual nature of the difficulty name with the context of it being from an eroge
osu players are cooked...
Yes, but there is not much of a reason to believe precedent applies on difficulty names unless they were recent (a couple of months or so).Paradoxal wrote:
a similar (arguably worse) diff name was used in another ranked set by tomatas which was also eroge
Fair enough - the claim that the map being of an eroge song is somehow an aggravating circumstance doesn't have much basis in... any moderation decision, ever.tomatas95 wrote:
I still don't get how would a person with a common sense would find an eroge song have "extra weight" to critisize the difficulty name in their own right, [...]
All right, here's the primary argument: I don't think most people would phrase it "only touch me!" if they meant hand-holding, dating, etc.; rather, they would (as examples) say "please only hold my hand" / "only kiss me", as when you say "only touch me", people think of sexual touching, as it has a sort of euphemistic meaning. To add to bokeru, "words have meanings", and they have different meanings based on context, including the context of the rest of the sentence/paragraph/text, but also historical and linguistic context of how that word is used.tomatas95 wrote:
[...] touching isn't only considered sexual, it has lots of different meanings [...] I've yet to read a good argument as to how on earth this is considered sexual
Admittedly, yes, this is very subjective, but a lot of moderation decisions involving near-ranked maps are. That's why we have the Content Voting Process and Content Review.Paradoxal & tomatas95 wrote:
- this is a very subjective topic
- [...] it's up to you for making it [the difficulty name] to be sexual.
if that gets ranked im ceasing to exist (in minecraft)Corne2Plum3 wrote:
osu players don't know how to have fun anymore, that map is fucking sick and unique, it literally doesn't harm the game to have cool maps just for the sake of having cool mapsColdTooth wrote:
if that gets ranked im ceasing to exist (in minecraft)Corne2Plum3 wrote:
The maps that push star rating onward always tend to be whack shit. Monstata's A-L-I-E-N comes to mind. That was pushing 8 stars at its time. forum/p/5130871 Mappers now know how to map 8 stars better, but it was completely unknown territory at the time. Same with 12 star and this map nowPatatitta wrote:
osu players don't know how to have fun anymore, that map is fucking sick and unique, it literally doesn't harm the game to have cool maps just for the sake of having cool mapsColdTooth wrote:
if that gets ranked im ceasing to exist (in minecraft)Corne2Plum3 wrote:
this 12* has the same energy as my let's get a move on top diff in the sense that there's a long stream burst that's quite a bit out from the restabraker wrote:
The maps that push star rating onward always tend to be whack shit. Monstata's A-L-I-E-N comes to mind. That was pushing 8 stars at its time. forum/p/5130871 Mappers now know how to map 8 stars better, but it was completely unknown territory at the time. Same with 12 star and this map nowPatatitta wrote:
osu players don't know how to have fun anymore, that map is fucking sick and unique, it literally doesn't harm the game to have cool maps just for the sake of having cool mapsColdTooth wrote:
if that gets ranked im ceasing to exist (in minecraft)Corne2Plum3 wrote:
