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iMega
dq pls lmao
Nyxa
Yay it's a Jenny
Proxy


no dq pls
Vuelo Eluko

Woddles wrote:



no dq pls
Yuudachi-kun
They'll find a reason.
Vuelo Eluko

B-] wrote:

Yes I do not think any map should be impassable with hr. That's just stupid. DT is understandable of course.
technically any map is passable with DT, if the skill is there, since it can't increase the HP to a point where even an SS is a fail
Yuudachi-kun
I think he means humanly passable; you aren't going to pass DT mad machine.
Charm

Kheldragar wrote:

I think he means humanly passable; you aren't going to pass DT mad machine.
uh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWd-GIhqiQI
Yuudachi-kun
My god


Okay, I change it to passing DT FD4D
Inteno
Oh god, this map is pure beauty.

I really like it alot.
Vuelo Eluko

Kheldragar wrote:

My god


Okay, I change it to passing DT FD4D
ya just gotta bullshit the streams, its not necessary to do 405 bpm to pass them, just like its not necessary to do 270 to pass the shorter delrio streams :^)
PatZar
:O
Spayyce
waiting for a Tom(tm) pp weight change to HR that makes the pp go down 60pp or something
Hitorikko

[ Space ] wrote:

waiting for a Tom(tm) pp weight change to HR that makes the pp go down 60pp or something
:D
AustinsGuitar
lol tom the "needs less pp now" man
Charm

Riince wrote:

Kheldragar wrote:

My god


Okay, I change it to passing DT FD4D
ya just gotta bullshit the streams, its not necessary to do 405 bpm to pass them, just like its not necessary to do 270 to pass the shorter delrio streams :^)
Timefreeze DT?
Nyxa

Kheldragar wrote:

My god


Okay, I change it to passing DT FD4D
I was so expecting another youtube video after this post

Just stick to DT Rainbow Dash Likes Girls
Vuelo Eluko

Tess wrote:

Kheldragar wrote:

My god


Okay, I change it to passing DT FD4D
I was so expecting another youtube video after this post

Just stick to DT Rainbow Dash Likes Girls
pretty sure C 1x missed that with relax
silmarilen

Riince wrote:

Tess wrote:

I was so expecting another youtube video after this post

Just stick to DT Rainbow Dash Likes Girls
pretty sure C 1x missed that with relax
was that before or after he 4mod fc'd that tag4 map?
Jerome
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Garven
Hi Jenny,

We need to disqualify your map due to the massive slowdown slider. Try to make the transition more natural as it is very abrupt as it stands (nearly a magnitude of difference between the BPM and velocity change). A word of advice for your future maps: if you plan on making a slider such as this, I highly recommend that you try to stay within the bounds of the editor first, then look to options beyond it after exhausting standard means. You have .75x available that haven't been used that could also help towards transitioning to this long slider.

Some additional notes:

Your stack leniency is set really low, but there weren't any patterns that really require that and your consecutive 1/2 stacks weren't stacking properly. You should raise this if you don't have any advanced patterns that require this setting.

If possible, could you reduce the intensity of the white transition flashes in the storyboard?

I had a few issues seeing the brown combo color against the cloudy background, but others were fine with it.
XiMerx
RIP 600pp score
azer467
rip index
Topic Starter
Jenny
Rank was a nice joke, huh..
Proxy
rest in peace :C
Kyubey
Slider is well readable though. And sliderpoints help with it, but whatever. Jenny, call me for re-bubble/re-qualify when ready.
Mismagius
I'm usually alright with unranking maps but this one was the most unnecessary unrank ever, and you even made up 'additional comments' that wouldn't improve the map in any way just so you could back up the reason that "this map needs improvement"?

geez..
Topic Starter
Jenny
I'd also argue that the slow but steadily (and quite aggressive) "train squeaking", as I call it, does call for exactly this: a very very slowly progressing hold note, one that forces you to focus again.

This part doesn't sound appropriate for either the glorious "fix-it-all spinner" (since it's a slow and grinding note- seriously, who's mind goes "LET'S SPIN AS FAST AS POSSIBLE RIGHT NOW" when hearing this part?) or a breaktime (break, no pressure at all, no focus, take the pen off the tablet or hand off the mouse, what does it matter what happens, it's a faqqing breaktime) - it's a tense moment between the two sections and that's why it draws so much attention and focus.


One shouldn't be obliged to chose between following/complimenting the music and getting their map ranked, specifically when it's about such a trivial issue, which isn't even one for most people playing (and succeeding at) the map in question, but that's my opinion.
Lanturn
Since this got dq'd. I'd like to point out there's an incorrect timing point about 2/3rds of the song during the 13/25% section. One of the heads is 13% making it impossible to hear. Not to mention that whole section is wxtremely quiet and should be raised.

I'll link the specific spot when I get home if you can't find it. I'm at work right now though.
Aka
well, i suggested to lenghten it before.. huh.
Jenny said plenty of testplays were OK with the slider so i dont even know what to think now
joolomasta
The map was already DQ'd one time because of that slider. How is it possible that it took the QAT team 6 days to notice that the slider was still the same?

Also, it doesn't really make sense that the reason for DQ is partly based on an untrue statement (there is a slowdown that uses 0.75x contrary to what the post says). The stack leniency setting has no effect on the map itself so it cannot be a reason for disqualification, neither the white flashes in the storyboard. I haven't heard players complaining about that slider, either. This leaves us with nothing warranting a DQ.

I hope that this is an April fools joke because if it isn't, it might be the most unreasonable disqualification in a long time. If you just want to DQ it, please at least try to find a better argument for the reason to do so.
hehe

joolomasta wrote:

The map was already DQ'd one time because of that slider. How is it possible that it took the QAT team 6 days to notice that the slider was still the same?
different reasons? first DQ was for too drain being too high on HR (fixed by adjusting HP), second was due to 'abruptness'. the slider being the same has no connection to both DQs.

joolomasta wrote:

Also, it doesn't really make sense that the reason for DQ is partly based on an untrue statement (there is a slowdown that uses 0.75x contrary to what the post says). The stack leniency setting has no effect on the map itself so it cannot be a reason for disqualification, neither the white flashes in the storyboard. I haven't heard players complaining about that slider, either. This leaves us with nothing warranting a DQ.

Garven wrote:

Some additional notes:.
fuel your QAT hate somewhere else. (quite sure garven meant using more of the playfield for the slider, not SV)
Topic Starter
Jenny

handsome wrote:

joolomasta wrote:

The map was already DQ'd one time because of that slider. How is it possible that it took the QAT team 6 days to notice that the slider was still the same?
different reasons? first DQ was for too drain being too high on HR (fixed by adjusting HP), second was due to 'abruptness'. the slider being the same has no connection to both DQs.
Actually the first DQ was because I asked for it since there was repeated interest in making the map passable on HR; the slider didn't play any role in that at all.

@Lanturn: 06:42:555 (5) - if this is the slider you mean, sure I can fix that. won't upload for now though, no changes until this entire thing is cleared up.
joolomasta

handsome wrote:

fuel your QAT hate somewhere else. (quite sure garven meant using more of the playfield for the slider, not SV)
I had an argument to back my opinion. How you simply dismiss it as "QAT hate" and ignore the argument itself is not how civilised people discuss. You may disagree with me and that's fine but please at least provide a reason you do so instead of trying to play me down. If those points were just additional notes, they should not cause a DQ.

I'm not hating the QATs but i'm questioning the decision made here.
UndeadCapulet
If the DQ is due to the potential readability issues of the .1x SV, then I think the best solution is to stack 06:02:855 (4,5,1) - . This provides nearly half a second of stationary cursor, which is more than enough for the player to make any adjustments to an SV drop.

If the issue is because the SV is below editor boundaries, then you should probably just cut the slider at like 06:09:337 or so. I know that's not what you want to happen, but imo a 15 second long slider is pretty silly. Cutting it at around where the guitar echo dies out gives close to the feeling of intensity you're looking for while not being obnoxiously long and taking up a ton of the screen after the mandatory change to .5x SV.
xxdeathx
Happy April fool's...right?

RIGHT?
Ash Marley
That slider was ridiculous anyway. You shouldn't need to slider break on a sightread because the mapper made an out of place sudden super slowed down slider after a 2000+ combo. WWW minus 1 because of that unnecessary change in velocity. I'm sure many more messed up by that out of the blue slider.
Mismagius

Ash Marley wrote:

That slider was ridiculous anyway. You shouldn't need to slider break on a sightread because the mapper made an out of place sudden super slowed down slider after a 2000+ combo. WWW minus 1 because of that unnecessary change in velocity. I'm sure many more messed up by that out of the blue slider.
What do you suggest then? Criticizing and not giving any suggestion that would work better considering the comment from the mapper won't help much.
Lax_old_1

Ash Marley wrote:

That slider was ridiculous anyway. You shouldn't need to slider break on a sightread because the mapper made an out of place sudden super slowed down slider after a 2000+ combo. WWW minus 1 because of that unnecessary change in velocity. I'm sure many more messed up by that out of the blue slider.
Hmmmm? Jenny explained her reasoning behind that slider and it makes perfect sense to me.
Go read up on the discussion first dude.
Ash Marley

Lax wrote:

Ash Marley wrote:

That slider was ridiculous anyway. You shouldn't need to slider break on a sightread because the mapper made an out of place sudden super slowed down slider after a 2000+ combo. WWW minus 1 because of that unnecessary change in velocity. I'm sure many more messed up by that out of the blue slider.
Hmmmm? Jenny explained her reasoning behind that slider and it makes perfect sense to me.
Go read up on the discussion first dude.
It doesn't change that it's too unexpected and inconsistent. The "rhythm" is killed at that point.
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