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Patatitta

Neigdoig wrote:

I am not really built for a vegan diet, as there's scientific evidence proving that it causes health problems. For examples, the toxins occurring naturally in plants cause health problems over time, which also leads to one's quality of life declining on a vegan diet, even if they seem to have been built for one.

To counteract this, and potentially fix my brain fog, I'm going on carnivore for 90 days to see if that fixes anything. I have a sneaking suspicion it will given the scientific evidence I had read myself. Otherwise, vegan or vegetarian diets do not work for me (I tried it, and fixed one health issue, but replaced it with another). The fact that I have autism is another reason why I'm going carnivore.
I'm autistic and I have no fucking clue what that has to do with going on a carnivore diet
Topic Starter
xch00F

Karmine wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

what the fuck


is that the new scyla
Unlike scyla this guy is 100% serious, his post history is... interesting.
he's made some very interesting posts on ffr's forums too, here's one of my personal favs:

Nugdoig wrote:

I believe tackling mental illness is simple:

Firstly, you may need to change your mindset a little bit. I'm a Messianic Jew, so this process is the longest.

Secondly, in the meantime, you could change what's on your plate. I don't eat anything with gluten, cow's milk, soy and refined sugar (the sugar part is pretty seldom, but I consume the wrong sweetener by accident sometimes). That, and cleansing parasites twice a year (every 6 months) works pretty well for my needs.

Lastly, and this is my opinion, it's because you're looking for someone to make fun of about almost anything. This for sure messes up some people's minds, so do something productive like music production, creative writing, or anything else productive in this way. I do that, but some of what I do requires communication.
funny to see the stereotypical toxic mentality of "you can just work through your mental illness bro" juxtaposed with gluten-free and juice cleanse nonsense
Corne2Plum3
I eat so few vegetables and fruits IRL that I do think I'm carnivore lol, and I'm going fine (for now at least)

I'm NOT telling you to do this too
Topic Starter
xch00F
it really is insane to me that people will basically brag about not eating fruits or veggies, especially when it's not an american
but I guess that's our fault anyway, obesity is one of our main exports nowadays

I feel like I have a pretty good personal reason to not eat meat
do y'all have a good personal reason to not eat vegetables too or does it boil down to the typical toddler tantrum of "Ew Veggies Icky Green Beans Bleh"
Polyspora

xch00F wrote:

it really is insane to me that people will basically brag about not eating fruits or veggies, especially when it's not an american
but I guess that's our fault anyway, obesity is one of our main exports nowadays

I feel like I have a pretty good personal reason to not eat meat
do y'all have a good personal reason to not eat vegetables too or does it boil down to the typical toddler tantrum of "Ew Veggies Icky Green Beans Bleh"

Having a protein exclusive diet is not that bad you know…


You could use the same childish argument for the opposite

“do y'all have a good personal reason to not eat meat too or does it boil down to the typical toddler tantrum of "owh poor naive animals getting murdered!””


Don’t be like that please
Achromalia

Polyspora wrote:

xch00F wrote:

it really is insane to me that people will basically brag about not eating fruits or veggies, especially when it's not an american
but I guess that's our fault anyway, obesity is one of our main exports nowadays

I feel like I have a pretty good personal reason to not eat meat
do y'all have a good personal reason to not eat vegetables too or does it boil down to the typical toddler tantrum of "Ew Veggies Icky Green Beans Bleh"
Having a protein exclusive diet is not that bad you know…
i doubt that's what was meant at all, although i imagine "the typical toddler tantrum of [ew veggies icky bleh]" doesn't help my interpretation, but i think they're expressing different things

we can generally assume the usual reason for vegetarian/vegan diets will include a firm moral argument involved somewhere in the middle. on the other hand, xch00f is describing a hypothetically-applicable scenario where people may Avoid vegetables specifically as a matter of taste rather than as an equivalent moral argument in its own right, and directing/testing that concept here in order to hear from people who Might have a personal reason that approximates that kind of moral argument... neither taste nor personal morality seems to match what you're describing, considering that you're specifically writing "protein-exclusive diet" rather than "meat-exclusive diet" or "meat-based diet", which implies to me that you're focusing on nutritional value

i mean, you may mean something like "[diets with desirable nutrients] are not that [morally bad or worth being particularly concerned about, it's good nutrition and/or generally trivial]", but then... well, i would let xch00f take it from there if this accurately represents you (which it might not, so, feel free to clarify!!)

completely pedantic from me, probably, but clarity is always cool and i like to make sure everyone sort of understands what's meant by each person so that they can weigh the scale of what is and isn't proportionate with each other's arguments :>
Topic Starter
xch00F

Polyspora wrote:

Having a protein exclusive diet is not that bad you know…

You could use the same childish argument for the opposite

“do y'all have a good personal reason to not eat meat too or does it boil down to the typical toddler tantrum of "owh poor naive animals getting murdered!””
not a moral equivalency, but I'm not even concerned about morals in the first place, I'm talking about the difference in self-perceived virtues of saying whether you don't eat meat or vegetables. a vegan proudly and sanctimoniously expressing that they don't meat is annoying as hell, we all know that, but generally speaking, we also know why they don't eat meat. people who proudly and sanctimoniously express that they don't eat vegetables and/or fruit often don't say why they don't, and I am genuinely interested in hearing why, because generally speaking, that boils down to personal taste. if a vegetarian/vegan were to say "Ew Meat Icky Fried Chicken Bleh" and that was their sole reason to not eat meat, that would also be childish. political activism is childish too but in a different way.

like I said, I don't need to get into my personal reasons, but I'll say that "owh poor naive animals getting murdered" is not one of them. aka

Karmine wrote:

Say you're vegan and people automatically assume you're one of those.
abraker

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

I eat so few vegetables and fruits IRL that I do think I'm carnivore lol, and I'm going fine (for now at least)

I'm NOT telling you to do this too
Do you hunt for your food or does it come to you out of fear?


Neigdoig wrote:

I am not really built for a vegan diet, as there's scientific evidence proving that it causes health problems. For examples, the toxins occurring naturally in plants cause health problems over time, which also leads to one's quality of life declining on a vegan diet, even if they seem to have been built for one.
WELL DONT FOCKING EAT NIGHTSHADE


Polyspora wrote:

Ymir wrote:

I love Sashimi, Salmon in particular. In fact, I usually have it without the soy sauce.
thats weird
???

... tho I like it better with karashi mayo or without anything. Not a huge fan of soy sause
Topic Starter
xch00F
Yeah I Tried Panera's New Datura Salad Once And Realized I'm Not Built For A Vegan Diet
Patatitta
i'm with xch00F, vegan diet and carnivore diet are NOT comparable from a ethical point of view, vegan is justified and carnivore feels more like counterculture than anything else
Achromalia

Patatitta wrote:

i'm with xch00F, vegan diet and carnivore diet are NOT comparable from a ethical point of view, vegan is justified and carnivore feels more like counterculture than anything else
i would say +1 because this might be closest to my position with it, and because i view this as being far more salient and representative of what's being observed

but with xch00f's clarification idk if ethical comparability is the frame of reference, it sounds like it really was about clarity of peoples' respective concepts of what virtues their positions possess. or maybe i'm misunderstanding all three of y'all;;

because, for example... poly may not really even be particularly concerned with ethics/morality either, and could instead just be focusing on the tone of xch00f's representation of that "ew vegetables" argument, when for xch00f it was probably moreso instrumental to a simple explanation of the nature of that taste versus perceived-virtue dynamic. idk, everyone's bringing a mixture of value systems and perceiving tone in each other's rhetoric in some awkward ways, which can complicate our understanding and ability to accurately reflect each other's intentions
Polyspora

xch00F wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

Having a protein exclusive diet is not that bad you know…

You could use the same childish argument for the opposite

“do y'all have a good personal reason to not eat meat too or does it boil down to the typical toddler tantrum of "owh poor naive animals getting murdered!””
not a moral equivalency, but I'm not even concerned about morals in the first place, I'm talking about the difference in self-perceived virtues of saying whether you don't eat meat or vegetables. a vegan proudly and sanctimoniously expressing that they don't meat is annoying as hell, we all know that, but generally speaking, we also know why they don't eat meat. people who proudly and sanctimoniously express that they don't eat vegetables and/or fruit often don't say why they don't, and I am genuinely interested in hearing why, because generally speaking, that boils down to personal taste. if a vegetarian/vegan were to say "Ew Meat Icky Fried Chicken Bleh" and that was their sole reason to not eat meat, that would also be childish. political activism is childish too but in a different way.

like I said, I don't need to get into my personal reasons, but I'll say that "owh poor naive animals getting murdered" is not one of them. aka

Karmine wrote:

Say you're vegan and people automatically assume you're one of those.
I never assumed you were one of those
Topic Starter
xch00F
"owh poor naive animals getting murdered" seemed to imply otherwise
Polyspora

Patatitta wrote:

i'm with xch00F, vegan diet and carnivore diet are NOT comparable from a ethical point of view, vegan is justified and carnivore feels more like counterculture than anything else
Nobody cares enough about the ethics of vegans to change their entire diet around it.

This only exists on the internet

What do exist is a diet exclusively on protein “overload”, that relies mostly on meat and eggs

Its some kind of “wake up call” for your digestive system so it can start working properly again.

Some nutritionists even recommend it for people that want some help in losing weight.
Polyspora

xch00F wrote:

"owh poor naive animals getting murdered" seemed to imply otherwise
It was to counter argument your shitty position on “me don’t like veggies”.

People have their reasons to eat what they eat and shaming it is extremely cringe
Achromalia

xch00F wrote:

"owh poor naive animals getting murdered" seemed to imply otherwise
imo this was mostly a rhetorical response that matched what poly interpreted from the tone of "ew veggies", the "childish argument" connotation i mean... although tbh i still think it isn't equivalent, especially when weighing "poor naive animals getting murdered" as intrinsically a childish sentiment, because again that's usually a moral distinction being made versus one of taste

in all honesty, with my biases, it's not so much the rhetorical example itself but what its delivery/framing implies about what poly considers to be childish, whether from a personal view or from a perceived image of what other people might see to be childish (edit: nevermind, seems like a personal perception of "what reality is" so-to-speak)

either way that's all missing the point ig

Polyspora wrote:

xch00F wrote:

"owh poor naive animals getting murdered" seemed to imply otherwise
It was to counter argument your shitty position on “me don’t like veggies”.
again, not equivalent (and i dont think this was xch00f arguing against anything either), and honestly i think it transformed a little once you repurposed the rhetoric through your lens
Topic Starter
xch00F

Polyspora wrote:

It was to counter argument your shitty position on “me don’t like veggies”.
I have been thoroughly owned by your equally dumb position

Polyspora wrote:

People have their reasons to eat what they eat and shaming it is extremely cringe
hence why I asked for the reason
Polyspora

xch00F wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

It was to counter argument your shitty position on “me don’t like veggies”.
I have been thoroughly owned by your equally dumb position
I didn’t take a position.

I swear Americans are the worst people to debate/argue with. (And not for the good reasons)
Topic Starter
xch00F

Polyspora wrote:

I didn’t take a position.
nor did I
Achromalia
man;; this is why we charitably clarify first :( although i suppose i'm not exempt, my responses may be equally annoying in some form either for being unneeded or for intruding in some way, unsure which is true if so

i don't think this is really even an "americans versus [x]" thing, this is more a matter of conflict of personality and perspective in which we happen to be from different countries, at most they're only relevant in that there's a vague correlation in what our perspectives are likely to be-- then again, i haven't seen what poly's seen, but i've never really appreciated those sweeping generalizations

and no poly is not a villain even if i'm biased here, but bias on its own isn't even really dictating what points i'm making beyond directing where my attention goes as a result of what i would perceive

xch00F wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

People have their reasons to eat what they eat and shaming it is extremely cringe
hence why I asked for the reason
this really did seem kind of simple after that clarification earlier, we're getting lost in the matter of tone and implication when the point itself was that xch00f wants to know what personal reasons people have in case they excluded vegetables/fruits from their diet

i suppose we got there now, with poly describing his frame of reference on nutrition, as i meant to express earlier
Lyawi

Wimpy Cursed wrote:

mmm yum
Topic Starter
xch00F

Achromalia wrote:

man;; this is why we charitably clarify first :( although i suppose i'm not exempt, my responses may be equally annoying in some form either for being unneeded or for intruding in some way, unsure which is true if so

i don't think this is really even an "americans versus [x]" thing, this is more a matter of conflict of personality and perspective in which we happen to be from different countries-- then again, i haven't seen what poly's seen, but i've never really appreciated those sweeping generalizations
I don't even know what poly's trying to debate or argue against
Achromalia

xch00F wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

man;; this is why we charitably clarify first :( although i suppose i'm not exempt, my responses may be equally annoying in some form either for being unneeded or for intruding in some way, unsure which is true if so

i don't think this is really even an "americans versus [x]" thing, this is more a matter of conflict of personality and perspective in which we happen to be from different countries-- then again, i haven't seen what poly's seen, but i've never really appreciated those sweeping generalizations
I don't even know what poly's trying to debate or argue against
primarily, in my opinion, it's the same impression poly just described-- he seems to believe that you were shaming people for excluding vegetables or generally prioritizing/valuing meat as a central part of their diet, as an implied element of "ew veggies bleh" and the way in which it was framed as childish

so i believe he tried to find some equal/reciprocal response for that, missing what your rhetoric actually was

you stated you hadn't taken a position on it, and i believe you, but that does seem like a believable interpretation of how events went here that might explain the arguments listed

i doubt either of you were even remotely looking for a debate, poly seems really tired of it general and you don't seem to particularly mean for that either, but i imagine it happened as a natural consequence of what you each were interpreting. my opinion and bias is that poly read escalated it uncharitably, but i also see "ew veggies bleh" as a viable trigger point because that in itself could be viewed as implying something even when it can just as easily be a simple characterization of the distinction of taste versus perceived virtue
Polyspora

xch00F wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

I didn’t take a position.
nor did I
Jesus Christ here we go


You took a position when you said “and why people are not becoming vegans!?!?!? Is it because they think veggies bad??? Like those TODDLERS that throw a TANTRUM???”

Here you invalidate people that refuse to eat veggies, expressing that their reasons are not legitimate

You think vegans got a legitimate reason and non vegetable eaters don’t, that’s why you tried to diminish them to the ridiculous, that’s your position, that’s where you came from, be it out of curiosity or spite.

In an attempt to show you that hey, maybe things aren’t like that

I tried inverting your phrase to an equally ridiculous statement, in hopes that you would notice that you said something not very nice and quite cringe.

Now, you see how I commented directly on your bad take and not on the ethics of vegans? Even if I used an example that attack those ethics?

Hope it’s more clear now
Achromalia

Polyspora wrote:

xch00F wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

I didn’t take a position.
nor did I
Jesus Christ here we go
You took a position when you said “and why people are not becoming vegans!?!?!? Is it because they think veggies bad??? Like those TODDLERS that throw a TANTRUM???”

Here you invalidate people that refuse to eat veggies, expressing that their reasons are not legitimate

You think vegans got a legitimate reason and non vegetable eaters don’t, that’s why you tried to diminish them to the ridiculous, that’s your position, that’s where you came from, be it out of curiosity or spite.

In an attempt to show you that hey, maybe things aren’t like that

I tried inverting your phrase to an equally ridiculous statement, in hopes that you would notice that you said something not very nice and quite cringe.

Now, you see how I commented directly on your bad take and not on the ethics of vegans? Even if I used an example that attack those ethics?

Hope it’s more clear now
understandable reasoning, the logic of it is internally consistent and it's easy enough to sympathize with

really my only position for this is that the initial interpretation of what xch00f meant was just incorrect and you operated with that in mind for the rest of that time, somewhat creating a self-fulfilling prophecy of presuming there ever was an argument about morality and childishness (which is reasonable, and i also think i operated with that possibility in mind until his clarification later)

ew, i dont really like my own framing of this either, i was kind of rushing to get it out bc idk when people are responding and i'd rather get everything in when i can

in essence i dont really blame you for the interpretation, really we just were inaccurately perceiving what we were trying to do to begin with

addendum: this is extremely ad-hominem of me but poly i also kind of am not surprised by the interpretation, i've always thought you tended to use a lot of hyperbolic misrepresentations of what people say, which i believe i've described/mentioned before... just, in general, i think you've grown so used to the image of activism and passionate beliefs that you've had to walk away from, to the point that maybe it starts to be absorbed and projected onto everyone's perspectives without really listening to what they mean when they say something. it seems like you assume some people to be unreasonable when they have positions that you either don't have or don't agree with. i don't mean to suggest you aren't trying either, it really seems like you are imo

if i'm mischaracterizing this then i would welcome clarification there as well

i'm also not in this to treat everyone equally or be perfectly fair, i'm mostly operating on what i think is reasonable and my biases and sources of discomfort lead me to be kind of cautious of that from you. maybe i really am misunderstanding, i can't really trust in this unless someone speaks up, but i imagine it would help each of us to be able to examine why we're saying what we're saying from a broader multi-faceted collection of subjective lenses
Topic Starter
xch00F

Polyspora wrote:

You took a position when you said “and why people are not becoming vegans!?!?!?"Is it because they think veggies bad??? Like those TODDLERS that throw a TANTRUM???”

Here you invalidate people that refuse to eat veggies, expressing that their reasons are not legitimate

You think vegans got a legitimate reason and non vegetable eaters don’t, that’s why you tried to diminish them to the ridiculous, that’s your position, that’s where you came from, be it out of curiosity or spite.

In an attempt to show you that hey, maybe things aren’t like that

I tried inverting your phrase to an equally ridiculous statement, in hopes that you would notice that you said something not very nice and quite cringe.

Now, you see how I commented directly on your bad take and not on the ethics of vegans? Even if I used an example that attack those ethics?

Hope it’s more clear now
the only thing that's clear now is that you made a massive erroneous leap in logic and it's mostly my fault for being shitposty, so let me be as clear as possible

You took a position when you said “and why people are not becoming vegans!?!?!?"
this was never my position, I genuinely have no clue how you came to this conclusion, but it does explain a lot of how you've responded thus far

Here you invalidate people that refuse to eat veggies, expressing that their reasons are not legitimate
no one but you has mentioned validity/legitimacy whatsoever. I was hoping that my refusal to elaborate on my personal reason beyond referring to it as "philosophical" would have signaled that validity/legitimacy isn't something I'm considering at all, because I can't

I'm not "shaming" corne (or you) for not being vegan, I was poking fun at whole "I eat so few vegetables and fruits IRL" thing, because I thought it was funny lol. not immoral, unethical, illegitimate, whatever sentiment you want to erroneously project onto it. apologies if you thought otherwise.

would you have taken issue with my post if it was just

I feel like I have a pretty good personal reason to not eat meat
do y'all have a good personal reason to not eat vegetables too
Polyspora
What the fuck is this lmao
Polyspora
One says there is a leap in logic

The other says the text is logic and cohesive

All your narrative changed as well

This is a shitshow I’m out
Topic Starter
xch00F
apology not accepted then, huh

Polyspora wrote:

One says there is a leap in logic

The other says the text is logic and cohesive

All your narrative changed as well

This is a shitshow I’m out
yeah, if the leap in logic that I pointed out had been accurate, everything you've posted thus far would have been logical and cohesive
Polyspora

xch00F wrote:

apology not accepted then, huh
Sorry the only person I could possibly read a whole essay from is achromalia

But if somewhere there you said sorry for whatever reason (I don’t see a motive for that, you were just standing your ground on what you believed you meant) then I accept it, I just want this to end I’m bored and a little stressed on typing so much
Achromalia

xch00F wrote:

the only thing that's clear now is that you made a massive erroneous leap in logic and it's mostly my fault for being shitposty
honestly being shitposty is often what i dislike about the internet, it's very very easy to create caricatures of each other as a result of it being culturally normalized. a lot of people don't really care, or they do but seem to be kind of one-sided about it or aren't entirely aware of their role in perpetuating it either... because usually the value of shitposts is in their perceived humor and often times also the satire involved. people love when something is funny, almost as though anything is justified if it's funny (although i don't think that was your belief, i'm describing this moreso to illustrate the contexts that i believe would make it easier to write this out)

but humor and serious beliefs with people who have varied perspectives, from which any one person might assume another to be antagonistic, tend not to mix well. a lot of major ideological conflict seems to stem from it or be enabled by it

xch00F wrote:

Here you invalidate people that refuse to eat veggies, expressing that their reasons are not legitimate
no one but you has mentioned validity/legitimacy whatsoever. I was hoping that my refusal to elaborate on my personal reason beyond referring to it as "philosophical" would have signaled that validity/legitimacy isn't something I'm considering at all, because I can't

I'm not "shaming" corne (or you) for not being vegan, I was poking fun at whole "I eat so few vegetables and fruits IRL" thing, because I thought it was funny lol. not immoral, unethical, illegitimate, whatever sentiment you want to erroneously project onto it. apologies if you thought otherwise.

would you have taken issue with my post if it was just

I feel like I have a pretty good personal reason to not eat meat
do y'all have a good personal reason to not eat vegetables too
i am reciting the "how to apologize" link again, not to discredit or bash you at all, but bc i notice this a lot lately from all kinds of people

but yeah,, humor is just hard to really justify for myself. this is why i'm always serious and cautious whenever possible, unless i already trust that we mutually are going to have fun with it-- but those are usually one-on-one interactions, meanwhile general statements/questions/rhetoric in our public posts tend to be harder to direct those intentions accurately with
Ashton
Let's all hug it out (metaphorically, we obviously can't hug irl because we are too far away from each other)
Corne2Plum3
69th post
Topic Starter
xch00F
i'll metaphorically hug ur dad
Achromalia

Ashton wrote:

Let's all hug it out (metaphorically, we obviously can't hug irl because we are too far away from each other)
hugs are nice :) im bad with them but that would be lovely
Topic Starter
xch00F
if ur ever in vegas hit me up for a hug and a hotdog
you can even get the full beef one, i don't mind
Achromalia

xch00F wrote:

if ur ever in vegas hit me up for a hug and a hotdog
you can even get the full beef one, i don't mind
:D

*collapses on the bed bc this is not feasible and i have no affordable options for transportation but also i do not want to be an object of expenditure therefore nothing ever happens at all*

*expresses that being seen is scary and being forced to be known in a tangible and barely-representative way is painful but so conflicting because vulnerability can be really sweet but it's impossible to trust in anything ever*

*sighs for the misfortunes of living beyond digital contexts and other things that i didnt express yet bc im tired and it is hard to think clearly :') inclusive of the potential gulf in maturity given this exact sequence of sentences outlining a hypothetically-entertained fleeting velleity that represents my own "newness" to reality*
abraker
dafuq this thread got like 30 new posts in 2h
guys this is diet not religion
Achromalia

abraker wrote:

dafuq this thread got like 30 new posts in 2h
guys this is diet not religion
yet, even diet has weighted and loaded connotations in sociocultural/sociopolitical discourse... many, many things do, even if they may not be as blatantly obvious as religion :( it isn't that these shouldn't have any weight, it's just unfortunate that they're often vehicles for so much more subtext than we're ready to account for, and we sometimes readily misperceive each other. it is those mistaken or antagonistic interactions that cause compulsive moments like these (compulsive, either because of an addiction to perceived correctness or to self-justification, or maybe something else i didn't think of yet while typing this), probably

...

or at least, that would probably be my take on it for now

our interactions...
...are rarely as simple as just "why might you not eat [meat / vegetables]? :o", as these questions are always capable of unwillingly/unintentionally carrying the ghosts of every cultural notion and implication that each participant and viewer interprets/perceives from everything that this question/subject is typically connected with. some people answer directly without the thought ever occurring that there could be a problem, but others may have seen a lot of something meaningful to them that has imprinted on their mind enough to become the most likely possibility to them for what that question is asking or maybe even insinuating

but sometimes, we misread and believe there to be insinuation where there isn't one, which is a fair mistake. we anticipate problems in order to prepare ourselves and each other, we try to find our priorities as soon as we take note of what's in our respective lines of sight. but experiential exclusivity often means we'll be kind of in the dark, taking shots at things that aren't there, grinding at our frames of reference through what makes sense to us specifically to justify our perspective and what we wish would exist or stop existing, rather than a mutually collaborative effort toward negotiation

...in a way, ideas and perspectives are likened to acts of violence through our arguments. diet, religion, all of these could probably be taken as proxies for that presumable violence, and we sometimes expect something to be going wrong, expecting damage to be dealt to us or others we believe would be unjustifiable targets. or something like that

...but then again, sometimes it is just food to someone else. who knows what each thing means to each person, because someone among us will truly believe this could not possibly mean anything other than the exact semantics of the sentence/phrase itself... and maybe they could be right this time

but i'm not you, so i would not know. i can only ask and assume, and assumption can make or break the nature of our interactions :o
Topic Starter
xch00F

abraker wrote:

religion
tbqh this is closer to my reasoning than any of the stereotypical vegan stuff lmao
z0z

xch00F wrote:

Yeah I Tried Panera's New Datura Salad Once And Realized I'm Not Built For A Vegan Diet
oreos and reese puffs are vegan

Lyawi wrote:

Wimpy Cursed wrote:

mmm yum
not even real grass
Wimpy Cursed

z0z wrote:

Lyawi wrote:

Wimpy Cursed wrote:

mmm yum
not even real grass
just fucking eat it, you ungrateful shit
Polyspora

abraker wrote:

dafuq this thread got like 30 new posts in 2h
guys this is diet not religion
love you brteaker
Achromalia

Polyspora wrote:

abraker wrote:

dafuq this thread got like 30 new posts in 2h
guys this is diet not religion
love you brteaker
love you airbaker <33
z0z

Wimpy Cursed wrote:

z0z wrote:

Lyawi wrote:

Wimpy Cursed wrote:

mmm yum
not even real grass
just fucking eat it, you ungrateful shit
oogly bougly microplastics in your balls
abraker

Achromalia wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

abraker wrote:

dafuq this thread got like 30 new posts in 2h
guys this is diet not religion
love you brteaker
love you airbaker <33
love you too achromacro
Ymir

abraker wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

abraker wrote:

dafuq this thread got like 30 new posts in 2h
guys this is diet not religion
love you brteaker
love you airbaker <33
love you too achromacro
damn, no love for poly?
Achromalia

abraker wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

abraker wrote:

dafuq this thread got like 30 new posts in 2h
guys this is diet not religion
love you brteaker
love you airbaker <33
love you too achromacro
:D

hey wait what abt poly dont leave him out :( abdomenraker dont be mean
Polyspora
so fucked up this world is so fucked up why wont abraker love me
Achromalia

Polyspora wrote:

so fucked up this world is so fucked up why wont abraker love me
let us performatively guilt him together

or not idk your choice but we have fun here :)
Patatitta

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

69th post
not the time corne, not the time
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