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Topic Starter
Offdensen
be cringe but free as long as it doesn't harm other people and isn't immorally wrong

signed,

the manager lover on osu rhythm game
Ymir
Reported for Cringe.
sametdze
saudi arabia?
Topic Starter
Offdensen

Ymir wrote:

Reported for Cringe.
bruh
Achromalia
hoping this becomes a legitimate "note from management" that just kindly gets revisited and elaborated on every week on the forum corkboard. you grab your cup of office water-tank water and watch it either be ceaselessly added onto or just be vandalized, but it remains there eternally in one form or another like your untouchably-normal well-adjusted supervisor

sip...

all is as it should be
Topic Starter
Offdensen

Achromalia wrote:

hoping this becomes a legitimate "note from management" that just kindly gets revisited and elaborated on every week on the forum corkboard. you grab your cup of office water-tank water and watch it either be ceaselessly added onto or just be vandalized, but it remains there eternally in one form or another like your untouchably-normal well-adjusted supervisor

sip...

all is as it should be
exactly you get it
Topic Starter
Offdensen

sametdze wrote:

saudi arabia?
what do you mean by this
sametdze
bushmaster xm15
Jangsoodlor
z0z

Offdensen wrote:

sametdze wrote:

saudi arabia?
what do you mean by this
islamic countries be like that
Duck o-o
What if the cringe itself harms me mentally and on a spiritual level
You havent seen some of the weird like anime cosplay/roleplay things ive seen ;-;
Topic Starter
Offdensen

Jangsoodlor wrote:

cawfee


z0z wrote:

Offdensen wrote:

sametdze wrote:

saudi arabia?
what do you mean by this
islamic countries be like that
OH! well!
Kobold84
Very true nya.
Corne2Plum3
This thread should be pinned
Winnyace
Some examples of bad behavior?
MrMcMikey22

Winnyace wrote:

Some examples?
me
Kaaruumii
oki doki
Winnyace

MrMcMikey22 wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Some examples?
me
?

I wasn't really asking for examples of people that aren't cringe or something like that. I was asking for examples for something that is bad in the eyes of OP. My bad for not specify.
Achromalia

Winnyace wrote:

MrMcMikey22 wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Some examples?
me
?

I wasn't really asking for examples of people that aren't cringe or something like that. I was asking for examples for something that is bad in the eyes of OP. My bad for not specify.
"be cringe but free" with the condition of "enables no harm & is not generally immoral", seems clear in principle

but ig it's also fair to note that a lot of how we interpret "cringe" & "harm" & "immoral" can be relativistic even when there are definitive expectations that a general impression of a society might have (and tangibly material-emotional-psychological effects), afaik

up to op if they wanna give their take, but if my opinion is an ok substitute then cringe is definitely exemplified by the "horny on all-ages forum + it's not that bad if it's fiction, therefore why should i have any substantive concern" vibe, which i think you're kind of ok about moderating so far, maybe, maybe

it's not that you have to feel guilty at all times or something, shame doesn't seem particularly constructive at all. i greatly doubt you interact with 15y/o girls online or irl and creep on them or something, i have far more faith in you than to assume that-- plus you're generally someone that seems at least somewhat introspective and considerate enough to draw these kinds of distinctions, but you're also a bit poorly-regulated so it seems like you don't know what to do with yourself other than escape to something else

and that can easily become a problem when it sabotages your relationships with women (and everyone else for reasons i could expand on, but of course probably not in any attraction-oriented capacity), and/or when it allows you to minimize/dismiss the underlying correlative patterns people associate with this kind of indifference and indulgence. idrk if that intrinsically says anything about you, or how much, if at all

but that's probably at least part of the "cringe"
insofar as how i think of it, it's really primarily in the realm of cringe (no more, no less) until further demonstrable that it's intersecting with irl problems, because then it has a definitively tangible effect on your perception of people

if you've heard something generalized-but-precedented like "men only seem to like the idea of women rather than the actual complicated flawed human beings themselves (such that any flaws a man might appreciate are selective and sometimes even trivial)", then this is probably an example of how fictional attraction can intersect with real life, because it seems to intuitively be common enough an effect given other contexts that approximate this

...

i apologize, though, for being kind of maybe(?) personally targeted about psychoanalyzing what i've seen of you. just wanted to give at least some kind of possible answer before people shitpost in sarcastic irony all over it, because the questions themselves seem genuine to me
xch00F

Achromalia wrote:

hoping this becomes a legitimate "note from management" that just kindly gets revisited and elaborated on every week on the forum corkboard. you grab your cup of office water-tank water and watch it either be ceaselessly added onto or just be vandalized, but it remains there eternally in one form or another like your untouchably-normal well-adjusted supervisor

sip...

all is as it should be
we rly should go back to corkboards, my last office had a bunch of whiteboards
*grabs a dry erase marker and changes "be cringe" to "be gay"
- Marco -
SO TRUE! SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS IT!
JustABeginner
r/im14andthisisdeep
z0z

JustABeginner wrote:

r/im14andthisisdeep
r/im15andthisisyeet
Achromalia

z0z wrote:

JustABeginner wrote:

r/im14andthisisdeep
r/im15andthisisyeet
r/im16anddasconkcreet
z0z

Achromalia wrote:

z0z wrote:

JustABeginner wrote:

r/im14andthisisdeep
r/im15andthisisyeet
r/im16anddasconkcreet
not a real subreddit
BluePyTheWDeer_
Ok
sametdze

z0z wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

z0z wrote:

JustABeginner wrote:

r/im14andthisisdeep
r/im15andthisisyeet
r/im16anddasconkcreet
not a real subreddit
it is now
z0z

sametdze wrote:

z0z wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

z0z wrote:

JustABeginner wrote:

r/im14andthisisdeep
r/im15andthisisyeet
r/im16anddasconkcreet
not a real subreddit
it is now
bro what
Serraionga
I will now start harming other people.

Best Regards,
The User Who Does A Little Trolling
Achromalia

Serraionga wrote:

I will now start harming other people.

Best Regards,
The User Who Does A Little Trolling
[* i immediately dislike you]

[* worst regards,]
[* the user who is joking]

sametdze wrote:

z0z wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

z0z wrote:

JustABeginner wrote:

r/im14andthisisdeep
r/im15andthisisyeet
r/im16anddasconkcreet
not a real subreddit
it is now
i adore you for this
Winnyace

Achromalia wrote:

serious answer to my question towards op
"be cringe but free" with the condition of "enables no harm & is not generally immoral", seems clear in principle

but ig it's also fair to note that a lot of how we interpret "cringe" & "harm" & "immoral" can be relativistic even when there are definitive expectations that a general impression of a society might have (and tangibly material-emotional-psychological effects), afaik

up to op if they wanna give their take, but if my opinion is an ok substitute then cringe is definitely exemplified by the "horny on all-ages forum + it's not that bad if it's fiction, therefore why should i have any substantive concern" vibe, which i think you're kind of ok about moderating so far, maybe, maybe

it's not that you have to feel guilty at all times or something, shame doesn't seem particularly constructive at all. i greatly doubt you interact with 15y/o girls online or irl and creep on them or something, i have far more faith in you than to assume that-- plus you're generally someone that seems at least somewhat introspective and considerate enough to draw these kinds of distinctions, but you're also a bit poorly-regulated so it seems like you don't know what to do with yourself other than escape to something else

and that can easily become a problem when it sabotages your relationships with women (and everyone else for reasons i could expand on, but of course probably not in any attraction-oriented capacity), and/or when it allows you to minimize/dismiss the underlying correlative patterns people associate with this kind of indifference and indulgence. idrk if that intrinsically says anything about you, or how much, if at all

but that's probably at least part of the "cringe"
insofar as how i think of it, it's really primarily in the realm of cringe (no more, no less) until further demonstrable that it's intersecting with irl problems, because then it has a definitively tangible effect on your perception of people

if you've heard something generalized-but-precedented like "men only seem to like the idea of women rather than the actual complicated flawed human beings themselves (such that any flaws a man might appreciate are selective and sometimes even trivial)", then this is probably an example of how fictional attraction can intersect with real life, because it seems to intuitively be common enough an effect given other contexts that approximate this

...

i apologize, though, for being kind of maybe(?) personally targeted about psychoanalyzing what i've seen of you. just wanted to give at least some kind of possible answer before people shitpost in sarcastic irony all over it, because the questions themselves seem genuine to me
Thank you for the serious answer. No issue psychoanalyzing. As long as it is shared in a respectful manner, I don't really mind.
Topic Starter
Offdensen

Kobold84 wrote:

Very true nya.
exactly!

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

This thread should be pinned
maybe.

MrMcMikey22 wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Some examples?
me
no just me actually

Kaaruumii wrote:

oki doki
yippee!
Topic Starter
Offdensen

Serraionga wrote:

I will now start harming other people.

Best Regards,
The User Who Does A Little Trolling

WHAT!!!!
Achromalia

Offdensen wrote:

be cringe but free as long as it doesn't harm other people and isn't immorally wrong

signed,

the manager lover on osu rhythm game
weekly reminder #1
ghr14

Serraionga wrote:

I will now start harming other people.

Best Regards,
The User Who Does A Little Trolling
*Thumbs_up*
Blushing
when is it my turn to be cringe :/ i need my cringe arc fr
Achromalia

Blushing wrote:

when is it my turn to be cringe :/ i need my cringe arc fr
you are not allowed, global moderator #xxx (callsign "blushing") <3
abraker
> doesn't harm other people and isn't immorally wrong

thank you for making an exception for trolling
Achromalia

abraker wrote:

> doesn't harm other people and isn't immorally wrong

thank you for making an exception for trolling
arguably, trolling-by-intent can cause harm-by-effect
Kobold84

Blushing wrote:

when is it my turn to be cringe :/ i need my cringe arc fr
I believe the onus to be cringe is simply out of your hands. The act of cringing falls onto others.
z0z

Achromalia wrote:

abraker wrote:

> doesn't harm other people and isn't immorally wrong

thank you for making an exception for trolling
arguably, trolling-by-intent can cause harm-by-effect
inciting emotions can be harmful
Achromalia

z0z wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

abraker wrote:

> doesn't harm other people and isn't immorally wrong

thank you for making an exception for trolling
arguably, trolling-by-intent can cause harm-by-effect
inciting emotions can be harmful
yes (i'm not sure if i understand the tone here, it seems sarcastic)?

and humans have conventionally been emotional creatures whose health often depends on psychological and/or social wellbeing (like depression, anhedonia, loneliness, impulsive anger, paralyzing grief), with somatic effects extending throughout their bodies as well as many characteristics like volition/motivation, ego, clarity of mind, dissociative detachment from the body's needs, et cetera

with the internet, it appears there existed a primacy of sardonic/sarcastic people who found it more reasonable to distance themselves from any emotional consequence, finding any reaction from other people to merely be funny. that would approximate my loose interpretation of what would be known as "trolling". as a consequence, there was also the expectation that people stop caring, and simply not take anything personally, and that the fault lies with the offended party, not the people creating the environment of offense (or otherwise absolving responsibility for consequence)

related to this, is the discourse of "offense =/= harm". opinions on that seem to vary wildly, but if we're speaking consequentially with regard for relative experience, it's not difficult to imagine that trolling is therefore possible to argue as being a form of comedy with *the potential* to cause harm

it's generally pretty important not to minimize the extent of what emotion can do-- and i hope you don't mean to be deliberately obtuse about this, if you were saying this to be sarcastic/ironic. if not, i apologize for... this, though i suppose it at least elaborates on the point
z0z

Achromalia wrote:

z0z wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

abraker wrote:

> doesn't harm other people and isn't immorally wrong

thank you for making an exception for trolling
arguably, trolling-by-intent can cause harm-by-effect
inciting emotions can be harmful
yes (i'm not sure if i understand the tone here, it seems sarcastic)?

and humans have conventionally been emotional creatures whose health often depends on psychological and/or social wellbeing (like depression, anhedonia, loneliness, impulsive anger, paralyzing grief), with somatic effects extending throughout their bodies as well as many characteristics like volition/motivation, ego, clarity of mind, dissociative detachment from the body's needs, et cetera

with the internet, it appears there existed a primacy of sardonic/sarcastic people who found it more reasonable to distance themselves from any emotional consequence, finding any reaction from other people to merely be funny. that would approximate my loose interpretation of what would be known as "trolling". as a consequence, there was also the expectation that people stop caring, and simply not take anything personally, and that the fault lies with the offended party, not the people creating the environment of offense (or otherwise absolving responsibility for consequence)

related to this, is the discourse of "offense =/= harm". opinions on that seem to vary wildly, but if we're speaking consequentially with regard for relative experience, it's not difficult to imagine that trolling is therefore possible to argue as being a form of comedy with *the potential* to cause harm

it's generally pretty important not to minimize the extent of what emotion can do-- and i hope you don't mean to be deliberately obtuse about this, if you were saying this to be sarcastic/ironic. if not, i apologize for... this, though i suppose it at least elaborates on the point
no sarcasm intended, i just thought a bit of rewording to make the relationship between things clear would help
Achromalia
i see :c i didnt pick up on that until you said so, but it makes sense now
xch00F
trolling is only morally good when you're using it to trojan horse an actual good point about whatever it is you're trolling about
Winnyace

xch00F wrote:

trolling is only morally good when you're using it to trojan horse an actual good point about whatever it is you're trolling about
Your point only gets muddier if you do so. Even if you're right, showing it by trolling can be easily interpreted wrongly, and in general, it is just a shitty way to express your point. Why not just say the point?
Winnyace

abraker wrote:

> doesn't harm other people and isn't immorally wrong

thank you for making an exception for trolling
Good to know that you believe trolling isn't at least a bit immoral man. I'm so happy you're a GMT dude.
xch00F

Winnyace wrote:

xch00F wrote:

trolling is only morally good when you're using it to trojan horse an actual good point about whatever it is you're trolling about
Your point only gets muddier if you do so. Even if you're right, showing it by trolling can be easily interpreted wrongly, and in general, it is just a shitty way to express your point. Why not just say the point?
some people are so terminally online and combative when their world views are challenged that the only way to get thru to them is to be just as terminally online and combative. I'm not talking about trite youtube comment trolling just to piss ppl with blank avatars and randomized usernames off, that all sucks and those folks aren't going to accept your point anyway
Winnyace

xch00F wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

xch00F wrote:

trolling is only morally good when you're using it to trojan horse an actual good point about whatever it is you're trolling about
Your point only gets muddier if you do so. Even if you're right, showing it by trolling can be easily interpreted wrongly, and in general, it is just a shitty way to express your point. Why not just say the point?
some people are so terminally online and combative when their world views are challenged that the only way to get thru to them is to be just as terminally online and combative. I'm not talking about trite youtube comment trolling just to piss ppl with blank avatars and randomized usernames off, that all sucks and those folks aren't going to accept your point anyway
Hmm... I see... I never thought about it like that.
Topic Starter
Offdensen

Achromalia wrote:

Offdensen wrote:

be cringe but free as long as it doesn't harm other people and isn't immorally wrong

signed,

the manager lover on osu rhythm game
weekly reminder #1
thank you

Blushing wrote:

when is it my turn to be cringe :/ i need my cringe arc fr
whenever you want bro. take your time always. trust

abraker wrote:

> doesn't harm other people and isn't immorally wrong

thank you for making an exception for trolling
i mean by like. not being a weirdo or being hateful. unlike some people here....
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