That's crazy, i remember people saying that threads were actually good. I guess it's just crazy people.Patatitta wrote:
probably since the inception of the forumFarfocele wrote:
Damn, when did it go cold?Patatitta wrote:
not a hot takeFarfocele wrote:
A lot of threads... are just not funny OR good. Honestly.
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no you don't get it threads are only ever good in retrospectiveFarfocele wrote:
That's crazy, i remember people saying that threads were actually good. I guess it's just crazy people.Patatitta wrote:
probably since the inception of the forumFarfocele wrote:
Damn, when did it go cold?Patatitta wrote:
not a hot takeFarfocele wrote:
A lot of threads... are just not funny OR good. Honestly.
I agree with it. I feel like the quality dropped since the last monthFarfocele wrote:
A lot of threads... are just not funny OR good. Honestly.
When people say "good old OT" they talk about a time when they were already complaining about "good old OT", it never existed.Patatitta wrote:
no you don't get it threads are only ever good in retrospectiveFarfocele wrote:
That's crazy, i remember people saying that threads were actually good. I guess it's just crazy people.Patatitta wrote:
probably since the inception of the forumFarfocele wrote:
Damn, when did it go cold?Patatitta wrote:
not a hot takeFarfocele wrote:
A lot of threads... are just not funny OR good. Honestly.
Damn I got ninja'd by a live example.
Don't be nostalgic for 1 month ago wtf
community/forums/topics/3583?n=1Farfocele wrote:
Damn, when did it go cold?Patatitta wrote:
not a hot takeFarfocele wrote:
A lot of threads... are just not funny OR good. Honestly.
I don't think it's just been a month, I think it's been the whole of 2024 since quality threads became less frequent. 2024 has been a very weak year...Corne2Plum3 wrote:
I agree with it. I feel like the quality dropped since the last monthFarfocele wrote:
A lot of threads... are just not funny OR good. Honestly.
This is actually part of the reason why I decided to create the OT! manga, and I think that by making a high quality/effort thread, I can inspire more people to create more and more quality threads. If someone doesn't like the current state of OT!, that person should make the difference happen (and that's not a hot take).
Patatitta wrote:
I agree with it. I feel like the quality dropped since the last monthFarfocele wrote:
A lot of threads... are just not funny OR good. Honestly.
see what i'm saying?, last month threads were the good ones!, threads just need time to ageCorne2Plum3 wrote:
I agree with it. I feel like the quality dropped since the last monthFarfocele wrote:
A lot of threads... are just not funny OR good. Honestly.
I'm personally sick of hearing people talk about OT's quality. Every time someone comes up and says that, they don't bring any objective reason(s) why thread x is good and thread y is bad. I'm sick of this talk and narrative entirely. It has, genuinely, haunted my experience on this shit sub-forum for long enough, so honestly, fuck you if you believe that.
Well I'll gladly be fucked.
I think there isn't a need for too much quality, but the subforum is boring without the occasional stand-out thread.
Usually quality can be measured by how much effort went into the OP in terms of visual design, but there's also threads which rely on research and whatnot which are also quality.
Quality can also emerge from a throwaway thread if the discussion within the topic becomes either nuanced and even controversial or just plain enjoyable.
Generally, a quality thread is one that interests people or includes them in some way I think. Hence why competitions and roleplayes were pretty cool.
You don't need to post quality, but I wouldn't shame the people who seek it. Besides, 'OT Dead' is such a repetitive topic that it has almost become an inside joke within the community.
I think there isn't a need for too much quality, but the subforum is boring without the occasional stand-out thread.
Usually quality can be measured by how much effort went into the OP in terms of visual design, but there's also threads which rely on research and whatnot which are also quality.
Quality can also emerge from a throwaway thread if the discussion within the topic becomes either nuanced and even controversial or just plain enjoyable.
Generally, a quality thread is one that interests people or includes them in some way I think. Hence why competitions and roleplayes were pretty cool.
You don't need to post quality, but I wouldn't shame the people who seek it. Besides, 'OT Dead' is such a repetitive topic that it has almost become an inside joke within the community.
Topic Starter
the same people complain about quality, yet refuse to post something of substance.
In terms of quality, there are a few things I find to stand out:
- Engagement
In terms of quality, there are a few things I find to stand out:
- Engagement
- The post needs to engage the reader in a way that makes them feel connected to the post or wanting to continue reading.
- This post needs to have a reason for the reader to engage (we can see an increase in engagement when its something like "comment and ill tell you how I feel about you", Potato man's post about the tier list, posts like this engage the user and offer a benefit to posting, rather than just reading.
- There needs to be actual content in the post. Not just a simple one-liner that is "off-topic", mainly these one-liners are just shitposts just to post something.
- You don't always need to have a funny post. Yes, it is more than likely to get good engagement if it is genuinely funny, but we've seen serious posts get a lot of engagement, I mean look at this post. Something that didn't have a lot of engagement until recently and it blew up. The substance and engagement of the post matter more than the tonality, but the tone of the post can definitely help keep the readers and even sway them to comment underneath of it.
yooo i fail at 3 of thos let's gooooooooooooooooooooo ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
where worst OT post er award ???????????????????
where worst OT post er award ???????????????????
Ymir wrote:
Well I'll gladly be fucked.
I think there isn't a need for too much quality, but the subforum is boring without the occasional stand-out thread.
Usually quality can be measured by how much effort went into the OP in terms of visual design, but there's also threads which rely on research and whatnot which are also quality.
Quality can also emerge from a throwaway thread if the discussion within the topic becomes either nuanced and even controversial or just plain enjoyable.
Generally, a quality thread is one that interests people or includes them in some way I think. Hence why competitions and roleplayes were pretty cool.
You don't need to post quality, but I wouldn't shame the people who seek it. Besides, 'OT Dead' is such a repetitive topic that it has almost become an inside joke within the community.
Yeah, so, I got nothing. Either way, thanks for finally answering this question to some degree.Blushing wrote:
the same people complain about quality, yet refuse to post something of substance.
In terms of quality, there are a few things I find to stand out:
- Engagement- Substance
- The post needs to engage the reader in a way that makes them feel connected to the post or wanting to continue reading.
- This post needs to have a reason for the reader to engage (we can see an increase in engagement when its something like "comment and ill tell you how I feel about you", Potato man's post about the tier list, posts like this engage the user and offer a benefit to posting, rather than just reading.
- Tonality
- There needs to be actual content in the post. Not just a simple one-liner that is "off-topic", mainly these one-liners are just shitposts just to post something.
- You don't always need to have a funny post. Yes, it is more than likely to get good engagement if it is genuinely funny, but we've seen serious posts get a lot of engagement, I mean look at this post. Something that didn't have a lot of engagement until recently and it blew up. The substance and engagement of the post matter more than the tonality, but the tone of the post can definitely help keep the readers and even sway them to comment underneath of it.
I very much disagree with this, this is a very textbook "what is a good thread", and while it may be logical in paper, does it really exist in reality?Blushing wrote:
the same people complain about quality, yet refuse to post something of substance.
In terms of quality, there are a few things I find to stand out:
- Engagement- Substance
- The post needs to engage the reader in a way that makes them feel connected to the post or wanting to continue reading.
- This post needs to have a reason for the reader to engage (we can see an increase in engagement when its something like "comment and ill tell you how I feel about you", Potato man's post about the tier list, posts like this engage the user and offer a benefit to posting, rather than just reading.
- Tonality
- There needs to be actual content in the post. Not just a simple one-liner that is "off-topic", mainly these one-liners are just shitposts just to post something.
- You don't always need to have a funny post. Yes, it is more than likely to get good engagement if it is genuinely funny, but we've seen serious posts get a lot of engagement, I mean look at this post. Something that didn't have a lot of engagement until recently and it blew up. The substance and engagement of the post matter more than the tonality, but the tone of the post can definitely help keep the readers and even sway them to comment underneath of it.
"The post needs to engage the reader in a way that makes them feel connected to the post or wanting to continue reading."
is it really? when was the last time you felt "connected to a thread", also, this implies the thread is just a textdump, which in many cases it isn't
"This post needs to have a reason for the reader to engage (we can see an increase in engagement when its something like "comment and ill tell you how I feel about you", Potato man's post about the tier list, posts like this engage the user and offer a benefit to posting, rather than just reading."
A thread isn't better for having more responses, I feel AMA's are awful in that aspect, because yes, they get a lot of responses, but are they really that fun?, I don't think no one is saying "oh comment and I tell how I feel about you is my favourite ot thread". We should not optimize OT threads for engagement life if we are a company
"There needs to be actual content in the post. Not just a simple one-liner that is "off-topic", mainly these one-liners are just shitposts just to post something."
If we were to apply this rule, there would be like 30 good threads in OT history, we're not scholars discussing philosophy, all we post is banal, there really isn't anything really worth it in any thread, yet we post just because it's fun
You don't always need to have a funny post. Yes, it is more than likely to get good engagement if it is genuinely funny, but we've seen serious posts get a lot of engagement, I mean look at this post. Something that didn't have a lot of engagement until recently and it blew up. The substance and engagement of the post matter more than the tonality, but the tone of the post can definitely help keep the readers and even sway them to comment underneath of it.
"Yes, it is more than likely to get good engagement if it is genuinely funny"
again, you're meassuring quality by engagement, this is not how OT works, if a thread just happens to have a drama, that doesn't mean the tthread is better
if you REALLY want to try mathing out/finding the "correct" formula to make a quality post, check these two threads out. See what people ACTUALLY consider to be good threads.
community/forums/topics/1853225?n=1 (note, actually a lot of the green threads ended up failing, like my gd megacollab, or abraker's game, and my poster thread, even if it was high rated, barely got any responses)
community/forums/topics/1886044?n=1
Topic Starter
tl;dr: subjectivity is hard to define, I posted what I think can make up a good thread by my standards. Sure there are generalizations I do because the subforum is still one of the most active subforums on the site, but ultimately this is how most content creators make an audience and keep an audience. Which posters here are making content so it can loosely follow the same structure methinks.
Be engaging, be funny, have a niche, and be good at what that niche is.
A certain one-liner will hit harder for certain audiences depending on the message, we can look at streamers, youtubers, and other social media platformers at how they reach audiences not typically in their niche. If you are funny but have nothing but jokes then it works for people that are looking for a laugh, but for OT, you are right, it is a different type of culture/audience so you need to reach that and something on the lines of a one-liner MIGHT reach them in a way they feel that they can interact with it.
Posting because its fun to post and share thoughts is a perfectly fine example, but don't be surprised if your type of fun is not someone elses and then wonder why the "OT is dead" memes resurface every 4 months. Posting because you want to is the base line for a post to be made, but posting to create engagement and have meaningful interactions with the community is something that should come after the fun idea has been fleshed out.
The "rate your thread" posts do show a decent amount of information, idrc enough to look through them all again because at the end of the day I don't care what is posted here as long as it follows the rules and I hardly consume OT content. I thought I would just make a simple reply of what I think a decent post should include.
I do agree that comment engagement can be a bad way to measure the success of the post, but considering the types of threads it can depend. A lot of this just depends on the readers preference, just like most content and media.
Be engaging, be funny, have a niche, and be good at what that niche is.
Patatitta wrote:
I very much disagree with this, this is a very textbook "what is a good thread", and while it may be logical in paper, does it really exist in reality?Blushing wrote:
the same people complain about quality, yet refuse to post something of substance.
In terms of quality, there are a few things I find to stand out:
- Engagement- Substance
- The post needs to engage the reader in a way that makes them feel connected to the post or wanting to continue reading.
- This post needs to have a reason for the reader to engage (we can see an increase in engagement when its something like "comment and ill tell you how I feel about you", Potato man's post about the tier list, posts like this engage the user and offer a benefit to posting, rather than just reading.
- Tonality
- There needs to be actual content in the post. Not just a simple one-liner that is "off-topic", mainly these one-liners are just shitposts just to post something.
- You don't always need to have a funny post. Yes, it is more than likely to get good engagement if it is genuinely funny, but we've seen serious posts get a lot of engagement, I mean look at this post. Something that didn't have a lot of engagement until recently and it blew up. The substance and engagement of the post matter more than the tonality, but the tone of the post can definitely help keep the readers and even sway them to comment underneath of it.
"The post needs to engage the reader in a way that makes them feel connected to the post or wanting to continue reading."
is it really? when was the last time you felt "connected to a thread", also, this implies the thread is just a textdump, which in many cases it isn't
"This post needs to have a reason for the reader to engage (we can see an increase in engagement when its something like "comment and ill tell you how I feel about you", Potato man's post about the tier list, posts like this engage the user and offer a benefit to posting, rather than just reading."
A thread isn't better for having more responses, I feel AMA's are awful in that aspect, because yes, they get a lot of responses, but are they really that fun?, I don't think no one is saying "oh comment and I tell how I feel about you is my favourite ot thread". We should not optimize OT threads for engagement life if we are a company
"There needs to be actual content in the post. Not just a simple one-liner that is "off-topic", mainly these one-liners are just shitposts just to post something."
If we were to apply this rule, there would be like 30 good threads in OT history, we're not scholars discussing philosophy, all we post is banal, there really isn't anything really worth it in any thread, yet we post just because it's fun
You don't always need to have a funny post. Yes, it is more than likely to get good engagement if it is genuinely funny, but we've seen serious posts get a lot of engagement, I mean look at this post. Something that didn't have a lot of engagement until recently and it blew up. The substance and engagement of the post matter more than the tonality, but the tone of the post can definitely help keep the readers and even sway them to comment underneath of it.
"Yes, it is more than likely to get good engagement if it is genuinely funny"
again, you're meassuring quality by engagement, this is not how OT works, if a thread just happens to have a drama, that doesn't mean the tthread is better
if you REALLY want to try mathing out/finding the "correct" formula to make a quality post, check these two threads out. See what people ACTUALLY consider to be good threads.
community/forums/topics/1853225?n=1 (note, actually a lot of the green threads ended up failing, like my gd megacollab, or abraker's game, and my poster thread, even if it was high rated, barely got any responses)
community/forums/topics/1886044?n=1
> I feel connected to threads in which I measure to have thought put into it. I dont look at OT except for usually once a day and even then Im not actually clicking into the threads because the thread titles are abysmal. Yes, there is subjectivity in this regard. I also have the nonunique privilege of not looking at this subforum because I am out of the loop nearly 99.99% of the time and I cannot relate to the posts in the subforum. I view nearly almost all the posts that come out of this subforum is just shitposting or "text dumps".first question wrote:
is it really? when was the last time you felt "connected to a thread", also, this implies the thread is just a textdump, which in many cases it isn't
> No a thread isnt "better" because it has a bunch of responses. AMA's can be amazing, but everyone asks shitty questions or the actual answer to the question is lackluster in depth and engagement.second question wrote:
A thread isn't better for having more responses, I feel AMA's are awful in that aspect, because yes, they get a lot of responses, but are they really that fun?, I don't think no one is saying "oh comment and I tell how I feel about you is my favourite ot thread". We should not optimize OT threads for engagement life if we are a company
> I think you are interpreting that a one-liner cannot be full of content by what I said. One-liners are jokes that tend to be told in one line and have hardly any substance to interact with. What is the purpose of a thread that is shared if it doesn't reach anyone.third response/question wrote:
If we were to apply this rule, there would be like 30 good threads in OT history, we're not scholars discussing philosophy, all we post is banal, there really isn't anything really worth it in any thread, yet we post just because it's fun
A certain one-liner will hit harder for certain audiences depending on the message, we can look at streamers, youtubers, and other social media platformers at how they reach audiences not typically in their niche. If you are funny but have nothing but jokes then it works for people that are looking for a laugh, but for OT, you are right, it is a different type of culture/audience so you need to reach that and something on the lines of a one-liner MIGHT reach them in a way they feel that they can interact with it.
> Sure I am measuring quality pretty linearly with engagement, because at the end of the day if you are creating content you should want it to reach people in a way that "profits". Unrelated anime girl poster has created a niche in which their content can be digested and is arguably good. A good thread is simply subjective, but the idea to try and have generally good threads is what I initially posted, in my eyes. I think that if your thread has a lot of meaningful replies and conversation, even if it is based on drama, it is meeting that engagement and therefore can qualify as a decent post.fourth response/question wrote:
again, you're meassuring quality by engagement, this is not how OT works, if a thread just happens to have a drama, that doesn't mean the tthread is better
if you REALLY want to try mathing out/finding the "correct" formula to make a quality post, check these two threads out. See what people ACTUALLY consider to be good threads.
community/forums/topics/1853225?n=1 (note, actually a lot of the green threads ended up failing, like my gd megacollab, or abraker's game, and my poster thread, even if it was high rated, barely got any responses)
community/forums/topics/1886044?n=1
Posting because its fun to post and share thoughts is a perfectly fine example, but don't be surprised if your type of fun is not someone elses and then wonder why the "OT is dead" memes resurface every 4 months. Posting because you want to is the base line for a post to be made, but posting to create engagement and have meaningful interactions with the community is something that should come after the fun idea has been fleshed out.
The "rate your thread" posts do show a decent amount of information, idrc enough to look through them all again because at the end of the day I don't care what is posted here as long as it follows the rules and I hardly consume OT content. I thought I would just make a simple reply of what I think a decent post should include.
I do agree that comment engagement can be a bad way to measure the success of the post, but considering the types of threads it can depend. A lot of this just depends on the readers preference, just like most content and media.
Polyspora wrote:
OT!debate?????
I OT!think that OT!Blushing doesn't really OT!understand OT!OT, at OT!least when it comes to "OT!Quality", they seem to be OT!treating this like a OT!streaming OT!platform, when it's way OT!closer to OT!social OT!media.
69th post
OT!niceCorne2Plum3 wrote:
69th post
This is by far the most annoying reply you've ever posted since I know you.Patatitta wrote:
I OT!think that OT!Blushing doesn't really OT!understand OT!OT, at OT!least when it comes to "OT!Quality", they seem to be OT!treating this like a OT!streaming OT!platform, when it's way OT!closer to OT!social OT!media.
I think its pretty funnyWinnyace wrote:
This is by far the most annoying reply you've ever posted since I know you.Patatitta wrote:
I OT!think that OT!Blushing doesn't really OT!understand OT!OT, at OT!least when it comes to "OT!Quality", they seem to be OT!treating this like a OT!streaming OT!platform, when it's way OT!closer to OT!social OT!media.
Topic Starter
I think the reply is fine. I think there are different view points when it comes to content in OT. Social media sites now have streaming capabilities.
It’s not really that deep but I don’t see anyone else trying to qualify what makes a post bare minimum “good”. So it do be my opinion
It’s not really that deep but I don’t see anyone else trying to qualify what makes a post bare minimum “good”. So it do be my opinion
i don't have any hot takes to talk about 
I'm sure you have.igorsprite wrote:
i don't have any hot takes to talk about
nah, these days i just want to spend time with someone i care about, so i don't have any formed opinion on any controversial topic.Polyspora wrote:
I'm sure you have.igorsprite wrote:
i don't have any hot takes to talk about
abraker shouldn't sing "i want it that way"
Reggaeton is horrible, just nasty themes with "singers".
He did thofurry hater wrote:
abraker shouldn't sing "i want it that way"
so trueI AM VERY SMART wrote:
I think anime is way too overrated nowadays
i second thisI AM VERY SMART wrote:
I think Off-Topic is the worst subforum
Yeah, you are very smartI AM VERY SMART wrote:
I think Off-Topic is a subforum
727 wysi memes are still funny
I 100% agree with this, honestly.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
727 wysi memes are still funny
I 727% agree with with your 100% agreementWinnyace wrote:
I 100% agree with this, honestly.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
727 wysi memes are still funny
I mean, a lot of games can only be bought there, so it's often just out of necessity, not necessarily love, what do you use, gog?BranHart wrote:
Steam is an overrated application.
still, steam families are peak and honestly it's the best thing any game launcher has ever done
Hot Take: Scaramouche from Genshin Impact is overrated
True by 727.727%abraker wrote:
I 727% agree with with your 100% agreementWinnyace wrote:
I 100% agree with this, honestly.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
727 wysi memes are still funny
Less quotes, more originality!
Note: I have no originality myself.
Note: I have no originality myself.
mizu_chuu wrote:
Hot Take: Scaramouche from Genshin Impact is overrated
genshin exists?Behrauder wrote:
mizu_chuu wrote:
Hot Take: Scaramouche from Genshin Impact is overratedHotTake: Genshin Impact is overrated.
Disagree. The gameplay itself is pretty fun, minus the gacha elements. Those are the things that, in my eyes, make me unwilling to play the game.Behrauder wrote:
mizu_chuu wrote:
Hot Take: Scaramouche from Genshin Impact is overratedHotTake: Genshin Impact is overrated.
At least for me, the game quickly becomes boring and repetitive, and you have to spend a long time with nothing new to do, and, after you can do something, this cycle repeats itself.Winnyace wrote:
Disagree. The gameplay itself is pretty fun, minus the gacha elements. Those are the things that, in my eyes, make me unwilling to play the game.Behrauder wrote:
mizu_chuu wrote:
Hot Take: Scaramouche from Genshin Impact is overratedHotTake: Genshin Impact is overrated.
Although I don't know if it continues like this, the last time I installed it was about 2 years ago.
I only played until level 20 or so and then left as it became annoying with its gacha like mechanics. It is a gacha game, so of course, grind is a big part of the game.Behrauder wrote:
At least for me, the game quickly becomes boring and repetitive, and you have to spend a long time with nothing new to do, and, after you can do something, this cycle repeats itself.Winnyace wrote:
Disagree. The gameplay itself is pretty fun, minus the gacha elements. Those are the things that, in my eyes, make me unwilling to play the game.Behrauder wrote:
mizu_chuu wrote:
Hot Take: Scaramouche from Genshin Impact is overratedHotTake: Genshin Impact is overrated.
Although I don't know if it continues like this, the last time I installed it was about 2 years ago.
Hot Take: Blushing isn't actually blushing now
Topic Starter
reffty_gag wrote:
Hot Take: Blushing isn't actually blushing now
Hot Take: Just because you're hot, doesn't mean you're hot! O_O Annnnd? Who's bleeding their nose now? Nobody? Well good! Because I'm TIRED of getting falsely accused as a murder! >:/