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DM FOR MUTUAL
I remember you said you played genshin once upon a time, if so it'd be interesting to hear your thoughts on it even though I haven't played it myself
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Patatitta

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

I remember you said you played genshin once upon a time, if so it'd be interesting to hear your thoughts on it even though I haven't played it myself
I mean, it's not something I would count for this thread, but I can make an exception, wont add to tier lists or anything but I think later today i'm going to just complain a lot
Ymir
3 Days of Happiness, Manga
Topic Starter
Patatitta
Hundreds of Beavers

This is probably one of the funniest movies i've watched in my entire life

hundreds of beaver is an independant "silent" black and white comedy film released in 2022 but only really started distribution in 2024 with a style of comedy very reminiscent of looney tunes, just, way better in every single regard?

the way this movie looks is extremely bizarre, the comical overacting of the different characters, the costumes and props, and even the clear use of a green screen and CGI to replicate gags that would only be possible in animation

I can't explain why this movie is as funny as it is, but god, it is funny, there were moments were I wasn't even laughing, and I was just in pure awe

also, something that i've noticed, some of the jokes and gags in this movie felt very videogame-ish?, like, I saw some scenes and went like "oh this could very easily be a scene in a videogame" or whatever, which is strange, but it just has that energy

I have never seen a movie like this, I don't know if I ever will watch a movie like this again, I wish I could say more about this movie but honestly i'm so confused and surprised by this film like unironically anyone reading this please watch it


placed in s rank


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I sold my life for ten thousand yen per year. (3 Days of Happiness is actually the name of the novel the manga is based on)

already read it a few years back, it's peak

It's a very short manga (only 3 volumes) about a guy, that as the title says, sells their life for three thousand yen per year, only having 3 days left to live (that is where the title of the novel comes from), and, it's way different than you would imagine from the synopsis

Yes, it may be VERY little money for each year, but given it's their entire life, the protagonist HAS money, in a hollywood film you would probably see the protagonist throwing a big party and spending it and having fun, but the manga is actually the complete contrary

it's a fairly slow, melancholic, dramatic manga, where during those three remaining days on earth, the protagonist reflects on all of their life up to that point and comes to accept it, all of this while being accompanied by a woman who is there to make sure he doesn't murder anyone now that he knows he is going to die in 3 days.

It's very painful and sad but also extremely beautiful, it's emotive up to it's bones

It's actually also a very interesting manga when you compare it to the rest of the manga indsutry and what we personally expect from the medium

I absolutely love the fact that it's only 3 volumes. Normally, most successfull, big popular mangas are LONG, and this manga shows that they don't need to be. While this manga is short, it also has a very clear goal and objective, it doesn't feel rush or compressed. It's so short yet they still dedicate a lot of time to each scene to make sure it hits, it doesn't try to fit as much story as possible, it gives space for everything to breathe, they give time to the protagonist to just sit in silence and think.

In my analysis of frieren I complained about how I was baited by the synopsis, and how well, I expected, this. This is what I wanted frieren to be, and it's such a shame that it wasn't that because god this manga is so good

placced in S rank

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genshin impact

note: i'm not placing this on the tier list or anything, I just have a lot of thoughts about this type of games

Genshin as a game is mediocre, it's a gacha game with very shallow gameplay, and okay story. You're not missing out on anything for not playing genshin impact. But I would say this is a bit unfair to genshin impact, because well, i'm analyzing through the lense of the global gaming industry, of course I believe games like disco elysium or sanabi are better than genshin, but genshin isn't trying to compete with those, and I feel actually comparing it makes you miss a bigger and more interesting point

What if we were to compare genshin impact with only free to play games?, in that case, genshin is probably one of the best games out there, it's a game without any rough edges that you can basically play forever, sure it doesn't respect your time, but which free to play game does?

This isn't just a free to play either, it's a mobile game, and that industry is somehow even worse

I think it's a shame that people just play shitty ass videogames because they can't afford anything better, but I feel that in part it's also because this games are the most populars so I don't think actually having good free games will fix anything, like, itch.io exists and I have friends that have money that still play roblox

I also don't like gachas in general, not only because of the predatory monetization, but also because it has become so popular that games that have 0 microtransactions STILL have gacha mechanics (looking at you holocure)

also I generally don't like how much genshin and other games rely on sex appeal

I just think genshin is bad for the industry and the medium
reffty_gag
watch "Drifting Home" (the anime movie one, 2022)
Topic Starter
Patatitta

reffty_gag wrote:

watch "Drifting Home" (the anime movie one, 2022)
okay
reffty_gag

Patatitta wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

watch "Drifting Home" (the anime movie one, 2022)
okay
okay
emajakolic
play horace

its over 8h

but I dont fucking care beat it its a masterpiece
Topic Starter
Patatitta

emajakolic wrote:

play horace

its over 8h

but I dont fucking care beat it its a masterpiece
this?
emajakolic

Patatitta wrote:

emajakolic wrote:

play horace

its over 8h

but I dont fucking care beat it its a masterpiece
this?
yes

fun game play it
Topic Starter
Patatitta

emajakolic wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

emajakolic wrote:

play horace

its over 8h

but I dont fucking care beat it its a masterpiece
this?
yes

fun game play it
okay I will
emajakolic

Patatitta wrote:

emajakolic wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

emajakolic wrote:

play horace

its over 8h

but I dont fucking care beat it its a masterpiece
this?
yes

fun game play it
okay I will
FUCK YES I LOVE YOU

btw add me on steam frfr
Topic Starter
Patatitta

emajakolic wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

emajakolic wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

emajakolic wrote:

play horace

its over 8h

but I dont fucking care beat it its a masterpiece
this?
yes

fun game play it
okay I will
FUCK YES I LOVE YOU

btw add me on steam frfr
i'm not going to play it on steam
Topic Starter
Patatitta
drifting home

didn't like it very much

It's an anime movie about multiple kisd being stranded in an old building that somehow leads to a different universe, the plot is actually very similar to sonny boy, the difference is that sonny boy is peak, and this anime isn't

like really, this anime doesn't do much, the movie is 2 hours long but they resolve everything by the second third of the movie, having the last 40 minutes or so just being running over the same points again

it's not very fun either, I don't know, it just doesn't do anything, it goes for way too long, and there are just way better anime out there

placed in d tier

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i'm still downloading horace
burgernfat
dying light
the stanley parable
emajakolic

Patatitta wrote:

emajakolic wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

emajakolic wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

emajakolic wrote:

play horace

its over 8h

but I dont fucking care beat it its a masterpiece
this?
yes

fun game play it
okay I will
FUCK YES I LOVE YOU

btw add me on steam frfr
i'm not going to play it on steam
add me anyway I need friends XD
Behrauder
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Behrauder wrote:

Fantasy Bishoujo Juniku Ojisan to
sure

burgernfat wrote:

dying light
the stanley parable
I don't think I will be doing dying light, school starts soon and idk if I will have the time



stanley parable I have already beaten

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stanley parble is an indie game released in the source engine in 2011, then being expanded with ultra deluxe in 2022, it's really good

The game is about walking in an office, with a narrator that tries to dictate a story, and it's your choice to obey him or not, there are a lot of endings possible, but the path to get each ending is fairly short.

The game has no really endpoint, you just play until you had enough, in fact, even the loading screen tells you this (THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER [...]) as you can't really win the game

This is one of the first games to really have comedy as one of it's selling points, the narrator is overall pretty funny, most of the times games shy away from comedy, either because they want to be adult to escape the "videogames are for children" allegations that old people usually like to throw around, or because they just don't really know how to implement

comedy works best when you can control everything that happens, so, giving player input and still being funny is really difficult, stanley parable is able to overcome this by well, not having much interaction in the first place, as this game is a walking simulator

anyways we need more comedy in videogames this game is great A rank
Topic Starter
Patatitta
Fantasy Bishoujo Juniku Ojisan to

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not very good

This anime is an isekai comedy "parody" about these two guys that get transported into this dragon-quest like fantasy world except one of the guys have been reborn as a girl with a special skill that basically charms everyone in the region

let's get this out of the way first, I don't consider this a parody, it's a regular comedy, as I said with konosuba, this has no criticism torwards the actual genre or whatever, it just has jokes that relate to the typical tropes of the genre, but if we count that a parody, we must consider something like machikado mazoku a parody of the magical girl genre, when it isn't, it's just a different shape of it.

This also markets itself as a romcom, the first scene is a narrator talking about the synopsis, of both of them trying to not fall in love with each other

I finished the anime, and I don't think it's a spoiler to say there has been no romantic advances whatsoever, from time to time they go KYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA or whatever but that's about it

what this anime is a very aimless, generic, adventure isekai where they just run around with no real goal and then the anime just really ends without anything having ever happened, the manga is still ongoing in fact

the gender shift thing isn't really explored more than "ohhhh I can't believe I have fallen in love with someone who used to be a guy" which come the fuck on really

placed on D rank

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playing horace, i'm not liking it but honestly it's so amusing i'm going to keep going
emajakolic

Patatitta wrote:

playing horace, i'm not liking it but honestly it's so amusing i'm going to keep going
fuck yes
Topic Starter
Patatitta

emajakolic wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

playing horace, i'm not liking it but honestly it's so amusing i'm going to keep going
fuck yes
honestly I would like why do you love this game so much lmao
emajakolic

Patatitta wrote:

emajakolic wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

playing horace, i'm not liking it but honestly it's so amusing i'm going to keep going
fuck yes
honestly I would like why do you love this game so much lmao
I liked the story and loved the gameplay it gets harder and harder xD
Topic Starter
Patatitta

emajakolic wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

emajakolic wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

playing horace, i'm not liking it but honestly it's so amusing i'm going to keep going
fuck yes
honestly I would like why do you love this game so much lmao
I liked the story and loved the gameplay it gets harder and harder xD
yeah, but there are games that do all of those things toom, so why is this one in specific so good
emajakolic

Patatitta wrote:

emajakolic wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

emajakolic wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

playing horace, i'm not liking it but honestly it's so amusing i'm going to keep going
fuck yes
honestly I would like why do you love this game so much lmao
I liked the story and loved the gameplay it gets harder and harder xD
yeah, but there are games that do all of those things toom, so why is this one in specific so good
it was the one I enjoyed the most so far
Topic Starter
Patatitta
I just realized that I think I forgot to update the tierlist with murder drones?, i'm going to fix it
Topic Starter
Patatitta
Horace (Dropped)

acutally nope, cant do this, i've gotten to the finale of chapter 6, apparently there are 22 chapters, this game is awful in every single way

Horace is a 2d platformer about a robot built by a family tasked with cleaning a milion thrash pieces, but the general plot is that the robot runs around and helps people, the story is told via narration from microsoft sam, all of the dialogue happens in prerendered cutscenes which are just basically the scenary you're in but with random zooms

While i'm fine with the narration, I dislike the prerendered cutscenes thing as it doesn't allow me to read the story and progress it at my own pace. In nearly every videogame ever created, when there is dialogue, it will slowly show on screen, having an effect where it's written on screen, however, if you want to that text to advance fast, you can either change the text speed in settings, or, when a dialogue is being written on screen, you can click on it to make it instantly jump torwards the very end of the animation, after that, another click will change the dialogue to the next, if there is a voiceover it will cut of and it will start the next line

Problem with the prerendered cutscenes is that they remove that freedom the player has of reading the texts at their own pace, and given the high quantities of dialogue this game has, that's a feature that you very much end up wishing it existed

Now, that's not the only problem the cinematics have, let's say for example you had a room with two lasers, and you wanted to make a cinematic of those lasers deactivating, how would you do it?, personally, I would show the whole screen, the two lasers both visible, and show them both deactivating at the same time with a sound effect that indicates hey they have deactivated, what this game does is that it focus on one laser, after half a second it deactivates, it stays on that laser for another half a second, then it moves to the next laser and repeats. That combined with the dialogue, the game cutscenes feel like they're wasting your time on purpouse

The last problem I've had with the cinematics is that they often trigger late, like, you pass over the trigger, and then it takes like 2 full seconds for the cinematic to trigger

The actual story is fine, nothing had really happened so far, but there are a couple of inconsistencies and plot holes in the story so far, mainly, the character is only a robot when it interests the plot, for example, there is a scene where the protagonist is shown television, and it watches a lot of movies, this is later reinforced later by making a star wars references, showing that it has learned a little bit about pop culture and stuff, however, they still don't know what the word "rescue" meant.

1- This would be ingrained in the dictionary attached with the language module of the robot
2- Even if you didn't, you would have learnt it by watching movies.

Like, it makes no sense why the robot doesn't know what rescue is, othe rthan the game going "remember it is a robot it's quirky"

This type of inconsistencies and overall lack of polish is shown everywhere in the game, for example, a game mechanic is that touching a wall will change your gravity to the direction of that wall, thing is, if you touch a ceiling and then fall off the map, while still having that upwards gravity, you will see a small cutscene of the robot falling out of the planet, this makes sense, (my only complaint here is that you cant skip the cutscene so if you fail a jump multiple times you always have to sit down and watch the 5 second cutscene which is annoying). The problem is that it turns out that this cinematic isn't tied to the act of falling upwards in an open air map, it's appied to everywhere out of bounds.

There is a segment of the game where there are multiple signs, each one going "ohhh there is nothing in this direction", and if you keep going, like the stairs in lisa, there is nothing at the end, well, there is large quantity of spikes that harm you. When I found that I had 2 shields, meaning, I could damage boost through it, and I did so, and I expected to find a secret, an easter egg of some sort maybe, what happened is that the falling out of the earth cutscene triggered

You can say that last one is a nitpick, as it doesn't really affect the gameplay outside that one fringe scenario, but then we have the stealth segment. This game has infinite lifes, and it tries to explain that in universe with "the lazarus chip", something that allows the robot to basically restart a zone after it crashes and dies. Everything resets, cycles reset, your shields reset, your position resets, time resets, the only thing that don't resets it's the colectables for QoL reasons, turns out, something that doesn't reset is your alert status, so if you get caught and die because of it, after you respawn, alert is still up

How do you clear the alert?, well, in most stealth games is just hiding from view, as long as they don't see you, alert will go down, this game usually offer some sort of hiding place such as lockers, this just helps you not gettign seen, but they're not mechanically needed. In this game, you can wait for 20 minutes without anyone sees you, the alert isn't going away, it's only if you get in a hiding spot that the alert will go down

the gameplay in general suck, mainly because the controls suck, first of all, even if this is an indie game only released for PC, it basically has no keybord support. When you play any videogame and you're in a tutorial, some text will usually come on screen that says press x button to do y, if you're using a controller it will show you a controller button, and if you're using kb it will show a key, in fact, if you are in a part of the game where there is a prompt like that, and you plug a controller or click with the mouse after having used a controller you can see that button prompt change live

In this game, those prompts are hard-coded to be controller only, so it won't display what keys to press in keyboard, also, the keyboard default controls are awful. I'm playing with an xbox controller, this is also what the prompts show, the xbox controller has 4 main buttons, A B X Y, the way the keyboard is mapped is to literally copy the letter, so to press the equivalent of the Y button in the xbox controler you would have to press the Y key in the keyboard, this is fucking insane.

Thing is, even if you're using a controller, the game still doesn't fucking work, many times the game will just stop detecting the run imput or won't really react to you pressing a button or direction, it's not responsive at all and a lot of deaths feel unfair

another element that helps death feeling unfair is the hitboxes being awful, actually being bigger than the sprite

There is a small race segment, and in all racing games or games with car, or any game with any sort of control scheme in general, the speed the character movies is determined by how deep you're pushing the joystick, so if you only push it slightly you will move very slowly and if you go all in it will be like pressing it down into a keyboard, this game doesn't have that graduality.

Also the timer of total time played doesn't count cutscenes?, this is significant since there are a lot of cutscenes.

Also power ups have a time limit which is variable yet no indication of how much power up is left

Also whenever you stop moving to try to be more precise with a jump or something the screen IMMEDIATLY starts zooming to the protagonist

The entire screen flips when you change gravity instead of just changing gravity, something that is very head-ache producing

this game is just truly one of the worst videogames i've ever played, I don't know how they fucked up so much, like these are things that even YIIK nails for the love of god, I want to know what do you see in this game since this just feels like thrash

it's awful, just, awful, placed in how could you do this to me
emajakolic

Patatitta wrote:

Horace (Dropped)

acutally nope, cant do this, i've gotten to the finale of chapter 6, apparently there are 22 chapters, this game is awful in every single way

Horace is a 2d platformer about a robot built by a family tasked with cleaning a milion thrash pieces, but the general plot is that the robot runs around and helps people, the story is told via narration from microsoft sam, all of the dialogue happens in prerendered cutscenes which are just basically the scenary you're in but with random zooms

While i'm fine with the narration, I dislike the prerendered cutscenes thing as it doesn't allow me to read the story and progress it at my own pace. In nearly every videogame ever created, when there is dialogue, it will slowly show on screen, having an effect where it's written on screen, however, if you want to that text to advance fast, you can either change the text speed in settings, or, when a dialogue is being written on screen, you can click on it to make it instantly jump torwards the very end of the animation, after that, another click will change the dialogue to the next, if there is a voiceover it will cut of and it will start the next line

Problem with the prerendered cutscenes is that they remove that freedom the player has of reading the texts at their own pace, and given the high quantities of dialogue this game has, that's a feature that you very much end up wishing it existed

Now, that's not the only problem the cinematics have, let's say for example you had a room with two lasers, and you wanted to make a cinematic of those lasers deactivating, how would you do it?, personally, I would show the whole screen, the two lasers both visible, and show them both deactivating at the same time with a sound effect that indicates hey they have deactivated, what this game does is that it focus on one laser, after half a second it deactivates, it stays on that laser for another half a second, then it moves to the next laser and repeats. That combined with the dialogue, the game cutscenes feel like they're wasting your time on purpouse

The last problem I've had with the cinematics is that they often trigger late, like, you pass over the trigger, and then it takes like 2 full seconds for the cinematic to trigger

The actual story is fine, nothing had really happened so far, but there are a couple of inconsistencies and plot holes in the story so far, mainly, the character is only a robot when it interests the plot, for example, there is a scene where the protagonist is shown television, and it watches a lot of movies, this is later reinforced later by making a star wars references, showing that it has learned a little bit about pop culture and stuff, however, they still don't know what the word "rescue" meant.

1- This would be ingrained in the dictionary attached with the language module of the robot
2- Even if you didn't, you would have learnt it by watching movies.

Like, it makes no sense why the robot doesn't know what rescue is, othe rthan the game going "remember it is a robot it's quirky"

This type of inconsistencies and overall lack of polish is shown everywhere in the game, for example, a game mechanic is that touching a wall will change your gravity to the direction of that wall, thing is, if you touch a ceiling and then fall off the map, while still having that upwards gravity, you will see a small cutscene of the robot falling out of the planet, this makes sense, (my only complaint here is that you cant skip the cutscene so if you fail a jump multiple times you always have to sit down and watch the 5 second cutscene which is annoying). The problem is that it turns out that this cinematic isn't tied to the act of falling upwards in an open air map, it's appied to everywhere out of bounds.

There is a segment of the game where there are multiple signs, each one going "ohhh there is nothing in this direction", and if you keep going, like the stairs in lisa, there is nothing at the end, well, there is large quantity of spikes that harm you. When I found that I had 2 shields, meaning, I could damage boost through it, and I did so, and I expected to find a secret, an easter egg of some sort maybe, what happened is that the falling out of the earth cutscene triggered

You can say that last one is a nitpick, as it doesn't really affect the gameplay outside that one fringe scenario, but then we have the stealth segment. This game has infinite lifes, and it tries to explain that in universe with "the lazarus chip", something that allows the robot to basically restart a zone after it crashes and dies. Everything resets, cycles reset, your shields reset, your position resets, time resets, the only thing that don't resets it's the colectables for QoL reasons, turns out, something that doesn't reset is your alert status, so if you get caught and die because of it, after you respawn, alert is still up

How do you clear the alert?, well, in most stealth games is just hiding from view, as long as they don't see you, alert will go down, this game usually offer some sort of hiding place such as lockers, this just helps you not gettign seen, but they're not mechanically needed. In this game, you can wait for 20 minutes without anyone sees you, the alert isn't going away, it's only if you get in a hiding spot that the alert will go down

the gameplay in general suck, mainly because the controls suck, first of all, even if this is an indie game only released for PC, it basically has no keybord support. When you play any videogame and you're in a tutorial, some text will usually come on screen that says press x button to do y, if you're using a controller it will show you a controller button, and if you're using kb it will show a key, in fact, if you are in a part of the game where there is a prompt like that, and you plug a controller or click with the mouse after having used a controller you can see that button prompt change live

In this game, those prompts are hard-coded to be controller only, so it won't display what keys to press in keyboard, also, the keyboard default controls are awful. I'm playing with an xbox controller, this is also what the prompts show, the xbox controller has 4 main buttons, A B X Y, the way the keyboard is mapped is to literally copy the letter, so to press the equivalent of the Y button in the xbox controler you would have to press the Y key in the keyboard, this is fucking insane.

Thing is, even if you're using a controller, the game still doesn't fucking work, many times the game will just stop detecting the run imput or won't really react to you pressing a button or direction, it's not responsive at all and a lot of deaths feel unfair

another element that helps death feeling unfair is the hitboxes being awful, actually being bigger than the sprite

There is a small race segment, and in all racing games or games with car, or any game with any sort of control scheme in general, the speed the character movies is determined by how deep you're pushing the joystick, so if you only push it slightly you will move very slowly and if you go all in it will be like pressing it down into a keyboard, this game doesn't have that graduality.

Also the timer of total time played doesn't count cutscenes?, this is significant since there are a lot of cutscenes.

Also power ups have a time limit which is variable yet no indication of how much power up is left

Also whenever you stop moving to try to be more precise with a jump or something the screen IMMEDIATLY starts zooming to the protagonist

The entire screen flips when you change gravity instead of just changing gravity, something that is very head-ache producing

this game is just truly one of the worst videogames i've ever played, I don't know how they fucked up so much, like these are things that even YIIK nails for the love of god, I want to know what do you see in this game since this just feels like thrash

it's awful, just, awful, placed in how could you do this to me
ah fuck thats sad

well im sorry for teling you to play that I personally just liked it lmfao

I got other good games tho (games I think you'd like, they arent indie btw) but they take WAY more than 8 hours
Topic Starter
Patatitta

emajakolic wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Horace (Dropped)

acutally nope, cant do this, i've gotten to the finale of chapter 6, apparently there are 22 chapters, this game is awful in every single way

Horace is a 2d platformer about a robot built by a family tasked with cleaning a milion thrash pieces, but the general plot is that the robot runs around and helps people, the story is told via narration from microsoft sam, all of the dialogue happens in prerendered cutscenes which are just basically the scenary you're in but with random zooms

While i'm fine with the narration, I dislike the prerendered cutscenes thing as it doesn't allow me to read the story and progress it at my own pace. In nearly every videogame ever created, when there is dialogue, it will slowly show on screen, having an effect where it's written on screen, however, if you want to that text to advance fast, you can either change the text speed in settings, or, when a dialogue is being written on screen, you can click on it to make it instantly jump torwards the very end of the animation, after that, another click will change the dialogue to the next, if there is a voiceover it will cut of and it will start the next line

Problem with the prerendered cutscenes is that they remove that freedom the player has of reading the texts at their own pace, and given the high quantities of dialogue this game has, that's a feature that you very much end up wishing it existed

Now, that's not the only problem the cinematics have, let's say for example you had a room with two lasers, and you wanted to make a cinematic of those lasers deactivating, how would you do it?, personally, I would show the whole screen, the two lasers both visible, and show them both deactivating at the same time with a sound effect that indicates hey they have deactivated, what this game does is that it focus on one laser, after half a second it deactivates, it stays on that laser for another half a second, then it moves to the next laser and repeats. That combined with the dialogue, the game cutscenes feel like they're wasting your time on purpouse

The last problem I've had with the cinematics is that they often trigger late, like, you pass over the trigger, and then it takes like 2 full seconds for the cinematic to trigger

The actual story is fine, nothing had really happened so far, but there are a couple of inconsistencies and plot holes in the story so far, mainly, the character is only a robot when it interests the plot, for example, there is a scene where the protagonist is shown television, and it watches a lot of movies, this is later reinforced later by making a star wars references, showing that it has learned a little bit about pop culture and stuff, however, they still don't know what the word "rescue" meant.

1- This would be ingrained in the dictionary attached with the language module of the robot
2- Even if you didn't, you would have learnt it by watching movies.

Like, it makes no sense why the robot doesn't know what rescue is, othe rthan the game going "remember it is a robot it's quirky"

This type of inconsistencies and overall lack of polish is shown everywhere in the game, for example, a game mechanic is that touching a wall will change your gravity to the direction of that wall, thing is, if you touch a ceiling and then fall off the map, while still having that upwards gravity, you will see a small cutscene of the robot falling out of the planet, this makes sense, (my only complaint here is that you cant skip the cutscene so if you fail a jump multiple times you always have to sit down and watch the 5 second cutscene which is annoying). The problem is that it turns out that this cinematic isn't tied to the act of falling upwards in an open air map, it's appied to everywhere out of bounds.

There is a segment of the game where there are multiple signs, each one going "ohhh there is nothing in this direction", and if you keep going, like the stairs in lisa, there is nothing at the end, well, there is large quantity of spikes that harm you. When I found that I had 2 shields, meaning, I could damage boost through it, and I did so, and I expected to find a secret, an easter egg of some sort maybe, what happened is that the falling out of the earth cutscene triggered

You can say that last one is a nitpick, as it doesn't really affect the gameplay outside that one fringe scenario, but then we have the stealth segment. This game has infinite lifes, and it tries to explain that in universe with "the lazarus chip", something that allows the robot to basically restart a zone after it crashes and dies. Everything resets, cycles reset, your shields reset, your position resets, time resets, the only thing that don't resets it's the colectables for QoL reasons, turns out, something that doesn't reset is your alert status, so if you get caught and die because of it, after you respawn, alert is still up

How do you clear the alert?, well, in most stealth games is just hiding from view, as long as they don't see you, alert will go down, this game usually offer some sort of hiding place such as lockers, this just helps you not gettign seen, but they're not mechanically needed. In this game, you can wait for 20 minutes without anyone sees you, the alert isn't going away, it's only if you get in a hiding spot that the alert will go down

the gameplay in general suck, mainly because the controls suck, first of all, even if this is an indie game only released for PC, it basically has no keybord support. When you play any videogame and you're in a tutorial, some text will usually come on screen that says press x button to do y, if you're using a controller it will show you a controller button, and if you're using kb it will show a key, in fact, if you are in a part of the game where there is a prompt like that, and you plug a controller or click with the mouse after having used a controller you can see that button prompt change live

In this game, those prompts are hard-coded to be controller only, so it won't display what keys to press in keyboard, also, the keyboard default controls are awful. I'm playing with an xbox controller, this is also what the prompts show, the xbox controller has 4 main buttons, A B X Y, the way the keyboard is mapped is to literally copy the letter, so to press the equivalent of the Y button in the xbox controler you would have to press the Y key in the keyboard, this is fucking insane.

Thing is, even if you're using a controller, the game still doesn't fucking work, many times the game will just stop detecting the run imput or won't really react to you pressing a button or direction, it's not responsive at all and a lot of deaths feel unfair

another element that helps death feeling unfair is the hitboxes being awful, actually being bigger than the sprite

There is a small race segment, and in all racing games or games with car, or any game with any sort of control scheme in general, the speed the character movies is determined by how deep you're pushing the joystick, so if you only push it slightly you will move very slowly and if you go all in it will be like pressing it down into a keyboard, this game doesn't have that graduality.

Also the timer of total time played doesn't count cutscenes?, this is significant since there are a lot of cutscenes.

Also power ups have a time limit which is variable yet no indication of how much power up is left

Also whenever you stop moving to try to be more precise with a jump or something the screen IMMEDIATLY starts zooming to the protagonist

The entire screen flips when you change gravity instead of just changing gravity, something that is very head-ache producing

this game is just truly one of the worst videogames i've ever played, I don't know how they fucked up so much, like these are things that even YIIK nails for the love of god, I want to know what do you see in this game since this just feels like thrash

it's awful, just, awful, placed in how could you do this to me
ah fuck thats sad

well im sorry for teling you to play that I personally just liked it lmfao

I got other good games tho (games I think you'd like, they arent indie btw) but they take WAY more than 8 hours
but yeah, i'm curious, didn't you face any of those thousands of bugs or control problems or plot holes on your playthrough?
emajakolic

Patatitta wrote:

emajakolic wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Horace (Dropped)

acutally nope, cant do this, i've gotten to the finale of chapter 6, apparently there are 22 chapters, this game is awful in every single way

Horace is a 2d platformer about a robot built by a family tasked with cleaning a milion thrash pieces, but the general plot is that the robot runs around and helps people, the story is told via narration from microsoft sam, all of the dialogue happens in prerendered cutscenes which are just basically the scenary you're in but with random zooms

While i'm fine with the narration, I dislike the prerendered cutscenes thing as it doesn't allow me to read the story and progress it at my own pace. In nearly every videogame ever created, when there is dialogue, it will slowly show on screen, having an effect where it's written on screen, however, if you want to that text to advance fast, you can either change the text speed in settings, or, when a dialogue is being written on screen, you can click on it to make it instantly jump torwards the very end of the animation, after that, another click will change the dialogue to the next, if there is a voiceover it will cut of and it will start the next line

Problem with the prerendered cutscenes is that they remove that freedom the player has of reading the texts at their own pace, and given the high quantities of dialogue this game has, that's a feature that you very much end up wishing it existed

Now, that's not the only problem the cinematics have, let's say for example you had a room with two lasers, and you wanted to make a cinematic of those lasers deactivating, how would you do it?, personally, I would show the whole screen, the two lasers both visible, and show them both deactivating at the same time with a sound effect that indicates hey they have deactivated, what this game does is that it focus on one laser, after half a second it deactivates, it stays on that laser for another half a second, then it moves to the next laser and repeats. That combined with the dialogue, the game cutscenes feel like they're wasting your time on purpouse

The last problem I've had with the cinematics is that they often trigger late, like, you pass over the trigger, and then it takes like 2 full seconds for the cinematic to trigger

The actual story is fine, nothing had really happened so far, but there are a couple of inconsistencies and plot holes in the story so far, mainly, the character is only a robot when it interests the plot, for example, there is a scene where the protagonist is shown television, and it watches a lot of movies, this is later reinforced later by making a star wars references, showing that it has learned a little bit about pop culture and stuff, however, they still don't know what the word "rescue" meant.

1- This would be ingrained in the dictionary attached with the language module of the robot
2- Even if you didn't, you would have learnt it by watching movies.

Like, it makes no sense why the robot doesn't know what rescue is, othe rthan the game going "remember it is a robot it's quirky"

This type of inconsistencies and overall lack of polish is shown everywhere in the game, for example, a game mechanic is that touching a wall will change your gravity to the direction of that wall, thing is, if you touch a ceiling and then fall off the map, while still having that upwards gravity, you will see a small cutscene of the robot falling out of the planet, this makes sense, (my only complaint here is that you cant skip the cutscene so if you fail a jump multiple times you always have to sit down and watch the 5 second cutscene which is annoying). The problem is that it turns out that this cinematic isn't tied to the act of falling upwards in an open air map, it's appied to everywhere out of bounds.

There is a segment of the game where there are multiple signs, each one going "ohhh there is nothing in this direction", and if you keep going, like the stairs in lisa, there is nothing at the end, well, there is large quantity of spikes that harm you. When I found that I had 2 shields, meaning, I could damage boost through it, and I did so, and I expected to find a secret, an easter egg of some sort maybe, what happened is that the falling out of the earth cutscene triggered

You can say that last one is a nitpick, as it doesn't really affect the gameplay outside that one fringe scenario, but then we have the stealth segment. This game has infinite lifes, and it tries to explain that in universe with "the lazarus chip", something that allows the robot to basically restart a zone after it crashes and dies. Everything resets, cycles reset, your shields reset, your position resets, time resets, the only thing that don't resets it's the colectables for QoL reasons, turns out, something that doesn't reset is your alert status, so if you get caught and die because of it, after you respawn, alert is still up

How do you clear the alert?, well, in most stealth games is just hiding from view, as long as they don't see you, alert will go down, this game usually offer some sort of hiding place such as lockers, this just helps you not gettign seen, but they're not mechanically needed. In this game, you can wait for 20 minutes without anyone sees you, the alert isn't going away, it's only if you get in a hiding spot that the alert will go down

the gameplay in general suck, mainly because the controls suck, first of all, even if this is an indie game only released for PC, it basically has no keybord support. When you play any videogame and you're in a tutorial, some text will usually come on screen that says press x button to do y, if you're using a controller it will show you a controller button, and if you're using kb it will show a key, in fact, if you are in a part of the game where there is a prompt like that, and you plug a controller or click with the mouse after having used a controller you can see that button prompt change live

In this game, those prompts are hard-coded to be controller only, so it won't display what keys to press in keyboard, also, the keyboard default controls are awful. I'm playing with an xbox controller, this is also what the prompts show, the xbox controller has 4 main buttons, A B X Y, the way the keyboard is mapped is to literally copy the letter, so to press the equivalent of the Y button in the xbox controler you would have to press the Y key in the keyboard, this is fucking insane.

Thing is, even if you're using a controller, the game still doesn't fucking work, many times the game will just stop detecting the run imput or won't really react to you pressing a button or direction, it's not responsive at all and a lot of deaths feel unfair

another element that helps death feeling unfair is the hitboxes being awful, actually being bigger than the sprite

There is a small race segment, and in all racing games or games with car, or any game with any sort of control scheme in general, the speed the character movies is determined by how deep you're pushing the joystick, so if you only push it slightly you will move very slowly and if you go all in it will be like pressing it down into a keyboard, this game doesn't have that graduality.

Also the timer of total time played doesn't count cutscenes?, this is significant since there are a lot of cutscenes.

Also power ups have a time limit which is variable yet no indication of how much power up is left

Also whenever you stop moving to try to be more precise with a jump or something the screen IMMEDIATLY starts zooming to the protagonist

The entire screen flips when you change gravity instead of just changing gravity, something that is very head-ache producing

this game is just truly one of the worst videogames i've ever played, I don't know how they fucked up so much, like these are things that even YIIK nails for the love of god, I want to know what do you see in this game since this just feels like thrash

it's awful, just, awful, placed in how could you do this to me
ah fuck thats sad

well im sorry for teling you to play that I personally just liked it lmfao

I got other good games tho (games I think you'd like, they arent indie btw) but they take WAY more than 8 hours
but yeah, i'm curious, didn't you face any of those thousands of bugs or control problems or plot holes on your playthrough?
tbh no I didnt like it went fine
Rezq Gokou
Has anyone mentioned Oreimo yet?
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Rezq Gokou wrote:

Has anyone mentioned Oreimo yet?
nope
abraker
Review The Giver
Topic Starter
Patatitta

abraker wrote:

Review The Giver
This?
abraker

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Review The Giver
This?
The book

Topic Starter
Patatitta

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Review The Giver
This?
The book

will leave in limbo rn, starting school in a few days idk if I will have the time or not
Rezq Gokou

Patatitta wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

Has anyone mentioned Oreimo yet?
nope
aight, rate it
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Rezq Gokou wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

Has anyone mentioned Oreimo yet?
nope
aight, rate it
I assume you mean the anime right?
Topic Starter
Patatitta
oreimo (dropped)

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i'm absolutely not doing the incest lolicon anime
Rezq Gokou
expected
reffty_gag
Watch AnoHana (the anime series, 2011)
DM FOR MUTUAL

reffty_gag wrote:

Watch AnoHana (the anime series, 2011)
I wanna start guessing what rating you'll give stuff I know

I'm gonna guess A
Topic Starter
Patatitta

reffty_gag wrote:

Watch AnoHana (the anime series, 2011)
already watched did do later
DM FOR MUTUAL
Kinda crazy no-one's requested Evangelion yet, so I'll request it now

(For the 0.0001% chance you haven't watched it, watch the series "Neon Genesis Evangelion" first, then the movie "The End Of Evangelion")

My guess for your rating is B, and here's my thought process:

I feel like Evangelion moreso than a lot of other pieces of media/art generates a lot of different opinions, so honestly I wouldn't be surprised you giving it literally any tier except maybe "How could you ever do this to me".

I think one of the biggest reasons for this is that it feels like a very "holey" piece of art, like you can very easily poke a lot of holes in it and criticize and dislike many different aspects, and I feel like you'd be the type of guy to jump at these holes.

Next is that idk you don't seem very depressed? Internet armchair psychoanalysis right in front of the person in question's face aside, I feel like the enjoyment of Evangelion mostly hinges on the fact that it's about depression and other related negative emotions, and a person's response to what the anime is trying to say is going to be a major factor in how much they liked it. Not saying you need to be depressed to feel like the depression stuff is cool, but there's probably a correlation because it's easier to sympathise with the content of the anime the more you've experienced it yourself.

I feel like it won't be a super low rating though, like you seem to really appreciate the finer artistry in things, like how you can go off about a single page in Land of the Lustrous or Witch Hat Atelier, and I'm guessing this stuff is going to be a positive unless you really hate everything else to the point that this artistry isn't appreciable instead of just finding it just mid or vaguely interesting. When I was watching it I specifically remember there being a lot of cool shots and imagery, and that was a big part of my enjoyment of this series, but also that might've just been me trying to engage with this show a bit more than other anime because apparently this was supposed to be an epic big brain anime or something.

And in the end you seem to be the type of guy to go against popular opinion on a fair amount of things, and like the least hot hot take about anime in terms of how much it's said is that Evangelion is mid.

So my guess is B

Surely S tier though 🙏, I love Evangelion
Topic Starter
Patatitta

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

Kinda crazy no-one's requested Evangelion yet, so I'll request it now

(For the 0.0001% chance you haven't watched it, watch the series "Neon Genesis Evangelion" first, then the movie "The End Of Evangelion")

My guess for your rating is B, and here's my thought process:

I feel like Evangelion moreso than a lot of other pieces of media/art generates a lot of different opinions, so honestly I wouldn't be surprised you giving it literally any tier except maybe "How could you ever do this to me".

I think one of the biggest reasons for this is that it feels like a very "holey" piece of art, like you can very easily poke a lot of holes in it and criticize and dislike many different aspects, and I feel like you'd be the type of guy to jump at these holes.

Next is that idk you don't seem very depressed? Internet armchair psychoanalysis right in front of the person in question's face aside, I feel like the enjoyment of Evangelion mostly hinges on the fact that it's about depression and other related negative emotions, and a person's response to what the anime is trying to say is going to be a major factor in how much they liked it. Not saying you need to be depressed to feel like the depression stuff is cool, but there's probably a correlation because it's easier to sympathise with the content of the anime the more you've experienced it yourself.

I feel like it won't be a super low rating though, like you seem to really appreciate the finer artistry in things, like how you can go off about a single page in Land of the Lustrous or Witch Hat Atelier, and I'm guessing this stuff is going to be a positive unless you really hate everything else to the point that this artistry isn't appreciable instead of just finding it just mid or vaguely interesting. When I was watching it I specifically remember there being a lot of cool shots and imagery, and that was a big part of my enjoyment of this series, but also that might've just been me trying to engage with this show a bit more than other anime because apparently this was supposed to be an epic big brain anime or something.

And in the end you seem to be the type of guy to go against popular opinion on a fair amount of things, and like the least hot hot take about anime in terms of how much it's said is that Evangelion is mid.

So my guess is B

Surely S tier though 🙏, I love Evangelion
i've seen it, I have a lot of opinions about it, but it's not because of what you've written
Rezq Gokou
I was just joking about Oreimo. Rate Yakuza 0 or if you can't because too long rate A Space for the Unbound
Topic Starter
Patatitta
Anohana:

It's a pretty sad and emotional anime about a group of friends who see the ghost out of someone who used to be part of the group of friends, I enjoyed it

I'm a little bit blurry on it since I watched it quite some time ago, but, while it generally doesn't do anything too groundbreaking, it is very much enjoyable, not the most emotional, but it does kinda get to you

A thing I like about this anime compared to the other animes and games that have come out since then which are also about copign with the death of someone is that no one in anohana is really an asshole?, like, yes, they're affected by it, but it's clear that everyone has almost moved on, there are still underground, subconcious damage which is what the anime is focused on, buit it's not like you would see in omori of the changes being radical

A thing that anohana also has that other animes of this type really do is that focus on social relationship and if well, they actually trust the protagonist on that they ahve seen the ghost, because there are characters in this movie that will choose to act like they believe the protagonist even if they don't just to try to help them, and I think the exploration of that is neat

outside that, yeah, nothing anohana does is something I haven't already talked about in this thread

still pretty good

edit: honestly i've been thinking around it more, and I think it's also important that the character that dies or whatever is moe, because if it isn't moe and it's instead kind of an lovable asshole it just doesn't hit the same

placed on A rank

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Evangelion

Evangelion is a good anime, let's get that out first, however, there are certain things that I'm slightly mad about

First of all, evangelion, the original 24 episode anime is FULLY a mecha anime, it's not like "oh they subvert your thoughts about mechas" no the fuck that doesn't happen, original evangelion is big robots battling weird space things, and there is nothing wrong with that, while I don't think action is the most exciting, the characters have solid writing and I think the small moments of comedy go a long way

thing is, the last 4 chapters or so are a total mess?, they kinda completely change the focus of the anime and go deep into very psychological abstract storytelling which is something that while it is very popular today, it wasn't as popular back in the day, problem is that the ending was VERY unsatisfactory, it didn't really resolve the plotlines it had in a meaningful way, the animation quality suffered due to low budget, it was by all means a pretty bad ending, it was a badly done genre switch

you may see "oh well there were actually a bit of foreshadowing indicating that the anime was going to go that direction", this is missing the point. Let's say you were a mecha anime fan, you love gundam, you've even seen the previous anime of hideaki anno, gunbusters, and they make a new mecha anime, and you watch it expecting well a mecha anime, and under that context, under that lenses, there is no forshadowing, as that foreshadowing only exists if you're seeing it under a psychological anime lens

but let's say you were going to watch it as a psychological anime, now you have to basically watch 20 episodes of a mecha anime that you just don't really care about

after the release of evangelion, hideaki anno reportedly saw the ending again, and actually went "oh wait shit this doesn't work", and made the movie the end of evangelion to try to fix it

the end of evangelion is fine, I enjoyed it, it just really expands the ending with some pretty good cinematography and makes it actually easy to understand to general audiences, the movie was a success, people were happy with it, but evangelion still wasn't the best anime it could be, because while yes, that ending was fairly good and strong, the anime suffered from having 20 episodes of mechas fighting

Thing is, today, original evangelion has a reputation that I would go as far to say as it's undeserved. Currently the way evangelion is seen is "oh you're not smart enough to understand the end of evangelion", a lot of the fame evangelion has, (at least in spanish/speaking internet) it's that it's a extremely complex deeply psychological anime that subvers the mecha genre to do some wack stuff and it's also like extremely difficult to understasnd and not something normies would get

this is nowhere close to reality, evangelion isn't nearly that deep or hard to understand, but it has become the face of an entire part of the anime industry and that is something that we have to live with

Thing is, there is a reason why i'm calling it original evangelion, and that is, because the rebuild movies exist

a complete reimagination of evangelion that fixes the original series by actually managing your expectations properly and having the start and the end actually connect. Yes, the third movie is kinda bad, but i'm sorry, rebuild is just the best form of evangelion full stop, 4.0 is WAY better than the end evangelion

yet, you barely see any discussion of rebuild compared to discussion of the original anime, even you requested the original anime instead of the directly superior version, and that is, because the rebuild movies after the release of 4.0 don't really have that same reputation?

4.0 is a really easy movie to understand. It's still clearly has that mecha anime ADN but the psychological elements are introduced in way less dissonant way with way better animation and an ending that is WAY better IMO.

It's just, for a psychological anime, I think the discussions surrounding it are very superficial, at least for the original anime, it's like lain, the discussions surrounding lain are never about well, what the anime actually has to say but more the aesthetics and culture surrounding that anime

thing is, evangelion isn't even the best thing hideaki anno has done. He has other movies and animes (wow shocking I know), and like, ritual is better than original evangelion and I think it's around equal to 4.0 and that movie also has shinji iwai as one of the protagonists and honestly I don't think he was even acting he is just like that

Placed rebuild in A rank, placed original/end of evangelion in B rank.
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Rezq Gokou wrote:

I was just joking about Oreimo. Rate Yakuza 0 or if you can't because too long rate A Space for the Unbound
already did a space for the unbound, check in the main thread, for yakuza 0, I will do later as I have already beaten that game (alon with the rest of the yakuza franchise with the exception of infinite wealth and some spinoffs like ishin or lost judgement)
Topic Starter
Patatitta
actually doing it now because if not then I would have to update the tierlist twice and I feel more lazy thinking about having to open photoshop twice than taking more time of my day rn

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Yakuza 0

banger game and a banger franchise

Yakuza 0 is the second best yakuza game, and one of the three yakuza games I would consider to be peak (Like a dragon > zero > the man who erased his name)

Yakuza is a dated franchise, kiwami 1 and 2 aren't the best feeling games and 3-4 are kinda painful to play, what yakuza 0 offered is a way better entrypoint to the franchise and also to expand the franchise to the west

The gameplay of yakuza 0 isn't the most special, it has some pretty nice beat em up combat that works and it's fun, but it's neither the focus or what it does best, instead, yakuza 0 has two banger elements, and that is the story, and the minigames.

Generally, every yakuza game has a banger plot, it's the franchise strongest point, majime and kiryu are just fucking amazing, they're just really nice individuals placed in really awful situations that really humanizes them, the cinematics are fucking incredible and it's just amazing from start to end, probably my favourite gangster story even above things like the godfather

and now, the minigames. A lot of open world games have minigames, but honestly in most games they just feel like filler, a way to maybe pad the runtime or make the game feel bigger, like even in gta, the minigames are pretty basic and boring, however the minigames in yakuza are all sick as fuck. They have a lot more love put into it than any other game and they're often so over the top that you just want to keep advanding in the minigames see what happens

also, later in the franchise, the minigames start actually giving real gameplay advantages so it's even more encouraged to play it

on a similar note you have the sidequests, while the main plot is very grim, the sidequests, just like the mingames are very silly and honestly just comedy pieces, and as i've said in the past, we need more comedy in videogames

so yeah, A rank.
DM FOR MUTUAL
damn I guessed both ratings correctly

Yeah evangelion goes off the rails in the end and it is a common criticism of eva. Although personally those episodes were something I really enjoyed. It's not conventional, they were meant to be more normal, but through the limitations of what was going on irl, they were able to birth really interesting and powerful art from it. A lot of my enjoyment came from the fact that it's so messy, the messyness makes it feel so raw and makes everything feel as fucked up as the characters are feeling. I'd go as far to say the last two episodes are my two favourite episodes even though they are literally just a slideshow with the type of philosophical self-introspection you do while pacing around in your room at 2 in the morning.

Wrote a whole paragraph here but I realised I was just agreeing with you so I deleted it

Haven't watched the rebuild movies but I really want to so I didn't read what you said about the rebuild movies
Topic Starter
Patatitta

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

damn I guessed both ratings correctly

Yeah evangelion goes off the rails in the end and it is a common criticism of eva. Although personally those episodes were something I really enjoyed. It's not conventional, they were meant to be more normal, but through the limitations of what was going on irl, they were able to birth really interesting and powerful art from it. A lot of my enjoyment came from the fact that it's so messy, the messyness makes it feel so raw and makes everything feel as fucked up as the characters are feeling. I'd go as far to say the last two episodes are my two favourite episodes even though they are literally just a slideshow with the type of philosophical self-introspection you do while pacing around in your room at 2 in the morning.

Wrote a whole paragraph here but I realised I was just agreeing with you so I deleted it

Haven't watched the rebuild movies but I really want to so I didn't read what you said about the rebuild movies
idk, I just think that there are way better psychological anime out there and the reputation evangelion has isn't really deseved
DM FOR MUTUAL

Patatitta wrote:

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

damn I guessed both ratings correctly

Yeah evangelion goes off the rails in the end and it is a common criticism of eva. Although personally those episodes were something I really enjoyed. It's not conventional, they were meant to be more normal, but through the limitations of what was going on irl, they were able to birth really interesting and powerful art from it. A lot of my enjoyment came from the fact that it's so messy, the messyness makes it feel so raw and makes everything feel as fucked up as the characters are feeling. I'd go as far to say the last two episodes are my two favourite episodes even though they are literally just a slideshow with the type of philosophical self-introspection you do while pacing around in your room at 2 in the morning.

Wrote a whole paragraph here but I realised I was just agreeing with you so I deleted it

Haven't watched the rebuild movies but I really want to so I didn't read what you said about the rebuild movies
idk, I just think that there are way better psychological anime out there and the reputation evangelion has isn't really deseved
I agree with the reputation thing, it feels really overhyped when there's so many people out there that don't think it's the greatest thing ever like you, and yeah it's not that deep or hard to understand, like it's plenty deep but it feels like the deepest thing ever because the deepness is really in-your-face, and the reason it feels hard to understand because it just abandoned being a conventional mecha anime and decided to be as mind-breaky as possible, even though what it's actually trying to say is easy to pick up on with how in-your-face it is. What even is deepness, is it just a piece of art trying to explore profound ideas?
Nuuskamuikkunen
Cipher the Video plz
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

Cipher the Video plz
sure
Ymir
Hotline Miami
Jangsoodlor
how tf this thread gets 11k views
Corne2Plum3

Jangsoodlor wrote:

how tf this thread gets 11k views
It's almost every time on the first page for 11 months
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Ymir wrote:

Hotline Miami
i've already beaten it but not the type of game I play for this thread, still good game don't get me wrong
Reyalp51
You know what im doing it im requesting my lesbian experience with lonliness, super quick to read and i want to know what do you think about the first half
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Reyalp51 wrote:

You know what im doing it im requesting my lesbian experience with lonliness, super quick to read and i want to know what do you think about the first half
yeah sure
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

Cipher the Video plz
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I have no clue what I just watched

this is an "adaptation" of the 80's shoujo manga cipher except it is not and instead it's like a really long music video (26 mins) with like a 5 minute long typical sitcom intro in the middle before it goes back to fucking kenny loggins

nothing of this made any sense at all, it feels like something you would see as a fan project nowadays, I have no clue what to say about this

placed in D rank
Nuuskamuikkunen

Patatitta wrote:

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

Cipher the Video plz
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I have no clue what I just watched

this is an "adaptation" of the 80's shoujo manga cipher except it is not and instead it's like a really long music video (26 mins) with like a 5 minute long typical sitcom intro in the middle before it goes back to fucking kenny loggins

nothing of this made any sense at all, it feels like something you would see as a fan project nowadays, I have no clue what to say about this

placed in D rank
Why is it in D.
Why is it so high.
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

Cipher the Video plz
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I have no clue what I just watched

this is an "adaptation" of the 80's shoujo manga cipher except it is not and instead it's like a really long music video (26 mins) with like a 5 minute long typical sitcom intro in the middle before it goes back to fucking kenny loggins

nothing of this made any sense at all, it feels like something you would see as a fan project nowadays, I have no clue what to say about this

placed in D rank
Why is it in D.
Why is it so high.
idk not painful to watch
Topic Starter
Patatitta
my lesbian experience with loneliness

My lesbian experience with loneliness is the true story of a woman with mental illness struggling with life who ends up hiring a lesbian prostitute

I can't really write this in the same way I write everything else on here, this is a true story, I can't say "oh I think whatever of the art" it's just not right, it's a really heavy story, that makes you think, honestly you will probably be a better human being after reading this, it's a really hard and complex topic that you really have to be VERY careful with

I don't know man I think it's good and i'm really thinking hard about shit rn, it's only 1 volume, if anyone is interested please rated

placed in not rated because no way i'm putting this on the tier list
Reyalp51

Patatitta wrote:

my lesbian experience with loneliness

My lesbian experience with loneliness is the true story of a woman with mental illness struggling with life who ends up hiring a lesbian prostitute

I can't really write this in the same way I write everything else on here, this is a true story, I can't say "oh I think whatever of the art" it's just not right, it's a really heavy story, that makes you think, honestly you will probably be a better human being after reading this, it's a really hard and complex topic that you really have to be VERY careful with

I don't know man I think it's good and i'm really thinking hard about shit rn, it's only 1 volume, if anyone is interested please rated

placed in not rated because no way i'm putting this on the tier list
hahaha i see i had the same feeling when i read yomawari sensei and this, glad you apreciated it too
Nyzhenets
Mekakucity Actors (anime)
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Nyzhenets wrote:

Mekakucity Actors (anime)
sure
npc_BeaniCraft
Pikmin 1 (game)
Topic Starter
Patatitta

npc_BeaniCraft wrote:

Pikmin 1 (game)
not the type of game I do for this thread
igorsprite

Patatitta wrote:

my lesbian experience with loneliness

My lesbian experience with loneliness is the true story of a woman with mental illness struggling with life who ends up hiring a lesbian prostitute

I can't really write this in the same way I write everything else on here, this is a true story, I can't say "oh I think whatever of the art" it's just not right, it's a really heavy story, that makes you think, honestly you will probably be a better human being after reading this, it's a really hard and complex topic that you really have to be VERY careful with

I don't know man I think it's good and i'm really thinking hard about shit rn, it's only 1 volume, if anyone is interested please rated

placed in not rated because no way i'm putting this on the tier list
the most interesting ones you don't rate :(
Topic Starter
Patatitta

igorsprite wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

my lesbian experience with loneliness

My lesbian experience with loneliness is the true story of a woman with mental illness struggling with life who ends up hiring a lesbian prostitute

I can't really write this in the same way I write everything else on here, this is a true story, I can't say "oh I think whatever of the art" it's just not right, it's a really heavy story, that makes you think, honestly you will probably be a better human being after reading this, it's a really hard and complex topic that you really have to be VERY careful with

I don't know man I think it's good and i'm really thinking hard about shit rn, it's only 1 volume, if anyone is interested please rated

placed in not rated because no way i'm putting this on the tier list
the most interesting ones you don't rate :(
have you read it
igorsprite

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

my lesbian experience with loneliness

My lesbian experience with loneliness is the true story of a woman with mental illness struggling with life who ends up hiring a lesbian prostitute

I can't really write this in the same way I write everything else on here, this is a true story, I can't say "oh I think whatever of the art" it's just not right, it's a really heavy story, that makes you think, honestly you will probably be a better human being after reading this, it's a really hard and complex topic that you really have to be VERY careful with

I don't know man I think it's good and i'm really thinking hard about shit rn, it's only 1 volume, if anyone is interested please rated

placed in not rated because no way i'm putting this on the tier list
the most interesting ones you don't rate :(
have you read it
the story?
Topic Starter
Patatitta

igorsprite wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

my lesbian experience with loneliness

My lesbian experience with loneliness is the true story of a woman with mental illness struggling with life who ends up hiring a lesbian prostitute

I can't really write this in the same way I write everything else on here, this is a true story, I can't say "oh I think whatever of the art" it's just not right, it's a really heavy story, that makes you think, honestly you will probably be a better human being after reading this, it's a really hard and complex topic that you really have to be VERY careful with

I don't know man I think it's good and i'm really thinking hard about shit rn, it's only 1 volume, if anyone is interested please rated

placed in not rated because no way i'm putting this on the tier list
the most interesting ones you don't rate :(
have you read it
the story?
the manga yeah
npc_BeaniCraft

Patatitta wrote:

npc_BeaniCraft wrote:

Pikmin 1 (game)
not the type of game I do for this thread
ah, okay
igorsprite

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

my lesbian experience with loneliness

My lesbian experience with loneliness is the true story of a woman with mental illness struggling with life who ends up hiring a lesbian prostitute

I can't really write this in the same way I write everything else on here, this is a true story, I can't say "oh I think whatever of the art" it's just not right, it's a really heavy story, that makes you think, honestly you will probably be a better human being after reading this, it's a really hard and complex topic that you really have to be VERY careful with

I don't know man I think it's good and i'm really thinking hard about shit rn, it's only 1 volume, if anyone is interested please rated

placed in not rated because no way i'm putting this on the tier list
the most interesting ones you don't rate :(
have you read it
the story?
the manga yeah
i read it when i was younger so i don't remember anything, just that i liked the story. i would give it an A (maybe an S if i read it again) because the story was good enough to leave a good impression on me, even though i don't remember any details lol. true stories have always fascinated me because they are that, true. for that reason alone they surpass any fiction xd.

when i was a kid i heard a story about a couple who killed people and started selling their meat on the street for people to eat, but this couple hid the meat inside street food so no one would notice, and people liked the taste even though they found it a little strange. when the police arrested this couple and people found out through the newspaper, the city went years without eating street food. after i heard this story the world became more interesting to me because i didn't imagine that these things could happen in real life.

btw, rating true stories is not about criticizing the fact, but how the story was told and how it affected you. if "My Lesbian Experience with Loneliness" was a youtube video, it wouldn't have the same impact on you as a manga.
Topic Starter
Patatitta

igorsprite wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

my lesbian experience with loneliness

My lesbian experience with loneliness is the true story of a woman with mental illness struggling with life who ends up hiring a lesbian prostitute

I can't really write this in the same way I write everything else on here, this is a true story, I can't say "oh I think whatever of the art" it's just not right, it's a really heavy story, that makes you think, honestly you will probably be a better human being after reading this, it's a really hard and complex topic that you really have to be VERY careful with

I don't know man I think it's good and i'm really thinking hard about shit rn, it's only 1 volume, if anyone is interested please rated

placed in not rated because no way i'm putting this on the tier list
the most interesting ones you don't rate :(
have you read it
the story?
the manga yeah
i read it when i was younger so i don't remember anything, just that i liked the story. i would give it an A (maybe an S if i read it again) because the story was good enough to leave a good impression on me, even though i don't remember any details lol. true stories have always fascinated me because they are that, true. for that reason alone they surpass any fiction xd.

when i was a kid i heard a story about a couple who killed people and started selling their meat on the street for people to eat, but this couple hid the meat inside street food so no one would notice, and people liked the taste even though they found it a little strange. when the police arrested this couple and people found out through the newspaper, the city went years without eating street food. after i heard this story the world became more interesting to me because i didn't imagine that these things could happen in real life.

btw, rating true stories is not about criticizing the fact, but how the story was told and how it affected you. if "My Lesbian Experience with Loneliness" was a youtube video, it wouldn't have the same impact on you as a manga.
I think there is a bit more nuance to it, yes, I agree there are better and worse ways to rate a true story, but given how personal the manga is and how the topics it covers are very delicate and hard to speak about, I just prefeer not to rate it
Jangsoodlor
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Jangsoodlor wrote:

watch Johnny English
sure
abraker
Ergo Proxy
Topic Starter
Patatitta

abraker wrote:

Ergo Proxy
I watched this I think a week ago

it's ok

ergo proxy is a anime that very much takes direct inspiration from ghost in the shell, however, in modern culture it's often associated more to shows like lain or texhnolyze, in fact, both ergo proxy and ghost in the shell kinda tackle the same topics, the stand alone complex of ghost in the shell is really similar to the proxy in ergo proxy

the idea of ergo proxy is a police/detective mistery story in this really advanced society that is closed to the rest of the world where they're struggling with robot rights and things like that, the topics it tackles are fairly deep, but I don't think they really explore those topics properly, unlike ghost in the shell, ergo proxy is more focused on the mistery itself

The mistery of ergo proxy is slow, this pacing helps you try to piece things in your head while you go, the way ergo proxy is animated also stands out compared to other animes, not because they do anything particullary interesting in the actual animation, but because of the cinematography, again, it being different to the norm gets you thinking

the problem with this is that they don't slowly introduce information, it's not like any sentence could say anything interesting, most of it is presented in big reveals, and during reveal and reveal there isn't really that much going on, I think the most clear example of this are the dream segments, they don't really advance the story forward until the very end where it's revealed to be a dream, it doesn't explore the philosophical topics of the anime, it doesn't really explore the characters either as they often have a different cast, and while they're fun by itself, it kinda just feels like filler, and when you realize that those moments doesn't really matter, a lot of the atmosphere of the anime is lost

it's a fine anime, but it has some flaws and it's completely overshadowed by ghost in the shell which is the exact same but like way better, placed in c tier

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i'm on chapter 6 of Mekakucity Actors, i'm not enjoying it that much but will finish it because I don't necessarily hate it eitehr
Rezq Gokou
troublemaker (game by gamecom team)
reffty_gag

Rezq Gokou wrote:

troublemaker (game by gamecom team)
ada indonesia coyy, damnn i forgor this game
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Rezq Gokou wrote:

troublemaker (game by gamecom team)
this one right? I can do it
Rezq Gokou

Patatitta wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

troublemaker (game by gamecom team)
this one right? I can do it
yes

reffty_gag wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

troublemaker (game by gamecom team)
ada indonesia coyy, damnn i forgor this game
A sequel incoming
Topic Starter
Patatitta
the game doesn't run, it's giving me a error message each time

Fatal error!

Unhandled Exception: 0xc06d007e

0x00007ffd4a4cb699 KERNELBASE.dll!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff6733af0ae Troublemaker-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff672e6b523 Troublemaker-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff6706901df Troublemaker-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff67295cf2e Troublemaker-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff672966d00 Troublemaker-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff672589933 Troublemaker-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff66fcfd48c Troublemaker-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff66fd04b3d Troublemaker-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff66fd04c7a Troublemaker-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff66fd063c4 Troublemaker-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff66fd0f004 Troublemaker-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff6733b04ae Troublemaker-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ffd4b877374 KERNEL32.DLL!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ffd4ca7cc91 ntdll.dll!UnknownFunction []

the game seems to refuse to run and given i've just spent 15 minutes troubleshooting the game while watching tutorials in a language I do not speak I may give up on this

tried the DirectX thing, tried deleting the folder in the appdata, and also did the typical things like compatibility mode and reinstalling and drivers
Rezq Gokou
sadge
Topic Starter
Patatitta
Mekakucity Actors

it's bad

the plot is about stuff I suppose I don't know it's a mess on every single level, first of all, there are way too many main characters, almost none of them are explored, they often don't really feel that different from each other because of that, I honestly kinda faded out in the middle of the anime I just didn't really care

like, usually animes or games have characters that get you interested in the plot, you often keep playing or watching just because you want to see that one character, this anime doesn't have that and the plot really doesn't hold on it's own

The real hook of this anime is the animation and i'm sorry eblf this fucking sucks it doesn't fit the anime at all, there is such a think as overproducing and this anime is just filled with it.

This anime is set on a school, the characters are "normal" high school students just placed in a interesting situation, this is something that most anime in the past have nailed, they're often static environment with not much going on so it's easy to draw and for you to get the idea

however, shaft isn't like that, shaft needs to be more artsy and cool and it just completely messes it up in this anime, because the school doesn't feel like a school, it feels like a vortex of color in the crossroads between time and multiple realities, the land where a divine creature would fall from the heaven to give you a magical orb of inimaginable power that you would later use to defeat the evil titan in a epic universe destroying combat

and it's not that it doesn't feel like a school and that the animation is actively sabotaging the setting, this also translates to the way the characters act and move, the most obvious example is the shaft head twist which kinda makes as character look smug and misterious but they're fucking high school students they don't need to be smug and misterious, it just fucks up the atmosphere

the animation sets this really serious and intense tone when the actual story of the anime is very light for most of the anime so there is a really big discrepancy between the story and the animation

also randomly in the anime they will have some sort of musical segment which I appreciate this anime having a good OST but make the moments where you shut everything up and focus on the song make sense?, there are moments where nothing is really happening and then the song kicks in and it's like what why

placed in D rank

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johnny english

my dad walked in and went "is that johnny english?, I love that movie" and honestly dad you're so right this movie is enjoyable

johnny english is a british comedy movie parody of spy movies like james bond or whatever, the main actor Rowan Atkinson also known as mr bean. In this movie he plays as johnny english, which is basically mr bean, a good for nothing type of person who kinda just fakes it till he makes it in very humoristic ways

johnny english is not the most complex movie, or the most ambitious, it's not something I would really recommend to anyone if they asked me for comedy movies even, but it works, it really does work, there isn't really anything wrong in this movie, it's just some light-hearted comedy fun

the parody aspect is pretty well done, as it's just a regular spy movie but the protagonist is johnny english, and just by having that a lot of the weird parts of spy movies that we would normally ignore kinda shine brighter, which really makes you think

and well, it's just fun, I liked it, placed in B tier, may watch the sequels in the future
Jangsoodlor
glad u enjoy johnny english
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watch oregairu next
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Jangsoodlor wrote:

glad u enjoy johnny english
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watch oregairu next
I guess I can yeah
DM FOR MUTUAL

Patatitta wrote:

Jangsoodlor wrote:

glad u enjoy johnny english
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watch oregairu next
I guess I can yeah
I'm gonna guess A or B, uhhhh B
abraker
Mars of Destruction
Topic Starter
Patatitta

abraker wrote:

Mars of Destruction
why
abraker

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Mars of Destruction
why
why not


Topic Starter
Patatitta

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Mars of Destruction
why
why not


I guess I could but i'm not very happy about it
Topic Starter
Patatitta
Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru (oregairu)

I don't get this anime

The plot of onegairu follows this guy who is a social outcast and is forced to join the school "service club", a club for social outcasts to learn how to behave in society by helping everyone who comes into the school with a problem, in here the protagonist meets the female protagonist and they accept to a bet where the person who helps more people via the service club, will be able to do any request to the other party

the concept is good, like, the plot of violet evergarden isn't actually too far off from that idea of learning how to fit in society, but the way it is handled in this anime is weird

I don't like how loneliness is portrayed in this anime, I feel it completely misses the point in many aspects, at first, the protagonists are presented as someone who just choses not to take part in society, same for the female MC, they're lonely because of their own choosing, in fact, they know very well how to behave in society. The way the requests play out is the two protagonists doing death note type mental combat while everyone else just sits and look around because they're the only two characters who are allowed to develop ideas

thing is, in this anime, loneliness is treated as something pathologic, something to be, you're never just lonely, there needs to exist a reason and for that reason to be something that can be fixed. It turns out, that the two protagonists aren't just lonely because they want to be lonely, it's because they had bad previous life experiences that prohibited them from being social, the third and last lonely character from the anime is yoshiteru, who has chuunibyou, something they literally consider a disease.

The protagonist, instead of feeling lonely feels edgy, always alone but way smarter than any other character and is pretty smug and unlikeable at times, the female MC doesn't feel too edgy but I wouldn't say she is properly written either, I just don't really know if the author knows how to actually write a lonely character

that part of the anime is so poorly written that is not sustainable, basically being dropped for the second and third season, which instead of focusing on many different requests they just focus on really big arcs with real stakes attached to them, so they double down on the mental battle thing

but these mental battles don't really feel genuine either, it's not really believable that only the two protagonists are capable of rational thought and that everyone else is a stereotypical villain

even looking at it purely by the romance, it's not really exactly well handled?, for a romance, there is surprisingly little emotion attached to it, which I feel is wasting the power of romances. The general idea of a romcom is that the comedy softens you up for the romance to hit harder, thing is, in this anime the romance doesn't really happen until the very last few episodes, outside that, it's not really a driving factor

also I don't like how totsuka is depicted, it's a femboy who plays tennis, the whole relationship between the mc and totsuka is "haha I want you to be my wife but omggg he's a guy I can't do that" and it just hurts

this is just a self-insert romcom like many others, placed in D rank

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next: Mars of Destruction
furry hater
maybe Final Fantasy Unlimited?
Topic Starter
Patatitta

furry hater wrote:

maybe Final Fantasy Unlimited?
do I need to play any of the ff games?
DM FOR MUTUAL

Patatitta wrote:

this is just a self-insert romcom like many others, placed in D rank
Damn I was way off
reffty_gag
watch "The Breadwinner" (2017, movie)
Topic Starter
Patatitta

reffty_gag wrote:

watch "The Breadwinner" (2017, movie)
sure
furry hater

Patatitta wrote:

furry hater wrote:

maybe Final Fantasy Unlimited?
do I need to play any of the ff games?
no
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