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I already did fallout 1, fallout 2, and fallout new vegas, which is literally based on fallout 3, do you really want me to play fallout 3?
if u’d like toPatatitta wrote:
I already did fallout 1, fallout 2, and fallout new vegas, which is literally based on fallout 3, do you really want me to play fallout 3?
South Park review?
Would land in "How could you ever do this to me" probably.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
South Park review?
It takes place on DC and the story is different.Patatitta wrote:
I already did fallout 1, fallout 2, and fallout new vegas, which is literally based on fallout 3, do you really want me to play fallout 3?
Also it's the only Fallout I played fully but I know the outline of the other games lel.
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nah I think i'm going to pass i've done too much fallout alreadysictarnished wrote:
if u’d like toPatatitta wrote:
I already did fallout 1, fallout 2, and fallout new vegas, which is literally based on fallout 3, do you really want me to play fallout 3?
episodical infinite running cartoon, no thank youCorne2Plum3 wrote:
South Park review?
Wait, it looks like Machikado Mazoku hasn't been recommended yet... let me fix that.
Machikado Mazoku.
Also: Joshiraku, Flying Witch, Amaama to Inazuma, and Asobi Asobase.
By the way, how many anime can I recommend at once? If I can recommend more, I'm also curious to know your thoughts on Bokura wa Minna Kawai-sou, Charlotte, Endro~!, and Yuyushiki (I had given Yuyushiki a 6, but I'm still interested in what you think of it).
Machikado Mazoku.
Also: Joshiraku, Flying Witch, Amaama to Inazuma, and Asobi Asobase.
By the way, how many anime can I recommend at once? If I can recommend more, I'm also curious to know your thoughts on Bokura wa Minna Kawai-sou, Charlotte, Endro~!, and Yuyushiki (I had given Yuyushiki a 6, but I'm still interested in what you think of it).
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i've already seen read machikado mazoku/and flying witch, will write about them in a will, also, while there is no limit to how much you can request, the more you request the more picky I get, so out of those I will watch endro and maybe asobi asobase
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Machikado Mazoku
In my humble opinion, this is probably the best magical girl anime.
Magical girl anime isn't currently on it's best foot. While animes like sailor moon and cardcaptor sakura are extremely famous and culturally important, magical girl as a genre never became that mainstream, at least not to the point we would have a third anime to name in that sentence,
Magical girl anime basically acted as combat shounen for women, combat shoujo if you will. And honestly, they were really fucking good, probably some of the best shounens ever IMO. They were also very ahead of it's time with art and didn't fall into the pittraps most shounens fell in.
Part of the essence of those magical girl anime was how over the top where they were their feminity, every scene was covered in flower, all the guys were hot, they used the powers of love and friendship, etc. All of that made magical girls feel a lot more sweet and light than shounens, where they were supposed to be raw and male, and I think machikado mazoku may be the best at translating that same energy into a modern magical girl anime
Machikazo mazoku is a magical girl slice of life/comedy where this girl wakes up and discovers she is a demon and that her family had been cursed to live with very few money each month, one of her classmates turns out to be a magical girl, whose job is to erradicate demons, then, the goal of shamiko, the protagonist is to try to defeat momo, the magical girl. However momo turns out to be really nice and like doesn't do her job as a magical girl as she refuses to kill her.
here we have all the elements that really composed old magical girl anime in a modern setting, all translated into a new genre (slice of life/comedy), and it really works, the essence is very much there, it's as fluffy, cute, and feminine (like this anime is also borderline yuri) as older anime, and it really works REALLY well, since thoe are elements that also work REALLY well in a slice of life
slice of life really benefits of all that cute fluffy stuff, since most slice of life already try to achieve something similar. You can also add small jokes subverting typical tropes like transformation scenes and again, just really works
I want to also compare machikado mazoku to madoka magica, because in my opinion, both have a similar goal in a certain sense. Both are adapting magical girls to the modern day, however, while machikado keeps the essence, madoka doesn't
madoka is supposed to subvert your typical magical girl anime and make it dark and adult and whatever, but by doing that I think it really kills that essence of magical girl
so yeah I fucking love machikado mazoku A rank (was considering S rank for a bit tho)
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Flying witch
read the manga for this one, I enjoyed, I also don't remember a lot from it
Magical witch is about this girl who moves to a more traditional and rural town, with the goal of training to become a witch, and I think it's quite good
the manga is very much a iyashikei, meaning it's meant to be really relaxing, and I think it's quite good at this. Again, magic in slice of life is very much a proven concept. I feel the cultural perception of witches have slowly switched away from the inquisition and them being bad and deadly and whatever to the lo-fi studying girl.
Magic is just fun, and people want to write about magic and fantasize about magic in non/combat scenarios, in a way there is a paralellism here to machikado mazoku. Very broadly,wWitches are the female version of a male wizard, and while wizards are almost imagined in high fantasy, action scenarios, casting fireball and the such, witches instead have evolved to mostly be present in more modern scenarios (while the towns are still rural, the actual timeframe witches story take up nowadays are mostly modern times), and for them to be mostly non/action.
So yeah, flying witch just really delivers on that modern wish of wanting to just live a slow and relaxing life casting spells, I once again, greatly enjoyed. Placed on A rank.
Next: Endro~!
In my humble opinion, this is probably the best magical girl anime.
Magical girl anime isn't currently on it's best foot. While animes like sailor moon and cardcaptor sakura are extremely famous and culturally important, magical girl as a genre never became that mainstream, at least not to the point we would have a third anime to name in that sentence,
Magical girl anime basically acted as combat shounen for women, combat shoujo if you will. And honestly, they were really fucking good, probably some of the best shounens ever IMO. They were also very ahead of it's time with art and didn't fall into the pittraps most shounens fell in.
Part of the essence of those magical girl anime was how over the top where they were their feminity, every scene was covered in flower, all the guys were hot, they used the powers of love and friendship, etc. All of that made magical girls feel a lot more sweet and light than shounens, where they were supposed to be raw and male, and I think machikado mazoku may be the best at translating that same energy into a modern magical girl anime
Machikazo mazoku is a magical girl slice of life/comedy where this girl wakes up and discovers she is a demon and that her family had been cursed to live with very few money each month, one of her classmates turns out to be a magical girl, whose job is to erradicate demons, then, the goal of shamiko, the protagonist is to try to defeat momo, the magical girl. However momo turns out to be really nice and like doesn't do her job as a magical girl as she refuses to kill her.
here we have all the elements that really composed old magical girl anime in a modern setting, all translated into a new genre (slice of life/comedy), and it really works, the essence is very much there, it's as fluffy, cute, and feminine (like this anime is also borderline yuri) as older anime, and it really works REALLY well, since thoe are elements that also work REALLY well in a slice of life
slice of life really benefits of all that cute fluffy stuff, since most slice of life already try to achieve something similar. You can also add small jokes subverting typical tropes like transformation scenes and again, just really works
I want to also compare machikado mazoku to madoka magica, because in my opinion, both have a similar goal in a certain sense. Both are adapting magical girls to the modern day, however, while machikado keeps the essence, madoka doesn't
madoka is supposed to subvert your typical magical girl anime and make it dark and adult and whatever, but by doing that I think it really kills that essence of magical girl
so yeah I fucking love machikado mazoku A rank (was considering S rank for a bit tho)
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Flying witch
read the manga for this one, I enjoyed, I also don't remember a lot from it
Magical witch is about this girl who moves to a more traditional and rural town, with the goal of training to become a witch, and I think it's quite good
the manga is very much a iyashikei, meaning it's meant to be really relaxing, and I think it's quite good at this. Again, magic in slice of life is very much a proven concept. I feel the cultural perception of witches have slowly switched away from the inquisition and them being bad and deadly and whatever to the lo-fi studying girl.
Magic is just fun, and people want to write about magic and fantasize about magic in non/combat scenarios, in a way there is a paralellism here to machikado mazoku. Very broadly,wWitches are the female version of a male wizard, and while wizards are almost imagined in high fantasy, action scenarios, casting fireball and the such, witches instead have evolved to mostly be present in more modern scenarios (while the towns are still rural, the actual timeframe witches story take up nowadays are mostly modern times), and for them to be mostly non/action.
So yeah, flying witch just really delivers on that modern wish of wanting to just live a slow and relaxing life casting spells, I once again, greatly enjoyed. Placed on A rank.
Next: Endro~!
I also think the anime is very good, but I think it's arguable that it could be considered a parody of the genre (or at least close to it). If the best magical girl anime is actually closer to a parody than to the classic genre, that would be kind of sad...Patatitta wrote:
Machikado Mazoku
In my humble opinion, this is probably the best magical girl anime.
Also, shoujo anime is by definition supposed to attract more women than men, which is not the case here. If it's not shoujo, maybe it can't be true mahou shoujo.
Topic Starter
idk, while it plays jokes with some of the tropes, I wouldn't qualfiy machikado mazoku as a parody, mainly because on it's essence is still very much just a magial girl anime and it's proud of that. And again, while it may not be shoujo in terms of demographic (given that slice of life anime as far as I know is not really gendered), it's still pretty much the opposite of a combat shounen, with pure magical girl anime it was that way beacuse of what I said, it being cutesy and femenine as opposed to raw and masculine, but with machikado mazoku specially, since it's quite literally the opposite of people beating each other up, being, people befriending each other up
I think in a world where shounen have become this mainstream, and honestly have sometimes a majority female audiences in specific cases (like with jujutsu kaisen), I think shoujos evolving into a more slice of life path (let's remember things like natsume book of friends are shoujo) is the logical outcome
I think in a world where shounen have become this mainstream, and honestly have sometimes a majority female audiences in specific cases (like with jujutsu kaisen), I think shoujos evolving into a more slice of life path (let's remember things like natsume book of friends are shoujo) is the logical outcome
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Endro~!
While CGDCT are a genre you put on to relax, not having the most complex stories or making you feel negative emotions, that doesn't mean you should expect the viewer to not have any sort of critical eye.
Endro starts with a group of adventurers defeating the evil demon king, for credits to roll, and for them to wake up in bed and start going to school. This is a good setup, what happens in the happily ever after, what happens to them after everything is done for, in fact, this is the setup frieren would do (tho translated into a different genre and with different age characters) and would be praised for a lot (even if frieren doesn't even really scratch the surface of that setup either).
The main problem I have with this anime is that the plot is complete nosense, as this episode 1 will be basically decanonized by the end. The first couple episodes goes great, technically the hero is no longer the hero because her being a hero would require there being a demon king, except the loli teacher with evil demon wings is in fact the reborn demon lord. Then you have your standard plot of the demon king tris to get the hero to fail in all sort of ways only for that to backfire
again, up to episode 5 or so?, it's good, problem is that they start making a lot of contradictions in the plot, not spoiler tagging but, oh it turns out they traveled through time and they also lost some of their memories and also [...], it's just a very, very contrived story and solutions to problems the anime didn't have, which directly contradicts which comes after and before it. Th eanime ending is also extremely bad, it feels rushed from a narrative standpoint, like the writers saw they were at the penultimate episode and said "shit we need to end this somehow" which just caused a final episode where the plot becomes even more contrived and contradictory
there is also the part where the princess has a crush on the protagonist and kidnaps herself beacuse she gets sexual pleasure from watching the hero be heroic, which is honestly like 2 steps aways from the plot of ichi the killer, and if your cgdct is that close to ichi the killer you may have to rethink your decisions in life. To this the princess apologizes and everyone goes "haha no problem!" and is never mentioned again for the remaining of the anime despite being a honestly kinda unforgivable and mentally derranged thing to do
it's just, CGDCT should help you relax, to get into that state of mind, it's true that while you're there, you have a greater suspension of disbelief, but that doesn't imply that the anime should make decisions as if you have no critical vision
the later half of the anime also features a lot of flashbacks and a lot of reused content, there was a point where I didn't know if I was watching a recap episode or not
the rest of the anime is pretty standard, nothing much I really want to talk about, so yeah, pretty terrible anime, D rank.
next: Workshop of fun
While CGDCT are a genre you put on to relax, not having the most complex stories or making you feel negative emotions, that doesn't mean you should expect the viewer to not have any sort of critical eye.
Endro starts with a group of adventurers defeating the evil demon king, for credits to roll, and for them to wake up in bed and start going to school. This is a good setup, what happens in the happily ever after, what happens to them after everything is done for, in fact, this is the setup frieren would do (tho translated into a different genre and with different age characters) and would be praised for a lot (even if frieren doesn't even really scratch the surface of that setup either).
The main problem I have with this anime is that the plot is complete nosense, as this episode 1 will be basically decanonized by the end. The first couple episodes goes great, technically the hero is no longer the hero because her being a hero would require there being a demon king, except the loli teacher with evil demon wings is in fact the reborn demon lord. Then you have your standard plot of the demon king tris to get the hero to fail in all sort of ways only for that to backfire
again, up to episode 5 or so?, it's good, problem is that they start making a lot of contradictions in the plot, not spoiler tagging but, oh it turns out they traveled through time and they also lost some of their memories and also [...], it's just a very, very contrived story and solutions to problems the anime didn't have, which directly contradicts which comes after and before it. Th eanime ending is also extremely bad, it feels rushed from a narrative standpoint, like the writers saw they were at the penultimate episode and said "shit we need to end this somehow" which just caused a final episode where the plot becomes even more contrived and contradictory
there is also the part where the princess has a crush on the protagonist and kidnaps herself beacuse she gets sexual pleasure from watching the hero be heroic, which is honestly like 2 steps aways from the plot of ichi the killer, and if your cgdct is that close to ichi the killer you may have to rethink your decisions in life. To this the princess apologizes and everyone goes "haha no problem!" and is never mentioned again for the remaining of the anime despite being a honestly kinda unforgivable and mentally derranged thing to do
it's just, CGDCT should help you relax, to get into that state of mind, it's true that while you're there, you have a greater suspension of disbelief, but that doesn't imply that the anime should make decisions as if you have no critical vision
the later half of the anime also features a lot of flashbacks and a lot of reused content, there was a point where I didn't know if I was watching a recap episode or not
the rest of the anime is pretty standard, nothing much I really want to talk about, so yeah, pretty terrible anime, D rank.
next: Workshop of fun
Maybe I don't have that critical eye... Maybe that's why my average rating on MAL is 8.67...Patatitta wrote:
it's just, CGDCT should help you relax, to get into that state of mind, it's true that while you're there, you have a greater suspension of disbelief, but that doesn't imply that the anime should make decisions as if you have no critical vision
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nah if you enjoyed it, that's better for you, I just think it's bad, but if you can find enjoyement on them, I don't think you should try to change that
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already watched it, will talk about it laterCLICKMACHINE wrote:
Do It Yourself
Pretty nice visuals. I liked it surprisingly...
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Asobi Asobase
While I didn't think it was bad, like, there weren't any things I believed were genuine problems like with the last anime, I for sure didn't like it.
Asobi Asobase is a comedy anime following three high school students, each one with a very marked personalities, pretty standard stuff. The main difference of this anime with other of the same genres, and the reason why I disliked this anime, is the type of comedy they employ.
Asobi Asobase mainly employs gross humour, pee and poop jokes, extremely non-moe faces, the teacher being a weird pervert with unusual fetishes, etc. You're meant to be repulsed by it which leads to comedy. While this is a comedy style that is fairly common (not so much in anime tho, I do remember seeing it a lot in western cartoons and some comedy movies), it's not a style I really enjoy
the actual animation was nice tho, I think it has a very unique visual style, using very bright colors, and feeling a lot like a drawing, but like a drawing you did in a a highschool notebook that you've not opened for a year so it has like very white spots where it feels nothing is drawn there, I like that
so yeah, nothing against this anime, I just don't fuck with it's comedy style. D rank.
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Do it yourself
slice of life CGDCT anime about girls doing DIY stuff (i'm actually surprised english doesn't have a better word for this rather than DIY like how the fuck DIY feels like a modern term right you did not have a word to really encompass that field of activities better?????? like we say bricolaje in spanish). The girls are moe and watching the anime is relaxing.
i've seen this anime a while ago now and honestly there isn't really much I want to say, I like the animation style, it's often very polygonal, lot of straight lines across this anime, not the first time i've seen it but I enjoy it so it's always a welcome thing. I think character design is unique and very distinctive, often having a very particular, less common but still common and societal acceptable clothing item. Also, I found I have a soft spot for characters with bandaids, which is honestly such a bizarre fashion decision but honestly whoever invented that and realized that work is a fucking genious that shit is so cute
unlike most CGDCT anime this does kind of have an end goal, which is to build a treehouse. Not very common for CGDCT anime to have a solid endpoint, but I think it works really well, the actual anime up to that is just kind of a bit of very light drama of recruiting club members and learning the skills needed, the treehouse working as a sueprproject that is the climax of what they have accomplished across the anime
it's good, I enjoyed it and I recommend it. A rank. Will update the actual tier list tomorrow if I remember because today I am tired and will be going directly to bed, good night
While I didn't think it was bad, like, there weren't any things I believed were genuine problems like with the last anime, I for sure didn't like it.
Asobi Asobase is a comedy anime following three high school students, each one with a very marked personalities, pretty standard stuff. The main difference of this anime with other of the same genres, and the reason why I disliked this anime, is the type of comedy they employ.
Asobi Asobase mainly employs gross humour, pee and poop jokes, extremely non-moe faces, the teacher being a weird pervert with unusual fetishes, etc. You're meant to be repulsed by it which leads to comedy. While this is a comedy style that is fairly common (not so much in anime tho, I do remember seeing it a lot in western cartoons and some comedy movies), it's not a style I really enjoy
the actual animation was nice tho, I think it has a very unique visual style, using very bright colors, and feeling a lot like a drawing, but like a drawing you did in a a highschool notebook that you've not opened for a year so it has like very white spots where it feels nothing is drawn there, I like that
so yeah, nothing against this anime, I just don't fuck with it's comedy style. D rank.
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Do it yourself
slice of life CGDCT anime about girls doing DIY stuff (i'm actually surprised english doesn't have a better word for this rather than DIY like how the fuck DIY feels like a modern term right you did not have a word to really encompass that field of activities better?????? like we say bricolaje in spanish). The girls are moe and watching the anime is relaxing.
i've seen this anime a while ago now and honestly there isn't really much I want to say, I like the animation style, it's often very polygonal, lot of straight lines across this anime, not the first time i've seen it but I enjoy it so it's always a welcome thing. I think character design is unique and very distinctive, often having a very particular, less common but still common and societal acceptable clothing item. Also, I found I have a soft spot for characters with bandaids, which is honestly such a bizarre fashion decision but honestly whoever invented that and realized that work is a fucking genious that shit is so cute
unlike most CGDCT anime this does kind of have an end goal, which is to build a treehouse. Not very common for CGDCT anime to have a solid endpoint, but I think it works really well, the actual anime up to that is just kind of a bit of very light drama of recruiting club members and learning the skills needed, the treehouse working as a sueprproject that is the climax of what they have accomplished across the anime
it's good, I enjoyed it and I recommend it. A rank. Will update the actual tier list tomorrow if I remember because today I am tired and will be going directly to bed, good night
okay i'm back, i might've found a game that you might be able to analyze - saihate station
or as an alternative vivid/stasis ? don't worry about locked chapters, they're too easy to access if you mess with the accessibility settings to get more points. but i just want someone to hear out how uninteresting the story and arg is at least to me. i can't understand shit lmao
or as an alternative vivid/stasis ? don't worry about locked chapters, they're too easy to access if you mess with the accessibility settings to get more points. but i just want someone to hear out how uninteresting the story and arg is at least to me. i can't understand shit lmao
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accepting both, I normally don't like arg but I may just try to paly the game without fucking too much with that aspect if I can avoid it, tho I may drop itfrothyyy wrote:
okay i'm back, i might've found a game that you might be able to analyze - saihate station
or as an alternative vivid/stasis ? don't worry about locked chapters, they're too easy to access if you mess with the accessibility settings to get more points. but i just want someone to hear out how uninteresting the story and arg is at least to me. i can't understand shit lmao
Topic Starter
Saihate Station
didn't play the DLC because it wasn't available on a language I could understand
short horror/toxic yaoi game with a point and click adventure gameplay loop. The game doesn't do anything that is that new or that shocking, everything it does i've seen it before, however, that doesn't make the game bad by any means, if anything, I tihnk it's a really polished game, lot's of small detail that I really enjoyed.
I think the story is tight, the paranormal/horror feel is a good way to tie into the psychological story they were trying to tell, the dialogue is well written and I really appreciate placing stopping points in some of the sentences so the text would take a few fractions of a second longer to scroll from that point giving part of the dialogue more emphasis. Some set scenes, like the optional mirror scenes, while nothing revolutionary (been a tried and tested thing in indie games since undertale did the "despite everything, it's still you", tho, omori REALLY popularized this set piece, having a mirror that after a specific point of the game had a small % chance of jumpscaring you which is honestly so sick because not everyone will see that scare), I think the mirror scene really serves a purpouse and is well done, it's not copying for the sake of copying, not because they liked the visuals and the feel and tried to emulate it without understanding the actual depth of it, the dev clearly understood what they were doing and they told their story in a really effective manner
now, the actual story, i'm more conflicted on. It's again, something I know a lot of people enjoy but something that I never quite understood the appeal. As I said on the beginning, this is a toxic yaoi game, there are two main characters, and there is a lot of romantic subtext between them which is basically confiremd on one of the endings. Spoiler warning, tho I think you may figure out reading reviews and the synopsis and screenshots of the game. turns out, your coworker is mentally derranged, essentially a yandere. And this is the part that I have conflicted feelings on. While this is a horror game, a lot of the scenes feel like they're meant to be arousing,
Again, not a new concept, yanderes have existed since forever, and some people have always been lusting over them, but recently it became more popular. This popularity surge I feel actually came from outside that otaku internet space, but instead, with the popularization of dark romance novels. This type of novel are mainly books targetted torwards women, which follow a female protagonist whose life somehow get intermingled with a male who is usually in some sort of position of power torwards her, for example a common trope is a mafia boss that kidnapped the protagonist. After that a relationship starts to form. These relationships are unethical, toxic, horrible to be in IRL, often consisting of coaxing or rape, but you know, fantasies like that are something that a lot of people find erotic.
This also happened in online LGBTQ+ spaces with toxic yuri and toxic yaoi, which are very similar, just very, as the name implies, toxic relationships, that would be hell to be in IRL, but are arousing.
The problem is that in the current era, sexuality is very much a taboo subject, it's considered a more valid reason to say "I enjoy this game for the story" rather than "I find this game to be very arousing", which I feel taints a bit of internet discussion, like, I'm sorry but you're NOT playing nikke for the story. Not saying that these people are lying, it's very easy to gaslight yourself to believe other elements of the game are peak just becuase you at a personal level don't want to admit it's arousing.
All of this IMO kinda muddies the message of the game, it's not explicitely erotic, but instead all covered in subtext and mashed in with what would be a typically artsy videogame. I've completed the game but I honestly struggle to find a takeaway from it. In normal videogame logic, the ending that is hardest to get is the true ending, and in this case, the true ending would be the one where you decide to stay with your newly found mentally insane dominant boyfriend. I didn't get that ending, and while I enjoyed going through the motions of the game, some cscenes got me to really feel stuff, I don't know if the story really meant anything to me.
It's a very well done game, undeniably so, I just don't know if this is exactly for me, C rank.
Next: vivid stasis
didn't play the DLC because it wasn't available on a language I could understand
short horror/toxic yaoi game with a point and click adventure gameplay loop. The game doesn't do anything that is that new or that shocking, everything it does i've seen it before, however, that doesn't make the game bad by any means, if anything, I tihnk it's a really polished game, lot's of small detail that I really enjoyed.
I think the story is tight, the paranormal/horror feel is a good way to tie into the psychological story they were trying to tell, the dialogue is well written and I really appreciate placing stopping points in some of the sentences so the text would take a few fractions of a second longer to scroll from that point giving part of the dialogue more emphasis. Some set scenes, like the optional mirror scenes, while nothing revolutionary (been a tried and tested thing in indie games since undertale did the "despite everything, it's still you", tho, omori REALLY popularized this set piece, having a mirror that after a specific point of the game had a small % chance of jumpscaring you which is honestly so sick because not everyone will see that scare), I think the mirror scene really serves a purpouse and is well done, it's not copying for the sake of copying, not because they liked the visuals and the feel and tried to emulate it without understanding the actual depth of it, the dev clearly understood what they were doing and they told their story in a really effective manner
now, the actual story, i'm more conflicted on. It's again, something I know a lot of people enjoy but something that I never quite understood the appeal. As I said on the beginning, this is a toxic yaoi game, there are two main characters, and there is a lot of romantic subtext between them which is basically confiremd on one of the endings. Spoiler warning, tho I think you may figure out reading reviews and the synopsis and screenshots of the game. turns out, your coworker is mentally derranged, essentially a yandere. And this is the part that I have conflicted feelings on. While this is a horror game, a lot of the scenes feel like they're meant to be arousing,
Again, not a new concept, yanderes have existed since forever, and some people have always been lusting over them, but recently it became more popular. This popularity surge I feel actually came from outside that otaku internet space, but instead, with the popularization of dark romance novels. This type of novel are mainly books targetted torwards women, which follow a female protagonist whose life somehow get intermingled with a male who is usually in some sort of position of power torwards her, for example a common trope is a mafia boss that kidnapped the protagonist. After that a relationship starts to form. These relationships are unethical, toxic, horrible to be in IRL, often consisting of coaxing or rape, but you know, fantasies like that are something that a lot of people find erotic.
This also happened in online LGBTQ+ spaces with toxic yuri and toxic yaoi, which are very similar, just very, as the name implies, toxic relationships, that would be hell to be in IRL, but are arousing.
The problem is that in the current era, sexuality is very much a taboo subject, it's considered a more valid reason to say "I enjoy this game for the story" rather than "I find this game to be very arousing", which I feel taints a bit of internet discussion, like, I'm sorry but you're NOT playing nikke for the story. Not saying that these people are lying, it's very easy to gaslight yourself to believe other elements of the game are peak just becuase you at a personal level don't want to admit it's arousing.
All of this IMO kinda muddies the message of the game, it's not explicitely erotic, but instead all covered in subtext and mashed in with what would be a typically artsy videogame. I've completed the game but I honestly struggle to find a takeaway from it. In normal videogame logic, the ending that is hardest to get is the true ending, and in this case, the true ending would be the one where you decide to stay with your newly found mentally insane dominant boyfriend. I didn't get that ending, and while I enjoyed going through the motions of the game, some cscenes got me to really feel stuff, I don't know if the story really meant anything to me.
It's a very well done game, undeniably so, I just don't know if this is exactly for me, C rank.
Next: vivid stasis
haha i'm glad you found some parts interesting, admittedly i got attracted to the game because i'm one of the people who unironically likes the yandere genre. don't get me wrong, it's cool to imagine but if i were to handle it irl it would definitely put a toll on me. thats asking for a death wish lol. either way i'm glad by how honest you were on your personal thoughts of the gamePatatitta wrote:
Saihate Stationdidn't play the DLC because it wasn't available on a language I could understand
short horror/toxic yaoi game with a point and click adventure gameplay loop. The game doesn't do anything that is that new or that shocking, everything it does i've seen it before, however, that doesn't make the game bad by any means, if anything, I tihnk it's a really polished game, lot's of small detail that I really enjoyed.
I think the story is tight, the paranormal/horror feel is a good way to tie into the psychological story they were trying to tell, the dialogue is well written and I really appreciate placing stopping points in some of the sentences so the text would take a few fractions of a second longer to scroll from that point giving part of the dialogue more emphasis. Some set scenes, like the optional mirror scenes, while nothing revolutionary (been a tried and tested thing in indie games since undertale did the "despite everything, it's still you", tho, omori REALLY popularized this set piece, having a mirror that after a specific point of the game had a small % chance of jumpscaring you which is honestly so sick because not everyone will see that scare), I think the mirror scene really serves a purpouse and is well done, it's not copying for the sake of copying, not because they liked the visuals and the feel and tried to emulate it without understanding the actual depth of it, the dev clearly understood what they were doing and they told their story in a really effective manner
now, the actual story, i'm more conflicted on. It's again, something I know a lot of people enjoy but something that I never quite understood the appeal. As I said on the beginning, this is a toxic yaoi game, there are two main characters, and there is a lot of romantic subtext between them which is basically confiremd on one of the endings. Spoiler warning, tho I think you may figure out reading reviews and the synopsis and screenshots of the game. turns out, your coworker is mentally derranged, essentially a yandere. And this is the part that I have conflicted feelings on. While this is a horror game, a lot of the scenes feel like they're meant to be arousing,
Again, not a new concept, yanderes have existed since forever, and some people have always been lusting over them, but recently it became more popular. This popularity surge I feel actually came from outside that otaku internet space, but instead, with the popularization of dark romance novels. This type of novel are mainly books targetted torwards women, which follow a female protagonist whose life somehow get intermingled with a male who is usually in some sort of position of power torwards her, for example a common trope is a mafia boss that kidnapped the protagonist. After that a relationship starts to form. These relationships are unethical, toxic, horrible to be in IRL, often consisting of coaxing or rape, but you know, fantasies like that are something that a lot of people find erotic.
This also happened in online LGBTQ+ spaces with toxic yuri and toxic yaoi, which are very similar, just very, as the name implies, toxic relationships, that would be hell to be in IRL, but are arousing.
The problem is that in the current era, sexuality is very much a taboo subject, it's considered a more valid reason to say "I enjoy this game for the story" rather than "I find this game to be very arousing", which I feel taints a bit of internet discussion, like, I'm sorry but you're NOT playing nikke for the story. Not saying that these people are lying, it's very easy to gaslight yourself to believe other elements of the game are peak just becuase you at a personal level don't want to admit it's arousing.
All of this IMO kinda muddies the message of the game, it's not explicitely erotic, but instead all covered in subtext and mashed in with what would be a typically artsy videogame. I've completed the game but I honestly struggle to find a takeaway from it. In normal videogame logic, the ending that is hardest to get is the true ending, and in this case, the true ending would be the one where you decide to stay with your newly found mentally insane dominant boyfriend. I didn't get that ending, and while I enjoyed going through the motions of the game, some cscenes got me to really feel stuff, I don't know if the story really meant anything to me.
It's a very well done game, undeniably so, I just don't know if this is exactly for me, C rank.
also while you're at it i'm requesting you to do an analysis of azatus (literally my oc). it's just an excuse for criticism in order to improve my characters more
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reading it, what you have is just personality data, not something I can talk that much by itself. It's like worldbuilding, sure, it's a fun activity a large ammount of people seem to do, not writing a story, just pure worldbuilding, but at the same time, worldbuilding is only good or bad depending on the story it's placed in, a nonsensical world can be good in certain context, as well as a hyper realistic onefrothyyy wrote:
haha i'm glad you found some parts interesting, admittedly i got attracted to the game because i'm one of the people who unironically likes the yandere genre. don't get me wrong, it's cool to imagine but if i were to handle it irl it would definitely put a toll on me. thats asking for a death wish lol. either way i'm glad by how honest you were on your personal thoughts of the gamePatatitta wrote:
Saihate Stationdidn't play the DLC because it wasn't available on a language I could understand
short horror/toxic yaoi game with a point and click adventure gameplay loop. The game doesn't do anything that is that new or that shocking, everything it does i've seen it before, however, that doesn't make the game bad by any means, if anything, I tihnk it's a really polished game, lot's of small detail that I really enjoyed.
I think the story is tight, the paranormal/horror feel is a good way to tie into the psychological story they were trying to tell, the dialogue is well written and I really appreciate placing stopping points in some of the sentences so the text would take a few fractions of a second longer to scroll from that point giving part of the dialogue more emphasis. Some set scenes, like the optional mirror scenes, while nothing revolutionary (been a tried and tested thing in indie games since undertale did the "despite everything, it's still you", tho, omori REALLY popularized this set piece, having a mirror that after a specific point of the game had a small % chance of jumpscaring you which is honestly so sick because not everyone will see that scare), I think the mirror scene really serves a purpouse and is well done, it's not copying for the sake of copying, not because they liked the visuals and the feel and tried to emulate it without understanding the actual depth of it, the dev clearly understood what they were doing and they told their story in a really effective manner
now, the actual story, i'm more conflicted on. It's again, something I know a lot of people enjoy but something that I never quite understood the appeal. As I said on the beginning, this is a toxic yaoi game, there are two main characters, and there is a lot of romantic subtext between them which is basically confiremd on one of the endings. Spoiler warning, tho I think you may figure out reading reviews and the synopsis and screenshots of the game. turns out, your coworker is mentally derranged, essentially a yandere. And this is the part that I have conflicted feelings on. While this is a horror game, a lot of the scenes feel like they're meant to be arousing,
Again, not a new concept, yanderes have existed since forever, and some people have always been lusting over them, but recently it became more popular. This popularity surge I feel actually came from outside that otaku internet space, but instead, with the popularization of dark romance novels. This type of novel are mainly books targetted torwards women, which follow a female protagonist whose life somehow get intermingled with a male who is usually in some sort of position of power torwards her, for example a common trope is a mafia boss that kidnapped the protagonist. After that a relationship starts to form. These relationships are unethical, toxic, horrible to be in IRL, often consisting of coaxing or rape, but you know, fantasies like that are something that a lot of people find erotic.
This also happened in online LGBTQ+ spaces with toxic yuri and toxic yaoi, which are very similar, just very, as the name implies, toxic relationships, that would be hell to be in IRL, but are arousing.
The problem is that in the current era, sexuality is very much a taboo subject, it's considered a more valid reason to say "I enjoy this game for the story" rather than "I find this game to be very arousing", which I feel taints a bit of internet discussion, like, I'm sorry but you're NOT playing nikke for the story. Not saying that these people are lying, it's very easy to gaslight yourself to believe other elements of the game are peak just becuase you at a personal level don't want to admit it's arousing.
All of this IMO kinda muddies the message of the game, it's not explicitely erotic, but instead all covered in subtext and mashed in with what would be a typically artsy videogame. I've completed the game but I honestly struggle to find a takeaway from it. In normal videogame logic, the ending that is hardest to get is the true ending, and in this case, the true ending would be the one where you decide to stay with your newly found mentally insane dominant boyfriend. I didn't get that ending, and while I enjoyed going through the motions of the game, some cscenes got me to really feel stuff, I don't know if the story really meant anything to me.
It's a very well done game, undeniably so, I just don't know if this is exactly for me, C rank.
also while you're at it i'm requesting you to do an analysis of azatus (literally my oc). it's just an excuse for criticism in order to improve my characters more
with personality data is the same thing, tho even more extreme. People can be any sort of way, writing a personality that is frankly impossible for anyone on earth to have seems way harder than the opposite, and even then, that may serve to a bigger purpouse if you write a story involving those characters. Your character is neither well written nor bad written, since charcters by themselves, devoid of context, can't be inherently well written or bad written.
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Vivid/Stasis (Dropped)
I didn't drop it because it didn't qualify the thread, it completely did, I just was having no fun with it.
Vivid/Stasis is a 4k rhythm game / visual novel with ARG style puzzles. Every element on itself seems to work, but in conjunction is just a total mess. The rhythm game segment were pretty solid, the engine was good tho I had a frame drop once, but it may have been my pc, the songs are cool tho not peak, and the charting was ok. They introduce a new mechanic called bumpers that works as a note that can be hit by pressing any key on the corresponding hand, imagine sound voltex that has those big orange notes but they're pressed by pressing either one of the two left or two right ones.
I don't think they really utilize bumpers that well from what i've played. They mainly work as a reading challenge but I think they don't pull it off in a way that feels satisfactory, from what i've played in rhythm games, there is a certain beauty to a good reading challenge, it's very satisfactory, but with vivid stasis all the charts feels very messy, sometimes you missread but you're able to singletap fast enough to where it doens't actually punish you but totally messed with the flow and feel of the play.
I will applaud that the default keybinds where pretty good, they clearly played etterna/osu, this may seem like a weird thing to point out but god so many games have included 4k segments that are controlled by arrow keys and they're just the worst to play, this actually has sdjk keybinds. The only other narrative game i've seen have good keybinds is "until then"
Now, the rhythm game elements are story elements are quite separate, you play songs to get points to unlock visual novel segments, I don't like this system. The harder the song is the more points you get, this sounds logical in paper, but I think it's a bad call. I have some experience in 4k games, i'm not exactly competitive at them, but i'm for sure better than someone who is new at it, so when I opened the game and saw I had to unlock the story, I played a "course", which is basically a dan course, I think it was level 11 or 12 and I got two S ranks and two AA, that gave me enough points to clear the ENTIRE story for that chapter.
This is a system that benefits players who are already familiar with the genre and punishes one that doesn't, which is the problem, because people who are not rhythm game fans are probably playin because of the story, while the ones that are good for the rhythm game segment, so why are you gifting the rhythm game players the story and making the story players beg for it?
Worst part was when I finished reading up to the end of the chapter, that had a ARG puzzle, I will talk a bit more about it later, but the point is, it asked me to get 500+ combo on 5 songs of the difficulty I was aiming at to unlock it, OR I could solve the puzzle already, but I would be playing the boss song at the lowest difficulty, making it less hype.
So, after I binge read the story, at the very climax of it, you say "go grind 5 random songs, whichever you want, then come back here"!, what a way to kill the momentum jesus chirst
the actual 500+ combo requirement was also pretty insane, again, I was playing on "finale" difficulty that were songs between 10 and 13 of difficulty, getting S and AA and I was not getting 500 combo, I had to play on a lower difficulty and that just made it a whole less exciting
the actual story felt very gimmicky, you are directly thrown into a mistery surrounding one character, but we've really hadn't have much character developement, so it felt hard to care, instead, the story was aiming for this ARG type mistery stuff?, like the characters find a creepy arg-ish video and they go exploring but bad things happens and etc
I've only played up to partway through chapter 2, but the actual story didn't seem to be trying to say much, it was entirerily based on the mistery, so it's not like omori that it goes "find mari!" but then the story just really develops and it's in the search that the true message of the game is found, it's nothing like that.
The actual puzzle you solve and the ones that the characters solve in the story are also separate, so it's not like you're recieving the satisfaction of solving the mistery yourself. There is nothing wrong with this approach, watching people solve a mistery is satisfying, but for the love of god, if you're going to include puzzle on the game, why not make it them the actual puzzles the characters are facing, it jus seems like such a waste.
the whole game in a way feels meaningless, it tries to do so much but nothing really combines well, the story is this ARG type stuff surrounding characters you don't care about, the rhythm game is good but why would you play this over osu or etterna.
Now, the actual ARG puzzles, they're bad. They feel like they're there just because the dev thinks ARGs are cool, but it's just, it being a ARG doesn't contribute anything to the game. When games implement ARG stuff, think of off or inscription, they do it for ambience, it's a way of breaking the 4th wall, in off it works to make the game feel even more bizarre and in inscryption to make it feel creepy, but in here, I don't know what they were trying to accomplish, felt they watched video youtube essays and said "let's copy that!"
they didn't feel super amazing to solve either, the problem with ARG is that by breaking any boundaries it opens up the fan of possibilities A LOT. Let's put a famous game, portal 2, you got the chamber and the portal gun, you know exactly what are the tools you've got to work with and where to look, with games like off and inscryption, these ARG puzzles are never very complex and have very clear directions to where to look. It's less a difficult challenge and more poking at you and breaking the 4th wall
but here, you're just opening a website for the user and expecting them to solve it, bitch it could be ANYTHING, you no longer have a portal gun and a chamber, you have your entire computer to work with. Maybe it's the html code?, maybe it does something at a certain hour of the day?, maybe it's the url itself?, just play around until you find a solution that works!
thankfully the first episode chapter that was the one that I found wasn't very difficult, but yeah I can imagine it being a problem in the future as I think the philosophy is quite bad.
Also, pet peeve of mine, the vn segments show the actual hour ingame, but that clock doesn't move. I read half a chapter once and it apparently all took place inside a single minute which must be a oversight by the dev.
Also, the text position seemed bugged, a lot of the time it felt way too close at the bottom of the screen and some text overlapped with each other
So yeah, it just feels pointless, D rank, queue empty.
I didn't drop it because it didn't qualify the thread, it completely did, I just was having no fun with it.
Vivid/Stasis is a 4k rhythm game / visual novel with ARG style puzzles. Every element on itself seems to work, but in conjunction is just a total mess. The rhythm game segment were pretty solid, the engine was good tho I had a frame drop once, but it may have been my pc, the songs are cool tho not peak, and the charting was ok. They introduce a new mechanic called bumpers that works as a note that can be hit by pressing any key on the corresponding hand, imagine sound voltex that has those big orange notes but they're pressed by pressing either one of the two left or two right ones.
I don't think they really utilize bumpers that well from what i've played. They mainly work as a reading challenge but I think they don't pull it off in a way that feels satisfactory, from what i've played in rhythm games, there is a certain beauty to a good reading challenge, it's very satisfactory, but with vivid stasis all the charts feels very messy, sometimes you missread but you're able to singletap fast enough to where it doens't actually punish you but totally messed with the flow and feel of the play.
I will applaud that the default keybinds where pretty good, they clearly played etterna/osu, this may seem like a weird thing to point out but god so many games have included 4k segments that are controlled by arrow keys and they're just the worst to play, this actually has sdjk keybinds. The only other narrative game i've seen have good keybinds is "until then"
Now, the rhythm game elements are story elements are quite separate, you play songs to get points to unlock visual novel segments, I don't like this system. The harder the song is the more points you get, this sounds logical in paper, but I think it's a bad call. I have some experience in 4k games, i'm not exactly competitive at them, but i'm for sure better than someone who is new at it, so when I opened the game and saw I had to unlock the story, I played a "course", which is basically a dan course, I think it was level 11 or 12 and I got two S ranks and two AA, that gave me enough points to clear the ENTIRE story for that chapter.
This is a system that benefits players who are already familiar with the genre and punishes one that doesn't, which is the problem, because people who are not rhythm game fans are probably playin because of the story, while the ones that are good for the rhythm game segment, so why are you gifting the rhythm game players the story and making the story players beg for it?
Worst part was when I finished reading up to the end of the chapter, that had a ARG puzzle, I will talk a bit more about it later, but the point is, it asked me to get 500+ combo on 5 songs of the difficulty I was aiming at to unlock it, OR I could solve the puzzle already, but I would be playing the boss song at the lowest difficulty, making it less hype.
So, after I binge read the story, at the very climax of it, you say "go grind 5 random songs, whichever you want, then come back here"!, what a way to kill the momentum jesus chirst
the actual 500+ combo requirement was also pretty insane, again, I was playing on "finale" difficulty that were songs between 10 and 13 of difficulty, getting S and AA and I was not getting 500 combo, I had to play on a lower difficulty and that just made it a whole less exciting
the actual story felt very gimmicky, you are directly thrown into a mistery surrounding one character, but we've really hadn't have much character developement, so it felt hard to care, instead, the story was aiming for this ARG type mistery stuff?, like the characters find a creepy arg-ish video and they go exploring but bad things happens and etc
I've only played up to partway through chapter 2, but the actual story didn't seem to be trying to say much, it was entirerily based on the mistery, so it's not like omori that it goes "find mari!" but then the story just really develops and it's in the search that the true message of the game is found, it's nothing like that.
The actual puzzle you solve and the ones that the characters solve in the story are also separate, so it's not like you're recieving the satisfaction of solving the mistery yourself. There is nothing wrong with this approach, watching people solve a mistery is satisfying, but for the love of god, if you're going to include puzzle on the game, why not make it them the actual puzzles the characters are facing, it jus seems like such a waste.
the whole game in a way feels meaningless, it tries to do so much but nothing really combines well, the story is this ARG type stuff surrounding characters you don't care about, the rhythm game is good but why would you play this over osu or etterna.
Now, the actual ARG puzzles, they're bad. They feel like they're there just because the dev thinks ARGs are cool, but it's just, it being a ARG doesn't contribute anything to the game. When games implement ARG stuff, think of off or inscription, they do it for ambience, it's a way of breaking the 4th wall, in off it works to make the game feel even more bizarre and in inscryption to make it feel creepy, but in here, I don't know what they were trying to accomplish, felt they watched video youtube essays and said "let's copy that!"
they didn't feel super amazing to solve either, the problem with ARG is that by breaking any boundaries it opens up the fan of possibilities A LOT. Let's put a famous game, portal 2, you got the chamber and the portal gun, you know exactly what are the tools you've got to work with and where to look, with games like off and inscryption, these ARG puzzles are never very complex and have very clear directions to where to look. It's less a difficult challenge and more poking at you and breaking the 4th wall
but here, you're just opening a website for the user and expecting them to solve it, bitch it could be ANYTHING, you no longer have a portal gun and a chamber, you have your entire computer to work with. Maybe it's the html code?, maybe it does something at a certain hour of the day?, maybe it's the url itself?, just play around until you find a solution that works!
thankfully the first episode chapter that was the one that I found wasn't very difficult, but yeah I can imagine it being a problem in the future as I think the philosophy is quite bad.
Also, pet peeve of mine, the vn segments show the actual hour ingame, but that clock doesn't move. I read half a chapter once and it apparently all took place inside a single minute which must be a oversight by the dev.
Also, the text position seemed bugged, a lot of the time it felt way too close at the bottom of the screen and some text overlapped with each other
So yeah, it just feels pointless, D rank, queue empty.
i knew something was wrong with the game beforehand, and like you said i just play it for the levels and stuff. the whole story never engaged me on a personal level which sucks i guess because people are sugarcoating it so much on steam reviews. i wish i could understand them
on another note, i haven't actually seen you analyze mother 3, can you do that? it's one of my favorite games actually
on another note, i haven't actually seen you analyze mother 3, can you do that? it's one of my favorite games actually
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already played it sooo
Mother 3:
I frankly don't have that much to say about mother 3? which may seem surprising given how beloved of a game it is and how it inspired many of my favourites
I think in terms of gameplay it's less annoying than earthbound (mother 2), it adds a new timing mechanic to the hit, which I never was able to nail but may have also been because emulator input delay, I do not know.
I think the biggest appeal and frankly part of the popularity of mother 3 in the modern day is that it, in combination with earthboumd, were the first real mainstream RPG to really try to tell a serious story. Videogames as an artform were not really that accepted back in the day, so seeing a more adult game, tackling political issues and coming from nintendo, yeah, it absolutely shocked everyone.
The story is very much about capitalism, initially the town the protagonist lives in actually doens't really have currency, and then the pigmasks come, this technologically superior faction to implement currency and a capitalist system promising the citizens the whole entire world, and actively getting rid of the ones that oppose it. When the actually not politically motivated protagonist begins their fight against the pigmasks, he kinda just discovers the truth of the organization and what it does for people
I think the visuals in mother 3 are interesting, because frankly, they're not very different than the other rpgs being pushed at around the same time, which kinda worked in that favour of subverting your expectations by actually having a good plot
the 4th wall stuff was also cool, it doesn't do anything crazy with it, mainly for jokes, but it's unexpected and fun.
it's just a very artsy game at a time where it wasn't common, in my personal opinion we've done better games since then, but yeah, it's just very historically important. It's a B rank for me just due to personal preference, but yeah, no hate against it, really well done videogame and a important one at that.
Mother 3:
I frankly don't have that much to say about mother 3? which may seem surprising given how beloved of a game it is and how it inspired many of my favourites
I think in terms of gameplay it's less annoying than earthbound (mother 2), it adds a new timing mechanic to the hit, which I never was able to nail but may have also been because emulator input delay, I do not know.
I think the biggest appeal and frankly part of the popularity of mother 3 in the modern day is that it, in combination with earthboumd, were the first real mainstream RPG to really try to tell a serious story. Videogames as an artform were not really that accepted back in the day, so seeing a more adult game, tackling political issues and coming from nintendo, yeah, it absolutely shocked everyone.
The story is very much about capitalism, initially the town the protagonist lives in actually doens't really have currency, and then the pigmasks come, this technologically superior faction to implement currency and a capitalist system promising the citizens the whole entire world, and actively getting rid of the ones that oppose it. When the actually not politically motivated protagonist begins their fight against the pigmasks, he kinda just discovers the truth of the organization and what it does for people
I think the visuals in mother 3 are interesting, because frankly, they're not very different than the other rpgs being pushed at around the same time, which kinda worked in that favour of subverting your expectations by actually having a good plot
the 4th wall stuff was also cool, it doesn't do anything crazy with it, mainly for jokes, but it's unexpected and fun.
it's just a very artsy game at a time where it wasn't common, in my personal opinion we've done better games since then, but yeah, it's just very historically important. It's a B rank for me just due to personal preference, but yeah, no hate against it, really well done videogame and a important one at that.
Why is Deltarune on here twice?
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once is up to chapter 2, one is up to chapter 4, may consider removing the second one thonpc_BeaniCraft wrote:
Why is Deltarune on here twice?
probably a product of rhythm games typically not having good storyfrothyyy wrote:
i knew something was wrong with the game beforehand, and like you said i just play it for the levels and stuff. the whole story never engaged me on a personal level which sucks i guess because people are sugarcoating it so much on steam reviews. i wish i could understand them
on another note, i haven't actually seen you analyze mother 3, can you do that? it's one of my favorite games actually
play fnaf world
i literally just redownloaded the game and am currently replaying it, sehr guht rpg game (this is also why my avatar is now chica lol)
i literally just redownloaded the game and am currently replaying it, sehr guht rpg game (this is also why my avatar is now chica lol)
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yes, i've read jojos up to part 7CLICKMACHINE wrote:
Try Oyacocco.
Unrelated note have you watched/read jojo?
deniedsametdze wrote:
play fnaf world
i literally just redownloaded the game and am currently replaying it, sehr guht rpg game (this is also why my avatar is now chica lol)
Play the whole Command & Conquer Red Alert franchise.
Funni games. Cheap too. I paid like 3 bucks on Steam for all games + other C&C games.
Funni games. Cheap too. I paid like 3 bucks on Steam for all games + other C&C games.
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played red alert 1 and 2, must I play 3?Tad Fibonacci wrote:
Play the whole Command & Conquer Red Alert franchise.
Funni games. Cheap too. I paid like 3 bucks on Steam for all games + other C&C games.
You could if you want to.Patatitta wrote:
played red alert 1 and 2, must I play 3?Tad Fibonacci wrote:
Play the whole Command & Conquer Red Alert franchise.
Funni games. Cheap too. I paid like 3 bucks on Steam for all games + other C&C games.
Not as good as RA2 but it's a fun game still. The cinematics are funny af too.
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I think I will not, these are not type of games I cover anyways, but i'm making an exception beacuse it's an RTS and I love RTSTad Fibonacci wrote:
You could if you want to.Patatitta wrote:
played red alert 1 and 2, must I play 3?Tad Fibonacci wrote:
Play the whole Command & Conquer Red Alert franchise.
Funni games. Cheap too. I paid like 3 bucks on Steam for all games + other C&C games.
Not as good as RA2 but it's a fun game still. The cinematics are funny af too.
Command and Conquer red alert 1 and 2
banger games
Command and conquer red alert is a world war 2 themed RTS, released at a time where this genre was still popular, and it became one of the biggest ones too. Like there were a lot of RTS at the time, all of them had a different setting, you had warcraft for fantasy, starcraft for sci fi, age of empires for historical, and command and conquer for military.
The actual story of command and conquer is whatever, it's told via full motion video cutscenes and some descriptions before starting each mission, however, this is very much not a narrative game and the story takes the sidelines, however, knowing that it was not the focus or the reason people bought the game, they did a decision that would make the games legacy last that much longer, they didn't aim to make a super epic or deep story, instead, they made it excedeengly silly.
The plot is batshit insane, with time travel, albert einstein creating superweapons, etc, but the important thing here is how the plot is delivered. Full motion video was actually more common back then than it was now, but they got real talent, and the way they deliver each line is amazing
The gameplay is very solid. There is only one resource and that is tiberium, this works in contrast to most rts that have multiple resources. Tiberium isn't a static resource, it's closer to the trees of age of empires meaning that you've got to move for the tiberium, it's not a gold mine. This makes it easier for your opponent to snipe your miners. While disrupting mining is a powerful technique in all rts, I feel in command and conquer is specially powerful.
The way production works is also different than most RTS, instead of you having to reach a x ammount of resources to then queue in a worker to start building the thing, you have a global UI that allows you to control the creation of every building and every unit. There are no worker unit in this game. This actually makes it easier for new playesr to really get the hang of the game. It's a lot easier to manage than having to learn what unit and what building does what.
Another thing that helps with lowering the barrier of entry is being able to queue buildings and units even if you don't have the resources to actually build it. This contrast with more RTS that you got to learn how to time your production to never float resources.
The combat feels more realistic than frankly most games out there, and not just talking about rts. Every unit is INSANELY powerful damage-wise, the problem is that they all have low accuracy, this makes it feel like a real war, there are also a lot of silly techniques like driving over units that actually works
so yeah great games, really enjoyed, A rank.
its not horror bro 😭😭Patatitta wrote:
deniedsametdze wrote:
play fnaf world
i literally just redownloaded the game and am currently replaying it, sehr guht rpg game (this is also why my avatar is now chica lol)
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i'm not denying it because it's horror, i'm denying it because it's fnafsametdze wrote:
its not horror bro 😭😭Patatitta wrote:
deniedsametdze wrote:
play fnaf world
i literally just redownloaded the game and am currently replaying it, sehr guht rpg game (this is also why my avatar is now chica lol)
Perfectly reasonable tbh.Patatitta wrote:
sametdze wrote:
its not horror bro 😭😭Patatitta wrote:
deniedsametdze wrote:
play fnaf world
i literally just redownloaded the game and am currently replaying it, sehr guht rpg game (this is also why my avatar is now chica lol)
i'm not denying it because it's horror, i'm denying it because it's fnaf
a wise man once said giving stuff for patatitta to review is like making a baby try new foodsPatatitta wrote:
i'm not denying it because it's horror, i'm denying it because it's fnafsametdze wrote:
its not horror bro 😭😭Patatitta wrote:
deniedsametdze wrote:
play fnaf world
i literally just redownloaded the game and am currently replaying it, sehr guht rpg game (this is also why my avatar is now chica lol)
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says the one requesting actual baby gamessametdze wrote:
a wise man once said giving stuff for patatitta to review is like making a baby try new foodsPatatitta wrote:
i'm not denying it because it's horror, i'm denying it because it's fnafsametdze wrote:
its not horror bro 😭😭Patatitta wrote:
deniedsametdze wrote:
play fnaf world
i literally just redownloaded the game and am currently replaying it, sehr guht rpg game (this is also why my avatar is now chica lol)
how is it a baby game? the only "baby" thing i can really see is the fact that's it's got this extremely bright and playful artstyle. asides the fnaf theme, it's really just a normal rpg which anyone can play. like you could literally remove the cuddly fnaf characters and replace them with wizards and sci-fi and spells and the game would still be pretty fun
and the fact you've only reviewed 301 things despite the fact this post has 2,343 replies definitely says something about you
edit: just realised that not all of these posts are people requesting. that still means pata has denied at least like,600 to 700 requests 300 to 350 requests from my guess (please keep in mind i pulled these numbers straight out of the bin as a guess)
random mathematical shit dw about this too much its just my thinking
2,344 posts, 350 requests denied, 301 requests approved
2,344 - 651 = 1693 (this tells us that there are 1,693 posts not requesting for something)
301/651 = 0.4624
0.4624 x 100
46.24% of patatitta approving a request. nvm i was wrong lol, pata actually approves some of his stuff. mb bro
and the fact you've only reviewed 301 things despite the fact this post has 2,343 replies definitely says something about you
edit: just realised that not all of these posts are people requesting. that still means pata has denied at least like,
random mathematical shit dw about this too much its just my thinking
2,344 posts, 350 requests denied, 301 requests approved
2,344 - 651 = 1693 (this tells us that there are 1,693 posts not requesting for something)
301/651 = 0.4624
0.4624 x 100
46.24% of patatitta approving a request. nvm i was wrong lol, pata actually approves some of his stuff. mb bro
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fnaf in the big 2025
It's gonna get milked for another 87 yearsYmir wrote:
fnaf in the big 2025
I thought he retiredCLICKMACHINE wrote:
It's gonna get milked for another 87 yearsYmir wrote:
fnaf in the big 2025
scott cawthon did retire, someone else is making the games nowYmir wrote:
I thought he retiredCLICKMACHINE wrote:
It's gonna get milked for another 87 yearsYmir wrote:
fnaf in the big 2025
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I tried counting how many I denied, and honestly it was a fucking mess I got lost counting it so it's around 50±20, and out of those, half where joke requests, such as every request from scyla or people quoting a post where I deny something and instantly suggesting something that is even more offensive on the reason why I denied the previous, you estimated 350. If you coun't the times i've uttered the word "denied" as a whole in the forums, not in just in this thread, and note that there are posts where i've used denied more than once for the same request, you have 84.
if you read the OP of the thread, it states in the section of blacklisted requests "-Fandom heavy content (If you need to be part of a fandom to really enjoy or understand something, don't request it)", I consider fnaf to be part of this categorization. You say that it can be stripped out of the IP and it would still work at a mechanical level, this is probably true, however, would you have played the game if it wasn't due to the fnaf IP?, if you did, would you have enjoyed it as much?, enough to warrant requesting it?
fnaf is a franchise of mascot horror games with a largelly young fanbase, the games don't tend to be exactly super complex or really that standout. You need to understand i'm not the target demographic for this type of game, i'm a human being doing this in my free time, but franchises like this I know i'm not going to enjoy them.
if you read the OP of the thread, it states in the section of blacklisted requests "-Fandom heavy content (If you need to be part of a fandom to really enjoy or understand something, don't request it)", I consider fnaf to be part of this categorization. You say that it can be stripped out of the IP and it would still work at a mechanical level, this is probably true, however, would you have played the game if it wasn't due to the fnaf IP?, if you did, would you have enjoyed it as much?, enough to warrant requesting it?
fnaf is a franchise of mascot horror games with a largelly young fanbase, the games don't tend to be exactly super complex or really that standout. You need to understand i'm not the target demographic for this type of game, i'm a human being doing this in my free time, but franchises like this I know i'm not going to enjoy them.
Fnaf 1 was fun and “revolutionary” in terms of gameplay at its time, no one knew what fnaf was, and everyone enjoyed the shit out of it
1) i wouldn't have actually ever discovered the gamePatatitta wrote:
would you have played the game if it wasn't due to the fnaf IP?, if you did, would you have enjoyed it as much?, enough to warrant requesting it?
2) i definitely would've enjoyed the game regardless if it had fnaf in it or not, me personally i really enjoyed the game for a variety of reasons (the numerous set of worlds, how you can walk into trees which send you to different areas which have different graphics and stuff, the mini-games from the halloween update, collecting characters, etc), not because holy schmoly freddy fazbear, so if it was like idk wizard and demons world i still would've requested it
while that is correct fnaf world is different to literally every other five nights game. all of the other games are survival horror where you're in a little office and robots are coming to beat you, fnaf world is a cartoony RPG where it's all fun and cute. i figured you'd like a neat rpg game like fnaf world because it's nothing like the other five nights gamesPatatitta wrote:
fnaf is a franchise of mascot horror games with a largelly young fanbase, the games don't tend to be exactly super complex or really that standout. You need to understand i'm not the target demographic for this type of game, i'm a human being doing this in my free time, but franchises like this I know i'm not going to enjoy them.
and you definitely don't need to be apart of the fnaf community to understand the game, i was like 9 or 10 playing fnaf world with barely any understanding of what it was like to spend a night at freddy's other than big scary bear bites, and i still enjoyed the game.
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I said mascot horror, not survival horror, different concepts. And again, I just don't trust fnaf at all, I know enough about it to know I don't enjoy it, I played a bit of fnaf 1 (or 2?, I can't recall), I've seen the movie, which people defended was good (it wasn't), and I know the way they deliver "story" is by being hyper cryptic and you having to learn about the lore by watching youtube video essays.
Idk, you know me, you've seen my backloggd, you've seen my past ratings, you know i'm not the demographic for this.
Idk, you know me, you've seen my backloggd, you've seen my past ratings, you know i'm not the demographic for this.
wether its mascot horror or survival horror, that still doesn't change the fact that fnaf world isn't horror at all, it's an rpg. trust me on this, it doesn't trick you and suddenly becomes horror, it stays a playful and cute rpg no matter what.Patatitta wrote:
I said mascot horror, not survival horror, different concepts.
while that's fair, i'm asking you to try something which is totally different to the usual fnaf stuff. 1 and 2 and the movie aim to be scary but fnaf world does not try to be scary. yes i know im talking like a record on repeat but cmon dude. when i have told you its different to what you're used to, showed you evidence (the trailer) that it's different to what you're used to seeing from fnaf, i still don't see why you wouldn't at least try it for a bit because its nothing like what you've seen from fnaf. i mean, you've played the games and watched the film, upon watching the fnaf world trailer, surely you would've been like "ok, this is new"Patatitta wrote:
And again, I just don't trust fnaf at all, I know enough about it to know I don't enjoy it, I played a bit of fnaf 1 (or 2?, I can't recall), I've seen the movie, which people defended was good (it wasn't)
as for story, fnaf world doesn't have anything to do with the fnaf lore. its a spinoff game the creator made to make another game like the games he used to make before he made fnaf
but if you still don't trust me or fnaf world purely because it has fnaf slapped on it, so be it. what more can i say to persuade you?
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i'm not rejecting it because it's scary, already said that, I don't consider mascot horror to be scary, I just don't like mascot horror and/or fnaf, you can't really say much to convince me
patatitta play roblox
decline if you hate your family
decline if you hate your family
rejecting fnaf world purely because it has fnaf slapped onto it (aka "oh i just dont like fnaf") is stubborn and is exactly like feeding a baby new foodsPatatitta wrote:
i'm not rejecting it because it's scary, already said that, I don't consider mascot horror to be scary, I just don't like mascot horror and/or fnaf, you can't really say much to convince me
a baby would probably think, "oh, i'm not going to eat this new food because it has green slapped onto it, i associate negative things with green food based on past experiences" the same way you think "oh, i'm not going to play this new game because it has fnaf on it, i associate negative things with fnaf based on past experiences"
but.. if the baby tries that food.. he might like it
and.. if pata tries that game.. he might like the game..
do you understand where im coming from? you can't just keep avoiding games from IPs you've had bad experiences with, especially when someone's explained that what's being requested is different and new from that IP. if this was a traditional five nights game and you said, "oh yeah, i've already played the og fnaf 1/2, not a big fan of it, denied", or maybe even your "oh, i just dont like fnaf", i probably would've been like, ok, cool, fair enough since a traditional five nights game plays similarly to og fnaf but when we're talking about an rpg which steps out of the traditional office setting, ??? you're only rejecting it because you're biased
samtedze brother real talk from one sick cunt to another sick cunt, what are you doing this isn't the hill you want to die on
k fair enough, me personally i liked the game and im kinda disappointed pata's chosen to treat it like this, but what can i do bout it other than repeat myself
It's fine if you like the game, but I can see Pata's point. The fact that it has FNAF in it in the first place is enough to turn many people off it; I think that's fair. Hard to enjoy a game if it has characters from a series you don't really enjoy.
If you enjoy it though that's great.
If you enjoy it though that's great.
I spark a lot of retarded discussions, and I can say with confidence
This wall of text right here, is mega rarted.
Pata said no, you accept and maybe suggest something else lol, his thread idea, his rules
You can’t really force him to play it can you
Anyway, I don’t know if I suggested this already
But watch O tempo e o Vento (2013) movie to become ultra macho
I don’t think you would need to see it dubbed, since it has both Spanish and Portuguese spoken on the original, dunno you decide
This wall of text right here, is mega rarted.
Pata said no, you accept and maybe suggest something else lol, his thread idea, his rules
You can’t really force him to play it can you
Anyway, I don’t know if I suggested this already
But watch O tempo e o Vento (2013) movie to become ultra macho
I don’t think you would need to see it dubbed, since it has both Spanish and Portuguese spoken on the original, dunno you decide
don't listen to a word this guy has to say by the way
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deniedYmir wrote:
patatitta play roblox
decline if you hate your family
sure, will watch with subtitles anywaysPolyspora wrote:
I spark a lot of retarded discussions, and I can say with confidence
This wall of text right here, is mega rarted.
Pata said no, you accept and maybe suggest something else lol, his thread idea, his rules
You can’t really force him to play it can you
Anyway, I don’t know if I suggested this already
But watch O tempo e o Vento (2013) movie to become ultra macho
I don’t think you would need to see it dubbed, since it has both Spanish and Portuguese spoken on the original, dunno you decide
idk man, what would be a justifiable reason to turn down a request to you?, should I play anything and everything?, would it make me a baby to just reject stuff in general?, i'm already very open with what I play, but even I got limitssametdze wrote:
rejecting fnaf world purely because it has fnaf slapped onto it (aka "oh i just dont like fnaf") is stubborn and is exactly like feeding a baby new foodsPatatitta wrote:
i'm not rejecting it because it's scary, already said that, I don't consider mascot horror to be scary, I just don't like mascot horror and/or fnaf, you can't really say much to convince me
a baby would probably think, "oh, i'm not going to eat this new food because it has green slapped onto it, i associate negative things with green food based on past experiences" the same way you think "oh, i'm not going to play this new game because it has fnaf on it, i associate negative things with fnaf based on past experiences"
but.. if the baby tries that food.. he might like it
and.. if pata tries that game.. he might like the game..
do you understand where im coming from? you can't just keep avoiding games from IPs you've had bad experiences with, especially when someone's explained that what's being requested is different and new from that IP. if this was a traditional five nights game and you said, "oh yeah, i've already played the og fnaf 1/2, not a big fan of it, denied", or maybe even your "oh, i just dont like fnaf", i probably would've been like, ok, cool, fair enough since a traditional five nights game plays similarly to og fnaf but when we're talking about an rpg which steps out of the traditional office setting, ??? you're only rejecting it because you're biased
yeah I'm telling your dog about thisPatatitta wrote:
deniedYmir wrote:
patatitta play roblox
decline if you hate your family
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@poly can you help me find the movie?, found in youtube, had to manually download the video and then add subtitles i've downloaded don't match, even when I time it to the first dialogue, they go out of sync after a while. Either the video is an extended version or the subtitles is or something. I've tried torrents but all of them are dead
Well fuck, the last time I watched it was on DVD 11 years ago lolPatatitta wrote:
@poly can you help me find the movie?, found in youtube, had to manually download the video and then add subtitles i've downloaded don't match, even when I time it to the first dialogue, they go out of sync after a while. Either the video is an extended version or the subtitles is or something. I've tried torrents but all of them are dead
I’ll take a look and return when I find something, I think Netflix Brazil has it though, I’m not sure you have an account there or an special website that torrents every movie present in Netflix
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I have but just those torrents aren't workingPolyspora wrote:
Well fuck, the last time I watched it was on DVD 11 years ago lolPatatitta wrote:
@poly can you help me find the movie?, found in youtube, had to manually download the video and then add subtitles i've downloaded don't match, even when I time it to the first dialogue, they go out of sync after a while. Either the video is an extended version or the subtitles is or something. I've tried torrents but all of them are dead
I’ll take a look and return when I find something, I think Netflix Brazil has it though, I’m not sure you have an account there or an special website that torrents every movie present in Netflix
it’s depth. not just, “i don’t like fnaf,” but something like, “the party mechanics in this game seem weird,” or “this doesn’t look like the kind of rpg i enjoy, it’s missing x, y, and z.” even surface-level takes are fine if they show you actually engaged with what i showed you. maybe the trailer didn’t give enough info, i don’t know, but i was hoping for a bit more than a quick dismissal. (and, it does seem like the trailer kinda sold, that was my fault gang)Patatitta wrote:
idk man, what would be a justifiable reason to turn down a request to you?, should I play anything and everything?, would it make me a baby to just reject stuff in general?, i'm already very open with what I play, but even I got limits
i never said “rejecting everything makes you a baby.” the analogy was about rejecting something based on surface-level assumptions, the same way a baby might refuse food just because it’s green. that said, i’ll admit ymir’s comment about not enjoying the game based on a lack of connection with the characters gave me something to think about, in a good way. it did sort of help me understand patatitta's view, even if it was a bit shallow, but it definitely steps up from "i just dont like it"
just because it’s “his thread, his rules” doesn’t mean i can’t try to persuade him. people get convinced all the time. nothing’s stopping me from saying, “hey pata, are you sure you don’t want to give this a try? it has x, y, and z, and does a, b, and c, y'know, maybe it’ll actually surprise you.”Polyspora wrote:
pata said no, you accept and maybe suggest something else lol, his thread idea, his rules
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idk man, it's a franchise I don't like, made for a demographic i'm not a part of, in a genre I don't like (mascot horror), i've heard negative reviews of the game, but I guess those are not valid reasons?
sehr guht response, this is the reason i fw the most because it has depth, proves you've engaged a bit by looking at a few reviews, i mean if i heard bad reviews about a game i probably wouldn't try to play it either so jaPatatitta wrote:
i've heard negative reviews of the game
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did you think I didn't look at the game?, that I didn't know what fnaf world is?
nah but like most of your reasons seemed to primarily be based off of past experiences with the franchise and not to do with the actual game which is why i tried to convince you by telling you more about the game
You probably wont do this one but ill give it a shot anyway
Can you try out paper lily? It has horror but I really liked the story in chapter one so far
Can you try out paper lily? It has horror but I really liked the story in chapter one so far
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if the game is not finished I may prefeer waitingRoksNRoll wrote:
You probably wont do this one but ill give it a shot anyway
Can you try out paper lily? It has horror but I really liked the story in chapter one so far
surez0z wrote:
suggestion: mario and luigi dream team
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surefrothyyy wrote:
read toilet-bound hanako-kun (manga)
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Mario & Luigi: Dream Team (Dropped)
dropped this game 6 hours in
This game is a mario a luigi game, so you alreay know how this game operates, it's a mario RPG where peahc is kidnapped and you got to rescue her. The combat is the same as every mario RPG, it's turn based but with action commands, so when you press the attack button you got to time a button press to when the attack hits so it does more damage, and also parry when you're attacked to negate/block part of the damage.
The only other mario RPG i've played is N64 paper mario, which I talked abotu in this thread, and my biggest criticism of that game is how much it wasted your time, zones were pretty empty and forced you to backtrack, combat was really easy however it took a lot of time, etc. This game is everything I disliked about that game but amplified to 11
combat is even easier than in n64 paper mario, since in most cases you can completely negate all the damage + do a counterattack that does damage. I honestly wonder what is the point of combat in this game, I mean that seriously. THe point of adding action imputs to tuirn based combat is to make it faster and more enjoyable to a broader audicence, in a game like expedition 33 getting a parry off is hype, you do the parry which is difficult and you feel good and then all the characters do this super cool animation and there are high number everyhwere and then on yoru turn you stop and think your strategy and you do it and even more super high numbers go off and your dopamine skyrockets. Doing a successful dodge in this game doens't feel hype, in many ways it's expected, if anything you get frustrated if you miss it, in addition to that all of the numbers in this game are small, but not small enough to where that is really a point of "wow that's cool" like in paper mario, so yeah, those action buttons fail to spice up turn based combat, as combat in this game is still boring as fuck.
the actual minigames in the spells are a bit more fun, however, I've neve really had any reason to use them, they don't do a lot more damage than a typical jump, they're limited in usage and they take a lot longer to use them plus it's a lot harder, it's just not worth the effort.
badges are okay, think of it as FF limit, you attack and that bar fills up and then you can do something strong, however the effects are not super exciting and I think the bar fills up too slow. One of the quirks of the badge system is that the effect comes from combining TWO badges, so you got to find the right combinations, I think that is cool, in gameplay it does nothing, but I think the extra 10 seconds it add everytime you get a badge to check all the combos and effect is cool.
mario games live and die on the gameplay, if the core gameplay is not good the game is ass, because these games have really nothing else going for them, the graphics aren't exactly unique, there is no story, it doesn't have any secondary hook.
Still, all of I told isn't even the worst part of the game for me. As I say i've played 6 hours, for context that is longer than some very respected games like oneshot take to beat, and i'm still not past the fucking TUTORIALS. The game assumes you've not played a single game in your life and also lack any critical thinking or thinking at all, it will explain everything in the most slow and obnoxious way possible.
There was a part where I got special attack and the game directed me to the info panel on that special attack, then I press the back button, which leaves me on the pause menu, where the button for special attack can be seen, and another press lets you in the game, I say, okay that's cool, game has told you where to see that info without having to directly spell it to you, and then the game goes LET'S SEE HOW TO SEE THE INFO ON SPECIAL ATTACKS, FIRST, OPEN THE MENU. So yeah, despite having already told you, it feels the need to do it once again. For context, this is like the 4th pause menu option they've introduced, and ALL of them have a tutorial where they tell you how to open the menu and click on the button.
EVERYTHING, even one time stage gimmiks have 2 minute long tutorials, as I said in the beginning the part I don't like when games waste my time, and this is just that, it's also completley impossible to skip in most circumstances so fuck you
I was getting nothing out of this experience, I had to drop it, also, if this game was called paper mario I bet people woul be A LOT more critical about this game. Placed on D rank.
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i'm on volume 6 of hanako kun, I started it two days ago, I'm enjoying it.
dropped this game 6 hours in
This game is a mario a luigi game, so you alreay know how this game operates, it's a mario RPG where peahc is kidnapped and you got to rescue her. The combat is the same as every mario RPG, it's turn based but with action commands, so when you press the attack button you got to time a button press to when the attack hits so it does more damage, and also parry when you're attacked to negate/block part of the damage.
The only other mario RPG i've played is N64 paper mario, which I talked abotu in this thread, and my biggest criticism of that game is how much it wasted your time, zones were pretty empty and forced you to backtrack, combat was really easy however it took a lot of time, etc. This game is everything I disliked about that game but amplified to 11
combat is even easier than in n64 paper mario, since in most cases you can completely negate all the damage + do a counterattack that does damage. I honestly wonder what is the point of combat in this game, I mean that seriously. THe point of adding action imputs to tuirn based combat is to make it faster and more enjoyable to a broader audicence, in a game like expedition 33 getting a parry off is hype, you do the parry which is difficult and you feel good and then all the characters do this super cool animation and there are high number everyhwere and then on yoru turn you stop and think your strategy and you do it and even more super high numbers go off and your dopamine skyrockets. Doing a successful dodge in this game doens't feel hype, in many ways it's expected, if anything you get frustrated if you miss it, in addition to that all of the numbers in this game are small, but not small enough to where that is really a point of "wow that's cool" like in paper mario, so yeah, those action buttons fail to spice up turn based combat, as combat in this game is still boring as fuck.
the actual minigames in the spells are a bit more fun, however, I've neve really had any reason to use them, they don't do a lot more damage than a typical jump, they're limited in usage and they take a lot longer to use them plus it's a lot harder, it's just not worth the effort.
badges are okay, think of it as FF limit, you attack and that bar fills up and then you can do something strong, however the effects are not super exciting and I think the bar fills up too slow. One of the quirks of the badge system is that the effect comes from combining TWO badges, so you got to find the right combinations, I think that is cool, in gameplay it does nothing, but I think the extra 10 seconds it add everytime you get a badge to check all the combos and effect is cool.
mario games live and die on the gameplay, if the core gameplay is not good the game is ass, because these games have really nothing else going for them, the graphics aren't exactly unique, there is no story, it doesn't have any secondary hook.
Still, all of I told isn't even the worst part of the game for me. As I say i've played 6 hours, for context that is longer than some very respected games like oneshot take to beat, and i'm still not past the fucking TUTORIALS. The game assumes you've not played a single game in your life and also lack any critical thinking or thinking at all, it will explain everything in the most slow and obnoxious way possible.
There was a part where I got special attack and the game directed me to the info panel on that special attack, then I press the back button, which leaves me on the pause menu, where the button for special attack can be seen, and another press lets you in the game, I say, okay that's cool, game has told you where to see that info without having to directly spell it to you, and then the game goes LET'S SEE HOW TO SEE THE INFO ON SPECIAL ATTACKS, FIRST, OPEN THE MENU. So yeah, despite having already told you, it feels the need to do it once again. For context, this is like the 4th pause menu option they've introduced, and ALL of them have a tutorial where they tell you how to open the menu and click on the button.
EVERYTHING, even one time stage gimmiks have 2 minute long tutorials, as I said in the beginning the part I don't like when games waste my time, and this is just that, it's also completley impossible to skip in most circumstances so fuck you
I was getting nothing out of this experience, I had to drop it, also, if this game was called paper mario I bet people woul be A LOT more critical about this game. Placed on D rank.
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i'm on volume 6 of hanako kun, I started it two days ago, I'm enjoying it.
rip
well i think it would be nice if you linked each media you reviewed in the op?
well i think it would be nice if you linked each media you reviewed in the op?
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wdym, I already link all of the individual analysis and each analysisz0z wrote:
rip
well i think it would be nice if you linked each media you reviewed in the op?
oh wait i'm a dumbassPatatitta wrote:
wdym, I already link all of the individual analysis and each analysisz0z wrote:
rip
well i think it would be nice if you linked each media you reviewed in the op?
i was looking at the picture and items in each tier
Patatitta wrote:
wdym, I already link all of the individual analysis and each analysisz0z wrote:
rip
well i think it would be nice if you linked each media you reviewed in the op?
High on life (game)
Yoshi's Island DS
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not narrative, deniedMangaGrumpy wrote:
Yoshi's Island DS
surehyperastro wrote:
High on life (game)
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High on life (Dropped)
I can't do this
for the record, i've not seen rick & morty, not because I don't like it, I've just never tried, this game is by the same guy behind rick & morty, which is the main VA. This game you have a gun that talks a lot (like every other character in the game) which this guy narrates. This game tries to be funny, really tries, I think it completely fails tho.
I didn't think the game was gunny, in fact, I woulf probably have completed the game if it didn't have any dialogue at all. The style of comedy this game goes for is that every 5 seonds there is a joke of some sort, told by either you gun or a random character. Having super fast comedy and punch lines isn't new or even bad, that's kinda the way slapstick movies work, the idea is that you laugh at a joke which makes you more prone to laughing to the next joke in a process tso fasat it will leave you short of breath. The main difference between high on life and airplane is that this game is apparently improv.
the jokes aren't preplaned or anything like that, apparently they just let this one dude talk over the game and that stuck, I don't think this really works in the context of a videogame, what would end up happening is that because the game wasn't really built around to facilitate the jokes, it becomes very, very, very messy. You're walking and a voiceline starts playing making a joke and then it gets cut midway through because of another voiceline starting and a lof of the jokes are just mentioning like "oh you just did that huh". It would just get INSANELY annoyingand I really didn't laugh at all.
There is no comedic timing, no setup, no smart jokes, just a LOT of really bad jokes that while may be funny conversationally with a friend they're not really at the level that you would expect from a game or a movie.
I really enjoy comedy, even in videogames, I think it's underrated and more games should try to be funny, I really enjoy games like unmetal or undertale 2 (or even regular undertale/deltarune tbh), but in those games, the jokes are actually memorable and they're tailored in a very careful way so that they hit just at the right moment.
The actual gameplay on high on life is ok, it borrows a lot of mechanics from modern doom/ultrakill, which are on paper really good. For example, you have a melee weapon that is not only strong but you gain valuables resources by killing a enemy with melee, incentivicing you to get close and personal with the enemies. Doom and Ultrakill are both fast games where this is possible, however in high on life, you have this very open environment with not much mobility and most enemies do run away from you, so like what the fuck. They just copied the mechanics but didn't understand how to make them work.
Pretty lackluster game, kinda tanked my mood, placed on how could you do this to me tier
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i'm on volume 16 of hanako kun, shouldn't be too long now
I can't do this
for the record, i've not seen rick & morty, not because I don't like it, I've just never tried, this game is by the same guy behind rick & morty, which is the main VA. This game you have a gun that talks a lot (like every other character in the game) which this guy narrates. This game tries to be funny, really tries, I think it completely fails tho.
I didn't think the game was gunny, in fact, I woulf probably have completed the game if it didn't have any dialogue at all. The style of comedy this game goes for is that every 5 seonds there is a joke of some sort, told by either you gun or a random character. Having super fast comedy and punch lines isn't new or even bad, that's kinda the way slapstick movies work, the idea is that you laugh at a joke which makes you more prone to laughing to the next joke in a process tso fasat it will leave you short of breath. The main difference between high on life and airplane is that this game is apparently improv.
the jokes aren't preplaned or anything like that, apparently they just let this one dude talk over the game and that stuck, I don't think this really works in the context of a videogame, what would end up happening is that because the game wasn't really built around to facilitate the jokes, it becomes very, very, very messy. You're walking and a voiceline starts playing making a joke and then it gets cut midway through because of another voiceline starting and a lof of the jokes are just mentioning like "oh you just did that huh". It would just get INSANELY annoyingand I really didn't laugh at all.
There is no comedic timing, no setup, no smart jokes, just a LOT of really bad jokes that while may be funny conversationally with a friend they're not really at the level that you would expect from a game or a movie.
I really enjoy comedy, even in videogames, I think it's underrated and more games should try to be funny, I really enjoy games like unmetal or undertale 2 (or even regular undertale/deltarune tbh), but in those games, the jokes are actually memorable and they're tailored in a very careful way so that they hit just at the right moment.
The actual gameplay on high on life is ok, it borrows a lot of mechanics from modern doom/ultrakill, which are on paper really good. For example, you have a melee weapon that is not only strong but you gain valuables resources by killing a enemy with melee, incentivicing you to get close and personal with the enemies. Doom and Ultrakill are both fast games where this is possible, however in high on life, you have this very open environment with not much mobility and most enemies do run away from you, so like what the fuck. They just copied the mechanics but didn't understand how to make them work.
Pretty lackluster game, kinda tanked my mood, placed on how could you do this to me tier
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i'm on volume 16 of hanako kun, shouldn't be too long now
Try "The Darkness II" game (First "The Darkness" is only for PS 3 and Xbox 360)
Also you can play in "The Wolf Among Us", this is fucking masterpiece
Also you can play in "The Wolf Among Us", this is fucking masterpiece
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sure, will play darkness 1 via emulation then darkness 2 then wolf among us.-Izuki- wrote:
Try "The Darkness II" game (First "The Darkness" is only for PS 3 and Xbox 360)
Also you can play in "The Wolf Among Us", this is fucking masterpiece
btw it has an original in the form of a comics, if you are interestedPatatitta wrote:
sure, will play darkness 1via emulation then darkness 2
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if you've read them and want to request them you also can-Izuki- wrote:
btw it has an original in the form of a comics, if you are interestedPatatitta wrote:
sure, will play darkness 1via emulation then darkness 2
actually no, I didn't read them
just heard that they are not bad
just heard that they are not bad
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just to make sure, you did play the games you requested right?-Izuki- wrote:
actually no, I didn't read them
just heard that they are not bad
Yep, I am
There is cool fight-mechanics and good plot
There is cool fight-mechanics and good plot
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okay, wanted to make sure-Izuki- wrote:
Yep, I am
There is cool fight-mechanics and good plot
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Jibaku Shounen Hanako-kun
very messy narrative-wise but the art is really solid
Hanako-kun is about this school girl who hears about these 7 misteries of the school. So yeah, just typical school rumours and legends, but, these time, they are real. One of them is about a ghost that lives in the girl's toilet, this ghost is of course hanako-kun, who befriends this girl.
The narrative is messy and borderline aimless at times, at first it just explores what the other school misteries are leading to small arcs wich are light on tone, but as the manga goes on and the author realizes that this manga is going ot last for very long the arcs gets longer and the stakes are higher and the tone darker.
The manga starts with this very typical shoujo (more like directed to females than itself falling onto the categorization and publishing category of shoujo) trope of the attractive, misterous, normally paranormal guy with a touch of danger interacting with these other characters, the smug smile that hanako-kun consistently does for the first half of the manga is proof of this. The female protagonist at the start almost does feel like a character that is inviting for you to insert yourself into the story. Doesn't help that they consistently bait and suggest romance with the mc and hanako-kun, It's a very common trope nowadays, for example look at Bakemono Yawazukushi (tho that is more fujoshibait) or annarasumanara, hell, look how down bad a lot of women are for gojo from jujutsu kaisen. I don't know if hanako-kun was the one that popularized this trope or not, but I can tell for sure it's that.
As the anga progresses and it turns more serious, it turns more into a shounen. There aren't as many jokes and it's all more serious with more fights. However, all of that romance plot at the start kinda gets frozen, both hanako kun and the MC don't really develop taht much, and the relationship between them doesn't deepen. The mana sidesteps this issue by adding new main characters that do have other romances and complex relationships between them to give the reader the satisfaction of character developement.
Personally I think this manga shouldn't have gone for as long as it has gone, they're currently at volume 24, that is A LOT, and it's just clear that the author doesn't really know where they want the story to go, I think just the foundations of this manga are too weak to really support this 20+ volume epic. I would have written an ending at like volume 10 or so myself or just evolved the relationship and having the manga from that point to explore the nature of that relationship, more akin to something like apollon.
Now, the art of hanako-kun is FANTASTIC and honestly hard-carries the manga for me. It uses very wide strokes and consistent and striking use of that black with panels that are basically on negative color which reminds me of land of the lustrous. Presented in these massive one page panels and even full spread panels. The paneling is fantastic, really acentuating the art and being quite original on it's own right.
I think one of the aspects that make the art so memorable it's because it's a unique artstyle, but despite that, it's not like reading a super avant garde niche manga where it barely looks line anime, it is very much still anime, it still maitains anime charm, but you can still see a panel and instantly know it's of hanako-kun or even the author of hanako-kun.
Reading this for me felt like reading a CLAMP manga (specifically xxxHolic+sequels and cardcaptor sakura+sequels since those are the ones i've read), the story isn't that good, but just seeing the panels and the art makes reading this worth it. Placed on B tier.
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Started the darkness, may take a while on this one since i've never played a shooter on a controller and the game is being quite difficult for me, despite that, i'm pleasantly surprised by the game so far, I think it's quite good.
very messy narrative-wise but the art is really solid
Hanako-kun is about this school girl who hears about these 7 misteries of the school. So yeah, just typical school rumours and legends, but, these time, they are real. One of them is about a ghost that lives in the girl's toilet, this ghost is of course hanako-kun, who befriends this girl.
The narrative is messy and borderline aimless at times, at first it just explores what the other school misteries are leading to small arcs wich are light on tone, but as the manga goes on and the author realizes that this manga is going ot last for very long the arcs gets longer and the stakes are higher and the tone darker.
The manga starts with this very typical shoujo (more like directed to females than itself falling onto the categorization and publishing category of shoujo) trope of the attractive, misterous, normally paranormal guy with a touch of danger interacting with these other characters, the smug smile that hanako-kun consistently does for the first half of the manga is proof of this. The female protagonist at the start almost does feel like a character that is inviting for you to insert yourself into the story. Doesn't help that they consistently bait and suggest romance with the mc and hanako-kun, It's a very common trope nowadays, for example look at Bakemono Yawazukushi (tho that is more fujoshibait) or annarasumanara, hell, look how down bad a lot of women are for gojo from jujutsu kaisen. I don't know if hanako-kun was the one that popularized this trope or not, but I can tell for sure it's that.
As the anga progresses and it turns more serious, it turns more into a shounen. There aren't as many jokes and it's all more serious with more fights. However, all of that romance plot at the start kinda gets frozen, both hanako kun and the MC don't really develop taht much, and the relationship between them doesn't deepen. The mana sidesteps this issue by adding new main characters that do have other romances and complex relationships between them to give the reader the satisfaction of character developement.
Personally I think this manga shouldn't have gone for as long as it has gone, they're currently at volume 24, that is A LOT, and it's just clear that the author doesn't really know where they want the story to go, I think just the foundations of this manga are too weak to really support this 20+ volume epic. I would have written an ending at like volume 10 or so myself or just evolved the relationship and having the manga from that point to explore the nature of that relationship, more akin to something like apollon.
Now, the art of hanako-kun is FANTASTIC and honestly hard-carries the manga for me. It uses very wide strokes and consistent and striking use of that black with panels that are basically on negative color which reminds me of land of the lustrous. Presented in these massive one page panels and even full spread panels. The paneling is fantastic, really acentuating the art and being quite original on it's own right.
I think one of the aspects that make the art so memorable it's because it's a unique artstyle, but despite that, it's not like reading a super avant garde niche manga where it barely looks line anime, it is very much still anime, it still maitains anime charm, but you can still see a panel and instantly know it's of hanako-kun or even the author of hanako-kun.
Reading this for me felt like reading a CLAMP manga (specifically xxxHolic+sequels and cardcaptor sakura+sequels since those are the ones i've read), the story isn't that good, but just seeing the panels and the art makes reading this worth it. Placed on B tier.
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Started the darkness, may take a while on this one since i've never played a shooter on a controller and the game is being quite difficult for me, despite that, i'm pleasantly surprised by the game so far, I think it's quite good.
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The Darkness
Pretty good game, shame that I got softlocked and didn't finish the game lmao
the darkness is a xbox 360/ps3 game where you play as this comoc book character, the darkness, who is a mafioso who is very cool and edgy and kills people and can control thios eldritch creature called the darkeness to kill more people in even cooler ways. Look, it's a adaptation of a comic book released in the 90's, and in the 90's "mature" and edgy thing were trending.
From what i've played, the story isn't exactly peak by any means, you're just mandated around by npcs and you do evil and twisted things. The story isn't really trying to sell you on a important messege and really ar just setups for you to go on gameplay sections and be cool.
my experience with gameplay is a bit tainted since this was my first time playing a shooter with a controller, which felt very difficult for me. Like unironically, playing this game has made me appreciate dark souls more, I was like "oh I get it, dark souls was the first 3d game to actually have good feeling combat with a controller"
the shooting mechanics are not like the ones we see in modern day. It's closer to golden eye than it is to counter strike. You can't actually aim, you can double wield weapons that you shoot one with each trigger. While you can get into cover, it's not that encouraged, it's not a cover shooter, it's not recommended, shooting while in cover is very difficult and I found it frankly not worth it, this is not gears of wars.
In order to not ide you usally just use a summon that acts like a tank, taking aggroo and leatting you waltz in and kill everyone. I also enoy that "melee" attack the darkness has, where you shoot one of your tentacle thingies to a enemy The tentacles are small and they creep through the floor, and the camara does follow it from the point of view of the tentacle, leading to this creeping grodund shot that is acutally used a lot in horror movies and the such, I really like that camera plane.
I don't think this shooting mechanics wer inherently good or bad, was just kind of the meta at the time and it served it's job of giving frenetic gameplay, which was what the game was going for. If you were the motherfucking darkness but the combat was this hyper slow, calm combat, you wouldn't feel much like the darkness would you
What I really enjoyed about this videogame is the ambiance, it's very dark and giity like you wpuld excepect, but it doesn't feel cheap or forced, I think it actually nails that ambientation. The game is very silent and verty dark, with light sources actually not illuminating very much, just making the surrounding area into a brighter color, but not giving more light, which makes breaking the light sources which you're encouraged to do actually enjoyable. It's a relatively silent game, the ost it does have doesn't go super hard or is invasive to your ears. I think the fact that you need to go to the different metro stations and actually wait there makes the world feel more alive, game does give you a lot of freeedom of choice when it comes to killing random npcs even if they were to have a a sidequest
Another thing this game does is that it doesn't have quest trackers, you listen what your goals are via conversation you often can't repeat and you just have to remember it, the game does give you freedom to go wherever from the moment you want, so you can actually get lost and have to resort to a guide, which while can be frustrating, I think really shows there was that aim to make this game as immersive as they knew how to.
I honestly would like to se a remake of this game now that we live in a post-metro world, I would like for them to take some design lessons from the metro franchise and remake this game going full into crafting a atmospheric and immersive experience.
I enjoyed it even if I couldn't finish it, placed on C tier.
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next: the darkness 2
Pretty good game, shame that I got softlocked and didn't finish the game lmao
the darkness is a xbox 360/ps3 game where you play as this comoc book character, the darkness, who is a mafioso who is very cool and edgy and kills people and can control thios eldritch creature called the darkeness to kill more people in even cooler ways. Look, it's a adaptation of a comic book released in the 90's, and in the 90's "mature" and edgy thing were trending.
From what i've played, the story isn't exactly peak by any means, you're just mandated around by npcs and you do evil and twisted things. The story isn't really trying to sell you on a important messege and really ar just setups for you to go on gameplay sections and be cool.
my experience with gameplay is a bit tainted since this was my first time playing a shooter with a controller, which felt very difficult for me. Like unironically, playing this game has made me appreciate dark souls more, I was like "oh I get it, dark souls was the first 3d game to actually have good feeling combat with a controller"
the shooting mechanics are not like the ones we see in modern day. It's closer to golden eye than it is to counter strike. You can't actually aim, you can double wield weapons that you shoot one with each trigger. While you can get into cover, it's not that encouraged, it's not a cover shooter, it's not recommended, shooting while in cover is very difficult and I found it frankly not worth it, this is not gears of wars.
In order to not ide you usally just use a summon that acts like a tank, taking aggroo and leatting you waltz in and kill everyone. I also enoy that "melee" attack the darkness has, where you shoot one of your tentacle thingies to a enemy The tentacles are small and they creep through the floor, and the camara does follow it from the point of view of the tentacle, leading to this creeping grodund shot that is acutally used a lot in horror movies and the such, I really like that camera plane.
I don't think this shooting mechanics wer inherently good or bad, was just kind of the meta at the time and it served it's job of giving frenetic gameplay, which was what the game was going for. If you were the motherfucking darkness but the combat was this hyper slow, calm combat, you wouldn't feel much like the darkness would you
What I really enjoyed about this videogame is the ambiance, it's very dark and giity like you wpuld excepect, but it doesn't feel cheap or forced, I think it actually nails that ambientation. The game is very silent and verty dark, with light sources actually not illuminating very much, just making the surrounding area into a brighter color, but not giving more light, which makes breaking the light sources which you're encouraged to do actually enjoyable. It's a relatively silent game, the ost it does have doesn't go super hard or is invasive to your ears. I think the fact that you need to go to the different metro stations and actually wait there makes the world feel more alive, game does give you a lot of freeedom of choice when it comes to killing random npcs even if they were to have a a sidequest
Another thing this game does is that it doesn't have quest trackers, you listen what your goals are via conversation you often can't repeat and you just have to remember it, the game does give you freedom to go wherever from the moment you want, so you can actually get lost and have to resort to a guide, which while can be frustrating, I think really shows there was that aim to make this game as immersive as they knew how to.
I honestly would like to se a remake of this game now that we live in a post-metro world, I would like for them to take some design lessons from the metro franchise and remake this game going full into crafting a atmospheric and immersive experience.
I enjoyed it even if I couldn't finish it, placed on C tier.
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next: the darkness 2
Cool!
And I'm sure that the second part bring you more enjoyment. Also, it works on pc, so there will be no any troubles with controller
Have fun
And I'm sure that the second part bring you more enjoyment. Also, it works on pc, so there will be no any troubles with controller
Have fun
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I'd recommend Kanon (2006)
I'd recommend Kanon (2006)