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[ELECTIONS RESULTS!!!!!] OT!Elections 2025

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Patatitta

Ymir wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Any OT member who is included in OT!Eras 2024 can vote
We're giving this shit some authority now? When, how, why?
since last year, since this rule was implemented for parliament and no one complained about it.

ShinRun wrote:

I will run for president and not pu to the actual election
I don't get this post very well, I also just woke up, but if you're asking to run, you cant, as you're not a 2024 eras memeber
Ymir

Patatitta wrote:

Ymir wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Any OT member who is included in OT!Eras 2024 can vote
We're giving this shit some authority now? When, how, why?
since last year, since this rule was implemented for parliament and no one complained about it.
Likely because nobody actually read it. Don't see why such an addition is needed, why should we exclude votes from denizens based off an irrelevant thread?
It can't possibly be because of voting integrity or whatever, because everyone is just going to vote for their friends or vote based off the most retarded reasoning anyway.

Also this is like part 50 of me questioning how the President has this much power.
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Ymir wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Ymir wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Any OT member who is included in OT!Eras 2024 can vote
We're giving this shit some authority now? When, how, why?
since last year, since this rule was implemented for parliament and no one complained about it.
Likely because nobody actually read it. Don't see why such an addition is needed, why should we exclude votes from denizens based off an irrelevant thread?
It can't possibly be because of voting integrity or whatever, because everyone is just going to vote for their friends or vote based off the most retarded reasoning anyway.

Also this is like part 50 of me questioning how the President has this much power.
people DID comment on the change, but it wasn't as a negative, people agreed with it. What has changed since then is that a few people have a really bad opinion on me.

That rule was added to prevent people who haven't browsed ot in years to randomly come in, vote the only oldfag they recognize, and leave shortly after.
Ymir

Patatitta wrote:

Ymir wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Ymir wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Any OT member who is included in OT!Eras 2024 can vote
We're giving this shit some authority now? When, how, why?
since last year, since this rule was implemented for parliament and no one complained about it.
Likely because nobody actually read it. Don't see why such an addition is needed, why should we exclude votes from denizens based off an irrelevant thread?
It can't possibly be because of voting integrity or whatever, because everyone is just going to vote for their friends or vote based off the most retarded reasoning anyway.

Also this is like part 50 of me questioning how the President has this much power.
That rule was added to prevent people who haven't browsed ot in years to randomly come in, vote the only oldfag they recognize, and leave shortly
I don't think it's really that big of an issue to the point where ypi have to create quite an undemocratic rule. Everyone has their reasons for voting for a president, it's not great preventing votes over something like that.
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Ymir wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Ymir wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Ymir wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Any OT member who is included in OT!Eras 2024 can vote
We're giving this shit some authority now? When, how, why?
since last year, since this rule was implemented for parliament and no one complained about it.
Likely because nobody actually read it. Don't see why such an addition is needed, why should we exclude votes from denizens based off an irrelevant thread?
It can't possibly be because of voting integrity or whatever, because everyone is just going to vote for their friends or vote based off the most retarded reasoning anyway.

Also this is like part 50 of me questioning how the President has this much power.
That rule was added to prevent people who haven't browsed ot in years to randomly come in, vote the only oldfag they recognize, and leave shortly
I don't think it's really that big of an issue to create quite an undemocratic rule. Everyone has their reasons for voting for a president, it's not great preventing votes over something like that.
I do think it's that big of a issue and I don't think it's undemocratic, if you haven't seen the state of ot you shouldn't be able to vote on the changes that should be taken. I don't think being recognized at some point of history as someone who talked in OT should give you that right. Also, you may say it's undemocratic because i'm removing the right of voting to certain people, but under the previous denizen system, where the gov subjectively chose who became or not denizen, it was even worse. You could legally just not give denizen who people you disliked and then have those persons not vote on the elections, not saying that it did happen (at least for that reason) but that's a big fucking problem. Under this system where the metric is purely objective there is no way I cant manipulate who gets to vote with very, very few exceptions (the gmt clause)
Ymir

Patatitta wrote:

Ymir wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Ymir wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Ymir wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Any OT member who is included in OT!Eras 2024 can vote
We're giving this shit some authority now? When, how, why?
since last year, since this rule was implemented for parliament and no one complained about it.
Likely because nobody actually read it. Don't see why such an addition is needed, why should we exclude votes from denizens based off an irrelevant thread?
It can't possibly be because of voting integrity or whatever, because everyone is just going to vote for their friends or vote based off the most retarded reasoning anyway.

Also this is like part 50 of me questioning how the President has this much power.
That rule was added to prevent people who haven't browsed ot in years to randomly come in, vote the only oldfag they recognize, and leave shortly
I don't think it's really that big of an issue to create quite an undemocratic rule. Everyone has their reasons for voting for a president, it's not great preventing votes over something like that.
I do think it's that big of a issue and I don't think it's undemocratic, if you haven't seen the state of ot you shouldn't be able to vote on the changes that should be taken. I don't think being recognized at some point of history as someone who talked in OT should give you that right. Also, you may say it's undemocratic because i'm removing the right of voting to certain people, but under the previous denizen system, where the gov subjectively chose who became or not denizen, it was even worse. You could legally just not give denizen who people you disliked and then have those persons not vote on the elections, not saying that it did happen (at least for that reason) but that's a big fucking problem. Under this system where the metric is purely objective there is no way I cant manipulate who gets to vote with very, very few exceptions (the gmt clause)
Inactive members voting has never been a big issue in the past and unless there's some coordinated oldfag uprising (which can be noticed and avoided as unfair voting behaviour), an oldfag voting for a member, new or old, will not be detrimental. Saying 'you can't vote because you weren't in my eras thread' is silly for the following reasons:

1. You don't need to post on OT to know what's going on. Especially in post 10th Gen, where nothing-ever-happens. Someone like ShinRun for example is still quite knowledgeable of OT, especially when you consider their involvemebt in parliament, and their vote should matter, regardless of if he fits in the silly activity monitor thread.

2. OT is quite simple to understand, a simple debate/mission statement is enough to get an oldfag in the loop on issues, assuming they read it. If they don't, I assume that doesn't really set them apart from other OT users since not all active people actually know about the politics here.

Addressing the comment on Denizenship and previous government bias, whilst there was obviously issues (ahem sleepy government), you're exaggerating how it really went down within those systems. Sure, someone may be biased against an individuals attainment of Denizen, but there was always push back within the parliament. Eventually people deserving in the diverse perspectives of the parliament would make it in.

Though I partially understand why you're incorporating Eras, I can't say I agree with it. At the very least you could push the eligibility for voting to be a bit higher, maybe allowing 2023 Eras users to also be allowed a vote.
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Ymir wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Ymir wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Ymir wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Ymir wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Any OT member who is included in OT!Eras 2024 can vote
We're giving this shit some authority now? When, how, why?
since last year, since this rule was implemented for parliament and no one complained about it.
Likely because nobody actually read it. Don't see why such an addition is needed, why should we exclude votes from denizens based off an irrelevant thread?
It can't possibly be because of voting integrity or whatever, because everyone is just going to vote for their friends or vote based off the most retarded reasoning anyway.

Also this is like part 50 of me questioning how the President has this much power.
That rule was added to prevent people who haven't browsed ot in years to randomly come in, vote the only oldfag they recognize, and leave shortly
I don't think it's really that big of an issue to create quite an undemocratic rule. Everyone has their reasons for voting for a president, it's not great preventing votes over something like that.
I do think it's that big of a issue and I don't think it's undemocratic, if you haven't seen the state of ot you shouldn't be able to vote on the changes that should be taken. I don't think being recognized at some point of history as someone who talked in OT should give you that right. Also, you may say it's undemocratic because i'm removing the right of voting to certain people, but under the previous denizen system, where the gov subjectively chose who became or not denizen, it was even worse. You could legally just not give denizen who people you disliked and then have those persons not vote on the elections, not saying that it did happen (at least for that reason) but that's a big fucking problem. Under this system where the metric is purely objective there is no way I cant manipulate who gets to vote with very, very few exceptions (the gmt clause)
Inactive members voting has never been a big issue in the past and unless there's some coordinated oldfag uprising (which can be noticed and avoided as unfair voting behaviour), an oldfag voting for a member, new or old, will not be detrimental. Saying 'you can't vote because you weren't in my eras thread' is silly for the following reasons:

1. You don't need to post on OT to know what's going on. Especially in post 10th Gen, where nothing-ever-happens. Someone like ShinRun for example is still quite knowledgeable of OT, especially when you consider their involvemebt in parliament, and their vote should matter, regardless of if he fits in the silly activity monitor thread.

2. OT is quite simple to understand, a simple debate/mission statement is enough to get an oldfag in the loop on issues, assuming they read it. If they don't, I assume that doesn't really set them apart from other OT users since not all active people actually know about the politics here.

Addressing the comment on Denizenship and previous government bias, whilst there was obviously issues (ahem sleepy government), you're exaggerating how it really went down within those systems. Sure, someone may be biased against an individuals attainment of Denizen, but there was always push back within the parliament. Eventually people deserving in the diverse perspectives of the parliament would make it in.

Though I partially understand why you're incorporating Eras, I can't say I agree with it. At the very least you could push the eligibility for voting to be a bit higher, maybe allowing 2023 Eras users to also be allowed a vote.
pushing it to 2023 wouldn't actually include any new active people in OT today, that was already brought up by kobold and they decided to check it.
Corne2Plum3
Just removing right vote to people and even the right to candidate to some users IS undemocratic, whatever how long you keep yapping about it
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Just removing right vote to people and even the right to candidate to some users IS undemocratic, whatever how long you keep yapping about it
i'm also giving the right to other people, for non-denizen to vote. Last year I gave the right to blushing for example
Cerno
make it so that u have to be above the age of 18 to vote just like irl ez
igorsprite

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Just removing right vote to people and even the right to candidate to some users IS undemocratic, whatever how long you keep yapping about it
i don't remember you saying that when it happened to me
Corne2Plum3

igorsprite wrote:

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Just removing right vote to people and even the right to candidate to some users IS undemocratic, whatever how long you keep yapping about it
i don't remember you saying that when it happened to me
You deserved it and it's impressive you're still in denial after 2-3 years
Behrauder

igorsprite wrote:

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Just removing right vote to people and even the right to candidate to some users IS undemocratic, whatever how long you keep yapping about it
i don't remember you saying that when it happened to me
If I'm not mistaken, people didn't like you, and that's why you didn't become a denizen. This is an example of the flaw in the old denizen system, which Patatitta had pointed out.
Corne2Plum3

Behrauder wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Just removing right vote to people and even the right to candidate to some users IS undemocratic, whatever how long you keep yapping about it
i don't remember you saying that when it happened to me
If I'm not mistaken, people didn't like you, and that's why you didn't become a denizen. This is an example of the flaw in the old denizen system, which Patatitta had pointed out.
He managed to become denizen but got it removed for severly innapropriate behaviour
Behrauder

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Behrauder wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Just removing right vote to people and even the right to candidate to some users IS undemocratic, whatever how long you keep yapping about it
i don't remember you saying that when it happened to me
If I'm not mistaken, people didn't like you, and that's why you didn't become a denizen. This is an example of the flaw in the old denizen system, which Patatitta had pointed out.
He managed to become denizen but got it removed for severly innapropriate behaviour
Even if they were right about he being a bad person (I'm not saying they were or weren't), I don't think it's cool to hide the dark past of history (even though GMTs are professionals at it).
Topic Starter
Patatitta
i'm going to be placed on the bad books here, but yes I think igorsprite is a bad person, i'm surprised that they stil deny it and act like nothing ever happened and that when we point it out they act like they don't know what we mean, but, they already served their sentence. Furthermore, they're not exiled or whatever and they do follow all of the other requirements. So I have no right to really exclude them from the election.

You either remove them completely from OT forever, or let them stay like they're doing now, but we cant be on a perpetual "oh yes they can be here but like we're not going to allow them to participate on things that we consider important". I think that is a very bad solution
Corne2Plum3

I submit my candidature to be president

Topic Starter
Patatitta

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

I submit my candidature to be president

denied
Corne2Plum3

Patatitta wrote:

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

I submit my candidature to be president

denied
And for what? That's not very democratic you know? This doesn't shows you as open minded you claimed to be literally 5 minutes ago?

I'm running from president, period.
Scyla
I Am Running
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

I submit my candidature to be president

denied
And for what? That's not very democratic you know? This doesn't shows you as open minded you claimed to be literally 5 minutes ago?

I'm running from president, period.
Humans are complex, openmindeness is not a concept where you either agree or disagree on all ideas, the fact that I disagree with this in specific doesn't make me a close minded person, also, you can't just go, "ha! they said this on the other thread and I know I can exaggerate the meaning of these words to force the outcome I want to see!", what did you expect?, to me to go "oh shit corne got me I got to let them run now it's true I said i'm open minded that removes my own free will in this situation"?, I don't think that is the case. Yes I don't like how you're acting, but that doesn't mean I can catalogue you with a thought so ilogical. The most likely alternative I can thing of is that you're still pissed off at me and this is just a silly tantrum you're throwing
Reyalp51
oh girl this weeks gonna be spicy
Reyalp51
also scyla is a strong opponent you guys have to cook
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Reyalp51 wrote:

also scyla is a strong opponent you guys have to cook
holy shit almost missed that approved
Corne2Plum3

Patatitta wrote:

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

I submit my candidature to be president

denied
And for what? That's not very democratic you know? This doesn't shows you as open minded you claimed to be literally 5 minutes ago?

I'm running from president, period.
Humans are complex, openmindeness is not a concept where you either agree or disagree on all ideas, the fact that I disagree with this in specific doesn't make me a close minded person, also, you can't just go, "ha! they said this on the other thread and I know I can exaggerate the meaning of these words to force the outcome I want to see!", what did you expect?, to me to go "oh shit corne got me I got to let them run now it's true I said i'm open minded that removes my own free will in this situation"?, I don't think that is the case. Yes I don't like how you're acting, but that doesn't mean I can catalogue you with a thought so ilogical. The most likely alternative I can thing of is that you're still pissed off at me and this is just a silly tantrum you're throwing
Honestly I have a shit ton of example proving you're the most stubborn person I've even interacted with, completly unable to correct yourself or change your opinion. When we're arguing with you, you're always trying the others are wrong more rather than defending your point. Also refusing me just out of nowhere because "I'm GMT" is still bull shit. There was GMTs before, you know it. And for real, sumbmitting my candidature doesn't means I gonna win. You're not the one who decide who can participate or not, who can be president or not. Who's going to be president will be and always be decided by the vote. Your bullshit of excluding people then claim being elected "by the vote" is not democracy, this is disguised dictatorship. And don't use the fact I'm GMT because "I gonna establish dictatorship", because the one establishing the dictatorship is you. And for real you aren't eliminating real threats for you (last year you won against me legit, and the amount of people that aren't in OT!Eras 2024 are a minority), unless they are?
Reyalp51
blood for the blood god
Scyla
If I win, I won't do anything..

Changes? nah, we already ballin'
Scyla

Reyalp51 wrote:

blood for the blood god
we killin baby
Topic Starter
Patatitta
you're not really responding to the core of what I said in that post, in fact, I wonder, what's your endgame here?, I am very much closed to this one specific topic yes, and you realize it, in fact you claim i'm closed in most topics. So why are you trying and trying and trying?, posting your candidature after I said over and over and over that it would be rejected? Are you trying to change my mind?, the one thing you're claiming is impossible?, or are you trying to change the public perception to try to start a mob to take me down?, or do you just have no plan and are posting in a ravanged frenzy?
Corne2Plum3

Patatitta wrote:

you're not really responding to the core of what I said in that post, in fact, I wonder, what's your endgame here?, I am very much closed to this one specific topic yes, and you realize it, in fact you claim i'm closed in most topics. So why are you trying and trying and trying?, posting your candidature after I said over and over and over that it would be rejected? Are you trying to change my mind?, the one thing you're claiming is impossible?, or are you trying to change the public perception to try to start a mob to take me down?, or do you just have no plan and are posting in a ravanged frenzy?
Changing your mind is impossible I know it. What I'm just doing isn't firing you from president, but giving the choice of ALL denizens to choose me as president, whatever you like it or not. I'm claiming my rights as OT! denizen, and I won't give up that easily this year.
Scyla

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

you're not really responding to the core of what I said in that post, in fact, I wonder, what's your endgame here?, I am very much closed to this one specific topic yes, and you realize it, in fact you claim i'm closed in most topics. So why are you trying and trying and trying?, posting your candidature after I said over and over and over that it would be rejected? Are you trying to change my mind?, the one thing you're claiming is impossible?, or are you trying to change the public perception to try to start a mob to take me down?, or do you just have no plan and are posting in a ravanged frenzy?
Changing your mind is impossible I know it. What I'm just doing isn't firing you from president, but giving the choice of ALL denizens to choose me as president, whatever you like it or not. I'm claiming my rights as OT! denizen, and I won't give up that easily this year.
are you two serious? or just another rp
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

you're not really responding to the core of what I said in that post, in fact, I wonder, what's your endgame here?, I am very much closed to this one specific topic yes, and you realize it, in fact you claim i'm closed in most topics. So why are you trying and trying and trying?, posting your candidature after I said over and over and over that it would be rejected? Are you trying to change my mind?, the one thing you're claiming is impossible?, or are you trying to change the public perception to try to start a mob to take me down?, or do you just have no plan and are posting in a ravanged frenzy?
Changing your mind is impossible I know it. What I'm just doing isn't firing you from president, but giving the choice of ALL denizens to choose me as president, whatever you like it or not. I'm claiming my rights as OT! denizen, and I won't give up that easily this year.
so trying to change the public perception, got it
DeletedUser_32597938
honestly, i don’t think people care near as much as they used to.

i think ymir is correct, nobody likely read the thread. the idea of the parliament and government and presidency and all of that died when nothing happened. nobody became denizen for months on end. we lost consistency and the only way people are going to care is if we carefully give people a second chance and pray someone will do something about the state of everything.


we can call shit undemocratic or democratic or whatever but honestly i dont think people much care


The last 2 years I’ve been in OT for, damn near nothing has happened since ghoulybits left and whoever the last forgettable president was didn’t do much to keep people entertained.

I hope you guys figure something out that works instead of bickering.

We need change, bad.
Topic Starter
Patatitta

IAMACROBA wrote:

honestly, i don’t think people care near as much as they used to.

i think ymir is correct, nobody likely read the thread. the idea of the parliament and government and presidency and all of that died when nothing happened. nobody became denizen for months on end. we lost consistency and the only way people are going to care is if we carefully give people a second chance and pray someone will do something about the state of everything.


we can call shit undemocratic or democratic or whatever but honestly i dont think people much care


The last 2 years I’ve been in OT for, damn near nothing has happened since ghoulybits left and whoever the last forgettable president was didn’t do much to keep people entertained.

I hope you guys figure something out that works instead of bickering.

We need change, bad.
I don't think you can call my term boring
DeletedUser_32597938
Well I certainly don’t think your productivity is near to scale as any previous presidency.
Tateshina Eve
Please be especially careful of seating a president who's under legal age.
Karmine

IAMACROBA wrote:

honestly, i don’t think people care near as much as they used to.

i think ymir is correct, nobody likely read the thread. the idea of the parliament and government and presidency and all of that died when nothing happened. nobody became denizen for months on end. we lost consistency and the only way people are going to care is if we carefully give people a second chance and pray someone will do something about the state of everything.


we can call shit undemocratic or democratic or whatever but honestly i dont think people much care


The last 2 years I’ve been in OT for, damn near nothing has happened since ghoulybits left and whoever the last forgettable president was didn’t do much to keep people entertained.

I hope you guys figure something out that works instead of bickering.

We need change, bad.
Literally more things were done by gov last year than in the 4 year prior, like remaking denizen and reviving it since it had died during previous gov, gmt report form etc.
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Tateshina Eve wrote:

Please be especially careful of seating a president who's under legal age.
that would be ideal but sadly not something that I can enforce


IAMACROBA wrote:

Well I certainly don’t think your productivity is near to scale as any previous presidency.
I don't think you were active during the first couple months when I did the big changes, after that I've been maitaining what I did and bumping some gov threads but it's true I didn't organize many events if any at all.
DeletedUser_32597938

Patatitta wrote:

Tateshina Eve wrote:

Please be especially careful of seating a president who's under legal age.
that would be ideal but sadly not something that I can enforce


IAMACROBA wrote:

Well I certainly don’t think your productivity is near to scale as any previous presidency.
I don't think you were active during the first couple months when I did the big changes, after that I've been maitaining what I did and bumping some gov threads but it's true I didn't organize many events if any at all.
Who was president before you? You’re right, my inactivity may cause a lapse in judgment.
Topic Starter
Patatitta

IAMACROBA wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Tateshina Eve wrote:

Please be especially careful of seating a president who's under legal age.
that would be ideal but sadly not something that I can enforce


IAMACROBA wrote:

Well I certainly don’t think your productivity is near to scale as any previous presidency.
I don't think you were active during the first couple months when I did the big changes, after that I've been maitaining what I did and bumping some gov threads but it's true I didn't organize many events if any at all.
Who was president before you? You’re right, my inactivity may cause a lapse in judgment.
previous was EBLF who did became very inactive, in fact they never even held parliament elections and it was the previous parliament who truly got everything done, but yes, I do agree that it killed momentum hard.
DeletedUser_32597938
Okay, Patatitta, I sincerely apologize for confusing you with EBLF, and should EBLF read this someday, I do not think of you poorly, just your presidency.

Karmine, thank you for correcting me.

I would like to help in whatever way I can, but I first need to read up on the history and current changes of the government and all of that, but I will keep my eye on this thread for the time being.
burgernfat
about phase 2, will the questions be released in "batches" on a daily basis, similar to the last election or will they be released immediately when whitelisted?
Karmine

IAMACROBA wrote:

Okay, Patatitta, I sincerely apologize for confusing you with EBLF, and should EBLF read this someday, I do not think of you poorly, just your presidency.
Yeah eblf is cool, but he was completely useless as president lol.
Topic Starter
Patatitta

IAMACROBA wrote:

Okay, Patatitta, I sincerely apologize for confusing you with EBLF, and should EBLF read this someday, I do not think of you poorly, just your presidency.

Karmine, thank you for correcting me.

I would like to help in whatever way I can, but I first need to read up on the history and current changes of the government and all of that, but I will keep my eye on this thread for the time being.
dw, I accept your apoloies


burgernfat wrote:

about phase 2, will the questions be released in "batches" on a daily basis, similar to the last election or will they be released immediately when whitelisted?
honestly i'm not quite sure, I guess depends on the ammount of questions submited?, if it's too much of a load I will divide it, but idk, i'm open to suggestions
igorsprite
i want to participate
Topic Starter
Patatitta

igorsprite wrote:

i want to participate
I have no choice but to approve
Tateshina Eve
Igorsprite, the only thing you're participating in is a farmstay in the Outer Hebrides, or a mental asylum. I'm being kind to you by offering options.
Reyalp51

igorsprite wrote:

i want to participate
LMAOOOOO THIS ELECTIONS ARE GONNA BE HEATED
Karmine

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

i want to participate
I have no choice but to approve
But you're supposed to be undemocratic and prevent people you don't like from participating. :x
DeletedUser_32597938
I would like to register for presidency.
Reyalp51
oh damn you changed your name again but this time its the iconic one welcome back dude
Topic Starter
Patatitta

IAMACROBA wrote:

I would like to register for presidency.
added
Ashton
Can I actually withdraw my candidacy please?
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Ashton wrote:

Can I actually withdraw my candidacy please?
sure
Ymir
o7
Wimpy Cursed
this is looking quite nice for amusement
Kobold84
Following the rule of cool I would accept Corne regardless of any principle because it will make the elections more interesting to follow.
abraker
Well I know one thing for sure - Patatitta is not going to be the next president

In fact you can preemptively remove yourself from the candidates list. It would be a miracle if you obtain more than half a vote.

I expect the next president to make some VERY specific executive changes
abraker
@Poly you have my vote if you promise to fix this voting/candidate bs
ShinRun
Yk, potato man might just go down as the Stalin of OT but I’m glad he was president since shit actually happened.
Topic Starter
Patatitta
since abraker is now also against me, and I can't run gov without the gmt aproval, gmt are now allowed to run, even if I think that's complete bullshit.
Corne2Plum3

I submit my candidature to be president


Patatitta wrote:

since abraker is now also against me, and I can't run gov without the gmt aproval, gmt are now allowed to run, even if I think that's complete bullshit.
At least if either any of us win, I think these elections are going to be cinema
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

I submit my candidature to be president


Patatitta wrote:

since abraker is now also against me, and I can't run gov without the gmt aproval, gmt are now allowed to run, even if I think that's complete bullshit.
At least if either any of us win, I think these elections are going to be cinema
yeah I already added you
Reyalp51
kinda weird you guys are againts the gmt rule now when you were fine with it 2 days ago but sure
lets see what happens
abraker

Patatitta wrote:

since abraker is now also against me, and I can't run gov without the gmt aproval, gmt are now allowed to run, even if I think that's complete bullshit.
lmao noooo you gotta resist, fight till the bitter end xD

To be clear I dont support the GMT cant run for president nor that older innactive denizens cant vote, but accept it for what it is. If I and other denizens sat on our asses while these rules were passed and did nothing about it, we deserve this consequence. I can always undermine this election and run my own without those restrictions and I'm sure everybody else would agree that would be better, but performing what is basically a cheat code in this rp game is no fun

would be hella weird if potato man does win second presidency tho ( ._.)

at the end it does piss off a lot of other people (some beyond rp for whatever reason), so entirely up to you. But your chances are pretty much numbered
Karmine

abraker wrote:

I can always undermine this election and run my own without those restrictions and I'm sure everybody else would agree that would be better, but performing what is basically a cheat code in this rp game is no fun
That's basically what you're doing by pushing him to change the election rules established and accepted by the government (including gmt) after the elections started just so corne can be candidate.
Karmine

abraker wrote:

@Poly you have my vote if you promise to fix this voting/candidate bs
Best shitpost in this thread btw.
Topic Starter
Patatitta

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

since abraker is now also against me, and I can't run gov without the gmt aproval, gmt are now allowed to run, even if I think that's complete bullshit.
lmao noooo you gotta resist, fight till the bitter end xD

To be clear I dont support the GMT cant run for president nor that older innactive denizens cant vote, but accept it for what it is. If I and other denizens sat on our asses while these rules were passed and did nothing about it, we deserve this consequence. I can always undermine this election and run my own without those restrictions and I'm sure everybody else would agree that would be better, but performing what is basically a cheat code in this rp game is no fun

would be hella weird if potato man does win second presidency tho ( ._.)
look dude, i'm unironically pissed off, these first two days of election have been complete awful for me, like actually, I'm a fucking human being and I know this is in the internet or whatever but what has happened is a literal witch hunt, I've been accused of

1- Being the type of person who would manipulate votes
2- Being the type of person who would cherrypick question
3- Being a liar and banning GMT because I dislike corne in specific
4- Being someone who post ragebait
5- Removing the denizen requirement because I'm trying to win the election by unfair means
6- Recontextualizing what I did last year, presenting it like it's the first time I do it and that i'm trying to steal the election whatever whatever
7- Having people make up bullshit about the conversations that happened in discord

And now you come in and backstab me like that after you totally didn't show that attitude over discord yesterday?, yes, i'm fucking heated, but am I wrong?, am I a fucking closeminded asshole for doing this?, am I wrong in feeling angry because of suddenly being framed as this awful person?, has the years of actively posting in OT and building a good relationship with most of people here meant NOTHING?, I am actually devastated. I talked earlier about how the reason I didn't backtrack earlier was because of my pride, that I wanted to clear my name. But now i've been forced to back down, which in a way feels like claiming admission of all these awful claims

And then you now go "noooooooooo you were not meant to back down it's not as fun that way", i'm sorry but if this was rp, if this was a game, I'm not having fun, this is actually just being awful for me.

I don't want to go down as the "Stalin of OT", that was never my goal and I thought I was in the right path not do that. But now it seems that is going to be the case, because I guess nothing I did all these years mattered at all.

Fuck all of you, for real.
abraker

Karmine wrote:

abraker wrote:

I can always undermine this election and run my own without those restrictions and I'm sure everybody else would agree that would be better, but performing what is basically a cheat code in this rp game is no fun
That's basically what you're doing by pushing him to change the election rules established and accepted by the government (including gmt) after the elections started just so corne can be candidate.
Beyond the playing the "The potato commited the political suicide" card, it was never my intention to use my GMT power to force that change. It was my intention to use my status as GMT, as a group I am part of, a group that lost rights in this government, to wield a sword against him.

Yet there is a fine gray line there because it doesn't sit will it other GMT, especially Corne, who can cause actually tension in the gov. With GMT holding the actual power, it understandably scares the potato.
abraker

Patatitta wrote:

...
@Patatitta please take it easy and enjoy the wild ride. This is some top tier rp drama OT was missing out on, but it's nothing to get your blood pressure high over. People should hate in the context of these elections, but not you as an actual person
Karmine

abraker wrote:

Karmine wrote:

abraker wrote:

I can always undermine this election and run my own without those restrictions and I'm sure everybody else would agree that would be better, but performing what is basically a cheat code in this rp game is no fun
That's basically what you're doing by pushing him to change the election rules established and accepted by the government (including gmt) after the elections started just so corne can be candidate.
Beyond the playing the "The potato commited the political suicide" card, it was never my intention to use my GMT power to force that change. It was my intention to use my status as GMT, as a group I am part of, a group that lost rights in this government, to wield a sword against him.

Yet there is a fine gray line there because it doesn't sit will it other GMT, especially Corne, who can cause actually tension in the gov. With GMT holding the actual power, it understandably scares the potato.
What? I genuinely don't understand your post.

The reason you can't be candidate is because all the power the president and gov has is given by the GMT, the GMT are part of the government but also always above it.
Corne trying so hard to remove that bit of power from regular users by being president himself is just weird.
Topic Starter
Patatitta

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

...
@Patatitta please take it easy and enjoy the wild ride. This is some top tier rp drama OT was missing out on, but it's nothing to get your blood pressure high over. People should hate in the context of these elections, but not you as an actual person
I don't appreciate you taking all of this as "the drama ot was missing on". I care and all of these comments genuinly hurt. If this is the drama ot was missing on, I don't want to be part of the same OT than you.

I tried making OT the best I could this year I was president, because this is a online space I frequent very often and somewhere I care about, and this is my payoff?
DeletedUser_32597938

Reyalp51 wrote:

oh damn you changed your name again but this time its the iconic one welcome back dude
my fucking goat i’m back for good no more name changes
abraker

Karmine wrote:

abraker wrote:

Karmine wrote:

abraker wrote:

I can always undermine this election and run my own without those restrictions and I'm sure everybody else would agree that would be better, but performing what is basically a cheat code in this rp game is no fun
That's basically what you're doing by pushing him to change the election rules established and accepted by the government (including gmt) after the elections started just so corne can be candidate.
Beyond the playing the "The potato commited the political suicide" card, it was never my intention to use my GMT power to force that change. It was my intention to use my status as GMT, as a group I am part of, a group that lost rights in this government, to wield a sword against him.

Yet there is a fine gray line there because it doesn't sit will it other GMT, especially Corne, who can cause actually tension in the gov. With GMT holding the actual power, it understandably scares the potato.
What? I genuinely don't understand your post.

The reason you can't be candidate is because all the power the president and gov has is given by the GMT, the GMT are part of the government but also always above it.
Corne trying so hard to remove that bit of power from regular users by being president himself is just weird.
I am taking the postion of agreeing with Corne. You might see it as more dictorial, but I see it as granting a group I am part of rights. Welcome to politics :)


Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

...
@Patatitta please take it easy and enjoy the wild ride. This is some top tier rp drama OT was missing out on, but it's nothing to get your blood pressure high over. People should hate in the context of these elections, but not you as an actual person
I don't appreciate you taking all of this as "the drama ot was missing on". I care and all of these comments genuinly hurt. If this is the drama ot was missing on, I don't want to be part of the same OT than you.

I tried making OT the best I could this year I was president, because this is a online space I frequent very often and somewhere I care about, and this is my payoff?
I am sorry you feel that way. We are all here to have fun. So let's please not take all those accusations you listed seriously. Think of them as gameplay elements or something. That's how I would treat things.
igorsprite
it's a little sad to see you guys attacking patatitta personally just for rp
Karmine

abraker wrote:

Karmine wrote:

abraker wrote:

Karmine wrote:

abraker wrote:

I can always undermine this election and run my own without those restrictions and I'm sure everybody else would agree that would be better, but performing what is basically a cheat code in this rp game is no fun
That's basically what you're doing by pushing him to change the election rules established and accepted by the government (including gmt) after the elections started just so corne can be candidate.
Beyond the playing the "The potato commited the political suicide" card, it was never my intention to use my GMT power to force that change. It was my intention to use my status as GMT, as a group I am part of, a group that lost rights in this government, to wield a sword against him.

Yet there is a fine gray line there because it doesn't sit will it other GMT, especially Corne, who can cause actually tension in the gov. With GMT holding the actual power, it understandably scares the potato.
What? I genuinely don't understand your post.

The reason you can't be candidate is because all the power the president and gov has is given by the GMT, the GMT are part of the government but also always above it.
Corne trying so hard to remove that bit of power from regular users by being president himself is just weird.
I am taking the postion of agreeing with Corne. You might see it as more dictorial, but I see it as granting a group I am part of rights. Welcome to politics :)
Except that group already has every right, you're just removing rights from other groups (non gmt).
That's very current day politics but that's not something you should be proud of.
Ashton
I will say that I feel a lot of sympathy for potato.

I think some people have said things that go way beyond the scope of RP, even if it wasn't their intention to do so.

RP just simply isn't fun when people use it as an opportunity to be cruel to one another on a personal level.
Karmine

Ashton wrote:

I will say that I feel a lot of sympathy for potato.

I think some people have said things that go way beyond the scope of RP, even if it wasn't their intention to do so.

RP just simply isn't fun when people use it as an opportunity to be cruel to one another on a personal level.
At least one has bad intentions.
Topic Starter
Patatitta
I've made a thread to talk about all of this. Let's keep this thread purely to elections stuff, talk about what you would do as president and why people should vote you or whatever.
Polyspora

abraker wrote:

Well I know one thing for sure - Patatitta is not going to be the next president

In fact you can preemptively remove yourself from the candidates list. It would be a miracle if you obtain more than half a vote.

I expect the next president to make some VERY specific executive changes
I will, don’t worry
Polyspora

Karmine wrote:

Ashton wrote:

I will say that I feel a lot of sympathy for potato.

I think some people have said things that go way beyond the scope of RP, even if it wasn't their intention to do so.

RP just simply isn't fun when people use it as an opportunity to be cruel to one another on a personal level.
At least one has bad intentions.
I don’t think something can be as I’ll intended as rejecting everything we’ve been doing for years only to create your own version of it to your taste.
tepache mapache

Patatitta wrote:

OT! Elections 2025




Welcome to the yearly OT! Elections, where we decide a new president, all rules and phases of the election will be explained down below.

something else

________________________


What does the president do?


The role of OT!President gives you the ability to push a variety of changes in OT, as long as the GMTs and parliament agree with it. Some examples of actions a president can do is locking/unlocking threads, exiling users, pinning/unpinning threads, etc. You're also given control of certain OT institutions such as denizen.

Who can participate?


  1. Any OT member who is included in OT!Eras 2024 can vote, including GMTs, electoral candidates, and current parliament members.
  2. Any non-GMT member who is included in OT!Eras 2024 can register to be a electoral candidate. The reason why GMTs are NOT included is because they're already part of the gov. So having a GMT be a president would just cause a dictatorship, as no separation of powers between gov and gmt would exist.
  3. Self voting is allowed, as honestly it wouldn't change much, the metagame would be just to not vote if you can't vote for yourself and I don't like that so self-voting allowed everyone votes for themselves it's like we didn't have a vote to begin with.
  4. If you're a GMT but aren’t part of OT!Eras 2024, you can't vote.

Phase One:


During this phase anyone who meets the previous requirements can register to be a presidential candidate. Just write "I register for president" or something along those lines, as long as you properly communicate that you want to be a president it works. If I miss someone please go to my house and scream at me (just tell me in the thread or dms or anywhere)

This phase will last a week. If you missed this phase, you can no longer apply for president, sorry buddy!

Also, to expedite the process of the elections, you already may start privately submitting questions for phase 2 if you wished to do so.

SUBMIT QUESTIONS
READ QUESTIONS

Phase Two:


This is the interview/debate phase. Everyone may submit questions, be it publicly in the phase two thread, or anonymously, by writing the question on a automated google form/sheet that will be linked on the OP. After that, if your question isn't a complete shitpost, it will be added to a list in the phase two thread. Every presidential candidate must answer to every single whitelisted question. Their answers will also be noted in the OP.

The thread last 7 days, however, the period for uploading mandatory questions only last 6. That is because it a question were to be whitelisted last minute there may be people who may not have the chance to answer leading to a dq which would feel pretty bad. You may still ask questions during that last day tho, it's just that if someone doesn’t answer it they won’t be DQed.

Phase Three:


Every eligible voter has 1 vote, most voted candidate wins, everyone who had voted must confirm that they have voted in "OT Presidential Elections 2024 - Third Phase" thread.

Each voter will be provided a unique token after they have voted. Once the results have been announced, a voter may find whom they voted for by their token listed in the voting results.

The voting period will last 7 days


Other general rules


Campaigning and making threads to boost your popularity is allowed. If you're not eligible for voting you may still make threads related to the elections. Debates are allowed.

Buying votes or gaining votes in a unfairly manner will result on a DQ.


The winner of this elections MUST immediately host the parliament elections. They can also just get someone else to do the vote but you get the point it must happen.

________________________


Confirmed Candidates

-Patatitta
-Polyspora
-Scyla
-Igorsprite
-IAMACROBA
-Corne2Plum3
is there a position for vp of the chair of the directors of supervisors of deputies of justices of governors of sherifs of north-east-shire of OT! ? ( VP of TCODOSODOJOFOSONESOOT for short) because I'd like to apply to that
Karmine

Polyspora wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Ashton wrote:

I will say that I feel a lot of sympathy for potato.

I think some people have said things that go way beyond the scope of RP, even if it wasn't their intention to do so.

RP just simply isn't fun when people use it as an opportunity to be cruel to one another on a personal level.
At least one has bad intentions.
I don’t think something can be as I’ll intended as rejecting everything we’ve been doing for years only to create your own version of it to your taste.
Who is "we"? The majority voted for pata to be president and a parliament that supported what he planned to do.
Karmine

tepache mapache wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

OT! Elections 2025




Welcome to the yearly OT! Elections, where we decide a new president, all rules and phases of the election will be explained down below.

something else

________________________


What does the president do?


The role of OT!President gives you the ability to push a variety of changes in OT, as long as the GMTs and parliament agree with it. Some examples of actions a president can do is locking/unlocking threads, exiling users, pinning/unpinning threads, etc. You're also given control of certain OT institutions such as denizen.

Who can participate?


  1. Any OT member who is included in OT!Eras 2024 can vote, including GMTs, electoral candidates, and current parliament members.
  2. Any non-GMT member who is included in OT!Eras 2024 can register to be a electoral candidate. The reason why GMTs are NOT included is because they're already part of the gov. So having a GMT be a president would just cause a dictatorship, as no separation of powers between gov and gmt would exist.
  3. Self voting is allowed, as honestly it wouldn't change much, the metagame would be just to not vote if you can't vote for yourself and I don't like that so self-voting allowed everyone votes for themselves it's like we didn't have a vote to begin with.
  4. If you're a GMT but aren’t part of OT!Eras 2024, you can't vote.

Phase One:


During this phase anyone who meets the previous requirements can register to be a presidential candidate. Just write "I register for president" or something along those lines, as long as you properly communicate that you want to be a president it works. If I miss someone please go to my house and scream at me (just tell me in the thread or dms or anywhere)

This phase will last a week. If you missed this phase, you can no longer apply for president, sorry buddy!

Also, to expedite the process of the elections, you already may start privately submitting questions for phase 2 if you wished to do so.

SUBMIT QUESTIONS
READ QUESTIONS

Phase Two:


This is the interview/debate phase. Everyone may submit questions, be it publicly in the phase two thread, or anonymously, by writing the question on a automated google form/sheet that will be linked on the OP. After that, if your question isn't a complete shitpost, it will be added to a list in the phase two thread. Every presidential candidate must answer to every single whitelisted question. Their answers will also be noted in the OP.

The thread last 7 days, however, the period for uploading mandatory questions only last 6. That is because it a question were to be whitelisted last minute there may be people who may not have the chance to answer leading to a dq which would feel pretty bad. You may still ask questions during that last day tho, it's just that if someone doesn’t answer it they won’t be DQed.

Phase Three:


Every eligible voter has 1 vote, most voted candidate wins, everyone who had voted must confirm that they have voted in "OT Presidential Elections 2024 - Third Phase" thread.

Each voter will be provided a unique token after they have voted. Once the results have been announced, a voter may find whom they voted for by their token listed in the voting results.

The voting period will last 7 days


Other general rules


Campaigning and making threads to boost your popularity is allowed. If you're not eligible for voting you may still make threads related to the elections. Debates are allowed.

Buying votes or gaining votes in a unfairly manner will result on a DQ.


The winner of this elections MUST immediately host the parliament elections. They can also just get someone else to do the vote but you get the point it must happen.

________________________


Confirmed Candidates

-Patatitta
-Polyspora
-Scyla
-Igorsprite
-IAMACROBA
-Corne2Plum3
is there a position for vp of the chair of the directors of supervisors of deputies of justices of governors of sherifs of north-east-shire of OT! ? ( VP of TCODOSODOJOFOSONESOOT for short) because I'd like to apply to that
There's parliament elections after president.
If the next president doesn't get rid of it completely that is.
Topic Starter
Patatitta

tepache mapache wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

OT! Elections 2025




Welcome to the yearly OT! Elections, where we decide a new president, all rules and phases of the election will be explained down below.

something else

________________________


What does the president do?


The role of OT!President gives you the ability to push a variety of changes in OT, as long as the GMTs and parliament agree with it. Some examples of actions a president can do is locking/unlocking threads, exiling users, pinning/unpinning threads, etc. You're also given control of certain OT institutions such as denizen.

Who can participate?


  1. Any OT member who is included in OT!Eras 2024 can vote, including GMTs, electoral candidates, and current parliament members.
  2. Any non-GMT member who is included in OT!Eras 2024 can register to be a electoral candidate. The reason why GMTs are NOT included is because they're already part of the gov. So having a GMT be a president would just cause a dictatorship, as no separation of powers between gov and gmt would exist.
  3. Self voting is allowed, as honestly it wouldn't change much, the metagame would be just to not vote if you can't vote for yourself and I don't like that so self-voting allowed everyone votes for themselves it's like we didn't have a vote to begin with.
  4. If you're a GMT but aren’t part of OT!Eras 2024, you can't vote.

Phase One:


During this phase anyone who meets the previous requirements can register to be a presidential candidate. Just write "I register for president" or something along those lines, as long as you properly communicate that you want to be a president it works. If I miss someone please go to my house and scream at me (just tell me in the thread or dms or anywhere)

This phase will last a week. If you missed this phase, you can no longer apply for president, sorry buddy!

Also, to expedite the process of the elections, you already may start privately submitting questions for phase 2 if you wished to do so.

SUBMIT QUESTIONS
READ QUESTIONS

Phase Two:


This is the interview/debate phase. Everyone may submit questions, be it publicly in the phase two thread, or anonymously, by writing the question on a automated google form/sheet that will be linked on the OP. After that, if your question isn't a complete shitpost, it will be added to a list in the phase two thread. Every presidential candidate must answer to every single whitelisted question. Their answers will also be noted in the OP.

The thread last 7 days, however, the period for uploading mandatory questions only last 6. That is because it a question were to be whitelisted last minute there may be people who may not have the chance to answer leading to a dq which would feel pretty bad. You may still ask questions during that last day tho, it's just that if someone doesn’t answer it they won’t be DQed.

Phase Three:


Every eligible voter has 1 vote, most voted candidate wins, everyone who had voted must confirm that they have voted in "OT Presidential Elections 2024 - Third Phase" thread.

Each voter will be provided a unique token after they have voted. Once the results have been announced, a voter may find whom they voted for by their token listed in the voting results.

The voting period will last 7 days


Other general rules


Campaigning and making threads to boost your popularity is allowed. If you're not eligible for voting you may still make threads related to the elections. Debates are allowed.

Buying votes or gaining votes in a unfairly manner will result on a DQ.


The winner of this elections MUST immediately host the parliament elections. They can also just get someone else to do the vote but you get the point it must happen.

________________________


Confirmed Candidates

-Patatitta
-Polyspora
-Scyla
-Igorsprite
-IAMACROBA
-Corne2Plum3
is there a position for vp of the chair of the directors of supervisors of deputies of justices of governors of sherifs of north-east-shire of OT! ? ( VP of TCODOSODOJOFOSONESOOT for short) because I'd like to apply to that
you can apply for parliament elections after this one is done


Polyspora wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Ashton wrote:

I will say that I feel a lot of sympathy for potato.

I think some people have said things that go way beyond the scope of RP, even if it wasn't their intention to do so.

RP just simply isn't fun when people use it as an opportunity to be cruel to one another on a personal level.
At least one has bad intentions.
I don’t think something can be as I’ll intended as rejecting everything we’ve been doing for years only to create your own version of it to your taste.
I've never outright replaced anything, I've worked with the current system as a base, grown on them, and left the originals intact in case someone wanted to restore it even if that were against my interest. I don't think if it was ill intended I would have replaced them. Also, everything was voted either in parliament or in public.
Asian Warlord
so can i still vote or run for president...
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Asian Warlord wrote:

so can i still vote or run for president...
if you are in ot eras 2024, yes
Asian Warlord

Patatitta wrote:

Asian Warlord wrote:

so can i still vote or run for president...
if you are in ot eras 2024, yes
so I cant vote but I can run for president ight bet ill be the candidate

Polyspora
I mean we as abraker and all the past presidents and parliaments who maintained the OFFICIAL hall and did not enforce their own bootleg version of it

Tell me, how many of your voters are active now in OT to see the shit you guys came up with?
Karmine

Polyspora wrote:

I mean we as abraker and all the past presidents and parliaments who maintained the OFFICIAL hall and did not enforce their own bootleg version of it

Tell me, how many of your voters are active now in OT to see the shit you guys came up with?
Bait used to be believable.
chromb
give it to me, I won't do anything 👍
Asian Warlord

chromb wrote:

give it to me, I won't do anything 👍
Karmine

chromb wrote:

give it to me, I won't do anything 👍
Nvm I support GMT participating now.
z0z
came back to see scyla and igorsprite throw their hats into the ring

they're probably not winning
igorsprite

z0z wrote:

came back to see scyla and igorsprite throw their hats into the ring

they're probably not winning
i think we both should join forces
Puck_

igorsprite wrote:

z0z wrote:

came back to see scyla and igorsprite throw their hats into the ring

they're probably not winning
i think we both should join forces
Polyspora

Puck_ wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

z0z wrote:

came back to see scyla and igorsprite throw their hats into the ring

they're probably not winning
i think we both should join forces
Corne2Plum3

Polyspora wrote:

Puck_ wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

z0z wrote:

came back to see scyla and igorsprite throw their hats into the ring

they're probably not winning
i think we both should join forces
z0z

igorsprite wrote:

z0z wrote:

came back to see scyla and igorsprite throw their hats into the ring

they're probably not winning
i think we both should join forces
you and scyla? i think that would make you and scyla even more of a toxic waste barrel
sametdze
fuck it bros im running for president
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