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DeletedUser_2024727

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

I kinda disagree with this bit though:

xch00F wrote:

if you're talking about an album as a collection of songs with an overarching theme, ordered in such a way that tells a kind of sonic story, that gives you an "album experience," then probably not?
I personally find that with OSTs being tied directly to another piece of media, listening to them can really bring up feelings and experiences tied with that media, which the music itself plays no small part in creating in the first place. Especially with story game OSTs, with them being in chronological order it's almost like experiencing the game again but musically, which is a lot more than what I find some more conventional albums do for me. Maybe it's unfair to compare OSTs to standalone albums in this way because the standalone albums don't have the privilege of a supplemental piece of media attached to them though, but I don't think fairness really matters when talking about music in this way.
I agree with you that osts can bring up feelings and experiences tied with that media, but that's kind of my point when making the distinction between osts and music created on its own. if you listen to a soundtrack after enjoying that game, your experience with that soundtrack is pretty much inextricably linked with your experience with the game. I would expect that most people who listen to soundtracks, particularly video game soundtracks, are listening to them after playing the game. the context of the music is informed, in part, by how it's used in the game. the forest temple theme from ocarina of time is fucking incredible and gives me goosebumps every time I hear it, but it will never make me feel anything other than what it felt like stepping into the forest temple for the first time playing it on the n64 as a kid.

I feel most soundtracks are like this, especially when we're talking about rpgs, even if the physical release is ordered in the same way the music shows up in game. the undertale soundtrack is great, but imagine you've never played it. would you get the intended experience of that music just by listening to the soundtrack? almost cerainly not. most of the songs are super short, mostly because they're motifs to be looped in game. if you look at the play counts on spotify, it's pretty clear that people aren't listening to the soundtrack from front to back, they're listening to specific songs, their favorites from the game. and I think that if anyone said they've listened to the undertale soundtrack but didn't play the game, people would call them crazy and tell them they need to play it lol.

there are certainly soundtracks that stand on their own though, don't get me wrong. two of my favorites are the tetrisphere and new tetris soundtracks by neil voss. I've never played either game, probably never will, but the soundtracks unironically have some of the best idm/breakbeat tracks from the late 90s. the minecraft soundtrack is another good example, the game's so open that any context provided to the music from the game is going to be pretty blurry. another really cool quality about it is that it's so heavily influenced by one specific artist. it's hard to recommend music to someone whose favorite song is something like one winged angel without just recommending boss themes from other video games, but if you like the minecraft soundtrack, you really, really, need to listen to music for airports by brian eno.

at the end of the day tho this doesn't really matter since it's all art and your own enjoyment and interpretation of said art is the only thing that does matter. personally if you ask me for my top 10 albums of all time, soundtracks won't be on that list. but if you ask about my top 10 songs of all time, that's a different story.

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

Even though this is just videogame music, I feel like you could show this album to someone who has never played Minecraft but is a music enthusiast, and they'd enjoy the album. Yet, it is the experience of Minecraft that I think makes this album so special. And again, that Minecraft experience has a lot to do with the music on this album.
lmao honestly when I talk to people about ambient music I'll usually recommend the minecraft soundtrack if I can
Farfocele
listen to Celeste's OST
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17th July 2024

moff-P - High Collar Record
Shoegaze, J-Rock, Vocaloid, Japanese, 2012


(Link to the rest of the album. No clue if this is an official upload or not, it's probably not.)

Not much to say about this album, I was just enjoying myself and vibing along with it.

Interestingly, this is probably the most unknown thing I've listened to on this thread so far. The song with the most views in this album playlist was flashback, 0217, and that's probably mostly it's on Mikgazer.

The variety on the album was pretty cool.

My favourite tracks were probably Water room, Water moon (the 6th track) and それでも僕は歌を唄う (the 7th track).

Vocaloid shoegaze gotta be one of my favourite things fr fr

8/10
Patatitta
read title, "vocaloid shoegaze gotta be one of my favourite things fr"

I thought to myself, this must be a 10 then

see review

8/10
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Patatitta wrote:

read title, "vocaloid shoegaze gotta be one of my favourite things fr"

I thought to myself, this must be a 10 then

see review

8/10
👍
Karmine

Patatitta wrote:

read title, "vocaloid shoegaze gotta be one of my favourite things fr"

I thought to myself, this must be a 10 then

see review

8/10
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18th July 2024

Radiohead - Pablo Honey
Grunge, Alt-Rock, British, 1993


(Link to the rest of the album)

After OK Computer, I've decided listen to a bunch more Radiohead albums. And I thought that if I were going to end up listening to all of them, why not go in chronological order. So this is Radiohead's first studio album, Pablo Honey.

It was interesting to see how different this was compared to OK Computer. Compared to whatever they were doing in OK Computer, this album feels a lot more straightforward and conventional. I was kinda taken aback at how straightforward and cheery/energetic some of these songs were lol. Like did these guys really go on to make OK Computer? That's some crazy character development.

I honestly didn't enjoy this album as much as OK Computer. While OK Computer feels like a really special album, this one was just enjoyable to listen to, but nothing special. Outside of the first two and last two tracks which I really liked, I honestly didn't feel much for the rest of the tracks.

Uhh I honestly don't have much more to say, expect more Radiohead albums in the future I guess.

7/10

I'm actually so hyped for Camellia tomorrow
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DM FOR MUTUAL
Didn't get to finish the camellia album today, I really want to watch Akolibed's stream now

EPic album thoguh
ClevelandsMyBro

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

I really want to watch Akolibed's stream now
i've sat here trying to log on to my twitch account for the past hour because the 2fa code wont send to my phone and apparently they use authy or whatever the fuck so now i made a new authy account but apparently twitch already made one for you which i dont even know about and now im sat here hearing hitsounds and occasional russian mumbling in the background not knowing what to do.
MangaGrumpy
i put in Gorillaz - Gorillaz (2001)
Corne2Plum3

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

Didn't get to finish the camellia album today, I really want to watch Akolibed's stream now

EPic album thoguh
+2 pp
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19th July 2024 (20th now because of Akolibed)

Camellia - U.U.F.O.
Hardcore, Japanese, 2021



(This was literally me for 2 whole hours split into two sessions, I'm surprised I don't have a headache)

Holy moly

As many of you probably have, I found Camellia through osu, and have enjoyed many of their songs to the point I will occasionally seek them out to listen to them. However, this was the first time I've ever listened to a full Camellia album.

At two hours long, this is by far the longest album I've listened to on this thread, the rest all being around one hours long. I was pretty intimidated and apprehensive about the length at first, but the album was so rich and full that I was never bored. Maybe the fact that I listened to this album over two different sessions helped as well. I think this was also the first time I've ever stopped listening to an album halfway through and picked up where I left off later. In the future, I'd like to avoid doing this though, I think there would probably be albums where doing this could lessen the experience for me, though this album wasn't one of them.

What really stood out about this album was how whimsical and fun it was. Each track played with it's own, unique, fun idea which you could tell from the title, and they all sounded like Camellia was just having fun exploring all these different ideas. To a song incorporating Russian bass, to a song exploring an alien jungle dance party, to a literal osu meme song and a "furrycore" song, the one thematic throughline through all of this madness was that every track was a fun, mad adventure, and I guess like aliens and other mysterious stuff. It was also really cool to see Camellia really able to capture the vibe of whatever unique ideas they were playing around with.

Adding onto that, there was an incredible amount of variety of this album. It was two hours long, but throughout these two hours Camellia somehow manages to explore like every single fast paced EDM genre in existence, and put his unique Camellia spin on it, a big reason why this album felt so full and never boring.

Another thing that really stood out was the amount of detail that you could gleam and things to engage with as a listener. I feel like a lot of the best music has this aspect, where you kind of cognitively engage with the music instead of just vibing along. Well Camellia isn't exactly Kendrick Lamar or Dvorak in this regard, I found myself having a lot of fun finding details in Camellia's music, from what exactly he did to play with certain ideas/genres, to how tracks 22 and 23 felt like spiritual successors or at least took inspiration from Exit this Earth's Atomosphere and GHOST respectively, two of Camellia's previous tracks, to how you could hear the Toby Fox influence in Myths You Forgot as well as the specific contributions of the other artists featured (the lineup was crazy, he got BTMC to do some vocals? And 8bitdrummer on the drums?), to all of the little sounds making references to certain things, especially in WYSI, and even to a little bit of Chopin's Fantaisie-Impromptu in Electromagnetic Stealth Girl Born In Philadelphia (although I may be tripping about this one).

And tying all this together is the fact that Camellia is incredible at composing music. From the highs and lows of the music, to how he plays with different musical ideas, to how he keeps the whole song fresh and changing, to the detail of the instrumentation, to how everything in the song builds up to the patented "Camellia" drop at the end which makes me literally forget that anything else exists, it's all so good.

Yeah uh I liked this album a lot.

9/10

Btw I'm not exactly and EDM expert so I had trouble with what to put as the genre of this album. It also didn't help that Camellia basically listed a different genre for each track. In the end I settled on "J-Core", because looking at other J-Core artists you see artist like T+Pazolite, REDALiCE, LAaur, Kobaryo etc, super rhythm gamey EDM artists that I feel like Camellia would fit into for generalisation purposes. Please enlighten me if this in incorrect or if there's a better way to label this album than just "EDM".

Edit: Changed to "Hardcore".

And I think that this album fully cements the fact that I want to explore more J-Core in the future. I've listened to so much of it just playing osu, and I'm ready to take that next step as an osu gamer.
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DM FOR MUTUAL

MaxIsABigKaiju wrote:

i put in Gorillaz - Gorillaz (2001)
I already added it to the list
Karmine
Instead of J-core I'd just call it hardcore, it's less specific.
Banger btw.
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DM FOR MUTUAL
I wonder if miku being in one of the tracks is enough to summon marco
Patatitta
honestly i'm mixed on camellia, from time to time they release a song that IS peak but their average song quality is not that good?, I did try to listen to that album before when it came out, but I just didn't really get into it, in terms of hardcore EDM/osu songs, I much prefeer kobaryo
Karmine

Patatitta wrote:

honestly i'm mixed on camellia, from time to time they release that IS peak but their average song quality is not that good?, I did try to listen to that album before when it came out, but I just didn't really get into it, in terms of hardcore EDM/osu songs, I much prefeer kobaryo
Yeah he releases a lot of stuff, most is mid and some great.
Kobaryo is amazing.
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20th July 2024 (2 today because I want to catch up from skipping yesterday)

Lamp - 恋​人​へ (For Lovers)
Shibuya-Kei, Japanese, 2004


(Link to the rest of the album)

This album makes me simultaneously feel like I'm in love we've just started dating and everything is peachy, and depressed because I've never been in a relationship before.

9/10
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DM FOR MUTUAL

Karmine wrote:

Instead of J-core I'd just call it hardcore, it's less specific.
Banger btw.
Would you also say the other rhythm game edm artists fall into the same genre?
Karmine

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Instead of J-core I'd just call it hardcore, it's less specific.
Banger btw.
Would you also say the other rhythm game edm artists fall into the same genre?
Depends which but in general yeah, there's speedcore, jcore, gabber etc. All can be grouped under the hardcore umbrella.
Some don't really do that (like tomosuke) but then there's other genres that would describe whatever they do.

EDM also works but it's so vague it encompasses basically everything so not exactly useful.
Corne2Plum3
imo I would just label Camellia's U.U.F.O album as EDM, given the large amount of genres covered. For example I don't think the hardbass one could fit in "J-core"
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DM FOR MUTUAL

Karmine wrote:

EDM also works but it's so vague it encompasses basically everything so not exactly useful.
Yeah that's why I didn't want to label it as EDM, because it feels like labelling every rock album I've listened to as "rock". I feel like I'd want to be more specific than that.

Maybe I could say that it's "various EDM genres" and not include it as a genre for my favourite albums of each genre.
DeletedUser_2024727
edm is accurate as like a collective genre label for something like a camellia album where all of the tracks can vary wildly between them and within themselves, you might have one track that's mostly dnb, or hardcore, or some kinda -step. they're basically compilations. I think j-core is useful in the same way, I like to use j-core to describe edm that sounds like it should be in a rhythm game. rhythm gaming has been the primary influence on how j-core has evolved over the years, and this is kinda uniquely japanese, or at least has been for a while. obviously some j-core artists make hardcore tracks but these are very very different forms of hardcore when compared to the more european styles of hardcore like the outside agency or obsidian

Patatitta wrote:

honestly i'm mixed on camellia, from time to time they release a song that IS peak but their average song quality is not that good?, I did try to listen to that album before when it came out, but I just didn't really get into it, in terms of hardcore EDM/osu songs, I much prefeer kobaryo
it's insane to me that his albums audibly clip on spotify/bandcamp, he's pretty awful generally imo. kobaryo rips, big fan of t+paz too. I don't listen to j-core all that often but if/when I do, it's usually to check out a new kobaryo or t+paz album
MangaGrumpy

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

MaxIsABigKaiju wrote:

i put in Gorillaz - Gorillaz (2001)
I already added it to the list
Oh
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This isn't an album but I'll give my thoughts on it

porejiikt - い自分を 守-


It was pretty cool sounding, especially after 2:55 with the volume turned way up. Outside of that it didn't really feel like the track had that much to offer. It was pretty samey throughout it's entire runtime, and it also didn't really feel like it really went anywhere or did anything interesting. Although I could definitely tell there was some effort in this department, it wasn't enough, and it could've definitely been composed better in that sense maybe idk.

6/10
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21st July 2024

MALIKLIYA - 誄:Condolence
Prog Metal, Japanese, 2019


(Link to the rest of the album)

Don't have too much to say about this, it was pretty epic.

This album kinda reminded me of Ne Obliviscaris. Not just with the songs like 葬:Burial, but in how the songs seemingly went and did whatever they wanted without adhering to much, and how the melodic parts felt like it was written more as formality to whatever was going on a lot of the time instead of the star.

Also not sure how it never occurred to me how shoegaze guitars would fit really well with this style of metal even though in my head I put them in the same category of "loud sound music".

7/10

I feel like this album is kinda in a weird spot because I don't like it as much as the 8/10s but I like it more than the 7/10s

(Note from the future: It was bothering me enough that it spawned it's own tier.)
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DM FOR MUTUAL
What do you guys think of me splitting the 9/10s into two separate tiers and shifting everything else down one? Not sure if I'll ever use the 4/10 or 1/10 rating with my current rating system.

Like this:


9/10 is empty until 10/10 fills up and stuff gets shoved down

Edit: Actually you know what I don't care about opinions anymore I like this

New rating scale:
10 - My top 10 favourite albums
9 - I liked it nearly as much as a 10/10 but unfortunately it lands outside my top 10 favourite albums
8 - One of my favourites, I want to listen to it again and again, but not a 10/10 or a 9/10
7 - It was pretty epic and I liked the whole album, but not as much as a 8/10. I'm still very interested in checking out the artist's other works
6 - It was kinda epic, but I didn't like it as much as an 7/10 nor do I feel like checking out the artist other works
5 - It was cool, still enjoyed it
4 - It was forgettable and left no impression but I ultimately still enjoyed it
3 - It left a slightly sour taste in my mouth
2 - I have a straight up negative impression of this
1 - My top 5 least favourite albums
Kaaruumii
aireus latest song is booger banger my ladies go listyen now

Aireunaeus

Kaaruumii wrote:

aireus latest song is booger banger my ladies go listyen now

Lmaoooooo
Patatitta
man your rating structure is weird, for me

7/10 is mid, something you would listen to, enjoy it, but maybe not come back to it, it's mediocre

below 5 is you couldn't finish it and if you did it was only because it was that short

top 10 is just peak, no need for it to be a top 10 or whatever, just peak



the rest, you can figure out with those refence points
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DM FOR MUTUAL

Patatitta wrote:

man your rating structure is weird, for me

7/10 is mid, something you would listen to, enjoy it, but maybe not come back to it, it's mediocre

below 5 is you couldn't finish it and if you did it was only because it was that short

top 10 is just peak, no need for it to be a top 10 or whatever, just peak



the rest, you can figure out with those refence points
yeah the 10/10 and 9/10 thing is weird but I've been rating other media similarly for a while

7/10 has always been decent, mid has always been like 4-6 for me. I think it's definitely shifted down from how I usually rate though, but because I have the entire scale from 1-10, I'm gonna use all of it.
lostsilver
you can deny this one if you want but can you do you get what you give - zac brown band?
sorry if i'm requesting alot
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lostsilver wrote:

you can deny this one if you want but can you do you get what you give - zac brown band?
sorry if i'm requesting alot
dw if it's an artist that I haven't listened to before and you aren't doing like 10 requests then I'll probably listen to it
z0z
wac - ongaku
Dilly_P
Preacher’s Daughter - Ethel Cain
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22st July 2024

9mice - ASPHALT
Russian Hip-Hop, Russian, 2023


(Link to the rest of the album)

In order to honour the new rank 1 osu standard player 9MlCE, I decided to listen to a 9mice album.

I didn't know where to start so I just listened to the one that was the highest rated on rateyourmusic.

And uhhhh yeah this is the first time I'm not gonna finish an album.

I can't get into it at all when I try to give it my full attention, it sounds so goofy.

Maybe 9mice is a lyrical genius but I can't tell because I don't speak Russian.

If someone convinces me whatever is going on in this album is actually epic and worth listening to I will give it another listen, maybe this is just an acquired taste I need to get used to.

3/10

Edit: I finished the album while browsing reddit, it was fine as background noise. Maybe through exposure I can upgrade this to a 4
Kobold84
IOSYS - ワァオ! ハイパー電波チャン
DeletedUser_2024727
seconding iosys, BANGER album
lostsilver

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

lostsilver wrote:

you can deny this one if you want but can you do you get what you give - zac brown band?
sorry if i'm requesting alot
dw if it's an artist that I haven't listened to before and you aren't doing like 10 requests then I'll probably listen to it
ok! thx for the info ^^
Polyspora
ok so am I supposed to recommend an album or song?
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DM FOR MUTUAL

Polyspora wrote:

ok so am I supposed to recommend an album or song?
albums




I'm wondering if in terms of audio quality there's something better I can do than just watching random youtube videos using a random pair of earphones that I'm not sure where I got but sound better than the samsung ones that come with your phone

Is it even worth bothering looking into this audiophile stuff?
Karmine

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

ok so am I supposed to recommend an album or song?
albums




I'm wondering if in terms of audio quality there's something better I can do than just watching random youtube videos using a random pair of earphones that I'm not sure where I got but sound better than the samsung ones that come with your phone

Is it even worth bothering looking into this audiophile stuff?
It's probably fine as long as the audio isn't trash quality, even cheap earphones from known brands are decent nowadays.
Quality of the audio file is the easiest you can act on and costs nothing, there's no point having good audio equipment if you listen to 96kbps mp3 files.
reffty_gag
xi - Parousia
z0z

z0z wrote:

wac - ongaku
Karmine

reffty_gag wrote:

xi - Parousia
Banger.
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23st July 2024

The Weeknd - After Hours
R&B, American, 2020


(Link to the rest of the album)

Is the weeknd ok

6/10
z0z
was about to ask where the queue was but damn it's long
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24st July 2024

Kendrick Lamar - Good Kid, M.A.A.D City
Rap, American, 2012


(Link to the rest of the album)

I was wanting to give Kendrick Lamar another shot after relistening to some of the tracks on To Pimp a Butterfly (TPAB) and enjoying them a lot more than my first listen, so I chose to listen to his other giga critically acclaimed album, Good Kid, M.A.A.D City (GKMC).

Through exposure I definitely feel like I've gotten a lot better feel for rap, to the point where I really enjoyed the tracks on this album. It's not one of my favourite genres or anything, but it's now something that I can happily listen to and appreciate. As songs from just the sound alone (ignoring the lyrics), I particularly enjoyed Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe, Poetic Justice and Good Kid.

Compared to TPAB, one thing I did differently while I was listening to this album was I didn't look up the lyrics at all, and instead just listened to the music. I was worried about the lyrics being harder to understand this way, but I thought it would allow me to better appreciate the music, as well as have a more proper experience of what story the album was wanting to tell and what it wanted me to feel. And I thought whatever happens it would at least be an interesting experience since with TPAB I was extremely reliant on reading along with the lyrics.

And I think it did help me appreciate the music more, but that might have also been because I've been coming onto rap/hip-hop in general. Another thing was that I was quite surprised how much of the lyrics I could make out, I thought it would be a lot less because usually I'm really bad at hearing what people say when they speak especially if there's other noise going on. Although it was still a lot less than when I was actually reading the lyrics alongside the music, especially when I lost focus (I was kinda tired while listening to this). Although I wasn't able to catch everything, I was still able to follow along somewhat with the narrative aspects of this album.

And yeah this album has a narrative aspect as well, so spoiler warning I guess.
Unlike TPAB where the narrative aspects are fairly straightforward, GKMC has a non-linear narrative, meaning that the tracks are out of chronological order. I think this confused me a little bit while I was listening to the album because I felt like I didn't have a good grasp of what was going on. I only learnt of the non-linear structure of the narrative upon looking it up later, where things made sense.

Personally I think this kinda works to the detriment of the album, because while it's clear that there is some sort of narrative going on, you can't fully understand it unless you've looked into it afterwards, which creates a kind of barrier that you can't really get past to fully immerse yourself. Apparently Kendrick chose this non-linear structure to really get listeners to dig into his lyrics and piece things together themselves, but for someone like me who just wants to listen to the music and maybe experience a story in the moment and is going to do research later by reading what other people have found, I would've preferred it to be more straightforward so it would've been more accessible to me on an initial listen.

However, what I will say is that even with the chronology of the story out of order, the tracks flow really well thematically. It feels like a coming of age story. Kendrick starts off as a "sinful" teenager happily engaging with the bad parts of the "maad city", and things start becoming more reflective and dark in where we are more directly confronted with all the bad things about this life. The climax of the album is the end of Swimming Pools (Drank) and the first half of Sing About Me, I'm Dying of Thirst where Kendrick comes face to face with death with a guy getting shot. The second half of Sing About Me, I'm Dying of Thirst, Real is the turning point, with Kendrick (and his homies) maturing in the wake of this event, through his family and God, and learning to love himself in Real. Finally the last track is an pretty cool closer, where it feels like Kendrick says that even through all the messed up things he still loves his city ultimately. Or at least this is what I gathered from listening to the album and doing some research on the tracks.

I also have to mention that the music helped with capturing these things beautifully. Shoutouts to Backseat Freestyle and Swimming Pools (Drank).

I think overall I enjoyed the narrative aspect of TPAB significantly more than this. TPAB felt like a good movie that you'd think about a lot even after you've finished watching it, while GKMC felt just kinda cool. Not only was the narrative of TPAB a lot more digestible, but to me the ideas were a lot more interesting as well. And it's not like GKMC didn't have it's moments, but nothing reached the sheer emotion of u or the interestingness (for lack of a better word, I aint Kendrick lol) Mortal Man and the fake interview with Tupac. I'm sure that GKMC would be incredibly interesting to take a deep dive into, but it wasn't that interesting when I listening to it for the first time.

And purely musically, I think I like TPAB slightly better, but this is subject to change.

I'd take everything in the last two paragraphs with a grain of salt though, because I listened to both albums in different ways and with different context.

Overall, I'd definitely say I've become a rap enjoyer, thanks Kendrick. I'll probably check out his other albums too.

6/10

4 extra things:

1. With the weights finally lifted from TPAB, it has now risen to 10/10, and then prematurely downgraded to 9/10 because it's probably the first 10/10 I downgrade because it's the one I like the least musically.
2. There's no way I can put this in the same tier as After Hours by The Weeknd. I was thinking the same thing for 誄:Condolence by MALIKLIYA, so they get the 6/10 tier all to themselves with everything being shifted down once again. Taylor Swift keeps taking strays, I'm sorry Taylor 😭
3. It's crazy how much my rating scale is shifting downwards, at the rate this is going I might need to have increments of 0.5 instead of 1.0.
4. I'll update other stuff tomorrow because I want to sleep and need to do my gacha game dailies
Kaaruumii
50 Cent - The Massacre
DeletedUser_2024727
cool that you're introducing yourself to rap, there's a lot of good stuff out there that either subverts or critiques the stereotypical topics of drugs, gang violence etc etc and ppl write it off without looking for it
with that said tho seeing gkmc rated a 6/10 is wild lmao. your opinion of course and it's very interesting to see that rating
I still havent listened to mr morale yet, I've heard that one is particularly heavy. damn is probably his weakest album

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

ok so am I supposed to recommend an album or song?
albums




I'm wondering if in terms of audio quality there's something better I can do than just watching random youtube videos using a random pair of earphones that I'm not sure where I got but sound better than the samsung ones that come with your phone

Is it even worth bothering looking into this audiophile stuff?
definitely but beyond a certain point you get diminishing returns and it quickly stops being worth it. also a lot of good headphones are more neutral so if you're used to the garbo stuff like skull candies, those are heavy on the bass, partially to draw attention away from blemishes in the mid and higher ends. I have this dac and these headphones and that's basically all I need. karmine is correct about bitrate stuff, if you're listen to low quality audio like that it just makes the audio compression artifacts sound a little more hi-fi lol.
Winnyace

xch00F wrote:

I still havent listened to mr morale yet, I've heard that one is particularly heavy. damn is probably his weakest album
Yeah, it is very personal. DAMN seems to be considered among his weakest albums by hardcore K.Dot fans, mostly because from what I've listened to it, it sounds more commercial than TPAB and is more aggressive and that's about it. Either way, DAMN is great if you want a certain vibe, that being of aggressiveness, and still listen to someone who can write some damn good verses and flows.

Also, yeah, rap is multifaceted and you can find anything from jazz infused albums talking about the artist's problems or things they see around themselves, to the "I'm the best person alive and you're a bitch" type rappers. There's a spectrum, much like how in Pop and other genres there's a spectrum of topics, themes and sounds.
Winnyace
I can't wait to see what OP thinks of Samurai, since a concept rap album.
Polyspora
Stranger - Yung Lean

literally life changing
Patatitta
we respect people with unpopular opinions
Karmine
Gotta request Magma - Kobaïa
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xch00F wrote:

with that said tho seeing gkmc rated a 6/10 is wild lmao. your opinion of course and it's very interesting to see that rating
Yeah I feel like it'd be an unconventional opinion to have TPAB and GKMC rated pretty differently, I feel like most people would like or dislike both equally. It's just that for whatever reason I wasn't feeling GKMC as much, might literally just be because of something minor like the fact that I didn't do research beforehand, didn't read along with the lyrics, or simply listened to it after TPAB.




xch00F wrote:

karmine is correct about bitrate stuff, if you're listen to low quality audio like that it just makes the audio compression artifacts sound a little more hi-fi lol.
I'm just listening to everything on Youtube, so I guess I'm at the mercy of the uploader and Youtube's audio compression. Would an upgrade to Qobuz or Tidal which apparently has better quality be worth it? Price isn't that much of an issue because I was thinking that I might get Youtube Premium, I'm wanting a good way to listen to music on my phone without a gazillion ads or having to download everything.




Also I shifted my rating scale for the billionth time, basically I fused the 7s and 8s together and split the 6s into two.
reffty_gag
goreshit - semantic of death and its meaning
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25th July 2024 (it took 4 days to realise I was going 22st, 23st, 24st lmao)

Stray Kids - 5-Star
K-Pop, South Korean, 2023


(Link to the rest of the album)

I've never really been a fan of K-Pop, and this album didn't really change that.

It was cool and I enjoyed it, but I didn't really get into it if that makes sense.

One of the reasons that I might not have enjoyed this album that much is that I'm still not fully sold on hip-hop musically as a genre (this album had a very strong hip-hop influence in the first half), and unlike with Kendrick Lamar, the literary aspect couldn't carry the music because my Korean isn't good enough to understand the lyrics.

I don't think this is that relevant though, because starting from track 8 Collision, the album strays away from the super sharp, biting hip-hop that it was before. Collision sounded more like a typical k-pop track, to the point that the overwhelming vibe that I got form it was that I was in a Korean hairdresser because this is the stuff they always play on the speakers lmao. These variations in style was welcome, but it didn't really change the fact that I still wasn't fully into it.

I think another reason for why I wasn't fully into it could be that I think with k-pop there's quite a lot of other aspects to it outside of just the music, which are stuff that I personally didn't engage with or care about. I feel like the dancing and the aesthetic appeal of the members of the group are a big part of k-pop, but I personally avoided watching the music videos while listening to this album because I had done so with every other album I've listened to. And it's not like I really care about them much in the first place. I think there's also an aspect of idol culture where you'd follow the group members as celebreties/idols, but again, this is something that I don't care about at all. With me being so far removed from the culture of k-pop, I feel like I'm really not the target audience for this type of stuff, which made it harder to enjoy.

And a final realisation that I came to was that to me it felt like the music lacked personality. It didn't really feel like an artist expressing themselves through their music, but something corporately produced, if that makes sense. I could be completely speaking out of my ass about this, idk how these tracks are written nor did I pay attention to any of the lyrics, but that was the impression I got from this album. Like the production was cool, but it didn't really feel like there was anything I could attach myself to.

In fact, while I was listening to the album I was enjoying it to the point I was thinking it would be a 5 or a 6, but now that I've finished it, it feels like a 4 because it didn't really feel like I got anything out of it.

So yeah idk I guess k-pop just isn't something I can really get into. I really liked the rocky Dreamcatcher songs that I've come across while playing osu, but that's pretty much the only k-pop that I've really enjoyed, and it's probably more to do with the fact I generally really enjoy j-rock.

I also wanted to mention that S-Class was my favourite track.

4/10
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me going on rateyourmusic every time I rate an album because I don't want give something critically acclaimed a low rating, only to see that rateyourmusic didn't rate it highly as well:



(I should really stop)
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DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

25th July 2024 (it took 4 days to realise I was going 22st, 23st, 24st lmao)

Stray Kids - 5-Star
K-Pop, South Korean, 2023


(Link to the rest of the album)

I've never really been a fan of K-Pop, and this album didn't really change that.

It was cool and I enjoyed it, but I didn't really get into it if that makes sense.

One of the reasons that I might not have enjoyed this album that much is that I'm still not fully sold on hip-hop musically as a genre (this album had a very strong hip-hop influence in the first half), and unlike with Kendrick Lamar, the literary aspect couldn't carry the music because my Korean isn't good enough to understand the lyrics.

I don't think this is that relevant though, because starting from track 8 Collision, the album strays away from the super sharp, biting hip-hop that it was before. Collision sounded more like a typical k-pop track, to the point that the overwhelming vibe that I got form it was that I was in a Korean hairdresser because this is the stuff they always play on the speakers lmao. These variations in style was welcome, but it didn't really change the fact that I still wasn't fully into it.

I think another reason for why I wasn't fully into it could be that I think with k-pop there's quite a lot of other aspects to it outside of just the music, which are stuff that I personally didn't engage with or care about. I feel like the dancing and the aesthetic appeal of the members of the group are a big part of k-pop, but I personally avoided watching the music videos while listening to this album because I had done so with every other album I've listened to. And it's not like I really care about them much in the first place. I think there's also an aspect of idol culture where you'd follow the group members as celebreties/idols, but again, this is something that I don't care about at all. With me being so far removed from the culture of k-pop, I feel like I'm really not the target audience for this type of stuff, which made it harder to enjoy.

And a final realisation that I came to was that to me it felt like the music lacked personality. It didn't really feel like an artist expressing themselves through their music, but something corporately produced, if that makes sense. I could be completely speaking out of my ass about this, idk how these tracks are written nor did I pay attention to any of the lyrics, but that was the impression I got from this album. Like the production was cool, but it didn't really feel like there was anything I could attach myself to.

In fact, while I was listening to the album I was enjoying it to the point I was thinking it would be a 5 or a 6, but now that I've finished it, it feels like a 4 because it didn't really feel like I got anything out of it.

So yeah idk I guess k-pop just isn't something I can really get into. I really liked the rocky Dreamcatcher songs that I've come across while playing osu, but that's pretty much the only k-pop that I've really enjoyed, and it's probably more to do with the fact I generally really enjoy j-rock.

I also wanted to mention that S-Class was my favourite track.

4/10
Pretty solid review, i can understand why you gave this album a 4/10 (i actually think thats quite generous for someone who isn't familiar w kpop lol). Stray Kids' music isnt for everyone, quite a lot of kpop fans aren't actually fond of their music as well. I also understand why you'd also pay attention to lyrics, but i personally pay attention to the music itself more than the lyrics.

As for the tracks (excluding the last 2 tracks as those were originally released as singles), I personally enjoyed this album, especially the 8th track Collision (i could talk abt this for 50 pages but yea), the instrumentals were amazing and the details really suits the lyrics of the songs. The vocal parts for the first track Hall Of Fame was pretty enjoyable for me too. A fan favorite for this album, TOPLINE was quite a surprise as it sounds more western-like compared to what we have in the industry so far.

I was actually kinda hoping you'd have a good impression on this genre considering the first half of the album sounds pretty kpop-y, especially with the more "loud music" side of the industry (and yes, Collision doesn't really sound kpop-y, at least to me) but recommending something from Stray Kids was probably a hit or miss for first impressions of kpop lmao.

a small note here, i actually dont like S-Class :3c (i actually hated it at first, but it somewhat grew in me).

I'm not a fan of hip-hop or rap in general, but Stray Kids' rap line is pretty strong, combined with 3RACHA's (Stray Kids' producer line consisting of the members Bang Chan, Changbin and Han) weird style of music made Stray Kids' music stick well to me a lot.

Overall, for me it's a 8/10 (excluding the last 2 tracks), I tried my best to be as unbiased as possible and this rating is also based of the music itself and not counting other shit within the kpop industry :) glad i was able to hear your opinion!
Patatitta

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

me going on rateyourmusic every time I rate an album because I don't want give something critically acclaimed a low rating, only to see that rateyourmusic didn't rate it highly as well:



(I should really stop)
don't worry, the exact same thing happens to me LMAO, still. I don't really change my rating even if it's totally different than the rating on those type of websites, I just kinda go "well, fuck"
Achromalia

Patatitta wrote:

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

me going on rateyourmusic every time I rate an album because I don't want give something critically acclaimed a low rating, only to see that rateyourmusic didn't rate it highly as well:



(I should really stop)
don't worry, the exact same thing happens to me LMAO, still. I don't really change my rating even if it's totally different than the rating on those type of websites, I just kinda go "well, fuck"
i think sometimes it could register as a feeling of "i hope i'm not insane for thinking this" and "am i missing the point?", mixed somewhat with possibilities like "i'm curious if anyone shares similar thoughts for similar reasons, maybe they could expand on what the impressions i've had in an interesting way with more clarity" or something...

...maybe? that's my intuitive reasoning for why i might imagine it happening for me if i were to try rating albums/songs, though i generally don't refer to these sites bc that's just a lot more work than i care for when i can just enjoy playlists of music i like or at least sort them somewhere if they're not definitively suited to a playlist of favored songs/albums within some kind of stylistic profile
Kaeya x Diluc
my picks are:

Denzel Curry - King of the Mischievous South Vol. 2
Taylor Swift - Speak Now (Taylor's Version)
Chevy & HOYO-MiX - Inside EP


bonus non album pick:
Sliva Hound - boo Hoo (Silva Hound Remix)
Corne2Plum3
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Kaeya x Diluc wrote:

Taylor Swift - Speak Now (Taylor's Version)
I was about to reject this but I'm a swiftie now so I can't 😭



Kaeya x Diluc wrote:

bonus non album pick:
Sliva Hound - boo Hoo (Silva Hound Remix)

This was a lot more pleasant than I thought it would be from the thumbnail

4/10
sametdze
if you're really a swifite review taylor swift's first album, appropriately titled "taylor swift" or something like that
reffty_gag

reffty_gag wrote:

goreshit - semantic of death and its meaning
*semantic composition on death and its meaning
Patatitta

Achromalia wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

me going on rateyourmusic every time I rate an album because I don't want give something critically acclaimed a low rating, only to see that rateyourmusic didn't rate it highly as well:



(I should really stop)
don't worry, the exact same thing happens to me LMAO, still. I don't really change my rating even if it's totally different than the rating on those type of websites, I just kinda go "well, fuck"
i think sometimes it could register as a feeling of "i hope i'm not insane for thinking this" and "am i missing the point?", mixed somewhat with possibilities like "i'm curious if anyone shares similar thoughts for similar reasons, maybe they could expand on what the impressions i've had in an interesting way with more clarity" or something...

...maybe? that's my intuitive reasoning for why i might imagine it happening for me if i were to try rating albums/songs, though i generally don't refer to these sites bc that's just a lot more work than i care for when i can just enjoy playlists of music i like or at least sort them somewhere if they're not definitively suited to a playlist of favored songs/albums within some kind of stylistic profile
my personal experience with that sort of stuff

I'm just a REALLY big fan of lists like that and ratings, I know many people that are against logging sites like that one under the argument that numeric scoring of art is detrimental to the medium, which I understand but I also disagree with since I believe that it's a really good way to get what is the general opinion torwards any work (as long as the sample size is big enough, something that rym kinda struggles with tho), and also, I love just seeing the list and comparing and analyzing ratings it's so fun

going contrary to works as influential and popular as some of best rated albums of all time kinda sucks, you're forming an opinion a lot of people will criticize, that also forms the anxiety of "maybe I'm missing something/I did not understand what it was trying to say and it's a mitake on me" and also it honestly kinda closes off genres for you, for example, if you were to watch a film, don't like it, and then google it and see that it has bad ratings, that's ok, it's just a bad movie, but if that same movie is like the highest rated work in a genre you haven't really dabled much in, it's likely that you're not going to enjoy the rest of the genre either

although, if you have an unpopular opinion like that, and are able to actually stand your ground and be able to explain properly why you didn't like it in a way that makes sense, I have big respects for you
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26th July 2024

Various Artists - Mikgazer vol.1
Shoegaze, Vocaloid, Japanese, 2012


Mikgazer my beloved

8/10
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sametdze wrote:

if you're really a swifite review taylor swift's first album, appropriately titled "taylor swift" or something like that
I'm gonna end up doing every taylor swift album aren't I
Kaeya x Diluc
Linkin Park - Meteora, Minutes to Midnight
Achromalia
realizing new suggestions in this thread are going to be in the queue for longer than a month, assuming that the rate is strictly one album per day... :'(
z0z

Achromalia wrote:

realizing new suggestions in this thread are going to be in the queue for longer than a month, assuming that the rate is strictly one album per day... :'(
albums do take a significant amount of time to listen to
Achromalia

z0z wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

realizing new suggestions in this thread are going to be in the queue for longer than a month, assuming that the rate is strictly one album per day... :'(
albums do take a significant amount of time to listen to
no you're right, that's understandable, it's just a grievance toward the delayed gratification of actually seeing what someone thinks about the music you've submitted. it may become harder to really remain interested or keep in touch with the thread by the time the 36th day arrives, at which point you may have moved on or may not even be present/active anymore to see it

it's inconvenient for new submissions, but i imagine it could be quite a burden on the listener if the thread's premise is carried like an obligation rather than an interest-- and even with interest in others' submissions, it could be exhausting or time-intensive when you may have other priorities to address

that does not keep it from being something lamentable to the submitter ^^;;
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27th July 2024

samlrc - A Lonely Sinner
Post-Rock, Brazilian, 2024


Holy moly

I've never listened to anything like this before, and damn.

I'm not even sure how to smoothly talk about this lol.

I think if I had to describe it briefly, it would be the musical equivalent of a short, artsy indie game which feels kinda lifechanging when you finish it.

I'm not too sure what the album was about, but my interpretation was that it's about I guess a journey of one's self told through the metaphor of sheep and wolves and some religious ideas.

The protagonist starts in a place of low self esteem and hatred referring themselves as a "sheep" and a "sinner", although it's never made clear exactly how they are a "sinner", making it feel like it is coming more of an internal place than they committed murder or something. The way they talk about themselves as a sheep makes it feel like they're someone insignificant, someone weak who doesn't have agency and can be taken advantage of.

Now that I look at the lyrics again the third track Sinner looks like it's depicting an abusive relationship, so these negative ways the protagonist describes themselves is probably due to this.

After lying down and giving up in Flowerfields as a sacrifice to the wolves, the album has an insane tone shift with Storge, my favourite track in the album. Like I actually shit my pants when this happened, this might be the first time I felt scared listening to an album in this thread lol. Storge feels like the protagonist suddenly flipping a switch getting angry, refusing to be a sheep and wanting to become a wolf themselves. What's interesting is that this isn't empowering, just angry and aggressive, like the protagonist is crying out at the world.

Sleep Theme feels like the abuser trying to control the protagonist to prevent them from running. A small detail that I wanted to mention here is that the vocals are done stylistically differently to when the "sheep" was speaking, making this feel like another person.

Then the last two tracks have a more positive, uplifting vibe, like the hope at the end tunnel of the abuse and negativity and hate, like the protagonist has learnt self-love/self-acceptance. Interestingly, For M. has lyrics written down that I don't remember ever being sung, so idk what that's about.

But what really elevates this album is the music. It's so packed full of different emotions, you can just close your eyes and kinda feel this album. And the way the songs are written it's like they're telling stories within themselves. The singing portions only make up a miniscule portion of the songs, so most of it is just music to which you can let wash over you to bathe in the emotions, and make your own interpretations of.

For an example I want to talk about a moment in Storge in particular, at 33:02 there's this really aggressive moment with loud metal guitars, which at the same time feels like anger and claustrophobia, like this anger is something to be scared of. And then it changes into something else, still the same drumbeat and similar guitars but more shoegazy this time, which feels like an explosion of vulnerable emotion, like the anger ran out and now the protagonist is just crying out with pure emotion, like this is the true nature of the anger that the protagonist is feeling.

It feels rare when you can just close your eyes and album can just wash over you with it's music and make you leave the mortal plane, but this album did.

It also feels like there's an incredible amount of detail and care put into everything, from details in the songwriting and production, even to details in the visual aesthetic of this album. I usually try to avoid any visual component, but the artstyle, the little image for each song, the colours, it all felt like a part of the larger piece of art that was the album, byeond just being a cool album cover or something.

Uh yeah good album you should listen to it

10/10

I wonder what the stuff about the flowers were about, it's a large part of the visuals and is mentioned in the first half as something the protagonist is cultivating, but I'm not sure how to interpret it.
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28th July 2024

ZUTOMAYO - Hisohiso Banashi
J-Pop, Yakousei, Japanese, 2019


(Link to the rest of the album)

So I was originally planning to cover something else today, but I wasn't too sure if what I wanted to talk about was appropriate so I DMed some mods but they haven't gotten back to me soo...

Uhh ZUTOMAYO is pretty epic yeah hottest osu player take ik

I think out of all the albums I've listened in this thread so far this is probably the one that has the most history for me. I remember my interest in music properly started with anime OPs and EDs. I'd have a playlist of all the OPs from anime that I'd watch in a youtube playlist and I'd just listen to them on shuffle. FMAB OPs, Code Geass OP 1, OPM OP, AoT OPs, all that good stuff. At some point I started playing around with spotify, and while I was making a playlist I ended up checking out the songs that spotify suggested to add to the playlist. I remember, very specifically, that one of these songs was Kansaete Kuyashiiwa by ZUTOMAYO. I wasn't too impressed with the song at first, until I clicked on their page and had a listen to two songs. Byoushinwo Kamu and STUDY ME. Those two songs solidified ZUTOMAYO as my favourite artist until I eventually found Lamp sometime later, at the time when I was properly starting to branch out of anime OPs and starting to explore other music. Back then, it was ZUTOMAYO, YOASOBI, Yorushika and Polkadot Stingray, the big four for me. And ZUTOMAYO was my favourite. Like this album, Hisohiso banashi, was probably the first full album I listened to, as well as my favourite album (again until I discovered Lamp). And revisiting this album now was really a blast from the past.

Throughout the first four songs, this album was a straight 10/10. Absolute banger after absolute banger, with chaotic, fast paced, maximised instrumentals. It felt like listening to Unhappy Refrain all over again, with a similar style and energy. This honestly surprised me, had my tastes not changed in five years? Was this straight up just the most banger album ever made?




Uh I'm tired I'll finish this later bye

8/10
Polyspora
dead
lostsilver

Polyspora wrote:

dead
this bump was probably needed
reffty_gag
so dead that i want to dig a grave for this thread
Patatitta
bro come on it's been 4 days, this thread has lasted way longer than most others on the same topics so I have faith in them, I've had my thread dead for more than 4 days, they just have more shit to do in life other than this


lostsilver wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

dead
this bump was probably needed
no, normally it isn't, it will be bumped it naturally when they finish an album
Karmine

Patatitta wrote:

lostsilver wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

dead
this bump was probably needed
no, normally it isn't, it will be bumped it naturally when they finish an album
It's needed because it's ILLEGAL to give up the thread, he HAS to continue even if he doesn't want to or he'll be EXECUTED.
Polyspora
high quality irony over there friends
Ashton
I was so close to having mine reviewed nooooo pls continue!!!

(Yes I know I'm hypocritical since my photoshop thread died after a few reqs 😆)
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title is wrong now, i did not listen to an album every day 😭
KeikiEnjoyer
was gonna ask for an album but isn't this thread supposed to be in music hall?
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KeikiEnjoyer wrote:

was gonna ask for an album but isn't this thread supposed to be in music hall?
When I first made this thread I said that mods could move it to there but no one did

I made it in OT because I feel like it'll get more traffic here and there's been similar threads here
KeikiEnjoyer

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

KeikiEnjoyer wrote:

was gonna ask for an album but isn't this thread supposed to be in music hall?
When I first made this thread I said that mods could move it to there but no one did

I made it in OT because I feel like it'll get more traffic here and there's been similar threads here
ahh icic

pls review Dream and Reality by TUMENECO, might have to dl it on doujinstyle because it's not on youtube nor any streaming platform
[ Rynn ]
uhh ive been thinking that this thread somehow fits on the music subforum better?
Patatitta
being moved to music hall would kill the thread, threads like this need the activity OT has to work
z0z
few people go to places in the other category other than gd and ot
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3rd August 2024

Braden Ross - Digilogue
Glitch Pop, American, 2023


(Link to the rest of the album. Also link to the spotify playlist because Kolon Dee suggested me to listen on spotify, presumably because it makes the cuts between the songs seem less jarring than on youtube, but idk I didn't listen to it on youtube)

Yeah it's been a few days but I'm back

Acroba you know that guy

Yeah this gave me the overwhelming impression of Acroba, like this sounds like something he'd make if he started to fuse his music with dariacore (there's probably a better genre to refer to but idk anything about hyperpop pls help).

Another thing was that because of the aesthetic and subject matter especially in the first three tracks, this felt like the most 2023 album ever.

It felt like Braden was trying to do something narratively but honestly idk exactly what, this doesn't seem popular enough for people to come out with their takes where I can easily access them, and the album itself didn't feel very clear.

Honestly for me this album is carried by it's interesting instrumentation/arrangement, like uhhh it was kinda epic idk what to say

Also why does this so listened to on spotify while having no presence anywhere else like wtf, millions of plays on spotify but only thousands on Youtube to 160k on the most viewed video, and google searching makes it seem very unknown. Very weird. He did mention making tiktok songs or something, maybe this is the tiktok song effect?

7/10
Kolon Dee

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

3rd August 2024

Braden Ross - Digilogue
uhhh idk what genre lol i wanna be more specific than "pop", American, 2023


(Link to the rest of the album. Also link to the spotify playlist because Kolon Dee suggested me to listen on spotify, presumably because it makes the cuts between the songs seem less jarring than on youtube, but idk I didn't listen to it on youtube)

Yeah it's been a few days but I'm back

Acroba you know that guy

Yeah this gave me the overwhelming impression of Acroba, like this sounds like something he'd make if he started to fuse his music with dariacore (there's probably a better genre to refer to but idk anything about hyperpop pls help).

Another thing was that because of the aesthetic and subject matter especially in the first three tracks, this felt like the most 2023 album ever.

It felt like Braden was trying to do something narratively but honestly idk exactly what, this doesn't seem popular enough for people to come out with their takes where I can easily access them, and the album itself didn't feel very clear.

Honestly for me this album is carried by it's interesting instrumentation/arrangement, like uhhh it was kinda epic idk what to say

Also why does this so listened to on spotify while having no presence anywhere else like wtf, millions of plays on spotify but only thousands on Youtube to 160k on the most viewed video, and google searching makes it seem very unknown. Very weird. He did mention making tiktok songs or something, maybe this is the tiktok song effect?

7/10
thanks for the review!

from what i understand on this album, he dropped out of school to pursue his music career but he got a lot of negative impressions, and because of this, he gets demotivated from continuing but has no choice but to move on, he also says that he's doing this for himself, his family, and because he likes to make music

I'd called this album's genre: Glitch Pop (glitch hyperpop)

which is similar to this album's genre:
hypochondriac - brakence
(another album recommendation)
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5rd August 2024

Lamp - Genso
Shibuya-Kei, Japanese, 2008


(Link to the rest of the album)

It's nice to just say I really like Lamp and give an 8/10 rating without writing 1000 words

8/10
anaxii
How about this for comparison?



Youtube
TeeArctic1
I'd like to submit this one from one of my favourite artists currently - Fieh's III. I dunno, it's just neat
I don't think the entire album is avaliable from youtube unless watched in a playlist, but I'll link to the first song on the album on youtube and the entire album on Spotify


MangaGrumpy
Emerson Lake & Palmer - Tarkus (the song, not the album)
silmarilen
pearl jam - ten
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25th August 2024

Nine Inch Nails - Year Zero
Industrial Rock, American, 2007


(Link to the rest of the album)

Hi

Thread not dead this time hopefully

So yeah I took a break from listening to an album a day (and OT as a whole) for a while. Not because I was busy or anything, but because I kinda fell off the wagon, and once I fall off it's really hard for me to get back to doing what I was doing before. But I managed to jump on again so here I am.

I don't want to get super introspective about how my brain works in this thread, this is something I've been tackling and I will continue to tackle as I keep living my life. So instead I'll get back on topic and say that yeah this album was epic.

(The reason I skipped Company was because I didn't feel like sitting through an entire 2 hour musical with a story and everything when I was trying to get back into this thread (although this album did end up being like that lol). I'll get to Company later.)

When I first started this album I wasn't really into it. I hadn't been listening to music for a while, and this style of music is not entirely my cup of tea. The dark synth instrumentals and overall vibe were really reminiscent of Massive Attack (I guess this is the stuff that Karmine is really into (hi Karmine)), but unlike Mezzanine it wasn't as super epic and atmospheric and it was sounds that I'd heard before so they didn't really grab me like Mezzanine did.

There was also the fact that I was kinda preoccupied with my listening device situation. The mystery earphones I had been using for years broke a few days ago, so I've been using the default Samsung ones that come with a phone. The thing is these sound noticeably shittier, so I was grappling with the idea that all the music I'd listen to these would sound shitty. I considered starting this thread when I got better headphones and I looked into the equipment that xch00f suggested a while back, but 400 USD feels like a hella pricetag just to listen to some music, and why should I get a seperate DAC, can't I just plug in my headphones into my computer, does it really make much of a difference? and like I'm just listening to everything on Youtube which I have no idea is good quality or not so would this high end equipment really benefit my listening situation? I figured it wasn't really worth it when I was this unsure of everything. I did find another pair of headphones though. They sounded about the same in terms of quality as the Samsung ones, but the sound felt "fuller", I'm guessing because these were over-ears so the base was a lot more powerful, like if you push your in-ear headphones deep into your ears.

Back to the actual album, even though I wasn't really feeling it at the start, I got really into it at around Capital G. This was also when I started reading along with the lyrics through random youtube comments that had them posted. And when I started getting into it this album became amazing. It felt like such an intense experience jamming along to all these industrial sounds. Reading the lyrics also made me realise that they were actually really interesting. And although I wasn't sure if there was a story or anything beyond themes of "America bad" and "Christianity bad", the track
The Great Destroyer and the following tracks convinced me there was something happening.

The Great Destroyer felt like some sort of peak in the story, specifically the part when he went "I am the great destroyer" and proceeded to destroy things I presume, that part was crazy. I'm guessing there's a narrative reason for this peak, but from a more emotional standpoint it felt like this was some huge outlet of all the anger of the previous tracks, anger from being critical at things, and the anger from the music as well. The music just sounds angry and intense in general, and it was like 40 minutes of this continuous anger and intensity was washed away by this track.

Another Version was the first time this album wasn't angry and intense, like the destruction and intensity lead to catharsis and calm, like the world was reborn anew from whatever was happening before. Idk, I really like when albums put effort into bringing you through a journey like this, it really makes it feel like listening to the album as a whole was really worthwhile, over just listening to the tracks individually.

I looked up the album after I listened to it, and apparently there's a lot of story? Like reading the wikipedia summary is kinda wild, my experience of the story was super bare bones because I wasn't researching and following along with it actively like I did with the Lamar albums. What's really interesting though is how relevant this feels with current day, with Trump and his supporters being so evangelical, and Project 2025 looking like the end of society or something (from what I've gathered from coming across it on reddit), it adds a incredible dimension to this album, where you can relate it to current events in a new, unintended way even though it was supposed to be related to current events 7 years ago.

In the end though, even though I really enjoyed this album and am glad that it's the one getting me back into music and made me remember how much of an experience music can be, it's still not really my cup of tea musically. I don't really feel like I'd want to ever listen to it again, even if I could with the story laid out in front of me so I can experience the album in a new way. I'm putting this at like the top of 7. Could be an 8 if I change how I rate albums.

7/10

Also Karmine, I'd be interested why you recommended this album specifically. I looked at Nine Inch Nails' RYM page, and apparently this album isn't rated that highly, but The Downward Spiral seems to be looked at as one of the best albums of all time.
Ashton
We are so Barack
Karmine
Glad you liked it, and yeah it's a concept album maybe I should have mentioned that.
I suggested this one because I really like it (I think it's the first album I listened from NIN) and think it would be good for this thread due to it being a concept album. The Downward Spiral is great and people's favourite because it's relatable (stuff about depression etc), like most people it's the one that had me go from "yeah I like this band" to "fuck this guy knows what's up".
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