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Kobold84
An important question for candidates.
How often do you shower?
Asian Warlord
You’re not telling me what the requirements is.
Patatitta

Asian Warlord wrote:

You’re not telling me what the requirements is.
I think it was 8 months on continuous activity + an actual big contribution to OT. Also you can just like look it up

Kobold84 wrote:

An important question for candidates.
How often do you shower?
Daily/every other day if I don't go outside
Asian Warlord

Patatitta wrote:

Asian Warlord wrote:

You’re not telling me what the requirements is.
I think it was 8 months on continuous activity + an actual big contribution to OT.
But at the same time removing him would be pointless because he is still going to get denizenship whenever he does hit the requirement. I’m not sure if gen 10 is gonna end soon if so, if he doesn’t meet the requirement this gen then just move him to the next gen like what corne said
Blushing

Patatitta wrote:

Asian Warlord wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

y'all are talking about changing the deniznen requirement because that is clearly a problem according to you guys but are willing to let someone who just ignores those requirements stay?
I mean what even is the requirement nowadays. Blushing has been posting on ot for years now.
that is straight up false, 6 pages total in OT

There have been a some of my old OT posts moved to GD keep in mind
Zain Sugieres

burgernfat wrote:

During your time as president, if someone started producing propaganda that is targeted against you, how would you react?
dont care my actions speak better for myself


Patatitta wrote:

y'all are talking about changing the deniznen requirement because that is clearly a problem according to you guys but are willing to let someone who just ignores those requirements stay?
im the only candidate with a different solution.


Kobold84 wrote:

An important question for candidates.
How often do you shower?
everyday
Hydreigon

Zain Sugieres wrote:

even i posted a possible solution to the problem hydreigon u suck
grapes s tier
Patatitta

Asian Warlord wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Asian Warlord wrote:

You’re not telling me what the requirements is.
I think it was 8 months on continuous activity + an actual big contribution to OT.
But at the same time removing him would be pointless because he is still going to get denizenship whenever he does hit the requirement. I’m not sure if gen 10 is gonna end soon if so, if he doesn’t meet the requirement this gen then just move him to the next gen like what corne said
it's not pointless to remove and then re-add, it's just correcting a mistake. There is no way to keep blushing while still trying to make the requirements something important, if something, leaving blushing transmit the energy of "well didn't die I don't want drama so I'm just going to completely ignore this issue"
Hydreigon

Patatitta wrote:

What do you think of current moderation?
It's alright.
With more mods in OT awake in different timezones, it helps lock a lot of the trash out and giving proper moderation to some, albeit maaaybe with some mistakes from time to time, but it aint much of a bother, being so rare.
And i do like how each of them have there own sort of personality to them too, now as for stephanie, well not being favored by the newer denizens for locking random threads, i am intrigued by it and especially on how far it will go, however, its still not favorable for the masses, perhaps with my new "Unlocking" powers then, i would unlock the all the threads deemed, unworthy of a lock by the people of OT.

Patatitta wrote:

What is your opinion on chainposting?
Its just spam.
Which basically goes against the grand edict of OT

so yeah
Will definitely result in a silence, and a mass removal off all the chain posting posts
and if it continues well... exile time.

Really, this is more so directed to one (and maybe few, but they rarely do it) repeated offender, so the chance of it happening again is slim, especially now that mods here have recognize this as a problem

Kobold84 wrote:

What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
I dont really like the idea of being able to request for denizenship, as this would open to many ways people abusing it, such as newer denizens constantly begging for denizenship.
I would revert the denizenship just so the mistake can be corrected, and make the order of denizenship correct as well being Anaxii to Kobold to Sametdze, and give Blushing the proper the correct denizenship at a later date alongside with the new rules for denizenship.
Also ban the idea of future privately requesting for denizenship, as its the governments responsibility for when one gets to receive the title of denizenship and for it to also correct its mistake and not leave it.
Zain Sugieres
This wouldn't be an issue if the denizen system did not exist.
Patatitta

Zain Sugieres wrote:

This wouldn't be an issue if the denizen system did not exist.
based
Hydreigon

Manishh wrote:

Discuss? Don't you have any solid plans for it? just like most of us here. Other than inactive candidates. Parliament is same for the past 2 year or i say past 2 president year. Clearly nothing happened or changed in there time. How are you expecting things to change with you becoming president?
I do have some concrete plans for denizenship such as:

the shorter wait time
the ban of requesting for denizenship
the change of requirements

I still would give either a Yes or No on which ruling gets passed, its just that i want discussion with the new government so that i can have a more second opinion on it, so that i can see what else can be tinkered, and if the changes can be right and fair while still giving the prestige of one receiving the denizenship title

and yeah, new election for VP and a month after, new election for parliament


Manishh wrote:

So, you know there is a chance of you becoming inactive and the chances of it happening is not small, Since, thats why you are adding a whole new role. How will the candidate to get the role will be decided? By you? By election?. Why need a vice president role when there is a parliament with 4 members in it?
as stated above, another separate election would be held afterwards for the role of Vice President, as for why the need, ...well why not? the government has been really inactive and rather not doing much during my time back and from remarks of other people, and more denizens now active, surely the addition of another wouldnt hurt? and as stated before, the VP can sort act as a more if ever the case of the president dying to cringe, then the current VP would immediately take the role of president and it would be there choice of either, continuing the VP role and electing a new VP or abolishing it.
There is also other plans i make for the VP role, they can act as a more second in command, being able to make and orders similar to the president, with just now needing the president official permission on accepting so.




Patatitta wrote:

yeah hydreigon doesn't really solve anything, again, changing the denizen requirement is NOT a solution and just adding more roles wont fix innactivity at the higher levels
Wasn't the requirements of denizenship part of your complainys to the system and one of the reasons why you made OTEra's?
also one thing i want to add is that, i'll try to make it so that the changes to denizenship require arent fully the same with your OTEra system, that way both can exist as separate titles
though i think for you it wouldnt matter as you, as you would most likely abolish the denizenship system or sort of merge the ruling with OTEra's

As for the roles, while i cant fix the disease of inactivity, but i can counter it and make the government somewhat alive, such as giving a ruling where all if a government member even the president isnt active for atleast 1-2 months, then they get automatically kicked out and there roles being replaced, that way, it can somewhat help in making the government active without leaving inactive members in the government.
Also the ruling or one to request leaving the government (though im pretty sure this already exists)

so yeah...
Manishh

burgernfat wrote:

During your time as president, if someone started producing propaganda that is targeted against you, how would you react?
Listen to there issues, If the issues are not even real, I will just ignore it. But if they have good points. I will work on it.

Kobold84 wrote:

An important question for candidates.
How often do you shower?
1 time in a month


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Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

What do you think about a recent addition of Blushing to denizens? Would you revert it if you become a president?
As a vote, I would probably do a poll to decide what OT people actually wants, as the Blushing addition kinda divides the denizens at the moment, as it's clear the Blushing doesn't meets the current requirement at the moment. I think I'll listen to what the majority wants.
You lost my vote right there


Asian Warlord wrote:

You’re not telling me what the requirements is.
You are not understanding how far he is from the rules. The stated requirement is 8 Months & 20 Pages of OT Posts
- An achievement of some sort. Sure we can say he is active for like 8months if you consider just 1 page of post can show all the post he made in 1month or 2 month.

As an idea, I have never chainposted and nor have did shitposting just to farm numbers, Like on shitpost thread or memorizing the number of pie thread. I dont reply on half of the thread in OT!(Out of 30thread in 1 page, I have hardly reply on 10) but still I have 6000posts in OT! in 2years.


Asian Warlord wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Asian Warlord wrote:

You’re not telling me what the requirements is.
I think it was 8 months on continuous activity + an actual big contribution to OT.
But at the same time removing him would be pointless because he is still going to get denizenship whenever he does hit the requirement. I’m not sure if gen 10 is gonna end soon if so, if he doesn’t meet the requirement this gen then just move him to the next gen like what corne said
There is point in removing him. Its not about if he deserve the denizenship or not. Its about, There was a mistake made, we are just fixing it


Hydreigon wrote:

Manishh wrote:

Discuss? Don't you have any solid plans for it? just like most of us here. Other than inactive candidates. Parliament is same for the past 2 year or i say past 2 president year. Clearly nothing happened or changed in there time. How are you expecting things to change with you becoming president?
I do have some concrete plans for denizenship such as:

the shorter wait time
the ban of requesting for denizenship
the change of requirements

I still would give either a Yes or No on which ruling gets passed, its just that i want discussion with the new government so that i can have a more second opinion on it, so that i can see what else can be tinkered, and if the changes can be right and fair while still giving the prestige of one receiving the denizenship title

and yeah, new election for VP and a month after, new election for parliament


Manishh wrote:

So, you know there is a chance of you becoming inactive and the chances of it happening is not small, Since, thats why you are adding a whole new role. How will the candidate to get the role will be decided? By you? By election?. Why need a vice president role when there is a parliament with 4 members in it?
as stated above, another separate election would be held afterwards for the role of Vice President, as for why the need, ...well why not? the government has been really inactive and rather not doing much during my time back and from remarks of other people, and more denizens now active, surely the addition of another wouldnt hurt? and as stated before, the VP can sort act as a more if ever the case of the president dying to cringe, then the current VP would immediately take the role of president and it would be there choice of either, continuing the VP role and electing a new VP or abolishing it.
There is also other plans i make for the VP role, they can act as a more second in command, being able to make and orders similar to the president, with just now needing the president official permission on accepting so.




Patatitta wrote:

yeah hydreigon doesn't really solve anything, again, changing the denizen requirement is NOT a solution and just adding more roles wont fix innactivity at the higher levels
Wasn't the requirements of denizenship part of your complainys to the system and one of the reasons why you made OTEra's?
also one thing i want to add is that, i'll try to make it so that the changes to denizenship require arent fully the same with your OTEra system, that way both can exist as separate titles
though i think for you it wouldnt matter as you, as you would most likely abolish the denizenship system or sort of merge the ruling with OTEra's

As for the roles, while i cant fix the disease of inactivity, but i can counter it and make the government somewhat alive, such as giving a ruling where all if a government member even the president isnt active for atleast 1-2 months, then they get automatically kicked out and there roles being replaced, that way, it can somewhat help in making the government active without leaving inactive members in the government.
Also the ruling or one to request leaving the government (though im pretty sure this already exists)

so yeah...

Hydreigon, nor the denizenship or the requirement of active month and x amount of post are the problem. The problem is not applying them consistently. These rules were never even applied on denizen above Gen8. And right now these rules are not getting applied. Thats the issue. You being there for 2nd opinion is the biggest shit I have heard in a while. YOU ARE THE PRESIDENT, YOU ARE THE ONE TO HAVE 1ST OPINION. Parliament is suppose to give you 2nd opinion and give you advice. OT! need change and a big one. All the effort abraker have put in till yet, the same amount of effort need to put in OT again and in just a year. You are not even saying "I will be active"
Patatitta

Hydreigon wrote:

Wasn't the requirements of denizenship part of your complainys to the system and one of the reasons why you made OTEra's?
no????????? it absolutely wasn't????????????????
Corne2Plum3

Kobold84 wrote:

An important question for candidates.
How often do you shower?
Around 6 times a week on average
Manishh

Patatitta wrote:

Hydreigon wrote:

Wasn't the requirements of denizenship part of your complainys to the system and one of the reasons why you made OTEra's?
no????????? it absolutely wasn't????????????????
Sometimes I feel so bad for patatitta
Blushing
You guys are focusing on the wrong problem at hand! The whole reason I was pushed for denizenship was to actively make change for systems in which the current government is too scared to seize control of!

You guys are looking and discussing apples when the real threat is about discussing all fruits and POSSIBLY even vegetables, but you are all too focused on the fact that I got a fake title on a website for a rhythm game!
Patatitta

Blushing wrote:

You guys are focusing on the wrong problem at hand! The whole reason I was pushed for denizenship was to actively make change for systems in which the current government is too scared to seize control of!

You guys are looking and discussing apples when the real threat is about discussing all fruits and POSSIBLY even vegetables, but you are all too focused on the fact that I got a fake title on a website for a rhythm game!
yeah and i'm using you as an example that denizenship does not work
Blushing

Patatitta wrote:

Blushing wrote:

You guys are focusing on the wrong problem at hand! The whole reason I was pushed for denizenship was to actively make change for systems in which the current government is too scared to seize control of!

You guys are looking and discussing apples when the real threat is about discussing all fruits and POSSIBLY even vegetables, but you are all too focused on the fact that I got a fake title on a website for a rhythm game!

Blushing wrote:

You guys are focusing on the wrong problem at hand! The whole reason I was pushed for denizenship was to actively make change for systems in which the current government is too scared to seize control of!

You guys are looking and discussing apples when the real threat is about discussing all fruits and POSSIBLY even vegetables, but you are all too focused on the fact that I got a fake title on a website for a rhythm game!
yeah and i'm using you as an example that denizenship does not work
If you are going to use me you should use me for something more creative and less tedious than the same 6 year discussion about To be: Denizenship or Not To Be: No Denizenship.

This entire government election is just going to revert back to the same issues as previous ones. The lot of you think there is an inherent importance to the denizen title yet cant explain why it matters so much other than "Recognition and Hall of Fame", If i cared about actually needing that I wouldn't have named myself something so recognizable as "Blushing".

Revoke it or not I don't care, but you guys are using me to talk about an issue that will always plague the system. There is nothing that can be done until you all put away this fantasy that "I can be the one to fix denizen system", like be so fr.

There are bigger things at work and all you guys care about discussing is "BLUSHINGGGIUIUPiuhiuh NOOOO PLEASE WE CANT hAVE INCONSISTENCIES IN THE SYSTEM!!11!!!!", there is inconsistent moderation in this subforum and I dont see you guys debating that, even when its asked directly to you all. There is inconsistencies everywhere but the only one you guys care to talk about is the one that matters least to the overall forum. Be fr.
Patatitta

Blushing wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Blushing wrote:

You guys are focusing on the wrong problem at hand! The whole reason I was pushed for denizenship was to actively make change for systems in which the current government is too scared to seize control of!

You guys are looking and discussing apples when the real threat is about discussing all fruits and POSSIBLY even vegetables, but you are all too focused on the fact that I got a fake title on a website for a rhythm game!

Blushing wrote:

You guys are focusing on the wrong problem at hand! The whole reason I was pushed for denizenship was to actively make change for systems in which the current government is too scared to seize control of!

You guys are looking and discussing apples when the real threat is about discussing all fruits and POSSIBLY even vegetables, but you are all too focused on the fact that I got a fake title on a website for a rhythm game!
yeah and i'm using you as an example that denizenship does not work
If you are going to use me you should use me for something more creative and less tedious than the same 6 year discussion about To be: Denizenship or Not To Be: No Denizenship.

This entire government election is just going to revert back to the same issues as previous ones. The lot of you think there is an inherent importance to the denizen title yet cant explain why it matters so much other than "Recognition and Hall of Fame", If i cared about actually needing that I wouldn't have named myself something so recognizable as "Blushing".

Revoke it or not I don't care, but you guys are using me to talk about an issue that will always plague the system. There is nothing that can be done until you all put away this fantasy that "I can be the one to fix denizen system", like be so fr.

There are bigger things at work and all you guys care about discussing is "BLUSHINGGGIUIUPiuhiuh NOOOO PLEASE WE CANT hAVE INCONSISTENCIES IN THE SYSTEM!!11!!!!", there is inconsistent moderation in this subforum and I dont see you guys debating that, even when its asked directly to you all. There is inconsistencies everywhere but the only one you guys care to talk about is the one that matters least to the overall forum. Be fr.
dude, we've talked this in discord, my point is to re-do the system from the ground up, and I also complained about inconsistent moderation, that is also something I want to change, don't missrepresent what i've told to you
ShinRun
Damn tf is happening
Manishh

ShinRun wrote:

Damn tf is happening
not much, average discussion users discussing
Manishh
Sometimes I think you guys care about denizenship too much. Its an title which is given after you meet the requirement of 8months and 20 pages of post. What is complicated about it?

I will just make this rule apply to every denizen there is in OT! and Will make a rule: If future government want to change the rule. It must be applied to every citizens there was or is in OT!. (so if you are really serious about it, You need to put an insane amount of effort.)
Patatitta

Manishh wrote:

Sometimes I think you guys care about denizenship too much. Its an title which is given after you meet the requirement of 8months and 20 pages of post. What is complicated about it?

I will just make this rule apply to every denizen there is in OT! and Will make a rule: If future government want to change the rule. It must be applied to every citizens there was or is in OT!. (so if you are really serious about it, You need to put an insane amount of effort.)
^ this is also something i'm pushing for
Blushing

Manishh wrote:

Sometimes I think you guys care about denizenship too much. Its an title which is given after you meet the requirement of 8months and 20 pages of post. What is complicated about it?

I will just make this rule apply to every denizen there is in OT! and Will make a rule: If future government want to change the rule. It must be applied to every citizens there was or is in OT!. (so if you are really serious about it, You need to put an insane amount of effort.)
Then what makes it hold special value? If it’s just a title when I reach a milestone then why does it hold value?

Why remove me when I can reach that in approximately the amount of time it takes me to write a script to post to on the last 20 pages
Patatitta
blushing be mad that people are complaining that he got denizen
Blushing

Patatitta wrote:

blushing be mad that people are complaining that he got denizen
It’s less about the title but more about the premise. Everyone I talk to says “it doesn’t matter that much” yet the most debate this thread has is whether or not I deserve to keep a damn title

Also I’m mad that my name is being used as a political plot device without me even being involved in it
Manishh

Blushing wrote:

Manishh wrote:

Sometimes I think you guys care about denizenship too much. Its an title which is given after you meet the requirement of 8months and 20 pages of post. What is complicated about it?

I will just make this rule apply to every denizen there is in OT! and Will make a rule: If future government want to change the rule. It must be applied to every citizens there was or is in OT!. (so if you are really serious about it, You need to put an insane amount of effort.)
Then what makes it hold special value? If it’s just a title when I reach a milestone then why does it hold value?
Does it need special value? What value does it need? What value does a award trophy holds? You cant sell it, You cant eat it.

Blushing wrote:

Why remove me when I can reach that in approximately the amount of time it takes me to write a script to post to on the last 20 pages
"Why remove me"
Because you dont meet the requirement?

Go ahead, Once you reach the requirement without getting silenced. I will give you denizenship
Patatitta

Blushing wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

blushing be mad that people are complaining that he got denizen
It’s less about the title but more about the premise. Everyone I talk to says “it doesn’t matter that much” yet the most debate this thread has is whether or not I deserve to keep a damn title

Also I’m mad that my name is being used as a political plot device without me even being involved in it
my argument is that it doesn't matter much BECAUSE it has been so misstreated and misshandled where the actual title has lost any meaning, I'm trying to reverse that
Reyalp51

Patatitta wrote:

Blushing wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

blushing be mad that people are complaining that he got denizen
It’s less about the title but more about the premise. Everyone I talk to says “it doesn’t matter that much” yet the most debate this thread has is whether or not I deserve to keep a damn title

Also I’m mad that my name is being used as a political plot device without me even being involved in it
my argument is that it doesn't matter much BECAUSE it has been so misstreated and misshandled where the actual title has lost any meaning, I'm trying to reverse that
has it ever had a meaning? some oldfags have like 13 pages of post in total
Patatitta

Reyalp51 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Blushing wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

blushing be mad that people are complaining that he got denizen
It’s less about the title but more about the premise. Everyone I talk to says “it doesn’t matter that much” yet the most debate this thread has is whether or not I deserve to keep a damn title

Also I’m mad that my name is being used as a political plot device without me even being involved in it
my argument is that it doesn't matter much BECAUSE it has been so misstreated and misshandled where the actual title has lost any meaning, I'm trying to reverse that
has it ever had a meaning? some oldfags have like 13 pages of post in total
from the time i've been on OT, no, it hasn't ever had a meaning, but I at least want to make that the rules that are on the thread are applied and also that the acutal rules are consistant all across the thread
Kobold84

Reyalp51 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Blushing wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

blushing be mad that people are complaining that he got denizen
It’s less about the title but more about the premise. Everyone I talk to says “it doesn’t matter that much” yet the most debate this thread has is whether or not I deserve to keep a damn title

Also I’m mad that my name is being used as a political plot device without me even being involved in it
my argument is that it doesn't matter much BECAUSE it has been so misstreated and misshandled where the actual title has lost any meaning, I'm trying to reverse that
has it ever had a meaning? some oldfags have like 13 pages of post in total
The meaning is that abraker scrolled through old posts and the ones who made an impact in his memory got the denizen title. Just posting a lot is not enough, I don't even like the current requirements, they shouldn't exist. It should be people who were part of the community and left an impression on OT. Usually posting a lot does that, but there were people with less posts who still excelled at it. It's arguable if Blushing did.
Blushing
everytime my name is said in this thread I will just meow at you.

Remove my denizen title or don't. The change is not that important compared to stuff that can and should be discussed.
igorsprite

Blushing wrote:

everytime my name is said in this thread I will just meow at you.

Remove my denizen title or don't. The change is not that important compared to stuff that can and should be discussed.
blushing
Kobold84

Blushing wrote:

everytime my name is said in this thread I will just meow at you.

Remove my denizen title or don't. The change is not that important compared to stuff that can and should be discussed.
Blushing Blushing Blushing
Serraionga

Blushing wrote:

everytime my name is said in this thread I will just meow at you.

Remove my denizen title or don't. The change is not that important compared to stuff that can and should be discussed.
blushing
Blushing

igorsprite wrote:

Blushing wrote:

everytime my name is said in this thread I will just meow at you.

Remove my denizen title or don't. The change is not that important compared to stuff that can and should be discussed.
blushing
meow

Kobold84 wrote:

Blushing wrote:

everytime my name is said in this thread I will just meow at you.

Remove my denizen title or don't. The change is not that important compared to stuff that can and should be discussed.
Blushing Blushing Blushing
meow meow meow

Serraionga wrote:

Blushing wrote:

everytime my name is said in this thread I will just meow at you.

Remove my denizen title or don't. The change is not that important compared to stuff that can and should be discussed.
blushing
meow
Asian Warlord

Blushing wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

Blushing wrote:

everytime my name is said in this thread I will just meow at you.

Remove my denizen title or don't. The change is not that important compared to stuff that can and should be discussed.
blushing
meow

Kobold84 wrote:

Blushing wrote:

everytime my name is said in this thread I will just meow at you.

Remove my denizen title or don't. The change is not that important compared to stuff that can and should be discussed.
Blushing Blushing Blushing
meow meow meow

Serraionga wrote:

Blushing wrote:

everytime my name is said in this thread I will just meow at you.

Remove my denizen title or don't. The change is not that important compared to stuff that can and should be discussed.
blushing
meow
Serraionga
Blushing

Serraionga wrote:

Blushing wrote:

meow
https://serraionga.s-ul.eu/zcqH4ZP6
NO MORE MEOW

Manishh

Kobold84 wrote:

Reyalp51 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Blushing wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

blushing be mad that people are complaining that he got denizen
It’s less about the title but more about the premise. Everyone I talk to says “it doesn’t matter that much” yet the most debate this thread has is whether or not I deserve to keep a damn title

Also I’m mad that my name is being used as a political plot device without me even being involved in it
my argument is that it doesn't matter much BECAUSE it has been so misstreated and misshandled where the actual title has lost any meaning, I'm trying to reverse that
has it ever had a meaning? some oldfags have like 13 pages of post in total
The meaning is that abraker scrolled through old posts and the ones who made an impact in his memory got the denizen title. Just posting a lot is not enough, I don't even like the current requirements, they shouldn't exist. It should be people who were part of the community and left an impression on OT. Usually posting a lot does that, but there were people with less posts who still excelled at it. It's arguable if Blushing did.
I have thought about this every time the denizen topic came in past, But till now I have not find any rule which is simple for future gov to follow and is great at selecting denizen. The problem with 'people who were part of the community and left an impression on OT' can turn into.

MP-1: I like this guy, he should be denizen
MP-2: I do too
MP-3: I dont dislike him
MP-4: I am not too sure, he is quite new.
MP-1: Come on everyone knows him and he is a good guy.
MP-4: sure...

It can get really biased. I dont see people like scyla getting denizen early since his post are not 'quality' but clearly people like him have big contribution in keeping OT! active. Thats why I want it to be more like


MP-1: I like this guy, he should be denizen
MP-2: I do too
MP-3: He does not meet the post requirement
MP-4: Yeah he does not but according to x rule. We can remove the post requirement if all 5 of us including president agrees.
MP-1: Yeah lets state why you want him to be denizen.

Something like this is what I wanna implement But its not a solid plan and I dont promise to implement it. I will discuss it after I won that is. Some sort of rules, either creating 2 queue on the basis of quality with 2 requirement(mostly not but fun idea to discuss)
Zain Sugieres
i aint reading all that but happy for you
z0z
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Zain Sugieres
Ok I read some of it and your stances on this are specifically caused by the fact the "denizen system" has been turned from a fun little side project by abraker into something that you guys take way too seriously - it should have been seen as a "hall of fame" thread rather than people who are part of the community. OT should have never been gatekept by anything other than peer pressure and the introduction of the denizen title has been devastating to the forum.
Topic Starter
ClevelandsMyBro
third batch is here lads. only 2 questions this batch since one question is quite the complicated one.


Blushing wrote:

What would you propose be done if another overlord comes in and starts a locking frenzy?
[quote="Blushing"]
What would you propose be done if another overlord comes in and starts a locking frenzy? 
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Blushing wrote:

If you feel that the OT community should have more power in their own moderation and what should and should not be allowed: - What steps would you take if a denizen felt one of their threads was unfairly wastelanded or locked? If you feel differently to this: - What exactly are you trying to do differently from the inactive regime currently in power? How would you want this to be done?
[quote="Blushing"]
If you feel that the OT community should have more power in their own moderation and what should and should not be allowed: - What steps would you take if a denizen felt one of their threads was unfairly wastelanded or locked? If you feel differently to this: - What exactly are you trying to do differently from the inactive regime currently in power? How would you want this to be done?
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Corne2Plum3

Blushing wrote:

What would you propose be done if another overlord comes in and starts a locking frenzy?
Undo their actions hehehe

Blushing wrote:

If you feel that the OT community should have more power in their own moderation and what should and should not be allowed: - What steps would you take if a denizen felt one of their threads was unfairly wastelanded or locked? If you feel differently to this: - What exactly are you trying to do differently from the inactive regime currently in power? How would you want this to be done?
Giving more moderating powers to non-GMT is kinda... complicated... The problem with wastelanded threads is most of the time (let's say at least for the ones I do wasteland) there's actually a real reason for the wasteland, such as inappropriate discussions and contents that goes against the rules, and they should remain here. I can understand this is something that may look unfair but there's nothing you can do... And about the lock abuses, I feel like they're quite rare, I don't think it's really needed.

So about the government having moderation powers I think this is unfortunately non implementable... Sorry...
Manishh

Blushing wrote:

What would you propose be done if another overlord comes in and starts a locking frenzy?
GMT's are smart people and I meant all of them. They have a good sense of right and wrong, they are not stubborn, even if some appear to be. But if a overlord start locking threads, which should not be locked, the best option is to ask them nicely to not lock threads and explain them why. A voice of a citizen is not strong enough to convince a person like Overlord but if well known and reputed GMT like Kobold or Abraker ask him, I am 100% sure the issue will resolve.

Blushing wrote:

If you feel that the OT community should have more power in their own moderation and what should and should not be allowed: - What steps would you take if a denizen felt one of their threads was unfairly wastelanded or locked? If you feel differently to this: - What exactly are you trying to do differently from the inactive regime currently in power? How would you want this to be done?
Alright, here's my take. get that the GMT folks are no dummies. If they're locking a thread, there's probably a good reason, like a clash or a blatant 'shitpost.' Locking those is just how things roll. But, if a citizen feels their thread got the short end of the stick, I'd want them to shoot their thoughts straight to the government. To make that happen, I'm thinking of setting up an Official Thread. It's gonna be GMT-lock-proof, and it's where citizens can hash things out with the government directly.

So, if your thread got the axe unfairly, drop it in the Official Thread, and the government's gotta spill the beans within a week. Quick and clear, that's the goal. This way, we're making sure everyone's got a voice and things run smooth. If this didnt answer your question, let me know.
Patatitta

Blushing wrote:

What would you propose be done if another overlord comes in and starts a locking frenzy?
if the current gmts are not willing to do anything, probably try to get my complaints up the command chain, either try to get other gmt to fight them, or submit a formal complaint to a higher power. If somehow that isn't an option, I would just try to organize some sort of protest inside OT, but for now, it's better to keep track of the GMT applications and who gets in why and for what.



Blushing wrote:

If you feel that the OT community should have more power in their own moderation and what should and should not be allowed: - What steps would you take if a denizen felt one of their threads was unfairly wastelanded or locked? If you feel differently to this: - What exactly are you trying to do differently from the inactive regime currently in power? How would you want this to be done?
oh it absolutely should, I plan to make a thread where everyone can complain about either the government and/or moderation with legal protection that their copmplaints won't be nuked or laughed at or whatever. I will also give a DM option so people can complain anonimously. I currently feel a lot of GMT are unchecked, and even when they make a mistake, the other GMT's are too scared to actually do something about it or people just think that it's better to not fight against a GMT. If a GMT makes a mistake nowadays, there is no one to correct them. If we as a group unionize and actively fight against certain unfair moderation tactics, we probably can get change done.
Zain Sugieres

Blushing wrote:

What would you propose be done if another overlord comes in and starts a locking frenzy?
That's mod power abuse and should be handled by a higher power eventually.

Blushing wrote:

If you feel that the OT community should have more power in their own moderation and what should and should not be allowed: - What steps would you take if a denizen felt one of their threads was unfairly wastelanded or locked? If you feel differently to this: - What exactly are you trying to do differently from the inactive regime currently in power? How would you want this to be done?
Before handing over power to the people of OT there should be a clearly written rulebook written for GMTs to follow. In case there's a GMT actively abusing their powers, the people of OT have other ways of grouping up to stand up to the tyranny and fight against injustice.
Asian Warlord

Blushing wrote:

What would you propose be done if another overlord comes in and starts a locking frenzy?
That is not going to happen


Blushing wrote:

If you feel that the OT community should have more power in their own moderation and what should and should not be allowed: - What steps would you take if a denizen felt one of their threads was unfairly wastelanded or locked? If you feel differently to this: - What exactly are you trying to do differently from the inactive regime currently in power? How would you want this to be done?
That is not going to happen
Topic Starter
ClevelandsMyBro
surprise! new batch dropping earlier than usual. since most of you lot have passed the minimum treshold, i dont expect you lot to answer this batch but feel free to do so.

lets have something fun for the last batch

question for shinrun

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

what do you think of calvin's left buttcheek?
[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]what do you think of calvin's left buttcheek?[/quote]

question for manishh

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

what do you think of baboons?
[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]what do you think of baboons?
[img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Olive_baboon_Ngorongoro.jpg[/img][/quote]

question for patatitta

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

what do you think of marco's obsession of hatsune miku?
[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]what do you think of marco's obsession of hatsune miku?[/quote]

question for asian warlord

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

what would you do if someone shits on drake?
[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]what would you do if someone shits on drake?[/quote]

question for zain sugieres

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

what do you think of graves?
[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]what do you think of graves?
[img]https://images.contentstack.io/v3/assets/blt731acb42bb3d1659/blt5796e3d258e95471/5e83cb29cfad926479634951/Graves_00_Base-Cigar.jpg[/img]

question for hydreigon

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

whats your opinion on the mitsubishi starion?

[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]whats your opinion on the mitsubishi starion?
[img]https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/1987_mitsubishi_starion_1611073864cbe5375d66792DSC00977.jpg[/img]
[img]https://assets.rebelmouse.io/media-library/mitsubishi-starion.jpg?id=30861761&width=1200&height=800&quality=90&coordinates=63%2C0%2C64%2C0[/img][/quote]

question for corne2plum3

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

rate this artwork
[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]rate this artwork
[img]https://fiverr-res.cloudinary.com/images/t_main1,q_auto,f_auto,q_auto,f_auto/gigs/272941153/original/3c6c621bf2c97ce94202322b568b466b66740e1e/draw-amazing-furry-art-fursona-and-character-or-oc-for-you.jpg[/img][/quote]

question for everyone

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"][quote="ClevelandsMyBro"][img]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ooOELrGMn14/maxresdefault.jpg[/img][/quote]
Topic Starter
ClevelandsMyBro
btw i've added a counter on the main post to keep track on how many batches you lot have answered.

ShinRun wrote:

Damn tf is happening
how tf you worse than calvin bro
Cerno

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

ShinRun wrote:

Damn tf is happening
how tf you worse than calvin bro
how the turns have tabled
Patatitta

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

what do you think of marco's obsession of hatsune miku?
honestly given all the waifus and things people in ot are obsessed with, miku is the best of all of them
Manishh

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

what do you think of baboons?
Honestly, I dont know. They look very scary and they are somewhat like that in nature too. Not my fev species of Monkeys but they are cool

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]
I am not
Asian Warlord
question for asian warlord

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

what would you do if someone shits on drake?


question for everyone

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:


Patatitta
forgot to answer this one

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

I want god to fear me
Reyalp51
wa a yu gae
Zain Sugieres

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

what do you think of graves?
He's my life. If he asked me to give him everything, I would. He is the most precious, the hottest, the most attractive and the most intelligent man in the entire world. He is my everything.
Corne2Plum3

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

rate this artwork
7/10 the drawing looks nice. No comments on this

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

I'm not
Zain Sugieres
oh mb i forgot to answer this one

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]
because Graves exists
Puck_
DO NOT VOTE CALVIN, You don't want a racist OT president. This is evidence I'd like to use against him in the debate
Asian Warlord
they pray on my downfall like the podcast with Kanye West and Alex Jones

Manishh
Yeah guys puck is right. Dont be racist kids
Asian Warlord

Manishh wrote:

Yeah guys puck is right. Dont be racist kids
Asian Warlord
creep
Puck_
we're setting fire to OT with this one
Asian Warlord

Apraxye wrote:

we're setting fire to OT with this one
Manishh

Asian Warlord wrote:

Manishh wrote:

Yeah guys puck is right. Dont be racist kids
oh shit..
Cerno

Manishh wrote:

Asian Warlord wrote:

Manishh wrote:

Yeah guys puck is right. Dont be racist kids
oh shit..
caught in 4k
Topic Starter
ClevelandsMyBro
And with that, phase two of 2024 ot!presidential election has come to a close. Congratulations to the candidates who have surpassed the threshold, you are eligible for the final phase of the election.

ps. the third and final phase will be up in ~12 hours time.
Hydreigon

Kobold84 wrote:

An important question for candidates.
How often do you shower?
sadly, even if i shower a lot, its still hard for me to remove the smell of dark type, dragon type, and a bit of motor oil.


Blushing wrote:

What would you propose be done if another overlord comes in and starts a locking frenzy?


Aight here's how it will all go down

Me and this overlord

1v1

At the legendary game known as Uno

Duel to the death!

Double or nothing!

Winner takes all!



If i'd win, this overlord will unlock all the threads he locked and be sent crying in the exile corner

If i'd lose, the overlord would receive double the amount of threads that were originally locked to feast on



And if they dont accept the offer, then it would count as a forfeit and all threads will be unlocked and the overlord would be deemed a coword.



Blushing wrote:

If you feel that the OT community should have more power in their own moderation and what should and should not be allowed: - What steps would you take if a denizen felt one of their threads was unfairly wastelanded or locked? If you feel differently to this: - What exactly are you trying to do differently from the inactive regime currently in power? How would you want this to be done?
Definitely would implement a way where one can privately message (or even publicly announce via a thread or in the OT discord) about there complaint of there thread unfairly locked or nuked, and so long as it doesnt break the grand edict of OT and the forum wide rules of osu forums, then it can be reverted.



And if a GMT is repeatedly abusing there powers to the poor denizens of OT, either by unfairly locking threads and constant reports by the denizens, then the steps mentioned above will come to play.




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ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

whats your opinion on the mitsubishi starion?

*inhale*



Very underrated Mitsubishi, only one of the few to have pop up headlights and to be fitted with a turbo
plus it look cool, especially with its whole retro look

sadge it isnt in many racing games, but at least its in Forza horzion 5 (And previously older GT games)



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ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

[quote="ClevelandsMyBro"]


Hello and welcome back this is the topical discussion on the morning breeze on nbs television, my name is Simon Kangualiala. We bring in the studio this morning one of the gae rights activists: mr. - should i call you Mr??- Pepe Julien Onzima, thank you for coming in, good morning...


why are you

Hydreigon

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

And with that, phase two of 2024 ot!presidential election has come to a close. Congratulations to the candidates who have surpassed the threshold, you are eligible for the final phase of the election.

ps. the third and final phase will be up in ~12 hours time.
shoot i was typing
Topic Starter
ClevelandsMyBro

Hydreigon wrote:

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

And with that, phase two of 2024 ot!presidential election has come to a close. Congratulations to the candidates who have surpassed the threshold, you are eligible for the final phase of the election.

ps. the third and final phase will be up in ~12 hours time.
shoot i was typing
uhhhhhh i wouldnt allow it since your answers were +20 minutes overdue but since its a pretty long one then i'd let it slide.
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