yoony1 wrote:

Scyla wrote:

yoony1 wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

honestly I dont know what's the objective of this thread really, what would be the best case scenario for you?, because i'm currently a bit lost on what we're trying to argue for

It's the usual "OT bad" thread from an old denizen who liked it better when they were more active.

OT changes, it's been constantly evolving since it was created but as always when something changes some people are not happy about it.

Can't wait for when I go boomer mode and make this exact thread in 2 years time

I really do like these types of threads though even if the discussion isn't particularly centred or focussed. They give people a chance to think critically and share their opinions, which doesn't happen often in OT under the pile of shitposting and interactive threads, as well as the weird social hierarchy which might prevent newer people from speaking out.

Just not too often and not drama filled because it'd get annoying, I like shitposting more.

im gonna give you half of my shitposting braincells

are u ok with half a brain left

Scyla has a full working brain?

yoony1 wrote:

Scyla wrote:

yoony1 wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

honestly I dont know what's the objective of this thread really, what would be the best case scenario for you?, because i'm currently a bit lost on what we're trying to argue for

It's the usual "OT bad" thread from an old denizen who liked it better when they were more active.

OT changes, it's been constantly evolving since it was created but as always when something changes some people are not happy about it.

Can't wait for when I go boomer mode and make this exact thread in 2 years time

I really do like these types of threads though even if the discussion isn't particularly centred or focussed. They give people a chance to think critically and share their opinions, which doesn't happen often in OT under the pile of shitposting and interactive threads, as well as the weird social hierarchy which might prevent newer people from speaking out.

Just not too often and not drama filled because it'd get annoying, I like shitposting more.

im gonna give you half of my shitposting braincells

are u ok with half a brain left

i just sleep for a few days and it regenerates

Stomiks wrote:

yoony1 wrote:

Scyla wrote:

yoony1 wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

honestly I dont know what's the objective of this thread really, what would be the best case scenario for you?, because i'm currently a bit lost on what we're trying to argue for

It's the usual "OT bad" thread from an old denizen who liked it better when they were more active.

OT changes, it's been constantly evolving since it was created but as always when something changes some people are not happy about it.

Can't wait for when I go boomer mode and make this exact thread in 2 years time

I really do like these types of threads though even if the discussion isn't particularly centred or focussed. They give people a chance to think critically and share their opinions, which doesn't happen often in OT under the pile of shitposting and interactive threads, as well as the weird social hierarchy which might prevent newer people from speaking out.

Just not too often and not drama filled because it'd get annoying, I like shitposting more.

im gonna give you half of my shitposting braincells

are u ok with half a brain left

Scyla has a full working brain?

i have 9 brains

Kaaruumii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

honestly I dont know what's the objective of this thread really, what would be the best case scenario for you?, because i'm currently a bit lost on what we're trying to argue for

yyottacat is clearly bored so she started up a drama thread to let it all out on us so she wouldnt be bored anymore ez pz

I feel like that's not a great accusation to make.

Yyotta is not that type of person, and the thread itself is something I agree with.
The objective of the thread was to get people to reflect and share their opinions, don't be so quick to paint anyone here as a villain.

Scyla wrote:

i have 9 brains

*9 braincells

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Scyla wrote:

i have 9 brains

*9 braincells

i give yoony 4.5

What I’m seeing here:

1. Some people suggest that the current environment is stable and fine.

2. Some people suggest the introduction of some lore.

YyottaCat wrote:

What I’m seeing here:

1. Some people suggest that the current environment is stable and fine.

2. Some people suggest the introduction of some lore.

Why not both?

YyottaCat wrote:

Manishh just be straight up YELLING. Wonder who got the worst impression in the first couple of months huh.

ho ho we are going there I see.

I may have 'worst' impression in OT! but in what manner? being a retarded? At least I dont have impression of being a bully lmao. Still if i ask my friends to post something or join in something in OT!, they still say its a toxic place.


Which is still sad to see since Off-topic is never been toxic enough to be called toxic but i still have seen toxicity while you try to be part of OT!(in my time)

drama?

There is no such thing as a perfect community especially one that’s centered around imperfect topics. Meta change and people change, an era can only last so long. If you like the current flow, just do what you’re doing but if you don’t, start making changes yourself.

I’m not criticizing Yyotta for making this thread as I to listen to other’s opinion on this subject. Hell I even made one myself a few months back.

-Remi wrote:

Kaaruumii wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

honestly I dont know what's the objective of this thread really, what would be the best case scenario for you?, because i'm currently a bit lost on what we're trying to argue for

yyottacat is clearly bored so she started up a drama thread to let it all out on us so she wouldnt be bored anymore ez pz

I feel like that's not a great accusation to make.

Yyotta is not that type of person, and the thread itself is something I agree with.
The objective of the thread was to get people to reflect and share their opinions, don't be so quick to paint anyone here as a villain.

ik shes right about some of this stuff i was just joking lol but this is just an online forum so i dont really think this is that serious

Manishh wrote:

Still if i ask my friends to post something or join in something in OT!, they still say its a toxic place.

Imagine thinking OT is toxic lmao.
And as for the retarded part...

imo ot is the furthest forum from being toxic other than maybe art
its just funni lol

ot can be toxic, from time to time. but it's not really the main background of the subforum in my experience, not in recent eras.

however we do get some wack moments with a couple users who probably know who they are by now.

also dunno if i'm alone in this or not but ironic misogyny just isn't thaaat funny anymore imo, so dogging on the iconic manishh moment is now seeming like a fun forum hobby

some of the drama is manufactured, of course, so it's not necessarily that serious but it can seem that way from outside

Achromalia wrote:

also dunno if i'm alone in this or not but ironic misogyny just isn't thaaat funny anymore imo, so dogging on the iconic manishh moment is now seeming like a fun forum hobby

What's the iconic manishh moment? I saw alot of his punishments in the tier list thread had something to do with women.

yoony1 wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

also dunno if i'm alone in this or not but ironic misogyny just isn't thaaat funny anymore imo, so dogging on the iconic manishh moment is now seeming like a fun forum hobby

What's the iconic manishh moment? I saw alot of his punishments in the tier list thread had something to do with women.

theres a monkey in my closet

help

I love reading these multiple paragraph, well written blocks of text.

Kaaruumii wrote:

yoony1 wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

also dunno if i'm alone in this or not but ironic misogyny just isn't thaaat funny anymore imo, so dogging on the iconic manishh moment is now seeming like a fun forum hobby

What's the iconic manishh moment? I saw alot of his punishments in the tier list thread had something to do with women.

theres a monkey in my closet

help

manishh routinely posts like women are the antithesis to his existence, and honestly i'm not good with discerning tone so i can't tell if it's a joke or if he genuinely just doesn't understand how to treat women reasonably

but that aside manishh usually isn't much of a dick outside of that, so it was really more of an example to use for why it might've seemed toxic, assuming that he shared OT's responses at times like that. genuinely pretty chill person overall once that first impression period died down.

Achromalia wrote:

Kaaruumii wrote:

yoony1 wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

also dunno if i'm alone in this or not but ironic misogyny just isn't thaaat funny anymore imo, so dogging on the iconic manishh moment is now seeming like a fun forum hobby

What's the iconic manishh moment? I saw alot of his punishments in the tier list thread had something to do with women.

theres a monkey in my closet

help

manishh routinely posts like women are the antithesis to his existence, and honestly i'm not good with discerning tone so i can't tell if it's a joke or if he genuinely just doesn't understand how to treat women reasonably

but that aside manishh usually isn't much of a dick outside of that, so it was really more of an example to use for why it might've seemed toxic, assuming that he shared OT's responses at times like that. genuinely pretty chill person overall once that first impression period died down.

omg achromalia, you seem so reasonable

YyottaCat wrote:

Clickbait titles let’s go!

Seriously though, none of the new threads are tempting enough for me to click on. Everything people talk about is boring trash, no events, no nothing. There’s a thread for every single little detail in every single day of life, yet we seldom get topics worth conversations.

should i do some stupid shit again?

Manishh wrote:

YyottaCat wrote:

Manishh just be straight up YELLING. Wonder who got the worst impression in the first couple of months huh.

ho ho we are going there I see.

I may have 'worst' impression in OT! but in what manner? being a retarded? At least I dont have impression of being a bully lmao. Still if i ask my friends to post something or join in something in OT!, they still say its a toxic place.


Which is still sad to see since Off-topic is never been toxic enough to be called toxic but i still have seen toxicity while you try to be part of OT!(in my time)

imo manish isn't the person to have given me the first worst impression but loserotaku (manish is pretty high up there)

recency bias may apply though

z0z wrote:

Manishh wrote:

YyottaCat wrote:

Manishh just be straight up YELLING. Wonder who got the worst impression in the first couple of months huh.

ho ho we are going there I see.

I may have 'worst' impression in OT! but in what manner? being a retarded? At least I dont have impression of being a bully lmao. Still if i ask my friends to post something or join in something in OT!, they still say its a toxic place.


Which is still sad to see since Off-topic is never been toxic enough to be called toxic but i still have seen toxicity while you try to be part of OT!(in my time)

imo manish isn't the person to have given me the first worst impression but loserotaku (manish is pretty high up there)

recency bias may apply though

yes loserotaku takes the W again. fuck you manish

Loserotaku wrote:

z0z wrote:

imo manish isn't the person to have given me the first worst impression but loserotaku (manish is pretty high up there)

recency bias may apply though

yes loserotaku takes the W again. fuck you manish

please grow and change as a person

Achromalia wrote:

Loserotaku wrote:

z0z wrote:

imo manish isn't the person to have given me the first worst impression but loserotaku (manish is pretty high up there)

recency bias may apply though

yes loserotaku takes the W again. fuck you manish

please grow and change as a person

same energy as "all attention is good attention" or something like that

how he's acting doesn't help opinions either

Achromalia wrote:

Kaaruumii wrote:

yoony1 wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

also dunno if i'm alone in this or not but ironic misogyny just isn't thaaat funny anymore imo, so dogging on the iconic manishh moment is now seeming like a fun forum hobby

What's the iconic manishh moment? I saw alot of his punishments in the tier list thread had something to do with women.

theres a monkey in my closet

help

manishh routinely posts like women are the antithesis to his existence, and honestly i'm not good with discerning tone so i can't tell if it's a joke or if he genuinely just doesn't understand how to treat women reasonably

but that aside manishh usually isn't much of a dick outside of that, so it was really more of an example to use for why it might've seemed toxic, assuming that he shared OT's responses at times like that. genuinely pretty chill person overall once that first impression period died down.

Women get treated?



So the story about the ss is that when I joined OT!, where I didn't have any persona and didn't participated in any lore. At that time the toxicity was there in OT!GN discord server toward me and then it came to the discord server I had. So from that definitely my friends gonna think it as a toxic place.

Oh yeah I remember Cleveland and Tad raided manishh’s server or smth

Sometimes, I wonder how you all are friends.

-Remi wrote:

Sometimes, I wonder how you all are friends.

I'm not friends with anyone here. I don't like making online friends after what happened with me and Roboboy013.

[ Sebastian ] wrote:

-Remi wrote:

Sometimes, I wonder how you all are friends.

I'm not friends with anyone here. I don't like making online friends after what happened with me and Roboboy013.

what happened

Kaaruumii wrote:

[ Sebastian ] wrote:

-Remi wrote:

Sometimes, I wonder how you all are friends.

I'm not friends with anyone here. I don't like making online friends after what happened with me and Roboboy013.

what happened

I won't go into too much detail. Roboboy013 was someone who I would call an online friend. She always talked about how she had cancer and how awful it made her life. She went into detail about all the misery she went through, and it made me depressed. Then one day, she admitted that she lied about having cancer. I have never forgiven her for that since.

[ Sebastian ] wrote:

Kaaruumii wrote:

[ Sebastian ] wrote:

-Remi wrote:

Sometimes, I wonder how you all are friends.

I'm not friends with anyone here. I don't like making online friends after what happened with me and Roboboy013.

what happened

I won't go into too much detail. Roboboy013 was someone who I would call an online friend. She always talked about how she had cancer and how awful it made her life. She went into detail about all the misery she went through, and it made me depressed. Then one day, she admitted that she lied about having cancer. I have never forgiven her for that since.

hmm. understandable, though closing yourself off entirely from online friendship isn't healthy either.

i've had a similar experience to some extent, i've grown up with the internet at a formative age where i'd ultimately encounter momentary/transitory friends who would suicide-bait me for sympathy. i genuinely believed them, and they took advantage of my energy and my intent to support them. i've always had a kind of underlying rescuer-complex, and i'd repeatedly fall into that for a number of people, defending them and rationalizing their behavior if they're being singled out or rejected by society, even when they were repeatedly shitty people. i've had to learn how to cut people off since then.

from that kind of childhood, it's particularly common to shut down and want to protect yourself. it's a significant kind of weight to carry when you've become that invested and involved in a person's life. but you are not required to be their therapist, and it is not your responsibility to take for things you didn't do.

as scary as it can be, it's okay to continue trying to connect with people. there will be someone sincere and genuine in their compassion for you and respect for you. i eventually grew with the help of people who heard me out even if they couldn't really solve my issues, because that isn't their responsibility either. but they did help me digest my experience through each mutual exchange of vulnerability. eventually i found friendship without fixating on my baggage.

i still often handle people's pain for them, but i'd like to think i'm just a little smarter about it. there are friends who suffer that i continually aim to shelter, and knowing where to establish your boundaries is a very important part of cultivating that ability. it's a skill that often is still possible to learn and develop with experience whenever this scenario appears. you might just find that you won't have to use it after all.

ShinRun wrote:

Oh yeah I remember Cleveland and Tad raided manishh’s server or smth

ot lore peaked here. it has been a constant downhill after that.

-Remi wrote:

Sometimes, I wonder how you all are friends.

i'm friends only with a few people on here

everyone else is either a stranger or acquaintance

[ Sebastian ] wrote:

-Remi wrote:

Sometimes, I wonder how you all are friends.

I'm not friends with anyone here. I don't like making online friends after what happened with me and Roboboy013.

Honestly, not having online friends isn't a bad thing.
With the right lack of discipline, online friendships turn into online obsessions or relationships, which are cringe.
That's only with some people though (Valorant Players)

I have online friends, but I wouldn't care about them like I care about a real friend, and I'm fortunate to be surrounded by friends I look up to, in the real world.

z0z wrote:

-Remi wrote:

Sometimes, I wonder how you all are friends.

i'm friends only with a few people on here

everyone else is either a stranger or acquaintance

but we are best friends, right z0z.
smooooch~<3

-Remi wrote:

z0z wrote:

-Remi wrote:

Sometimes, I wonder how you all are friends.

i'm friends only with a few people on here

everyone else is either a stranger or acquaintance

but we are best friends, right z0z.
smooooch~<3

you are an acquaintance

-Remi wrote:

[ Sebastian ] wrote:

-Remi wrote:

Sometimes, I wonder how you all are friends.

I'm not friends with anyone here. I don't like making online friends after what happened with me and Roboboy013.

Honestly, not having online friends isn't a bad thing.
With the right lack of discipline, online friendships turn into online obsessions or relationships, which are cringe.
That's only with some people though (Valorant Players)

I have online friends, but I wouldn't care about them like I care about a real friend, and I'm fortunate to be surrounded by friends I look up to, in the real world.

mmyeah this is a fair point too, i forgot that the real world exists and that people are very capable of prioritizing tangible friendships over digital friendships... so your approach with vulnerability and investment in friendships will probably vary from what someone like me might make of it.

digital application of socialization is pretty much my only world of communication, so take that suggestion with this in mind, i'm pretty immersed in the internet over anything else and will probably dissociate and hold a grossly out-of-focus pov irl. i value digital friends equally highly, and i'm extremely preferential to digital communication because i operate best that way out of convenience of access and communication, as well as my capacity to integrate more sensibly because i only have to think for a moment and type, instead of immediately processing and expressing/emoting my feelings/thoughts, and using my body and voice to communicate (which can be very draining).

...oversharing for context aside, i trust you'll manage that some way or another.

IRL friendship > online friendship

Achromalia wrote:

-Remi wrote:

[ Sebastian ] wrote:

-Remi wrote:

Sometimes, I wonder how you all are friends.

I'm not friends with anyone here. I don't like making online friends after what happened with me and Roboboy013.

Honestly, not having online friends isn't a bad thing.
With the right lack of discipline, online friendships turn into online obsessions or relationships, which are cringe.
That's only with some people though (Valorant Players)

I have online friends, but I wouldn't care about them like I care about a real friend, and I'm fortunate to be surrounded by friends I look up to, in the real world.

mmyeah this is a fair point too, i forgot that the real world exists and that people are very capable of prioritizing tangible friendships over digital friendships... so your approach with vulnerability and investment in friendships will probably vary from what someone like me might make of it.

digital application of socialization is pretty much my only world of communication, so take that suggestion with this in mind, i'm pretty immersed in the internet over anything else and will probably dissociate and hold a grossly out-of-focus pov irl. i value digital friends equally highly, and i'm extremely preferential to digital communication because i operate best that way out of convenience of access and communication, as well as my capacity to integrate more sensibly because i only have to think for a moment and type, instead of immediately processing and expressing/emoting my feelings/thoughts, and using my body and voice to communicate (which can be very draining).

...oversharing for context aside, i trust you'll manage that some way or another.

Though I still prefer IRL friends, I understand what you mean.

Despite having many friends, I have an issue with stuttering and thinking of sentences cohesively. In the online world, it's not as big of an issue, as I can think harder, and edit my words. Online, the only thing that displays is your personality, and it's harder to be judged, as people don't get to look at you. This is why I think it's easier to make and maintain friends in the digital realm.
But I've come to learn that in order to become more confident in real life, and quickly prove wrong the people who judge me based on appearance, I have to get my priorities straight. I should spend and prioritise my 'skills' in the real world, and maintain what relationships I have. Online friends can only take you so far, usually, they turnover faster than real friends do.

Of course, this is coming from the perspective of a 16 year old. I recall having a discussion on this exact forum about the topic of friends, and I've been told by Abraker and many others, that you lose a lot of friends after University, as you all go your own ways in life. With this, I understand why an adult would put more value onto online friends.

Patatitta wrote:

IRL friendship > online friendship

true. i have more irl friends than online

I can't relate at all to most of my former irl friends

roufou wrote:

I can't relate at all to most of my former irl friends

You have some new ones tho, yh

-Remi wrote:

roufou wrote:

I can't relate at all to most of my former irl friends

You have some new ones tho, yh

debatable, I only really meet one person around my age irl.
I guess it comes down to what you would count as a friend.

roufou wrote:

-Remi wrote:

roufou wrote:

I can't relate at all to most of my former irl friends

You have some new ones tho, yh

debatable, I only really meet one person around my age irl.
I guess it comes down to what you would count as a friend.

If you're comfortable, then it's fine to have one friend
But recently I've been okay with making friends older than I am

-Remi wrote:

Sometimes, I wonder how you all are friends.

Hmmm, I know ppl here, yep, there is some ppl I get along with but only a few are like ppl I'd still talk in a long term to consider them friends.

Also, yep, irl friendships allow you stuff that you cannot do online and feels more organic, sadly during pandemic most of my friedships either vanished or turned into acquaintances so... I was left basically alone now heh.

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

ShinRun wrote:

Oh yeah I remember Cleveland and Tad raided manishh’s server or smth

ot lore peaked here. it has been a constant downhill after that.

that was a flop thread bro

-Remi wrote:

[ Sebastian ] wrote:

-Remi wrote:

Sometimes, I wonder how you all are friends.

I'm not friends with anyone here. I don't like making online friends after what happened with me and Roboboy013.

Honestly, not having online friends isn't a bad thing.
With the right lack of discipline, online friendships turn into online obsessions or relationships, which are cringe.
That's only with some people though (Valorant Players)

Yeah but not all valorant players : (



what are friends

I feel something comforting in online friends though. If something happens that could ruin our friendship and hate each other, I could easily just click the unfriend button and never associate with them again. It's as easy as that. there are barely any drawbacks from this since the internet is such a huge place.

That's not the same for IRL friendships turning sour. We still have to see each other at school or workplaces, often needing to interact with them for cooperation of the class or work team. Because of that and other reasons, we can grow bitter about each other, and potentially start talking behind their backs, making false rumors, accusations, and potentially ruining each other's reputations because you have a hate for that person. It's hard to get rid of no longer wanted people in your life IRL if I'd say.

Manishh wrote:

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

ShinRun wrote:

Oh yeah I remember Cleveland and Tad raided manishh’s server or smth

ot lore peaked here. it has been a constant downhill after that.

that was a flop thread bro

that shit is literally the reason why there are no gnr people in ot today. the thread may have flopped but the whole thing was a massive w.

I’m pretty sure everyone here would value irl friend over online friend. I am friend with a few denizens from gen 8 and before, or at least I think but none of us would directly reach out to the other. Yeah sure we would fuck around if we’re on a discord server but that’s probably the only time we would chat. I guess the right term would be having a social group instead of multiple friends.

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

Manishh wrote:

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

ShinRun wrote:

Oh yeah I remember Cleveland and Tad raided manishh’s server or smth

ot lore peaked here. it has been a constant downhill after that.

that was a flop thread bro

that shit is literally the reason why there are no gnr people in ot today. the thread may have flopped but the whole thing was a massive w.

what did you expect lmao. To be fair most old users have left G&R

-Remi wrote:

Sometimes, I wonder how you all are friends.

I wonder that too.

ShinRun wrote:

Yeah sure we would fuck

wow shin cant believe youre that kind of person