looks like the mapper gave in and changed itMcEndu wrote:
Map reported as having an obnoxious/meme bg. Mapper contests that any bg can be used as long as it is rankable
ongoing
deadcode's black rover is literally perfectly fineLi Syaoran wrote:
amefuri and io's black rover drama, although they weren't dqed (at least amefuri hasn't yet since it's in qualified atm)
imo i get why people complained about black rover (not even that bad, yall just haven't played ar 8) but amefuri is the last thing to complain about considering this can get rankedColdTooth wrote:
deadcode's black rover is literally perfectly fine
it's just you have too many people bitching about it not giving pp
"ohhh! it's not od9.4 or ar9.6, there's very little 1-2 jumps!!!!! not rankable!!!"
pathetic weaklings
♫▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ஜ۩۞۩ஜ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬♫Li Syaoran wrote:
imo i get why people complained about black rover (not even that bad, yall just haven't played ar 8) but amefuri is the last thing to complain about considering this can get rankedColdTooth wrote:
deadcode's black rover is literally perfectly fine
it's just you have too many people bitching about it not giving pp
"ohhh! it's not od9.4 or ar9.6, there's very little 1-2 jumps!!!!! not rankable!!!"
pathetic weaklings
this drama is just absurd.Li Syaoran wrote:
apparently 2 mode 4 diff e/e set is unrankable
beatmapsets/1154158/discussion/-/generalAll#/2006279
my point still standsZelzatter Zero wrote:
and then I thought ranking process has reached all time low
amefuri set has proved me otherwise
since i finally got something ranked, i think i can actually speak on this.abraker wrote:
The ranked system is set up in a way that mappers and BN have an optimization problem to solve. Mappers work toward getting their maps ranked as fast as possible, while BN look for ways to guarantee successful nominations with ease. So it's in mapper's best interest to make maps that are easy to nominate. Mappers who try ranking more complex maps do so at the expense of encountering more hurdles when ranking maps.
Additionally,
Ranked system favors mappers who don't take pride in their own work. It favors mappers who make maps who suit BN tastes instead of their own. It favors mappers who agree with any change a modder asks them to make. It favors mappers who don't care how many times their map may be disqualified.
The system treats the maps the mapper makes as a factory produced product.
wait what the fuck LMFAOabraker wrote:
community/forums/posts/5767351 ?????????????????????????????
well, looking at it now, ranking HAS to follow a generic meta. in the ranked section, there has to be a norm for what is set for ranked, and nowadays, it involves having mostly acute 45 degree angle jumps and easy to hit circles. this is what's considered "normal" and the reason we need this to be considered normal, is so unconventional non-generic creative maps can be considered creative. if creative maps were the norm, then they aren't creative maps, they're just maps with uncomfortable angles that somewhat represent the musicabraker wrote:
@MinNin I am not saying that's what ranked is, but I am saying that's what ranked naturally leans toward to. Not all mappers do uncreative maps and not all bn promote such maps, but it would be the easier thing to do. There is a reason why ranked section feels generic or follows a common meta.
creativity unknown mapper = no rankLi Syaoran wrote:
well, looking at it now, ranking HAS to follow a generic meta. in the ranked section, there has to be a norm for what is set for ranked, and nowadays, it involves having mostly acute 45 degree angle jumps and easy to hit circles. this is what's considered "normal" and the reason we need this to be considered normal, is so unconventional non-generic creative maps can be considered creative. if creative maps were the norm, then they aren't creative maps, they're just maps with uncomfortable angles that somewhat represent the musicabraker wrote:
@MinNin I am not saying that's what ranked is, but I am saying that's what ranked naturally leans toward to. Not all mappers do uncreative maps and not all bn promote such maps, but it would be the easier thing to do. There is a reason why ranked section feels generic or follows a common meta.
ofc there's more variety in unranked section, because everyone is guaranteed to have an unranked map, but only a select few are guaranteed to have a ranked map. there's no rules to having an unranked map (besides bgs and stuff) but there's rules to having a ranked map.abraker wrote:
@MinNin Fancy way of saying "if everything is creative, nothing is"
Which is total bs because I see more creativity in the unranked section than in ranked, at least in mania.
please do not give up!!!!eblf2013 wrote:
For shits like these I give up on even learning to map.
LISTEN HERE YOU SON OF A BEACH.Jonarwhal wrote:
please do not give up!!!!eblf2013 wrote:
For shits like these I give up on even learning to map.
mapping is fun and drama only happens to like .01% of mappers
if you need any help with STD or Taiko feel free to ask me whenever :3c
people are allowed to be helpful you ungrateful brateblf2013 wrote:
LISTEN HERE YOU SON OF A BEACH.Jonarwhal wrote:
please do not give up!!!!eblf2013 wrote:
For shits like these I give up on even learning to map.
mapping is fun and drama only happens to like .01% of mappers
if you need any help with STD or Taiko feel free to ask me whenever :3c
HOW DO YOU DARE TO UNDRAMATIZE ME AND TO ACTUALLY IMPROVE MY MOOD AND MOTIVATE ME?
I just wanted to express my thanks in the most dramatic way possible.Sombez wrote:
people are allowed to be helpful you ungrateful brateblf2013 wrote:
LISTEN HERE YOU SON OF A BEACH.Jonarwhal wrote:
please do not give up!!!!eblf2013 wrote:
For shits like these I give up on even learning to map.
mapping is fun and drama only happens to like .01% of mappers
if you need any help with STD or Taiko feel free to ask me whenever :3c
HOW DO YOU DARE TO UNDRAMATIZE ME AND TO ACTUALLY IMPROVE MY MOOD AND MOTIVATE ME?
no? what's that?eblf2013 wrote:
I just wanted to express my thanks in the most dramatic way possible.Sombez wrote:
people are allowed to be helpful you ungrateful brateblf2013 wrote:
LISTEN HERE YOU SON OF A BEACH.Jonarwhal wrote:
please do not give up!!!!eblf2013 wrote:
For shits like these I give up on even learning to map.
mapping is fun and drama only happens to like .01% of mappers
if you need any help with STD or Taiko feel free to ask me whenever :3c
HOW DO YOU DARE TO UNDRAMATIZE ME AND TO ACTUALLY IMPROVE MY MOOD AND MOTIVATE ME?
Btw has anyone played the DMT9Nowa version of amefuri? lol.
I thought you were lightsSombez wrote:
people are allowed to be helpful you ungrateful brateblf2013 wrote:
LISTEN HERE YOU SON OF A BEACH.Jonarwhal wrote:
please do not give up!!!!eblf2013 wrote:
For shits like these I give up on even learning to map.
mapping is fun and drama only happens to like .01% of mappers
if you need any help with STD or Taiko feel free to ask me whenever :3c
HOW DO YOU DARE TO UNDRAMATIZE ME AND TO ACTUALLY IMPROVE MY MOOD AND MOTIVATE ME?
lmaoeblf2013 wrote:
I just wanted to express my thanks in the most dramatic way possible.
Btw has anyone played the DMT9Nowa version of amefuri? lol.
this: https://twitter.com/Dtm9Nowa/status/1332875761091555328z0z wrote:
no? what's that?eblf2013 wrote:
I just wanted to express my thanks in the most dramatic way possible.Sombez wrote:
people are allowed to be helpful you ungrateful brateblf2013 wrote:
LISTEN HERE YOU SON OF A BEACH.Jonarwhal wrote:
please do not give up!!!!eblf2013 wrote:
For shits like these I give up on even learning to map.
mapping is fun and drama only happens to like .01% of mappers
if you need any help with STD or Taiko feel free to ask me whenever :3c
HOW DO YOU DARE TO UNDRAMATIZE ME AND TO ACTUALLY IMPROVE MY MOOD AND MOTIVATE ME?
Btw has anyone played the DMT9Nowa version of amefuri? lol.
hmmmm yes fasg slider make me vrom@veoöWitherMite wrote:
this: https://twitter.com/Dtm9Nowa/status/1332875761091555328
wtfKalopaka wrote:
beatmapsets/1103239/discussion/-/generalAll#/2010084
look at that vote to down vote ratioKalopaka wrote:
beatmapsets/1103239/discussion/-/generalAll#/2010084
since when was there a downvote optionClevelandsMyBro wrote:
look at that vote to down vote ratioKalopaka wrote:
beatmapsets/1103239/discussion/-/generalAll#/2010084
Lol this is halariousKalopaka wrote:
beatmapsets/1103239/discussion/-/generalAll#/2010084
just wait for the next one!abraker wrote:
Wow second drama within a week. 2020 is finally laying all its cards onto the table!
I wonder how absurd will be this time lolColdTooth wrote:
just wait for the next one!abraker wrote:
Wow second drama within a week. 2020 is finally laying all its cards onto the table!
except it doesn't...?Penguin wrote:
I'm glad that it got DQ'd because of that BG. There's been an alarming amount of borderline pedophilic background images in ranked osu maps throughout the years. Honestly, I'd go as far as saying a lot of them are just straight up pedophilic. It's really absurd the amount of people in the comments trying to defend this type of shit. And the people who try to twist it by saying, "YoUr'E tHe onLY onEs wHO tHiNk it'S SuGGesTIve, yOU're THe BaD onES." What a bunch of retards.
I understand that this bg isn't nearly as bad as some others out there, and that's where a lot of people have their issue iwth their decision to remove it, but it's still bad nonetheless. Honestly, I think that they should start retroactively removing pedophilic BG's from currently ranked mapsets. I know logistically, it wouldn't be the easiest of things to do, but I say it's worth it.
My only issue with this bit of "drama" is that they didn't start removing these types of BG's earlier.
Penguin wrote:
I'm glad that it got DQ'd because of that BG. There's been an alarming amount of borderline pedophilic background images in ranked osu maps throughout the years. Honestly, I'd go as far as saying a lot of them are just straight up pedophilic.
This is subjective, having normal school uniforms is not seen as bad in my opinion. I don't see anything wrong in that specific image, maybe this drama should have been a little less intense if they chose an image that would have been more suggestive. beatmapsets/864354 this for example. SHE IS 14 FOR FUCKS SAKE.Penguin wrote:
It's really absurd the amount of people in the comments trying to defend this type of shit. And the people who try to twist it by saying, "YoUr'E tHe onLY onEs wHO tHiNk it'S SuGGesTIve, yOU're THe BaD onES." What a bunch of retards.
I understand that this bg isn't nearly as bad as some others out there, and that's where a lot of people have their issue iwth their decision to remove it, but it's still bad nonetheless.
I agree with this as well but:Penguin wrote:
Honestly, I think that they should start retroactively removing pedophilic BG's from currently ranked mapsets. I know logistically, it wouldn't be the easiest of things to do, but I say it's worth it.
My only issue with this bit of "drama" is that they didn't start removing these types of BG's earlier.
Personally, I give zero fucks whether the background is anime/furry/RL or not. I just get tiny bit slightly triggered when I see yet another unoriginal mapper use a background of an anime girl in bikini or some other kind of swimsuit, revealing or not. You see, I kinda don't care about their hormones going fucking apeshit and would really love if this fact wasn't shoved into my face every fucking time I open this game.ColdTooth wrote:
i would rather stare at a brick wall than be forced to look at an anime girl bg
I don't understand. First, you say the skirts are fine and reasonable, then you say that it's a bit questionable? Also, just because there are worse offenders out there, doesn't mean that this one isn't at fault.Zelzatter Zero wrote:
except it doesn't...?
yes it has underaged characters, but unlike any other bgs the skirts are of reasonable length and the pose is nothing near sexual ones out there. Agree that the way the skirt is drawn is a bit questionable but saying it's borderline pedophilic is straight up bruh moment.
It's well known that thighs are very sexualized in the weeb community and this type of pose is very common when trying to sexualize somebody in anime weeb shit. To think that this image is 100% innocent of any type of sexualization is just plain ignorant.Zelzatter Zero wrote:
and the pose is nothing near sexual ones out there.
First off, those maps previously ranked with pedophilic content should never have been ranked imo. Having pedo type shit in the community is just enabling that type of garbage. Secondly, the reason why there's been a crackdown on pedo shit in osu recently is because of all of the horrific shit happening for YEARS in this community that has just recently come to light in the past few weeks/months. Obviously, pedophilic content is going to start being dealt with in this community now. It's not like they're only going to target this specific map and let all the other maps with similar or worse content get ranked in the furture.Zelzatter Zero wrote:
I honestly don't know why this has to be targeted when there are way worse one that is still getting ranked day by day.
I mean, this image is very obviously sexualizing children. You can nearly see up two of their skirts... Like, how obvious does it need to be for you guys to think that it's crossing into "sexualization" territory?eblf2013 wrote:
This is subjective, having normal school uniforms is not seen as bad in my opinion. I don't see anything wrong in that specific image, maybe this drama should have been a little less intense if they chose an image that would have been more suggestive.
Yes, there are obviously worse offenders out there, but that doesn't mean that this BG we're talking about is absolved from all guilt. All the pedo shit in this community needs to be dealt with, and this just so happens to be the starting point.eblf2013 wrote:
beatmapsets/864354 this for example. SHE IS 14 FOR FUCKS SAKE.
Amen brother.ColdTooth wrote:
It's apparently really difficult to follow the RC and match the bg with the song choice. I'm glad things like Sotarks' Gold Dust or other examples are being dealt with, but people still really want to include anime tiddies, and now striking into lolicon.
Really, it's just fucking disgusting. Thank god I never got into anime. Being a furry is cringe, but not as cringe as what's going on.
I agree. there's a lot of art out there that isn't suggestive at all and that would fit the song's themeKatouMegumi wrote:
Personally, I give zero fucks whether the background is anime/furry/RL or not. I just get tiny bit slightly triggered when I see yet another unoriginal mapper use a background of an anime girl in bikini or some other kind of swimsuit, revealing or not. You see, I kinda don't care about their hormones going fucking apeshit and would really love if this fact wasn't shoved into my face every fucking time I open this game.ColdTooth wrote:
i would rather stare at a brick wall than be forced to look at an anime girl bg
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beatmapsets/2637#osu/24427Hydreigon wrote:
why cant we just have maps with sexy car bg's
here's another one beatmapsets/804230#osu/1691288KatouMegumi wrote:
beatmapsets/2637#osu/24427Hydreigon wrote:
why cant we just have maps with sexy car bg's
And every year there will be best mapping drama award.Zelzatter Zero wrote:
tbh we can establish a weekly mapping drama show at this point.
what shall we call it?GPR wrote:
And every year there will be best mapping drama award.Zelzatter Zero wrote:
tbh we can establish a weekly mapping drama show at this point.
Osu! Exciting , explosive and entertaining reply award. Mapping editionHydreigon wrote:
what shall we call it?GPR wrote:
And every year there will be best mapping drama award.Zelzatter Zero wrote:
tbh we can establish a weekly mapping drama show at this point.
or what about:levesterz wrote:
Osu! Exciting , explosive and entertaining reply award. Mapping editionHydreigon wrote:
what shall we call it?GPR wrote:
And every year there will be best mapping drama award.Zelzatter Zero wrote:
tbh we can establish a weekly mapping drama show at this point.
i like this oneaxl2468 wrote:
or what about:levesterz wrote:
Osu! Exciting , explosive and entertaining reply award. Mapping editionHydreigon wrote:
what shall we call it?GPR wrote:
And every year there will be best mapping drama award.Zelzatter Zero wrote:
tbh we can establish a weekly mapping drama show at this point.
The osu! Salt Awards
But these kind of awards would force people to be dramatic just for an award, drama is best when spontaneous.axl2468 wrote:
or what about:levesterz wrote:
Osu! Exciting , explosive and entertaining reply award. Mapping editionHydreigon wrote:
what shall we call it?GPR wrote:
And every year there will be best mapping drama award.Zelzatter Zero wrote:
tbh we can establish a weekly mapping drama show at this point.
The osu! Salt Awards
How many mappers actually visit this thread?eblf2013 wrote:
But these kind of awards would force people to be dramatic just for an award, drama is best when spontaneous.axl2468 wrote:
or what about:levesterz wrote:
Osu! Exciting , explosive and entertaining reply award. Mapping editionHydreigon wrote:
what shall we call it?GPR wrote:
And every year there will be best mapping drama award.Zelzatter Zero wrote:
tbh we can establish a weekly mapping drama show at this point.
The osu! Salt Awards
I understand where you're coming from but I think sometimes the default album artwork can be relatively boring or monochromaticz0z wrote:
i would like for song bgs in osu to become like literally any song jacket in other games because seeing an anime girl in a background that isn't relevant to the song is bit a annoying because there's no reason you should have an anime girl there
that can be arranged!!!Hydreigon wrote:
why cant we just have maps with sexy car bg's
I mean, anime artwork isn't the only colorful artwork out there.Jonarwhal wrote:
I understand where you're coming from but I think sometimes the default album artwork can be relatively boring or monochromatic
for my monody map for example, I didn't want to use the default album artwork because it's not as colorful as I wanted
too lateReforms Expert wrote:
amefuri
Oh no I just said amefuri cause I like the wordClevelandsMyBro wrote:
too lateReforms Expert wrote:
amefuri
oh, you like amefuri? name every dq'd mapped in the last centuryReforms Expert wrote:
Oh no I just said amefuri cause I like the wordClevelandsMyBro wrote:
too lateReforms Expert wrote:
amefuri
most of them were weeb artwork sexualizing children, most people wouldn't want to see that.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
now im currious wtf the og background looks like
welp too late now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ thx eph
So many nanahira.Penguin wrote:
THANK YOU EPH FOR DOING THE LORDS WORK. I HONESTLY REALLY APRECTIATE YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
Incase you guys don't know, eph is getting rid of all the pedophile background images in previously ranked maps.
imo they're fictional tho so i can't really see a problem, but since it's just sexual in general, i don't think we need sexual bgs. but by that logic, we should replace the mp3 file of border of extacy with something elsePenguin wrote:
most of them were weeb artwork sexualizing children, most people wouldn't want to see that.
lmao whatLi Syaoran wrote:
imo they're fictional tho so i can't really see a problemPenguin wrote:
most of them were weeb artwork sexualizing children, most people wouldn't want to see that.
yes, ik it sounds a bit weird, but i can't stop them if no one is being exploited, that's the thing. plus, did you read the rest of it?Penguin wrote:
lmao whatLi Syaoran wrote:
imo they're fictional tho so i can't really see a problemPenguin wrote:
most of them were weeb artwork sexualizing children, most people wouldn't want to see that.
oh wowPenguin wrote:
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