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Ily right now mr color <3
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The concept of spreads is a toxic idea from the beginning which now we can't imagine without of. I fully support one diff spreads per rank and think doing such is the best way going forward. And do notice I said "one diff spreads per rank". Let me elaborate. Currently we are ranking a spread with multiple difficulties and as Cyclohexane said, there are good way to make a spread and there are bad ways. This concept arise only when ranking multiple diffs at once. Nobody complains about this when two different mappers rank the same song, which can be in some respect be considered an extension of a spread in loose terms. By ranking a difficulty at a time and allowing a cooling period, a spread of the same mapper can be extended without this notion in which multiple difficulties overlap. When you rank them all at once, players play them all at once. Overlapping spreads become redundant. When ranking a diff and adding it into a spread sometime later, they can be considered as an improvement or a variant of the diff(s) without saturating the quantity of same difficulties.
So when some mapper decides to rank a map, they don't need to rank an entire spread at once. You can rank the rest of the difficulties as time goes on. If both difficulties end up being 4*, for instance, who are you to say that it's not acceptable if it's acceptable for 2 different mappers to rank similar difficulties of the same song at different times?
Emphasis that it is an assumption that it is acceptable for 2 different mappers to rank similar difficulties of the same song at different times since I never saw anyone complain about that.
So when some mapper decides to rank a map, they don't need to rank an entire spread at once. You can rank the rest of the difficulties as time goes on. If both difficulties end up being 4*, for instance, who are you to say that it's not acceptable if it's acceptable for 2 different mappers to rank similar difficulties of the same song at different times?
Emphasis that it is an assumption that it is acceptable for 2 different mappers to rank similar difficulties of the same song at different times since I never saw anyone complain about that.
your argument is based around the assumption that sets are flawed ideas, but how is providing content to each playing level a flawed concept?
the current spread thing is boiling down to the same thing you described as ~just ranking more diffs as you move on~ except it waits for all the things you would make over the course of time moving on and based around the idea that full packages of content are to hit ranked status at the same time instead of diffs for specific audiences
the current spread thing is boiling down to the same thing you described as ~just ranking more diffs as you move on~ except it waits for all the things you would make over the course of time moving on and based around the idea that full packages of content are to hit ranked status at the same time instead of diffs for specific audiences
#agruingforlaziness
I support Abraker because I'm lazy too
I support Abraker because I'm lazy too
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It is the same thing... for the player. Now for the mapper, especially new mappers that are considering whether to rank a map or not, this is a huge difference. It offers the flexibility to focus on individual difficulties instead of multiple difficulties. You also don't need a mapper giving up ranking entire mapset over some drama due to a diff that can and should be worked on later. There are so many mappers like me that bail on ranking because it's too much of a stretch to rank a full spread at a time. It's like giving a 70 page packet for you to finish whenever you feel like it. 70 pages feels intimidating, so you just push it a side to due something else. Now give a 2 page packet and you consider that you can get it done quickly enough not to take up much time. Then comes another 2 page packet, not too scary. Rinse and repeat. I'd say the current system with spreads works fine in most areas concerning quality, but it wasn't made with the thought of attracting mappers by understanding their psychology.Okorin wrote:
your argument is based around the assumption that sets are flawed ideas, but how is providing content to each playing level a flawed concept?
the current spread thing is boiling down to the same thing you described as ~just ranking more diffs as you move on~ except it waits for all the things you would make over the course of time moving on and based around the idea that full packages of content are to hit ranked status at the same time instead of diffs for specific audiences
the most toxic idea that floats around in the contemporary mapping community, is pishifat's tenet that a ''good'' map should represent the song. He just made that up, but people like the idea because his voice is apparently so soothing that they forget to consider the massive obstacle they created by forcing an arbitrary creative restriction on mappers based on one guy's subjective preference.abraker wrote:
The concept of spreads is a toxic idea from the beginning which now we can't imagine without of.
What the hell was that fun vs. good video of his
fun is all the good. We're playing a rhythm game, not a two-dimensional song visualisation simulator.
Is this why the thread exploded?Meah wrote:
The thread is interesting enough to explodejohnmedina999 wrote:
Is this why the thread exploded?Meah wrote:
I would be so keen for that to happen.Meah wrote:
oh, saw abraker on around 5:30
cs7
Thanks mr Red
od10
hp3
fuck that gameRailey2 wrote:
cs global offensive
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CS2 AR9 HP5 Jump map or quit
Making brbabraker wrote:
CS2 AR9 HP5 Jump map or quit
here ya goabraker wrote:
CS2 AR9 HP5 Jump map or quit
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Needs a bit more work, but I actually how it came out. Except the end... nice trylevesterz wrote:
here ya goabraker wrote:
CS2 AR9 HP5 Jump map or quit
Edit: After ~10 tries
abraker wrote:
Needs a bit more work, but I actually how it came out. Except the end... nice trylevesterz wrote:
abraker wrote:
CS2 AR9 HP5 Jump map or quit
here ya go
Edit: After ~10 tries
Grats. i spend like 30 sec of placing random note there. kinda surprised you pass it
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* but I actually like how it came out.
Damn typos
Damn typos
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Oh this got revived. Ok then I will use the opportunity.
Peppy hates how the latest Aspire map breaks the game. However I think that the game should support such things. It's through this kind of creative mapping we move our creativity forward to the point we are asking for new mechanics to be implemented.
Speaking of mechanics, I want to see hold notes being supported as well as variable SV sliders. Just imagine having the slider go loopy-loop, slowing down, and end in a gentle stop. Man, the type of maps mappers would be able to create with that mechanic would be amazing. It just needs a ranking criteria of something like "Sliders are not to slow down or speed up more than X ps/s^s"
Peppy hates how the latest Aspire map breaks the game. However I think that the game should support such things. It's through this kind of creative mapping we move our creativity forward to the point we are asking for new mechanics to be implemented.
Speaking of mechanics, I want to see hold notes being supported as well as variable SV sliders. Just imagine having the slider go loopy-loop, slowing down, and end in a gentle stop. Man, the type of maps mappers would be able to create with that mechanic would be amazing. It just needs a ranking criteria of something like "Sliders are not to slow down or speed up more than X ps/s^s"
א-oabraker wrote:
SPOILEROh this got revived. Ok then I will use the opportunity.
Peppy hates how the latest Aspire map breaks the game. However I think that the game should support such things. It's through this kind of creative mapping we move our creativity forward to the point we are asking for new mechanics to be implemented.
Speaking of mechanics, I want to see hold notes being supported as well as variable SV sliders. Just imagine having the slider go loopy-loop, slowing down, and end in a gentle stop. Man, the type of maps mappers would be able to create with that mechanic would be amazing. It just needs a ranking criteria of something like "Sliders are not to slow down or speed up more than X ps/s^s"
no on else did anything wrong it was just alveryn tbh. he had to make such a huge deal out of two letters in a title
No one did anything wrong except for peppy, who made them stop talking for no good reason. If people want to argue about CV vs cv, let them.
RESUME
CV
CV
can we not have fucking double pp maps that are the same fucking thing except flipped or different sliders
like seriously no wonder why i stopped mapping
like seriously no wonder why i stopped mapping
I usually don't care but I have to agree with this.
The BN system is supposed to make sure each and every difficulty of every map up for ranking status is quality. I don't get how there can be two clearly identical maps with the only difference being that someone did Ctrl+a and Ctrl+h and still have that ranked.
The BN system is supposed to make sure each and every difficulty of every map up for ranking status is quality. I don't get how there can be two clearly identical maps with the only difference being that someone did Ctrl+a and Ctrl+h and still have that ranked.
It's getting out of hand right now. People are accepting this, and the BN system isn't doing jack shit. They're letting people like Monstrata just speedrank over and over, and people like me out of the blue. 2016 I tried to get a map ranked, didn't work out, the year before, didn't work out. So far no luck on this year because BN system after my last map was ranked got shittier and shittier. It's just so bad now. And I feel like I expressed my opinion too much when I say this, people don't map for quality anymore, they map for quantity of pp, 6 insanes, 6 extras, and 1 easy. Fucking seriously.johnmedina999 wrote:
I usually don't care but I have to agree with this.
The BN system is supposed to make sure each and every difficulty of every map up for ranking status is quality. I don't get how there can be two clearly identical maps with the only difference being that someone did Ctrl+a and Ctrl+h and still have that ranked.
Dittojohnmedina999 wrote:
I usually don't care but I have to agree with this.
The BN system is supposed to make sure each and every difficulty of every map up for ranking status is quality. I don't get how there can be two clearly identical maps with the only difference being that someone did Ctrl+a and Ctrl+h and still have that ranked.
necro bump heres some more maping drama
https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/commen ... w_mappers/
t/671891
https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/commen ... w_mappers/
t/671891
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Shohei Ohtani
This drama is baby drama.
You need CDFA levels of drama.
Or this because it's my favorite even though it's not really drama it's just a fantastic moment in mapping history: p/2453976
You need CDFA levels of drama.
Or this because it's my favorite even though it's not really drama it's just a fantastic moment in mapping history: p/2453976
And you were there to experience it, lucky you.
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the map looks like it was ahead of its timeCDFA wrote:
Or this because it's my favorite even though it's not really drama it's just a fantastic moment in mapping history: p/2453976
please continue...CDFA wrote:
You need CDFA levels of drama.
wtfCDFA wrote:
This drama is baby drama.
You need CDFA levels of drama.
Or this because it's my favorite even though it's not really drama it's just a fantastic moment in mapping history: p/2453976
i would never come back if The Creator himself banished me personally
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nice, but not sure if it's worth adding to the list considering how short it isCanadian Baka wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/567267/start=90
This was a fun one
Shohei Ohtani
did u link your own drama lmaoCanadian Baka wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/567267/start=90
This was a fun one
You could barely hear me giggle.CDFA wrote:
did u link your own drama lmaoCanadian Baka wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/567267/start=90
This was a fun one
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but fights over bg usage? lmfao this is richIgor Sprite wrote:
lopkyy
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/530333/start=30
I should be able to go as far a being able to rank a beatmap with a black bg if I wanted to. bg is a non gameplay part of the map and only helps as a visual identifier while browsing.
Mara may disagree, but playing with no bg dim has little relevancy anymore. With the option to make it a non gameplay factor, its requirement shall be null and void
You should probly add some titles/drama reasons next to the links.
Also it has little relevancy anymore, thanks to the people removing backgrounds which led peppy to add the dim. Bunch of casuals.
Also it has little relevancy anymore, thanks to the people removing backgrounds which led peppy to add the dim. Bunch of casuals.
i love this topic xD, mapping drama makes me laugh
I am happy that I am not active anymore, I couldn't stand the stupidity of this with my age anymore.abraker wrote:
but fights over bg usage? lmfao this is richIgor Sprite wrote:
lopkyy
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/530333/start=30
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doneMara wrote:
You should probly add some titles/drama reasons next to the links.
it was kinda ur fault cuz u didnt wanna remove lopkyy from tagsIgor Sprite wrote:
lopkyy
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/530333/start=30
t/113868/start=60 drama about diff names
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Should have just went with something like "I don't care Easy" and be done with itego_17 wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/113868/start=60 drama about diff names
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latest one added
haha holy fuck im grabbing extra large popcorn tonight, this is goodigorsprite wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/725171/discussion
jeez remind me not to map i guess, i can't even get anything ranked
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Already included in the last one. The reddit link offers contextigorsprite wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/725171/discussion
Ruck feddit
both are old though
:sigh:
:sigh:
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p/6294254 - Mapper creates map with extreme difficulty spikes
I am also thinking of providing descriptions of mapper arguments, the opposing arguments, and what ended up happening. The listings currently serves as a compilation for reference and I am thinking of expanding it to serve as an explanation for how things work and why things need to be done a certain way via the listed as examples. Might take a while for me to fill those in.
I am also thinking of providing descriptions of mapper arguments, the opposing arguments, and what ended up happening. The listings currently serves as a compilation for reference and I am thinking of expanding it to serve as an explanation for how things work and why things need to be done a certain way via the listed as examples. Might take a while for me to fill those in.
OH BOY ANOTHER 8+* DIFFICULTY FROM KROYTZ AND 4 MAPS QUALIFIED FROM HIM AROUND THE SAME TIME
man i love 2017-2018 mapping, really makes this game so fun! lol jk i wanna fucking kms
man i love 2017-2018 mapping, really makes this game so fun! lol jk i wanna fucking kms
Oh man, I remember the Thunderclowns speedrank. It wasn't really much drama though. BATs got a slap on the wrist and that was the end of it.
can we make mapping drama in this thread about a list of mapping drama
holy VINXIS sTOP WRITING PP SONGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! can we DMCA all vinxis songs from this gameMishima Yurara wrote:
can we make mapping drama in this thread about a list of mapping drama
WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
hey guys while y'all here go check out my soundcloud im dropping new fire songs for mappers to make pp maps out of https://soundcloud.com/vinxis
E m i
Actually, I rarely use whole numbers, I like decimals.Momi wrote:
your new map will be cs4 ar8 od9 hp8 and 5 starsColdTooth wrote:
OH BOY ANOTHER 8+* DIFFICULTY FROM KROYTZ AND 4 MAPS QUALIFIED FROM HIM AROUND THE SAME TIME
man i love 2017-2018 mapping, really makes this game so fun! lol jk i wanna fucking kms
hey i never said i don't like that
Decimals are cancer.
Wow I actually agree.
Fractions are superior.
Fractions are superior.
I mean...
Okay, you got me, I will remove all of my maps from 2015-2017
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Shohei Ohtani
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People take this game too seriously
Can be said again over the past few days, really.abraker wrote:
People take this game too seriously
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added
play unranked. That's the wayColdTooth wrote:
Can be said again over the past few days, really.abraker wrote:
People take this game too seriously
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here we go
https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/commen ... dmcad_xdd/ - Sotark's pp meme map gets DMCA'd by a frustrated player
https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/commen ... dmcad_xdd/ - Sotark's pp meme map gets DMCA'd by a frustrated player
abraker wrote:
here we go
https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/comments/8pzx27/sotarks_despacito_has_been_dmcad_xdd/ - Sotark's pp meme map gets DMCA'd by a frustrated player
ft. R3 Music Box
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/628469/d ... ll#/368630 --->SV usage is excessive
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Added- Aries - wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/628469/discussion/-/generalAll#/368630 --->SV usage is excessive
There is no shortage of mania sv maps in today's meta. While that is a good thing, the problem is that I hate sv.
,,, Sincerely,
Ranked is Dead
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/749998/discussion/1579567/timeline/pending this ones pretty juicy
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That's a gold mine boi!neko-san da wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/749998/discussion/1579567/timeline/pending this ones pretty juicy
I claim 75% of me earnings
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minor argument between a couple people, nothing really notableMinNin wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/166689/start=102
idk if this is drama or not
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/820695/d ... al#/454210
idk it's drama or not.....wtf the discussion is too long.......lazy to read XD
idk it's drama or not.....wtf the discussion is too long.......lazy to read XD
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oh that's drama alright. Be sure to grab a whole bucket of popcorn for this one- Aries - wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/820695/discussion/1720274/general#/454210
idk it's drama or not.....wtf the discussion is too long.......lazy to read XD
sorry for necrobump but i dont have any drama to share i want more drama
i want more drama
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Can someone here who follows the mapping scene tell me if there is something juicy going on?