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Softwarm
yum
Shohei Ohtani
This drama is baby drama.

You need CDFA levels of drama.

Or this because it's my favorite even though it's not really drama it's just a fantastic moment in mapping history: p/2453976
johnmedina999
And you were there to experience it, lucky you.
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abraker

CDFA wrote:

Or this because it's my favorite even though it's not really drama it's just a fantastic moment in mapping history: p/2453976
the map looks like it was ahead of its time

CDFA wrote:

You need CDFA levels of drama.
please continue...
Caput Mortuum

CDFA wrote:

This drama is baby drama.

You need CDFA levels of drama.

Or this because it's my favorite even though it's not really drama it's just a fantastic moment in mapping history: p/2453976
wtf
Shohei Ohtani
Please elaborate on this.
Caput Mortuum
i would never come back if The Creator himself banished me personally
Ashton
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abraker

Canadian Baka wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/567267/start=90


This was a fun one
nice, but not sure if it's worth adding to the list considering how short it is
Shohei Ohtani

Canadian Baka wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/567267/start=90


This was a fun one
did u link your own drama lmao
ColdTooth

CDFA wrote:

Canadian Baka wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/567267/start=90


This was a fun one
did u link your own drama lmao
You could barely hear me giggle.
igorsprite
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abraker

Igor Sprite wrote:

lopkyy
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/530333/start=30
but fights over bg usage? lmfao this is rich

I should be able to go as far a being able to rank a beatmap with a black bg if I wanted to. bg is a non gameplay part of the map and only helps as a visual identifier while browsing.

Mara may disagree, but playing with no bg dim has little relevancy anymore. With the option to make it a non gameplay factor, its requirement shall be null and void
Mara
You should probly add some titles/drama reasons next to the links.

Also it has little relevancy anymore, thanks to the people removing backgrounds which led peppy to add the dim. Bunch of casuals. 8-)
igorsprite
i love this topic xD, mapping drama makes me laugh
Stefan

abraker wrote:

Igor Sprite wrote:

lopkyy
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/530333/start=30
but fights over bg usage? lmfao this is rich
I am happy that I am not active anymore, I couldn't stand the stupidity of this with my age anymore.
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abraker

Mara wrote:

You should probly add some titles/drama reasons next to the links.
done
fat pear

Igor Sprite wrote:

lopkyy
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/530333/start=30
it was kinda ur fault cuz u didnt wanna remove lopkyy from tags
ego_17
t/113868/start=60 drama about diff names
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abraker

ego_17 wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/113868/start=60 drama about diff names
Should have just went with something like "I don't care Easy" and be done with it
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abraker
latest one added
igorsprite
ColdTooth

igorsprite wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/725171/discussion
haha holy fuck im grabbing extra large popcorn tonight, this is good

jeez remind me not to map i guess, i can't even get anything ranked
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abraker

igorsprite wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/725171/discussion
Already included in the last one. The reddit link offers context
Stefan
Ruck feddit
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abraker
Two new ones added

p/3344973 - Map is speedranked within 4 hours, Loctav decimates 2 BATS (assume unseen drama in pm /shrug)
p/4751468 - Mapper makes Easy and Normal diffs and cuts mp3 for tv sized song
ColdTooth
both are old though

:sigh:
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abraker
p/6294254 - Mapper creates map with extreme difficulty spikes



I am also thinking of providing descriptions of mapper arguments, the opposing arguments, and what ended up happening. The listings currently serves as a compilation for reference and I am thinking of expanding it to serve as an explanation for how things work and why things need to be done a certain way via the listed as examples. Might take a while for me to fill those in.
ColdTooth
OH BOY ANOTHER 8+* DIFFICULTY FROM KROYTZ AND 4 MAPS QUALIFIED FROM HIM AROUND THE SAME TIME

man i love 2017-2018 mapping, really makes this game so fun! lol jk i wanna fucking kms
Penguin
Oh man, I remember the Thunderclowns speedrank. It wasn't really much drama though. BATs got a slap on the wrist and that was the end of it.
VINXIS
can we make mapping drama in this thread about a list of mapping drama
Nathan

Mishima Yurara wrote:

can we make mapping drama in this thread about a list of mapping drama
holy VINXIS sTOP WRITING PP SONGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! can we DMCA all vinxis songs from this game
VINXIS
WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Nathan
hey guys while y'all here go check out my soundcloud im dropping new fire songs for mappers to make pp maps out of https://soundcloud.com/vinxis
VINXIS
E m i

ColdTooth wrote:

OH BOY ANOTHER 8+* DIFFICULTY FROM KROYTZ AND 4 MAPS QUALIFIED FROM HIM AROUND THE SAME TIME

man i love 2017-2018 mapping, really makes this game so fun! lol jk i wanna fucking kms
your new map will be cs4 ar8 od9 hp8 and 5 stars

hey i never said i don't like that
ColdTooth

Momi wrote:

ColdTooth wrote:

OH BOY ANOTHER 8+* DIFFICULTY FROM KROYTZ AND 4 MAPS QUALIFIED FROM HIM AROUND THE SAME TIME

man i love 2017-2018 mapping, really makes this game so fun! lol jk i wanna fucking kms
your new map will be cs4 ar8 od9 hp8 and 5 stars

hey i never said i don't like that
Actually, I rarely use whole numbers, I like decimals.
B1rd
Decimals are cancer.
johnmedina999
Wow I actually agree.

Fractions are superior.
ColdTooth
Atleast I don't use screen-jumps

I mean...

Okay, you got me, I will remove all of my maps from 2015-2017
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abraker
we got new ones

p/6544737 - Map DQ'd due to a diff name without context to how hard it is
p/6535424 - Map DQ'd due to accumulated subjective reasoning from multiple QATs. Mapper proceeds to defend mapping style
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abraker
New one!

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/740752/d ... generalAll - Trying to rank a meme map
Shohei Ohtani
yeah we've never had a meme map ranked before this is a travesty who would think to do such a thing
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abraker
People take this game too seriously
ColdTooth

abraker wrote:

People take this game too seriously
Can be said again over the past few days, really.
Froslass
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abraker
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ColdTooth wrote:

abraker wrote:

People take this game too seriously
Can be said again over the past few days, really.
play unranked. That's the way
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abraker
here we go

https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/commen ... dmcad_xdd/ - Sotark's pp meme map gets DMCA'd by a frustrated player
VinZentVanDough

abraker wrote:

here we go

https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/comments/8pzx27/sotarks_despacito_has_been_dmcad_xdd/ - Sotark's pp meme map gets DMCA'd by a frustrated player


ft. R3 Music Box
AyeAries
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abraker

- Aries - wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/628469/discussion/-/generalAll#/368630 --->SV usage is excessive
Added

There is no shortage of mania sv maps in today's meta. While that is a good thing, the problem is that I hate sv.

,,, Sincerely,
Ranked is Dead
Ashton
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abraker

neko-san da wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/749998/discussion/1579567/timeline/pending this ones pretty juicy
That's a gold mine boi!

I claim 75% of me earnings
Dialect
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abraker

MinNin wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/166689/start=102

idk if this is drama or not
minor argument between a couple people, nothing really notable
AyeAries
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/820695/d ... al#/454210

idk it's drama or not.....wtf the discussion is too long.......lazy to read XD
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abraker

- Aries - wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/820695/discussion/1720274/general#/454210

idk it's drama or not.....wtf the discussion is too long.......lazy to read XD
oh that's drama alright. Be sure to grab a whole bucket of popcorn for this one
fat pear
sorry for necrobump but i dont have any drama to share :) i want more drama :)
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abraker
Can someone here who follows the mapping scene tell me if there is something juicy going on?
johnmedina999
Something about Sotarks, most likely.
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abraker
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/823960/discussion/-/generalAll#/505116 - Mapper maps a 30 second cut to a previously mapped song; Argument that this is laziness and not quality

new one in a while, thanks CB
Quibbly
Surprised no one got triggered at the necro
Westonini

Quibbly wrote:

Surprised no one got triggered at the necro

That's just because this thread isn't a shitpost and is actually interesting.
Quibbly

Westonini wrote:

Quibbly wrote:

Surprised no one got triggered at the necro

That's just because this thread isn't a shitpost and is actually interesting.

A LEGAL necro? le gasp
Serraionga

abraker wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/823960/discussion/-/generalAll#/505116 - Mapper maps a 30 second cut to a previously mapped song; Argument that this is laziness and not quality
there's gonna be people saying "b-but other mappers do it so it's okay XD!!!1" over there isn't it

EDIT: yup, called it
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abraker
Someone should make a mapping drama bingo table
Serraionga


i'm really tired and haven't kept up with mapping drama in a long time, you go fill the rest of the blanks
Flanster

Quibbly wrote:

Westonini wrote:

Quibbly wrote:

Surprised no one got triggered at the necro

That's just because this thread isn't a shitpost and is actually interesting.

A LEGAL necro? le gasp

I'll allow it.
Quibbly

Flanster wrote:

Quibbly wrote:

A LEGAL necro? le gasp

I'll allow it.

LE GASP
ColdTooth

Serraionga wrote:



i'm really tired and haven't kept up with mapping drama in a long time, you go fill the rest of the blanks
i can probas make one next month
Aiseca
Found Something!!!

Please add this: https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/740672/discussion/1562551/general/pending

TBH... I found this to be somewhat close to me about mapping related....
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abraker
needs further developments, not involving only two people
frutiger aero
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abraker
so what's the difference between (1,0) and (4,1)?
Aiseca
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/738265/discussion/-/generalAll/pending
I finally found some.
This is a legit mapping drama!
Issue about two a mapset getting qualified with less mods. Others are complaining about aesthetics and poor judgement of the BN's who nominated the mapset.
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abraker
small drama so far, but qualifies

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Aiseca

abraker wrote:

small drama so far, but qualifies

added



Mind you that I joined in to express my opinions about aesthetics and how BN's handle such maps to nominations with little or questionable modding.
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abraker
unless it's someone who would go into osu mapping history books for partaking in the heated discussion, I'd avoid explicitly naming people part of it.
Aiseca

abraker wrote:

unless it's someone who would go into osu mapping history books for partaking in the heated discussion, I'd avoid explicitly naming people part of it.


I understand it. This is only for archiving purposes. Also, naming people imo at these kind of 'sensitive issues' is a bad idea.
_handholding
nice i'm on that list
Aiseca
Where's the Bingo Card? Q.Q)
Aiseca
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/870930/discussion/1819853/general/pending

An argument about the way Normal was mapped. Even decent players can't play it. Other questions the credibility of qualifying such map.

Twitter feed comment.
https://twitter.com/TheShadowxdd/status/1069047816360734720
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abraker
Aiseca
The discussion might be short-lived but here's something (not much drama really imo)

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/866806/discussion/-/generalAll

Mapper gave up his map from being ranked because of breaking the guideline about compilation which says needs three songs instead of two. QAT and Nominators had voiced out thier opinions on why it's considered unrankable.
Tateshina Eve
Yeah I saw that too. Man, he's unlucky.
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abraker
while short lived, I think that's a good example of ranking criteria's effects on what kind of maps make it to ranked

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Aiseca

Aiseca wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/870930/discussion/1819853/general/pending

INFO REDACTED


A follow-up on this particular story:
Monstrata finally dropped the bomb to the mapper on how he sees the map.

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abraker
damn monstrata

I don't care about rhythm choices. I want to decipher the map whatever it is. So long as it doesn't show a middle finger to the player via a diff spike or some ridiculously hard to do section, it should be alright. As a player I play first, and question the mapping last.
Aiseca
AI-chan reporting another very spicy one (this is actually got ranked like WTF....)

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/852901/discussion#/669017

Mappers have their own concept on how to reflect the song and also some very controversial topics on nomination. Massive wall of text and fiery arguments from the community spread out of the discussion room.

One also used A-L-I-E-N map as a baseline for the argument

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abraker
spicy

but I argue flow is as subjective as the line they draw for definition. First definition would concern when you can no longer move the cursor in a smooth motion. The subjectivity mostly comes from the player's ability to maintain around the same velocity throughout the pattern (assuming they do that instead of snapping). Sharp angles can be said to have flow like star patterns and such, and first definition doesn't cover those. Second definition would concern the stress the player experience when trying to reach an aimpoint.
Aiseca

abraker wrote:

spicy

but I argue flow is as subjective as the line they draw for when you can no longer move the cursor in a smooth motion. The subjectivity mostly comes from the player's ability to maintain around the same velocity throughout the pattern (assuming they do that instead of snapping).


The level of subjectiveness differs from player to player and what skill level they actually attain. that could be the reason why others see it fine while others don't.
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abraker
I updated my response before I saw your reply

second definition covers what you have said
Aiseca

abraker wrote:

I updated my response before I saw your reply

second definition covers what you have said


I think were on the same boat on this issue then.
Kibbleru
oh my, the good old days LOL

if somebody was found nowadays ranking a map with inconsistency in timing between diffs, they'd get booted right away prob xD
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abraker
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/5666947 - mapper makes highest diff with extremely hard jacks in the ending. Drama ensues over tastes as the map gets rep from player rating. Drama resolves until bubble pop by QAT for keeping ending intact.
Aiseca
Recent events at the mapping scene brought up many people to question the system. Do you think with the current proposals here and there being put up to be discussed and have a "community-wide input" on how to make the system work well at both ends of the mapper and the higher-ups can finally be done at the start of a new chapter of mapping? Or is it another gust of wind just passing by and will be sent yet again to the depths without resolution?
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abraker
"Community-wide" input is not wide enough. I am actively engaging those threads and mostly BN, mappers, and modders are responding. Huge polarization on how to deal with controversial maps. Some want a QAT dictatorship to firmly decide against "low quality" maps, whatever the subjective viewpoint is. Some proposed to let random QAT and BN vote what to per controversial maps. Some are complaining ranking criteria is too relaxed and is causing the mess with controversial maps. Others propose to have the players vote if the QAT can't decide.

Ultimately, peoples have tastes differ yet those who have specific tastes and want to restrict controversial maps are the most dangerous. I am not sure whether they are aware or not of it because they can be just unhappy with how a mapper got away pushing an experimental map they don't approve of, and think nothing about how thier ideals would play out on a wider spectrum. Fears about maps curated to certain tastes and such.
Aiseca
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abraker
Meh it's a relatively cool 15 deg C

Tho what the hell is this

levesterz

abraker wrote:

Meh it's a relatively cool 15 deg C

Tho what the hell is this

Bunch of cancer(hororscope one) emoji.
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