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Okoayu
Nomination Assessment Team
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Okoayu
your argument is based around the assumption that sets are flawed ideas, but how is providing content to each playing level a flawed concept?

the current spread thing is boiling down to the same thing you described as ~just ranking more diffs as you move on~ except it waits for all the things you would make over the course of time moving on and based around the idea that full packages of content are to hit ranked status at the same time instead of diffs for specific audiences
Blitzfrog
389 posts
Joined March 2016
Blitzfrog
#agruingforlaziness

I support Abraker because I'm lazy too
abraker
Global Moderator
8,356 posts
Joined July 2014
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abraker

Okorin wrote:

your argument is based around the assumption that sets are flawed ideas, but how is providing content to each playing level a flawed concept?

the current spread thing is boiling down to the same thing you described as ~just ranking more diffs as you move on~ except it waits for all the things you would make over the course of time moving on and based around the idea that full packages of content are to hit ranked status at the same time instead of diffs for specific audiences
It is the same thing... for the player. Now for the mapper, especially new mappers that are considering whether to rank a map or not, this is a huge difference. It offers the flexibility to focus on individual difficulties instead of multiple difficulties. You also don't need a mapper giving up ranking entire mapset over some drama due to a diff that can and should be worked on later. There are so many mappers like me that bail on ranking because it's too much of a stretch to rank a full spread at a time. It's like giving a 70 page packet for you to finish whenever you feel like it. 70 pages feels intimidating, so you just push it a side to due something else. Now give a 2 page packet and you consider that you can get it done quickly enough not to take up much time. Then comes another 2 page packet, not too scary. Rinse and repeat. I'd say the current system with spreads works fine in most areas concerning quality, but it wasn't made with the thought of attracting mappers by understanding their psychology.
Railey2
515 posts
Joined February 2015
Railey2

abraker wrote:

The concept of spreads is a toxic idea from the beginning which now we can't imagine without of.
the most toxic idea that floats around in the contemporary mapping community, is pishifat's tenet that a ''good'' map should represent the song. He just made that up, but people like the idea because his voice is apparently so soothing that they forget to consider the massive obstacle they created by forcing an arbitrary creative restriction on mappers based on one guy's subjective preference.

What the hell was that fun vs. good video of his
fun is all the good. We're playing a rhythm game, not a two-dimensional song visualisation simulator.
Meah
733 posts
Joined November 2014
Meah

oh, saw abraker on around 5:30
johnmedina999
296 posts
Joined October 2016
johnmedina999

Meah wrote:

Is this why the thread exploded?
Meah
733 posts
Joined November 2014
Meah

johnmedina999 wrote:

Meah wrote:

Is this why the thread exploded?
The thread is interesting enough to explode :)
B1rd
2,974 posts
Joined December 2013
B1rd

Meah wrote:


oh, saw abraker on around 5:30
I would be so keen for that to happen.
Irreversible
osu! Alumni
4,317 posts
Joined December 2011
Irreversible
cs7
johnmedina999
296 posts
Joined October 2016
johnmedina999
Thanks mr Red
ColdTooth
1,108 posts
Joined June 2012
ColdTooth
od10
levesterz
188 posts
Joined September 2010
levesterz
Ar 10
ColdTooth
1,108 posts
Joined June 2012
ColdTooth
hp3
Railey2
515 posts
Joined February 2015
Railey2
cs global offensive
ColdTooth
1,108 posts
Joined June 2012
ColdTooth

Railey2 wrote:

cs global offensive
fuck that game
abraker
Global Moderator
8,356 posts
Joined July 2014
Topic Starter
abraker
CS2 AR9 HP5 Jump map or quit
ColdTooth
1,108 posts
Joined June 2012
ColdTooth

abraker wrote:

CS2 AR9 HP5 Jump map or quit
Making brb
levesterz
188 posts
Joined September 2010
levesterz

abraker wrote:

CS2 AR9 HP5 Jump map or quit
here ya go
abraker
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abraker

levesterz wrote:

abraker wrote:

CS2 AR9 HP5 Jump map or quit
here ya go
Needs a bit more work, but I actually how it came out. Except the end... nice try


Edit: After ~10 tries

levesterz
188 posts
Joined September 2010
levesterz

abraker wrote:

levesterz wrote:

abraker wrote:

CS2 AR9 HP5 Jump map or quit

here ya go
Needs a bit more work, but I actually how it came out. Except the end... nice try
Edit: After ~10 tries

Grats. i spend like 30 sec of placing random note there. kinda surprised you pass it
Last edited by levesterz , edited 2 times in total.
abraker
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abraker
* but I actually like how it came out.


Damn typos
fat pear
264 posts
Joined July 2014
fat pear
ne cro baump
abraker
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abraker
Oh this got revived. Ok then I will use the opportunity.

Peppy hates how the latest Aspire map breaks the game. However I think that the game should support such things. It's through this kind of creative mapping we move our creativity forward to the point we are asking for new mechanics to be implemented.

Speaking of mechanics, I want to see hold notes being supported as well as variable SV sliders. Just imagine having the slider go loopy-loop, slowing down, and end in a gentle stop. Man, the type of maps mappers would be able to create with that mechanic would be amazing. It just needs a ranking criteria of something like "Sliders are not to slow down or speed up more than X ps/s^s"
johnmedina999
296 posts
Joined October 2016
johnmedina999

abraker wrote:

SPOILER
Oh this got revived. Ok then I will use the opportunity.

Peppy hates how the latest Aspire map breaks the game. However I think that the game should support such things. It's through this kind of creative mapping we move our creativity forward to the point we are asking for new mechanics to be implemented.

Speaking of mechanics, I want to see hold notes being supported as well as variable SV sliders. Just imagine having the slider go loopy-loop, slowing down, and end in a gentle stop. Man, the type of maps mappers would be able to create with that mechanic would be amazing. It just needs a ranking criteria of something like "Sliders are not to slow down or speed up more than X ps/s^s"
א-o
abraker
Global Moderator
8,356 posts
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abraker
Spicy arguments whether "cv" or "CV" needs to be part of song title. Gets so ridiculous peppy himself comes and shuts them up: p/6011775
fat pear
264 posts
Joined July 2014
fat pear
no on else did anything wrong it was just alveryn tbh. he had to make such a huge deal out of two letters in a title
Foxtrot
1,165 posts
Joined April 2012
Foxtrot
>no BASARA
DO NOT KILL MODDERS' SPIRITS

t/24360
B1rd
2,974 posts
Joined December 2013
B1rd
No one did anything wrong except for peppy, who made them stop talking for no good reason. If people want to argue about CV vs cv, let them.
kai99
1,123 posts
Joined July 2013
kai99
RESUME

CV
ColdTooth
1,108 posts
Joined June 2012
ColdTooth
can we not have fucking double pp maps that are the same fucking thing except flipped or different sliders

like seriously no wonder why i stopped mapping
johnmedina999
296 posts
Joined October 2016
johnmedina999
I usually don't care but I have to agree with this.

The BN system is supposed to make sure each and every difficulty of every map up for ranking status is quality. I don't get how there can be two clearly identical maps with the only difference being that someone did Ctrl+a and Ctrl+h and still have that ranked.
ColdTooth
1,108 posts
Joined June 2012
ColdTooth

johnmedina999 wrote:

I usually don't care but I have to agree with this.

The BN system is supposed to make sure each and every difficulty of every map up for ranking status is quality. I don't get how there can be two clearly identical maps with the only difference being that someone did Ctrl+a and Ctrl+h and still have that ranked.
It's getting out of hand right now. People are accepting this, and the BN system isn't doing jack shit. They're letting people like Monstrata just speedrank over and over, and people like me out of the blue. 2016 I tried to get a map ranked, didn't work out, the year before, didn't work out. So far no luck on this year because BN system after my last map was ranked got shittier and shittier. It's just so bad now. And I feel like I expressed my opinion too much when I say this, people don't map for quality anymore, they map for quantity of pp, 6 insanes, 6 extras, and 1 easy. Fucking seriously.
levesterz
188 posts
Joined September 2010
levesterz

johnmedina999 wrote:

I usually don't care but I have to agree with this.

The BN system is supposed to make sure each and every difficulty of every map up for ranking status is quality. I don't get how there can be two clearly identical maps with the only difference being that someone did Ctrl+a and Ctrl+h and still have that ranked.
Ditto
fat pear
264 posts
Joined July 2014
fat pear
necro bump heres some more maping drama

https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/commen ... w_mappers/
t/671891
abraker
Global Moderator
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abraker
Hitsounds: Loctav vs Mapper
Softwarm
57 posts
Joined April 2014
Softwarm
yum
Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani
This drama is baby drama.

You need CDFA levels of drama.

Or this because it's my favorite even though it's not really drama it's just a fantastic moment in mapping history: p/2453976
johnmedina999
296 posts
Joined October 2016
johnmedina999
And you were there to experience it, lucky you.
abraker
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abraker

CDFA wrote:

Or this because it's my favorite even though it's not really drama it's just a fantastic moment in mapping history: p/2453976
the map looks like it was ahead of its time

CDFA wrote:

You need CDFA levels of drama.
please continue...
Caput Mortuum
1,854 posts
Joined March 2016
Caput Mortuum

CDFA wrote:

This drama is baby drama.

You need CDFA levels of drama.

Or this because it's my favorite even though it's not really drama it's just a fantastic moment in mapping history: p/2453976
wtf
Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani
Please elaborate on this.
Caput Mortuum
1,854 posts
Joined March 2016
Caput Mortuum
i would never come back if The Creator himself banished me personally
Ashton
2,039 posts
Joined February 2016
Ashton
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/567267/start=90


This was a fun one
abraker
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abraker

Canadian Baka wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/567267/start=90


This was a fun one
nice, but not sure if it's worth adding to the list considering how short it is
Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani

Canadian Baka wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/567267/start=90


This was a fun one
did u link your own drama lmao
ColdTooth
1,108 posts
Joined June 2012
ColdTooth

CDFA wrote:

Canadian Baka wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/567267/start=90


This was a fun one
did u link your own drama lmao
You could barely hear me giggle.
igorsprite
623 posts
Joined September 2015
igorsprite
lopkyy
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/530333/start=30
abraker
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abraker

Igor Sprite wrote:

lopkyy
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/530333/start=30
but fights over bg usage? lmfao this is rich

I should be able to go as far a being able to rank a beatmap with a black bg if I wanted to. bg is a non gameplay part of the map and only helps as a visual identifier while browsing.

Mara may disagree, but playing with no bg dim has little relevancy anymore. With the option to make it a non gameplay factor, its requirement shall be null and void
Mara
4,907 posts
Joined November 2009
Mara
You should probly add some titles/drama reasons next to the links.

Also it has little relevancy anymore, thanks to the people removing backgrounds which led peppy to add the dim. Bunch of casuals. 8-)
igorsprite
623 posts
Joined September 2015
igorsprite
i love this topic xD, mapping drama makes me laugh
Stefan
Global Moderator
10,425 posts
Joined January 2011
Stefan

abraker wrote:

Igor Sprite wrote:

lopkyy
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/530333/start=30
but fights over bg usage? lmfao this is rich
I am happy that I am not active anymore, I couldn't stand the stupidity of this with my age anymore.
abraker
Global Moderator
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abraker

Mara wrote:

You should probly add some titles/drama reasons next to the links.
done
fat pear
264 posts
Joined July 2014
fat pear

Igor Sprite wrote:

lopkyy
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/530333/start=30
it was kinda ur fault cuz u didnt wanna remove lopkyy from tags
ego_17
525 posts
Joined August 2011
ego_17
t/113868/start=60 drama about diff names
abraker
Global Moderator
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abraker

ego_17 wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/113868/start=60 drama about diff names
Should have just went with something like "I don't care Easy" and be done with it
abraker
Global Moderator
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abraker
latest one added
igorsprite
623 posts
Joined September 2015
igorsprite
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/725171/discussion
ColdTooth
1,108 posts
Joined June 2012
ColdTooth

igorsprite wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/725171/discussion
haha holy fuck im grabbing extra large popcorn tonight, this is good

jeez remind me not to map i guess, i can't even get anything ranked
abraker
Global Moderator
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abraker

igorsprite wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/725171/discussion
Already included in the last one. The reddit link offers context
Stefan
Global Moderator
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Stefan
Ruck feddit
abraker
Global Moderator
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abraker
Two new ones added

p/3344973 - Map is speedranked within 4 hours, Loctav decimates 2 BATS (assume unseen drama in pm /shrug)
p/4751468 - Mapper makes Easy and Normal diffs and cuts mp3 for tv sized song
ColdTooth
1,108 posts
Joined June 2012
ColdTooth
both are old though

:sigh:
abraker
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abraker
p/6294254 - Mapper creates map with extreme difficulty spikes



I am also thinking of providing descriptions of mapper arguments, the opposing arguments, and what ended up happening. The listings currently serves as a compilation for reference and I am thinking of expanding it to serve as an explanation for how things work and why things need to be done a certain way via the listed as examples. Might take a while for me to fill those in.
ColdTooth
1,108 posts
Joined June 2012
ColdTooth
OH BOY ANOTHER 8+* DIFFICULTY FROM KROYTZ AND 4 MAPS QUALIFIED FROM HIM AROUND THE SAME TIME

man i love 2017-2018 mapping, really makes this game so fun! lol jk i wanna fucking kms
Penguin
324 posts
Joined August 2013
Penguin
Oh man, I remember the Thunderclowns speedrank. It wasn't really much drama though. BATs got a slap on the wrist and that was the end of it.
VINXIS
Featured Artist
3,161 posts
Joined April 2014
VINXIS
can we make mapping drama in this thread about a list of mapping drama
Nathan
2,161 posts
Joined August 2014
Nathan

Mishima Yurara wrote:

can we make mapping drama in this thread about a list of mapping drama
holy VINXIS sTOP WRITING PP SONGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! can we DMCA all vinxis songs from this game
VINXIS
Featured Artist
3,161 posts
Joined April 2014
VINXIS
WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Nathan
2,161 posts
Joined August 2014
Nathan
hey guys while y'all here go check out my soundcloud im dropping new fire songs for mappers to make pp maps out of https://soundcloud.com/vinxis
VINXIS
Featured Artist
3,161 posts
Joined April 2014
VINXIS
E m i
E m i

ColdTooth wrote:

OH BOY ANOTHER 8+* DIFFICULTY FROM KROYTZ AND 4 MAPS QUALIFIED FROM HIM AROUND THE SAME TIME

man i love 2017-2018 mapping, really makes this game so fun! lol jk i wanna fucking kms
your new map will be cs4 ar8 od9 hp8 and 5 stars

hey i never said i don't like that
ColdTooth
1,108 posts
Joined June 2012
ColdTooth

Momi wrote:

ColdTooth wrote:

OH BOY ANOTHER 8+* DIFFICULTY FROM KROYTZ AND 4 MAPS QUALIFIED FROM HIM AROUND THE SAME TIME

man i love 2017-2018 mapping, really makes this game so fun! lol jk i wanna fucking kms
your new map will be cs4 ar8 od9 hp8 and 5 stars

hey i never said i don't like that
Actually, I rarely use whole numbers, I like decimals.
B1rd
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Joined December 2013
B1rd
Decimals are cancer.
johnmedina999
296 posts
Joined October 2016
johnmedina999
Wow I actually agree.

Fractions are superior.
ColdTooth
1,108 posts
Joined June 2012
ColdTooth
Atleast I don't use screen-jumps

I mean...

Okay, you got me, I will remove all of my maps from 2015-2017
abraker
Global Moderator
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abraker
we got new ones

p/6544737 - Map DQ'd due to a diff name without context to how hard it is
p/6535424 - Map DQ'd due to accumulated subjective reasoning from multiple QATs. Mapper proceeds to defend mapping style
abraker
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abraker
New one!

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/740752/d ... generalAll - Trying to rank a meme map
Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani
yeah we've never had a meme map ranked before this is a travesty who would think to do such a thing
abraker
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abraker
People take this game too seriously
ColdTooth
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Joined June 2012
ColdTooth

abraker wrote:

People take this game too seriously
Can be said again over the past few days, really.
Froslass
Beatmap Nominator
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Joined July 2008
Froslass
t/257876/start=90
abraker
Global Moderator
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abraker
added

ColdTooth wrote:

abraker wrote:

People take this game too seriously
Can be said again over the past few days, really.
play unranked. That's the way
abraker
Global Moderator
8,356 posts
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abraker
here we go

https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/commen ... dmcad_xdd/ - Sotark's pp meme map gets DMCA'd by a frustrated player
VinZentVanDough
174 posts
Joined December 2017
VinZentVanDough

abraker wrote:

here we go

https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/comments/8pzx27/sotarks_despacito_has_been_dmcad_xdd/ - Sotark's pp meme map gets DMCA'd by a frustrated player


ft. R3 Music Box
AyeAries
880 posts
Joined June 2015
AyeAries
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/628469/d ... ll#/368630 --->SV usage is excessive
abraker
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abraker

- Aries - wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/628469/discussion/-/generalAll#/368630 --->SV usage is excessive
Added

There is no shortage of mania sv maps in today's meta. While that is a good thing, the problem is that I hate sv.

,,, Sincerely,
Ranked is Dead
Ashton
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Joined February 2016
Ashton
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/749998/discussion/1579567/timeline/pending this ones pretty juicy
abraker
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abraker

neko-san da wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/749998/discussion/1579567/timeline/pending this ones pretty juicy
That's a gold mine boi!

I claim 75% of me earnings
Dialect
1,551 posts
Joined May 2018
Dialect
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/166689/start=102

idk if this is drama or not
abraker
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abraker

MinNin wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/166689/start=102

idk if this is drama or not
minor argument between a couple people, nothing really notable
AyeAries
880 posts
Joined June 2015
AyeAries
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/820695/d ... al#/454210

idk it's drama or not.....wtf the discussion is too long.......lazy to read XD
abraker
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abraker

- Aries - wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/820695/discussion/1720274/general#/454210

idk it's drama or not.....wtf the discussion is too long.......lazy to read XD
oh that's drama alright. Be sure to grab a whole bucket of popcorn for this one
fat pear
264 posts
Joined July 2014
fat pear
sorry for necrobump but i dont have any drama to share :) i want more drama :)
abraker
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abraker
Can someone here who follows the mapping scene tell me if there is something juicy going on?
johnmedina999
296 posts
Joined October 2016
johnmedina999
Something about Sotarks, most likely.
abraker
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abraker
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/823960/discussion/-/generalAll#/505116 - Mapper maps a 30 second cut to a previously mapped song; Argument that this is laziness and not quality

new one in a while, thanks CB
Quibbly
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Quibbly
Surprised no one got triggered at the necro
Westonini
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Westonini

Quibbly wrote:

Surprised no one got triggered at the necro

That's just because this thread isn't a shitpost and is actually interesting.
Quibbly
46 posts
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Quibbly

Westonini wrote:

Quibbly wrote:

Surprised no one got triggered at the necro

That's just because this thread isn't a shitpost and is actually interesting.

A LEGAL necro? le gasp
Serraionga
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Joined November 2014
Serraionga

abraker wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/823960/discussion/-/generalAll#/505116 - Mapper maps a 30 second cut to a previously mapped song; Argument that this is laziness and not quality
there's gonna be people saying "b-but other mappers do it so it's okay XD!!!1" over there isn't it

EDIT: yup, called it
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