Chima - Hajimari no Shirushi (Anime Size) · forum

ZekeyHache

Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2017-05-28T21:15:34+00:00

KittyAdventure wrote:
[ezekyanna's Mercenary]
00:07:225 (1) - Well, it's up to you but I think it's confused to see this flow TwT I don't see what makes it confusing
00:18:137 (2) - Overlap in 00:15:617 (1) - in head they're too far in time...
00:31:610 (3) - It's almost near with 00:30:768 (1) - maybe give a bit the spacing I don't see why, there's not overlap or weirdly close
00:32:452 (1) - Overlap in 00:30:768 (1) - in tail it's not necessary since they're too far in time
00:34:137 (1,2,3,4) - How about used this flow? The flow is pretty much the same, but since the design looks cleaner that way, I've applied this suggestion~
00:36:663 (2,3,4,1) - ^ nah
01:04:895 (2,3,4,5) - It's square flow? If not, better you overlap in 01:03:784 (5) with repair the blanket 01:04:339 (1) idk what you mean with the square flow thing , but I repaired my blanket and made the overlap with the notes that were supposed to blanket the slider
01:07:117 (3) - Overlap in 01:06:006 (1) - in head it's intentional and I don't see why this would be a problem

Shishou wrote:
[ezekyanna]

00:05:547 (1,2,3,) - i don't know. i think this flow is kinda bad if you think the flow is not good, then you have to explain why and give a suggestion
00:16:456 (2,3,4) - i think this should be space? I don't know what you mean, but I guess you want me to have a larger spacing; however, I used these anti-jumps to emphasize the transition in change in the music~
00:59:339 (1) - unstack this to emphasize the downbeat stacks can be used for emphasis too
01:01:006 (1) - ^ this is not even stacked
01:06:006 (1) - ^ same as the first one
01:12:673 (1) - ^ ^

Thanks for the mods! No reply on Wishkey cuz I don't drink alcohol I got nothing there :p

UpDaTe

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Nevo

Global Moderator

1,176 posts

Joined November 2015

Nevo 2017-05-30T00:47:13+00:00

bad m4m sorry

hard
00:28:242 (1) - maybe make this one the same distance away from the note its overlapping like the others

q

instead of what it currently is
01:12:117 (4) - the flow from 01:11:839 (3) - back to 4 and then down to 01:12:673 (5) - just doesn't feel all the good imo

i was kinda expecting something like

01:24:339 (1) - perhaps blanket this to 01:23:784 (2) - or make it symmetrical to 01:24:062 (3) -

tbh all the diffs seem completely fine

Last edited by Nevo 2017-05-30T00:47:42+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Mitkoff

351 posts

Joined January 2015

Mitkoff 2017-05-30T00:47:39+00:00

Hello,..
hmm actually i want to map this song by myself but find this set Orz... and it's pretty good...
i hope You willn't mind if i leave some thoughts about it?

i will be a bit picky, since i like song, don't be mad about it pls

[Easy]

00:47:610 (1,1) - If it's not supose to be similar shape sliders, so mb make a bit more calm visual flow like https://puu.sh/w4QLI.jpg
01:14:339 (1,2) - could be more even blanket ...
01:17:673 (1,2) - why these have different shape and 01:19:339 (2,1) - same? imo make 01:17:673 (1,1) - same visually better cause of geometric mirror... Also less curved wave looks better when placed on horizontal line. Hmm maybe 01:17:673 (1,2) - swap shapes or make all 3 of them equal?
01:21:006 (1,2,3,1) - it could be more symetry structured pattern by 01:21:006 (1,2) - 01:24:339 (1) - placed 2 this lines with same curve arounnd 01:22:672 (2,3) - 01:24:339 - triangle. Something like https://puu.sh/w4RDD.jpg . I thought about it because now your last slider looks like wanna go out from this map Xp, centralize it before spinner looks more neat imo

[Normal]

00:03:869 (1,2,3) - i feel like visual spacing could be a bit cleaner, like 00:04:708 (3) - spaced from 2 a bit more then from 1
00:13:099 (5,1) - imo just ctrl-j for 00:13:099 (5) - is enough since it's make clear follow way https://puu.sh/w4Tvj.jpg like -10 rotated (5)
00:31:610 (2,3,4) - i belive You can make more clear visual spacing as You did before. (4 degree rotate for 00:33:295 (4) - https://puu.sh/w4U2E.jpg)
Also 00:32:452 (3) - blanket a bit off as You can see on SS
00:51:779 (3) - might be make more sharp shape on this slider? For example: https://puu.sh/w4V77.jpg Right now it looks like You have lack of place and because of it You made 00:51:498 (2,3,4) - uneven visual flow, also You somewhy used sharp (with red anchors i mean) sliders only once at the beggining
00:24:873 (3,4) - and once at the end 01:19:339 (5) - , i think You may give them one more chance to show themself in place where it fits well . It's only my opinion orz (adress to 00:53:463 (6) - too)
00:59:339 (4,5,6) - Why did You ctrl-g rhythm here? 00:57:673 (1,2,3) - this part make emphasis in vocal plan in same way like next part, i think will be more intuitive to repeat rhythm to still folow vocal as You did in other diffs.
01:13:506 (6) - i think less curved slider like 01:16:006 (4) - looks nicer here. https://puu.sh/w4WE5.jpg (also same side curved sliders make more neat pattern and more clear flow imo)

[Advanced]

00:10:862 - i guess there is no beat... orz, or its too calm to make it clicable... but i can clearly hear 00:11:701 - beat wich is much stronger but still unclicable. i think https://puu.sh/w4XRU.jpg rhythm might work much better tbh
00:29:645 - i think it should be clicable since there is no vocals and beat here really strong, i can suggesst smthing like https://puu.sh/w4ZhE.jpg for emphasis stretched sounds 00:29:084 - 00:29:645 - . imo it works pretty well
00:29:926 (4,5,6,1) - i think spacing between these 4 objects can be cleaner(like equal visual spacing from 1 or 00:29:926 (4,5) - 00:30:487 (6,1) - parallel lines)
00:45:645 (3,4,5,1) - i belive these blankets could be a bit cleaner (https://puu.sh/w4YlW.jpg instead of https://puu.sh/w4Ynp.jpg)

[Hard]

tbh i have no idea how your flow and patterns should works here...

00:04:708 (4,5,6) - 00:05:827 (6,7,8) - might create equel angle
00:07:505 (2,2,4) - changing angle ( not 00:08:064 (1,2,3) - not 00:07:785 (3,1,3) - not 00:07:225 (1,2,3) - not even 00:06:386 (9,1,2) - ) just randomly new one it's just randomly change direction... why?
00:38:347 (1,2,3,4) - also your choosing angles is pretty questionable for me. 00:37:505 (1,2,3) - maybe 00:38:347 (1,2,3) - make them equal cause now they are not. Also 00:36:663 (7,1,2,3,1) - might be more symmetric
00:29:084 (4) - this flow changing also looks pretty sharp since don't even use 00:26:558 (6,1,2) - angle for being at least a bit consistency... yeah in this way You can emphasize strong sounds by create sharp flow, but it should be consistent i guess and be used for sounds like 00:30:768 (1) - also...
It looks like You are using strong geometric flow without strong geometric sence... it's prety wierd orz

And about mechanics:
i give most simple example: For sliders like 00:50:937 (1) - i should follow from start slider to middle, hold a bit (for pass it) and back to head. Same for 00:55:147 (4) - , but then i see 01:01:006 (1) - and actually the most simple way to follow it just don't come back to head (because next circle placed oposite cursor move and also ds somewhy increases which force me to do something different) and hold in middle more and after it continue move to next note..., so it's just different mechanics to pass this section, it feels pretty wierd since it's not high star technical map...

So, this map need more thought maybe, because your idea looks unclear, at least for me...

All for now.
I stop now since here 4 am and i need to wake up at 6.

kill me someone pls

Stack

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729 posts

Joined March 2015

Stack 2017-05-30T19:11:12+00:00

NM from my queue
Might be a bad mod as I normally prefer to mod higher diffs but as I have to learn how to mod everything I am giving this a shot

General
For some reason B3 (background 3?) is .png so you might want to make it into .jpg to reduce filesize https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/ciUj96x.png, B3 is also 1920x1200 instead of 1920x1080

I have no clue how you got the audio's filesize to 170kbps but you probably already know this

Hard
00:08:903 (4,5,6) - I like that 00:09:463 (5) - has a larger jump to it for the louder piano sound but then 00:09:743 (6) - is just spaced like you would with other normal notes although it also has that same volume piano

00:14:778 (2,3) - just my opinion but this just looks weird as you had this 00:13:938 (1,2) - flow very well into eachother but then suddenly you just make a 90 degree angle to get to the next object and then again to follow the slider

00:20:663 (1) - could use some more spacing, very important downbeat with loud vocal and piano

00:21:505 (4,5) - ^^

00:29:926 (5,6,7,1,2,3) - idk about this pattern, if it was your intention to use a wide angle to emphsise 00:30:768 (1) - then that may be a good idea but it just doesn't stand out enough beacause you are repeating the shape at 00:29:926 (5,6,7) - which doesn't have any important sounds (atleast not ones that are more way more important than the otehrs)
Maybe something like 00:37:505 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - where 00:38:347 (1) - really stands out would be better

01:16:006 (3,4,5,1,2,3) - I really like this pattern

ezekyanna's Mercenary
00:10:022 (4,1) - the way these overlap now is just not so nice, maybe try and fit it better inside of the slider?

00:16:456 (2,3,4,1) - this feels so out of place as it's the only spot where the 1/2 gaps are stacked like this, I would just keep going with those jumps like at 00:14:498 (2,3,4,5) - but maybe a bit smaller as they are quieter

00:18:137 (2,1,2) - I know it fits nicely as a blanket but 00:18:979 (1) - has low spacing for an important vocal+ instrumental sound and then you have the larger spacing for 00:19:259 (2) - which barely has an instrumental sound. It flows nicely but it doesn't fit the music imo

00:21:505 (4) - The sound of the piano is way different than the others but it's just mapped as another not in the pattern that doesn't stand out in any way, you made piano sounds stand out at 00:22:347 (1) - /00:24:031 (1) - /00:27:400 (1) - with larger spacing so why not here

01:21:839 (3,4,5) - These have very slightly different spacing

The only thing thats weird is this diff spike in the kiai 01:02:673 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -, Diff spike seems way too large. It's like "Ok, I'm mapping this song with like 2.5x ds max" and then suddenly you place 6 consecutive almost 3.5x ds jumps. But thats probably just me as 01:09:339 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - feels fine to me (probably beacause of a better builup in spacing and the shape continues as expected)
Also I don't know how geometrically correct you want this hexagon shape to be but it's pretty off https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/6LLIvs8.png

Gl with the map

Lilyanna

1,918 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Lilyanna 2017-06-02T09:02:49+00:00

sorry for taking so long to reply i try do as soon as possible.

Seolv

847 posts

Joined March 2016

Seolv 2017-06-03T20:12:49+00:00

short mod, modding only last diff since others were p good

ezekyanna

00:03:869 (1) - Why so big spacing? It doesn't have that much of an emphasizing in the song.
00:07:225 (1) - ^
00:11:980 (3) - ^
00:25:716 (1) - Why NC and why the change of flow? Ctrl+G
00:27:400 (1) - Very big spacing, why
00:32:452 (1) - Why NC?
01:02:673 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This song is overall very calm and slow so the big jumps aren't really reflecting any of the song, no sudden change in intensity or something, it's not even pp xd

nothing else to say about this map really, it's p good and the final diff still doesn't feel right cause of the song's intensity and stuff but you can change that if you want. I just thought it would reflect the song better if you used less spacing.
That was it, sorry for short mod

Lilyanna

1,918 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Lilyanna 2017-06-05T03:19:41+00:00

Nevo wrote:
bad m4m sorry
hard
00:28:242 (1) - maybe make this one the same distance away from the note its overlapping like the others its fine overlap
q
instead of what it currently is
01:12:117 (4) - the flow from 01:11:839 (3) - back to 4 and then down to 01:12:673 (5) - just doesn't feel all the good imo fixed

i was kinda expecting something like
01:24:339 (1) - perhaps blanket this to 01:23:784 (2) - or make it symmetrical to 01:24:062 (3) - its fine

tbh all the diffs seem completely fine

Mitkoff wrote:
Hello,..
hmm actually i want to map this song by myself but find this set Orz... and it's pretty good...
i hope You willn't mind if i leave some thoughts about it?
i will be a bit picky, since i like song, don't be mad about it pls

[Easy]
00:47:610 (1,1) - If it's not supose to be similar shape sliders, so mb make a bit more calm visual flow like https://puu.sh/w4QLI.jpg the slider 1 almost faded when the other one apeared i dont see a problem
01:14:339 (1,2) - could be more even blanket ... fixed
01:17:673 (1,2) - why these have different shape and 01:19:339 (2,1) - same? imo make 01:17:673 (1,1) - same visually better cause of geometric mirror... Also less curved wave looks better when placed on horizontal line. Hmm maybe 01:17:673 (1,2) - swap shapes or make all 3 of them equal? each one take different direction they should be fine tho
01:21:006 (1,2,3,1) - it could be more symetry structured pattern by 01:21:006 (1,2) - 01:24:339 (1) - placed 2 this lines with same curve arounnd 01:22:672 (2,3) - 01:24:339 - triangle. Something like https://puu.sh/w4RDD.jpg . I thought about it because now your last slider looks like wanna go out from this map Xp, centralize it before spinner looks more neat imo okay fixed
[Normal]
00:03:869 (1,2,3) - i feel like visual spacing could be a bit cleaner, like 00:04:708 (3) - spaced from 2 a bit more then from 1 idk what u mean exactly but fixed little spacing
00:13:099 (5,1) - imo just ctrl-j for 00:13:099 (5) - is enough since it's make clear follow way https://puu.sh/w4Tvj.jpg like -10 rotated (5) sure
00:31:610 (2,3,4) - i belive You can make more clear visual spacing as You did before. (4 degree rotate for 00:33:295 (4) - https://puu.sh/w4U2E.jpg) they look fine there nothing much i cant with ds snap xd
Also 00:32:452 (3) - blanket a bit off as You can see on SS
00:51:779 (3) - might be make more sharp shape on this slider? For example: https://puu.sh/w4V77.jpg Right now it looks like You have lack of place and because of it You made 00:51:498 (2,3,4) - uneven visual flow, also You somewhy used sharp (with red anchors i mean) sliders only once at the beggining i dont see the problem here xd

00:24:873 (3,4) - and once at the end 01:19:339 (5) - , i think You may give them one more chance to show themself in place where it fits well . It's only my opinion orz (adress to 00:53:463 (6) - too) i still dont get the issue its just way of mapping a style there isnt really a problem with the sliders or the flow
00:59:339 (4,5,6) - Why did You ctrl-g rhythm here? 00:57:673 (1,2,3) - this part make emphasis in vocal plan in same way like next part, i think will be more intuitive to repeat rhythm to still folow vocal as You did in other diffs. i think both way can expressed same its just little variation wont hurt i guess
01:13:506 (6) - i think less curved slider like 01:16:006 (4) - looks nicer here. https://puu.sh/w4WE5.jpg (also same side curved sliders make more neat pattern and more clear flow imo) i intentionaly want that different flow direction between 6 and 1 because new section new combo new pattern
[Advanced]
00:10:862 - i guess there is no beat... orz, or its too calm to make it clicable... but i can clearly hear 00:11:701 - beat wich is much stronger but still unclicable. i think https://puu.sh/w4XRU.jpg rhythm might work much better tbh there is clear piano i am following
00:29:645 - i think it should be clicable since there is no vocals and beat here really strong, i can suggesst smthing like https://puu.sh/w4ZhE.jpg for emphasis stretched sounds 00:29:084 - 00:29:645 - . imo it works pretty well the suggesting u gave me will make the drum sound on upbeat not clickable and idont want that also that piano sound is expressed nicely with slider hold and taill since this an advanced i see no wrong i like how its mapped
00:29:926 (4,5,6,1) - i think spacing between these 4 objects can be cleaner(like equal visual spacing from 1 or 00:29:926 (4,5) - 00:30:487 (6,1) - parallel lines) they look fine
00:45:645 (3,4,5,1) - i belive these blankets could be a bit cleaner (https://puu.sh/w4YlW.jpg instead of https://puu.sh/w4Ynp.jpg) fixed
[Hard]

tbh i have no idea how your flow and patterns should works here...
00:04:708 (4,5,6) - 00:05:827 (6,7,8) - might create equel angle fixed
00:07:505 (2,2,4) - changing angle ( not 00:08:064 (1,2,3) - not 00:07:785 (3,1,3) - not 00:07:225 (1,2,3) - not even 00:06:386 (9,1,2) - ) just randomly new one it's just randomly change direction... why? because the music
00:38:347 (1,2,3,4) - also your choosing angles is pretty questionable for me. 00:37:505 (1,2,3) - maybe 00:38:347 (1,2,3) - make them equal cause now they are not. Also 00:36:663 (7,1,2,3,1) - might be more symmetric
00:29:084 (4) - this flow changing also looks pretty sharp since don't even use 00:26:558 (6,1,2) - angle for being at least a bit consistency... yeah in this way You can emphasize strong sounds by create sharp flow, but it should be consistent i guess and be used for sounds like 00:30:768 (1) - also...
It looks like You are using strong geometric flow without strong geometric sence... it's prety wierd orz

And about mechanics:
i give most simple example: For sliders like 00:50:937 (1) - i should follow from start slider to middle, hold a bit (for pass it) and back to head. Same for 00:55:147 (4) - , but then i see 01:01:006 (1) - and actually the most simple way to follow it just don't come back to head (because next circle placed oposite cursor move and also ds somewhy increases which force me to do something different) and hold in middle more and after it continue move to next note..., so it's just different mechanics to pass this section, it feels pretty wierd since it's not high star technical map...

So, this map need more thought maybe, because your idea looks unclear, at least for me... idk how i reply these type of mods ill just sum up things i chose different directions to emphasise different music and sounds thats all i can say and for this 01:01:006 (1) - i want express the tensity of the vocals with music so i took that path

All for now.
I stop now since here 4 am and i need to wake up at 6. kill me someone pls

thank u for mod !

gottagof4ast wrote:
NM from my queue
Might be a bad mod as I normally prefer to mod higher diffs but as I have to learn how to mod everything I am giving this a shot

General
For some reason B3 (background 3?) is .png so you might want to make it into .jpg to reduce filesize https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/ciUj96x.png, B3 is also 1920x1200 instead of 1920x1080

I have no clue how you got the audio's filesize to 170kbps but you probably already know this

Hard
00:08:903 (4,5,6) - I like that 00:09:463 (5) - has a larger jump to it for the louder piano sound but then 00:09:743 (6) - is just spaced like you would with other normal notes although it also has that same volume piano because the emphasise with put on 00:09:463 (5) - if i also space the other
5 will lose its emphasise

00:14:778 (2,3) - just my opinion but this just looks weird as you had this 00:13:938 (1,2) - flow very well into eachother but then suddenly you just make a 90 degree angle to get to the next object and then again to follow the slider i dont see pproblem since the music felt stable when i put the 90 degree and then it back to the other flow if u know what i mean

00:20:663 (1) - could use some more spacing, very important downbeat with loud vocal and piano fixed

00:21:505 (4,5) - ^^ ok

00:29:926 (5,6,7,1,2,3) - idk about this pattern, if it was your intention to use a wide angle to emphsise 00:30:768 (1) - then that may be a good idea but it just doesn't stand out enough beacause you are repeating the shape at 00:29:926 (5,6,7) - which doesn't have any important sounds (atleast not ones that are more way more important than the otehrs)
Maybe something like 00:37:505 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - where 00:38:347 (1) - really stands out would be better but they take differnt direction and flow even tho they look same

01:16:006 (3,4,5,1,2,3) - I really like this pattern thx

ezekyanna's Mercenary
00:10:022 (4,1) - the way these overlap now is just not so nice, maybe try and fit it better inside of the slider?

00:16:456 (2,3,4,1) - this feels so out of place as it's the only spot where the 1/2 gaps are stacked like this, I would just keep going with those jumps like at 00:14:498 (2,3,4,5) - but maybe a bit smaller as they are quieter

00:18:137 (2,1,2) - I know it fits nicely as a blanket but 00:18:979 (1) - has low spacing for an important vocal+ instrumental sound and then you have the larger spacing for 00:19:259 (2) - which barely has an instrumental sound. It flows nicely but it doesn't fit the music imo okay i ctrl g 1 and 2

00:21:505 (4) - The sound of the piano is way different than the others but it's just mapped as another not in the pattern that doesn't stand out in any way, you made piano sounds stand out at 00:22:347 (1) - /00:24:031 (1) - /00:27:400 (1) - with larger spacing so why not here but they are expressed same wy xd

01:21:839 (3,4,5) - These have very slightly different spacing fixed

The only thing thats weird is this diff spike in the kiai 01:02:673 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -, Diff spike seems way too large. It's like "Ok, I'm mapping this song with like 2.5x ds max" and then suddenly you place 6 consecutive almost 3.5x ds jumps. But thats probably just me as 01:09:339 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - feels fine to me (probably beacause of a better builup in spacing and the shape continues as expected)
Also I don't know how geometrically correct you want this hexagon shape to be but it's pretty off https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/6LLIvs8.png
no reply is ezek part

Gl with the map

[ L u k a s ] wrote:
short mod, modding only last diff since others were p good

ezekyanna

00:03:869 (1) - Why so big spacing? It doesn't have that much of an emphasizing in the song.
00:07:225 (1) - ^
00:11:980 (3) - ^
00:25:716 (1) - Why NC and why the change of flow? Ctrl+G nc because consistent and change of flow because emphasise piano
00:27:400 (1) - Very big spacing, why
00:32:452 (1) - Why NC?
01:02:673 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This song is overall very calm and slow so the big jumps aren't really reflecting any of the song, no sudden change in intensity or something, it's not even pp xd

nothing else to say about this map really, it's p good and the final diff still doesn't feel right cause of the song's intensity and stuff but you can change that if you want. I just thought it would reflect the song better if you used less spacing.
That was it, sorry for short mod

no reply for ezek part

thank u for mod everyone

Nokashi

304 posts

Joined December 2014

Nokashi 2017-06-10T07:57:42+00:00

Hello There!
As promised long ago!

Easy
You could try to NC every 2 downbeats to not overly clutter your new Combos

00:05:547 (2) - You could split this into 2 circles to get the better effect on the prominent sounds here which exist in both the sliderhead and sliderend
00:10:582 (1) - I'd rather you didnt use the reverse here cause it kinda overlaps this strong beat 00:12:260 - . However I understand the need for variety so you could try to place the 1/1 reverse here instead 00:07:225 (1) - and making this 00:09:743 - a circle
00:13:938 (1,2) - You could make this symmetrical, since you use a lot of symmetry in your placements throughout the map
00:29:084 - Try making a 1/1 slider start here instead. Having 2 circle in a row when they are kinda different musically breaks the emphasis on 00:30:768 (1) -
00:34:137 (1) - Should have been a 1/1 reverse, consistency with 00:20:663 (1) - . Also its the more logical choice since 00:36:663 - this is made clickable
00:54:305 (1) - Vocal isnt really similar with 00:47:610 (1) - as in, it doesnt land on all the white ticks in the reverse. Thus I would rather make this a 1/1 slider instead and starting a new 1/1 slider from here 00:55:989 - to emphasize the vocal once more
01:17:673 (1,2) - The slider anchors here feel a bit unintuitive aesthetically i would rather make the wave show more it just looks awkward at its current state

Normal
As it stands i feel like there is a spread issue here between this diff and the "Easy". While the easy mostly has 1/1 and no 1/2 the normal is filled with 1/2 rhythms with a lot of clicks making the transition really sudden and the spread suprisingly uneven. Following suggestions should work on fixing some the rhythms here

00:06:386 (6) - This utilizes 1/2 snap for no reason. This a normal diff so you shouldnt really focus on the background layers. Instead focus on the more dominant sounds by making this a 1/1 slider
00:07:225 (1,2) - Would work better as 1/2 reverse the circle there is pretty excessive
00:10:582 (1,2) - 1/1 slider to emphasize the hold better
00:15:617 (4,5) - Again here, a 1/1 slider would compliment the more prominent sounds here better
00:22:347 (4,5) - 1/1 slider here to reduce density
00:24:873 (3) - The red anchors a bit too close to the sliderhead/slideend. Shape definitely could be improved here
00:27:400 (1) - 1/1 slider for the vocal hold
00:30:768 (1) - Dominant instrument implies a 1/1 slider here
00:32:452 (3) - 1/1 slider here, consistency with 00:18:979 (3) -
00:49:295 (4) - 1/1 slider could work here for the vocals
00:57:673 (1,2) - 1/1 slider for the vocal hold
00:59:339 (4) - Similar point as above ( consistency with 01:06:006 (4) - as well )
01:04:339 (1,2) - Same^
01:11:006 (1,2) - Yup same ^
01:17:673 (1,2) - Also 1/1 slider here
01:24:339 (1) - 1/1 slider for the vocal hold and rhythm differentiation with the other 2 reverses

These should help reduce density to an extent however this definitely needs another look from someone else

Advanced

00:05:547 (5,6) - It would be more optimal to use a similar rhythm to 00:12:260 (6,7) - for the added consistency and emphasis on the held note
00:08:064 (4) - the ticks that land on this reverse are drastically stronger than 00:07:225 (1,2,3) - which are made clickable. I would suggest this 00:07:225 (1,2,3) - being the reverse and this 00:08:064 (4) - being the 3 clickable notes. Same applies for 00:08:903 (5,6,7,8) - . Ctrl G this rhythm as well
00:13:938 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Similar point with this rhythm, needs some rework
00:20:663 (1) - 1/1 Slider would work better to better accentuate the vocals
00:27:400 (1) - Similar point here^
00:30:768 (1) - Also a 1/1 slider for the string accentuation
00:40:873 (1,2,3) - 1/1 here also, generally 1/1 sliders would better accentuate sounds that are underwhelmed by the constant 1/2
00:49:295 (5) - 1/1 here also, you can understand at this point i assume
01:03:506 (6,1) - Visual distancing is a bit questionable here, the transition should allow for some more intesity. You could try a 3 circle pattern for the extra emphasis on the vocals
01:07:673 (1) - 1/1 slider, consistency with .. basically every vocal hold
01:10:173 (6,1) - Similar point with the visual distance issue with 01:03:506 (6,1) -
01:21:006 (1) - 1/1 slider for consistency

Hard

00:05:547 (5,6,7,8) - should follow a consistent rhythmic expression as 00:12:260 (5,6) - . Also on the second rhythm, 00:11:421 (4) - this feel like it overwhelms strong beats that could have been made clickable
00:08:903 (4,5) - Provided you follow a consistent DS Basis, this is inconsistent by a long shot for no reason since there isnt any particular sound that stands out here
00:13:938 (1,2) - Reeally contrasts the density in clickabily with its counterpart 00:07:225 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - . You also dont utilize the same NC mechanic making seem really inconsistent. Also i suggest dropping this NC mechanic since u dont it consistently so it seems rather offputting
00:30:768 (1,2,3) - Having 2 sets of circles between 2 sound layers feels a bit weird since there isnt any apparent transition. In my opinion its better to place a 1/1 slider here
00:41:434 (3,4) - Some unnecessary spacing here
00:48:172 (3,4) - Visual distancing is a bit low here you could spread out this pattern a tad bit to take up more space on the playfield, its kinda cluttered as it stands
00:50:937 (1,3) - These 2 would well as a 1/2 slider -> circle rhythm to emphasize the vocals better
01:01:006 (1,2) - If you were to switch to a non-consistent DS Mechanic on the kiai, this is not the optimal place imo. 01:01:839 (2,3) - This however should allow some more spacing to be had, consistency with the accentuated vocal on 01:03:228 (5,1) -
01:09:895 (5,1) - Inconsistent spacing with 01:03:228 (5,1) - . Then again you should drop the spacing on 01:03:228 (5,1) - a bit
01:12:117 (4,5) - You never emphasized this before so its weird to me that you did it now
01:16:561 (5,1) - After seeing the spacing here i believe this jump 01:03:228 (5,1) - should be nerfed
01:23:228 (7,1) - Also this jump could be increased
01:24:062 (3,1) - This spacing doesnt really fit your spacing emphasis. The vocal is dying down and yet this has the most spacing out of all the jumps in this difficulty. Definitely lower

ezekyanna's Mercenary

00:04:708 (4,1,2,3) - To be honest you could form a consistent rhythm with 00:11:980 (3,1) - . It compliments the song better imo
00:16:456 (2,3,4) - having 3 clickable objects so close together to represent something that you used higher spacing to accentuate previously seems really underwhelming. I would suggest something more spaced or a rhythm incorporating sliders
00:20:663 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - these circles dont accentuate rhythm at all does to the 1/2 nature. Nothing in the song here indicates a consistent 1/2 click pattern. Try to use more sliders here for the dominant sounds
00:24:873 (4) - 1/2 slider -> circle would work nicely here instead to make the vocal on 00:25:435 -
00:27:119 (4,1) - this jump is a bit too much for the intensity provided
00:42:277 (6,1) - I Dont understand why this was directly stacked tbh. the beat on the slider is really strong but theres no movement to get to it
00:48:733 (5,6) - Also proportionally this shouldnt have that much spacing considering there is more of a vocal hold here instead of a 1/2 choppy vocal
00:59:061 (5,1) - Again having this stacked is really awkward, as its really underwhelming . Same here 01:05:728 (5,1) -
00:59:895 (2,3) - CTRLGing the rhythm here would emphasize the vocal better. same here 01:13:228 (2,3) -
01:01:839 (3,4) - In order to disperse the jumps a bit you could make this a 1/2 slider to emphasize the instrument thats kinda prominent on 01:01:841 -
01:05:173 (3,4) - Similar point here^

Jumps on this feel really big and forced for the song provided. On the kiai, try to differentiate strings of jumps on 1/2 vocals and more slider oriented rhythm on everywhere else to at least emphasize some of the spacing

Best of Luck~!

Lilyanna

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Topic Starter

Lilyanna 2017-06-14T12:14:07+00:00

Nokashi wrote:
Hello There! hi
As promised long ago!

Easy
You could try to NC every 2 downbeats to not overly clutter your new Combos okay
00:05:547 (2) - You could split this into 2 circles to get the better effect on the prominent sounds here which exist in both the sliderhead and sliderend fixed
00:10:582 (1) - I'd rather you didnt use the reverse here cause it kinda overlaps this strong beat 00:12:260 - . However I understand the need for variety so you could try to place the 1/1 reverse here instead 00:07:225 (1) - and making this 00:09:743 - a circle i think it should be fine here its just simplified and it fits the piano
00:13:938 (1,2) - You could make this symmetrical, since you use a lot of symmetry in your placements throughout the map its not rly big issue but i adjusted the slider
00:29:084 - Try making a 1/1 slider start here instead. Having 2 circle in a row when they are kinda different musically breaks the emphasis on 00:30:768 (1) - its same as the other one i am trying to keep up holding the slider with revers with that piano sound
00:34:137 (1) - Should have been a 1/1 reverse, consistency with 00:20:663 (1) - . Also its the more logical choice since 00:36:663 - this is made clickable fixed
00:54:305 (1) - Vocal isnt really similar with 00:47:610 (1) - as in, it doesnt land on all the white ticks in the reverse. Thus I would rather make this a 1/1 slider instead and starting a new 1/1 slider from here 00:55:989 - to emphasize the vocal once more i get it but instead i removed the revers and added a circle because i dont want add 1/1 and tails ends up on strong finish sound
01:17:673 (1,2) - The slider anchors here feel a bit unintuitive aesthetically i would rather make the wave show more it just looks awkward at its current statetrue fixed

Normal
As it stands i feel like there is a spread issue here between this diff and the "Easy". While the easy mostly has 1/1 and no 1/2 the normal is filled with 1/2 rhythms with a lot of clicks making the transition really sudden and the spread suprisingly uneven. Following suggestions should work on fixing some the rhythms here
00:06:386 (6) - This utilizes 1/2 snap for no reason. This a normal diff so you shouldnt really focus on the background layers. Instead focus on the more dominant sounds by making this a 1/1 slider
00:07:225 (1,2) - Would work better as 1/2 reverse the circle there is pretty excessive
00:10:582 (1,2) - 1/1 slider to emphasize the hold better
00:15:617 (4,5) - Again here, a 1/1 slider would compliment the more prominent sounds here better
00:22:347 (4,5) - 1/1 slider here to reduce density
00:24:873 (3) - The red anchors a bit too close to the sliderhead/slideend. Shape definitely could be improved here
00:27:400 (1) - 1/1 slider for the vocal hold
00:30:768 (1) - Dominant instrument implies a 1/1 slider here ill leave this its fine also aesthaticaly look nice idont want ruin it :!!!
00:32:452 (3) - 1/1 slider here, consistency with 00:18:979 (3) - eh its fine small variation the both patterns works tbh
00:49:295 (4) - 1/1 slider could work here for the vocals
00:57:673 (1,2) - 1/1 slider for the vocal hold
00:59:339 (4) - Similar point as above ( consistency with 01:06:006 (4) - as well )
01:04:339 (1,2) - Same^
01:11:006 (1,2) - Yup same ^
01:17:673 (1,2) - Also 1/1 slider here
01:24:339 (1) - 1/1 slider for the vocal hold and rhythm differentiation with the other 2 reverses
These should help reduce density to an extent however this definitely needs another look from someone elseno reply is fixed

Advanced
00:05:547 (5,6) - It would be more optimal to use a similar rhythm to 00:12:260 (6,7) - for the added consistency and emphasis on the held note but .. they dont sound same to me
00:08:064 (4) - the ticks that land on this reverse are drastically stronger than 00:07:225 (1,2,3) - which are made clickable. I would suggest this 00:07:225 (1,2,3) - being the reverse and this 00:08:064 (4) - being the 3 clickable notes. Same applies for 00:08:903 (5,6,7,8) - . Ctrl G this rhythm as well i dont agree with this i believe since they experessed diffently and almost have the same tensity the pattern works either ways so keeping it xd
00:13:938 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Similar point with this rhythm, needs some rework
00:20:663 (1) - 1/1 Slider would work better to better accentuate the vocals i want highlight the piano more and its still counts as hold slider the player will still hold for the repeat therefore the vocals still feel emphasized
00:27:400 (1) - Similar point here^
00:30:768 (1) - Also a 1/1 slider for the string accentuation
00:40:873 (1,2,3) - 1/1 here also, generally 1/1 sliders would better accentuate sounds that are underwhelmed by the constant 1/2 same as above i want highlight few piano notes
00:49:295 (5) - 1/1 here also, you can understand at this point i assume yes but same reply as above if i do that it will almost feel like the normal :/
01:03:506 (6,1) - Visual distancing is a bit questionable here, the transition should allow for some more intesity. You could try a 3 circle pattern for the extra emphasis on the vocals i think its fine
01:07:673 (1) - 1/1 slider, consistency with .. basically every vocal hold okay fixed
01:10:173 (6,1) - Similar point with the visual distance issue with 01:03:506 (6,1) - i dont see issue on visualy distance since i did that more than once and this is advanced
01:21:006 (1) - 1/1 slider for consistency here tbh the piano sound is stronger i would like to keep it different from other

Hard
00:05:547 (5,6,7,8) - should follow a consistent rhythmic expression as 00:12:260 (5,6) - . Also on the second rhythm, 00:11:421 (4) - this feel like it overwhelms strong beats that could have been made clickable true fixed
00:08:903 (4,5) - Provided you follow a consistent DS Basis, this is inconsistent by a long shot for no reason since there isnt any particular sound that stands out here i wanted emphasize this strong piano note 00:09:463 (5) - also i did that same on the whole map so i was consistent
00:13:938 (1,2) - Reeally contrasts the density in clickabily with its counterpart 00:07:225 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - . You also dont utilize the same NC mechanic making seem really inconsistent. Also i suggest dropping this NC mechanic since u dont it consistently so it seems rather offputting i did the nc on how the map is structured i saperated 6 hitcircles with nc each time
00:30:768 (1,2,3) - Having 2 sets of circles between 2 sound layers feels a bit weird since there isnt any apparent transition. In my opinion its better to place a 1/1 slider here i dont understand ur point it fits good with music the circles and the flow u can hear piano going up and then notes goes back down
00:41:434 (3,4) - Some unnecessary spacing here yes i told u i repeated that its consistent so its fine and i said i wanted emphasize that piano on (5)
00:48:172 (3,4) - Visual distancing is a bit low here you could spread out this pattern a tad bit to take up more space on the playfield, its kinda cluttered as it stands its just visual it doesnt make problem :c also it doesnt look that bad
00:50:937 (1,3) - These 2 would well as a 1/2 slider -> circle rhythm to emphasize the vocals better it still does this way better it keeps flow going dont like the gap :c
01:01:006 (1,2) - If you were to switch to a non-consistent DS Mechanic on the kiai, this is not the optimal place imo. 01:01:839 (2,3) - This however should allow some more spacing to be had, consistency with the accentuated vocal on 01:03:228 (5,1) - i dont get ur point her :c
01:09:895 (5,1) - Inconsistent spacing with 01:03:228 (5,1) - . Then again you should drop the spacing on 01:03:228 (5,1) - a bit
01:12:117 (4,5) - You never emphasized this before so its weird to me that you did it now
01:16:561 (5,1) - After seeing the spacing here i believe this jump 01:03:228 (5,1) - should be nerfed
01:23:228 (7,1) - Also this jump could be increased
01:24:062 (3,1) - This spacing doesnt really fit your spacing emphasis. The vocal is dying down and yet this has the most spacing out of all the jumps in this difficulty. Definitely lowerno reply fixed ! all spacing!

ezekyanna's Mercenary
00:20:663 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - these circles dont accentuate rhythm at all does to the 1/2 nature. Nothing in the song here indicates a consistent 1/2 click pattern. Try to use more sliders here for the dominant sounds there is piano also jumps arent big and i did sliders after i just wanted ti variate btw they are 1/6 XD
00:24:873 (4) - 1/2 slider -> circle would work nicely here instead to make the vocal on 00:25:435 - u mean 1/6 circle fixed
00:27:119 (4,1) - this jump is a bit too much for the intensity provided fixed
00:48:733 (5,6) - Also proportionally this shouldnt have that much spacing considering there is more of a vocal hold here instead of a 1/2 choppy vocal they dont feel that big i fixed little
Jumps on this feel really big and forced for the song provided. On the kiai, try to differentiate strings of jumps on 1/2 vocals and more slider oriented rhythm on everywhere else to at least emphasize some of the spacing
we fixed that i guess x)

Best of Luck~!

thx for mod ~~ill reply last difficulty when ezek gives me updates~~ done x)

Last edited by Lilyanna 2017-06-19T12:42:17+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

ZekeyHache

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ZekeyHache 2017-06-17T02:40:55+00:00

~~reminder post~~~

gottagof4ast wrote:
ezekyanna's Mercenary
00:10:022 (4,1) - the way these overlap now is just not so nice, maybe try and fit it better inside of the slider? applied

00:16:456 (2,3,4,1) - this feels so out of place as it's the only spot where the 1/2 gaps are stacked like this, I would just keep going with those jumps like at 00:14:498 (2,3,4,5) - but maybe a bit smaller as they are quieter the reason why these are different from the rest is because they're marking/emphasizing a change in the music; it's like a symbolical transition~

The only thing thats weird is this diff spike in the kiai 01:02:673 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -, Diff spike seems way too large. It's like "Ok, I'm mapping this song with like 2.5x ds max" and then suddenly you place 6 consecutive almost 3.5x ds jumps. But thats probably just me as 01:09:339 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - feels fine to me (probably beacause of a better builup in spacing and the shape continues as expected) I don't believe the diff spike is too large. The song is slow, so the jumps look scary in the editor, but they're not that challenging when you actually play them. It also emphasizes vocals + this is kiai time + this is the highest diff, so nah, I'm not chaging stuff here~
Also I don't know how geometrically correct you want this hexagon shape to be but it's pretty off https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/6LLIvs8.png it's not intended to be a shape

Gl with the map

[ L u k a s ] wrote:
short mod, modding only last diff since others were p good

ezekyanna

00:03:869 (1) - Why so big spacing? It doesn't have that much of an emphasizing in the song. I believe this is correctly emphasized. The sound is important enough to deserve that jump imo
00:07:225 (1) - ^
00:11:980 (3) - ^ same with these two
00:32:452 (1) - Why NC? uh? for consistency, we're putting nc every half downbeat :/
01:02:673 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This song is overall very calm and slow so the big jumps aren't really reflecting any of the song, no sudden change in intensity or something, it's not even pp xd since you're the second person complaining, I've decided to reduce the spacing a bit~

Nokashi wrote:
ezekyanna's Mercenary
00:04:708 (4,1,2,3) - To be honest you could form a consistent rhythm with 00:11:980 (3,1) - . It compliments the song better imo They don't sound the same, so I don't see why make them consistent
00:16:456 (2,3,4) - having 3 clickable objects so close together to represent something that you used higher spacing to accentuate previously seems really underwhelming. I would suggest something more spaced or a rhythm incorporating sliders I'm using these antijumps to emphasize a change in the music, as I explained before "the reason why these are different from the rest is because they're marking/emphasizing a change in the music; it's like a symbolical transition~"
00:42:277 (6,1) - I Dont understand why this was directly stacked tbh. the beat on the slider is really strong but theres no movement to get to it both sounds (circle and slider head) are very noticeable and stand out more than the rest of surrounding sounds, so I decided to emphasize them together in a stack rather than making a sudden jump
00:59:061 (5,1) - Again having this stacked is really awkward, as its really underwhelming . Same here 01:05:728 (5,1) - After testing, I can agree on this one, so yeah, applied
00:59:895 (2,3) - CTRLGing the rhythm here would emphasize the vocal better. same here 01:13:228 (2,3) - I worked on these patterns for that now~
01:01:839 (3,4) - In order to disperse the jumps a bit you could make this a 1/2 slider to emphasize the instrument thats kinda prominent on 01:01:841 - I agree, applied!
01:05:173 (3,4) - Similar point here^ I disagree on this one, I need the circle for the vocal

Best of Luck~!

Thanks for the mods! ^w^

sr dropped from 3.54 to 3.49 :v

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295,338,40873,5,2,0:0:0:0:
334,213,41154,1,0,0:0:0:0:
184,262,41435,1,0,0:0:0:0:
377,303,41716,1,0,3:0:0:0:
219,354,41996,1,0,0:0:0:0:
228,160,42277,1,0,0:0:0:0:
228,160,42558,6,0,L|187:81,1,86.6666666666667,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
0,71,43119,2,0,L|41:150,1,86.6666666666667,0|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
277,186,43680,2,0,L|236:107,1,86.6666666666667
0,102,44242,6,0,L|39:178,2,86.6666666666667,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
97,255,45084,2,0,B|137:219|135:161|135:161|151:199|199:225,1,173.333333333333,0|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
439,104,45926,6,0,L|399:180,2,86.6666666666667,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
342,257,46768,2,0,B|302:221|304:163|304:163|288:201|240:227,1,173.333333333333,0|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
217,83,47610,5,2,0:0:0:0:
178,212,47891,1,0,0:0:0:0:
260,214,48172,1,0,0:0:0:0:
219,326,48452,1,0,3:0:0:0:
115,342,48733,1,0,0:0:0:0:
319,340,49014,1,0,0:0:0:0:
377,213,49295,6,0,P|380:161|374:126,2,86.6666666666667,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
269,35,50137,2,0,P|266:87|272:122,2,86.6666666666667,0|0|0,3:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
157,168,50937,5,2,0:0:0:0:
97,265,51217,1,0,0:0:0:0:
67,100,51498,1,0,0:0:0:0:
178,279,51779,2,0,P|144:330|37:323,1,173.333333333333,0|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
273,206,52621,5,2,0:0:0:0:
333,109,52901,1,0,0:0:0:0:
363,274,53182,1,0,0:0:0:0:
252,95,53463,2,0,P|286:44|393:51,1,173.333333333333,0|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
193,150,54305,6,0,P|173:97|182:56,2,86.6666666666667,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
263,261,55147,2,0,P|280:314|270:354,2,86.6666666666667,0|0|0,3:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
252,95,55989,1,2,0:0:0:0:
206,310,56270,1,0,0:0:0:0:
181,67,56551,1,0,3:0:0:0:
274,343,56832,1,4,0:0:0:0:
117,104,57112,2,0,P|110:51|126:17,1,86.6666666666667
274,343,57673,6,0,P|237:377|192:382,1,86.6666666666667,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
27,262,58228,1,0,0:0:0:0:
206,310,58506,1,0,3:0:0:0:
26,352,58784,1,0,0:0:0:0:
206,310,59061,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,109,59339,6,0,P|175:59|181:19,1,86.6666666666667,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
359,114,59895,2,0,P|366:164|360:204,1,86.6666666666667,0|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
183,291,60450,2,0,P|178:248|185:205,1,86.6666666666667
357,29,61006,6,0,P|364:79|358:119,1,86.6666666666667,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
213,187,61561,1,0,0:0:0:0:
289,31,61839,2,0,P|296:81|290:121,1,86.6666666666667,0|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
161,8,62395,1,0,0:0:0:0:
347,121,62673,5,2,0:0:0:0:
119,72,62950,1,0,0:0:0:0:
189,297,63228,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,58,63506,1,0,3:0:0:0:
75,227,63784,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,254,64061,1,0,0:0:0:0:
97,114,64339,6,0,P|55:105|5:114,1,86.6666666666667,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
163,167,64895,1,0,0:0:0:0:
78,20,65173,1,0,3:0:0:0:
51,192,65450,1,0,0:0:0:0:
185,90,65728,1,0,0:0:0:0:
14,254,66006,6,0,P|54:274|103:273,1,86.6666666666667,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
295,228,66561,2,0,P|254:207|205:208,1,86.6666666666667,0|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
356,341,67117,2,0,P|394:359|437:358,1,86.6666666666667
232,296,67673,6,0,L|214:388,2,86.6666666666667,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
197,54,68506,1,0,0:0:0:0:
241,176,68784,1,0,0:0:0:0:
325,77,69061,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,160,69339,5,2,0:0:0:0:
337,199,69617,1,0,0:0:0:0:
117,81,69895,1,0,0:0:0:0:
291,260,70173,1,4,0:0:0:0:
193,25,70450,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,304,70728,1,0,0:0:0:0:
396,49,71006,6,0,P|398:92|378:130,1,86.6666666666667,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
193,25,71561,1,0,0:0:0:0:
308,158,71839,1,0,3:0:0:0:
153,102,72117,1,0,0:0:0:0:
328,70,72395,1,0,0:0:0:0:
328,70,72673,6,0,P|383:71|422:99,1,86.6666666666667,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
184,183,73228,1,0,0:0:0:0:
184,183,73506,2,0,P|129:182|90:154,1,86.6666666666667,0|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,161,74061,1,0,0:0:0:0:
353,75,74339,6,0,P|408:76|447:104,1,86.6666666666667,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
252,51,74895,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,161,75173,1,0,3:0:0:0:
360,257,75450,1,0,0:0:0:0:
380,147,75728,1,0,0:0:0:0:
254,265,76006,5,4,0:0:0:0:
252,51,76284,1,0,0:0:0:0:
309,318,76561,1,0,0:0:0:0:
108,208,76839,1,0,3:0:0:0:
334,65,77117,1,0,0:0:0:0:
212,315,77395,1,0,0:0:0:0:
77,136,77673,6,0,P|40:171|35:229,1,86.6666666666667,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
167,102,78228,1,0,0:0:0:0:
167,102,78506,2,0,P|204:67|209:9,2,86.6666666666667,0|0|0,3:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
116,295,79339,6,0,L|107:200,1,86.6666666666667,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
140,34,79895,1,0,0:0:0:0:
187,174,80172,1,0,3:0:0:0:
89,96,80450,1,0,0:0:0:0:
245,120,80728,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,342,81006,6,0,P|363:282|352:245,1,86.6666666666667,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
341,114,81561,1,0,0:0:0:0:
341,114,81839,1,0,3:0:0:0:
237,48,82117,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,106,82395,1,0,0:0:0:0:
263,314,82672,5,2,0:0:0:0:
206,117,82950,1,0,0:0:0:0:
90,257,83228,1,0,0:0:0:0:
324,198,83506,1,0,3:0:0:0:
71,158,83784,1,0,0:0:0:0:
313,49,84061,1,0,0:0:0:0:
176,48,84339,6,0,L|82:43,2,86.6666666666667,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
313,49,85172,2,0,L|407:44,2,86.6666666666667,0|0|0,3:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
268,181,86006,5,2,0:0:0:0:
213,255,86284,1,0,0:0:0:0:
299,270,86561,1,0,0:0:0:0:
247,160,86839,5,0,0:0:0:0:
219,278,87117,1,0,0:0:0:0:
318,246,87394,1,0,3:0:0:0:
256,192,87672,12,0,88922,0:0:0:0:

^

Lilyanna

1,918 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Lilyanna 2017-06-19T12:45:29+00:00

Updated beatmap!

Nao Tomori

Nomination Assessment Team

3,089 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2017-06-20T04:07:58+00:00

m4m

for the love of god remove furry and furries from the tags

[general]
u might want to change the combo colors on normal and advanced a bit to match the bgs, u used colors that work on the bg for the hard but it could match a little better i guess. up to u

metadata anywhere?

[mercenary]
u could rename this to.. something else? seems a bit too violent for how calm the song is

i think there's a pretty big issue with differentiation throughout the diff. if you compare the rhythm of parts like 00:07:785 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - to 00:59:339 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - in the kiai, they're quite similar rhythm wise. i recommend you simplify some rhythm in the intro to avoid this issue; stuff like 00:06:386 (4,5) - or 00:14:778 (3,4,5) - could be stuck into one slider, for example. atm it just seems like the entire map is constant 1/2 (well, 1/3) rhythm with no change... cause ofc which is always following the unchanging drums, when the vocal is what is the most melodic and changing

aside from that, the rhythm itself doesn't really focus on much imo.
00:17:295 (1,2) - starting in this section, it seems like the vocals should have been focused on - cmparing to 00:30:768 - which is similar in the song, but mapper differently since it follows the vocals.
for the part at 17 second: 00:18:979 (1,2,3,4) - imo patterns like this don't really add anything to the map. it's just sort of mindless filler rhythm that dilutes what each click means; if every sound has something on it, are you really following the song? or are you mapping a metronome? in this case, 00:18:137 (2) - and 00:18:979 (1,2,3) - are pretty similar vocals with no other melodic instruments (just the fairly quiet drums) so mapping them the same way is nice.
00:20:663 (1,2,3) - same thing, really. there's a clear vocal, but you didnt distinguish that at all from 00:21:505 (4,5,6) - which doesnt have vocals.
00:23:189 (3,4) - the vocal comes in here, would be nice to show that somehow
00:23:189 (3,4,1,2,3,4) - thi part is also clearly focused on the vocal with the spacing increase - but then the biggest jump is at 00:24:593 (3,4) - which isn't a vocal >.> and then 00:25:435 (5,1) - is tiny even though its similar to earlier vcals with really big spacing

00:26:838 (3,4,1) - thsi played badly for me due to the fairly wide angle with spacing increase making it uncomfrtablle

00:30:768 (1,2) - another example of something that i think would be better if you made it a 1/1 slider - matching 00:29:084 (1) - and 00:35:821 (1) -

00:36:663 (2,3,4) - would have been nice to see an acknowledgement of the held out vocal here

00:48:452 (4,5) - slider here would be nice, again for the vocal

you get the idea, so i'll stop here. it's my personal opinion that not only spacing should change between intense and calm parts, but also rhythm density. the contrast between rhythms isn't really enough for a proper map here imo.

[hard]
00:05:547 (5,6,7,8) - would be nice to separate 567 from 8 a bit cuz its different section in the music
00:15:617 (3) - this finish sounded rly loud and out of place
00:24:873 (4) - could be nice to ctrlg here to keep the back and forth motion going
00:30:768 (1,2,3) - i think 1/1 slider fits here a lot better with the piano
00:37:645 - could be good to represent the higher density vocals here
00:47:610 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - would be better to group 123 4 5 as the same object since in the song they are all same type of vocals
01:10:173 (1,2,3) - maybe jump to 1 since its strong beat? and you already introduced decent sized jumps like 01:04:061 (3,1) -

not much else, solid diff

[advanced]
00:37:505 (1) - same thing with the denser vocals
00:42:558 (6,7) - think following the piano with 3 1/2 sliders is better
00:54:305 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/wp4kW/6594f6496b.jpg imo this rhythm fits the vocal betteer

good
[normal]
best bg

k_hand:
00:42:558 (4,5,6) - same piano thing
00:54:305 (1,2) - same rhythm thing

really nothing to say here, fine.

the lower diffs are all fine, but that top diff is uhh. really messy tbh, needs work on rhythm and angle use (like there are randm wide angles everywhere that play kinda bad imo).

good luck.

Mombei

106 posts

Joined June 2014

Mombei 2017-06-20T09:45:47+00:00

From my modding queue

[Easy]

00:03:869 (1,2,3,4) - A symmetrical pattern like this would be better if you centered it. Move slightly to the right.
00:06:386 (3,5) - Could stack for aesthetic value
00:34:137 (4) - This would work better flow-wise if you flipped it vertically

Otherwise it's pretty ok

[Normal]

01:02:395 (3,4,5) - Maybe arrange these as a triangle?

[Advanced]

01:02:395 (4,5,6) - Wait, is this straight from the normal? Same btw

[Hard]

00:29:926 (5,6,7,1,2,3) - It feels a bit off that you would use the same pattern for sounds that feel different (since they're the end and the beginning of a measure)
01:18:784 (3,4,5) - This rhythm structure feels completely different that what you've used so far in all other difficulties. I suggest you remap this bit according to the rhythm structure you've been using for the past 3 diffs.

[ezekyanna's Mercenary]

00:19:821 (4,5) - CtrlG rhythm structure

Extremely cute mapset. I suggest you start looking for BN checks.

Thanks for using my queue!

Izzywing

osu! Alumni

2,248 posts

Joined March 2016

Izzywing 2017-07-01T06:05:50+00:00

Took a look and I agree with pretty much everything nao said. Low diffs are solid but the top diff needs work, respond to his mod and then call me and I'll see if I'm interested.

The most important thing is that the kiai and the rest of the map are pretty much mapped the same, which doesn't make sense with the maps intensities (They even have the same SVs)

Lilyanna

1,918 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Lilyanna 2017-07-01T15:38:39+00:00

Hobbes2 wrote:
Took a look and I agree with pretty much everything nao said. Low diffs are solid but the top diff needs work, respond to his mod and then call me and I'll see if I'm interested.

The most important thing is that the kiai and the rest of the map are pretty much mapped the same, which doesn't make sense with the maps intensities (They even have the same SVs)

okay thank you ! i ll check them tomorrow i was feeling demotivated lately rip XD but guess should get back to this *new bns gives hopes owo"
also talked with ezek about the last diifficultty we will work on it through the help of the mods and us! x)

Kyouren

5,583 posts

Joined October 2012

Kyouren 2017-07-01T17:50:21+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
for the love of god remove furry and furries from the tags. I think they much add it to tags because Youhei and Holdem xD

metadata anywhere?

You can see in my mod!

ZekeyHache

3,316 posts

Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2017-07-01T22:46:33+00:00

I've simplified a few patterns as Naotoshi mentioned and I also increased SV in the kiai to emphasize it more~

Lily will update when she's done with her stuff~

Also,

Naotoshi wrote:
for the love of god remove furry and furries from the tags
The anime is known for having furries and the furry fandom likes Youhei (the tiger, also referred as Mercenary) a lot, and they make a lot of furry fan art from there :v so it's convenient for furries to type either "furry" or "furries" to look for maps to find that stuff that interest them. Go ahead and type "furry" in the ranked maps section so you see lol

[Mercenary]
u could rename this to.. something else? seems a bit too violent for how calm the song is
It might be true that sounds too violent for the song, but in this case we're naming the diff after a character in the anime, not a mercenary in general terms~

Thanks for checking!

Lilyanna

1,918 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Lilyanna 2017-07-03T04:37:17+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
m4m

for the love of god remove furry and furries from the tags

[general]
u might want to change the combo colors on normal and advanced a bit to match the bgs, u used colors that work on the bg for the hard but it could match a little better i guess. up to u i think they fit fine xd

metadata anywhere? there down in post follow what he said in his mod xd

[mercenary]
u could rename this to.. something else? seems a bit too violent for how calm the song is the name is related to the source i dont think it has effect on the song also the mercenary in the anime is rly sweet xD

i think there's a pretty big issue with differentiation throughout the diff. if you compare the rhythm of parts like 00:07:785 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - to 00:59:339 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - in the kiai, they're quite similar rhythm wise. i recommend you simplify some rhythm in the intro to avoid this issue; stuff like 00:06:386 (4,5) - or 00:14:778 (3,4,5) - could be stuck into one slider, for example. atm it just seems like the entire map is constant 1/2 (well, 1/3) rhythm with no change... cause ofc which is always following the unchanging drums, when the vocal is what is the most melodic and changing

aside from that, the rhythm itself doesn't really focus on much imo.
00:17:295 (1,2) - starting in this section, it seems like the vocals should have been focused on - cmparing to 00:30:768 - which is similar in the song, but mapper differently since it follows the vocals.
for the part at 17 second: 00:18:979 (1,2,3,4) - imo patterns like this don't really add anything to the map. it's just sort of mindless filler rhythm that dilutes what each click means; if every sound has something on it, are you really following the song? or are you mapping a metronome? in this case, 00:18:137 (2) - and 00:18:979 (1,2,3) - are pretty similar vocals with no other melodic instruments (just the fairly quiet drums) so mapping them the same way is nice.
00:20:663 (1,2,3) - same thing, really. there's a clear vocal, but you didnt distinguish that at all from 00:21:505 (4,5,6) - which doesnt have vocals. i changed one above but this one the vocals only on downbeat which is the one object hit circle therefore i used that pattern to highlight the piano
00:23:189 (3,4) - the vocal comes in here, would be nice to show that somehow
00:23:189 (3,4,1,2,3,4) - thi part is also clearly focused on the vocal with the spacing increase - but then the biggest jump is at 00:24:593 (3,4) - which isn't a vocal >.> and then 00:25:435 (5,1) - is tiny even though its similar to earlier vcals with really big spacing

00:26:838 (3,4,1) - thsi played badly for me due to the fairly wide angle with spacing increase making it uncomfrtablle

00:30:768 (1,2) - another example of something that i think would be better if you made it a 1/1 slider - matching 00:29:084 (1) - and 00:35:821 (1) -

00:36:663 (2,3,4) - would have been nice to see an acknowledgement of the held out vocal here

00:48:452 (4,5) - slider here would be nice, again for the vocal i hear piano and it contrast will with vocals so circles should be fine imo

you get the idea, so i'll stop here. it's my personal opinion that not only spacing should change between intense and calm parts, but also rhythm density. the contrast between rhythms isn't really enough for a proper map here imo.

Most of the parts where for ezek and he made lot of changes through help of the mod i changed lmost of what u pointed out including spacing and rythm if ididnt change smth which are couple of things i pointed out

[hard]
00:05:547 (5,6,7,8) - would be nice to separate 567 from 8 a bit cuz its different section in the music fixed
00:15:617 (3) - this finish sounded rly loud and out of place im pretty sure there same sound in music
00:24:873 (4) - could be nice to ctrlg here to keep the back and forth motion going oh yes cool fixed
00:30:768 (1,2,3) - i think 1/1 slider fits here a lot better with the piano but then the 1/1 slider next will lose its emphasize i prefer keep circles it highlights piano better
00:37:645 - could be good to represent the higher density vocals here fixed
00:47:610 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - would be better to group 123 4 5 as the same object since in the song they are all same type of vocals
01:10:173 (1,2,3) - maybe jump to 1 since its strong beat? and you already introduced decent sized jumps like 01:04:061 (3,1) - fixed all

not much else, solid diff

[advanced]
00:37:505 (1) - same thing with the denser vocals but this is an advanced i would like to keep it simpler
00:42:558 (6,7) - think following the piano with 3 1/2 sliders is better i think this also work okay since the slider has both end and head piano
00:54:305 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/wp4kW/6594f6496b.jpg imo this rhythm fits the vocal betteer agree fixed

good
[normal]
best bg k_hand:
00:42:558 (4,5,6) - same piano thing same reply im fine with this
00:54:305 (1,2) - same rhythm thing fixed

really nothing to say here, fine.

the lower diffs are all fine, but that top diff is uhh. really messy tbh, needs work on rhythm and angle use (like there are randm wide angles everywhere that play kinda bad imo).

good luck.

~~I literaly didnt sleep ill finish applying ur mod and Mombei's mod when i wake up sorry i thought i could do it before i sleep but omg im so tired rip~~

thx alot for mod was helpful x) we remaped and applied as much for higher difficulty!

Mombei wrote:
From my modding queue hai

[Easy]
00:03:869 (1,2,3,4) - A symmetrical pattern like this would be better if you centered it. Move slightly to the right. moved a little but rly
in gameplay mod still look centred its just editor is retarded XD
00:06:386 (3,5) - Could stack for aesthetic value fixed
00:34:137 (4) - This would work better flow-wise if you flipped it vertically yep fixed
Otherwise it's pretty ok

[Normal]
01:02:395 (3,4,5) - Maybe arrange these as a triangle? but they are as triangle
[Advanced]
01:02:395 (4,5,6) - Wait, is this straight from the normal? Same btwidk what u mean they do look triangle shaped xd
[Hard]
00:29:926 (5,6,7,1,2,3) - It feels a bit off that you would use the same pattern for sounds that feel different (since they're the end and the beginning of a measure) i may have used same 3 circles but i tottaly used different flow it was break and took different direction
01:18:784 (3,4,5) - This rhythm structure feels completely different that what you've used so far in all other difficulties. I suggest you remap this bit according to the rhythm structure you've been using for the past 3 diffs. but i want it to be different ;w;
[ezekyanna's Mercenary]
00:19:821 (4,5) - CtrlG rhythm structure the hitcircle for vocal + drum and then the 1/6 slider for the piano i think i represented the rythm correctly
Extremely cute mapset. I suggest you start looking for BN checks.

Thanks for using my queue!

thanks alot so sweet xd thx for mod !!

Updated!!

Nao Tomori

Nomination Assessment Team

3,089 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2017-08-30T02:22:31+00:00

ok
[general]
green combo color is way too dark, nearly invisible on blaack bg. i think just remove it, there isnt green on this bg anyway
[mercenary]
00:05:827 (2,4,1) - u could make this visual spacing equal, maybe it looks better

00:13:099 (2,3) - since there isn't guitar here, maybe a slider where 2 is?

00:23:189 (3,4) - i think you should change this to be different from 00:22:347 (1,2) - since the vocals come in, the song changes here

00:36:663 (2,3,4) - long slider is nice here for contrast with 00:37:505 (1,2,3) - . and 00:36:944 (3) - doesnt really have sound on it anyway

00:48:452 (4,5) - slider?

01:01:006 (1,3) - this just looks kinda bad cuz they dont align with even spacing

much, much better than last time. good job.

[hard]
00:07:225 (1,2,3) - why such short nc?
00:23:189 (6) - imo better as 2/3 slider (no repeat) cuz extended vocal

00:38:347 (1,2) - making slider here could be nicer, i think highlighting that guitar is better here

00:48:452 (4,5) - slider here? for vocal

00:54:586 (2,3,4) - following vocal here would also be nice imo

01:12:117 (4) - rly small spacing on 4 i think, kinda weird

[advanced]
00:48:452 (4) - slider + circle fits better here i think
[normal]
00:14:778 (3,4) - fix blanket tbh
only good bg
[easy]
00:37:505 (1,2) - these look kinda shitty imo

00:40:873 (3) - plz its not even symmetrical

00:42:558 (4) - tbh repeat here for piano would be cool

lmk when u respond
no kds

Lilyanna

1,918 posts

Joined March 2016

Topic Starter

Lilyanna 2017-08-30T03:58:47+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
ok finally ty ty
[general]
green combo color is way too dark, nearly invisible on blaack bg. i think just remove it, there isnt green on this bg anyway fixed
[mercenary]
00:05:827 (2,4,1) - u could make this visual spacing equal, maybe it looks better

00:13:099 (2,3) - since there isn't guitar here, maybe a slider where 2 is?

00:23:189 (3,4) - i think you should change this to be different from 00:22:347 (1,2) - since the vocals come in fixed , the song changes here

00:36:663 (2,3,4) - long slider is nice here for contrast with 00:37:505 (1,2,3) - . and 00:36:944 (3) - doesnt really have sound on it anyway

00:48:452 (4,5) - slider? fixed

01:01:006 (1,3) - this just looks kinda bad cuz they dont align with even spacing

much, much better than last time. good job.

[hard]
00:07:225 (1,2,3) - why such short nc? fixed all only nc in each downbeat
00:23:189 (6) - imo better as 2/3 slider (no repeat) cuz extended vocal fixed

00:38:347 (1,2) - making slider here could be nicer, i think highlighting that guitar is better here fixed

00:48:452 (4,5) - slider here? for vocal fixed

00:54:586 (2,3,4) - following vocal here would also be nice imo fixed

01:12:117 (4) - rly small spacing on 4 i think, kinda weird fixed

[advanced]
00:48:452 (4) - slider + circle fits better here i think fixed
[normal]
00:14:778 (3,4) - fix blanket tbh fixed blanket and polished other patterns
only good bg
[easy]
00:37:505 (1,2) - these look kinda shitty imo changed them

00:40:873 (3) - plz its not even symmetrical idk what u mean but i changed stuff there

00:42:558 (4) - tbh repeat here for piano would be cool fixed

lmk when u respond
no kds

thx for recheck!!! no reply = ezek part!

ZekeyHache

3,316 posts

Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2017-08-30T17:48:18+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[mercenary]
00:05:827 (2,4,1) - u could make this visual spacing equal, maybe it looks better not sure what you want me to do, but I moved (1) a bit closer so the distance from the body of (4) is similar to the one from (2) to (4)

00:13:099 (2,3) - since there isn't guitar here, maybe a slider where 2 is? nah, I'm fine, plus since there's no guitar I just didn't make a jump :p

00:36:663 (2,3,4) - long slider is nice here for contrast with 00:37:505 (1,2,3) - . and 00:36:944 (3) - doesnt really have sound on it anyway sounds good, applied

01:01:006 (1,3) - this just looks kinda bad cuz they dont align with even spacing not sure what you want me to do, but I guess is about this, so I tried improving that

Thanks!

UpDaTe

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