ayomikasa wrote:

Hi! Req from xfrac from a long time ago
Heey lol didn't even remember xD but ty for coming!

Inner Oni

1. 00:12:894 (36,37) - Ctrl+G
   I think these 00:12:969 (37,38,39) - deserves a real kdk so don before it emphatises great
2. 00:51:069 (355,356) - ^
   But the kick is on the middle note so I'm holding it
3. 01:51:144 (700) - Change to d
   I don't want to make same pattern as 01:49:869 (688,689,690,691,692) - . Also this makes a greater emphasis on ascendant melody :d
4. 01:53:169 (718) - Change to k
   I think that could create a overload of kat-starting streams :/ so I'll hold it

Sorry for the bad mod
Good luck for ranking this map

ayomikasa wrote:

_yu68's Oni

1. 00:22:194 (95,96) - Ctrl+G I would keep it to emphasize drum and make diversity.
2. 00:25:794 (120) - Change to d keep to prevent too many d
3. 00:31:794 (166,167) - Ctrl+G same as 00:22:269 (96) -
4. 00:37:719 (208) - Change to k keep for ease of playing and reading
5. 01:59:394 (583) - Change to d changed
6. 02:01:794 (602) - ^ keep to prevent too many d
7. 02:02:994 (612,613) - Ctrl+G changed 02:02:994 (612) - to d considering diversity
8. 02:07:794 (648,649) - ^ keep because of same reason as above
9. 02:13:719 (690) - Change to k keep for ease of playing and reading
   
   Sorry, i can't do japanese no problem :3

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• d=Don
  D=Big Don
  k=Katsu
  K=Big Katsu

1. Bookmarks unsnapped, resnap them!!!! (i'm joking lol xD)

1. 00:07:569 - de aqui hasta 00:10:869 - haria esto para mejorar el spread con la Futsuu: añade d en 00:07:869 - 00:08:169 - , elimina 00:09:969 - y cambia
2. 00:09:669 - a k, este ultimo sugiero el cambio a k por que en caso de aceptar eliminar las anteriores añaderia mas variedad en vez de solo d y como notaras, en 00:09:669 - y 00:10:269 - la melodia es diferente.
3. 00:15:369 - creo que no haria daño añadir un k/d aqui, ya que tienes un 1/1 largo en la Futsuu.
4. 01:29:469 - añadir un d en 01:29:469 - y 01:29:769 - ? ya que tienes un triplete en la Futsuu y ayuda en el spread.

1. 00:45:369 - sugiero eliminar esta nota, ya que queda inconsistente a 00:40:569 - , en el cual no tienes nota.
2. 00:53:619 - sugiero añadir un k en 00:53:619 - y 00:58:419 - para un mejor spread con la Muzu, ya que tienes tripletes en esa misma parte.
3. 01:01:119 - al igual que ^, añadir un d en 01:01:119 - y 01:05:919 - ?

1. 00:25:419 - , 00:30:219 - , 00:35:019 - , sugiero tener algunos 2/1 break aqui al igual como en la Futsuu, ya que en 200 bpm y es bastante denso aun para una Muzu xD.
2. 02:01:419 - , 02:06:219 - , 02:11:019 - ^
3. 01:17:619 - añadir un d creo que no estaria mal aqui, entiendo que tienes un kd en la Muzu, pero siendo la Futsuu, un dd no haria daño.

1. 00:38:694 - as this part it feels easier than before, change this note to k? (kkkkd)
2. 02:14:694 - if you applied ^, same here.

1. 00:15:069 - este 5plet deberia empezar en 00:15:219 - como en los anteriores patterns ya que queda inconsistente con 00:20:019 - en el que si lo haces.
2. 01:33:294 - se siente muy raro ignorando el sonido de 01:33:294 - y 01:35:694 - , asi que sugiero añadir notas, ademas, sin notas queda inconsistente con 01:34:494 - .
3. 02:04:119 - ya que en 02:01:719 - cambiaste de repente a d, deberias hacer lo mismo en 02:04:119 - para mantener la consistencia.
4. 02:11:319 - lo mismo que ^ en 02:11:319 - y 02:13:719 - .

Hanjamon wrote:

Hey frac~ sorry for the delay, here is my mod as you requested.
Hi Hanja! Don't worry, thanks!

• d=Don
  D=Big Don
  k=Katsu
  K=Big Katsu

[General]

1. Bookmarks unsnapped, resnap them!!!! (i'm joking lol xD)
   xD Fuck the offset change >< ><

[Kantan]

1. 00:07:569 - de aqui hasta 00:10:869 - haria esto para mejorar el spread con la Futsuu: añade d en 00:07:869 - 00:08:169 - , elimina 00:09:969 - y cambia
2. 00:09:669 - a k, este ultimo sugiero el cambio a k por que en caso de aceptar eliminar las anteriores añaderia mas variedad en vez de solo d y como notaras, en 00:09:669 - y 00:10:269 - la melodia es diferente.
   Mmmm la verdad prefiero dejar el patrón que está ahora básicamente por tres razones; primero el spread está aceptable a mi gusto (si ese es uno de los principales problemas del comentario), segundo la canción está recién comenzando y para ser un 200bpm me gustaría comenzar con notas con 4/1 break y tercero el ritmo en 00:06:069 - es más lento que en 00:08:469 - así que el hecho de comenzar a darle un poco más de notas desde la segunda parte queda bastante bueno
3. 00:15:369 - creo que no haria daño añadir un k/d aqui, ya que tienes un 1/1 largo en la Futsuu.
   Algo similar a lo de arriba, prefiría guardar los triples 1/1 para un Kiai ya que el ritmo aumenta considerablemente (también por lo de 'comenzar' la canción relativamente amistosa xD
4. 01:29:469 - añadir un d en 01:29:469 - y 01:29:769 - ? ya que tienes un triplete en la Futsuu y ayuda en el spread.
   Similar a los dos comentarios de arriba, también me gustan las dificultades que van de forma ascendente. Este es como un segundo comienzo del mapa así que prefiero que parta con 01:18:069 - 8/1 breaks y 01:27:669 - 4/1 breaks acá, para luego dar pie a los 01:30:069 - 2/1 break (como en el comienzo)

[Futsuu]

1. 00:45:369 - sugiero eliminar esta nota, ya que queda inconsistente a 00:40:569 - , en el cual no tienes nota.
   Sí, mejora la consistencia (borré la anterior a esa también )
2. 00:53:619 - sugiero añadir un k en 00:53:619 - y 00:58:419 - para un mejor spread con la Muzu, ya que tienes tripletes en esa misma parte.
   Mmmm quizás quedaría muy difícil a mi gusto, prefiero dejarlo como está básicamente porque prefiero guardar los triples para un Kiai
3. 01:01:119 - al igual que ^, añadir un d en 01:01:119 - y 01:05:919 - ?
   Similar a lo de arriba, en Muzu usé un 1/2 triple, pero para Futsuu podría ser mejor mantenerlo así (no quiero overmappear las partes consideradas lentas fuera del Kiai)

[Muzukashii]

1. 00:25:419 - , 00:30:219 - , 00:35:019 - , sugiero tener algunos 2/1 break aqui al igual como en la Futsuu, ya que en 200 bpm y es bastante denso aun para una Muzu xD.
2. 02:01:419 - , 02:06:219 - , 02:11:019 - ^
   MmmmMmMMMmm jajaj pensándolo harto la verdad creo que sí en parte es un poco denso, pero un Muzu player ya está capacitado para hacer esos patrones, para un Kiai siento que un 1/1 break es... suficiente? De todas formas, esperaré otro comentario para esto, entiendo el hecho de los 200bpm, pero prefiría tener una Muzu un poco más desafiante
3. 01:17:619 - añadir un d creo que no estaria mal aqui, entiendo que tienes un kd en la Muzu, pero siendo la Futsuu, un dd no haria daño.
   Suponiendo que te refieres a Futsuu en este caso xD creo que ambas están bien, mis motivos son similares a las diff en general, prefiero mappear cada dificultad como corresponda; independiente que si usé kat o don en una de las dos, cada dificultad tiene su motivo de usar esas notas al menos en mi mapset

[Inner Oni]

1. 00:15:069 - este 5plet deberia empezar en 00:15:219 - como en los anteriores patterns ya que queda inconsistente con 00:20:019 - en el que si lo haces.
   Fixed
2. 01:33:294 - se siente muy raro ignorando el sonido de 01:33:294 - y 01:35:694 - , asi que sugiero añadir notas, ademas, sin notas queda inconsistente con 01:34:494 - .
   Mmm prefiría no sobremappear los quintuples en esta sección, entiendo tu punto ya que hay un kick pequeño pero prefiero usar triples para no hacer esta parte tan complicada considerando que sólo es una aceleración de ritmo. Sobre la inconsistencia no debería haber problema ya que el quintuple se usa en 01:36:819 - pero extendido para indicar el cambio de sección
3. 02:04:119 - ya que en 02:01:719 - cambiaste de repente a d, deberias hacer lo mismo en 02:04:119 - para mantener la consistencia.
   Oh, se me pasó esa nota la verdad xD, prefiero dejarlo como kat ambos, pero sí arreglo la consistencia
4. 02:11:319 - lo mismo que ^ en 02:11:319 - y 02:13:719 - .
   Pero en este caso ambas notas son las mismas D: igual, como probablemente notaste el principio se reitera en un d k k k / d d k k cada 4/1 :3

Good luck~
Thankss

Hanjamon wrote:

[_yu68's Oni]

1. 00:38:694 - as this part it feels easier than before, change this note to k? (kkkkd) I would keep it to emphasize drum. I think it's not too difficult even now.
2. 02:14:694 - if you applied ^, same here. ^

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_yu68 wrote:

Hanjamon wrote:

[_yu68's Oni]

1. 00:38:694 - as this part it feels easier than before, change this note to k? (kkkkd) I would keep it to emphasize drum. I think it's not too difficult even now.
2. 02:14:694 - if you applied ^, same here. ^

Thanks mod!
I didn't apply the mod but I changed patterns in Kiai to express melody.(Specifically, I changed the places of 1/1.)

.osu

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1. 01:37:269 (1) - I understand you followed the melody though, connection between the spinner and next note seems kinda awkward. I recommend that you remove 01:39:669 (1,2,3) - to make interval, or to replace to normal notes.

1. SV could be 1.3.
2. 01:37:269 (1) - same as Kantan
3. 00:36:369 (90,91,92) - 00:38:769 (98,99,100) - I can't get how triplets in second half of the first kiai have rules. In my opinion, dkd-ddd [A-B-A(reverse)-B(reverse)] or kdk-kkk [A-B-A-B] would be great.
4. considering first half of the 2nd kiai part, 02:09:969 (45,46,47) - should be kdk, and 02:14:769 (61,62,63) - kkk.

1. 00:30:669 (112,113,114,115) - Doublets sound weird to me. were I in your place I would make triplets instead.

1. 01:18:069 (418) - could be big note like other diffs.

1. 00:50:469 (350,351,352,353) - 00:52:869 (369,370,371,372) - , etc, They don't follow any sound and not make good flow imo. I recommend that you replace to triplets.
2. 01:51:969 (707,708,709,710) - 01:54:369 (729,730,731,732) - ^

tasuke912 wrote:

[ Kantan]

1. 01:37:269 (1) - I understand you followed the melody though, connection between the spinner and next note seems kinda awkward. I recommend that you remove 01:39:669 (1,2,3) - to make interval, or to replace to normal notes.
   Yeah kick is a little strong, I'm changing the next note to don

[ Futsuu]

1. SV could be 1.3.
   I'd pref to hold it as 1.2 since Futsuu is hard comparing the gap between Kantan and this. Otherwise readibility could be a little hard for it. Anyways receiving more opinions about this (200bpm song by the way)
2. 01:37:269 (1) - same as Kantan
   Same~
3. 00:36:369 (90,91,92) - 00:38:769 (98,99,100) - I can't get how triplets in second half of the first kiai have rules. In my opinion, dkd-ddd [A-B-A(reverse)-B(reverse)] or kdk-kkk [A-B-A-B] would be great.
4. considering first half of the 2nd kiai part, 02:09:969 (45,46,47) - should be kdk, and 02:14:769 (61,62,63) - kkk.
   I made both changes, was a little complex tho

[ Muzukashii]

1. 00:30:669 (112,113,114,115) - Doublets sound weird to me. were I in your place I would make triplets instead.
   Ok changed to triples, but not changing second Kiai doubles, they fill great

[ Inner Oni]

1. 00:50:469 (350,351,352,353) - 00:52:869 (369,370,371,372) - , etc, They don't follow any sound and not make good flow imo. I recommend that you replace to triplets.
   If you take a look carefully you will notice there's not any sound on 00:50:619 - that deserves to be mapped and doubles usage is mostly a variation on this section. Also 00:50:469 (350,351) - gives a good emphasis on descendant melody then 00:50:694 (352,353) - same about ascendant.
2. 01:51:969 (707,708,709,710) - 01:54:369 (729,730,731,732) - ^
   It's kind of the same argument I used above

Overall mapped well, but usage of doublets in Inner Oni is really questionable to me.
Want more opinions if you keep them.
Waiting for it ^^. Gotta try to hold them

Good luck.

tasuke912 wrote:

[ Oni]

1. 01:18:069 (418) - could be big note like other diffs. 落ち着いた音なのでbigで強調する必要性はあまり無いように思います。diffごとの統一を徹底する必要も無いと判断したのでkeepします。

Stefan wrote:

I think I come to the perfect time!

[General]
Although it's not that troublesome but the BPM is "only" 200 so SV 1.4 for the lower difficulties can still work. But like said, that's not urgent and just my thoughts.
I told some friends (not taiko players) to test it as 200bpm so they felt this a little difficulty (cause SV). So I'd pref to stuck as this SV usage

[Inner Oni]
00:20:469 (99,100,101,102) - It bothers me reeeeeally that the part sounds so damn plain to me. I could think about adding a note on 00:20:694 - , or remove 00:20:919 (102) - . Both options make it sound less "spammy" imo.
00:22:869 (121,122,123,124) - ^
00:25:269 (144,145,146,147) - ^
00:27:669 (166,167,168,169) - ^
I pref using the first suggestion, but making some little variations on them ^^
00:39:669 - 00:49:269 - triplet and fivelet usage for this part of song sounds strange imo, maybe one or two triplets to support the music's beat is appropriate but personally I'd be calmer than the current state. from 00:49:269 - it actually starts to be stronger again and to use more technical pattern.
Yeah, agree with this, made some changes on this section
01:32:319 - add 0.80x SV line here, the transistion is smoother afterwards.
I guess you wanted to point 0,9x since it comes from 0,85 to 1,0 xD. Added 01:32:169 - 0,9 here and 01:32:319 - 0,95 here
01:46:719 - ^ 0.95x
Added
00:50:469 (350,351,352,353) - I agree with tasuke that the doublets aren't the best decision, although you want to have some variety - or even go jiro-style I don't consider them as something contributing in the song or map.
Ok boy, as I pointed above I was waiting for another comment, seems like I'd need to change this xD
01:51:969 (707,708,709,710) - ^
^

[Oni]
Good one!
Great~

[Muzukashii]
00:22:869 (69,70,71,72,73) - and 00:27:669 (95,96,97,98,99) - I'd change both to dkkdd but also, I find that the 4th note (72 and 98) aren't really needed and doesn't feel placed right. I'd suggest to remove these two notes but in case you don't want you should have them consistent, to dkkdd.
I'd pref to hold them since they emphatises great the next don note. Descendant rhythm follow is priority on this section so like Inner follows the pitch great
00:25:269 (83,84) - I'd switch them back to dkk, this looks senseless to have kdk with what you've mapped before and after.
Agree, fixed these and second Kiai too
00:30:069 - 00:39:669 - You could change the dkk parts to ddk, like you did with 00:37:269 (148,149,150) - .
I pref changing the 4th one to dkk, fills better imo
01:08:469 - 01:18:069 - this looks questionably easy to me, I think you've took it a bit too far and Oni looks extremly dense compared to Muzukashii here.
Added some notes, you're right
01:27:669 - 01:51:669 - this section on the other hand looks too similar to Oni and requires some slight nerfes.
Wasn't that similar imo, considering patterns are different and Oni uses 2 quintuples (muzu used 1). Anyways I'm deleting one note
[Futsuu]
00:06:069 (2,3) - If all previous difficulties use it I wouldn't say you should do that for the Futsuu, although it fits I don't think it's difficulty-wise a good choice. removing (3) here would be my idea. Repeat this for the following parts.
I think it's correctly following the kicks on Futsuu for the doubles usage. On this section I follow something different through the diffs but they're more accurate according to each difficulty
00:24:969 (53,54) - switch? Sound transistion is odd to me and you barely used kat to end a combo.
Fixed~
00:29:469 (68,69,70) - switching their colours is imo by far a better idea, (69) would go well with the song being lighter here.
I'm applying ctrl+g on 00:29:469 (68,69) - to follow the ascendant melody better, but 00:30:069 (70) - should stuck at kat considering the melody starts from really high pitch
00:53:769 (133,134) - The piano sound actually applies on (134), d d k k d looks better to me.
I think current 00:53:469 (132,133,134) - k d k usage is great to follow melody k > d (descendant) , d > k (ascendant). Also this have great consistency with 00:49:269 (122) -
00:51:369 (127) - ^ this on the other hand can be k d k d d, (127) becomes slightly deeper and suits better for that pattern.
I like variation suggestions so applying
[Kantan]
okidoki
Great~


Worried about Muzukashii/Futsuu. Muzukashii suffers from difficulty spread to Futsuu and Oni, and Futsuu have some structure and consistency problems.
I guess with your commentaries on Muzu is enough at fixing this point, compared some calm/fast part between Oni and Muzu and they should be fine now (also for Futsuu)

Thanks for modding! All update

tasuke912 wrote:

looking good. Bubbled!

Stefan wrote:

log

03:33 Stefan: a
03:33 *Stefan is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1297308 Erik McClure - DioSynth [_yu68's Oni]]
03:34 xfraczynho: o/
03:35 Stefan: We should reduce the dimensions of BG, to 1366x768 or 1024x768
03:35 Stefan: If you need help, I can assist you here.
03:36 xfraczynho: isn't this currently 1920x1200?
03:36 xfraczynho: I've read that's currently rankable D:
03:37 Stefan: Hmm, well
03:37 Stefan: It's not urgently unrankable, or that important
03:37 Stefan: actually..
03:37 Stefan: I think it's fine
03:37 xfraczynho: from skylish and nardo
03:37 Stefan: Just
03:38 xfraczynho: and it seems well... anyways I got other dimensions (used 1366 before)
03:38 Stefan: I find the BG should be move up for a bit
03:38 xfraczynho: up?
03:38 Stefan: You know how to alter the BG position?
03:38 xfraczynho: 84yeah
03:38 xfraczynho: but I think it's currently nice
03:39 xfraczynho: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8838951 -> the orange circle feels great
03:39 Stefan: I'd say it should be -30 imo
03:39 Stefan: so it's more in the mid
03:39 xfraczynho: if I move up white line wont look good
03:39 xfraczynho: so covered
03:39 Stefan: Hmm, okay then.
03:40 xfraczynho: if it would be standard I would agree with you
03:40 xfraczynho: but considering it moves down cause taiko it seems well
03:40 xfraczynho: :3
03:41 Stefan: okay then
03:43 Stefan: Futsuu: 01:19:269 (5) -
03:43 Stefan: Wondering.. Why is Futsuu the only difficulty with a note here (excluding Inner Oni)
03:44 Stefan: I mean, neither Muzu or Oni have one here
03:44 Stefan: it looks extremly strange to me.
03:45 xfraczynho: oups my bad
03:45 xfraczynho: deleting on futsuu
03:45 Stefan: 01:08:469 - 01:18:069 - for Futsuu and Muzukashii: I'd suggest to make Muzukashii for this part slightly denser/harder
03:45 xfraczynho: this is the slowest part on the song so I pref the 8/1 break
03:45 Stefan: since both difficulties are exact the same, dense-wise
03:46 Stefan: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/5vrB4CJz.png just as reference
03:46 Stefan: Kantan~Oni
03:47 xfraczynho: !!! Finally!
03:47 xfraczynho: how ddo you do that?!
03:47 xfraczynho: I've seen that so many time befeore
03:47 xfraczynho: (btw I'm adding 01:13:194 - only don here)
03:47 Stefan: It's Modding Assistant
03:47 xfraczynho: I wanted to ask chromo (since I've seen that from him xD) but he's offline
03:47 Stefan: let me find the download link quick
03:47 xfraczynho: great
03:48 Stefan: t/359381/start=150
03:48 xfraczynho: I've looking for that exactlyfrom 2 days ago
03:48 Stefan: check Bakari's post
03:48 xfraczynho: nice ~~
03:48 xfraczynho: great tool
03:48 Stefan: And no worries about the filename, bakari was just silly
03:48 xfraczynho: thanks
03:48 xfraczynho: yeah xD I noticed
03:48 Stefan: but yeah, it's indeed a really good tool
03:48 xfraczynho: btw I would pref to have similar density on f-m
03:48 xfraczynho: on this part
03:49 Stefan: working with it for mapping and modding now
03:49 xfraczynho: 01:13:194 - by making a triple (ddd) on muzu here is enough
03:49 Stefan: Yeah, that can work
03:49 xfraczynho: if I make it harder could be so overmapped imo
03:49 xfraczynho: and yeah, I'm gonna use this a lot lol
03:50 Stefan: for Futsuu: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/B758QF35.png
03:50 Stefan: at 01:31:269 - 01:37:269 -
03:50 Stefan: try adding some 1/2 notes
03:51 Stefan: since Muzukashii uses a lot of them here.
03:51 Stefan: it doesn't have to be that many
03:51 Stefan: but spread-wise it'd work out better.
03:51 xfraczynho: yeah I agree with yu
03:51 xfraczynho: you
03:52 xfraczynho: 01:32:919 - d01:35:319 -
03:52 xfraczynho: d too
03:52 xfraczynho: it's enough
03:52 xfraczynho: I think there's a little drum shake so fills nice
03:52 Stefan: yeah, that will work fine
03:52 xfraczynho: (btw does this tool work for std aswell right?)
03:53 Stefan: Yes, it was originally designed for standard
03:53 Stefan: but has taiko support as well
03:54 xfraczynho: seems great for taiko lol for spread stuff
03:54 Stefan: So, do you have anything else you want to change on the set?
03:54 Stefan: on your own
03:55 xfraczynho: tbh I haven't anything else to do
03:55 Stefan: Okay.
03:55 xfraczynho: I've check the spread (manually)
03:55 xfraczynho: little issues that you already pointed out
04:02 Stefan: good good.
04:02 Stefan: Well, I have nothing else to say.
04:03 Stefan: You can update and let me know when you're ready.
04:03 xfraczynho: great :3
04:03 xfraczynho: let me take a quick check on inner
04:03 xfraczynho: then updating
04:05 xfraczynho: 00:19:494 (90) -01:03:519 (443) - only making them d
04:05 xfraczynho: not any other change; updated

!!! Really proud atm. Thanks

IamKwaN wrote:

i guess i need reference for current meta

Voyage wrote:

Metadata Check

• Artist

1. Change the artist's name to Erik McClure, the artist himself likes to interchange between different aliases such Blackhole, Blackhole12 and etc. But, he seems to consistently use Eric McClure as an alias so it's better to use Eric McClure then Blackhole. If you're still unsure about it, there's official proof from the artist himself in this map's description.
   Source
2. Remove Newgrounds from Source, the music downloading/streaming website isn't applicable as a official Source.
   Tags
3. Remove Eric McClure in tags, if you also follow my above suggestion about the Artist, it would make sense to delete this to avoid duplicates.
4. Add Blackhole in tags, another alias the artist goes by. This would coincide with the above suggestion about changing the Artist name.
5. Add Newgrounds in tags, if you choose to follow the above suggestion about Source, it would make more sense to have Newgrounds as a tag since it's related to the song and artist in that, the song was uploaded on Newgrounds by the artist.
6. Add Trance in tags, genre of the song as quoted by the artist, "I'm not actually sure what genre this is... so into Techno it goes!".
7. Replace the tags Audio and Portal with Audio Deathmatch and NGADM, the tags Audio and Portal are a bit too broad referring to the Newsground website overall. These two tags I suggested are a bit more specific since the song was an entry for the Newgrounds Audio Deathmatch 2010 competition and NGADM is the abbreviation of the contest.

Source(s) used: Newgrounds, DioSynth, NGADM, Bandcamp, SoundCloud, VGMdb.
Footnote(s): Not many official sources available so I resorted to using secondhand Sources for some of the Metadata.[/notice]

IamKwaN wrote:

There are two concerns over this song from me. First, why isn't the song's title ~BH~ DioSynth? I downloaded the song from Newgrounds and the file property shows ~BH~ DioSynth as title and Blackhole12 as artist. So, secondly, is it appropriate for you to change the alias of the composer for a song? I mean I know they are the same person but would you use senya as artist for Din Don Dan?

Edit: Read Oko's map description, artist alias issue is resolved, let's focus on the title.

IamKwaN wrote:

can someone confirm this by sending the composer a mail? XD

IamKwaN wrote:

can someone confirm this by sending the composer a mail? XD

IamKwaN wrote:

can someone confirm this by sending the composer a mail? XD

xfraczynho wrote:

IamKwaN wrote:

can someone confirm this by sending the composer a mail? XD

Proof:
Is it enough I guess?

Arrival wrote:

dropping this here, i don't understand your rhythm choices in inner oni's kiais, the last one most of all; their structure doesn't reflect the music at all to me and it just seems random.

what i'd suggest as a basic core structure could be this 01:57:669 -

this would reflect way more efficiently the song than what you actually have which is mapped... quite randomly

then you can play around it by improvising stuff like this

this is just an exemple on how you could make the kiai more interesting, as of now you're not playing with the don/kat contrasts enough and it gives a somewhat messy results where you just dont feel like playing the song...

my two cents

xfraczynho wrote:

Pattern usage is according on that base (most about variety on them). [/b]

xfraczynho wrote:

from 01:57:669 - at 50% pr you can get 01:57:669 (760) - 01:57:969 (764) - 01:58:269 (766) - 01:58:569 (770) - notes which I locked as kat cause they follows kick really well

MrSergio wrote:

xfraczynho wrote:

Pattern usage is according on that base (most about variety on them). [/b]

I believe that's Arrival's point here. The variation of your base is what makes it hard to play, or rather unpredictable and seemingly unstructured.
If you change the main reference the player has how can it be considered "structured" ? D:
That's what I meant; current base I'm using on 01:56:469 - is d k k k / d d k k. That's all the variation on these sections starts then from here 01:57:069 - kxxxk is what I'm locking for as you can notice on every sections so should not be that hard for players to follow middle variations

xfraczynho wrote:

from 01:57:669 - at 50% pr you can get 01:57:669 (760) - 01:57:969 (764) - 01:58:269 (766) - 01:58:569 (770) - notes which I locked as kat cause they follows kick really well

Ye, but then you stop doing so with 01:58:869 (773) - and start alternating between the two with 02:00:069 (784) - 02:00:369 (788) - 02:00:669 (790) - 02:00:969 (794) -
As I pointed above; I'm making variations between d k k k and d d k k as base (you can look at them on my mod replies before) every 8/1 sections on Kiais so triple usage on frirst three notes (second and 4th 8/1 on Kiai's) emphatises the drum shake and helps at variation. You can look at my Ozzy and Stefan reply on this since I used these notes alone on a first instance but then I noticed this feels and fills really better (also help at not making this feel that empty)

Imo you should really give a second or third chance to Arrival's post. Maybe I'm not experienced enough to play this sort of stuff, but it does feel stranger than a lot of maps which are even harder than this in star rating
I'm not trying to be mindclosed on this way; I tried his suggestion and I can agree in someway with this, but I still think current state is better talking about this kind of songs; not trying to make a hard map, just making something that really fills great according to song


Also, let me add some things I found myself, which may or may not make sense to you:
01:56:469 (749,750,751,752,753,754) - this first passage that starts the kiai is what I find to be the most fitting way to represent this rhythm.
That rhythm gets repeats a lot during the kiai, since it's like the intro to each variation the composer added in this part:
- 01:58:869 (773,774,775,776,777,778) - doesn't work
- 02:01:269 (797,798,799,800,801,802) - works
- 02:03:669 (821,822,823,824,825,826) - doesn't work
- 02:06:069 (845,846,847,848,849,850) - works
Yeah I got your point; same as I pointed above, look at my reply on Ozzy/Stefan mod. Both pointed your way and it feels really more fun at playing (and accurate imo). Both points you're saying are fine but they can be better for Oni diff maybe

This keeps alternating, and it was probably meant for variation.
You can also say that since the whole rhythm is repeated but slightly changed by the composer you can do this, but I believe you should keep the first part of the repeated pattern as is and vary the second half of it where the rhythm indeed changes
Yeah, it's repetitive but this doesn't mean making repetitive patterns (maybe more notes similar is enough), also drum makes some little variations on it so I think it's currently nice. As I pointed; not trying to be mindclosed at your suggestions; but I'm leaving at it is :') thanks for your feedbacks anyways :3